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Title: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: BigCyp on February 26, 2014, 03:30:12 AM
So my wife calls up a company called ABS Preservation UK, to take a look at some rising damp on our exterior wall. The woman she talks to says they will come round a do a 'free quote' for us...

Next day a bloke comes round (I'm at work) and within 10 minutes of taking a look at the problem gives my wife a quote of over a grand to fix it (massively overpriced).

Says thank you very much, we'll call you kind of thing. Next guys from another company comes and quotes £650 for same job so gets the deal (actually at my house doing it now lol)

Sooo.....just got a call from the Mrs to my office "Babe i've just received a quote for nearly £100 for the first guy who says it's a 'survey fee'?" (We actually had a surveyor come from our insurance company weeks ago for free so we didn't even need a survey lol).

I call the guy up, massively pissed off as i've been in 2 hours of traffic this morning! The conversation goes like this "Your secretary said it was a free quotation." "No we don't do free quotes"
 
"Well thats your problem to sort with your staff for giving out shit info"............"Bottom line mate is you need to pay the survey fee within 10 days or it's being reffered to a collections agency/bailiffs bla bla"

Me "No bottom line is mate, you're gonna have to come back to my house yourself and take that fucking 1'er out my pocket yourself you little c u nt"

Guy slams down the phone.

What next getbig??? I'm wondering if my phone provider can give me a transcript of the call to prove their incompentance.......
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: bigmc on February 26, 2014, 03:32:41 AM
you haven't entered into an agreement with them

they are taking the piss

tell them to fuck off or you will report them to watchdog

belligerent aggressiveness in these circumstances is appropriate

good work  8)
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Dr.J on February 26, 2014, 03:33:26 AM
You have a lawyer?
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: BigCyp on February 26, 2014, 03:35:03 AM
You have a lawyer?

Got 2 for when things get nasty. First one has a wedding ring on, the other one just my grandfathers signet ring.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Dr.J on February 26, 2014, 03:38:16 AM
Got 2 for when things get nasty. First one has a wedding ring on, the other one just my grandfathers signet ring.

Have one of them send them a nasty Peter...
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: muscleman-2013 on February 26, 2014, 03:39:17 AM
So my wife calls up a company called ABS Preservation UK, to take a look at some rising damp on our exterior wall. The woman she talks to says they will come round a do a 'free quote' for us...

Next day a bloke comes round (I'm at work) and within 10 minutes of taking a look at the problem gives my wife a quote of over a grand to fix it (massively overpriced).

Says thank you very much, we'll call you kind of thing. Next guys from another company comes and quotes £650 for same job so gets the deal (actually at my house doing it now lol)

Sooo.....just got a call from the Mrs to my office "Babe i've just received a quote for nearly £100 for the first guy who says it's a 'survey fee'?" (We actually had a surveyor come from our insurance company weeks ago for free so we didn't even need a survey lol).

I call the guy up, massively pissed off as i've been in 2 hours of traffic this morning! The conversation goes like this "Your secretary said it was a free quotation." "No we don't do free quotes"
 
"Well thats your problem to sort with your staff for giving out shit info"............"Bottom line mate is you need to pay the survey fee within 10 days or it's being reffered to a collections agency/bailiffs bla bla"

Me "No bottom line is mate, you're gonna have to come back to my house yourself and take that fucking 1'er out my pocket yourself you little c u nt"

Guy slams down the phone.

What next getbig??? I'm wondering if my phone provider can give me a transcript of the call to prove their incompentance.......

Maybe he will accept a blowjob as payment? 
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: JasonH on February 26, 2014, 03:41:16 AM
you haven't entered into an agreement with them

they are taking the piss

tell them to fuck off or you will report them to watchdog

belligerent aggressiveness in these circumstances is appropriate

good work  8)

This.

There's no written agreement. They can't do shit - bailiffs still need paperwork to show the purchaser when they come knocking as evidence that there's a debt for services rendered.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Roger Bacon on February 26, 2014, 03:42:18 AM
Have one of them send them a nasty Peter...

I can't understand British English but I'm a big fan... Extra civilized cussing sounds awesome  ;D

Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: muscleman-2013 on February 26, 2014, 03:42:23 AM
This.

There's no written agreement. They can't do shit - bailiffs still need paperwork to show the purchaser when they come knocking as evidence that there's a debt for services rendered.

BS they can fuck up your credit rating.  welcome to 2014.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: BigCyp on February 26, 2014, 03:42:53 AM
This.

There's no written agreement. They can't do shit - bailiffs still need paperwork to show the purchaser when they come knocking as evidence that there's a debt for services rendered.

Yes cheers mate,

I thought that would be the case - as if baliffs would turn up and say "He said he came round and you never paid him lol"
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: bigmc on February 26, 2014, 03:45:00 AM
BS they can fuck up your credit rating.  welcome to 2014.

so you think they will pursue this for 100 quid

don't be stupid

it isn't worth the negative press it would attract

it only fucks up your credit agreement if they judge against you

there is no way in a million years you could lose this at court
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: BigCyp on February 26, 2014, 04:07:42 AM
so you think they will pursue this for 100 quid

don't be stupid

it isn't worth the negative press it would attract

it only fucks up your credit agreement if they judge against you

there is no way in a million years you could lose this at court

Exactly, I work for a decent size haulage firm and we wouldn't even go to court for less than 1k (unless it was to prove a point etc).
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: sososue on February 26, 2014, 04:16:41 AM
unless you signed something there is no actual evidence they attended your property at all.
Thats the first thing they would have to establish.

If that wasnt the case they could just send random bills to people telling them they owed them £100 for a survey they did when they were out.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: calfzilla on February 26, 2014, 04:28:46 AM
Just have Uncle Junior pay the 100 for you.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: d0nny2600 on February 26, 2014, 05:20:37 AM
So my wife calls up a company called ABS Preservation UK, to take a look at some rising damp on our exterior wall. The woman she talks to says they will come round a do a 'free quote' for us...

Next day a bloke comes round (I'm at work) and within 10 minutes of taking a look at the problem gives my wife a quote of over a grand to fix it (massively overpriced).

Says thank you very much, we'll call you kind of thing. Next guys from another company comes and quotes £650 for same job so gets the deal (actually at my house doing it now lol)

Sooo.....just got a call from the Mrs to my office "Babe i've just received a quote for nearly £100 for the first guy who says it's a 'survey fee'?" (We actually had a surveyor come from our insurance company weeks ago for free so we didn't even need a survey lol).

I call the guy up, massively pissed off as i've been in 2 hours of traffic this morning! The conversation goes like this "Your secretary said it was a free quotation." "No we don't do free quotes"
 
"Well thats your problem to sort with your staff for giving out shit info"............"Bottom line mate is you need to pay the survey fee within 10 days or it's being reffered to a collections agency/bailiffs bla bla"

Me "No bottom line is mate, you're gonna have to come back to my house yourself and take that fucking 1'er out my pocket yourself you little c u nt"

Guy slams down the phone.

What next getbig??? I'm wondering if my phone provider can give me a transcript of the call to prove their incompentance.......
Look up CommonlyKnownAsDom on youtube. He is a bit of a handiquack but knows his stuff about bailiffs.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: sososue on February 26, 2014, 05:22:27 AM
Look up CommonlyKnownAsDom on youtube. He is a bit of a handiquack but knows his stuff about bailiffs.
DONT, KEEP AWAY FROM IDIOTS LIKE HIM, IT MAY ALL END IN TEARS IF YOU START LISTENING TO HIS TOMFOOLERY.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: PJim on February 26, 2014, 05:22:53 AM
Tell the cheeky kunt the money is in the U-Bend
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Mr Nobody on February 26, 2014, 05:27:02 AM
Call Falcon he'll come over and do it cheaper than anyone and you guys can talk about life philosophies.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: dr.chimps on February 26, 2014, 05:27:19 AM
So my wife calls up a company called ABS Preservation UK, to take a look at some rising damp on our exterior wall. The woman she talks to says they will come round a do a 'free quote' for us...

Next day a bloke comes round (I'm at work) and within 10 minutes of taking a look at the problem gives my wife a quote of over a grand to fix it (massively overpriced).

Says thank you very much, we'll call you kind of thing. Next guys from another company comes and quotes £650 for same job so gets the deal (actually at my house doing it now lol)

Sooo.....just got a call from the Mrs to my office "Babe i've just received a quote for nearly £100 for the first guy who says it's a 'survey fee'?" (We actually had a surveyor come from our insurance company weeks ago for free so we didn't even need a survey lol).

I call the guy up, massively pissed off as i've been in 2 hours of traffic this morning! The conversation goes like this "Your secretary said it was a free quotation." "No we don't do free quotes"
 
"Well thats your problem to sort with your staff for giving out shit info"............"Bottom line mate is you need to pay the survey fee within 10 days or it's being reffered to a collections agency/bailiffs bla bla"

Me "No bottom line is mate, you're gonna have to come back to my house yourself and take that fucking 1'er out my pocket yourself you little c u nt"

Guy slams down the phone.

What next getbig??? I'm wondering if my phone provider can give me a transcript of the call to prove their incompentance.......
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Army of One on February 26, 2014, 05:28:30 AM

Me "No bottom line is mate, you're gonna have to come back to my house yourself and take that fucking 1'er out my pocket yourself you little c u nt"


Are you saying that you regularly ask strange men to have a feel down your trousers?hahaha, gayer than Goodrums portfolio
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Skorp1o on February 26, 2014, 05:29:21 AM
So my wife calls up a company called ABS Preservation UK, to take a look at some rising damp on our exterior wall. The woman she talks to says they will come round a do a 'free quote' for us...

Next day a bloke comes round (I'm at work) and within 10 minutes of taking a look at the problem gives my wife a quote of over a grand to fix it (massively overpriced).

Says thank you very much, we'll call you kind of thing. Next guys from another company comes and quotes £650 for same job so gets the deal (actually at my house doing it now lol)

Sooo.....just got a call from the Mrs to my office "Babe i've just received a quote for nearly £100 for the first guy who says it's a 'survey fee'?" (We actually had a surveyor come from our insurance company weeks ago for free so we didn't even need a survey lol).

I call the guy up, massively pissed off as i've been in 2 hours of traffic this morning! The conversation goes like this "Your secretary said it was a free quotation." "No we don't do free quotes"
 
"Well thats your problem to sort with your staff for giving out shit info"............"Bottom line mate is you need to pay the survey fee within 10 days or it's being reffered to a collections agency/bailiffs bla bla"

Me "No bottom line is mate, you're gonna have to come back to my house yourself and take that fucking 1'er out my pocket yourself you little c u nt"

Guy slams down the phone.

What next getbig??? I'm wondering if my phone provider can give me a transcript of the call to prove their incompentance.......

Unless you signed an agreement they cannot enforce the debt. Hence when they send out a letter, write back disputing the monies and ask them to provide you with copies where you agreed for the survery to take place at £100. If they can't provide it they have no leg to stand on.

I did that with a lawyer who charged me 375 quid for a half hour fee which was supposed to be free. Crooks out there all of them, and at times they can screw credit ratings with questionable debts, that's what they use as leverage.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Tapeworm on February 26, 2014, 05:29:35 AM
It's tempting to wreck 'em, I bet.  Report them everywhere from consumer watchdog, to the press, to business registration to have their licence to trade revoked, even the police for attempted fraud.  

In reality, you should probably let it rest unless they push it further.  A lot of the tradies I knew there were outright criminals who had no qualms about violence or wrecking property.  They're probably of that sort if they're willing to try on dodgy shit like this.  You've been clear that you're not paying so I doubt they'll waste any more time on you.

Best to schedule a time for these things when you're around.  Sometimes these kind of blokes just need to see there's a swinging dick around.  (Figuratively.  I don't mean you should actually swing your penis at them.)
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: BigCyp on February 26, 2014, 05:30:00 AM
Lol he told my wife he wanted something in writing, so I emailed this:

"Good afternoon 'Mike',

This morning I received a call from my wife, who was concerned about an invoice for £88 she has received from you in respect of a ‘Free Quotation’ you carried out at my property.

Naturally I told her not to be concerned, as you had no written or verbal agreement with us to carry out a paid survey, and henceforth not a leg to stand on.

I strongly suggest that you make no further contact with us concerning your bogus invoice. If I receive another letter or call from your company, or a collections agency in respect of this, you will be reported to Trading Standards the same day.

Regards



I actually used '    ' for his name in honour of getbig
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Skorp1o on February 26, 2014, 05:31:49 AM
Lol he told my wife he wanted something in writing, so I emailed this:

"Good afternoon 'Mike',

This morning I received a call from my wife, who was concerned about an invoice for £88 she has received from you in respect of a ‘Free Quotation’ you carried out at my property.

Naturally I told her not to be concerned, as you had no written or verbal agreement with us to carry out a paid survey, and henceforth not a leg to stand on.

I strongly suggest that you make no further contact with us concerning your bogus invoice. If I receive another letter or call from your company, or a collections agency in respect of this, you will be reported to Trading Standards the same day.

Regards



I actually used '    ' for his name in honour of getbig


spot on and great writing skills
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Army of One on February 26, 2014, 05:31:56 AM
Lol he told my wife he wanted something in writing, so I emailed this:

"Good afternoon 'Mike',

This morning I received a call from my wife, who was concerned about an invoice for £88 she has received from you in respect of a ‘Free Quotation’ you carried out at my property.

Naturally I told her not to be concerned, as you had no written or verbal agreement with us to carry out a paid survey, and henceforth not a leg to stand on.

I strongly suggest that you make no further contact with us concerning your bogus invoice. If I receive another letter or call from your company, or a collections agency in respect of this, you will be reported to Trading Standards the same day.

Regards



I actually used '    ' for his name in honour of getbig


Just don't pay, fuck them.Also try to get the woman back on the phone but this time record it.Also google the company, chances are you arnt the first they have done this to and others have complained.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: calfzilla on February 26, 2014, 05:33:00 AM
If he gives you any more trouble just post the business name address and phone number here and we'll take care of the rest.  ;)
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: BigCyp on February 26, 2014, 05:35:05 AM
Just don't pay, fuck them.Also try to get the woman back on the phone but this time record it.Also google the company, chances are you arnt the first they have done this to and others have complained.

Lol yes i'll try that over the weekend if I remember, would be funny to call them on my iphone and record her arranging a 'free quotation' then call back the company an hour later and say "Hi i'm calling about a recent invoice, can I pay with this.....(play recording)

Haha maybe if I was Shizzo I would actually do this, but I need my time to lift weights and experience fresh air and stuff like that
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: BigCyp on February 26, 2014, 05:35:48 AM
If he gives you any more trouble just post the business name address and phone number here and we'll take care of the rest.  ;)

Hahaha, maybe i'll ask Josh if he does contract work  ;D
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Tapeworm on February 26, 2014, 05:36:30 AM
Funny stuff man but don't put anything more in writing and don't say anything stupid on the phone.  Just disengage.  If you're still pissed off in 6 months when it's all blown over, you can do something about it then with impunity.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: BigCyp on February 26, 2014, 05:40:22 AM
Funny stuff man but don't put anything more in writing and don't say anything stupid on the phone.  Just disengage.  If you're still pissed off in 6 months when it's all blown over, you can do something about it then with impunity.

Lol, thanks for the sound advice. I'm not really an impulsive guy to be honest I always weigh things up and see the bigger picture....

Ultimately, could it get me in trouble with the law/council or endanger my young family = not going there, suck it up and carry on
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Army of One on February 26, 2014, 05:42:43 AM
Lol, thanks for the sound advice. I'm not really an impulsive guy to be honest I always weigh things up and see the bigger picture....

Ultimately, could it get me in trouble with the law/council or endanger my young family = not going there, suck it up and carry on

Maybe be a good Christian, turn the other cheek, and offer the guy a feel around the other pocket?
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: BigCyp on February 26, 2014, 05:45:04 AM
Maybe be a good Christian, turn the other cheek, and offer the guy a feel around the other pocket?

Yes, how carnal minded of me to fantasise about such wicked behaviour!!! I will visit him at home immediately with a dozen fresh blueberry muffins with bible scriptures on the cake cases and ask for him to do another free quote
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Marty Champions on February 26, 2014, 06:01:42 AM
what is rising damp?

is that like some shit on your siding that needs to be powerwashed?
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Rascal full on February 26, 2014, 06:02:50 AM
BigCyp handling like a boss.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Mr Nobody on February 26, 2014, 06:04:59 AM
what is rising damp?

is that like some shit on your siding that needs to be powerwashed?
You got to watch those contractors, remember that one stating you needed a new sump pump?
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: the trainer on February 26, 2014, 06:05:38 AM
So my wife calls up a company called ABS Preservation UK, to take a look at some rising damp on our exterior wall. The woman she talks to says they will come round a do a 'free quote' for us...

Next day a bloke comes round (I'm at work) and within 10 minutes of taking a look at the problem gives my wife a quote of over a grand to fix it (massively overpriced).

Says thank you very much, we'll call you kind of thing. Next guys from another company comes and quotes £650 for same job so gets the deal (actually at my house doing it now lol)

Sooo.....just got a call from the Mrs to my office "Babe i've just received a quote for nearly £100 for the first guy who says it's a 'survey fee'?" (We actually had a surveyor come from our insurance company weeks ago for free so we didn't even need a survey lol).

I call the guy up, massively pissed off as i've been in 2 hours of traffic this morning! The conversation goes like this "Your secretary said it was a free quotation." "No we don't do free quotes"
 
"Well thats your problem to sort with your staff for giving out shit info"............"Bottom line mate is you need to pay the survey fee within 10 days or it's being reffered to a collections agency/bailiffs bla bla"

Me "No bottom line is mate, you're gonna have to come back to my house yourself and take that fucking 1'er out my pocket yourself you little c u nt"

Guy slams down the phone.

What next getbig??? I'm wondering if my phone provider can give me a transcript of the call to prove their incompentance.......

Use your big muscles for intimidation go over to the guys office and say here i am and i am not paying if you have a problem lets go outside.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Army of One on February 26, 2014, 06:06:59 AM
Use your big muscles for intimidation go over to the guys office and say here i am and i am not paying if you have a problem lets go outside.

"Hampstead Heath, you and me, 10pm, behind the bushes"
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Tapeworm on February 26, 2014, 06:24:03 AM
BigSiss angling all over town for a juicy siloxane injection!
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: JasonH on February 26, 2014, 06:36:47 AM
BS they can fuck up your credit rating.  welcome to 2014.

There's no such thing as a universal "credit rating", not in the UK anyway. Different lenders will provide credit depending on a number of different factors, all particular to their own lending rules. You can obtain credit from one lender for x amount but that doesn't mean another lender will give you the same terms.

An extreme example would be that everyone and their dog can get a payday loan from one of those high-interest lenders (irrespective of whether you've been bankrupt in the past), but not everyone would be able to get a credit card through Coutts (the Queen's bankers). Your suitability for obtaining credit would come out completely different when they run your details through their computers.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on February 26, 2014, 10:02:47 AM
Lol he told my wife he wanted something in writing, so I emailed this:

"Good afternoon 'Mike',

This morning I received a call from my wife, who was concerned about an invoice for £88 she has received from you in respect of a ‘Free Quotation’ you carried out at my property.

Naturally I told her not to be concerned, as you had no written or verbal agreement with us to carry out a paid survey, and henceforth not a leg to stand on.

I strongly suggest that you make no further contact with us concerning your bogus invoice. If I receive another letter or call from your company, or a collections agency in respect of this, you will be reported to Trading Standards the same day.

Regards



I actually used '    ' for his name in honour of getbig


Legend  8)
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Hulkotron on February 26, 2014, 10:03:37 AM
lol, 'Mike' won't recover.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on February 26, 2014, 10:07:20 AM
Nothing is more humiliating then putting another mans name in quotations.

You essentially rob him of all masculinity and self respect.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 26, 2014, 10:48:15 AM
This trick always works.  When he comes over, anally rape him and then take the $100 and shove it up his ass and thank him for his estimate.  Guaranteed he won't ever pull this stunt again
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Army of One on February 26, 2014, 11:44:40 AM
This trick always works.  When he comes over, anally rape him and then take the $100 and shove it up his ass and thank him for his estimate.  Guaranteed he won't ever pull this stunt again

Dude that's just wrong





























































its the UK so it needs to be £100
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: BigCyp on March 05, 2014, 02:01:13 AM
The piece of shit has just emailed me again, with this:

"Can you please confirm when you are making payment to us and your method; i.e. BACS, cheque etc?"

This is very disrespectful, as I made several points about communication problems within his company, and he has ignored and just sent that.

I'm actually pissed off right now

Any ideas?
 
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: sososue on March 05, 2014, 02:05:50 AM
do they have a website?
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: BigCyp on March 05, 2014, 02:12:06 AM
do they have a website?

Yes.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: sososue on March 05, 2014, 02:14:06 AM
found it
E-mail them this

Quote
ABS Preservation UK Ltd Helps with Damp Proofing in Central LondonRising damp/dry rot & wet rot
www.abspreservation.com
Condensation / black mould
Basement tanking
Council approved contractor
Full liability insurance
30 year guarantee
For Free survey please quote FSY

http://www.absbasildon.co.uk/
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: BigCyp on March 05, 2014, 02:16:08 AM
Lol what will it do?
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: ESFitness on March 05, 2014, 02:16:54 AM
So my wife calls up a company called ABS Preservation UK, to take a look at some rising damp on our exterior wall. The woman she talks to says they will come round a do a 'free quote' for us...

Next day a bloke comes round (I'm at work) and within 10 minutes of taking a look at the problem gives my wife a quote of over a grand to fix it (massively overpriced).

Says thank you very much, we'll call you kind of thing. Next guys from another company comes and quotes £650 for same job so gets the deal (actually at my house doing it now lol)

Sooo.....just got a call from the Mrs to my office "Babe i've just received a quote for nearly £100 for the first guy who says it's a 'survey fee'?" (We actually had a surveyor come from our insurance company weeks ago for free so we didn't even need a survey lol).

I call the guy up, massively pissed off as i've been in 2 hours of traffic this morning! The conversation goes like this "Your secretary said it was a free quotation." "No we don't do free quotes"
 
"Well thats your problem to sort with your staff for giving out shit info"............"Bottom line mate is you need to pay the survey fee within 10 days or it's being reffered to a collections agency/bailiffs bla bla"

Me "No bottom line is mate, you're gonna have to come back to my house yourself and take that fucking 1'er out my pocket yourself you little c u nt"

Guy slams down the phone.

What next getbig??? I'm wondering if my phone provider can give me a transcript of the call to prove their incompentance.......

bwahahaha
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: BigCyp on March 05, 2014, 02:18:16 AM
bwahahaha

What are you laughing at fag got?
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: ESFitness on March 05, 2014, 02:22:00 AM
What are you laughing at fag got?


your naiveté
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: sososue on March 05, 2014, 02:22:25 AM
Lol what will it do?
It is evidence that they do indeed undertake free surveys.

I thought thats what you wanted.

Quote
I call the guy up, massively pissed off as i've been in 2 hours of traffic this morning! The conversation goes like this "Your secretary said it was a free quotation." "No we don't do free quotes"

Now if he did say that it wasnt true was it?
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: BigCyp on March 05, 2014, 02:25:39 AM

your naiveté

A convict calling me niaive, priceless.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: BigCyp on March 05, 2014, 02:29:57 AM
Thanks sososue, but on second looks, it must have been a subsiduary company that did the survey, as they are based in Basildon Essex, not East London....Plus it's an London number on the site
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: sososue on March 05, 2014, 02:31:51 AM
Thanks sososue, but on second looks, it must have been a subsiduary company that did the survey, as they are based in Basildon Essex, not East London....Plus it's an London number on the site
Leave it with me. ;)
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: BigCyp on March 05, 2014, 02:32:19 AM
Leave it with me. ;)

Lol.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: sososue on March 05, 2014, 02:33:18 AM
Address: Unit 5 Samson House, Arterial Rd, Basildon, Essex SS15 6DR
Phone:0800 922222
Tel:  01268 208 549
Tel:  01702 417 300

That them?
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: BigCyp on March 05, 2014, 02:36:45 AM
Address: Unit 5 Samson House, Arterial Rd, Basildon, Essex SS15 6DR
Phone:0800 922222
Tel:  01268 208 549
Tel:  01702 417 300

That them?


That's the one
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 05, 2014, 02:39:42 AM
Why do British houses have such nice looking exterior masonry, but weird modern looking windows and doors that never seem to match?

Do windows only come in white in the UK?

 ???
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: bigmc on March 05, 2014, 02:50:32 AM
The piece of shit has just emailed me again, with this:

"Can you please confirm when you are making payment to us and your method; i.e. BACS, cheque etc?"

This is very disrespectful, as I made several points about communication problems within his company, and he has ignored and just sent that.

I'm actually pissed off right now

Any ideas?
 

email them an invoice for using the facilities at your house
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: sososue on March 05, 2014, 02:51:30 AM
That's the one
They are a branch of a larger company, they seem squeaky clean, no history of issues with costomers I can find, I have sourced the company directors details if you want a PM.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: BigCyp on March 05, 2014, 02:58:26 AM
They are a branch of a larger company, they seem squeaky clean, no history of issues with costomers I can find, I have sourced the company directors details if you want a PM.

Thanks for taking the time to do that sue, much appreciated. The bloke who text/emailed me is 'mike' the director so thankfully i'm not dealing with one of his plebs.

This was my last email, and after rereading it, I won't respond to his latest one - as I said I wouldn't:


"I suggest that you have a stern word with the lady who answers your telephone.

The week before my wife called your business we had a full survey carried out for Rising Damp, through our insurance company and a report was produced.

We subsequently called your company, along with several others for a quotation on some damp coursing work. If we were misadvised, and you don’t carry out free quotes, only surveys, then this is something to take up with your staff who have obviously misadvised us.

I’m not going back and forth about this. Unless you have any new information, or can find any paperwork / recorded telephone call in which we agreed to or ordered a survey, then please chalk this up to communication problems within your company.

Unless you want to visit me at my property and ask me for the money face to face, I suggest you do not contact me again.


Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: sososue on March 05, 2014, 03:00:52 AM
To actually prove they visited your property at all they would have to produce evidence of the agreement you made over the phone and that would include the female saying it was a free quote.

I take it without that phone call you could say you have no idea what they are talking about?

Nothing was signed was it?
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: muscleman-2013 on March 05, 2014, 03:00:58 AM


What next getbig??? I'm wondering if my phone provider can give me a transcript of the call to prove their incompentance.......

Dude, just tell them that your are the legendary BigCyp from getbig, that will scare the shit out of them!
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: sososue on March 05, 2014, 03:03:33 AM
Quote
The bloke who text/emailed me is 'mike' the director so thankfully i'm not dealing with one of his plebs.

Its not Mike from Lancaster who rides a motorbike is it?
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: BigCyp on March 05, 2014, 03:04:37 AM
To actually prove they visited your property at all they would have to produce evidence of the agreement you made over the phone and that would include the female saying it was a free quote.

I take it without that phone call you could say you have no idea what they are talking about?

Nothing was signed was it?

No, nothing was signed. My wife called the company, and said "Hi, do you do free quotes for damp proofing?" Not a word more, and the idiot on the phone said "Yes we do, what's your address." That was literally the conversation. The guy comes round next day for 10 minutes, has a look round and then tries to charge me £88 quid or whatever is was!

I'm not poor, but its the principle of it. I take after my Cypriot grandfather Yannis - He would battle with a utility company for them to send him outstanding credit even if it was a few pence, and when they finally gave in and sent it he'd throw the cheque in the bin. It was the principle of it all lol
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Conker on March 05, 2014, 03:24:25 AM
The piece of shit has just emailed me again, with this:

"Can you please confirm when you are making payment to us and your method; i.e. BACS, cheque etc?"

This is very disrespectful, as I made several points about communication problems within his company, and he has ignored and just sent that.

I'm actually pissed off right now

Any ideas?
 


report them to trading standards for attempting to extort money from you for a service they told you was free(as you threatened to to do so if they contacted you again). inform "mike" that you have reported them to trading standards. most companies will not want trading standards sniffing about.

for good measure, under cover of night go and put the windows through in their offices (if you're a bit of a numpty disregard this step, as getting caught doing this will not look good on your record)
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: monstermunch on March 05, 2014, 03:26:43 AM


Haha what a reference  ;D
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Bobby on March 05, 2014, 03:27:57 AM
Good luck in the solving of this, i like the emails you sent, stirm but fair. Good work!

Nothing is more humiliating then putting another mans name in quotations.

You essentially rob him of all masculinity and self respect.

Nothing like it  ;D
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: BigCyp on March 05, 2014, 03:31:42 AM
Good luck in the solving of this, i like the emails you sent, stirm but fair. Good work!

Nothing like it  ;D

Thanks 'Bobby'.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on March 05, 2014, 07:58:41 AM
Good luck in the solving of this, i like the emails you sent, stirm but fair. Good work!

Nothing like it  ;D

Glad 'Bobs4Cocks' decided to interject into this conversation.  ::)  :D
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: BigCyp on March 05, 2014, 08:02:45 AM
Glad 'Bobs4Cocks' decided to interject into this conversation.  ::)  :D

Yes Chiro, having 'BobatitisC' lend us his thoughts was a real treat
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: bigmc on March 05, 2014, 08:04:05 AM
Yes Chiro, having 'BobatitisC' lend us his thoughts was a real treat

yes it appears blowjobby is quite the poster
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on March 05, 2014, 08:05:51 AM
Always a picnic when FloppyCock shows up to increase his post count
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: BigCyp on March 05, 2014, 08:15:48 AM
Thank god for the 29 second rule, could you imagine the sheer mass of posts 'Shakesknobs' could have written along with his complete works
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Tapeworm on March 05, 2014, 09:36:33 AM
Well this seems destined to escalate.  Consider talking to a lawyer before doing anything, even though it'll cost you.  DON'T respond to this guy.  Everytime you do you narrow your options.  For example, you can no longer claim that they didn't turn up at your request, weren't invited into the house, didn't provide an assessment as agreed, etc.  Of course it's bullshit but that's the legal system for you.

Don't go be the vengeful prankster, busting windows and slashing tyres.  It'll only inflame shit.  Circumstances don't call for going outside the bounds of the law at this stage.  If you handle it badly, it could become necessary.  'Mike' sounds like a bit of a miserable bastard with a chip on his shoulder and nothing better to do.  Don't let this guy put a chip on yours.  Your job here is to be rid of the drama, not to twist the knife.

I'd seek legal advice about letting it go to collections if that's how it goes and then refusing the claim as frivolous with someone who isn't taking it personally, or even heading off collections altogether in some way.  It'll cost mikey money to retain a debt collector, so even if he wants to play pitbull a well worded letter from your attorney explaining why he has no case and why continued harrassment is ill advised could help the guy come to his senses (or it'll make him fire back with his own lawyer).  Also legal advice about how and where to report the offence with maximum effect without opening yourself up to charges of slander and such, and how that would benefit your case later if it becomes a knock-down-drag-out.

I know I sound paranoid but this is one of those little things that big things come from.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Bobby on March 05, 2014, 09:44:36 AM
Thanks 'Bobby'.

Glad 'Bobs4Cocks' decided to interject into this conversation.  ::)  :D

Hahaha great work fellas!!  ;D ;D

The funny thing is when you accidentally do this to ppl in real life and they have no idea what the fuck just happened :D
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on March 05, 2014, 02:53:06 PM
Hahaha great work fellas!!  ;D ;D

The funny thing is when you accidentally do this to ppl in real life and they have no idea what the fuck just happened :D

I've incorporated it into my everyday ownings. It's especially a hit with my fraternity brothers. Lots of saying "Ok 'Jeff' " followed by rolling eyes and usually the obligatory jacking off the air hand movement
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: gcb on March 05, 2014, 08:23:31 PM
I wouldn't even be exchanging emails with them either - they can now use your emails as evidence that a survey did happen. Whenever these things happen it is important to create no paper trail in any form. Likely they will just drop it anyway.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: LiftEaTsLeEpRePeAt on March 05, 2014, 08:41:54 PM
So my wife calls up a company called ABS Preservation UK, to take a look at some rising damp on our exterior wall. The woman she talks to says they will come round a do a 'free quote' for us...

Next day a bloke comes round (I'm at work) and within 10 minutes of taking a look at the problem gives my wife a quote of over a grand to fix it (massively overpriced).

Says thank you very much, we'll call you kind of thing. Next guys from another company comes and quotes £650 for same job so gets the deal (actually at my house doing it now lol)

Sooo.....just got a call from the Mrs to my office "Babe i've just received a quote for nearly £100 for the first guy who says it's a 'survey fee'?" (We actually had a surveyor come from our insurance company weeks ago for free so we didn't even need a survey lol).

I call the guy up, massively pissed off as i've been in 2 hours of traffic this morning! The conversation goes like this "Your secretary said it was a free quotation." "No we don't do free quotes"
 
"Well thats your problem to sort with your staff for giving out shit info"............"Bottom line mate is you need to pay the survey fee within 10 days or it's being reffered to a collections agency/bailiffs bla bla"

Me "No bottom line is mate, you're gonna have to come back to my house yourself and take that fucking 1'er out my pocket yourself you little c u nt"

Guy slams down the phone.

What next getbig??? I'm wondering if my phone provider can give me a transcript of the call to prove their incompentance.......
you cant charge for a free quote... tell him to suck a dick.....   
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: BigCyp on March 07, 2014, 01:34:03 AM
Thread update:

The guy came to my house yesterday afternoon, (even though I didn't reply to his last email) thinking that my wife would be home, as she told him I work out of town when he came to do the quote.

I work from home once a week, on thursdays - You should have fucking seen the look on his face when I open the door and say "Can I help you?" (I didn't know it was the guy, unmarked van) He just said "Erm is **** in, she called me about a damp survey" I clocked who the cvnt was and just stared at him, while leaning on the door frame (all 6ft, 235 pounds of me hahahaha) I wanted to say a lot of shit, but thought it would be funny just to stand there and ignore the guy..........after about 10 seconds of awkward silence he goes "sorry I think I got the wrong door mate, sorry to bother you" I didnt say a word just kept looking at him until he got in his van and drove away hahahahahahahaha

I'm guessing thats the end of that. Guy was about 50 y/o ffs

Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 07, 2014, 03:07:23 AM
Thread update:

The guy came to my house yesterday afternoon, (even though I didn't reply to his last email) thinking that my wife would be home, as she told him I work out of town when he came to do the quote.

I work from home once a week, on thursdays - You should have fucking seen the look on his face when I open the door and say "Can I help you?" (I didn't know it was the guy, unmarked van) He just said "Erm is **** in, she called me about a damp survey" I clocked who the girl was and just stared at him, while leaning on the door frame (all 6ft, 235 pounds of me hahahaha) I wanted to say a lot of shit, but thought it would be funny just to stand there and ignore the guy..........after about 10 seconds of awkward silence he goes "sorry I think I got the wrong door mate, sorry to bother you" I didnt say a word just kept looking at him until he got in his van and drove away hahahahahahahaha

I'm guessing thats the end of that. Guy was about 50 y/o ffs



Good job bro, getbig move all the way...

If he does happen to come back, let him find you dressed like this behind the door with an elephant gun;

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9gUK6zX7JHo/US-3mW0nraI/AAAAAAAAEtI/xQMltmbURPE/s1600/jumanji_006.jpg)

Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Tapeworm on March 07, 2014, 03:57:04 AM
Hope he's of the 'better things to do' sort and the hard stare from the doorway will see it ended.  Lots of these guys don't consider things ended even after a stint in hospital or jail.  That's how the crew out of Dartford were that I worked with.

Emailing photos and a description of the problem is a better way to proceed next time around.  No one gets through the door, they don't need more address information than the suburb, and you get a chance to vet them by email and phone before they come around.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: BigCyp on March 07, 2014, 04:38:15 AM
Hope he's of the 'better things to do' sort and the hard stare from the doorway will see it ended.  Lots of these guys don't consider things ended even after a stint in hospital or jail.  That's how the crew out of Dartford were that I worked with.

Emailing photos and a description of the problem is a better way to proceed next time around.  No one gets through the door, they don't need more address information than the suburb, and you get a chance to vet them by email and phone before they come around.

Hopefully that would be the end of it,

Thanks for the pm though, solid advice that I will bear in mind with anything in the future - much appreciate the thought.

I think this cowboy was expecting some young skinny bloke that he could fleece that weekends drink from to be honest, if I hear anything else i'll pay my solicitor to send a letter (he is a family friend so would only charge me a silly amount to do this).
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Tapeworm on March 07, 2014, 05:50:21 AM
Hopefully that would be the end of it,

Thanks for the pm though, solid advice that I will bear in mind with anything in the future - much appreciate the thought.

I think this cowboy was expecting some young skinny bloke that he could fleece that weekends drink from to be honest, if I hear anything else i'll pay my solicitor to send a letter (he is a family friend so would only charge me a silly amount to do this).

Mods, please ban this individual for posting that a PM had been sent.  ;D

He doesn't sound like a guy you'll find leaping out of the bushes but if you get a chance to talk to your bud, maybe check with him about property liens and other nasty tricks.  Some places in the US make it ridiculously easy, and I think they can even be lodged without someone's knowledge.  Your laws are probably more civilized.

If the damp fix doesn't take then shoot me a PM.  I have some no-shit-sherlock suggestions and am good at plaster and paint repairs.  Free quote.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: BigCyp on March 07, 2014, 05:58:57 AM
Mods, please ban this individual for posting that a PM had been sent.  ;D

He doesn't sound like a guy you'll find leaping out of the bushes but if you get a chance to talk to your bud, maybe check with him about property liens and other nasty tricks.  Some places in the US make it ridiculously easy, and I think they can even be lodged without someone's knowledge.  Your laws are probably more civilized.

If the damp fix doesn't take then shoot me a PM.  I have some no-shit-sherlock suggestions and am good at plaster and paint repairs.  Free quote.

Hahaha 'free quote' - message saved for future litigation  ;D

On the damp note, the blokes have done a very thorough job, so this week i'll be re pointing the bottom bricks (as its an old property, a lot of mortar/brick surface got chipped off with the exterior render when they stripped it to find the damp course & inject)

I'm going to repoint the bottom 7 inches of the house, and paint over with a black rubber paint....I'm keeping 2" away from the damp course line, to prevent 'bridging' it, but can I bring the top plaster/render over the damp course (as in from the top of the house downwards) a couple of inches, into a bell curve/drip bead.

Hahaha epic u.k. slang no doubt
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Tapeworm on March 07, 2014, 06:50:22 AM
Hahaha 'free quote' - message saved for future litigation  ;D

On the damp note, the blokes have done a very thorough job, so this week i'll be re pointing the bottom bricks (as its an old property, a lot of mortar/brick surface got chipped off with the exterior render when they stripped it to find the damp course & inject)

I'm going to repoint the bottom 7 inches of the house, and paint over with a black rubber paint....I'm keeping 2" away from the damp course line, to prevent 'bridging' it, but can I bring the top plaster/render over the damp course (as in from the top of the house downwards) a couple of inches, into a bell curve/drip bead.

Hahaha epic u.k. slang no doubt

In all likelihood you've got portland cement mortar and render, but if your place is old enough it may have a straight lime or hydraulic lime mortar and render.  Lots of places in the UK do.  Old bricks were softer than modern ones and portland cement will fail and cause spalling damage, so work out what the existing stuff is before you put new stuff on.  Lime/sand is a PITA and will take weeks instead of hours (just sitting on the wall, not actual working time).  Wet the area thoroughly, then let the water sheen drink in, before applying.  Overly thirsty surfaces/mortar joints are no good.  Jumbo tube calking guns are great for repointing (make sure to rake out loose mortar), but if you're rendering right across there's no need to be clean.

Tbh, I question why they bolstered off the render.  I would have simply drilled and injected, but I've never done a damp fix.  I remember reading something about the molecular size of siloxane vs silicone, and spread through capilary passages in brick & mortar concrete.  It travels like crazy, but there's lots of polymers that get used too, I think, and cost way less than siloxane, so hard to say what they used.  I trust it was injected, not just surface applied.  

I question putting on a bituminous coating.  It'll do as much to seal out moisture as to seal it in.  If water is coming up from the bottom rather than in from the side...idk.  You'll also have bond issues with putting a simple sand/cement or sand/lime render over it, if that's what you mean (tar to pointed brick & render over).

I would use ethylene vinyl acetate in the [appropriate] pointing and render mix at 10% by total mix volume.  It has excellent bond, waterproofing, and rheological (troweling) properties, no shit.  You may see it in the hardware as exterior grade wood glue, abbreviated EVA.  (Don't use interior grade PVA plyvinyl acetate, aka bondcrete, which re-softens with water.)  I'd post you some dry but it's a white powder, lol.  I'd up the % if going over cured rubber paint and test a spot before doing the lot.

More than anything, I'd work out where the water was coming from.  If it's bad gutter fall, a full soakwell, a fucking artesian, etc.  I might also hold off on the full repairs until you can gauge the effectiveness of the damp fix.  If problems persist after you render you'll never know if it's the newly applied render drinking up and feeding through the brick around their fix (clearly it was coming through to the inside?) or the same old brick drinking from whatever source.  And if you're not happy they can do more work without fucking up your new troweling.

Who loves his typing!
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Tapeworm on March 07, 2014, 07:11:05 AM
Tldr: I wouldn't tank the outside of the house with rubber paint.  All masonry is porous and exterior waterproofing will direct water inside rather than letting it evaporate to the outside, which is the principle of masonry construction.  Especially if it's a non-cavity wall, I'd get some second opinions before proceeding.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: BigCyp on March 07, 2014, 07:25:37 AM
Tldr: I wouldn't tank the outside of the house with rubber paint.  All masonry is porous and exterior waterproofing will direct water inside rather than letting it evaporate to the outside, which is the principle of masonry construction.  Especially if it's a non-cavity wall, I'd get some second opinions before proceeding.

Thanks for the detailed post, very handy. I think i'll give the bitumen paint a miss then....makes perfect sense that any moisture coming up through the foundation would be forced into my interior plaster

Re the pointing, i'll be mixing a basic 3:1 sand/cement & waterproofer and sorting out all the holes. After that it will be a render on top so bricks don't need to look pretty.

Maybe i'll get 'Mike' round to do a free survey on my work afterwards  ;D
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 07, 2014, 07:28:15 AM
Would you like me to pay them a visit and talk to them a little? I'll bring Galeniko with me.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on March 07, 2014, 07:48:51 AM
Would you like me to pay them a visit and talk to them a little? I'll bring Galeniko with me.

Wouldn't he want someone muscular as well to go with Galeniko though?
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Tapeworm on March 07, 2014, 07:52:11 AM
Thanks for the detailed post, very handy. I think i'll give the bitumen paint a miss then....makes perfect sense that any moisture coming up through the foundation would be forced into my interior plaster

Re the pointing, i'll be mixing a basic 3:1 sand/cement & waterproofer and sorting out all the holes. After that it will be a render on top so bricks don't need to look pretty.

Maybe i'll get 'Mike' round to do a free survey on my work afterwards  ;D

You could do it all in one go.  Squash it right in to the mortar joints, let it dewater for a few minutes, and then render straight over.  The thickness of the render build will make it more prone to shrinkage cracking than the mortar joints behind.  Some hydrated lime will aid plasticity.  If they left damp treatment on the surface of the brick, I don't know what that'll do to bond.

Plastering is messy.  Mask a lot.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: BigCyp on March 07, 2014, 08:10:52 AM
Wouldn't he want someone muscular as well to go with Galeniko though?

Good point, i'll send round dj181 to scare away all the crows in his front garden and then when 'Mike' runs upstairs to find Gal banging his wife in her favourite stockings, you can jump out the wardrobe with a syringe full of Tbombz blood and force him to call off the invoice
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 07, 2014, 08:18:08 AM
Wouldn't he want someone muscular as well to go with Galeniko though?
You'd pay me compliments in person right now  ;)
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on March 07, 2014, 11:10:38 AM
You'd pay me compliments in person right now  ;)

Haha id buy you a beer and discuss lizards, no doubt.  8)
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Ace on March 07, 2014, 11:20:13 AM
Good point, i'll send round dj181 to scare away all the crows in his front garden and then when 'Mike' runs upstairs to find Gal banging his wife in her favourite stockings, you can jump out the wardrobe with a syringe full of Tbombz blood and force him to call off the invoice

heee heee heee heee

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Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on March 07, 2014, 11:28:49 AM
heee heee heee heee

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SHUTUP.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Ace on March 07, 2014, 11:32:55 AM
SHUTUP.

get fucked
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on March 07, 2014, 11:35:43 AM
get fucked

No need to be rude.
Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: Henda on March 07, 2014, 11:38:19 AM
heee heee heee heee

(http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel//universe3zx/images/9/96/StrawMan.jpg)

heee heee heee ??

What fucking grown man talks like this?





Title: Re: Builder trying to rip me off for a 'free' quotation...any ideas?
Post by: jodsy on March 07, 2014, 11:47:46 AM
obviously not intimidated by your poor physique