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Not many other pro's would've been able to resist that temptation (given the disparity between his thighs & lower leg).
Top guys like Wheeler and Cutler proved that they weren't above using oil. I give Wolf credit for having good judgement and not using synthol.
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Not many other pro's would've been able to resist that temptation (given the disparity between his thighs & lower leg).
Top guys like Wheeler and Cutler proved that they weren't above using oil. I give Wolf credit for having good judgement and not using synthol.
He would need something to inject into.
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Not sure why Wolf gets so much crap for not having calves when Ronnie and Dexter didn't have them. Maybe it's because he's white?
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To think this man won the Olympia in this condition boggles the mind completely...Total Oil bag with extra smashed assholes. Does this man even have 18" arms without oil? lol..
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And this man took 5th...Lol What in the fuck?
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/1883/1274/d/o2007menpre-0151191937445.jpg)
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He would if he could. Like Simple Simon said, there's nothing to inject into.
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Not sure why Wolf gets so much crap for not having calves when Ronnie and Dexter didn't have them. Maybe it's because he's white?
This.
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Not sure why Wolf gets so much crap for not having calves when Ronnie and Dexter didn't have them. Maybe it's because he's white?
Ronnie and Dex actually have calves...Wolf's have wasted away...they are pathetic, it's like he has something wrong with them...they are really "high calves" per se, one is slightly bigger than the other...When you have guys like Dex who if put side by side with Wolf seem to have bigger calve muscles than Wolf.
If Wolf would have injected his calves it would have been too obvious...because he has always been lacking in that area, it's just that they have gotten worse each yr.
*Also, in one of Ronnie's vids he was training calves on a seated calf machine, he was doing that bouncy movement with heavy weight. The black dudes that I have seen with great calves (that are high) do slow controlled movements with light weight and high reps.
One guy, all he did was climb stadium steps.
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How come he looked way wider back then? Can one lose width with time?
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/1883/1274/d/o2007menpre-0151191937445.jpg) (http://www.team-andro.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/191053/normal_DSC_1820_ergebnis~2.JPG)
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Ronnie and Dex actually have calves...Wolf's have wasted away...they are pathetic, it's like he has something wrong with them...they are really "high calves" per se, one is slightly bigger than the other...When you have guys like Dex who if put side by side with Wolf seem to have bigger calve muscles than Wolf.
If Wolf would have injected his calves it would have been too obvious...because he has always been lacking in that area, it's just that they have gotten worse each yr.
*Also, in one of Ronnie's vids he was training calves on a seated calf machine, he was doing that bouncy movement with heavy weight. The black dudes that I have seen with great calves (that are high) do slow controlled movements with light weight and high reps.
One guy, all he did was climb stadium steps.
Yes u should contact Ronnie and show him how to do calves , that way he can make a come back and have incredible calves this time around
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I give him props for not being a diva or grapefruit fucker.
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How come he looked way wider back then? Can one lose width with time?
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/1883/1274/d/o2007menpre-0151191937445.jpg) (http://www.team-andro.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/191053/normal_DSC_1820_ergebnis~2.JPG)
His hair receded a lot
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I would venture to say that injecting his calves is exactly what has caused the atrophy.......he has hit a nerve causing damage to the entire area
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Wow, his calves have completely disappeared since 2007. What causes this?
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Yes u should contact Ronnie and show him how to do calves , that way he can make a come back and have incredible calves this time around
I knew someone would say that...I thought it was odd. One of the first mags I bought as kid was Shawn Ray talking about training calves. And he said (ghost written) that you don't do the bouncy movement. Slow, and controlled. And you know what? His calves are better than Ronnie's.
In Ronnie's vid, it was like calves were an afterthought...like "bam, bam, bam I'm done"
Not like his other body parts. I think it was The Unbelievable" vid.
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I wonder what the weight difference between 2007 & 2014 was. Probably not much, but he appears to have lost some fullness as he tried to get more ripped. But he is still massive.
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I knew someone would say that...I thought it was odd. One of the first mags I bought as kid was Shawn Ray talking about training calves. And he said (ghost written) that you don't do the bouncy movement. Slow, and controlled. And you know what? His calves are better than Ronnie's.
In Ronnie's vid, it was like calves were an afterthought...like "bam, bam, bam I'm done"
Not like his other body parts. I think it was The Unbelievable" vid.
I think Ronnie was physically shot after doing 600lb front squats, 800lb back squats, & 2300lb leg presses
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I knew someone would say that...I thought it was odd. One of the first mags I bought as kid was Shawn Ray talking about training calves. And he said (ghost written) that you don't do the bouncy movement. Slow, and controlled. And you know what? His calves are better than Ronnie's.
In Ronnie's vid, it was like calves were an afterthought...like "bam, bam, bam I'm done"
Not like his other body parts. I think it was The Unbelievable" vid.
How you do your calves has almost zero to do with their development. You either have them or you don't.
You also mentioned Dexter. Do you know how much shit he injected into them? You're not a stupid guy but you don't seem to know much about a few important aspects of the game.
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2304081&stc=1&d=1265390933)
Oily vs less so
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2499071&stc=1&d=1275642275)
(http://www.bodybuilders.gr/competitions/2013/australian-pro/prejudging/australian_pro_2013_dexter_jackson_2.jpg)
Wolf's have wasted away...they are pathetic, it's like he has something wrong with them...
Of course there's something wrong with them. Seriously wrong. It's nerve damage, whether due to damage from injections or a pinched nerve somewhere.
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How you do your calves has almost zero to do with their development. You either have them or you don't.
This. Some of the guys with the best calves in the business barely ever trained them.
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Calves are largely genetic.
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But Honestly, Wolfs calves don't even stick out in that Line-Up. The calves of the others aren't bigger lol
http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/eccc8dbfa0d0a2671cdf/prejudging-1st-callout-arnold-classic-2014
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How come he looked way wider back then? Can one lose width with time?
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/1883/1274/d/o2007menpre-0151191937445.jpg) (http://www.team-andro.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/191053/normal_DSC_1820_ergebnis~2.JPG)
I love Wolf (not much homo) but he's never looked as good and certainly never looked better than the 2007 Olympia.
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But Honestly, Wolfs calves don't even stick out in that Line-Up. The calves of the others aren't bigger lol
http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/eccc8dbfa0d0a2671cdf/prejudging-1st-callout-arnold-classic-2014
You sir, are correct! the only person up there with a hint of calf development is the only other caucasional on the stage (don't know his name). And Dennis walks all over the rest of the competitors in that video. All of them. He clearly deserved the win.
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But Honestly, Wolfs calves don't even stick out in that Line-Up. The calves of the others aren't bigger lol
http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/eccc8dbfa0d0a2671cdf/prejudging-1st-callout-arnold-classic-2014
Here is the rub, Wolf is 270-280ish correct? Which means they should stick out. Problem is, one of his calves is straight up and down, and the other is a small bump.
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Here is the rub, Wolf is 270-280ish correct? Which means they should stick out. Problem is, one of his calves is straight up and down, and the other is a small bump.
The only thing that's gonna stick out on most of these guys is their gut. Sad but true. Wolf was the best this day. It would be nice if he had calves. It would be nice if they all did.
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Wow, his calves have completely disappeared since 2007. What causes this?
His body doesn't respond to the drugs by growing anymore. He peaked 7 years ago, as a few others have said repeatedly on this board. You don't keep growing indefinitely once your receptors are saturated. He's the equivalent of Ronnie in 2005.
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He would need something to inject into.
lmao
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The only thing that's gonna stick out on most of these guys is their gut. Sad but true. Wolf was the best this day. It would be nice if he had calves. It would be nice if they all did.
Personally, I think the Musclemania guys look better. Better aesthetics, more complete, better separation. So, they are not as big, nor have 21 +inch arms, but the quality is there. And no missing body parts.
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Personally, I think the Musclemania guys look better. Better aesthetics, more complete, better separation. So, they are not as big, nor have 21 +inch arms, but the quality is there. And no missing body parts.
Cedric was not as good as Wolf this time and Shawn just looks like he always does. Blank faced with those "sleepy eyes" and totally lost with an "ok" physique. They both are severely lacking in the lower leg department. The other two guys? The white guy (don't know his name) is nothing to write Weider about and the other black guy I'm guessing (Victor Martinez?) was totally outclassed by everyone else up there.
They are built better than me, I will give you that. But not better than Dennis. This time.
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very talented.
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NO NO NO NO NO NO
LEAVE THAT GRAPEFRUIT ALONE KAI
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His hair receded a lot
yes in alot of reccent pictures ive noticed that.. he used to have a full head of hair like cutler, i guess all that tren is starting to play its toll on him
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How you do your calves has almost zero to do with their development. You either have them or you don't.
You also mentioned Dexter. Do you know how much shit he injected into them? You're not a stupid guy but you don't seem to know much about a few important aspects of the game.
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2304081&stc=1&d=1265390933)
Oily vs less so
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2499071&stc=1&d=1275642275)
(http://www.bodybuilders.gr/competitions/2013/australian-pro/prejudging/australian_pro_2013_dexter_jackson_2.jpg)
Of course there's something wrong with them. Seriously wrong. It's nerve damage, whether due to damage from injections or a pinched nerve somewhere.
I've seen black bicyclists with high calves like Vic Martinez, yet cut up, fully developed.
And black guys who just burn high reps---with great calves.
Vince Taylor had high calves and were great, Flex back in 92-93 as well, Shawn Ray...
Also, a funny thing, when Levrone's legs were down, but cut, his calves were damn non-existent.
I believe that with calves, as well as forearms, that there are many factors.
But, really sprinters don't have big calves. It is only in bbing to we put an emphasis on them, due to each body part being bigger than normal.
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whos to say he didnt inject them?
surely hes no stranger to spot injection,just like everyone else
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I've seen black bicyclists with high calves like Vic Martinez, yet cut up, fully developed.
And black guys who just burn high reps---with great calves.
Vince Taylor had high calves and were great, Flex back in 92-93 as well, Shawn Ray...
Also, a funny thing, when Levrone's legs were down, but cut, his calves were damn non-existent.
I believe that with calves, as well as forearms, that there are many factors.
But, really sprinters don't have big calves. It is only in bbing to we put an emphasis on them, due to each body part being bigger than normal.
Bodybuilding is genetics, calves in particular extra much so. You can't build poor calves. Vic is another example, all oil.
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That was fucking disturbing.
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I've seen black bicyclists with high calves like Vic Martinez, yet cut up, fully developed.
And black guys who just burn high reps---with great calves.
Vince Taylor had high calves and were great, Flex back in 92-93 as well, Shawn Ray...
Also, a funny thing, when Levrone's legs were down, but cut, his calves were damn non-existent.
I believe that with calves, as well as forearms, that there are many factors.
But, really sprinters don't have big calves. It is only in bbing to we put an emphasis on them, due to each body part being bigger than normal.
High calfs are no detriment. Like u say Taylor was stellar.
However Flex Wheeler had synthol or something... they had odd shape.
Coleman added oil ...odd shape.
Dexter ...odd shape.
Levrone not high calfs but NOT extraordinary.
A lot of race mixture in US.. Dickerson Dillet Oliva......... great calfs
But, for example, Nimrod King had Super Super high high calves but they were develoed to his max.
Kai greene doesn't seem to have obvious crap in his calves. but they are high and well developed.
Nothing wrong with high but underdeveloped looks bad...like Dennis Wolf...terrible.
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taylors calves were not/ are not high. living in south florida ive seen them live.
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taylors calves were not/ are not high. living in south florida ive seen them live.
with all due respect ...vince taylor has high calves. Not SMALL...HIGH. He absolutely has high calves. That's not a bad thing. Albert Beckles has High(short) biceps but their amongst the best in the world.
Schwarzeneggers calves were on the high side.
Maybe there is a misunderstanding of what high calves are but Vince Taylor had high Calves..no ifs ands or buts...his calves were great but high set.
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Not sure why Wolf gets so much crap for not having calves when Ronnie and Dexter didn't have them. Maybe it's because he's white?
because there is a big difference between having them small/short/not well developed and having them deformed like in wolf's case.. ronnie's calves at his best were there, clearly small for the rest of him but they were there.. they were not missing like in wolf's case or in dorian's left arm case in 1997..
compare wolf's overall shape in 2007 and now.. was over all better in 2007 because his calves were there,.. yes were small but fine..
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Did Wolf ever say he had nerve damage or claim that he did???
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Did Wolf ever say he had nerve damage or claim that he did???
This exact same thing has happened to a number of other pros... been discussed several times in the past here.
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I believe he has nerve damage in his right calve from an injection it was larger a few years ago and now its just flat.
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High calfs are no detriment. Like u say Taylor was stellar.
However Flex Wheeler had synthol or something... they had odd shape.
Coleman added oil ...odd shape.
Dexter ...odd shape.
Levrone not high calfs but NOT extraordinary.
A lot of race mixture in US.. Dickerson Dillet Oliva......... great calfs
But, for example, Nimrod King had Super Super high high calves but they were develoed to his max.
Kai greene doesn't seem to have obvious crap in his calves. but they are high and well developed.
Nothing wrong with high but underdeveloped looks bad...like Dennis Wolf...terrible.
Add Chris C in there he had good calves as well
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I would venture to say that injecting his calves is exactly what has caused the atrophy.......he has hit a nerve causing damage to the entire area
He has severe bilateral atrophy of the the gastrocnemicus as compared to his 2007 shape, but the left gastrocnemicus has disappeared totally. What you are seeing from the front, is only his soleus. This is dramatic.
If is was only on one side, I would subscribe to the pinched nerve theory. It could also be a severe muscle-tear.
Since it is bilateral (although worst on the left side), I think you are right. He probably damaged both calves by site injections.
NN
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How come he looked way wider back then? Can one lose width with time?
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/1883/1274/d/o2007menpre-0151191937445.jpg) (http://www.team-andro.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/191053/normal_DSC_1820_ergebnis~2.JPG)
Yes, apparently.
Wolf should have won the whole god damn thing in 2007 but the IFBB has a queue system in place so you have to work your way up gradually, especially if you are non-american.
If you look good for a long period of time, you might get rewarded even though the physique is long gone.
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I love Wolf (not much homo) but he's never looked as good and certainly never looked better than the 2007 Olympia.
2007 was for Wolf like it was for Markus at the 2002 NoC. The single moment in a BBs life when everything was on point, 100 % spot on, and never came close to again.
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AFAIK Wolf once said he tore his calf and quited training them afterwards cause they wont grows anyways.
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Look at this clown...
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I would venture to say that injecting his calves is exactly what has caused the atrophy.......he has hit a nerve causing damage to the entire area
He most certainly injected his calves... over and over and over again... big time.
Like I said in another thread, look at this month's MD mag. You can see the swelling all over his calves. He really did it up for that photo shoot. I can't even imagine the pain and denial he was in.
His skin on his arms and delts looks really, really bad. All lumpy and messed up. Stretch marks, S.E.O.'s, acne... ugh!
the things these guys have to do to compete sucks a cat's filthy wet asshole
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I knew someone would say that...I thought it was odd. One of the first mags I bought as kid was Shawn Ray talking about training calves. And he said (ghost written) that you don't do the bouncy movement. Slow, and controlled. And you know what? His calves are better than Ronnie's.
In Ronnie's vid, it was like calves were an afterthought...like "bam, bam, bam I'm done"
Not like his other body parts. I think it was The Unbelievable" vid.
everybody's different.
my calves don't grow with the slow and controlled stuff.
they'll only grow with the 'bouncy' ballistic movements.. with stupid heavy weight (same with traps).
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everybody's different.
my calves don't grow with the slow and controlled stuff.
they'll only grow with the 'bouncy' ballistic movements.. with stupid heavy weight (same with traps).
'stupid heavy weight' ::)
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'stupid heavy weight' ::)
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