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Title: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 03, 2014, 02:18:56 AM
Potent vasodilator, improves cholesterol values, the most important water soluble B vitamin....
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: bigmc on January 03, 2014, 02:20:44 AM
because the supplement companies don't give a fuck

you know it costs them about two bucks to throw together those 60 dollar supplements
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 03, 2014, 02:22:23 AM
because the supplement companies don't give a fuck

you know it costs them about two bucks to throw together those 60 dollar supplements

I'm gonna make my own magic formula.

Want to "sponsor" me with some start up capital?  :D
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: beverast on January 03, 2014, 02:25:54 AM
Aren't there a lot of people who have issues with niacin? Like hot flushes and stuff?
Don't know how severe of a problem that would be. Then again, I understand that there's more stuff in those products that might cause problems for some people.
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: bigmc on January 03, 2014, 02:29:40 AM
I'm gonna make my own magic formula.

Want to "sponsor" me with some start up capital?  :D

its a possibility

you might have to pose for me at the mirage in vegas  :-X
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 03, 2014, 02:30:13 AM
Aren't there a lot of people who have issues with niacin? Like hot flushes and stuff?
Don't know how severe of a problem that would be. Then again, I understand that there's more stuff in those products that might cause problems for some people.

Niacin flush is a normal effect. Some sissy boys don't like the flush feeling but all that happens is your skin gets warm for a few minutes and you feel a tad warmer. It means your blood vessels are dilating and good shit is occurring on your insides.
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: Max on January 03, 2014, 03:55:36 AM
Niacin flush is a normal effect. Some sissy boys don't like the flush feeling but all that happens is your skin gets warm for a few minutes and you feel a tad warmer. It means your blood vessels are dilating and good shit is occurring on your insides.
Tad warmer??  I went the colour of a tomato and was soaked head to toe in sweat. It felt like I was on fire!
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: crownshep on January 03, 2014, 04:22:47 AM
First time i used it in 1980 i felt like my ears were on fire,my head would explode,and my elbows were bright purple.And that was from taking the suggeted dose.
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: wes on January 03, 2014, 04:27:01 AM
old school stuff.........
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: crownshep on January 03, 2014, 04:28:52 AM
old school stuff.........

Time to visit the health food shop and load up on kelp and alfalfa,dessicated liver and b complex. ;D
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: wes on January 03, 2014, 04:52:22 AM
Time to visit the health food shop and load up on kelp and alfalfa,dessicated liver and b complex. ;D
We musn`t forget the Lecithin,Brewers Yeast,and Wheat Germ Oil my friend!  :D
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: crownshep on January 03, 2014, 05:33:07 AM
What was the supplement called that you put a drop under your tongue for it to be absorbed by the buchal tract,and was supposed to increase testosterone.it had a warning on the bottle saying "warning,may increase the size of penis".
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on January 03, 2014, 05:49:00 AM
What's the point of putting niacin in?  A "warm" feeling? It can be uncomfortable for some people, and the vasodilation can be achieved through other ingredients
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: wes on January 03, 2014, 05:56:15 AM
What was the supplement called that you put a drop under your tongue for it to be absorbed by the buchal tract,and was supposed to increase testosterone.it had a warning on the bottle saying "warning,may increase the size of penis".
Why that was Smilax of course.

Worked like a charm.
::)


;D
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on January 03, 2014, 05:58:41 AM
What was the supplement called that you put a drop under your tongue for it to be absorbed by the buchal tract,and was supposed to increase testosterone.it had a warning on the bottle saying "warning,may increase the size of penis".

Haha if I had a supplement company, I'd put that warning on every product.... hell, I might even NAME my supplement company that  ;D
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 03, 2014, 06:03:06 AM
It's because niacin is cheap. The other reason it makes you flush red and for some sends tingles down your skin. Some get a warm feeling like they took a shot of brandy. When teenagers take the "snake oil" and get that reaction they think, Wow, this stuff is powerful. It must be doing something to pack on muscle.
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: wes on January 03, 2014, 06:08:41 AM
(http://www.vitacost.com/Images/Products/1000/Source-Naturals/Source-Naturals-Smilax-Sarsaparilla-Extract-021078007302.jpg)

.....and then there was the good stuff.......almost steroid like effects were attained by all!
::)

(http://www.tiptopsupplements.com/v/vspfiles/photos/GenesisSmilaxGold-2T.jpg)

(http://www.themusclecouple.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Hot-Stuff3.jpg)

(http://s4.hubimg.com/u/2043479_f248.jpg)
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: wes on January 03, 2014, 06:13:08 AM
(http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sell/SSProfiles/72000091/Images/1/img470730.jpg)
::)
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: The Scott on January 03, 2014, 06:16:14 AM
(http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sell/SSProfiles/72000091/Images/1/img470730.jpg)
::)

Endorsed by Smilin' Bob!
(http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/108/02/108-0223091723-bob.gif)
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on January 03, 2014, 06:22:01 AM
I'm gonna make my own magic formula.

Want to "sponsor" me with some start up capital?  :D
im sure there is a lot of people in the bb that that wants to sponsor you. But  not in that way sorry =/
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 03, 2014, 06:25:57 AM
Some supplements back in the day actually had steroids in them. No, bs. Sports Illustrated did a piece on that awhile back.
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: wes on January 03, 2014, 06:28:39 AM
I always heard that Hot Stuff was laced with Dianabol........no clue if true,but that was a widspread rumor.
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: crownshep on January 03, 2014, 08:11:43 AM
Why that was Smilax of course.

Worked like a charm.
::)


;D

That was it,smilax officianalis,i remember talking to Frank Richards about it,and he said it "could" work,if you drank about a gallon a day,but one drop under the tongue would do nothing.
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on January 03, 2014, 08:23:05 AM
Niacin plus whisky for a good pump at the gym. Blotchy red pattern and tingling like you are having a stroke. Good old days.

What about liquid liver? Apparently it's used by anglers as bait to attract fish but it used to be a big bodybuilding supplement in the 80's. Probably full of mad cow disease.
 
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: calfzilla on January 03, 2014, 08:23:41 AM
I'm gonna make my own magic formula.

Want to "sponsor" me with some start up capital?  :D

PM sent.
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 03, 2014, 08:25:33 AM
I'm gonna make my own magic formula.

Want to "sponsor" me with some start up capital?  :D
No need to.

Just buy this at the grocery store.  Packed with Caffeine and Niacin and all B Vitamins.  Just squirt it in your water.  Its also 0 calories.

(http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/04/30/00/00/0004300000042_500X500.jpg)
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: nasht5 on January 03, 2014, 08:27:27 AM
First time i used it in 1980 i felt like my ears were on fire,my head would explode,and my elbows were bright purple.And that was from taking the suggeted dose.

yup, good stuff  ;D
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: crownshep on January 03, 2014, 08:41:02 AM
Niacin plus whisky for a good pump at the gym. Blotchy red pattern and tingling like you are having a stroke. Good old days.

What about liquid liver? Apparently it's used by anglers as bait to attract fish but it used to be a big bodybuilding supplement in the 80's. Probably full of mad cow disease.
 

I remember that liquid liver Big Al,kind of a sweet taste to it,along with a taste that made you pull faces. :-X :-X
A lot of guys did the niacin and whisky double backstage at contests for a pump.And even with false tan on you could still see bright red faces,ears and elbows. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: Ronnie Rep on January 03, 2014, 09:31:32 AM
I used to get a pre- workout drink with niacin in it! Gave me a great tingly flushed pump! I knew guys that would take before they got on stage before a show back in the day!
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 03, 2014, 10:51:45 AM
No need to.

Just buy this at the grocery store.  Packed with Caffeine and Niacin and all B Vitamins.  Just squirt it in your water.  Its also 0 calories.

(http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/04/30/00/00/0004300000042_500X500.jpg)

Looks like the beverage of a homosexual though.
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: funk51 on January 03, 2014, 10:59:25 AM
Potent vasodilator, improves cholesterol values, the most important water soluble B vitamin....
this was a favorite of this guy.guy in the middle.
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 03, 2014, 11:09:07 AM
this was a favorite of this guy.guy in the middle.

I'm certain it's what made him a great champion! Good post bro!
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: Mawse on January 03, 2014, 11:35:57 AM
From what I understand niacin will potentiate mire burning of FFAs during cardio but only after the flush has just worn off.

Great for Hdl though.. Lol at no flush
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 03, 2014, 03:57:15 PM
From what I understand niacin will potentiate mire burning of FFAs during cardio but only after the flush has just worn off.

Great for Hdl though.. Lol at no flush

It's a fascinating vitamin no doubt
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 03, 2014, 04:31:10 PM
Doesn't take much Niacin to damage the liver...Using this stuff while being on a full boat of other goodies is probably not the best idea...
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 03, 2014, 04:35:18 PM
Doesn't take much Niacin to damage the liver...Using this stuff while being on a full boat of other goodies is probably not the best idea...

How much niacin?
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 03, 2014, 04:47:43 PM
How much niacin?

I'm not too sure but i've read about some people getting acute hepa at 3 grams...In some cases that's only 3 to 6 pills...Niacin does however seem to have a lot of good benefits...Without knowing much about niacin, the niacin flush seems like and extreme event happening inside the body...And it doesn't take much to get the flush to happen...Wild vitamin for sure...
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 03, 2014, 05:11:07 PM
I'm not too sure but i've read about some people getting acute hepa at 3 grams...In some cases that's only 3 to 6 pills...Niacin does however seem to have a lot of good benefits...Without knowing much about niacin, the niacin flush seems like and extreme event happening inside the body...And it doesn't take much to get the flush to happen...Wild vitamin for sure...

Yeah the toxicity threshold seems to be low. But Same can be said for lots of beneficial stuff.
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: SCRUBS on January 03, 2014, 05:34:46 PM
Oh yeah the steroid replacement, and the liar that promoted it. ::)
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: TheShape on January 03, 2014, 05:53:19 PM
Niacin rocks, very good for mood.
Title: Re: Why is Niacin not used more frequently in pre-workout formulas?
Post by: gee38 on January 03, 2014, 06:15:29 PM
junk from the old school

mumie
chlorophyll
beta-sitersterol
FRAC
gamma oryzanol
primasorb
cybergenics phase 1
cybergenics protein ME and EM for meso / endo and ecto/meso
tropicana 'great stuff'
'homeopathic' supplements
OKG by maxi muscle

all shite that was taken because of the big bad bogeyman of anabolics........

loads of money wasted

then 100 quid spent on a ten week course of pronabol 5- dbol and the world looked a different place!!

the supplement is and was more damaging to BB than the moderate use of gear could ever be