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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Neptune100 on February 27, 2014, 03:49:19 PM
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Only reason bodybuilders do cardio is they have too much bodyfat going into a contest and they need to shed in a timely manner. They also lose muscle while doing the cardio.
Optimal muscle retention is to have a clean diet with lots of protein and fat,little carbs and no time table to "peak". Lose fat this way, and retain optimal amount of muscle.
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I will loose muscle from low carbs more than a moderate amount of cardio. I prefer to diet moderate carbs, moderate cardio, lowish fat (50gms max)
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Have you tried low carbs no cardio before?
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yes I have, doesn't work well for me except on a rest day now and then.
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Actually it's to drain water from the high-sodium diets and the retention from the drugs they use to maintain that much size. Losing fat has little to do with it given how most are relatively lean compared to the average permabulker when they start the precontest phase.
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Have you tried low carbs no cardio before?
That just leaves your muscles flat and makes you tired. You get far better results using carbs and doing cardio.
Low carb is a fad.
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nah ro is right.
carbs spare the muscle., theres no question.
but fastest way to get shredded and making noe enemies,as in , dont care if some muscle goes away, is the low carb stuff.
Have you tried low carbs no cardio before?
hey dont be a fucking idiot, do you realize youre talking beginners stuff to a heavy weight competitor(bigro)
hes been places.
my fucking goodness the ppl here are hilarious
Actually it's to drain water from the high-sodium diets and the retention from the drugs they use to maintain that much size. Losing fat has little to do with it given how most are relatively lean compared to the average permabulker when they start the precontest phase.
nah cardio is very efficient way to burn fat.
the water under skin is hardly affected by it.
to get rid of that water a plain workout will be better.
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nah ro is right.
carbs spare the muscle., theres no question.
but fastest way to get shredded and making noe enemies,as in , dont care if some muscle goes away, is the low carb stuff.
hey dont be a fucking idiot, do you realize youre talking beginners stuff to a heavy weight competitor(bigro)
hes been places.
my fucking goodness the ppl here are hilarious
nah cardio is very efficient way to burn fat.
the water under skin is hardly affected by it.
to get rid of that water a plain workout will be better.
It does work to burn fat, but they don't have that much to lose. At least not the ones who watched their waistline all year, like Cutler and Dexter used to.
The biggest change for me is the change of water level. Their vascularity is the most obvious aspect. Think of lean natties or even lean guys on gear at the gym. Most are watery, bloated sacks of shit.
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depends on your body type, ecto meso no problem, endo meso need cardio.
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If I could turn back the hands of time I would have done cardio from day one. I feel amazing, healthy as ever, jacked, and can run 10 miles. That's where I want to be
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Using a cyclic ketogenic diet works extremely well for me, and I see far better results than keeping my carbs moderate and doing cardio. I also prefer it over cardio cause it doesn't waste as much time. You lose lots of hours doing cardio.
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Using a cyclic ketogenic diet works extremely well for me, and I see far better results than keeping my carbs moderate and doing cardio. I also prefer it over cardio cause it doesn't waste as much time. You lose lots of hours doing cardio.
You keep more muscle with carb cycling than keto cycling
and the problem is a lot of people can't load up on carbs responsibly anyway, they get so bloated and full during the loading phase that they lose interest in going keto again
not to mention, most people have so much fat to lose that they'd only benefit from being carb-free full time
which means being flat and tired
nah
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I know on paper 30 minutes of cardio doesn't burn a lot of fat... but I find a few sessions a week really help keep the numbers on the scale dropping and it gives a better look in the mirror while dieting.
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You keep more muscle with carb cycling than keto cycling
and the problem is a lot of people can't load up on carbs responsibly anyway, they get so bloated and full during the loading phase that they lose interest in going keto again
not to mention, most people have so much fat to lose that they'd only benefit from being carb-free full time
which means being flat and tired
nah
cyclic ketogenic and carb cycling are basically the same thing unless I'm mistaken
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cyclic ketogenic and carb cycling are basically the same thing unless I'm mistaken
No, they're not. Keto cycling is keto with a weekend load... and adjusting carbs on a daily basis is...setting low-medium-high days without ever going into ketogenic levels.
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I know on paper 30 minutes of cardio doesn't burn a lot of fat... but I find a few sessions a week really help keep the numbers on the scale dropping and it gives a better look in the mirror while dieting.
Right
because it drains water like crazy
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I know on paper 30 minutes of cardio doesn't burn a lot of fat... but I find a few sessions a week really help keep the numbers on the scale dropping and give a better look in the mirror while dieting.
30 minutes a few times a week = 1 1/2-2hours of cardio. If you do cardio you have to throw on clothes, take a shower, drive to gym or wherever. More time. It's not as convenient and less efficient.
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No, they're not. Keto cycling is keto with a weekend load... and adjusting carbs on a daily basis is...setting low-medium-high days without ever going into ketogenic levels.
Tomato, Tamoto
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Tomato, Tamoto
No.
Keto is Keto.
And cycling is cycling.
That's like saying using different amounts of testosterone 7 days a week is the same as using none for 6 days and then backloading it before the week starts over. Would hardly have the same effect physically.
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No.
Keto is Keto.
And cycling is cycling.
That's like saying using different amounts of testosterone 7 days a week is the same as using none for 6 days and then backloading it before the week starts over. Would hardly have the same effect physically.
keto does not mean 0. it could be 150(high), 100, 50.
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keto does not mean 0. it could be 150(high), 100, 50.
Actually it's less than 100 and generally under 50. 150? no wayyyyyyyyyyyyy
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if you're using more than 10 carbs a day, you're doing it wrong. ;)
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if you're using more than 10 carbs a day, you're doing it wrong. ;)
holy shit no way lol. My best days are about 50. Today I needed around 100 since it is getting late in the rotation.
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holy shit no way lol. My best days are about 50. Today I needed around 100 since it is getting late in the rotation.
If you do cardio, then I get it
but I lifted weights 4-5 days a week on 10-15 carbs for a month, and lost a solid 30lbs
10 of it water, admittedly
but to do that longterm?
nah, can't
didn't sleep more than 2hrs a night
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I know on paper 30 minutes of cardio doesn't burn a lot of fat... but I find a few sessions a week really help keep the numbers on the scale dropping and it gives a better look in the mirror while dieting.
Amazingly.... I agree.
I find having carbs and doing cardio looks better, feels bettwr,and is better mentally that no\low carb.
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Amazingly.... I agree.
I find having carbs and doing cardio looks better, feels bettwr,and is better mentally that no\low carb.
not to mention the workouts are sick
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not to mention the workouts are sick
Yeah plus you actually get a pump.
Good luck getting a pump after 2 weeks of keto.
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not to mention the workouts are sick
much better workouts. More energy, feel better, better mind/muscle connection, better pumps..... I feel like low carb is like driving your car with the fuel system restricted... yeah, youll get there, and youll be the most fuel efficient, but the car isnt running well and is suffering as a result of the lack of fuel.
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much better workouts. More energy, feel better, better mind/muscle connection, better pumps..... I feel like low carb is like driving your car with the fuel system restricted... yeah, youll get there, and youll be the most fuel efficient, but the car isnt running well and is suffering as a result of the lack of fuel.
Exactly. You'll save gas but it'll take you much longer to get to the end of the road. And you might hit a few potholes by then and spin out over a bridge ;-)
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I find the low/medium carb, very high protein works best for me. And my "cardio" consists of more like "conditioning" work like tabatas (outed) or HIIT. Weights x 4/week, conditioning x 2/week.
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much better workouts. More energy, feel better, better mind/muscle connection, better pumps..... I feel like low carb is like driving your car with the fuel system restricted... yeah, youll get there, and youll be the most fuel efficient, but the car isnt running well and is suffering as a result of the lack of fuel.
good analogy.
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I find the low/medium carb, very high protein works best for me. And my "cardio" consists of more like "conditioning" work like tabatas (outed) or HIIT. Weights x 4/week, conditioning x 2/week.
Same. But a high carb day is needed for a particularly heavy-duty leg or back day. After that I go low again for 3-4 days. And my "low" days resemble a high Keto day. I find manipulating your body's glycogen intake stimulates fat-burning more than keeping it perpetually deprived of it.
Cardio, I've tried two methods: The extreme high difficulty kind for 30-45 minutes, with calorie readouts of approx. 700-900 per workout
and the low-intensity, "classic" bodybuilder method of 45-60 minutes with an HR in the 110-120 zone and gradual sweating.
I find both work well but the latter allows me more energy for my later muscle workout. On the other hand, the results are much slower. Nothing gets you shredded as fast as busting out on the stairclimber for a high-energy workout.
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Saved that pic, sorry Nep ;)
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youre quick. I look great, no?
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youre quick. I look great, no?
Like a young Dorian. ;)
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/100/images/Dorian_Yates_photo50.jpg)
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Here you go.
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same abdominal structure as Dorian
srs
'mirin
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One more. All cyclic keto, no cardio. Nah thats a lie there is cardio.
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One more.
Weight and height?
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thick as fuark
can't be natty though
respect tho 8)
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thick as fuark
can't be natty though
respect tho 8)
dude come on.
Seriously, creatine, pre workout and cyclic keto. 1 hour of cardio a week. No bullshit. Thanks for the compliment though.
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dude come on.
Seriously, creatine, pre workout and cyclic keto. 1 hour of cardio a week. No bullshit. Thanks for the compliment though.
Well most people with that level of conditioning who are natural don't have big arms or much of a chest or back
unless they're black
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Well most people with that level of conditioning who are natural don't have big arms or much of a chest or back
unless they're black
actually I focused on my back hard for about 8 month and brought it up big time doing weighted pullups, bent over rows and deads. Ill try and update a pic later.
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Some srs resemblence to young Doz.
all he needs now is black socks.
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One more. All cyclic keto, no cardio. Nah thats a lie there is cardio.
You look great.
However cardio works the most important muscle of all.....the heart.
Yes....I am well aware that weight lifting can work the heart as well.....but rarely to the same extent as just plain ol cardio.
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One more. All cyclic keto, no cardio. Nah thats a lie there is cardio.
2 thumbs up.
Weight and height?
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You look great.
However cardio works the most important muscle of all.....the heart.
Yes....I am well aware that weight lifting can work the heart as well.....but rarely to the same extent as just plain ol cardio.
most 'normal' people don't do cardio or diet and they live to be 78-90 with meds
so
that's specious
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One more. All cyclic keto, no cardio. Nah thats a lie there is cardio.
I'm guessing your height is around 5'5" ?
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I'm guessing your height is around 5'5" ?
5'10-210
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This bitch claims to be doing the cyclical keto diet as well.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-gSRpsPT0fas/UaS4JSdNJ2I/AAAAAAAAArE/L8a8kfHkx3U/s1600/image.jpeg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/--P2wmME2p18/UaSgw1E3BhI/AAAAAAAAAq0/PSL8tMRPd9U/s1600/image+(8).jpeg)
http://www.melissasarahwee.com/2013/05/the-cyclical-ketogenic-diet.html (http://www.melissasarahwee.com/2013/05/the-cyclical-ketogenic-diet.html)
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She should leave the hat on.
LMAO!
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One more. All cyclic keto, no cardio. Nah thats a lie there is cardio.
Hahahaha. I love the way you snuck that in.
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LMAO!
Do you get your Black hair straightened or do you leave it coiled up
just wondering
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With those of you doing keto.....how many vegetables do you intake if any? Fibrous.....not starchy ones.
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i see fat ppl
(http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab297/starscream28/20130922_050447_zpsf6d7e481.jpg) (http://s873.photobucket.com/user/starscream28/media/20130922_050447_zpsf6d7e481.jpg.html)
(http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab297/starscream28/20131001_221027_zps8dc17606.jpg) (http://s873.photobucket.com/user/starscream28/media/20131001_221027_zps8dc17606.jpg.html)
(http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab297/starscream28/20130930_050004_1_zpscb425786.jpg) (http://s873.photobucket.com/user/starscream28/media/20130930_050004_1_zpscb425786.jpg.html)
(http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab297/starscream28/Foto-0004_zps18a9e289.jpg) (http://s873.photobucket.com/user/starscream28/media/Foto-0004_zps18a9e289.jpg.html)
(http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab297/starscream28/20130924_053507_zps69036ef1.jpg) (http://s873.photobucket.com/user/starscream28/media/20130924_053507_zps69036ef1.jpg.html)
any diet questions, fatties? ;D
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i see fat ppl
(http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab297/starscream28/20130922_050447_zpsf6d7e481.jpg) (http://s873.photobucket.com/user/starscream28/media/20130922_050447_zpsf6d7e481.jpg.html)
(http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab297/starscream28/20131001_221027_zps8dc17606.jpg) (http://s873.photobucket.com/user/starscream28/media/20131001_221027_zps8dc17606.jpg.html)
(http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab297/starscream28/20130930_050004_1_zpscb425786.jpg) (http://s873.photobucket.com/user/starscream28/media/20130930_050004_1_zpscb425786.jpg.html)
(http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab297/starscream28/Foto-0004_zps18a9e289.jpg) (http://s873.photobucket.com/user/starscream28/media/Foto-0004_zps18a9e289.jpg.html)
(http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab297/starscream28/20130924_053507_zps69036ef1.jpg) (http://s873.photobucket.com/user/starscream28/media/20130924_053507_zps69036ef1.jpg.html)
any diet questions, fatties? ;D
Yes, what is your current diet and how does it stack up to you old diets?
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i see fat ppl
(http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab297/starscream28/20130922_050447_zpsf6d7e481.jpg) (http://s873.photobucket.com/user/starscream28/media/20130922_050447_zpsf6d7e481.jpg.html)
(http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab297/starscream28/20131001_221027_zps8dc17606.jpg) (http://s873.photobucket.com/user/starscream28/media/20131001_221027_zps8dc17606.jpg.html)
(http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab297/starscream28/20130930_050004_1_zpscb425786.jpg) (http://s873.photobucket.com/user/starscream28/media/20130930_050004_1_zpscb425786.jpg.html)
(http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab297/starscream28/Foto-0004_zps18a9e289.jpg) (http://s873.photobucket.com/user/starscream28/media/Foto-0004_zps18a9e289.jpg.html)
(http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab297/starscream28/20130924_053507_zps69036ef1.jpg) (http://s873.photobucket.com/user/starscream28/media/20130924_053507_zps69036ef1.jpg.html)
any diet questions, fatties? ;D
Now you're being an asshole like when BigRo posted that pic of his arm and derailed Anabolichalo's thread ;)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=513882.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=513882.0)
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Surprising lack of a bald spot at the crown of gal's head in the first pic
was expecting rapid thinning process
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Do you get your Black hair straightened or do you leave it coiled up
just wondering
Well the thing is, I have like 3 different textures of hair so its a pain to deal with but on the other hand, its quite thin for Black hair when straightened, unappealingly so, so I prefer to leave it fluffy. I look real good in an afro actually ;)
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Well the thing is, I have like 3 different textures of hair so its a pain to deal with but on the other hand, its quite thin for Black hair when straightened, unappealingly so, so I prefer to leave it fluffy. I look real good in an afro actually ;)
Black hair is so good at looking dense, even when it isn't
and low maintenance
wish my hair stood in place all day
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Yes, what is your current diet and how does it stack up to you old diets?
diffrence, a meal before workout, hate to do it, but has to be.when i wake up, after a piss, looks unreal shredded,almost scary.
then comes the meal instead of going starved to the gym and boom that condition is gone.
other than that, calories are very slightly up, the big refeeds i dont do nomore, i keep them at 2-3k cals at most if i do them.
50gramms less protein daily, replacing that with carbs.result is less thickness, not necesarily less sharpness.
a litle bit mass has faded away since protein reduction, and i feel the cortisol is very very shit for al this.the sides are unpleasant.
the biggest difference is training starved vs a meal before.but i knew this all along.
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diffrence, a meal before workout, hate to do it, but has to be.when i wake up, after a piss, looks unreal shredded,almost scary.
then comes the meal instead of going starved to the gym and boom that condition is gone.
other than that, calories are very slightly up, the big refeeds i dont do nomore, i keep them at 2-3k cals at most if i do them.
50gramms less protein daily, replacing that with carbs.result is less thickness, not necesarily less sharpness.
a litle bit mass has faded away since protein reduction, and i feel the cortisol is very very shit for al this.the sides are unpleasant.
the biggest difference is training starved vs a meal before.but i knew this all along.
So are you still eating next to no carbs, or are your eating carbs + the extra carbs that replaced your protein? And did you change you hormones around at all since the kidney ordeal?
Im just curious since It seems to me you were a zero carb believer, so im wondering how substantially upped your carb intake has been compared to no carbs and the difference you see in your physique, and is part of it hormone reltaed?
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I bet gal could be natural and still keep 8%. Just wouldn't be as dry or muscular.
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So are you still eating next to no carbs, or are your eating carbs + the extra carbs that replaced your protein? And did you change you hormones around at all since the kidney ordeal?
Im just curious since It seems to me you were a zero carb believer, so im wondering how substantially upped your carb intake has been compared to no carbs and the difference you see in your physique, and is part of it hormone reltaed?
nah all changes there are ,are basicaly diet related, holing water at different times of the day,and that cortisol has some bad effects no doubt.
the carbs are ,uhm, i cycle them 50-100g daily is minimum, so yeah thats 50-100gr more carbs than previous.i do anythin between 50-300gr daily now, no order, when more depleted, i eat more of them etc.im good at feeling that out.
another difference is,well, what i used to do, was basiclay what a competititor does on competition day, they drink no water.i used to have a sip of coffee and boom off to the gym, then wait with eating as long i could.this is basicaly did every day, dont do that nomore.
yah i went entirely off for a bit
I bet gal could be natural and still keep 8%. Just wouldn't be as dry or muscular.
ican keep 6% no problemo natty
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Dang gal working out with no water and you don't compete?
This isn't a jab but that sounds like a disorder of some sort.
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nah all changes there are ,are basicaly diet related, holing water at different times of the day,and that cortisol has some bad effects no doubt.
the carbs are ,uhm, i cycle them 50-100g daily is minimum, so yeah thats 50-100gr more carbs than previous.i do anythin between 50-300gr daily now, no order, when more depleted, i eat more of them etc.im good at feeling that out.
another difference is,well, what i used to do, was basiclay what a competititor does on competition day, they drink no water.i used to have a sip of coffee and boom off to the gym, then wait with eating as long i could.this is basicaly did every day, dont do that nomore.
yah i went entirely off for a bit
ican keep 6% no problemo natty
traitor
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Zero cardio....
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Zero cardio....
id have never guessed your manlet stature from that pic Joe. Your structure makes you look so much taller when lean.
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id have never guessed your manlet stature from that pic Joe. Your structure makes you look so much taller when lean.
Deceptive angle - taken from the ground up. It's used in movies all the time with short actors.
Cutler likes to be taped from the small of the back upwards for the same reason. They do it with WWE wrestlers too, to make it seem like their head is touching the ceilings.
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Deceptive angle - taken from the ground up. It's used in movies all the time with short actors.
Cutler likes to be taped from the small of the back upwards for the same reason. They do it with WWE wrestlers too, to make it seem like their head is touching the ceilings.
It's bodybuilding photo taken by one of the most respected photographers in bodybuilding at that time.
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It's bodybuilding photo taken by one of the most respected photographers in bodybuilding at that time.
cool dude
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vegetable carbs(greens) n intense weight training gets me lean, i get mad cardio from rolling around in no-gi jitz classes. i agree tho that diet is key n cardio is really not needed as far as getting super lean
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Fat bastards tend to blame the appalling state of their physiques on a lack of cardio which they can't do because of an alleged injury.
"I can't exercise because of my knee!"
Yeah, that's the problem. ;)
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Here you go.
Epic taking pictures in the janitors closet.
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This thread should be a conversation between two new joiners at the gym, while they work in sets of barbell curls in the squat rack and sip on their second lucozade of the hour.
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This thread should be a conversation between two new joiners janitors at the gym, while they work in sets of barbell curls in the squat rack and sip on their second lucozade of the hour.
Fixed
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This thread should be a conversation between two new joiners at the gym, while they work in sets of barbell curls in the squat rack and sip on their second lucozade of the hour.
Ha! Total Brit crap. Reminds me to get another lemon squash. ;D
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Fuck Cardio. Who needs a healthy heart anyways ::)
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Fuck Cardio. Who needs a healthy heart anyways ::)
Talking about for fat burning purposes. Intense weight training has more benefits for healthy heart than cardio. But if someone likes "cardio", then by all means.
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Calorie restriction and weight training is all that's needed to get ripped at any age.
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Talking about for fat burning purposes. Intense weight training has more benefits for healthy heart than cardio. But if someone likes "cardio", then by all means.
really? Thats intredasting to me.
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Calorie restriction and weight training is all that's needed to get ripped at any age.
It's not just calorie restriction. That would be too easy. 2000 calories of snickers bars isn't equivalent to 2000k of chicken, beef, fish, eggs, veggies, fruits, etc....
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Also: creating a 500 calorie deficit through diet and the same through cardio isn't the same for fat-burning.
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two things are needed if avoiding cardio, well maybe 3.
1. Lower calorie intake than daily requirements
2. Time, lots of time
3. If needed is some supplements, ECA, T3 etc...
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two things are needed if avoiding cardio, well maybe 3.
1. Lower calorie intake than daily requirements
2. Time, lots of time
3. If needed is some supplements, ECA, T3 etc...
In most cases, simply dieting at a deficit and lift weights isn't enough to achieve the kind of conditioning galeniko or neptune showed in their pictures. Again, naturally high thyroid activity will be the key here for those who can ignore cardio and have a hardbody. But the corollary is those types of people also find their ability to gain and maintain muscle naturally is extremely limited, which gives them that characteristic flat, undefined lean look we associate with pure ectomorphs. For everyone else, you'll hit a plateau, which is usually in the 12-15% range. To get below that, it takes pharmaceutical supplementation that forces the body to burn supplemental fat reserves, or it takes cardio on top of the dieting/training. It's not really a secret, being and staying lean requires a full-time commitment. Like gal said, his lines disappear and reappear based on something as basic as a salted meal.
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Talking about for fat burning purposes. Intense weight training has more benefits for healthy heart than cardio. But if someone likes "cardio", then by all means.
Haha no it doesn't. There's no substitute for steady-state cardio in terms of heart health. For fat loss, I'll agree, it's not strictly necessary
But any cardiologist will tell you you're wrong.....and I'm sure you're gonna respond saying that you know better than them
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Talking about for fat burning purposes. Intense weight training has more benefits for healthy heart than cardio. But if someone likes "cardio", then by all means.
Oh brother what a vague statement. ::)
One could consider intense weight training cardio depending. You'll have to elaborate on exactly what this "intense" weight training is. I'm assuming heavy and non stop but I really don't know what you mean. As long as you're out of breath while lifting.....you can consider that cardio.
You will also see girls in the gym using 2 pound dumbells lifting up and down as fast as they can....cardio. In their minds weight training.
Yes one can get lean with little to no cardio. There is no disputing that. But for general health working out the heart is essential.
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I prefer eating lof of protein,carbs and low fat with having a lot of cheat meals and training as often as I can twice a day
I don't even feel like I am dieting as 2 days per week I eat whatever the fuck I want
I get as lean as when I watched what I ate more and trained only once a day
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Oh brother what a vague statement. ::)
One could consider intense weight training cardio depending. You'll have to elaborate on exactly what this "intense" weight training is. I'm assuming heavy and non stop but I really don't know what you mean. As long as you're out of breath while lifting.....you can consider that cardio.
You will also see girls in the gym using 2 pound dumbells lifting up and down as fast as they can....cardio. In their minds weight training.
Yes one can get lean with little to no cardio. There is no disputing that. But for general health working out the heart is essential.
No it wouldn't.. See "aerobic energy system". Get back to me on that.
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Oh brother what a vague statement. ::)
One could consider intense weight training cardio depending. You'll have to elaborate on exactly what this "intense" weight training is. I'm assuming heavy and non stop but I really don't know what you mean. As long as you're out of breath while lifting.....you can consider that cardio.
You will also see girls in the gym using 2 pound dumbells lifting up and down as fast as they can....cardio. In their minds weight training.
Yes one can get lean with little to no cardio. There is no disputing that. But for general health working out the heart is essential.
Are you saying that getting your medical advice from "The Coach" may be ill-advised?
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Oh brother what a vague statement. ::)
One could consider intense weight training cardio depending. You'll have to elaborate on exactly what this "intense" weight training is. I'm assuming heavy and non stop but I really don't know what you mean. As long as you're out of breath while lifting.....you can consider that cardio.
You will also see girls in the gym using 2 pound dumbells lifting up and down as fast as they can....cardio. In their minds weight training.
Yes one can get lean with little to no cardio. There is no disputing that. But for general health working out the heart is essential.
No, that's not what I meant at all. Are you saying when you weight train, you're not working out the heart? Just want to be clear on that.
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Why do these threads always turn into Guru type "I know best" threads?
If one size fit all, why isn't there just one size made?
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Why do these threads always turn into Guru type "I know best" threads?
If one size fit all, why isn't there just one size made?
Not a guru. I spend a lot of time on research. Plus, I've been doing this forever.
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5'10-210-natural at around 10% bodyfat. In your face. Not the best definitely not the worst. Low carbs all day.
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Skipping the cardio and calling oneself an athlete goes hand in hand. ::)
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5'10-210-natural at around 10% bodyfat. In your face. Not the best definitely not the worst. Low carbs all day.
Low carbs, little cardio, whereas lots of people waste hours and hours at gym doing cardio to cut, no calorie deficit, and best part is I grow well from this.
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good build.. neprune
i am an advocate of cardio but in a non hamster way..playing sports a few hours a week