If you'd invested $5000 with Warren Buffett in 1966, you would be $150m rich today. High % yearly returns+ dividends + year in year out compounded interest...the latter being a powerful tool in long term investments.
Last year Axa Framlington Biotech, a UK Fund gained 61%.
Let's say hypothetically you invest £10,000 UK Pounds today, you are 35 years old and this funds deilvers a yearly return of 50% year in and year out, you would have a cool £15.5 Million (gross return) to retire on at the ripe age of 50 years old, this is without adding a single penny to that initial £10,000. If you achieve year in year out 32% return, you would hit a million pound cash in your early retirement (50) without adding a penny to the pot.
You must be very young and naïve.
Buffett started buying stocks at precisely the correct moment in history. Buying all the insurance companies was smart thing at the time. Now he only "invests" in companies that have a government backing and banks that pay him a 5-10% coupon. The man is an insider, despite his Coke drinking and ukulele playing grandpa image. A very shrewd and greedy man
The stock market is a huge bubble right now all pumped up by the Fed reserve. When this thing pops, it's gonna make the 1929 crash look like a picnic.
Every asset class has it's cycle... right now stocks and RE are NOT the place to be.
Buy gold and silver instead.
If you'd invested $5000 with Warren Buffett in 1966, you would be $150m rich today. High % yearly returns+ dividends + year in year out compounded interest...the latter being a powerful tool in long term investments.
Last year Axa Framlington Biotech, a UK Fund gained 61%.
Let's say hypothetically you invest £10,000 UK Pounds today, you are 35 years old and this funds deilvers a yearly return of 50% year in and year out, you would have a cool £15.5 Million (gross return) to retire on at the ripe age of 50 years old, this is without adding a single penny to that initial £10,000. If you achieve year in year out 32% return, you would hit a million pound cash in your early retirement (50) without adding a penny to the pot.
its a lottery at best
I like this Skorp guy.
No, I am not naive....I know full well the difference between investing in the hay days in the 60's is a different ball game to investing now.
I don't buy into this "equities are gone" malarki and blanket ill thought out appraoches, there are many investors making high returns on Asian stocks, Emmerging Markets, Large cap, Small cap, Commodities, futures....etc you name it.
I liquidated 50% of my holding, and inevsted it in a Bank in the UK that was bailed out, every single person would have told me not touch a Bank with a barge pole, I was buying their shares in March to June 2012 for an average of around 30p, today they are hovering in the 81p mark, that's a 150% return.
When it comes to this game, being a contrarian does pay off and doing your research and drawing up substantiated conclusions is the way to go. Calling someone naive is naivity in itself.
Thank you sir
So you are betting on "bail-outs" then. Hmmmm.
If you'd invested $5000 with Warren Buffett in 1966, you would be $150m rich today. High % yearly returns+ dividends + year in year out compounded interest...the latter being a powerful tool in long term investments.
Last year Axa Framlington Biotech, a UK Fund gained 61%.
Let's say hypothetically you invest £10,000 UK Pounds today, you are 35 years old and this funds deilvers a yearly return of 50% year in and year out, you would have a cool £15.5 Million (gross return) to retire on at the ripe age of 50 years old, this is without adding a single penny to that initial £10,000. If you achieve year in year out 32% return, you would hit a million pound cash in your early retirement (50) without adding a penny to the pot.
If you'd invested $5000 with Warren Buffett in 1966, you would be $150m rich today. High % yearly returns+ dividends + year in year out compounded interest...the latter being a powerful tool in long term investments.
Last year Axa Framlington Biotech, a UK Fund gained 61%.
Let's say hypothetically you invest £10,000 UK Pounds today, you are 35 years old and this funds deilvers a yearly return of 50% year in and year out, you would have a cool £15.5 Million (gross return) to retire on at the ripe age of 50 years old, this is without adding a single penny to that initial £10,000. If you achieve year in year out 32% return, you would hit a million pound cash in your early retirement (50) without adding a penny to the pot.
Leave it in an ISA or idle in your account, with inflation its a fruit machine on a bad day.
You must be very young and naïve.
Buffett started buying stocks at precisely the correct moment in history. Buying all the insurance companies was smart thing at the time. Now he only "invests" in companies that have a government backing and banks that pay him a 5-10% coupon. The man is an insider, despite his Coke drinking and ukulele playing grandpa image. A very shrewd and greedy man
The stock market is a huge bubble right now all pumped up by the Fed reserve. When this thing pops, it's gonna make the 1929 crash look like a picnic.
Every asset class has it's cycle... right now stocks and RE are NOT the place to be.
Buy gold and silver instead.
X1000 minus the gold and silver part. Buffet was heavily invested in Goldman, Wells Fargo and BofA plus many other banks and insurance companies. Right before the housing boom he "miraculously" bought a realty giant in Prudential Realty and sure enough he made serious bank from it. You think he didn't know about the housing manipulation that was about to happen? It was a big orchestrated scam. The mutherfucker is a scum piece of shit. Fucker should be hanged from his balls for fucking over so many people.
If you'd invested $5000 with Warren Buffett in 1966, you would be $150m rich today. High % yearly returns+ dividends + year in year out compounded interest...the latter being a powerful tool in long term investments.
These are funny, because they assume the investor would never have cashed in when they merely double, tripled or quadrupled their money........
These are funny, because they assume the investor would never have cashed in when they merely double, tripled or quadrupled their money........
And that is the sales pitch/stock broker platitudes they still give you... "Stay invested for the long term" -lol. It's a totally different situation/world today. Inflation (i.e. dollar debasement) and taxes eat you alive.
Today's stock market is a complete façade. Insider criminals and algorithmic trading computers run the whole show. There is no "free market" anymore. The coming crash will be like nothing we've ever seen.
No, I am far from naive. I know full well the difference between investing in the hay days of the 60's is a different ball game to investing now. Insider dealing was rife.
I don't buy into this "equities are gone" malarki and blanket ill thought out approaches, there are many investors making high returns on Asian stocks, Emmerging Markets, Large cap, Small cap, Commodities, futures....etc you name it.
I liquidated 50% of my holding, and invested it in a Bank in the UK that was bailed out, every single person would have told me not touch a Bank with a barge pole, I was buying their shares in March to June 2012 for an average of around 30p, today they are hovering in the 81p mark, that's a 150% return. Check out Lloyds Bank, ticker (LLOY) to back up my claims.
When it comes to this game, being a contrarian does pay off and doing your research and drawing up substantiated conclusions is the way to go. Calling someone naive is naivity in itself.
It's so simple guys - invest for the long run - get 50% annual return for 30 years straight - BOOM! You are set!
Wow
I spend weeks on end doing my research on firms and industries, chekcing their financials, who's the new CEO, his background, the future of the industry, what happened to it in the past why and how and the full outlook on so many levels, then I cherry pick my stocks and shares and the odd fund.
Then comes a Gtebigger and says there's an appocalypse pending like the 1929 and gold is the only commodoty you should buy....calling naive and stupid all the while in the last 3 years alone my own portfolio is performing just like predicted.
This is what "contrarian investors" do....as opposed to the common sheep herded investor, spewing articles from the internet then thinking he's got the financial markets of the world figured out.
The best quote ever was this Canadian Million Penny Stock investor. When asked what his secret was he said " I always sold too early". Sticking long term with a stock is for fools.
You must be very young and naïve.Yes, he is a front not a genius.
Buffett started buying stocks at precisely the correct moment in history. Buying all the insurance companies was smart thing at the time. Now he only "invests" in companies that have a government backing and banks that pay him a 5-10% coupon. The man is an insider, despite his Coke drinking and ukulele playing grandpa image. A very shrewd and greedy man
The stock market is a huge bubble right now all pumped up by the Fed reserve. When this thing pops, it's gonna make the 1929 crash look like a picnic.
Every asset class has it's cycle... right now stocks and RE are NOT the place to be.
Buy gold and silver instead.
Yes, he is a front not a genius.
The best quote ever was this Canadian Million Penny Stock investor. When asked what his secret was he said " I always sold too early". Sticking long term with a stock is for fools. The ones that make real money cash out as soon as they see some green and keep moving their money around. Before you know it you are playing with house money with not much to lose.
what tools do you use for your research?
just mulling through news? looking at charts? etc?
Unrealistic my brother unless you have a lots of money to invest or are insider dealing like Rajaratnam or gonna hold long ass views.Investing $5000 in 1966 with an unknown is a total crapshoot that no one could have predicted. $5K in 1966 was a shit load of money.
Trouble is in the long term we'd all be dead! (can't remember who said that!)
Stocks is waste of time in my opinion in today's climate.
Now day trading futures and S&P 500 Mini, suddenly my cock gets hard and you got my attention, different beast, major bucks to be made and lost overnight.
But you ain't gonna get rich betting like a bitch! ;)
People make me laugh when they say shit like, "I bought Apple at $500 and sold it at $700" I made 40%. Big fucking deal. The ones who trule made money bought Apple at $17 when no one gave a shit about Apple and sold at $500.
Not only is he swole, but he bangs silicone barbies, vacations in luxury and undoubtedly has a flesh rocket to match his intellect.FRONT RUNNER FOR GETBIGGER OF THE MONTH
Well, I started this post to stir some arguments and it has, some interesting views but all seem like blanket appraoches rather than balanced arguments. But hey, I am not here to change the way people think as we all know all getbiggers are nothing but rich stud muffins who have expetise in every field from financial markets to Europe's black kingdoms.
Just look at my post up a bit about what $5k was worth in 1966. You tried to act like $5K was nothing to invest but back then it was about a year's salary.
What uni you go bro?
I don't disclose such info to stalkers...I don't need any bodywash >:(
Manchester Met and did some further study at the London Business School
The Bodywash story wasn't true by the way.
are you on linked in
seems im the only get bigger who is
I used to be, then over the last few years I kept getting spammed by recruiters, they get the name of your employer then call it and ask to speak to you...etc. Very annoying.
yeah its got that way
also you get plagued by chinese and indian business men
messaging you in pigeon english
just seems strange that most serious business men are on there
apart from all the multi millionaires on get big
Skorp1o as a value investor myself you are a disgrace by the way you frame yourself. You make it sound so trite and easy. You sell false hopes and dreams not only to your self but others. Its disgusting to see someone minimize the amount of work, blood and sweat it takes to find a good investment and to stick with it. Warren Buffett didn't wake up one day invest in a business an get rich...the man spent almost every waking hour of his day manipulating, lying and stepping on throats. You do that in any legit field and you will be a success. Truly disgusts me when people make equity investing seem like some kinda video game where you press a button and become rich...those stories happen but they are few and far between.
Heres a great quote by Munger( you do know who munger is since you are so knowledge, right?):
"It's(investing) not supposed to be easy. Anyone who finds it easy is stupid."
I think hes referring to you!
EDIT: ps i love your example of investing in a fund that makes 50% per year lol. You are so foolish ;D In a way I love people like you. Makes the game easier.
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Skorp1o as a value investor myself you are a disgrace by the way you frame yourself. You make it sound so trite and easy. You sell false hopes and dreams not only to your self but others. Its disgusting to see someone minimize the amount of work, blood and sweat it takes to find a good investment and to stick with it. Warren Buffett didn't wake up one day invest in a business an get rich...the man spent almost every waking hour of his day analyzing, reading, and learning. You do that in any legit field and you will be a success. Truly disgusts me when people make equity investing seem like some kinda video game where you press a button and become rich...those stories happen but they are few and far between.
Heres a great quote by Munger( you do know who munger is since you are so knowledge, right?):
"It's(investing) not supposed to be easy. Anyone who finds it easy is stupid."
I think hes referring to you!
EDIT: ps i love your example of investing in a fund that makes 50% per year lol. You are so foolish ;D In a way I love people like you. Makes the game easier.
First I never mentioned/bragged about any position I had financially or status wise...You can be an investor in any capability it all matters about your % gained not nominal value of your investments or potential investment capital.
so its safe to assume that you are a power figure and among the elite of the elite in the financial world, due to this game being easy.
"pissant" - notice how your name wasnt modified in any way, you took out all the hard work for me, making the game easier, so to speak
yes cause saying something might be easier due to the incompetence of SOME players means the game overall is very easy...
EXAMPLE: Its like going to a game of pick up basketball with all Hebrews and 1 autistic child. You think to yourself shit this might be easier than usual since there is a retard in the game. The game over all is diffcult the autistic child gives you hope it might be easier than normal.
Strong logic though im sure you graduated from Harvard.
I enjoyed the back peddling induced edit to your original post.I only added to the eloquence of my rebuttal no backpedaling was done...
I only added to the eloquence of my rebuttal no backpedaling was done...
I think I added a taste of class and "eloquence" to my "rebuttal".
ehhh find it pretty petty actually. You built a straw-man, i rebutted , you build another straw-man then post a pic of some dudes ass...
Childish to bordering on downs to say the least.
im unfamiliar with the term straw man. elab plzwouldnt expect someone with a lame "streetwear" brand as their avi to under much of anything.
wouldnt expect someone with a lame "streetwear" brand as their avi to under much of anything.
i know someone who lost a million usd despite having had alleged inside info in the stockmarkets.
all gone.
ofc its not "gone", only went to someone else
i know someone who lost a million usd despite having had alleged inside info in the stockmarkets.Your info is only as good as your source. Its like journalism.
all gone.
ofc its not "gone", only went to someone else
People who invest in gold are idiots. When you see if being worn by porch monkeys how can you call it a sound investment?
Skorp1o as a value investor myself you are a disgrace by the way you frame yourself. You make it sound so trite and easy. You sell false hopes and dreams not only to your self but others. Its disgusting to see someone minimize the amount of work, blood and sweat it takes to find a good investment and to stick with it. Warren Buffett didn't wake up one day invest in a business an get rich...the man spent almost every waking hour of his day analyzing, reading, and learning. You do that in any legit field and you will be a success. Truly disgusts me when people make equity investing seem like some kinda video game where you press a button and become rich...those stories happen but they are few and far between.
Heres a great quote by Munger( you do know who munger is since you are so knowledge, right?):
"It's(investing) not supposed to be easy. Anyone who finds it easy is stupid."
I think hes referring to you!
EDIT: ps i love your example of investing in a fund that makes 50% per year lol. You are so foolish ;D In a way I love people like you. Makes the game easier.
Congratulations, this is officially the dumbest post on this thread.
You can't discredit me when I am giving my own real life examples quoting tickers for such investment you can verify for yourself, you discredit me while providing zero substantiation and no valid argument but empty insults reflecting your low intelligence. For morrons like you id say stay away from the market.
And whilst I head on exotic holidays, and whilst I'll be banging a fine ass 20yr old chick 20 yr old chick with massive plastic tits and dining then fucking her til sweat drips on my ripped up pecs. You can sit here on your fat American ass and tell the world that I am an idiot all day long :D
I tried to give people some motivational thoughts on possibilities in this world, its what I thrive on....hope, but it seems the will of the pessimists and what I call "poor man's mentality" is way too rife. So go fuck yourself :P
Congratulations, this is officially the dumbest post on this thread.
You can't discredit me when I am giving my own real life examples quoting tickers for such investment you can verify for yourself, you discredit me while providing zero substantiation and no valid argument but empty insults reflecting your low intelligence. For morrons like you id say stay away from the market.
And whilst this week I managed to book my self a holiday in an exotic place for two weeks all paid for from returns, and whilst I'll be banging a fine ass chick 20 yr old chick this weekend with massive plastic tits wining and dining then fucking her til seat drips on my ripped up abs. You can sit here on your fat American ass and tell the world that I am an idiot I am all day long :D
I tried to give people some motivational thoughts on possibilities in this world, its what I thrive on....hope, but it seems the will of the pessimists and what I call "poor man's mentality" is way too rife. So go fuck yourself :P
your motivational insight was as follow...
go back in time and hold Berkshire for 20+ years.
Invest in a fund that made a onetime gain of 50% in a year hoping it will continue making 50% every year.
The fact that you have to brag about your self over a message board just shows how truly insecure you are. Show me wealthy fund managers who are on forums bragging about taking exotic vacations and banging 1k an hour escorts while high on Colombian cocaine. Id love to see it.
Anyone can give real life examples...2 personally from last year: I invested in PSX shortly after COP spun if off made around 100% gain. I investing HY shortly after NACCO giving 100%+ gain.
Now what you need to under stand is saying what you invested in and how much you made is meaningless. The true art is how you found your investments not what price did you buy and sell them at. You talk nothing of valuation or investment strategy. Remember friend, Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. You are still stuck on the events stage of thinking.
You sound like a charlatan on an infomercial rather than an astute serious investor.
Go fuck yourself you deluded prick lol another gimmick picking a fight with me due to inferiority sentiments...your post screams envious little girl all over it.
Go fuck yourself you deluded prick lol another gimmick picking a fight with me due to inferiority sentiments...your post screams envious little girl all over it.
You're such an insecure retard trying to downgrade people to make yourself seem better.
You're such an insecure retard trying to downgrade people to make yourself seem better.
i'm making a killing on the stock market
Berkshire Hathaway has no correlation to markets and trading.
Buffet has bought government influence and legislation since the beginning. His results are not due to any trading methodology and most traders know this.
Lies. Market maker through legislation. ;D
Show me wealthy fund managers who are on forums bragging about taking exotic vacations and banging 1k an hour escorts while high on Colombian cocaine. Id love to see it.
Making good $ in investing is far from easy... You either have to be very intelligent with a great logic sense and constantly look up the news, reports, markets info,etc all the time.. Or be lucky enough to find someone who's good at it, which is hard because for some reason in this field, everybody thinks they are some sort of genius.
As soon as they understand how it works, they then think they know how to make it work and profit, but they almost all fails big time and end up quitting, convincing themselves that the only people who succeed are firms with super-programs, or those who have insider infos
People who invest in gold are idiots. When you see if being worn by porch monkeys how can you call it a sound investment?
which is why it's a full time job.
if you 'casually invest' or 'play the market', you're going to get chewed up and spit out. there is no 'casual investing'. you're either in or your out.
most people who make a living from 'the stock market' don't do it with their own money.
prove you know what you're doing and can turn a profit and get others to give you money to invest for them and take a percentage of that profit
You must be very young and naïve.
Buffett started buying stocks at precisely the correct moment in history. Buying all the insurance companies was smart thing at the time. Now he only "invests" in companies that have a government backing and banks that pay him a 5-10% coupon. The man is an insider, despite his Coke drinking and ukulele playing grandpa image. A very shrewd and greedy man
The stock market is a huge bubble right now all pumped up by the Fed reserve. When this thing pops, it's gonna make the 1929 crash look like a picnic.
Every asset class has it's cycle... right now stocks and RE are NOT the place to be.
Buy gold and silver instead.
Your wrong about one thing. When Warren first started buying stocks it was not the right time to buy. Ben Grahm and his father told him to wait, but he wanted to just jump in there and do it.
He is shrewd and has crafted his gradpa image, but he is also very giving of his knowledge to everyone. I have nothing but admiration for the man.
buffet's a different kind of investor than many of us will ever be. with the capital he has behind him, he can take his time and sit and wait.. most of us can't. we need to trade what's moving right now.. which is why we're traders, not investors. if we sit and wait, we lose money, (if we're not making money, with our money, we're losing money and missing opportunities), unless you have an 'income' fund which you can derive income from dividends. you can have a net worth of 500k and control a fund with 500k and still be dead broke if you're not liquid.all that matters is yearly % returned. If you have cashflow coming from your employment long term investing is doable. If you wanna live of your stock market returns on a month to month basis its not for you.