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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Powerlifting / Strongman => Topic started by: Brooklyn lifter on January 11, 2006, 03:24:17 PM
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If a lifetime natural guy with average genetics starts training at 18 and benches 135. What would be a realistic max bench can he expect over his career????
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700lbs? are you mad? id say lifetime natural training, average genetics, about 350lbs
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i don't think that a 1015 negative drop to the chest with a billion ply shirt on stage at the Olympia while wearing sunglasses indoors would be out of the question.
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i don't think that a 1015 negative drop to the chest with a billion ply shirt on stage at the Olympia while wearing sunglasses indoors would be out of the question.
^ LOL
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i don't think that a 1015 negative drop to the chest with a billion ply shirt on stage at the Olympia while wearing sunglasses indoors would be out of the question.
Hey man...
You forgot to mention the beanie.
A Cleveland Browns beanie is mandatory!
Makes you look "tough". People will disregard obesity... BAM!
YIP
Zack
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Any dude who can bench double their bodyweight should be considered strong. The catch is that it must be done w/o any assistance (drugs, bench shirts) and the rep must be full range. ;)
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Benching more than 400 without drugs is impossible, well it is for me, i can do 225 right now! soon ill go on drugs and ill be doing 450 in 3 weeks! i cant wait
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450 pds would be a good goal
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brooklyn lifter, for your age and size, i'd say anything over 200lbs is realistic. i'd shoot for a goal of about 300-400lbs over a few years. just my opinion. how strong and how much do you bench now?
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::) duh! oops! you didn't state your age and size. you just said 18 and 135lb bench.
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That was me some 12 years ago. Right now i am around 260 for one. totally natural and about 165lb. Just started back on the creatine and expect to hit 275 for three. My ultimate goal is three plates (320). I give myself four years to do this. Is this realistic???
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I went from 275 to near 400 in less than a year, natural.
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How tall are you?I feel it also has to be taken into consideration as the leverage factor is different between a tall or short person.
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I went from 275 to near 400 in less than a year, natural.
I'll call bullshit !
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I am only 5'8" with long arms.
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I would probably expect you being realistic here being able to build up to a 375-425 lb bench.Somewhere in that range.This is however taking into consideration all the other aspects such as diet(nutrition),training style etc.Realistically 315 for 1 in 4 years is being over realistic.You should be able to do this within a year of training I would think.The 375-425 should take you a few yrs to build up to esp. the higher end of them numbers w/a rep range of between 1-6.
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At 5ft 8in, 450 could be an attainable goal for you by your mid-late 20's. Really at that hieght 450 isn't all that much, you could wieght like 240ish and be really stacked steroid free if you took the time, but your bodyfat isn't gonna be that low.
Myself, I plan on benching about 380 this summer/fall at about 255 bodyweight but I am tall at 6ft 4in. My arms will be over 20inches though so go figure.
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best advice.....get a spotter so you can get used to handling heavy weights with safety, even if you can't do the weight by yourself yet, sometimes all it takes is a few fingers under the bar.
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Since going on gear i put 6 reps on my bench in 3 weeks! ;D
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where the mind goes the body will follow :) anythings possible
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three plates is 315 and you should have a higher goal than that i hit 340 today weigh 220 and im 16 hit me up email dblocc70755@yahoo.com
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i duont know wheteher u yanks train earlier or have better supplemments etc but basically no 16-17 yr old can bench newhere near 320lbs natural with full range of motion no bounce here in ireland. dunno wat it is. maybe a lot oif yas r liars lol just kiddin.
seriously 320lbs is a great target for lifetime natural average genetics, feull ROM
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405 is achievable for any natural lifter over 200 lbs b/w. If they train long enough and eat like crazy.
The toughest part is training through injuries and continuing to find routines to add 10-15 lbs to your bench.
-Art
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very few people can bench three plates...if you can do that, then you are doing quite well.....most people can't do more than two plates plus...
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very few people can bench three plates...if you can do that, then you are doing quite well.....most people can't do more than two plates plus...
Very true.
The "five plates" benchpressing in FLEX mag has totally fcuked up everyone idea of a good bench.
If someone can benchpress 4 plates while weighing under 200 lbs, then that would make you very competitive in almost any benchpress competition.
The best natural benchpresser in the world @198 lbs presses cerca 525 lbs raw.
His name is Dennis Cieri, and he's an absolute freak. One of the best raw benchpressers regardless weightclass IMO.
So if your benchpress is only 125-150 lbs behind his, then you are of course elite.
(http://youtube.com/watch?v=voBuTDEmyhc)
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Very true.
The "five plates" benchpressing in FLEX mag has totally fcuked up everyone idea of a good bench.
If someone can benchpress 4 plates while weighing under 200 lbs, then that would make you very competitive in almost any benchpress competition.
The best natural benchpresser in the world @198 lbs presses cerca 525 lbs raw.
His name is Dennis Cieri, and he's an absolute freak. One of the best raw benchpressers regardless weightclass IMO.
So if your benchpress is only 125-150 lbs behind his, then you are of course elite.
(http://youtube.com/watch?v=voBuTDEmyhc)
I agree with you on this...the magazines would have us think that we can and should be supermen, able to lift hundreds of pounds if we only put in a lot of effort in the gym...this leads to people having very unrealistic goals concerning their personal lifts...I am trying to get to 315 but find I am having great difficulty getting past 275 on bench...I am going to need another year to achieve this goal...and I still may not be able to do it.....depending on your height, weight, stress levels, diet, motivation, etc, we as individuals only have so much finite strength and we cannot keep making gains in strength forever...pretty soon we will reach the strength ceiling for our bodies and will be unable to go further unless we get a little "help" if you know what I mean. everyone on here should stop worrying and just do their thing...worry about your own body and strength and don't worry about what others are doing
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I agree with you on this...the magazines would have us think that we can and should be supermen, able to lift hundreds of pounds if we only put in a lot of effort in the gym...this leads to people having very unrealistic goals concerning their personal lifts...I am trying to get to 315 but find I am having great difficulty getting past 275 on bench...I am going to need another year to achieve this goal...and I still may not be able to do it.....depending on your height, weight, stress levels, diet, motivation, etc, we as individuals only have so much finite strength and we cannot keep making gains in strength forever...pretty soon we will reach the strength ceiling for our bodies and will be unable to go further unless we get a little "help" if you know what I mean. everyone on here should stop worrying and just do their thing...worry about your own body and strength and don't worry about what others are doing
wow..I posted the above over two years ago..and I still haven't 315 yet
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I'm 43 and 155# 5'8" and bench 195-205 for 6-8 reps during workout. I have no spotter so I have no clue what my max would be. ???
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230-240 I reckon
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Well I guess that's not too bad for an old non steriod user. 8)
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I can go about 285 for one rep.....but I have started to work chest every two days now and my warm-up poundages are increasing..trying to hit 315 by end of the year..
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Anybody that can cleanly bp double their own bodyweight is a fvcking beast! Id say a 1.5 times bodyweight bp would be a decent and realistic goal for most