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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Wolfox on February 14, 2014, 11:45:00 AM
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Your var is winny. Primo = Eq. Mast = Test
More common than most thought.
Still wonder if these reports are legit tho. Vets and trusted members have biases too.
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Is that this home test kit? "People" say that shit doesn't work properly.
This is pretty interesting, however
http://www.wedinos.org/db/samples
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Is that this home test kit? "People" say that shit doesn't work properly.
This is pretty interesting, however
http://www.wedinos.org/db/samples
I wish they would make the UGL name searchable. Talk about pwning.
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i've got those bd.eu anavar tabs at my house. good thing i didn't pay for them as there is no active compound ;D
they should list how many mgs of the compound are in there though. the main ingredient could be oxandrolone but only 5mg when it is listed as 50mg
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The wedinos site is epic
I assume when you talk about labmax you mean the thread on AB?
what was awesome as fuck was 2 gh15 sources being called out for fake/mislabeled gear
one (I cant remember which) had completely fake anadrol and strango had test prop labelled as masteron prop
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Stick with the basics..... test, deca, tren, dbol
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Hell, maybe that's why people are getting such good gains with Mast. It's got damn Trenbolone.
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I wish they would make the UGL name searchable. Talk about pwning.
You can see what most of them are though. The silver labels are Signature pharma (apparently a crapshoot), theres red square, also shitty, alpha pharma amps which tested well, and some rohm orals, which tested well
that one supposed ephedrine/caffeine cap that tested positive for cocaine tho, fucking hell
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I feel sorry for the 90lb bikini chick who bought anavar and got 25mg tabs of superdrol...For god's sake rofl.
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what have I been telling you people????
lol
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well i have been saying this for years and years but ppl dont wanna have none of it.
there you go.
how i knew,well i seen lab results with my own eyes thats how.lol
and yes "big" name brands.
wouldnt suprise me if some ugls put bit test into everything.
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Why do you suppose Tren is being substituted for everything from test to mast? Is it that cheap to make or are UG's just trying to make their product seem more potent?
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wish you could just buy legit pharm test in the internet shops
but it can be total bunk
might as well buy UGL
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Why do you suppose Tren is being substituted for everything from test to mast? Is it that cheap to make or are UG's just trying to make their product seem more potent?
hm nobody said any such bro
i see you mean the link in the second post, but i dont understand that minor major results difference ???
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hm nobody said any such bro
i see you mean the link in the second post, but i dont understand that minor major results difference ???
Yes from the link. I scrolled through all 10 or 12 pages and found numerous steroids labeled test or mast but found to be tren.
I just found that surprising.
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You can see what most of them are though. The silver labels are Signature pharma (apparently a crapshoot), theres red square, also shitty, alpha pharma amps which tested well, and some rohm orals, which tested well
that one supposed ephedrine/caffeine cap that tested positive for cocaine tho, fucking hell
Saw those. Any tests on Geneza products? (crosses fingers)
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Saw those. Any tests on Geneza products? (crosses fingers)
Geneza has been tested over on Meso. Geneza's Test C, Bold, Winny, Var, and Primo passed. The Deca and Mast P failed.
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Saw those. Any tests on Geneza products? (crosses fingers)
Do a lot of the lads on this board buy off naps? That kinda suprises me
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Geneza has been tested over on Meso. Geneza's Test C, Bold, Winny, Var, and Primo passed. The Deca and Mast P failed.
really? I just bought some mast. What was in the mast?
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Do a lot of the lads on this board buy off naps? That kinda suprises me
It seems that way...
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really? I just bought some mast. What was in the mast?
There was three test done and under UV light the Mast P is supposed to show a good deep orange color, yet the Geneza's was very light and looked similar to Nandrolone PhenylPropriate. There is some disagreement on it, but most of the members are sure it is NPP and if it is Masteron P, then the concentration of it is low.
Geneza products have been hit and missed ever since Naps got bigger and started carrying different products. I remember when they carried only Geneza.
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There was three test done and under UV light the Mast P is supposed to show a good deep orange color, yet the Geneza's was very light and looked similar to Nandrolone PhenylPropriate. There is some disagreement on it, but most of the members are sure it is NPP and if it is Masteron P, then the concentration of it is low.
Geneza products have been hit and missed ever since Naps got bigger and started carrying different products. I remember when they carried only Geneza.
Ahhh.... Honestly at this point I really wouldn't give a shit if it WAS NPP. It's not like I'm getting ready for a contest or anything.
I think I'm going to buy a couple of the test kits and test the Geneza stuff I'm getting... put the results up here.
I picked up some Geneza Primo, Mast P, and Test P
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Ahhh.... Honestly at this point I really wouldn't give a shit if it WAS NPP. It's not like I'm getting ready for a contest or anything.
I think I'm going to buy a couple of the test kits and test the Geneza stuff I'm getting... put the results up here.
I picked up some Geneza Primo, Mast P, and Test P
There is way better UGL's available other than Geneza. If you need any guidance, I would be willing to assist you.
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Why do you suppose Tren is being substituted for everything from test to mast? Is it that cheap to make or are UG's just trying to make their product seem more potent?
imo, either sources adding more potent compounds to less potent compounds to build up a rep, or, more likely, cross contamination through bad brewing practice
either way, not really reassuring
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Ahhh.... Honestly at this point I really wouldn't give a shit if it WAS NPP. It's not like I'm getting ready for a contest or anything.
I think I'm going to buy a couple of the test kits and test the Geneza stuff I'm getting... put the results up here.
I picked up some Geneza Primo, Mast P, and Test P
I have some GP test e.
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There is way better UGL's available other than Geneza. If you need any guidance, I would be willing to assist you.
Hopefully you'll understand that I'm a little skeptical of a guy with so few posts.....
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There is way better UGL's available other than Geneza. If you need any guidance, I would be willing to assist you.
Get ready for an inbox full of PMs lol
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Get ready for an inbox full of PMs lol
I don't care to help out as long as no one gets scammed or uses bogus crap.
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The wedinos site is epic
I assume when you talk about labmax you mean the thread on AB?
what was awesome as fuck was 2 gh15 sources being called out for fake/mislabeled gear
one (I cant remember which) had completely fake anadrol and strango had test prop labelled as masteron prop
I warned you guys about that strango dude. He sells some brutally painfull gear as well as misslabled gear. warned everybody about Gh15. he was just boosting these sources to get free shit and gets payment from these sources.
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You can see what most of them are though. The silver labels are Signature pharma (apparently a crapshoot), theres red square, also shitty, alpha pharma amps which tested well, and some rohm orals, which tested well
that one supposed ephedrine/caffeine cap that tested positive for cocaine tho, fucking hell
I told you guys for years alpha-pharma was good gear,the german remedies Testoviron are good legit human grade amps,trenax is good tren, especially back a few years ago when Em was selling it. I don;t trust alpha-pharma suppliers as much anymore. EM had the real deal Alpha-Pharma products. euroman and I both get all the products tested back in 2006. This was all from EM and all of it is 100% legit it is a old picture talken in 2011 before EM got in trouble. I have posts going back from 2006 talking about how alpha-pharma is legit however with success comes knock-offs so be careful. Like i said i don;t trust any of the guys selling Alpha-pharma anymore.
as far as guys counterfeiting s steroid with tren. why not? if they have the powder on hand even if they just get 40$ a amp and sell it as Test guys will gain off it and think it is legit.. Some guys don't care if they get misslabled product,they just care they got something with hormones in it. This shit has been going on forever! All the organon stuff except the infar organon sust is not authentic! they are all counterfeit but probably do contain some kind of active steroid in the amp,usually Test E or prop. alot of norma amps are counterfeit,Omnadren amps are couterfeited, everything that has once been a hit is now counterfeit!The amps probably have some AAS in them but you never know for sure what you are shooting.
With Alpha-pharma back when I used to buy it all of it was legit product. all amps were legit. I have always been scared to buy UGL gear since the big labs like QV,Ttokyo,Denkell went down. It also sucks they don;t have a lab like SRCS where you could send your gear in and pay to get it tested,then invest money once you find out everything is what it is labelled as. Guys in the UGL biz don't give a fuck! They are in it for money. They don;t feel bad if they give you tren instead of masteron in their minds they think they are doing you a favor for selling you something stronger.
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I told you guys for years alpha-pharma was good gear,the german remedies Testoviron are good legit human grade amps,trenax is good tren, especially back a few years ago when Em was selling it. I don;t trust alpha-pharma suppliers as much anymore. EM had the real deal Alpha-Pharma products. euroman and I both get all the products tested back in 2006. This was all from EM and all of it is 100% legit it is a old picture talken in 2011 before EM got in trouble. I have posts going back from 2006 talking about how alpha-pharma is legit however with success comes knock-offs so be careful. Like i said i don;t trust any of the guys selling Alpha-pharma anymore.
as far as guys counterfeiting s steroid with tren. why not? if they have the powder on hand even if they just get 40$ a amp and sell it as Test guys will gain off it and think it is legit.. Some guys don't care if they get misslabled product,they just care they got something with hormones in it. This shit has been going on forever! All the organon stuff except the infar organon sust is not authentic! they are all counterfeit but probably do contain some kind of active steroid in the amp,usually Test E or prop. alot of norma amps are counterfeit,Omnadren amps are couterfeited, everything that has once been a hit is now counterfeit!The amps probably have some AAS in them but you never know for sure what you are shooting.
With Alpha-pharma back when I used to buy it all of it was legit product. all amps were legit. I have always been scared to buy UGL gear since the big labs like QV,Ttokyo,Denkell went down. It also sucks they don;t have a lab like SRCS where you could send your gear in and pay to get it tested,then invest money once you find out everything is what it is labelled as. Guys in the UGL biz don't give a fuck! They are in it for money. They don;t feel bad if they give you tren instead of masteron in their minds they think they are doing you a favor for selling you something stronger.
I do miss EM. Sad day when he left the game. And I fucking love the pic you posted. It is so beautiful.
I never got to try out Jinan Trenax but I only heard positive reviews.
You are right about the Alpha Pharma. It's hard to trust anyone now (other than EM) who sales Alpha Pharma. I heard there has been some fakes of Alpha Pharma that has hit the market in the past year.
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I do miss EM. Sad day when he left the game. And I fucking love the pic you posted. It is so beautiful.
I never got to try out Jinan Trenax but I only heard positive reviews.
You are right about the Alpha Pharma. It's hard to trust anyone now (other than EM) who sales Alpha Pharma. I heard there has been some fakes of Alpha Pharma that has hit the market in the past year.
Theres two british sources I can think off off top (bf3 being one, british/Irish lads will know who that is) who still sell genuine AP
I'm Irish, and I'm kinda starting to understand how much easier I have it than American users. You guys get shafted when it comes to good sources and prices. Using steroids isn't even illegal here lol
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Theres two british sources I can think off off top (bf3 being one, british/Irish lads will know who that is) who still sell genuine AP
I'm Irish, and I'm kinda starting to understand how much easier I have it than American users. You guys get shafted when it comes to good sources and prices. Using steroids isn't even illegal here lol
clearskypharmacy has some of Alpha Pharma's PCT and Clen/T3 but I have yet to find a USA based source who has Alpha Pharma.
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I do miss EM. Sad day when he left the game. And I fucking love the pic you posted. It is so beautiful.
I never got to try out Jinan Trenax but I only heard positive reviews.
You are right about the Alpha Pharma. It's hard to trust anyone now (other than EM) who sales Alpha Pharma. I heard there has been some fakes of Alpha Pharma that has hit the market in the past year.
I knew Em when he just had a email and way before alpha-pharma even came out. I was the first guy in the USA to get the first batch of Alpha-pharma gear, back then it was all 100% authentic and always was when it came from EM. EM also had great bulk prices. All EM's gear was the REAL DEAL! I honestly hate buying UGL Gear from cheap UGL labs. EM always got the best stuff it was a very shitty day when he left the game. EM was the only guy I trusted to wire thousands of dollars to. EM also trusted me and anything I wanted he would send. I don't trust anybody anymore! not very many guys like EM around ever. Those were the good days before Operation raw deal. For those guys who have been around back before operation gear grinder and operation raw deal it was a way better climate for buying steroids. QV,Ttokyo,Brovel,Denkell, Animal power pretty much were the brands that were the most popular because there were USA domestic sources for this good(correctly dosed) mexican gear and it was cheap.
then if you didn't mind customs you could get human grade from EM who had real british dispensary anabol tabs 1,000ct sealed bottles, sealed bottles of androlic, sealed bottles of stanazolol, REAL Organon Infar sust blister sealed amps, REAL german remedies Testoviron blister sealed amps,every single kind of anchilery,T3,T4 eventually Alpha-pharmas line-up and at the end he had some potent AP HGH that was on par with genotropin and serostim for 300$ a kit cheaper in bulk. hard to fuck with his list.
The first Tests done 3rd party I did at SRCS and everything was on point. a few years later llwellyn tested AP's gear and broke it down even further to test the raw material used and it was made with 99% pure and tested 1mg lower then advertised. It was great when you got it from EM who was the real main source. Now it is counterfeited or it is overpriced.EM always sent the original packaging as well even if you bought a 1,000ct bottle of anabol he would send the sealed bottle if you wanted it sent that way. Great guy.
Then Gh15 started referring all this wack shit like kigtropin and strangos gear. strangos gear is somewhat hype. I think some of his products are ok but like people say some are misslabled and I have had batches that were way to painfull and people got huge swelling and knots. I have gotten alot of complaints from members who also secretly told me they had a problem with a product as well but everytime any of us put it up on anabolic board or any of the boards he sourced on we got banned instantly.
strango would give the mods free gear so they felt they must ban anybody who had anything bad to say even though it was true. The guy is a fucking liar. That stuff is not made in a privately owned pharmacy his parents own where they also have a compounding area in the pharmacy all that is bullshit. He makes that shit in his basement or kitchen or out back in a shed. There is no way that guy can fill all those orders he must of picked up somebody who knew jack shit about brewing gear and fucked up batches that they still sold. This happens alot a source gets backed up takes in a friend they trust except the friend knows jack shit about brewing gear
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Do a lot of the lads on this board buy off naps? That kinda suprises me
naps is legit. he has been around for as long as I can remember. naps has always tried to carry good gear but what can he do when he gets shafted? He used to be a british dragon Rep and then after they shut-down he moved on to all the brands he has now wich he has alot of diffrent brands but I have know clue wich brand is better or if they all come from the same china chem wharehouse with diffrent labels. I will say if you order from naps you should get a pack. He is probably not as good as he used to be. naps also used to be a axio labs dealer and had both international and domestic services.
I think he tries his best and does send out everybodys gear but once it leaves his or his remailers hands it is uo to the postal services not naps. make sure you get a DC# and that way you always have proof what is up with your pack. no proof -no reship. once you get your gear who knows how great it will be it could be overdosed and you get what it is labelled as or it can be underdosed and might have the wrong compound in it. This is why we need another professional lab analysis place that will test our gear. losing SRCS really fucked the UGL market. Dealers wouldn;t take these risks back then because alot of people would test their gear when they got it especially guys who bought in bulk. If you buy a few thousand dollars in gear what is 100$ to get it tested especially if you are thinking about having a long term relationship with a source.
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strango also is a big seccurity risk since his ole woman used his old email to take some orders and not ship people their shit. ever since strngo went on gh155's board, his quality sunk faster than the titanic.
also, I remember EM back when he first came to OLM. He was always a pleasurre to deal with. gh15 really fcuked it up by trying to cause EM a lot of grief over nothing. EM was a golden source.
and yes, before ORD stuff was awesome. I used to use Morning Star gear and some of the vet gear. The vet gear had some strong pip to it, but it worked like no other.
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naps is legit. he has been around for as long as I can remember. naps has always tried to carry good gear but what can he do when he gets shafted? He used to be a british dragon Rep and then after they shut-down he moved on to all the brands he has now wich he has alot of diffrent brands but I have know clue wich brand is better or if they all come from the same china chem wharehouse with diffrent labels. I will say if you order from naps you should get a pack. He is probably not as good as he used to be. naps also used to be a axio labs dealer and had both international and domestic services.
I think he tries his best and does send out everybodys gear but once it leaves his or his remailers hands it is uo to the postal services not naps. make sure you get a DC# and that way you always have proof what is up with your pack. no proof -no reship. once you get your gear who knows how great it will be it could be overdosed and you get what it is labelled as or it can be underdosed and might have the wrong compound in it. This is why we need another professional lab analysis place that will test our gear. losing SRCS really fucked the UGL market. Dealers wouldn;t take these risks back then because alot of people would test their gear when they got it especially guys who bought in bulk. If you buy a few thousand dollars in gear what is 100$ to get it tested especially if you are thinking about having a long term relationship with a source.
Naps went thru a new owner a few years ago and got a completely new staff. This was announced over on OLM about 2-3 years ago. He's probably one of the more reliable international sources there is.
Back when he only carried Geneza was when he was at his best. At least in my opinion.
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naps is legit. he has been around for as long as I can remember. naps has always tried to carry good gear but what can he do when he gets shafted? He used to be a british dragon Rep and then after they shut-down he moved on to all the brands he has now wich he has alot of diffrent brands but I have know clue wich brand is better or if they all come from the same china chem wharehouse with diffrent labels. I will say if you order from naps you should get a pack. He is probably not as good as he used to be. naps also used to be a axio labs dealer and had both international and domestic services.
I think he tries his best and does send out everybodys gear but once it leaves his or his remailers hands it is uo to the postal services not naps. make sure you get a DC# and that way you always have proof what is up with your pack. no proof -no reship. once you get your gear who knows how great it will be it could be overdosed and you get what it is labelled as or it can be underdosed and might have the wrong compound in it. This is why we need another professional lab analysis place that will test our gear. losing SRCS really fucked the UGL market. Dealers wouldn;t take these risks back then because alot of people would test their gear when they got it especially guys who bought in bulk. If you buy a few thousand dollars in gear what is 100$ to get it tested especially if you are thinking about having a long term relationship with a source.
Maybe it's because I'm EU so kinda spoiled for sources, but I hear of a couple people getting burned/not receiving their shit, or any bunk gear, then that source is dead to me, they a bad source, and there's others who would be more than happy to take my money
Like that one UK source, the main wildcat dude. Great gear, huge selection of pharma gear, best ugls, everything you could want, cheap too, but the dude is an asshole. He's a crazy rambling fuck and takes far too long to send stuff, why deal with that when theres another source that has the same gear
Even on my 'home board' theres so many people brewing their own gear, or living in places like egypt or serbia, where they can just buy the stuff in the pharmacy, selling the stuff there on the board, cheaper than any source, and I know where the raws are coming from, who's brewing it, all that
Buyers market man
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strango also is a big seccurity risk since his ole woman used his old email to take some orders and not ship people their shit. ever since strngo went on gh155's board, his quality sunk faster than the titanic.
also, I remember EM back when he first came to OLM. He was always a pleasurre to deal with. gh15 really fcuked it up by trying to cause EM a lot of grief over nothing. EM was a golden source.
and yes, before ORD stuff was awesome. I used to use Morning Star gear and some of the vet gear. The vet gear had some strong pip to it, but it worked like no other.
yeah I took a nasty loss in that whole deal with his old lady. I always thought he was stand up (slow, but stand up), but after I sent funds that she apparently got I had to seek out his new email address and then he wouldn't replace my order. I had ordered a lot from him almost monthly and he tried to act like he didn't know who I was.
Price you pay to play I suppose
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strango also is a big seccurity risk since his ole woman used his old email to take some orders and not ship people their shit. ever since strngo went on gh155's board, his quality sunk faster than the titanic.
also, I remember EM back when he first came to OLM. He was always a pleasurre to deal with. gh15 really fcuked it up by trying to cause EM a lot of grief over nothing. EM was a golden source.
and yes, before ORD stuff was awesome. I used to use Morning Star gear and some of the vet gear. The vet gear had some strong pip to it, but it worked like no other.
I have used to grab some morning star labs gear. that guy had great service. he only did overnight packages so soon as you gave him the WU/swiftpay info the pack was on the way and was usually at the door within hours . He dosed his test really high though and had painful sust-450. he had pretty strong tren and EQ. His tren would give you that Tren cough and that Trenbolone aggression,Trensomnia. dude got busted when operation raw deal hit.
Yes Gh15 did not like EM because he had good gear and he hated the fact I always referred people to EM. Gh15 liked AP gear and I found a old post that said he liked AP gear then I posted that up and he bout shit his pants. always talking shit about EM when the guy liked his products. EM could be slow sometimes but that was mainly due to customs or guys he used the airmail route instead of express mail. Gh15 would refer the shittiest sources. Gh15 would talk up a certain product like primo acetate and primo enanthate and talk about how magical the shit was and the next day it would be on strangos list for 120$ for a 10ml vial. shit was riduculous. Gh15 was def getting money or free gear or had something to do with that operation. everytime Gh15 talked up a product it would show up on strangos list the next update list. All that bunk kigtropin the guy was one nutty piece of shit! I bet he set-up EM somehow.
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yeah I took a nasty loss in that whole deal with his old lady. I always thought he was stand up (slow, but stand up), but after I sent funds that she apparently got I had to seek out his new email address and then he wouldn't replace my order. I had ordered a lot from him almost monthly and he tried to act like he didn't know who I was.
Price you pay to play I suppose
I never heard about all this drama with his old lady. what happened? Hhow much did he owe people? Did he pay people back or just tell them it was part of the game? How does anybody know it is true? Strango is a fucking liar! He told me his parents owned a private pharmacy and he would compound and brew his gear there when it was closed at night. total bullshit story. When I used him it was before the Gh15 board was up and he had very fast service but he is sketchy,he made me wire money to china and when I checked online to make sure the transaction was ready for pickup it said it wasn't. I sent it at a store and when I called WU they said the guy in china was on a government watch list and asked me if I still wanted to release the fund to him. since it was under 1,000$ and wasn;t sent under my name I said yes and they did instantly make it ready for pick-up but strango must of had alot of people sending this guy suspicious amounts of money,if strango ever used his own name and transfered alot of $ for raws he is probably def being watched.
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yeah I took a nasty loss in that whole deal with his old lady. I always thought he was stand up (slow, but stand up), but after I sent funds that she apparently got I had to seek out his new email address and then he wouldn't replace my order. I had ordered a lot from him almost monthly and he tried to act like he didn't know who I was.
Price you pay to play I suppose
not really! If you found his new email and had proof he should replace your order. what a piece of shit! I only used strango a few times but he sent the shit right away. Once their was a mistake and he made up for it big time! Not the best products but the dude seemed stand-up. always fast but this was before the Gh15 board and before he went back on anabolic board for a week or two. This was when he was off all boards and private. I have heard from a number of people his gear turned to shit.
It was after I posted a thread here saying how his test e was so fucking painfull and cause swelling. I tried to post this on AB and they banned me. I posted it here and I got a flow of PM's saying they had the same issues but they were all to scarred to say anything to strango or post anything online. I don't give a fuck I told strango the stuff was shit! I posted that it was shit on AB got banned posted it here a few times or anytime I here strango I will tell you my experience and I don"t lie about shit.
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I never heard about all this drama with his old lady. what happened? Hhow much did he owe people? Did he pay people back or just tell them it was part of the game? How does anybody know it is true? Strango is a fucking liar! He told me his parents owned a private pharmacy and he would compound and brew his gear there when it was closed at night. total bullshit story. When I used him it was before the Gh15 board was up and he had very fast service but he is sketchy,he made me wire money to china and when I checked online to make sure the transaction was ready for pickup it said it wasn't. I sent it at a store and when I called WU they said the guy in china was on a government watch list and asked me if I still wanted to release the fund to him. since it was under 1,000$ and wasn;t sent under my name I said yes and they did instantly make it ready for pick-up but strango must of had alot of people sending this guy suspicious amounts of money,if strango ever used his own name and transfered alot of $ for raws he is probably def being watched.
damn bro, you've been out of the loop to long. I'll tell you the storrry.
A few months back, a few people started complaining about Strango's service and products on ALL the boards, including gh15's. Well, strango makes a post saying he is going through some personal issues and that he will be back better than ever if people just work with him and give him time. Shitty service continues and then all of a sudden Strango says that he is taking a break and closing down. Well he then announces that him and his ole woman has split up and that she has been using his email to take orders and not mail things out. He tells everyone not to use that email and makes a new one for people to use and contact him. A lot of people got burnt by his woman and he refused to give the money or products to the scammed members unless they were well known on the boards.
It was a big clusterfuck and after a while, Strango refused to refund members who talked bad about his service saying that it isn't his fault that it happened.
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damn bro, you've been out of the loop to long. I'll tell you the storrry.
A few months back, a few people started complaining about Strango's service and products on ALL the boards, including gh15's. Well, strango makes a post saying he is going through some personal issues and that he will be back better than ever if people just work with him and give him time. Shitty service continues and then all of a sudden Strango says that he is taking a break and closing down. Well he then announces that him and his ole woman has split up and that she has been using his email to take orders and not mail things out. He tells everyone not to use that email and makes a new one for people to use and contact him. A lot of people got burnt by his woman and he refused to give the money or products to the scammed members unless they were well known on the boards.
It was a big clusterfuck and after a while, Strango refused to refund members who talked bad about his service saying that it isn't his fault that it happened.
fuck that-a good source would refund everybody who paid. The guy is not poor. It is so cheap to brew your own gear so this sounds like a excuse. Who knows if what he is saying is even true. They must of paid with one of those cards you load money on. I hate sources who treat some members better then others.It shouldn;t matter if they are a established customer. If you pay for a service and the dude didn"t get busted he is a peice of shit if he does not pay you back. It is not like strango is a new source. The guy has been doing this for years consistently and has money. what a nutty guy that strango is.I told everybody to watch out for those Gh15 sources.
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Anyone using that ultra-vet line over at ab?
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Anyone using that ultra-vet line over at ab?
I got in with Univet right when they came out in 05. The guy who helped launch univet was a oldschool big QV/mex gear dealer. I am not sure he is still involved with the lab but when he was back in 2005 Univet was decent gear. I know it was around last year not sure it is still on the market. Never tried ultra-vet though
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Brew your own!
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Brew your own!
fuck that! just go get it prescribed. You will probably ony get prescribed a 10ml vial and the directions will say one shot per week but you can use more if you want epecially if the doctor puts refills on it. They have refilled my vials after 20 days before just depends on the pharmacy. You don;t need to much Test. 400mg of USA Human grade test will cause nice anabolism. I don;t mind using UGL Tren so stack the Test with some Tren and maybe a oral like dbol or anadrol or anavar whatever oral treats you the best and you will have a nice little cycle there.
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fuck that! just go get it prescribed. You will probably ony get prescribed a 10ml vial and the directions will say one shot per week but you can use more if you want epecially if the doctor puts refills on it. They have refilled my vials after 20 days before just depends on the pharmacy. You don;t need to much Test. 400mg of USA Human grade test will cause nice anabolism. I don;t mind using UGL Tren so stack the Test with some Tren and maybe a oral like dbol or anadrol or anavar whatever oral treats you the best and you will have a nice little cycle there.
Whitewidow, are you against home brewing? If so, I'm curious to hear your opinion why.
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Whitewidow, are you against home brewing? If so, I'm curious to hear your opinion why.
I am not WW, but there are a lot of variables in brewing your own gear. Some of the equipment involved in accurately homebrewing can be tracket and is watched (due to the rise in meth labs, etc). Also, most of the powder suppliers are overseas and you have to deal with customs. If you are caught with powders, the feds are more likely to go after you due to your intent to distribute and not pay taxes.
Also, it is hard to trust that the powders are what they are due to the fact that all the testing places before ORD have been shut down.
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Whitewidow, are you against home brewing? If so, I'm curious to hear your opinion why.
Well alot of people think it is so easy but it really isn't as easy as it sounds. Another reason why like nighttrain said is you cannot really trsut all the raw materials coming out of china. The reason why is we no longer have SRCS where we can send in a gram of powder and get the exact potentcy percentage of the powder. You can never take a chinas sources word for how potent there powders are(they will always ay they are very high quality) They are trying to make money. All the really good powder sources you will not find on a open source board most of them are private or you have to have somebody refer you to a good legit powder supplier even then where would you get it 3rd party tested without SRCS?
Now if you knew what you were doing and had some chemistry backround and had a great powder source where they had kilos for cheap and could get the powder tested by a 3rd party legit chemical service and the powders turned out 98% or better I would say go ahead and start brewing but no way anybody could find a good legit 3rd party chem service to test the powders till then I woudn't suggest home bewing any gear.
You would also have to have the final vials tested by a chemical service to see how on point you got the dosage. more of a pain in the ass then you think,also like night train said some of the equipment needed cannot be bought without some kind of LE watching especially tab pressing machines. You could probably buy a used tab pressing machine but not a brand new one.
I just think it is not impossible to see a internal medicine doctor and get a legal prescription but just make sure you are not waiting all day. ;D
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I warned you guys about that strango dude. He sells some brutally painfull gear as well as misslabled gear. warned everybody about Gh15. he was just boosting these sources to get free shit and gets payment from these sources.
Strango is shit.yes I fell for the b.s.learned my lesson.his gear is bull shut.many , many better labs.and by the way f.u.GH 15 ill give someone a chance and the benefit of the doubt but after you leave no doubt i say like it is and Gh15 is a scam and not who he makes you beliebe he is.
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Question about quality labs... Anyone here used Biomed before? Any input on quality? Canadian lab.
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the answer is you dont know unless you test it.
ironicaly this is kinda thread about testing kit, so yeah,get one.
whats worth the opinion from someone else on the internet?exactly, fuck all
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yeah I took a nasty loss in that whole deal with his old lady. I always thought he was stand up (slow, but stand up), but after I sent funds that she apparently got I had to seek out his new email address and then he wouldn't replace my order. I had ordered a lot from him almost monthly and he tried to act like he didn't know who I was.
Price you pay to play I suppose
I dont usually get involved in this he said she said bull but this post is a straight up lie. The email strango is currently using has been in use since before he had issues with his girl. Not only did he make shit right for the people that got boned in that situation but myself and many others got additional product on top of what we ordered simply due to the inconvienence. As for your comment about him being slow... Has one of the fastest TA's I have every experienced.
That isnt the first time he has done right by me either. Awhile back I sent funds and he made a mistake, forgot to send out my package. I waited patiently for a few weeks and then I hit him up. I got double the product. Wasnt a dinky little order either.
I dont even use him anymore because I have found more cost effective sources for myself but I think its hilarious that people get so caught up in bashing sources simply because they dont like GH15 or they want to fit in with the cool kids who bash him so they make up the most pathetic lies.
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I dont usually get involved in this he said she said bull but this post is a straight up lie. The email strango is currently using has been in use since before he had issues with his girl. Not only did he make shit right for the people that got boned in that situation but myself and many others got additional product on top of what we ordered simply due to the inconvienence. As for your comment about him being slow... Has one of the fastest TA's I have every experienced.
That isnt the first time he has done right by me either. Awhile back I sent funds and he made a mistake, forgot to send out my package. I waited patiently for a few weeks and then I hit him up. I got double the product. Wasnt a dinky little order either.
I dont even use him anymore because I have found more cost effective sources for myself but I think its hilarious that people get so caught up in bashing sources simply because they dont like GH15 or they want to fit in with the cool kids who bash him so they make up the most pathetic lies.
I never said he was a slow source. I used him a few times and my packs got shipped the next day. he also fucked up on one of my packs and sent my a whole bunch of free shit. This is when he was private. strango charges more then Human grade gear costs, plus some of his products are real hit and miss and one time they are Ok next time they are too painfull to inject. Once he went out from private and put his list back up on AB for a few weeks and Gh15's board he got swamped and got in over his head and then the quality went downhill. Not alot of people speak out if they get a bad product. I did it on AB and got banned for telling the truth.
Then all of a sudden I get all these Pm's from other people complaining about alot of products that were painfull or just didn"t work. I think when he was private maybe the gear wasn't anything psecial but he did ship it real fast and make up for any mistakes with lots of extras but maybe that is because my order ws bigger then most peoples. Some sources do look after there first clients or the big buyers before they take care of the smaller buyer wich isn"t fair. It's a service. you pay and you expect a product no matter how much you paid. everybody should get the same service.
I have seen this before a source gets backed up and takes care of their top customers and guys with big orders and the smaller buyers wait for months because the source dosn;t give a fuck if you ever buy again. They look at it like a order they should of never took from a member they have never dealt with, but they still have to deal with them and make the shit right if they took money.
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not really! If you found his new email and had proof he should replace your order. what a piece of shit! I only used strango a few times but he sent the shit right away. Once their was a mistake and he made up for it big time! Not the best products but the dude seemed stand-up. always fast but this was before the Gh15 board and before he went back on anabolic board for a week or two. This was when he was off all boards and private. I have heard from a number of people his gear turned to shit.
It was after I posted a thread here saying how his test e was so fucking painfull and cause swelling. I tried to post this on AB and they banned me. I posted it here and I got a flow of PM's saying they had the same issues but they were all to scarred to say anything to strango or post anything online. I don't give a fuck I told strango the stuff was shit! I posted that it was shit on AB got banned posted it here a few times or anytime I here strango I will tell you my experience and I don"t lie about shit.
Shit..fuck me. I have some test E of his from that time period (when had just hopped on AB but wasn't on gh15's board). Have yet to touch it though...not sure if I want to now. :-\
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Well alot of people think it is so easy but it really isn't as easy as it sounds. Another reason why like nighttrain said is you cannot really trsut all the raw materials coming out of china. The reason why is we no longer have SRCS where we can send in a gram of powder and get the exact potentcy percentage of the powder. You can never take a chinas sources word for how potent there powders are(they will always ay they are very high quality) They are trying to make money. All the really good powder sources you will not find on a open source board most of them are private or you have to have somebody refer you to a good legit powder supplier even then where would you get it 3rd party tested without SRCS?
Now if you knew what you were doing and had some chemistry backround and had a great powder source where they had kilos for cheap and could get the powder tested by a 3rd party legit chemical service and the powders turned out 98% or better I would say go ahead and start brewing but no way anybody could find a good legit 3rd party chem service to test the powders till then I woudn't suggest home bewing any gear.
You would also have to have the final vials tested by a chemical service to see how on point you got the dosage. more of a pain in the ass then you think,also like night train said some of the equipment needed cannot be bought without some kind of LE watching especially tab pressing machines. You could probably buy a used tab pressing machine but not a brand new one.
I just think it is not impossible to see a internal medicine doctor and get a legal prescription but just make sure you are not waiting all day. ;D
closing SRCS was the most idiotic thing the DEA could have done, all it does is increase the spread of tainted fake drugs. Of course these same people actually WANT people to get sick if they use illegal drugs, but that's another thread.
there are other places you can get mass spectrometry assays (US customs being one of them, lol)
china is not the bad guy here, it's the turdbags running UGs who want to turn a quick buck
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trusting raws and raw suppliers are NO FUCKING DIFFERENT from trusting ANY other UGL supplier.
where the fuck do you guys think ugls get their Raws?
'oh, I wouldn't trust buying raws from china... but i'll endorese geneza/gen-shi,scrioxx, ect... all day long. their stuff is top notch' blah blah blah.... where exactly do you think ugls get their stuff?
and how do you test and verify any other PED? you have a couple choices... the most obvious being 'ask around on the internet message boards' and try to compile unbiased opinions... same as we've been doing since '97.
the PED business is just like any other business. some of us are honest and believe in producing products with the proper ingredients and in the proper dosages, and some don't..... but we all want to make money. usually those of us who produce proper products have a long term business model, we'll take a 10x average margin for a decade as opposed to a 20x profit margin for 'as long as we can get away with it'. even with using the properly listed chems at the proper dosages, there's plenty of money to be made.
there's a ton of shit a ugl could do and 99% of their customers wouldn't know the difference. they can sell...
35mg/ml tren e as 100mg/ml masteron enan, both cost the same per gram, but in doing so they'll make an extra 66%.
they can sell 10mg winstrol as 10mg anavar. anavar costs about 4x more per gram
they can sell 5mg dbol as var. again, var costs about 4x more per gram
they can sell 100mg/ml test as 200mg/ml deca. test is a lil cheaper than deca, so they'll make an extra 60+% in using test
they can sell 25mg/ml oral dbol as 50mg/ml oral drol. they cost the same per gram, but they're selling 750mg for the cost of 1500mg per 30ml bottle
.... I could go on and on and on with this shit, but eventually they guys who do this will ALWAYS get caught and go out of business, or they'll fuck up some other way (in life, in general, due to their complete lack of forethought in general... just look at MPResearch as an example, getting busted for identity theft... or get busted for rec drugs or OD and die. that's the type of person who underdoses/mislabels products... people with zero business sense or experience. I know crack dealers.. CRACK dealers.. not even coke dealers (that'd be a step up!), who are better businessmen then some of these UGL's.
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closing SRCS was the most idiotic thing the DEA could have done, all it does is increase the spread of tainted fake drugs. Of course these same people actually WANT people to get sick if they use illegal drugs, but that's another thread.
there are other places you can get mass spectrometry assays (US customs being one of them, lol)
china is not the bad guy here, it's the turdbags running UGs who want to turn a quick buck
China's not the bad guy here? U sure. Then why is it I have multiple differarnt powder sources I've tried all from trusted so called trust boards for powder and then random powder sources I found on Alibaba whatever how many years trusted gold suppliers . Having all of there anavar come back as winny bad deca. But oh the dbol atleast was real from all the people lol.
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But I do have one powder guy I got little five gram this ten gram.that n everything so far from him been good. Deca pass. Tbol. Pass. Even superdrol pass.
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But I do have one powder guy I got little five gram this ten gram.that n everything so far from him been good. Deca pass. Tbol. Pass. Even superdrol pass.
I know who that is. he makes good enough margin by doing those small orders that there's no real need to rip ppl off.
shit... that gives me an idea. lol
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I never said he was a slow source. I used him a few times and my packs got shipped the next day. he also fucked up on one of my packs and sent my a whole bunch of free shit. This is when he was private. strango charges more then Human grade gear costs, plus some of his products are real hit and miss and one time they are Ok next time they are too painfull to inject. Once he went out from private and put his list back up on AB for a few weeks and Gh15's board he got swamped and got in over his head and then the quality went downhill. Not alot of people speak out if they get a bad product. I did it on AB and got banned for telling the truth.
Then all of a sudden I get all these Pm's from other people complaining about alot of products that were painfull or just didn"t work. I think when he was private maybe the gear wasn't anything psecial but he did ship it real fast and make up for any mistakes with lots of extras but maybe that is because my order ws bigger then most peoples. Some sources do look after there first clients or the big buyers before they take care of the smaller buyer wich isn"t fair. It's a service. you pay and you expect a product no matter how much you paid. everybody should get the same service.
I have seen this before a source gets backed up and takes care of their top customers and guys with big orders and the smaller buyers wait for months because the source dosn;t give a fuck if you ever buy again. They look at it like a order they should of never took from a member they have never dealt with, but they still have to deal with them and make the shit right if they took money.
I didnt quote you, so I wasnt responding to you... so I didnt say you said he was a slow source.
I always got the same quality service as everyone else and my orders rarely exceeded the minimum requirement. Though I dont really have any kind of issue with what you just posted, sounds like a personal experience and you give both the good and the bad.
Reason I quoted the above poster was because it sounded like a straight up lie trying to fit in with everyone else bashing on Strango.
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trusting raws and raw suppliers are NO FUCKING DIFFERENT from trusting ANY other UGL supplier.
where the fuck do you guys think ugls get their Raws?
'oh, I wouldn't trust buying raws from china... but i'll endorese geneza/gen-shi,scrioxx, ect... all day long. their stuff is top notch' blah blah blah.... where exactly do you think ugls get their stuff?
and how do you test and verify any other PED? you have a couple choices... the most obvious being 'ask around on the internet message boards' and try to compile unbiased opinions... same as we've been doing since '97.
the PED business is just like any other business. some of us are honest and believe in producing products with the proper ingredients and in the proper dosages, and some don't..... but we all want to make money. usually those of us who produce proper products have a long term business model, we'll take a 10x average margin for a decade as opposed to a 20x profit margin for 'as long as we can get away with it'. even with using the properly listed chems at the proper dosages, there's plenty of money to be made.
there's a ton of shit a ugl could do and 99% of their customers wouldn't know the difference. they can sell...
35mg/ml tren e as 100mg/ml masteron enan, both cost the same per gram, but in doing so they'll make an extra 66%.
they can sell 10mg winstrol as 10mg anavar. anavar costs about 4x more per gram
they can sell 5mg dbol as var. again, var costs about 4x more per gram
they can sell 100mg/ml test as 200mg/ml deca. test is a lil cheaper than deca, so they'll make an extra 60+% in using test
they can sell 25mg/ml oral dbol as 50mg/ml oral drol. they cost the same per gram, but they're selling 750mg for the cost of 1500mg per 30ml bottle
.... I could go on and on and on with this shit, but eventually they guys who do this will ALWAYS get caught and go out of business, or they'll fuck up some other way (in life, in general, due to their complete lack of forethought in general... just look at MPResearch as an example, getting busted for identity theft... or get busted for rec drugs or OD and die. that's the type of person who underdoses/mislabels products... people with zero business sense or experience. I know crack dealers.. CRACK dealers.. not even coke dealers (that'd be a step up!), who are better businessmen then some of these UGL's.
True to an extent. But when you are sitting in your own damn manufacturing facility like Naps is, you can easily test the powders for the purity and content before you start sending out batches that may be something else. That's the reason his Geneza line has always had great reviews.
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China's not the bad guy here? U sure. Then why is it I have multiple differarnt powder sources I've tried all from trusted so called trust boards for powder and then random powder sources I found on Alibaba whatever how many years trusted gold suppliers . Having all of there anavar come back as winny bad deca. But oh the dbol atleast was real from all the people lol.
Depends where you shop, my source has never sold anything less than 98% purity. The raws are cheap as shit for them to make, it's remailers and ugls who have the most profit to make from selling fakes
After ord took down my last guy I brought from a random on alibaba and Even though it was full of MDMA and DMSO and weed killer it was still 97% tren ace
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We need SRCS back! When SRCS was in business before raw deal you could send in powder and find out exactly if it was the hormone as listed and the exact %. It only costed 100$ too.
That is where Llwellyn sent all the gear back before raw deal then the DEA raided SRCS and got all the stteroid tests that had been done for just us independent buiyers and said they could no longer do test for just anybody just LE and diffrent pharmaceutical companys with licenses(no more outside testing for us guys). Not many UGl's or powder sources tried to get away with too much when SRCs was doing Tests for us.
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What about the link to that place on the first page of this thread. Is it reliable? How does it work? I have a bunch of loose shit laying around I would send in for testing just so everyone here could see the results.
But I see they are also receiving and testing cocaine. Not sure if I want to take a chance having a place like that with my info.
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Ok this ? is to everyone ,
What is your fav. Ugl, or brand you have cycled on, and did they job needed to do .??
I'm
Currently running British Dragon , although I have read a few things about the lab. But honestly I'm noticing great gains from it, as I'm on my cutting phase .
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Depends where you shop, my source has never sold anything less than 98% purity. The raws are cheap as shit for them to make, it's remailers and ugls who have the most profit to make from selling fakes
After ord took down my last guy I brought from a random on alibaba and Even though it was full of MDMA and DMSO and weed killer it was still 97% tren ace
Everyone who I.got off. Was raw manufactueres. No ugl bullshit. And they all to provided 98 percent purity papers. Doesn't mean when its time to ship out ur anavar there gonna send u anavar n send u real 98 percent winny instead...
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Ok this ? is to everyone ,
What is your fav. Ugl, or brand you have cycled on, and did they job needed to do .??
I'm
Currently running British Dragon , although I have read a few things about the lab. But honestly I'm noticing great gains from it, as I'm on my cutting phase .
You know, the best shit I ever used was this lab that only seemed to exist for a few months called candy top labs, which I think was one of the dudes who had something to do with veyron
maybe it's just nostalgia but that shit was strong as a guy
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maybe it's just nostalgia but that shit was strong as a guy
What the hell does that mean? Lol
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Ok this ? is to everyone ,
What is your fav. Ugl, or brand you have cycled on, and did they job needed to do .??
I'm
Currently running British Dragon , although I have read a few things about the lab. But honestly I'm noticing great gains from it, as I'm on my cutting phase .
It's knockoff british dragon made by a china chem/UGl lab dosn't mean bunk just not authentic. same lab that sold denkall Test 400 years after denkall was busted and all the existing vials were expired. The REAL British Dragon died out in 2006 then axio labs and balkan Pharm came out alin and genxxlgear were the ones behind british dragon.
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What about the link to that place on the first page of this thread. Is it reliable? How does it work? I have a bunch of loose shit laying around I would send in for testing just so everyone here could see the results.
But I see they are also receiving and testing cocaine. Not sure if I want to take a chance having a place like that with my info.
never used them but SRCS was legit and they tested all rec drugs too. alot of people sent in cocaine to srcs as well as gear along with meth,heroin. I would try to email llwellyn he would know how legit this place is.
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that link on page one is to a harm reduction project. Here in the US we don't believe in harm reduction, Republican Jesus and Nanny Democrat both agree that prohibition is the best approach and if someone gets hurt using something illegal then those creeps deserved it.
its also in Wales, so good luck using it for most of the people here.
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Everyone who I.got off. Was raw manufactueres. No ugl bullshit. And they all to provided 98 percent purity papers. Doesn't mean when its time to ship out ur anavar there gonna send u anavar n send u real 98 percent winny instead...
are you serious?
purity papaers?
haha
i can give you a paper saying you are the owner of new york city from today on.
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Yes if u read the post I quoted to you'd understand what I ment. I ment there all bullshit liars most of em. Not only send u cheaper product but all claim to be highest purity.
So who really knows if.its the ugl ripping u or China ripping them. I think there all ripping.off eachither. Why not that's business of 2000s right.
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man most in this thread must get there stuff from promuscle or have those nasty gh15 sources
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Yes if u read the post I quoted to you'd understand what I ment. I ment there all bullshit liars most of em. Not only send u cheaper product but all claim to be highest purity.
So who really knows if.its the ugl ripping u or China ripping them. I think there all ripping.off eachither. Why not that's business of 2000s right.
I don't think you understood me, you need to test the product yourself. Unless you have tested their prod cut in the past and are buying basic vanilla.. Ie test, deca, dbol etc. I test tren, var
Spend enough time on google and eventually you should find somewhere that does mass spectrometry for a price. Not cheap like srcs but worth doing considering how long a powder order should last
The place my friend uses has never tested less than claimed.
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Well I have some stuff laying around from various years that I would send it. A lot of Geneza (primo, tren, masteron, halo, proviron, andromix, var, aromasin, etc..), a good bit of EP, some old Thai Phoenix items, Nuvanna, Biomex, Scirroxx, even some old Dpharm stuff.
But I ain't gonna pay no shit load of money to have each one tested "just to see".
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Well I have some stuff laying around from various years that I would send it. A lot of Geneza (primo, tren, masteron, halo, proviron, andromix, var, aromasin, etc..), a good bit of EP, some old Thai Phoenix items, Nuvanna, Biomex, Scirroxx, even some old Dpharm stuff.
But I ain't gonna pay no shit load of money to have each one tested "just to see".
Damn! You still have some Dpharm gear? that must be way expired, same with thai pheonix.You must like to be stocked up but you seem overstocked. It never hurts to have extra PCt items but damn you have some old gear that should be used up. They would charge you at least 100$ to test every single product so your looking at a easy 1,000$ maybe more.
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From another board, all from the wedinos site
The Good - Analysis matches label
Alchemia Pharma Anavar - W000392
Alpha Pharma Induject (Sustanon) - 000031124
Alpha Pharma Masteron - W000104
Alpha Pharma Parabolin (Tren Hex) - W000101
Alpha Pharma Tren A - W000103
BSI Anavar - W000480
D-Hacks Anadrol - W000504
D-Hacks Anavar (?) - W000325
D-Hacks Cialis - W000507
D-Hacks Clenbuterol - W000500
D-Hacks Power Stack - W000505
D-Hacks T-Bol - W000503
Fuerza Deca 300 - W000271
Fuerza Test 400 C/E/P - W000270 & W000493
Global Solutions EQ - W000492 *** this is technically a miss since there's a minor match for "Boldenone" (no ester)
Global Solutions T-Bol - W000494
Isis Test P - W000335
JDL Arimidex - W000548
JDL Aromasin - W000352
JDL Nolvadex - W000353
Keifei Parabolin A - W000484
MSJ Ephedrine - W000422
Orbis Labs T-bol - W000384
Pro.chem T-Bol - W000350
Pro.chem Tren A - W000108
Red Star Tri Tren - 000026308
ROHM Anavar - W000085
ROHM Dianabol - W000385
SD Labs Dbol - W000386
Signature Pharma Nandrolone Deca - W000198
Signature Pharma Tren E - W000202
The Bad - Analysis does not match label
Alpha Pharma Sustanon - Test E - W000105
Apollo Sustanon - 5 Test esters, EQ - W000485
British Dragon Anavar - Nothing - 000030065
British Dragon Andropen Test Blend - EQ, Test P, 5-AD - 000026193
British Pharma Lean Gain Test, Mast, Tren - Test P/I, Tren A, Mast - 000033424
British Pharma Tren E 200 - Tren E/A/H - 000026190
BSI Methyltren + DS - Nothing - W000486
D-Hacks Cytomel T3 - Nothing - W000375 & W000506 *** Pills look different - One of them might not actually be genuine
D-Hacks Dbol - Winstrol - W000499 *** See D-Hacks Winstrol - Possible mix-up
D-Hacks T5 (ECA, DMAA) - EC, DMAA - W000501
D-Hacks Winstrol - DBol - W000502 *** See D-Hacks D-Bol- Possible mix-up
Delta Deca - EQ, Boldenone U, Boldenone - 000033471
Delta Sustanon 250 - Test C/E, Tren E - 000033472
Delta Test 400 Test E/C/D - Test E/C - 000033470
Delta Tri Tren - Test P, Tren E - 000030063
Fuerza Super Rip Test P, Tren A, Mast P - Test P, Tren A - W000398
Fuerza Test E - NPP - W000354
Ironsups Test 260 Test C/E - Test C, Test P - W000355
Isis Primo E 100 - Nandrolone - W000409
Jdl Turinabol - Tamoxifen, Methandrostenolone - W000351
Lipthai Sustanon P/I/P/D - Test C/E/P - W000476
Med Labs Testosterone Cypionate - Test P - W000383
Pro.chem Tri Sus 250 Test I/E/C - Tren A/E, Test E/C/P - 000026192
Red Square Mast 200 - EQ, Tren A - W000247
Red Square Primo 100 - Primo A, Tren A, Tren E, Masteron - W000250
Red Square SupaRip500 Test Tren Mast (?) - Tren E, Test C - W000253
Red Star Deca 300 - Tren E, Deca - 000026306
Red Star Sustanon 250 (P/P/I/D) - Test P/P/I/D/I - 000026307
ROHM TTM Test C, Tren E, Mast E - Tren E, Test C - W000410
Signature Pharma Mast 100 - Tren E, Tren A, Test E, Mast - W000200
Signature Pharma Test Cyp 250 - Test E - W000201
Signature Pharma Tren A 100 - Tren E, Tren A - W000199
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Damn! You still have some Dpharm gear? that must be way expired, same with thai pheonix.You must like to be stocked up but you seem overstocked. It never hurts to have extra PCt items but damn you have some old gear that should be used up. They would charge you at least 100$ to test every single product so your looking at a easy 1,000$ maybe more.
Yeah, even got some USPharma as well. I used to get my "allowance" in every month and could never use all of it so it sort of built up.
Though I did use all the Thai Phoenix and that shit was an absolute BEAST! Broke my heart when Selene reached her goal and retired. She could have at least turned her op over to someone else to keep making it.
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Ok this ? is to everyone ,
What is your fav. Ugl, or brand you have cycled on, and did they job needed to do .??
I'm
Currently running British Dragon , although I have read a few things about the lab. But honestly I'm noticing great gains from it, as I'm on my cutting phase .
Never seen anything but phenomenal results, rediculous gains from Chavo's gear. No, as in N-O NO, pip. Any time I hooked a friend up with it, they were blown away. One even liked his sust better than HG enanthate
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Yeah, even got some USPharma as well. I used to get my "allowance" in every month and could never use all of it so it sort of built up.
Though I did use all the Thai Phoenix and that shit was an absolute BEAST! Broke my heart when Selene reached her goal and retired. She could have at least turned her op over to someone else to keep making it.
DAMN! you still have USPharma gear-LOL. He got busted in operation raw deal that was like 7 years ago. did you buy it when USpharma started putting the vials in a Box to make it look more like Pharma gear?
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I never said he was a slow source. I used him a few times and my packs got shipped the next day. he also fucked up on one of my packs and sent my a whole bunch of free shit. This is when he was private. strango charges more then Human grade gear costs, plus some of his products are real hit and miss and one time they are Ok next time they are too painfull to inject. Once he went out from private and put his list back up on AB for a few weeks and Gh15's board he got swamped and got in over his head and then the quality went downhill. Not alot of people speak out if they get a bad product. I did it on AB and got banned for telling the truth.
Then all of a sudden I get all these Pm's from other people complaining about alot of products that were painfull or just didn"t work. I think when he was private maybe the gear wasn't anything psecial but he did ship it real fast and make up for any mistakes with lots of extras but maybe that is because my order ws bigger then most peoples. Some sources do look after there first clients or the big buyers before they take care of the smaller buyer wich isn"t fair. It's a service. you pay and you expect a product no matter how much you paid. everybody should get the same service.
I have seen this before a source gets backed up and takes care of their top customers and guys with big orders and the smaller buyers wait for months because the source dosn;t give a fuck if you ever buy again. They look at it like a order they should of never took from a member they have never dealt with, but they still have to deal with them and make the shit right if they took money.
Solid post. WW said, as far back as a couple years ago, that Strango wasnt the be all end all he was being made out to be. I'm glad to hear the guy makes good when he fucks up order, is that a plus or something? Fucking A he better make it right. His gear is WAY overpriced compared to his "competitor's." Never mind fucking up an order, how about his bunk gear? A close friend ran his EQ and nothing, nada, zero results. I've used his tren a couple years ago and found it to be very good. No where near as potent as Chavo's though. It's not out of this world to think he got so many new custy's the product has suffered, especially when he has his own personal pimp GH15. I'm sure all the mods on 15's board are getting the best of his product, just smart business there
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DAMN! you still have USPharma gear-LOL. He got busted in operation raw deal that was like 7 years ago. did you buy it when USpharma started putting the vials in a Box to make it look more like Pharma gear?
Wasn't USPharma owned by Jacob?
or am I thinking of someone else?
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Wasn't USPharma owned by Jacob?
or am I thinking of someone else?
forgot the name it is on the raw deal indictment if you can find that online. He lived in the midwest I want to say Wisconsin,somewhere around one of those states
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Ive been hearing a lot about this. Not surprised its true
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DAMN! you still have USPharma gear-LOL. He got busted in operation raw deal that was like 7 years ago. did you buy it when USpharma started putting the vials in a Box to make it look more like Pharma gear?
Yeah. $30 for Test Enan. I remember the first batches that he started using boxes for. The boxes were actually too little and you can had to practically cut the sides in order to get the vial out.
He got bigger boxes for the vial and then hired that Sean dude (forgot his username) to make his labels for them (Sean was printing off labels for a lot of UGLs then) and instead, Sean took his $9k and the rest of the money from the other sources who were using him and skipped out. I honestly had to hold my head and just laugh at that. You expect some sources to turn scammer and bail... but a label maker? LOL!
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Yeah. $30 for Test Enan. I remember the first batches that he started using boxes for. The boxes were actually too little and you can had to practically cut the sides in order to get the vial out.
He got bigger boxes for the vial and then hired that Sean dude (forgot his username) to make his labels for them (Sean was printing off labels for a lot of UGLs then) and instead, Sean took his $9k and the rest of the money from the other sources who were using him and skipped out. I honestly had to hold my head and just laugh at that. You expect some sources to turn scammer and bail... but a label maker? LOL!
LOL- Yes I remember that! I forget his screenname too but he was a member on SSB and he made the labels for alot of uGL's on SSB even Gymaces labels. I remeber when he ran off with that money. I thought the same thing. getting scammmed on labels-LOL priceless. Yes I was one of the first guys who got the gear in the boxes. That run the labels actually got fucked up and the guy fucked up the date manufactured, It said manufactured a year after. so it looked unprofessional I called it gear from the future because as far as the manufactured date it was a year away. USPharma was actually pissed at the guy who made those labels even back then and he did get the guy to send him a new batch of labels and USPharma sent me correct labels.
Uspharma used to always fight with this guy called bigpimpin something or other. Uspharma would always sell this guy 2 grand orders and also front him some gear on top of what the guy bought and everytime there was a problem and it got voiced on SSB. It was hilarious and then the two would fix it up then next order something else would happen like the guy accused USpharma sent him winstrol that was not peg winstrol and he bitched then USpharma would come on and say yes it was peg based winstrol and he wanted his money. I told USPharma stop dealing with this guy every single time you sell him gear you guys have a big fight and all this personal business gets fought out on the forum in the open. The guy did order a few thousand dollars of gear but USpharma would always front him some extra and there was always some kind of problem.
Big buyers are nice but if they are going to bitch about something everytime why continue to bother with them? anyway USpharma had some gambling issues and needed money. All these sources seem like they are making alot of money but they all have some crazy addictions wether it is drugs or gambling or investments they always seem to have less money then they should have.
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anyone used Balkan Pharma gear?
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anyone used Balkan Pharma gear?
Paging WhiteWidow, please pick up the white courtesy phone...
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anyone used Balkan Pharma gear?
Balkan sucks bro. It's pushed over in Moldova by Alin.
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LOL- Yes I remember that! I forget his screenname too but he was a member on SSB and he made the labels for alot of uGL's on SSB even Gymaces labels. I remeber when he ran off with that money. I thought the same thing. getting scammmed on labels-LOL priceless. Yes I was one of the first guys who got the gear in the boxes. That run the labels actually got fucked up and the guy fucked up the date manufactured, It said manufactured a year after. so it looked unprofessional I called it gear from the future because as far as the manufactured date it was a year away. USPharma was actually pissed at the guy who made those labels even back then and he did get the guy to send him a new batch of labels and USPharma sent me correct labels.
Uspharma used to always fight with this guy called bigpimpin something or other. Uspharma would always sell this guy 2 grand orders and also front him some gear on top of what the guy bought and everytime there was a problem and it got voiced on SSB. It was hilarious and then the two would fix it up then next order something else would happen like the guy accused USpharma sent him winstrol that was not peg winstrol and he bitched then USpharma would come on and say yes it was peg based winstrol and he wanted his money. I told USPharma stop dealing with this guy every single time you sell him gear you guys have a big fight and all this personal business gets fought out on the forum in the open. The guy did order a few thousand dollars of gear but USpharma would always front him some extra and there was always some kind of problem.
Big buyers are nice but if they are going to bitch about something everytime why continue to bother with them? anyway USpharma had some gambling issues and needed money. All these sources seem like they are making alot of money but they all have some crazy addictions wether it is drugs or gambling or investments they always seem to have less money then they should have.
Yeah. No shit. But bigpimpin actually had the ear of a couple of mods and they kept vouching for him. I remember that USPharma had that avatar of the endless 100 dollar bills being fanned towards the camera... I used to think "how many times has that money roll been gapped because of the people that ripped him off?" He was not the smartest person in the biz. Had great gear, everyone loved it, but the dude was a business dum-dum. I placed an order for $1400 once that was for myself and 3 friends. Well after I mailed off the funds one guy wanted to change his order and get EQ instead of deca. So I emailed USPharma and let him know that the order had changed but the amount was still the same. I got the first (original) order in about a week. I thought "well shit, the EQ isn't here so I will just let him know". I emailed him and the very next day the "revised" order showed up. So I thought he was aware of it and had fixed it, even though it was the the full $1400 worth and not just the missing EQ. Then a week later ANOTHER order - $1400 - worth showed up that was identical to the revised order. I got $4200 worth of gear in less that three weeks. Convinced me that multiple people were checking the email.
Then about two weeks later Gymace started that contest to win that motorcycle and that was the beginning of the end. I left and never logged back on. It had that stink to it by then. Same stink that the original Triedia had when the two board sources merged into being Da Boyz. I used to fucking cringe every time Super Woman typed "da boyz" in one of her stupid replies. I wanted to hold that bitch down and slap her with my cock for being so damn stupid.
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LOL- Yes I remember that! I forget his screenname too but he was a member on SSB and he made the labels for alot of uGL's on SSB even Gymaces labels. I remeber when he ran off with that money. I thought the same thing. getting scammmed on labels-LOL priceless. Yes I was one of the first guys who got the gear in the boxes. That run the labels actually got fucked up and the guy fucked up the date manufactured, It said manufactured a year after. so it looked unprofessional I called it gear from the future because as far as the manufactured date it was a year away. USPharma was actually pissed at the guy who made those labels even back then and he did get the guy to send him a new batch of labels and USPharma sent me correct labels.
Uspharma used to always fight with this guy called bigpimpin something or other. Uspharma would always sell this guy 2 grand orders and also front him some gear on top of what the guy bought and everytime there was a problem and it got voiced on SSB. It was hilarious and then the two would fix it up then next order something else would happen like the guy accused USpharma sent him winstrol that was not peg winstrol and he bitched then USpharma would come on and say yes it was peg based winstrol and he wanted his money. I told USPharma stop dealing with this guy every single time you sell him gear you guys have a big fight and all this personal business gets fought out on the forum in the open. The guy did order a few thousand dollars of gear but USpharma would always front him some extra and there was always some kind of problem.
Big buyers are nice but if they are going to bitch about something everytime why continue to bother with them? anyway USpharma had some gambling issues and needed money. All these sources seem like they are making alot of money but they all have some crazy addictions wether it is drugs or gambling or investments they always seem to have less money then they should have.
it's not a 'steady' business.. there's peak's and valley's. so you can come out of pocket $20k, and be sitting on $300k worth of inventory, get hit with $10k un-expected expenses on top of your regular obligations, and be broke, or be near to it. it's like being house-poor.... or you can run your inventory down (holding inventory in business is generally a bad thing, but in this biz it's a good thing because of the unpredictability of the 'environment') and be expecting a couple $10k orders from a couple regular customers and for some reason THEY flake on you and can't do $10k, they can only do $1k, but they expect $3k worth of product (while he sits there wearing a $22k 18k gold Rolex YMII with a CL600 in the parking lot.. ::) ), and you're 'accounts receivable' goes from $20k , down to $3k and you have to pull money from other investments.
we're not buying and selling coffee beans or orange juice concentrate here... there's unpredictability in the market on both sides, which is why we charge what we charge. we're the one's taking the risk.. the serious risks. not just talking a $300 cash order.
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Balkan sucks bro. It's pushed over in Moldova by Alin.
hmm it gets good review online and in person...
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haha..
tbol that's actually dbol with nolva? 10mg dbol with 5mg nolva can mimick tbol's 'effects'
masteron that's actually tren? 30mg of tren can seem like 100mg masteron.
I've been telling you guys about this all along. dirty tricks of incompetent 'cooks'.
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Paging WhiteWidow, please pick up the white courtesy phone...
I think it is hit and miss Bostin lloyd used balkan pharm but he also was using a few other brands so hard to tell wich brand worked the best. balkan Pharm is made just like the British Dragon gear that was made the last few months before the closed down. Alin had guys who brewed up the last few batches of british dragon gear and Genxxlgear said it wasn;t the sa,me as when the original guys brewed it but one of them died that month so alin took over then genxxlgear stopped excepting the gear and started pushing a new line called axio labs and alin changed the name to Balkan Pharm Gear as he was not the one who came up with the british dragon name and gear line-up but as you can see alin did a good job of knocking off british dragons look of the gear and the products. so did genxxlgear with axio labs they knocked off british dragons products and good looking vials.
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it's not a 'steady' business.. there's peak's and valley's. so you can come out of pocket $20k, and be sitting on $300k worth of inventory, get hit with $10k un-expected expenses on top of your regular obligations, and be broke, or be near to it. it's like being house-poor.... or you can run your inventory down (holding inventory in business is generally a bad thing, but in this biz it's a good thing because of the unpredictability of the 'environment') and be expecting a couple $10k orders from a couple regular customers and for some reason THEY flake on you and can't do $10k, they can only do $1k, but they expect $3k worth of product (while he sits there wearing a $22k 18k gold Rolex YMII with a CL600 in the parking lot.. ::) ), and you're 'accounts receivable' goes from $20k , down to $3k and you have to pull money from other investments.
we're not buying and selling coffee beans or orange juice concentrate here... there's unpredictability in the market on both sides, which is why we charge what we charge. we're the one's taking the risk.. the serious risks. not just talking a $300 cash order.
way diffrent when your not private and a source on SSB. SSb had guys buying out every source! I remember when LE flipped Anapharm and logged in as anapharm and took orders as if they were anapharm for 1 whole month and they took in about 94,000$ and people were not even getting their orders every now and then LE would come on and post up that they were waiting on raw materials and it would take longer . Anapharm sold 50ml jugs and 10ml vials as well as the golden triangle lab so they got alot of business. That was a shitty month and Anapharm still took in 94,000$ with the LE answering their emails. Nobody got a pack all month and people kept ordering thinking they would get their gear. That was a sad sting! I actually donated some gear to some of the guys who lost gear, Anapharm also sold blue top HGH domestic so you could see how it could add up fast. I think on a regular good month where people actually got their products in a few days they got 130.000$ in orders. All SSB sources did real well.
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Bumping this for a ProTip since some people seem helpless
Yes, SRCS was easy but for $20 you can have anything tested to USP
You just need to spend five mins on google looking for chemical testing labs in China, India etc where they can legally test your powder. It takes a week or two but is totally worth it.
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Bumping this for a ProTip since some people seem helpless
Yes, SRCS was easy but for $20 you can have anything tested to USP
You just need to spend five mins on google looking for chemical testing labs in China, India etc where they can legally test your powder. It takes a week or two but is totally worth it.
I rather go with SRCS if I could. The DEA uses SRCS and so does other LE,so you know srcs is no joke. 100$ to make sure your gear is what it is and on point mg wise is a cheap price especially if you are going to start ordering thousands of dollars of the gear brand
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I rather go with SRCS if I could. The DEA uses SRCS and so does other LE,so you know srcs is no joke. 100$ to make sure your gear is what it is and on point mg wise is a cheap price especially if you are going to start ordering thousands of dollars of the gear brand
Oh me too, but since the bust it's very hard to get any other lab to assay controlled substances in the us. I Han no luck with the tens of small labs I tried to get to test... The advantage of foreign is it's not illegal for them to do it, and if they use USP testing then it's even better.