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Really?
http://news.yahoo.com/2-nabbed-texas-border-credit-card-fraud-case-215609992.html
McALLEN, Texas (AP) — Two Mexican citizens who were arrested at the border used account information stolen during the Target security breach to buy tens of thousands of dollars' worth of merchandise, according to a South Texas police chief.
But a spokesman for the U.S. Secret Service said Tuesday that an investigation is ongoing into the possibility of a link between the Target data breach and the arrests in Texas.
One day earlier, McAllen Police Chief Victor Rodriguez said Mary Carmen Garcia, 27, and Daniel Guardiola Dominguez, 28, both of Monterrey, Mexico, had used cards containing the account information of South Texas residents stolen from Target. Rodriguez said they were used to purchase numerous items at national retailers in the area including Best Buy, Wal-Mart and Toys R Us.
"They're obviously selling the data sets by region," Rodriguez said
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They were carrying 96 fraudulent cards
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Mine the border...build a wall akin to Hadrian's with various sized garrisons of border patrol/NG and active duty military. Immediately flush the prison system of every illegal alien in custody. Those countries that don't except them back will loose the appropriate amount of foreign aid. Establish a contest among the folks in silicon valley that will develop the best AI driven security robots and drones. Put a ton of folks to work building all this.....and then in the first 6 months crucify every border jumper upside down along the border. I goddam guarantee this shit will stop. You want guest workers...fine with me...develop a program, but they go back at night or according to the rules. You come over in any other way your hamburger.
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Mine the border...build a wall akin to Hadrian's with various sized garrisons of border patrol/NG and active duty military. Immediately flush the prison system of every illegal alien in custody. Those countries that don't except them back will loose the appropriate amount of foreign aid. Establish a contest among the folks in silicon valley that will develop the best AI driven security robots and drones. Put a ton of folks to work building all this.....and then in the first 6 months crucify every border jumper upside down along the border. I goddam guarantee this shit will stop. You want guest workers...fine with me...develop a program, but they go back at night or according to the rules. You come over in any other way your hamburger.
A tear ran down my cheek (in agreement) as I read this....no homo
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Mine the border...build a wall akin to Hadrian's with various sized garrisons of border patrol/NG and active duty military. Immediately flush the prison system of every illegal alien in custody. Those countries that don't except them back will loose the appropriate amount of foreign aid. Establish a contest among the folks in silicon valley that will develop the best AI driven security robots and drones. Put a ton of folks to work building all this.....and then in the first 6 months crucify every border jumper upside down along the border. I goddam guarantee this shit will stop. You want guest workers...fine with me...develop a program, but they go back at night or according to the rules. You come over in any other way your hamburger.
+1
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Ok fine a little extreme. Why the hell is the California penal system overflowing with Illegals? Start with that shit....If anybody has been to El Paso..the Border Patrol organization down there is vast. I've never seen more non-military vehicles parked in one place at one time ever then in some of the yards there. If you make the penalties harsh...these people won't play games...but they have to be harsh. The border folks in these countries don't play games. I helped trained some Guatemalan dudes last spring and we're going to Peru to do the same in a couple of months. They don't screw around. There's generally not enough of them but when they get your ass...they enjoy shoot people. The Hondurans just past a law or something that will allow them to shoot down drug planes....yet we mickey mouse around with everybody.
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....yet we mickey mouse around with everybody.
Because a lot of politicians in BOTH PARTIES and many activists have been successful in spreading the lie that the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence applies to illegals. They like to cite the "life, liberty and pursuit of happines" phrase.
I don't advocate killing them but at the same time if you are not a citizen YOU DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHTS in this country.
You don't have a right to employment, to public resources, and to protection. Illegals have a right to NOTHING FROM THE GOVERNMENT.
But, that is not what is happening now. They are provided WITH EVERYTHING at the expense of taxpayers. Democrats did not want to cut off refundable child tax credits to illegals in order to prevent cuts to military pensions.
It is ridiculous.
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Mine the border...build a wall akin to Hadrian's with various sized garrisons of border patrol/NG and active duty military. Immediately flush the prison system of every illegal alien in custody. Those countries that don't except them back will loose the appropriate amount of foreign aid. Establish a contest among the folks in silicon valley that will develop the best AI driven security robots and drones. Put a ton of folks to work building all this.....and then in the first 6 months crucify every border jumper upside down along the border. I goddam guarantee this shit will stop. You want guest workers...fine with me...develop a program, but they go back at night or according to the rules. You come over in any other way your hamburger.
Your post made little marco Rubio cry.
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Mine the border...build a wall akin to Hadrian's with various sized garrisons of border patrol/NG and active duty military. Immediately flush the prison system of every illegal alien in custody. Those countries that don't except them back will loose the appropriate amount of foreign aid. Establish a contest among the folks in silicon valley that will develop the best AI driven security robots and drones. Put a ton of folks to work building all this.....and then in the first 6 months crucify every border jumper upside down along the border. I goddam guarantee this shit will stop. You want guest workers...fine with me...develop a program, but they go back at night or according to the rules. You come over in any other way your hamburger.
Crime is crime regardless of who is committing it. Why are so pissed off to discover the two individuals arrested were Mexican citizens? And what do Mexican citizens have to do with illegal aliens. It doesn't mean they were in the country illegally. If they were in your country illegally, don't you think the article would have stated that? ...blasted that as a headline perhaps? A xenophobic knee-jerk rant like yours may feel good when you're ranting, but the reality will feel a whole lot different if & when it's done. Your little wall, and your AI robots will be the very instruments that finish off whatever rights you and your country men have left. The gov. doesn't give a crap about Mexican crime cartels operating within the USA. If they did, Fast & Furious would never have occurred. It's not Mexican criminality they want to suppress, it's the US citizen. So you keep ranting and rallying for the gov't to spend enslave you even further, by borrowing even more money from the FED and/or the Chinese to create these technological tools for totalitarian tyranny, ...and see how long it takes for these things to be turned on YOU. Or are you forgetting what the streets of Massachusetts looked like in search of one little boy. The Hegelian dialectic in full swing.
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Your post made little marco Rubio cry.
Rubio is a traitor.
He abandoned the first step to any immigration reform. Border enforcement. Not one illegal, NOT A SINGLE ONE, should be put on any path to citizenship until the NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN borders are secured.
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Another traitor.
Once legal status is given there is nothing that can be done to prevent citizenship. This moron acts like legal status can be given, while at the same time fending off the eventual next step which is citizenship.
The third-ranking House Republican, Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (Calif.), said he backs granting legal status, but not a new pathway to citizenship ::), to millions of immigrants in the U.S. illegally.
McCarthy stated his personal view on the contentious issue in an interview with KBAK/KBFX Eyewitness News in his hometown of Bakersfield, Calif. He signaled that the call for a provisional legal status would be included in the immigration reform principles House Republican leaders are soon to release.
"The principles aren't written yet, but in my personal belief, I think it'll go with legal status that will allow you to work and pay taxes," McCarthy said.
McCarthy made clear he did not favor carving out a new path to citizenship for the estimated 11 million people in the country illegally. But his position appears to comport with the views of other senior Republicans who have called for illegal immigrants to have access to the existing route to citizenship once they receive an initial legal status and fulfill other requirements.
Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/196097-third-ranking-house-republican-backs-legal-status-for-people-in-country#ixzz2rE8kttiS
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Crime is crime regardless of who is committing it. Why are so pissed off to discover the two individuals arrested were Mexican citizens? And what do Mexican citizens have to do with illegal aliens. It doesn't mean they were in the country illegally. If they were in your country illegally, don't you think the article would have stated that? ...blasted that as a headline perhaps? A xenophobic knee-jerk rant like yours may feel good when you're ranting, but the reality will feel a whole lot different if & when it's done. Your little wall, and your AI robots will be the very instruments that finish off whatever rights you and your country men have left. The gov. doesn't give a crap about Mexican crime cartels operating within the USA. If they did, Fast & Furious would never have occurred. It's not Mexican criminality they want to suppress, it's the US citizen. So you keep ranting and rallying for the gov't to spend enslave you even further, by borrowing even more money from the FED and/or the Chinese to create these technological tools for totalitarian tyranny, ...and see how long it takes for these things to be turned on YOU. Or are you forgetting what the streets of Massachusetts looked like in search of one little boy. The Hegelian dialectic in full swing.
The use of AI and robots is because the average dude doesn't want to be stationed out in the desert for days on end. Countries secure their borders...committing economic and cultural suicide should not be part of any governments agenda. You Canadians had an issue with Chinese immigrants...so you stopped anchor babies. I wish we'd do the same.
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The use of AI and robots is because the average dude doesn't want to be stationed out in the desert for days on end. Countries secure their borders...committing economic and cultural suicide should not be part of any governments agenda. You Canadians had an issue with Chinese immigrants...so you stopped anchor babies. I wish we'd do the same.
yeah, but I'm sure they could spare a few troops worldwide and put them on the border. I'm sure there's more than a few dudes in Iraq or Africa or whereover on the other side of the world that would LOVE to be stationed in the southwest. boredom with US television and wifi all day, 2 hours from their house... OR guarding some other boring piece of sand in another hemisphere. Thoughts?
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Ok fine a little extreme. Why the hell is the California penal system overflowing with Illegals? Start with that shit....If anybody has been to El Paso..the Border Patrol organization down there is vast. I've never seen more non-military vehicles parked in one place at one time ever then in some of the yards there. If you make the penalties harsh...these people won't play games...but they have to be harsh. The border folks in these countries don't play games. I helped trained some Guatemalan dudes last spring and we're going to Peru to do the same in a couple of months. They don't screw around. There's generally not enough of them but when they get your ass...they enjoy shoot people. The Hondurans just past a law or something that will allow them to shoot down drug planes....yet we mickey mouse around with everybody.
one of my close friends was stationed right on the border on a major uS Army base in Texas.... cant remember the city... but he said it was an absolute shithole and the illegals ran drugs right through the city in plain view of the base, but they couldnt do shit about it. Said they even would fire potshots over the base as a way to show contempt foe the US laws and military.
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Why not introducing Bull shark in Rio Grande, Australian Bull shark would be happy living there ;D
(with never ending "food" supply)
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one of my close friends was stationed right on the border on a major uS Army base in Texas.... cant remember the city... but he said it was an absolute shithole and the illegals ran drugs right through the city in plain view of the base, but they couldnt do shit about it. Said they even would fire potshots over the base as a way to show contempt foe the US laws and military.
Fort Bliss bro...Ft Bliss..El Paso...asshole of the universe. If we had to, we could run all the ops from the motorpools on Post. We can shell Juarez without ever leaving. The place is a shithole. If you watch 'The Border" on FX it has scenes filmed there. The show isn't for the most part but the atmosphere stock footage is El Paso. There's a giant Mexican flag that you can see for miles...flying over Juarez. Downtown El Paso is no different then Mexico....the place sucks. I was deploying so my wife was there for 5 months then I made her move back home.
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yeah, but I'm sure they could spare a few troops worldwide and put them on the border. I'm sure there's more than a few dudes in Iraq or Africa or whereover on the other side of the world that would LOVE to be stationed in the southwest. boredom with US television and wifi all day, 2 hours from their house... OR guarding some other boring piece of sand in another hemisphere. Thoughts?
Yeah if you're gonna militarize the border. You can't do that to the border patrol guys so they're gonna have to run shifts to cover the massive empty spots that aren't adjacent to towns. That's why I said a Hadrian's wall type thing. The wall itself was manned by rotational garrisons that were backed by more permanent garrisons closer to towns. The border patrol guys have a pretty sweet deal. You can be a guy working on the Canadian border..which is a career choice and then do a temp 18 month southern border rotation with full per diem etc. So basically double pay and you don't have to move your family close to the shithole that is Mexico.
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The use of AI and robots is because the average dude doesn't want to be stationed out in the desert for days on end. Countries secure their borders...committing economic and cultural suicide should not be part of any governments agenda. You Canadians had an issue with Chinese immigrants...so you stopped anchor babies. I wish we'd do the same.
We had no issue with Chinese immigrants, ...other than the Hong Kong millionaires driving up the property values.
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http://www.canadaupdates.com/content/crackdown-canada-%E2%80%98passport-babies%E2%80%99-17734.html
According to CIC(Citizenship and Immigration Canada), the practice of moving to Canada to give birth to a child for the purposes of gaining Canadian citizenship will be dealt with strictly.
Canada to act tough on ‘birth tourism’--This step by CIC comes following several reports concerning unscrupulous immigration consultants advising pregnant Chinese women to get Canada citizenship for their children by giving birth in Canada.
Speaking about the issue, official spokesperson of CIC, Candice Malcolm said several crooked immigration consultants are encouraging pregnant Chinese women to gain benefits in Canada by simply delivering their babies there.
The advice is quite clear. It says pregnant women wanting to move to Canada must not have any baby items in their luggage, should wear dark clothes to appear slimmer while undergoing custom checks and come to Canada not later than the seventh month of their pregnancy.
Moreover, immigration consultants also ask pregnant women coming to Canada to keep themselves in hiding until they go into labor, reports state. Malcolm criticized such practice of abusing Canada immigration rules since it was unfair to put the burden on Canadian taxpayers.
Changes to Canada citizenship rules next year—Canadian government will be introducing reviews to Canada citizenship rules in the year 2013, the official spokesperson Malcolm informed.
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I'd read you'd done it....if not, there are still more bears then Canadians. You can keep the dinks..we'll take more hockey players.
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Yeah if you're gonna militarize the border. You can't do that to the border patrol guys so they're gonna have to run shifts to cover the massive empty spots that aren't adjacent to towns. That's why I said a Hadrian's wall type thing. The wall itself was manned by rotational garrisons that were backed by more permanent garrisons closer to towns. The border patrol guys have a pretty sweet deal. You can be a guy working on the Canadian border..which is a career choice and then do a temp 18 month southern border rotation with full per diem etc. So basically double pay and you don't have to move your family close to the shithole that is Mexico.
can't the border patrol work with the military?
maybe just take those open miles of space - call that US territory and have the military guard it.
Then just have the border patrol focus on the cities and the normal civilian interaction so you don't have army guys frisking carloads of people, giving alex jones more material haha.
Call this wide open area off limits. Detain + export anyone that shows up there. Maybe even drop them off in south south mexico so it's a longer walk back.
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We can and do but dude.....there are huge area's that you'd have to build semi-permanant bases for. It would be expensive and a large scale op like this would require laws to be re-written. I did a JTF-6 in 95 while in the Marines. Spent 2 weeks parked in the middle of east buttfuck arizona doing nothing. They brought food out to us every 3 days. The border patrol is big enough if the border is secured right.
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Imagine 10,000 people from iran moved to Mexico.
imagine 10,000 more from afghanistan moved to Mexico.
imagine 50,000 people from afghanistan moved to mexico.
Would palin and the other tree-huggers still support being able to let them just stroll on in?
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The insanity in this thread is strong.
Nothing wrong with those 'Bad Ass' motion sensors machine guns like on Golan hights or Korean borders.
Bad Ass detects heat or motions & adios amigos ;D
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http://www.canadaupdates.com/content/crackdown-canada-%E2%80%98passport-babies%E2%80%99-17734.html
According to CIC(Citizenship and Immigration Canada), the practice of moving to Canada to give birth to a child for the purposes of gaining Canadian citizenship will be dealt with strictly.
Canada to act tough on ‘birth tourism’--This step by CIC comes following several reports concerning unscrupulous immigration consultants advising pregnant Chinese women to get Canada citizenship for their children by giving birth in Canada.
Speaking about the issue, official spokesperson of CIC, Candice Malcolm said several crooked immigration consultants are encouraging pregnant Chinese women to gain benefits in Canada by simply delivering their babies there.
The advice is quite clear. It says pregnant women wanting to move to Canada must not have any baby items in their luggage, should wear dark clothes to appear slimmer while undergoing custom checks and come to Canada not later than the seventh month of their pregnancy.
Moreover, immigration consultants also ask pregnant women coming to Canada to keep themselves in hiding until they go into labor, reports state. Malcolm criticized such practice of abusing Canada immigration rules since it was unfair to put the burden on Canadian taxpayers.
Changes to Canada citizenship rules next year—Canadian government will be introducing reviews to Canada citizenship rules in the year 2013, the official spokesperson Malcolm informed.
Whenever there are rules or guidelines in place, people will always find a way to meet those rules or get around them. Doesn't mean there is a widespread epidemic of "anchor babies". Just because an immigration consultant advises their clients of this, it is NOT the case. We've seen many families with Canadian born & raised citizens deported. We don't have "anchor babies" up here.
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Because a lot of politicians in BOTH PARTIES and many activists have been successful in spreading the lie that the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence applies to illegals. They like to cite the "life, liberty and pursuit of happines" phrase.
I don't advocate killing them but at the same time if you are not a citizen YOU DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHTS in this country.
You don't have a right to employment, to public resources, and to protection. Illegals have a right to NOTHING FROM THE GOVERNMENT.
But, that is not what is happening now. They are provided WITH EVERYTHING at the expense of taxpayers. Democrats did not want to cut off refundable child tax credits to illegals in order to prevent cuts to military pensions.
It is ridiculous.
as a Permanent Resident I have the same rights as a citizen, being a non-Citizen is not the same as being an illegal ::)
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Whenever there are rules or guidelines in place, people will always find a way to meet those rules or get around them. Doesn't mean there is a widespread epidemic of "anchor babies". Just because an immigration consultant advises their clients of this, it is NOT the case. We've seen many families with Canadian born & raised citizens deported. We don't have "anchor babies" up here.
So Canada doesn`t let an illegal immigrant stay if they have a kid in while in Canada?
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There is no way that in the US we would roundup every illegal immigrant -there are about 12 million of the illegal immigrants- not only economically is that just an impossibility but that's not a humane way anyway to deal with the issue that we face with illegal immigration.
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240....I'm headed to Peru in May...come with me. I'll tell them your a journalist...after 6 days you'll never post this shit again.
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240....I'm headed to Peru in May...come with me. I'll tell them your a journalist...after 6 days you'll never post this shit again.
LOL! The irony is that what I posted was a comment made by Sarah Palin in 2008 while running for VP.
There is no way that in the US we would roundup every illegal immigrant -there are about 12 million of the illegal immigrants- not only economically is that just an impossibility but that's not a humane way anyway to deal with the issue that we face with illegal immigration.
and another one...
I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.
http://archivo.univision.com/content/content.jhtml?cid=1716304&pagenum=2
Everyone here knows I don't suport amnesty, not in the least. But with so many Repubs leaning toward amnesty, who needs dems?
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I find it funny that people who have no real idea of the situation have such opinions on it. Most have never seen the border, never seen the utter lack of supervision and under staffing on it. Most have never dealth with the results of the large scale illegal immigrants. Most dont know there are plenty of work programs for immigrants that allow them to come to the US and work for months at a time.
If these people had actual experience they would probably have a much different view of the issue.
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I find it funny that people who have no real idea of the situation have such opinions on it. Most have never seen the border, never seen the utter lack of supervision and under staffing on it. Most have never dealth with the results of the large scale illegal immigrants. Most dont know there are plenty of work programs for immigrants that allow them to come to the US and work for months at a time.
If these people had actual experience they would probably have a much different view of the issue.
you're right about that (myself included, since I'm in FL and while we have plenty of illegals, I'm sure its nothing like TX)...
Governor Palin had ZERO idea approx how many illegals were in Alaska, her own state...
Yet she believed she could speak on the issue better than people who live near the border with mexico.
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There's a border patrol checkpoint about 70 miles from El Paso that everybody has to go through...I've never been so pissed off in my life...but if ur a white guy they barely look at you.
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There's a border patrol checkpoint about 70 miles from El Paso that everybody has to go through...I've never been so pissed off in my life...but if ur a white guy they barely look at you.
hahah yup there is one on the way to Del Rio that we hit on the way to hunt and its the same way. Those bastards dont have a big sense of humor though so dont ever joke about smuggling illegals with them lol.
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you're right about that (myself included, since I'm in FL and while we have plenty of illegals, I'm sure its nothing like TX)...
Governor Palin had ZERO idea approx how many illegals were in Alaska, her own state...
Yet she believed she could speak on the issue better than people who live near the border with mexico.
Yes yes 240 I know you will use this issue to bash reps all the while claiming to be against the stance you are really for like you fucking always do.
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Yes yes 240 I know you will use this issue to bash reps all the while claiming to be against the stance you are really for like you fucking always do.
I disagree with every politician that endorses amnesty. No matter the party.
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I disagree with every politician that endorses amnesty. No matter the party.
yet you only constantly bash one for it...imagine that ::)
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yet you only constantly bash one for it...imagine that ::)
I see her as the poster child for everything wrong with the GOP.
Palin was treated as a seriously prepared, intelligent, experienced and viable candidate for Vice President. (And the way she flip flopped on global warming and amnesty in ONE DAY once her advisers explained these issues to her...)
Ron paul, with his ten terms of office, military experience, and amazingly solid conservative record, was NOT.
RP was shunned at the convention, and I remember some getbiggers saying "Good! It'll unite the party behind Romney" when it did quite the opposite.
Every reminder of Palin is a reminder to NEVER again excuse ignorance because someone looks hot. The DEMS learned their lesson... hold the 08 election today, and they choose experience (hilary) over good speeches (obama) this time.
If Palin ran today... would repubs nominate her? I think there's a good chance she'd be in the top 3. "But she has STAR power!" would be the defense. So does Miley Cyrus...
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I see her as the poster child for everything wrong with the GOP.
Palin was treated as a seriously prepared, intelligent, experienced and viable candidate for Vice President. (And the way she flip flopped on global warming and amnesty in ONE DAY once her advisers explained these issues to her...)
Ron paul, with his ten terms of office, military experience, and amazingly solid conservative record, was NOT.
RP was shunned at the convention, and I remember some getbiggers saying "Good! It'll unite the party behind Romney" when it did quite the opposite.
Every reminder of Palin is a reminder to NEVER again excuse ignorance because someone looks hot. The DEMS learned their lesson... hold the 08 election today, and they choose experience (hilary) over good speeches (obama) this time.
If Palin ran today... would repubs nominate her? I think there's a good chance she'd be in the top 3. "But she has STAR power!" would be the defense. So does Miley Cyrus...
Yup that justifies your one sidedness on this issue ::)
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Mine the border...build a wall akin to Hadrian's with various sized garrisons of border patrol/NG and active duty military. Immediately flush the prison system of every illegal alien in custody. Those countries that don't except them back will loose the appropriate amount of foreign aid. Establish a contest among the folks in silicon valley that will develop the best AI driven security robots and drones. Put a ton of folks to work building all this.....and then in the first 6 months crucify every border jumper upside down along the border. I goddam guarantee this shit will stop. You want guest workers...fine with me...develop a program, but they go back at night or according to the rules. You come over in any other way your hamburger.
YES!!!!
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Yes yes 240 I know you will use this issue to bash reps all the while claiming to be against the stance you are really for like you fucking always do.
Yeah, fuck 240! Who does he think he is? Having opinions that don't fit into a neat little box and all.
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hahah yup there is one on the way to Del Rio that we hit on the way to hunt and its the same way. Those bastards dont have a big sense of humor though so dont ever joke about smuggling illegals with them lol.
Tony, I found some video of you giving those poor "bastards" a hard time and I'm ashamed of you:
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Yeah, fuck 240! Who does he think he is? Having opinions that don't fit into a neat little box and all.
LOL I dont know what I did to butt hurt you so bad, maybe your an albert gimmick. whatever it is please refrain from stalking me any further ;)
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LOL I dont know what I did to butt hurt you so bad, maybe your an albert gimmick. whatever it is please refrain from stalking me any further ;)
Dude, I'm not stalking you but think you are too harsh on 240.
Reminds me of some hardcore Muslims, actually. You know, where they hate Christians but they're even more pissed off at their fellow Muslims who aren't from their exact same sect.
240 is a moderate conservative/libertarian. What's the big deal?
(What's an "albert" gimmick, btw?)
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Of course the US government could secure the borders. It has the largest military in the world. But it doesn't want to. Neither political party wants it. The illegals keep coming regardless of which party is in power. There's a reason for that.
True.
the federal government no longer represents the american people and certainly does not act in their best interest. They dont even pretend to anymore.
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Dude, I'm not stalking you but think you are too harsh on 240.
Reminds me of some hardcore Muslims, actually. You know, where they hate Christians but they're even more pissed off at their fellow Muslims who aren't from their exact same sect.
240 is a moderate conservative/libertarian. What's the big deal?
(What's an "albert" gimmick, btw?)
I believe 240 voted for Barry the first time around...could be wrong. he sure as hell supported the guy for far to long. He's since seen the light.
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Dude, I'm not stalking you but think you are too harsh on 240.
Reminds me of some hardcore Muslims, actually. You know, where they hate Christians but they're even more pissed off at their fellow Muslims who aren't from their exact same sect.
240 is a moderate conservative/libertarian. What's the big deal?
(What's an "albert" gimmick, btw?)
LOL bro youve been on here since 2011 and have less than 1,000 posts. Ive been on here since 2007 and have over 20,000. I have had much much more dealing with the dousche that is 240 than you have. I have seen him flat out lie, make up stories/facts and other plainly retard things in that time. 240 isnt against amnesty, he is saying he is so he can bash reps for being for it. It is a typical 240 tactic...Just like him saying he was for Ted Cruz, guess what I called that too...
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I find it funny that people who have no real idea of the situation have such opinions on it. Most have never seen the border, never seen the utter lack of supervision and under staffing on it. Most have never dealth with the results of the large scale illegal immigrants. Most dont know there are plenty of work programs for immigrants that allow them to come to the US and work for months at a time.
If these people had actual experience they would probably have a much different view of the issue.
Last time I was down there we went to Juarez. What a fucking shithole. Never again.
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It is a typical 240 tactic...Just like him saying he was for Ted Cruz, guess what I called that too...
Or like when he said he supported Ron Paul but yet couldn't find the time to vote for him.
Too bad RRKore is too much of an idiot to see though him, but such naivete is to be expected from a moron who still supports obamatheclown.
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Or like when he said he supported Ron Paul but yet couldn't find the time to vote for him.
Too bad RRKore is too much of an idiot to see though him, but such naivete is to be expected from a moron who still supports obamatheclown.
FL primary voting laws are kinda shitty for registered independents. Plus I had just moved, RP already conceded the state and left for the next one. I would have driven 45 minutes to *try* to have them change my affiliation AND voting location on the spot, and they would have given me a mail-in ballot, so that it'd help if it was tied and went to the recounts.
As we all know, Ron Paul won 7% of Florida votes.
Nobody here can argue that my voting RP in primary would have had any effect on outcome. I mean, there are lots of reasons to shit on someone, but not driving 45 minutes to try to vote outside affiliation AND new location for a mail in ballot, for a guy who already conceded the state and won 7%?
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Or like when he said he supported Ron Paul but yet couldn't find the time to vote for him.
Too bad RRKore is too much of an idiot to see though him, but such naivete is to be expected from a moron who still supports obamatheclown.
LOL he has changed his story on how he voted for reps or dems or independents more times then he has bashed zimmerman so...
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LOL he has changed his story on how he voted for reps or dems or independents more times then he has bashed zimmerman so...
Errr, you aren't the most consistent or straightforward when it comes to your internet claims either, to be honest. Or do you finally recall which organization(s) awarded you your 2 supposed National Judo championships?
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Errr, you aren't the most consistent or straightforward when it comes to your internet claims either, to be honest. Or do you finally recall which organization(s) awarded you your 2 supposed National Judo championships?
I have never been inconsistent with my claims, and it was 2 different associations.
As I have explained many times I like most national/international competitors competed in a number of different associations nationals.
and yea...youre not stalking me....
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I have never been inconsistent with my claims, and it was 2 different associations.
As I have explained many times I like most national/international competitors competed in a number of different associations nationals.
and yea...youre not stalking me....
Sure. Sounds completely plausible ;).
And I'm not stalking you any more than you and your cheerleader (dumbass Dario) are stalking 240.
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Sure. Sounds completely plausible ;).
And I'm not stalking you any more than you and your cheerleader (dumbass Dario) are stalking 240.
hahah coming from someone ignorant on the situation I can see how you would come to that conclusion but that is due to the ignorance...not that I give shit if some faceless, nameless person on the interweb believes me.
LMFAO I dont google search ppl from an interweb forum stalker....
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LMFAO I dont google search ppl from an interweb forum stalker....
Naw, making vague claims about multiple national championships that you can't really remember the details of is more your speed. Or did you conveniently forget why I did a search, ya prevaricating sack o' alleged judoka?
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Naw, making vague claims about multiple national championships that you can't really remember the details of is more your speed. Or did you conveniently forget why I did a search, ya prevaricating sack o' alleged judoka?
hahah I have posted more than enough evidence for someone to know who I am and what I have accomplished. The gi I wore in a US open given to me by a Japanese olympian while training with his college and living with his family in Japan has both of our names on it in clear view. The gi has the location and year on it right next to the big "USA" to show what country I represented.
Again I dont know why you think I someone who has posted pics, videos etc to prove myself should need to prove myself further to a nameless, faceless fatass on the interwebz...maybe you feel important in your life but trust me your arent here...
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hahah I have posted more than enough evidence for someone to know who I am and what I have accomplished. The gi I wore in a US open given to me by a Japanese olympian while training with his college and living with his family in Japan has both of our names on it in clear view. The gi has the location and year on it right next to the big "USA" to show what country I represented.
Again I dont know why you think I someone who has posted pics, videos etc to prove myself should need to prove myself further to a nameless, faceless fatass on the interwebz...maybe you feel important in your life but trust me your arent here...
What does representing your country vs Japan have to do with winning 3 national championships in the USA? Any other human who won national championships in anything is gonna remember stuff as basic as which organization it was for. Fergawdsakes, did you not get a trophy, a plaque, a medal, or at least some certificate for your "national championship"? If so, then the org will be listed on your hardware. Your story isn't credible unless there's some head injury (which destroyed your memory) or some house fire (that destroyed your trophies) that you're not telling us about.
And, dude, I don't really GAF about this except that you come off as hypocritical by criticizing others for what you suspect are their tall tales regarding personal details, ya know?
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What does representing your country vs Japan have to do with winning 3 national championships in the USA? Any other human who won national championships in anything is gonna remember stuff as basic as which organization it was for. Fergawdsakes, did you not get a trophy, a plaque, a medal, or at least some certificate for your "national championship"? If so, then the org will be listed on your hardware. Your story isn't credible unless there's some head injury (which destroyed your memory) or some house fire (that destroyed your trophies) that you're not telling us about.
And, dude, I don't really GAF about this except that you come off as hypocritical by criticizing others for what you suspect are their tall tales regarding personal details, ya know?
haha it was 2 national championships and I dont believe I ever fought anyone from Japan in a tournament...your reading comp is pretty damn bad.
LOL Dude I probably fought in on average 3 tournaments a month every year for like 7 or 8 years. When you do that shit tends to run together. Yup they gave medals, medals I no longer have.
I am not being hypocritical at all, again I HAVE NEVER BEEN INCONSISTENT!!!!
others however like 240 have consistently changed their story on whether they voted rep, dem, or independent.
Now kindly piss off, im tired of your stupidty
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haha it was 2 national championships and I dont believe I ever fought anyone from Japan in a tournament...your reading comp is pretty damn bad.
LOL Dude I probably fought in on average 3 tournaments a month every year for like 7 or 8 years. When you do that shit tends to run together. Yup they gave medals, medals I no longer have.
I am not being hypocritical at all, again I HAVE NEVER BEEN INCONSISTENT!!!!
others however like 240 have consistently changed their story on whether they voted rep, dem, or independent.
Now kindly piss off, im tired of your stupidty
3 tournaments a month would explain why you don't remember specific tournaments but unless you were also winning 2 or 3 national championships a month for years, it's not reasonable to believe you don't recall the organization -- Unless this was in the 3 - 5 year old kid division --- In which case you're still shady by knowingly misrepresenting your accomplishments just to use an "appeal to authority" strategy to win argument with internet strangers.
Lame, dude. Just lame.
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3 tournaments a month would explain why you don't remember specific tournaments but unless you were also winning 2 or 3 national championships a month for years, it's not reasonable to believe you don't recall the organization -- Unless this was in the 3 - 5 year old kid division --- In which case you're still shady by knowingly misrepresenting your accomplishments just to use an "appeal to authority" strategy to win argument with internet strangers.
Lame, dude. Just lame.
hahah I dont expect someone who has never competed at a high level in a sport to understand. Never the less someone who has never competed in sports like yourself.
If competing in multiple national championships every year along with other national tournaments and international tournaments all of which belonged to different organzations/associations of which I won many and medeled in more isnt a valid reason for you well I guess you will have to stumble through the rest of your shitty life not convinced...I apologize LMFAO
now again kindly piss off
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love how you guys argue like voting even matters..
WAKE UP america... geez :o
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hahah I dont expect someone who has never competed at a high level in a sport to understand. Never the less someone who has never competed in sports like yourself.
If competing in multiple national championships every year along with other national tournaments and international tournaments all of which belonged to different organzations/associations of which I won many and medeled in more isnt a valid reason for you well I guess you will have to stumble through the rest of your shitty life not convinced...I apologize LMFAO
now again kindly piss off
Hilarious.
Supposedly you won only 2 national championships though you spent a lot of time (and probably money, too) competing for years and you are seriously trying to sell the idea that those rare wins were so unimportant to you that you can't remember basic details about them? Oh, brother.
Earth to Tony, NO ONE would believe this. It's a total joke, mang.
C'mon, 'fess up. You made an offhand exaggeration that you got called out on (and probably instantly regretted) and since then you've been trying to shovel shit to avoid admitting that you lied.
You'll feel better if you admit, I promise. ;D
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Hilarious.
Supposedly you won only 2 national championships though you spent a lot of time (and probably money, too) competing for years and you are seriously trying to sell the idea that those rare wins were so unimportant to you that you can't remember basic details about them? Oh, brother.
Earth to Tony, NO ONE would believe this. It's a total joke, mang.
C'mon, 'fess up. You made an offhand exaggeration that you got called out on (and probably instantly regretted) and since then you've been trying to shovel shit to avoid admitting that you lied.
You'll feel better if you admit, I promise. ;D
LMFAO believe or dont whatever
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Aaaaaanyways, this thread sorta concerns (illegal) immigration, right?
Concerning immigration reform, I think I agree with what the NY Times' Ross Douthat thinks is a good idea:
A reasonable compromise, for instance, would condition amnesty for illegal immigrants on substantial new enforcement measures, to ensure that this mass legalization would be the last.
That makes me pro-amnesty but, like Douthat, I think it makes sense to tighten border security first.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/02/opinion/sunday/douthat-the-gops-immigration-delusion.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/02/opinion/sunday/douthat-the-gops-immigration-delusion.html?_r=0)
(Now I'm sure some folks here would prefer current "illegals" be sent off to the ovens Nazi-style rather than being given amnesty but am wondering what others think.)
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Aaaaaanyways, this thread sorta concerns (illegal) immigration, right?
Concerning immigration reform, I think I agree with what the NY Times' Ross Douthat thinks is a good idea:
A reasonable compromise, for instance, would condition amnesty for illegal immigrants on substantial new enforcement measures, to ensure that this mass legalization would be the last.
That makes me pro-amnesty but, like Douthat, I think it makes sense to tighten border security first.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/02/opinion/sunday/douthat-the-gops-immigration-delusion.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/02/opinion/sunday/douthat-the-gops-immigration-delusion.html?_r=0)
(Now I'm sure some folks here would prefer current "illegals" be sent off to the ovens Nazi-style rather than being given amnesty but am wondering what others think.)
I dont see the argument against securing the borders at all to be honest. I know alot of liberals for some reason are against it but I dont understand why...
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I dont see the argument against securing the borders at all to be honest. I know alot of liberals for some reason are against it but I dont understand why...
What Douthat is against is giving amnesty before securing the borders and I agree with him.
As far as being against securing the borders at all, I would think that the only logical reason for that might be that the expense is too great (and you'd eventually be giving up that cheap manual labor).
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I dont see the argument against securing the borders at all to be honest. I know alot of liberals for some reason are against it but I dont understand why...
I think if anyone has any reason to be against securing the borders is just that securing borders secures them from both sides. Not letting people in means not letting people out either.
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I think if anyone has any reason to be against securing the borders is just that securing borders secures them from both sides. Not letting people in means not letting people out either.
good point sir
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What Douthat is against is giving amnesty before securing the borders and I agree with him.
As far as being against securing the borders at all, I would think that the only logical reason for that might be that the expense is too great (and you'd eventually be giving up that cheap manual labor).
I dont understand your first sentence...
Trust me as someone who has worked for a company who utilized govt programs to obtain labor from mexico securing the border wont stop cheap manual labor. I dont think securing the border would be anymore expensive than the amount spent on illegals as it is now and will be in the future.
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good point sir
That's really my only issue with it.
I recall the Nazis doing the same thing and I do not like the idea of my country going that route.
That said. I do not believe that illegals should be given access to public goods.
I am for making immigration easy. Anyone should be able to apply for a social security card immediately and pay taxes if required.
I have to admit though that the illegals make certain things like lettuce and oranges cheaper for us to purchase.
Economically it's a very thin line you have to walk.
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That's really my only issue with it.
I recall the Nazis doing the same thing and I do not like the idea of my country going that route.
That said. I do not believe that illegals should be given access to public goods.
I am for making immigration easy. Anyone should be able to apply for a social security card immediately and pay taxes if required.
I have to admit though that the illegals make certain things like lettuce and oranges cheaper for us to purchase.
Economically it's a very thin line you have to walk.
better be careful tu or you will be labeled a CT Right Wing Racist, Homophobe
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better be careful tu or you will be labeled a CT Right Wing Racist, Homophobe
I've been called everything really... people say that if you don't follow one or the other to a T, then you must be the other extreme.
I think more people are like me, but we aren't the squeaky wheels.
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I think if anyone has any reason to be against securing the borders is just that securing borders secures them from both sides. Not letting people in means not letting people out either.
BINGO!!! ...been saying this for years. These so called "measures" they sell you on aren't about securing borders against illegals or terrorists. They are not about targeting illegals and controlling their movements. They're all about targeting YOU as Americans, ...and controlling YOUR movements. Wake Up America!!!
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make train from san fran to mexico
put all illegals and anyone who cant speak english on it
drop em in mexico
charge 5k a head to mexican government
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Dreamer creates nightmare for American family.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/immigration-detention-teen-leaf-pile-deaths-22353625
A 19-year-old Oregon woman who drove an SUV into a leaf pile, accidentally killing two young girls playing in it, has been taken into federal custody and may face deportation.
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said on Monday that Cinthya Garcia-Cisneros is being placed in removal proceedings and will be held at a detention center in Tacoma while she awaits a bond hearing before an immigration judge.
"The immigration judge will determine whether or not Ms. Garcia-Cisneros remains in detention for the duration of her immigration case," ICE spokesman Andrew Munoz said in a statement.
Garcia-Cisneros was sentenced to three years of probation and 250 hours of community service on Friday. A jury found the woman guilty of two counts of felony hit-and-run earlier this month.
Prosecutors said the crash on Oct. 20 in Forest Grove, 25 miles west of Portland, was an accident. But they say the teen failed to come forward after learning she might have struck the children in the leaf pile, which was on the street. Police found her the following day.
Authorities said the two girls — later identified as stepsisters, 6-year-old Anna Dieter-Eckerdt and 11-year-old Abigail Robinson — were likely concealed by the leaves and not visible to Garcia-Cisneros.
Anna died at the scene. Abigail died later at a Portland hospital.
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Hopefully, Republicans make Boehner honor these decision.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/feb/6/boehner-says-no-immigration-deal-until-obama-enfor/?page=2
Boehner says no immigration deal until Obama enforces laws
House Speaker John A. Boehner said Thursday that until President Obama proves he’s serious about enforcing immigration laws, it will be difficult to get a bill through the House this year — dealing a potentially fatal blow to the chances for action in 2014.
“Listen, there’s widespread doubt about whether this administration can be trusted to enforce our laws. And it’s going to be difficult to move any immigration legislation until that changes,” the Ohio Republican told reporters at his weekly press conference.
Mr. Boehner and fellow Republicans said Mr. Obama’s credibility on the immigration issue has suffered both because of his previous moves to change policy and stop many deportations under existing laws, and because of the tone of his State of the Union address last month, when the president said he would take even more unilateral actions.
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/feb/6/boehner-says-no-immigration-deal-until-obama-enfor/?page=1#ixzz2sZKORevv
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I heart Boehner....we'll see.
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Hopefully he sticks by that. Its amazing to see a little bit of resistance to the democrats for once instead of attacking his own.
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I think this time he caved to the folks inside the House.....they want to shitcan him.