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Title: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: sancho ed on February 20, 2014, 11:06:42 PM
branch beating wolf at asc 2013(and winning best poser wtf?)
cutler beating martinez (olympia 2007)
coleman beating cutler (olympia 2001)
cutler beating cormier (forgot which asc)
yates beating nasser(olympia 1997)
kevin english winning any show lol

anyone care to comment?

Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Roger Bacon on February 20, 2014, 11:09:53 PM
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: FermiDirac on February 20, 2014, 11:11:02 PM
branch beating wolf at asc 2013(and winning best poser wtf?)
cutler beating martinez (olympia 2007)
coleman beating cutler (olympia 2001)
cutler beating cormier (forgot which asc)
yates beating nasser(olympia 1997)
kevin english winning any show lol

anyone care to comment?



Surprised Coleman obliterated any competition during his prime?

0/10
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: calfzilla on February 21, 2014, 12:09:13 AM
Man there are just so many. Even this years Olympia Heath beating wolf. And the year before Heath beating Kai.

2001 Cutler and Ronnie.

The year Gunter lost to Ronnie at the O but won the gnc show.

There are so many. How about every contest Bob Paris didn't win lol.

Nasser 3 time at least mr O.

Hell even go back to Dave Draper getting beat by Arnold.
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: SF1900 on February 21, 2014, 12:15:23 AM
Any time Branch beats anyone its a robbery.
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: syntaxmachine on February 21, 2014, 12:16:05 AM
Arce's "help meh I'm destitute wahh; I guarantee a 20% return I SWEARZ!" heist on getbig (though, the "victims" were willingly robbed, if that isn't a contradiction in terms).
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Teutonic Knight on February 21, 2014, 12:33:32 AM
branch beating wolf at asc 2013(and winning best poser wtf?)
cutler beating martinez (olympia 2007)
coleman beating cutler (olympia 2001)
cutler beating cormier (forgot which asc)
yates beating nasser(olympia 1997)
kevin english winning any show lol

anyone care to comment?



Hmm, let me think  ::), ah yes 1966 Fifa World Cup England vs Germany  :o
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Skeletor on February 21, 2014, 12:57:02 AM
Kevin English and his 1st placings against Flex Lewis and Dave Henry...

Columbu beating Platz at the 1981 Olympia (and Padilla 5th!!!).


Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Teutonic Knight on February 21, 2014, 01:06:55 AM
Kevin English and his 1st placings against Flex Lewis and Dave Henry...

Columbu beating Platz at the 1981 Olympia (and Padilla 5th!!!).




South African & Sydney Opera House Mr.Olympias  ;D no need to mention others .
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: falco on February 21, 2014, 02:24:19 AM
Mentzer was robbed to arnoldo
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Powerlift66 on February 21, 2014, 02:39:01 AM
Kevin English and his 1st placings against Flex Lewis and Dave Henry...

Columbu beating Platz at the 1981 Olympia (and Padilla 5th!!!).




Thats what I was going to say:

(http://www.strength-oldschool.com/uploads/1306044808/gallery_1_4_39267.jpg)
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Kwon_2 on February 21, 2014, 02:41:37 AM
Biggest Robbery?

Miguel Neil probably

(http://www.dispatch.com/content/graphics/2012/11/29/bodybuilder-art-gdukfg05-1bodybuilder-jpg.jpg?__scale=w:200,h:253,t:1)
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/11/29/bodybuilding-champion-suspect-in-slew-of-holdups.html
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: gracie bjj on February 21, 2014, 03:26:44 AM
Kevin English and his 1st placings against Flex Lewis and Dave Henry...

Columbu beating Platz at the 1981 Olympia (and Padilla 5th!!!).




i agree about platz  n franco, how does a guy win a olympia with zero legs, francos legs where horrible. padilla  n platz where much better over all
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: TheShape on February 21, 2014, 03:30:49 AM
Mentzer was robbed to arnoldo
False, he made 5th place. He still had to beat 4 other guys.
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on February 21, 2014, 03:33:18 AM
Billy guns winning over vince goodrum at the asc a couple of years ago
 The judges where clearly rascist asholes
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: falco on February 21, 2014, 03:34:53 AM
(http://www.dispatch.com/content/graphics/2012/11/29/bodybuilder-art-gdukfg05-1bodybuilder-jpg.jpg?__scale=w:200,h:253,t:1)
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: tom joad on February 21, 2014, 04:40:21 AM
Chick vs. Rusty Jeffers at the Masters Pro in 2006.
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Irongrip400 on February 21, 2014, 05:20:15 AM
Man there are just so many. Even this years Olympia Heath beating wolf. And the year before Heath beating Kai.

2001 Cutler and Ronnie.

The year Gunter lost to Ronnie at the O but won the gnc show.

There are so many. How about every contest Bob Paris didn't win lol.

Nasser 3 time at least mr O.

Hell even go back to Dave Draper getting beat by Arnold.

That was a point of no return for bodybuilding.  They could have steered the ship back towards aesthetics instead of mass monsters.
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: hipolito mejia on February 21, 2014, 07:10:53 AM
branch beating wolf at asc 2013(and winning best poser wtf?)
cutler beating martinez (olympia 2007)
coleman beating cutler (olympia 2001)
cutler beating cormier (forgot which asc)
yates beating nasser(olympia 1997)
kevin english winning any show lol

anyone care to comment?



IF you see the 1981 Mr.O  you will automatically forget about the list posted above.
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: 240 is Back on February 21, 2014, 07:59:17 AM
Chick vs. Rusty Jeffers at the Masters Pro in 2006.

stop clowning around
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: gracie bjj on February 21, 2014, 08:03:36 AM
IF you see the 1981 Mr.O  you will automatically forget about the list posted above.

it pays to b arnolds best freind, it payed off for franco anyway ;)
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: hipolito mejia on February 21, 2014, 08:05:52 AM
it pays to b arnolds best freind, it payed off for franco anyway ;)


Franco didn't deserve top 3 .....

Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: ChopperRider on February 21, 2014, 08:19:21 AM
1990 drug tested Mr. Olympia in Chicago.....Lee Haney got a gift.
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: gracie bjj on February 21, 2014, 08:22:28 AM

Franco didn't deserve top 3 .....



honestly he should have been 5th or 6th imo
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on February 21, 2014, 08:26:52 AM
Nasser beating Levrone at the 1999 Arnold Classic. Levrone decided to bring a leaner, smaller physique to that show but he was absolutely sliced to the bone. He won the most muscular trophy for that show which usually guarantees you're finishing in 1st place.
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: tom joad on February 21, 2014, 08:30:15 AM
stop clowning around

does Chick still tell himself that his only pro "win" wasn't tainted?
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: ChopperRider on February 21, 2014, 08:40:35 AM
IF you see the 1981 Mr.O  you will automatically forget about the list posted above.

1982 was just as bad.

Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: wes on February 21, 2014, 08:41:31 AM
Any time Branch beats anyone its a robbery.
Beat me to it.  :(
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Alucard on February 21, 2014, 09:01:54 AM
Too many to tell, but if we talk about only the most extreme robberies it goes like this: Columbu 1981 O, Cutler 2007 O, Warren 2012 ASC, Yates 1997 O, Cutler 2004 ASC... Those are in my opinion the most blatant,, but there are many more just a bit less shitty...
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Teutonic Knight on February 21, 2014, 01:58:35 PM
Guess who was NOT robbed for the 5th place (last 1) at 1975 Ifbb Mr.Australia ??? (Arnold was 1 of judges  ;D)
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: JasonH on February 21, 2014, 02:56:48 PM
Mike Katz's t-shirt in Pumping Iron.
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Branchs Ears on February 21, 2014, 02:59:56 PM
The 07 Olympia is the worst judging decision in the history of bodybuilding. Nothing else is even in the same universe. The fridge shouldn't have even been in the top 10 that day.

Any contest Branch makes the posedown is a distant second.
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Icelord on February 21, 2014, 03:02:21 PM
Paul Dillett winning the 1999 NOC. That guy was top 10 material on a good day.
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: sancho ed on February 21, 2014, 04:22:05 PM
Too many to tell, but if we talk about only the most extreme robberies it goes like this: Columbu 1981 O, Cutler 2007 O, Warren 2012 ASC, Yates 1997 O, Cutler 2004 ASC... Those are in my opinion the most blatant,, but there are many more just a bit less shitty...

cool.....looks like we agreed on most lol

on a side note, cutlers and english's placing at last mr olympias were huge gifts!
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Karl Kox on February 21, 2014, 07:58:24 PM
Chick vs. Rusty Jeffers at the Masters Pro in 2006.


That's exactly what I was about to type.
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: tom joad on February 21, 2014, 09:56:20 PM

That's exactly what I was about to type.

just like a few legendary athletes before him in other sports (Joe Namath, Muhammad Ali, Mark Messier ...),
Bob Cicherillo guaranteed victory (to Getbiggers) at the Masters Pro in 2006.
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on February 21, 2014, 10:24:28 PM
branch beating wolf at asc 2013(and winning best poser wtf?)
cutler beating martinez (olympia 2007)
coleman beating cutler (olympia 2001)
cutler beating cormier (forgot which asc)
yates beating nasser(olympia 1997)
kevin english winning any show lol

anyone care to comment?



franco winning the 81 olympia..
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Icelord on February 21, 2014, 10:26:20 PM
franco winning the 81 olympia..
Beautiful man with glasses being disqualified for diuretics at the 1996 Mr. O where he placed third. Should've won it that year.

Cutler was busted in 2001 one too but got to keep his spot because the IFBB magically decided the lab it contracted to was no longer IOC-approved
which breached their "highest standards", so positive results needn't matter anymore  ::)
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on February 21, 2014, 10:27:53 PM
Nasser beating Levrone at the 1999 Arnold Classic. Levrone decided to bring a leaner, smaller physique to that show but he was absolutely sliced to the bone. He won the most muscular trophy for that show which usually guarantees you're finishing in 1st place.

yes nasser told me after this trophy of levrone he was expecting they would give him 2nd in the final..
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on February 21, 2014, 10:29:57 PM
Beautiful man with glasses being disqualified for diuretics at the 1996 Mr. O where he placed third. Should've won it that year.

Cutler was busted in 2001 one too but got to keep his spot because the IFBB magically decided the lab it contracted to was no longer IOC-approved
which breached their "highest standards", so positive results needn't matter anymore  ::)

X2.. in 96 he lost to dorian in the 2 back poses only.. was very big and thick and hard.. one of his very best shapes..
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on February 21, 2014, 10:30:58 PM
1982 was just as bad.



yes samir should have won...
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Icelord on February 21, 2014, 10:32:06 PM
X2.. in 96 he lost to dorian in the 2 back poses only.. was very big and thick and hard.. one of his very best shapes..
PIP
Had a tighter waist too
(http://i48.tinypic.com/33jrbs6.jpg)
(http://i48.tinypic.com/vijip0.jpg)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/wlvgc8.jpg)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/20k8w7q.jpg)
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on February 21, 2014, 10:36:35 PM
PIP
Had a tighter waist too
(http://i48.tinypic.com/33jrbs6.jpg)
(http://i48.tinypic.com/vijip0.jpg)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/wlvgc8.jpg)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/20k8w7q.jpg)

this is 97.. he was better in 96.. still deserved to beat dorian in 97 as dorian presented his worse shape ever with one whole missing arm and big belly..
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Icelord on February 21, 2014, 10:38:13 PM
this is 97.. he was better in 96.. still deserved to beat dorian in 97 as dorian presented his worse shape ever with one whole missing arm and big belly..
Yeah my bad, I forgot to label it
this was 1996

insane shape
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4427981&d=1336320497)
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on February 21, 2014, 10:41:32 PM
in 96 nasser shitted on yates in all the front and side poses.. dorian shitted on him in the 2 rear poses only..
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Icelord on February 21, 2014, 10:42:30 PM
Nasser had much bigger legs and shoulders too. And back then he didn't use any synthol.
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on February 21, 2014, 10:47:39 PM
Nasser had much bigger legs and shoulders too. And back then he didn't use any synthol.

yes dorian was better in the 2 rear poses only because he had the best back ever.. but yes nasser had better rear shoulders, arms, and, hams in these poses..
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Alucard on February 22, 2014, 06:19:45 AM
Paul Dillett winning the 1999 NOC. That guy was top 10 material on a good day.
Please, top 10 material on a good day? I agree about the 1999 NOC, altough Rhul is a massive oilbag and always looked like a crab... But you clearly don't remember Dillett in the early 90s (the ultimate superfreak), in 1999 he was already burned out, almost retired, with a lot surgeries, nowere near his prime shape...
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Icelord on February 22, 2014, 08:15:02 AM
Please, top 10 material on a good day? I agree about the 1999 NOC, altough Rhul is a massive oilbag and always looked like a crab... But you clearly don't remember Dillett in the early 90s (the ultimate superfreak), in 1999 he was already burned out, almost retired, with a lot surgeries, nowere near his prime shape...
I remember him just fine. Gigantic, shapeless arms
chest covered in fat chunks of hideous veins
the back of a man about 50lbs lighter
and couldn't hold a pose for 3 seconds
not to mention carried off the AC stage like a cardboard cutout because he froze in FDB pose from diuretics abuse
he was a fat turd and had a terrible attitude
no wonder his career went nowhere, freak though he was
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: funk51 on February 22, 2014, 08:27:03 AM
branch beating wolf at asc 2013(and winning best poser wtf?)
cutler beating martinez (olympia 2007)
coleman beating cutler (olympia 2001)
cutler beating cormier (forgot which asc)
yates beating nasser(olympia 1997)
kevin english winning any show lol

anyone care to comment? guy on right came in fifth place    R U kidding me. also sergio oliva, harold poole, arthur harris's placings in the aau mr america contests.


;D
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Alucard on February 22, 2014, 09:47:49 AM
I remember him just fine. Gigantic, shapeless arms
chest covered in fat chunks of hideous veins
the back of a man about 50lbs lighter
and couldn't hold a pose for 3 seconds
not to mention carried off the AC stage like a cardboard cutout because he froze in FDB pose from diuretics abuse
he was a fat turd and had a terrible attitude
no wonder his career went nowhere, freak though he was
Ok, fine, we have different views on athletes, nothing wrong with it... The gigantic shapeless arms is too much, gigantic yes, the biggest in the history of bb (not counting super tall hideous bodybuilders with blobs and/or oiled freaks), but with amazing long peaked biceps and Levronesque long peaked triceps but bigger and full of striations, you need to refresh your memory... Varicose vein? Yes they sucked and penalised him a lot... Back? Back was wide with amazing insertions, he just couldn't open it and train it as it should... Posing sucked, especially after the 94 ASC incident (his potential career ended that day), but before was somewhat decent... Abuse from diuretics thank to John Romano, and what this had to do with his overall physique? In precedent posts you are praising Nasser who had shitty shaped oiled arms and oiled calves (yes, already in 1996), was fantastic from the front and not very good from the back (just like Dillett, who was even better from the front), but you think Paul was top 10 material at best... He was consistently top 5-6 in the toughest bb era, the early 90s, not bad for someone with such problems... Just debating Icelord, no problems...
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: sancho ed on February 22, 2014, 04:27:55 PM
dillett had amazing genetics, but back shots were beyond bad(yes, waaaay worst then nasser). and he never had that rock hard solid look like nasser or yates....always seemed watery
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: sancho ed on February 22, 2014, 04:37:11 PM
Kevin English and his 1st placings against Flex Lewis and Dave Henry...

Columbu beating Platz at the 1981 Olympia (and Padilla 5th!!!).




anyone with a link to finals 1981 olympia? cant find on youtube...
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Simple Simon on February 22, 2014, 04:38:11 PM
anyone with a link to finals 1981 olympia? cant find on youtube...
Columbu had them all removed out of embarrassment
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: calfzilla on February 22, 2014, 04:45:32 PM
Sometimes I wish we could just remove the whole dryness or "condition" aspect of bodybuilding. Just be massive and low bodyfat. Who cares is there is a little water.
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Icelord on February 22, 2014, 05:44:19 PM
Ok, fine, we have different views on athletes, nothing wrong with it... The gigantic shapeless arms is too much, gigantic yes, the biggest in the history of bb (not counting super tall hideous bodybuilders with blobs and/or oiled freaks), but with amazing long peaked biceps and Levronesque long peaked triceps but bigger and full of striations, you need to refresh your memory... Varicose vein? Yes they sucked and penalised him a lot... Back? Back was wide with amazing insertions, he just couldn't open it and train it as it should... Posing sucked, especially after the 94 ASC incident (his potential career ended that day), but before was somewhat decent... Abuse from diuretics thank to John Romano, and what this had to do with his overall physique? In precedent posts you are praising Nasser who had shitty shaped oiled arms and oiled calves (yes, already in 1996), was fantastic from the front and not very good from the back (just like Dillett, who was even better from the front), but you think Paul was top 10 material at best... He was consistently top 5-6 in the toughest bb era, the early 90s, not bad for someone with such problems... Just debating Icelord, no problems...
I don't need to refresh my memory about anything. I met the guy in real life at his "biggest", which was about 1998-1999.

He was fairly humble, an approachable bodybuilder compared to the others.

But his physique was wonky. He had freakishly big limbs and a narrow torso by comparison. His veins were genetic - but they looked ugly. And his chest wasn't that good.

Ultimately, he was a classic all-drugs physique. He was lazy in the gym. If he was so great, why didn't he win the O or place higher at the other shows?

because he didn't have "it". Ronnie had "it." Dexter had "it." In my opinion, Wolf does too.

This is Paul after he got off the sauce

(http://www.danielrisi.net/mediac/400_0/media/Dillett$20offseason.jpg)
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Nirvana on February 22, 2014, 05:58:33 PM
Any time Branch beats anyone its a robbery.
amen
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on February 22, 2014, 08:07:03 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: el numero uno on February 22, 2014, 08:28:24 PM
Kevin English must have sucked a lot of d¡ck$ to win so many shows looking like absolutely $hit.
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: jude2 on February 22, 2014, 09:51:10 PM
Josh Compton not winning the overall over the SHW. The Teen Nationals when the Gaspari kid beat the HW for the over all.
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Simple Simon on February 23, 2014, 01:26:44 AM
Sometimes I wish we could just remove the whole dryness or "condition" aspect of bodybuilding. Just be massive and low bodyfat. Who cares is there is a little water.
Dont you watch the Olympia shows anymore, you have just described 95% of the competitors.
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: The Grim Lifter on February 23, 2014, 01:41:43 AM
Kevin English must have sucked a lot of d¡ck$ to win so many shows looking like absolutely $hit.

Look at where he guest poses in someone's office trains
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: The Grim Lifter on February 23, 2014, 01:44:59 AM
;D (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=518741.0;attach=555836;image)

5th seems common when getting screwed....
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Danimal77 on February 23, 2014, 02:01:41 AM
Surprised Coleman obliterated any competition during his prime?

0/10


And we should care about what you have to say newbie? Your opinion = 0/10
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Alucard on February 23, 2014, 04:41:20 AM
I don't need to refresh my memory about anything. I met the guy in real life at his "biggest", which was about 1998-1999.

He was fairly humble, an approachable bodybuilder compared to the others.

But his physique was wonky. He had freakishly big limbs and a narrow torso by comparison. His veins were genetic - but they looked ugly. And his chest wasn't that good.

Ultimately, he was a classic all-drugs physique. He was lazy in the gym. If he was so great, why didn't he win the O or place higher at the other shows?

because he didn't have "it". Ronnie had "it." Dexter had "it." In my opinion, Wolf does too.

This is Paul after he got off the sauce

(http://www.danielrisi.net/mediac/400_0/media/Dillett$20offseason.jpg)
Well, in 1998-1999 he probably weighed more than in the past, but he was already washed up, also with many shoulder injuries that slowly destroyed his width... Yes, he was lazy, he also had a serious asthma problem... I agree that he was all drugs, but i will add all genetic and drugs... Not that all the others bodybuilders are different however, everyone is all drugs, and in his first years he probably used less than few others top competitors... He won few GPs, and always placed fairly well in top shows, he was third after the 1997 O prejudging, and was battling the first place with Levrone at 1994 ASC before the incident... Look, for me Paul was never a Mr Olympia, he never "had it" overall yes, he never had the mind of a Coleman or Yates, probably not followed by the right people, many also said that for him this was just a hobby, and he clearly had some mind-muscle problem from the start, not easy... I know fully well that Paul got in "fat turd" shape after retiring, but at least he was smart enough to stop everything, contrary to some decomposed melted ones, and it's been years that Paul returned normal, today he's fine... For me the early 90s Dillett will always remain as the ultimate superfreak, the most impressive physique i ever seen, an unbelievable combination with the greatest structure and muscle bellies on a real tall body, an alien that we probably never see again (just like Coleman for different things)...
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Hulkster on February 23, 2014, 06:11:54 AM
dont forget the 1994 Mr. Olympia

even musclemag thought ray should have beaten yates
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Ronnie Rep on February 23, 2014, 07:43:21 AM
Any time Branch beats anyone its a robbery.
This x 10, perfect example of what Bodybuilding has become!
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Mothballs on February 23, 2014, 08:02:11 AM
Dorian winning every olympia he won was basic highway robbery and lets not forget about Culter and his wins except for maybe 09 when he actually went on stage ripped.
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Alucard on February 23, 2014, 08:48:36 AM
dont forget the 1994 Mr. Olympia

even musclemag thought ray should have beaten yates
I really don't think the 1994 O as much of a robbery as 1997 O, but it could have been Ray first, Dillett second, Levrone third and Yates fourth... I'm not a fan of midgets but Ray was spot on that day... Yates still had the rock hard look and dwarfed Ray obviously, usually conditioned size win shows, but he had a torn arm, bit of a gut, and an awful color that seemed sick... Didn't he had also a torn quad already?
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Hulkster on February 23, 2014, 04:24:49 PM
yes I think so.
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Icelord on February 23, 2014, 04:31:38 PM
Well, in 1998-1999 he probably weighed more than in the past, but he was already washed up, also with many shoulder injuries that slowly destroyed his width... Yes, he was lazy, he also had a serious asthma problem... I agree that he was all drugs, but i will add all genetic and drugs... Not that all the others bodybuilders are different however, everyone is all drugs, and in his first years he probably used less than few others top competitors... He won few GPs, and always placed fairly well in top shows, he was third after the 1997 O prejudging, and was battling the first place with Levrone at 1994 ASC before the incident... Look, for me Paul was never a Mr Olympia, he never "had it" overall yes, he never had the mind of a Coleman or Yates, probably not followed by the right people, many also said that for him this was just a hobby, and he clearly had some mind-muscle problem from the start, not easy... I know fully well that Paul got in "fat turd" shape after retiring, but at least he was smart enough to stop everything, contrary to some decomposed melted ones, and it's been years that Paul returned normal, today he's fine... For me the early 90s Dillett will always remain as the ultimate superfreak, the most impressive physique i ever seen, an unbelievable combination with the greatest structure and muscle bellies on a real tall body, an alien that we probably never see again (just like Coleman for different things)...
If anything his huge calves as a black man were what made him a freak. The rest of him was big but nothing we haven't seen on others since and better (Zack Khan, Big Ramy, Coleman).
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: Submissionfytr on February 23, 2014, 04:36:29 PM
Cutler'a first Olympia "victory," even a 70% Coleman that night owned him
Mentzer getting robbed (as did Platz! and rest of top 5) by a smooth Arnold
Branch Warren in any show that he wasn't dead last in
Heath over Kai first time (last O Heath got him)
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: delta9mda on February 23, 2014, 07:55:47 PM
Billy guns winning over vince goodrum at the asc a couple of years ago
 The judges where clearly rascist asholes

no, i was there and witnessed the calamity. vince had some b cups and was smooth. billy at least was "lean". i have pics
Title: Re: biggest bb robberies...
Post by: delta9mda on February 23, 2014, 07:59:01 PM
in 96 nasser shitted on yates in all the front and side poses.. dorian shitted on him in the 2 rear poses only..
fuck your stupid pix. watch the video. Yates won both 96 and 97
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Post by: el numero uno on February 23, 2014, 08:02:57 PM
I can't see what's the deal with Mentzer, dude looked average for a pro from his era. Plus, he was fifth, not second, robbed by Arnold lol.
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Post by: Sherief Shalaby on February 24, 2014, 12:21:01 AM
fuck your stupid pix. watch the video. Yates won both 96 and 97

fuck them why??.. did i draw them??.. like the videos they show what exactly happened.. the videos say the same thing imo..
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Post by: Alucard on February 24, 2014, 06:17:20 AM
If anything his huge calves as a black man were what made him a freak. The rest of him was big but nothing we haven't seen on others since and better (Zack Khan, Big Ramy, Coleman).
Coleman, in terms of freakiness, is the only one comparable to Dillett, for sure not two overrated oilbags like Zack Khan and Big Ramy, Dillett had far freakier arms, calves, shoulders than both and an infinitely better structure with the craziest shoulders to waist ratio of all time, and he was taller than all of them...
I can't see what's the deal with Mentzer, dude looked average for a pro from his era. Plus, he was fifth, not second, robbed by Arnold lol.
This, Mentzer was also not at his best at the 1980 Olympia, he was dense as usual but near Arnold he looked like a school boy, smooth and no pecs, also the only one on stage with a distended stomach... Arnold dwarfed him and was more conditioned (Arnold was absolutely not smooth, totally the contrary, if anything he overdieted), conditioned size win shows...
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Post by: old-school-lifter on February 25, 2014, 03:09:25 PM
shawn ray robbed int he 94 O
Martinez in the 07 O
Nasser 96, 97 O
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Post by: Teutonic Knight on February 27, 2014, 12:38:14 AM
Anabolichalos old man taking away 'baby mama' from him  ;D