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Title: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: Darren Avey on March 05, 2014, 08:22:01 AM
Im learning BJJ at the moment and have some boxing experience but I think learning so Muay thai would be good. What about Judo?Wrestling?
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: BigCyp on March 05, 2014, 08:28:38 AM
Do more boxing.
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Post by: gracie bjj on March 05, 2014, 08:55:33 AM
judo/bjj/muay thia is all a person needs imo
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Post by: Simple Simon on March 05, 2014, 08:56:10 AM
Smith and Wesson.
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Post by: benchmstr on March 05, 2014, 09:05:39 AM
Im learning BJJ at the moment and have some boxing experience but I think learning so Muay thai would be good. What about Judo?Wrestling?
Boxing and Krav Maga

If you don't master the art of throwing a punch what's the point of the rest of the game?

And unless your gonna do actual MMA type events bjj and wrestling are kinda useless since they are based on single attacker situations

Bench
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: jon cole on March 05, 2014, 09:08:42 AM
Im learning BJJ at the moment and have some boxing experience but I think learning so Muay thai would be good. What about Judo?Wrestling?


killer+survival instinct.

The rest is bullshit.
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: benchmstr on March 05, 2014, 09:09:33 AM

killer+survival instinct.

The rest is bullshit.
That's referred to as the super type A

Bench
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 05, 2014, 09:10:57 AM
Why are you so obsessed with fighting people ?

Are you a pissed off person ?
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Post by: OneMoreRep on March 05, 2014, 09:14:55 AM
Im learning BJJ at the moment and have some boxing experience but I think learning so Muay thai would be good. What about Judo?Wrestling?

For standup, I'd train heavily with Muay Thai.

For groundwork, I'd train mainly with no-gi Brazilian JiuJitsu with a focus on MMA application that includes strikes (versus sports JiuJitsu). Sports JiuJitsu, like what is seen in the Pan Ams and Worlds, is great if you look at a fight as taking place solely on the ground and with no use of strikes. Learn the basics of BJJ (up until about 4-stripe Blue or 1-stripe purple) and then concentrate more on no-gi JiuJitsu and make sure your instructor incorporates both strikes and uses guards that are good for evading strikes (Lister Guard, Penn's Damn Good Guard etc).

Within your groundwork, I would incorporate Wrestling in order to learn how to better control your opponent once on the ground and also to learn to have proper takedown defense.

Spend some time with a Judo sho-dan in order to pick up excellent hip control and throwing power, which can allow for great transitions into your ground game.

So, in order, to maximize your potential stick with Muay Thai and no-gi JiuJitsu with MMA application. The combination of these two will allow you to have solid standup and ground game. Polish both disciplines by incorporating Judo and Wrestling.

"1"
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: CalvinH on March 05, 2014, 09:16:50 AM
Why are you so obsessed with fighting people ?

Are you a pissed off person ?


Lots of midgets have a Napoleon complex.
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: Kwon_2 on March 05, 2014, 09:27:00 AM
Styles i trained
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For Standup / striking i used to focus on Tapout

And for Grappling / Takedowns and the Groundgame in general i trained Bellator.

For the general athletic training (cardio, strength, flexibility etc), i trained UFC.
Many useful techniques, like how to hone the lactic acid etc

I also trained self-defence (not to be used in the ring/cage) with many lethal techniques to incapacitate(and even kill!) a person when i trained the art of Mirage Hotel.

For the final drill (and when we got our exam), we trained standing in Paperbags.

Hope this helps Darren!
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: RagingBull on March 05, 2014, 09:30:12 AM
Assuming a person is athletic, coordinated and has natural ability, BJJ and Muay Thai are a great combination.  Just because you have a black belt means absolutely nothing.  "Serve the time and get a belt" philosophy of schools gives many a false sense of security. 
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 05, 2014, 09:41:52 AM
Wrestling for take downs and take down defense. So many BBJ guys can't take people down because they don't really practice it and eat a lot of strikes. A lot of wrestlers can win the majority of their street fights with a simple ground and pound. We see now in the UFC how many top tier guys come from a wrestling back ground who transition into BJJ and Muay Thai. I really believe in ten short years Brazil will play a very small role in the UFC as the US gets more of their wrestlers involved in the sport.

Boxing or Muay Thai. Most guys that haven't been in a striking match have no clue how getting hit actually is. If you could stay on your feet with sprawling and other techniques a good striker can put a beating on BJJ guy because I have seen so many BJJ strip mall dojo guys that can't get someone to the ground. They are always starting from the knees.

Brazilian Jui jutsu for submissions.  


I said this many times. In the streets weapons come into play. A good knife fighter is just about impossible to beat. A guy with a base ball bat is also tough. Many are carrying guns both legally and illegally.
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Post by: gracie bjj on March 05, 2014, 09:45:29 AM
i agree,that starting from knees is crap,ive left afew schools cause of that. thats why i wrestled in high school n took judo in addition to my NO-GI grappling. my 7yrd old son been wrestling 2 yrs now n wrestling is best base ever for MMA PERIOD
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Post by: Henda on March 05, 2014, 09:51:43 AM
Darren you arent the most handsome of chaps and fighting will only make matters worse.
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: _bruce_ on March 05, 2014, 09:52:01 AM
Weapons in order of deadliness...

3 MOAB
2 Fusion Bomb
1 Full frontal view of Darren
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: gracie bjj on March 05, 2014, 10:03:20 AM
we should all just carry weapons of mass destruction n when someone fucks with us we just scream (getbig forever) n blow up the whole fuckin country
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: Thick Nick on March 05, 2014, 10:18:08 AM
1. Speed

2. Balance

That is all.
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: bigmc on March 05, 2014, 10:20:20 AM

Lots of midgets have a Napoleon complex.

i should really knock this out of the park
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: Tapeworm on March 05, 2014, 10:31:09 AM

Lots of midgets have a Napoleon complex.


Stay outta Russia, kid.
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: Shockwave on March 05, 2014, 10:38:53 AM
Boxing/muy thai/jiu jitsu

judo is awesome as well, it just looks badass.

seems like boxing focuses on a lot of techniques that are somewhat glossed over in more traditional forms of MMA stand up. .. the couple dudes I knew who made the transition to MMA from boxing had excellent luck, as some of their boxing skills put them ahead of skme of the other guys that had just been training muy thai/kickboxing. ....
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: the trainer on March 05, 2014, 01:49:46 PM
Im learning BJJ at the moment and have some boxing experience but I think learning so Muay thai would be good. What about Judo?Wrestling?

You need to be brave with killer instinct and no gym can teach you this.
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on March 05, 2014, 02:05:07 PM

 Master yourself... first.
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: Pork_Chop on March 05, 2014, 02:08:00 PM
Krav Maga is extremely effective, but timing aquired through hundreds of hours of boxing is unrivalled in my opinion.

But intimidation/confidence can scare a threat away or question themselves, to the point no fists are thrown.
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: Hulkotron on March 05, 2014, 02:10:07 PM
You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: Simple Simon on March 05, 2014, 02:10:39 PM
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Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: anabolichalo on March 05, 2014, 02:13:21 PM
Krav Maga is extremely effective, but timing aquired through hundreds of hours of boxing is unrivalled in my opinion.

But intimidation/confidence can scare a threat away or question themselves, to the point no fists are thrown.
this is not just yours opinion but the opinion of every martial arts master


without this skill all "deadly technique" is useles
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: Pray_4_War on March 05, 2014, 02:13:39 PM
Boxing/Greco-Roman Wrestling/BJJ
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: Hulkotron on March 05, 2014, 02:16:49 PM
CrossFit will fast-track you into a man to be respected and feared.
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: Kwon_2 on March 05, 2014, 02:33:43 PM
I train Tapout and Bellator and have a Black Belt in UFC
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 06, 2014, 01:58:12 AM
-good rifle + good telescope
-Bokator
-Muay Thai
-Unlicensed boxing
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: Wolfox on March 06, 2014, 02:04:59 AM
Catch Wrestling.
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: Darren Avey on March 06, 2014, 09:20:08 AM

-Unlicensed boxing

YEH BABY DA GUVNOR

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Post by: Mr Nobody on March 06, 2014, 09:24:50 AM
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Post by: polychronopolous on March 06, 2014, 09:35:30 AM
Generally the lower the post count with the most gimmicky type handle = the greater the badass.
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 06, 2014, 01:48:32 PM
YEH BABY DA GUVNOR



Small ring wins  ;D
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: galeniko on March 06, 2014, 01:50:25 PM
Im learning BJJ at the moment and have some boxing experience but I think learning so Muay thai would be good. What about Judo?Wrestling?
get a gun.

and some bullets.


now, hold the gun towars the own face.

pul the trigger
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 06, 2014, 01:56:15 PM
get a gun.

and some bullets.


now, hold the gun towars the own face.

pul the trigger

any UB fights in CH ?
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: galeniko on March 06, 2014, 01:57:50 PM
any UB fights in CH ?
only bar brawls as far im aware :D
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: Darren Avey on March 06, 2014, 02:31:33 PM
get a gun.

and some bullets.


now, hold the gun towars the own face.

pul the trigger

I did that, the bullet just bounced off my head and smashed through the wall. tried it twice.
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 06, 2014, 02:34:03 PM
only bar brawls as far im aware :D

must be boring, any (illegal) dog fights  ???
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: JasonH on March 06, 2014, 02:46:11 PM
Darren you arent the most handsome of chaps and fighting will only make matters worse.


 ;D
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: pellius on March 06, 2014, 06:43:36 PM

Lots of midgets have a Napoleon complex.

LMAO

Just when I thought your game was growing stale.
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: bigbadwolfe on March 06, 2014, 07:02:03 PM
Rex Kwondo is by far the most superior base for any upcoming MMA fighter. One roundhouse kick to the face while wearing some American flag baggies would drop the best UFC has to offer!!!
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: Wolfox on March 06, 2014, 07:04:23 PM
One of the biggest assets is having great cardio and a solid chin.

It doesn't matter how big and strong you are if you gas in 30 seconds.
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: Wolfox on March 06, 2014, 07:27:33 PM
The best base is wrestling(either greco-roman or freestyle) ... from there some kind of striking art depending on the fighters natural abilities and structure. Then a submission art like BJJ.

What we have seen is that high level wrestlers in mma that are low ranking in BJJ can easily handle higher caliber BJJ specialists. Anyone who has trained BJJ and rolled with a wrestler knows how fast the wrestler can advance.

But with Catch wrestling you would learn wrestling and submissions. The great thing about catch is it by style aggressive in its attempts to break your shit... and this is very effective in real life combat.
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Post by: Kwon_2 on March 06, 2014, 08:38:41 PM
The best base is wrestling(either greco-roman or freestyle) ... from there some kind of striking art depending on the fighters natural abilities and structure. Then a submission art like BJJ.

I'd have to say that the best base is Ernst Stavro Blofelds base.
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: SF1900 on March 06, 2014, 09:17:04 PM
What skillset is best to make a good fighter?

First off, probably not looking like you.
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: ESFitness on March 06, 2014, 09:27:38 PM
Boxing and Krav Maga

If you don't master the art of throwing a punch what's the point of the rest of the game?

And unless your gonna do actual MMA type events bjj and wrestling are kinda useless since they are based on single attacker situations

Bench

boxing will get you a broken hand and you lose 1/2 your 'weapons' in a typical street fight.

at least with muay thai you'll still have knees and elbows.... throwing a kick in a streetfight is a very bad idea 95% of the time unless you're very proficient.

low kick/leg kick allows your attacker/opponent to close the gap quickly, as it's not gonna stop him .

throw a high kick and run the risk of losing your balance and falling, or pulling a hamstring... much less it allows your attacker to close the gap again.

in a street fight where you're striking you'll want to maintain distance and when inside use the most dangerous weapons you have.. which are elbows in my opinion/experience. short elbows will rattle a guy's head much more effectively than a dirty-boxing punch, plus if you catch a bit of skull, you'll break your hand.

but in an actuall 'street fight' it's "do your worst, fast and first"... eyes, throat, and groin. you're not point fighting and there's no judges or ref's.. and as a grown man, you have no business "fighting" in the street where you'd risk losing 'honor/respect' for gouging eyes.

if you're gonna fight somebody over disrespect? it's not a fight. it's an assault... use a weapon if you wanna teach a guy a lesson.
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Post by: CalvinH on March 07, 2014, 09:32:00 AM


Stay outta Russia, kid.



 ;D
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: pellius on March 08, 2014, 05:20:42 PM
When is Marty going to weigh in? He's been training "UFC" for years now.
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Post by: sagittal chest on March 08, 2014, 05:43:50 PM
All of the fighting styles you see UFC champions use (Muay Thai, kickboxing, boxing, kyokushin, shotokan, greco roman wrestling, Catch wrestling, bjj, judo, etc)
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Post by: The Ugly on March 08, 2014, 06:07:02 PM
All of the fighting styles you see UFC champions use (Muay Thai, kickboxing, boxing, kyokushin, shotokan, greco roman wrestling, Catch wrestling, bjj, judo, etc)

Shotokan? Isn't that some Japanese chop-chop silliness?
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Post by: sagittal chest on March 08, 2014, 07:58:22 PM
Shotokan? Isn't that some Japanese chop-chop silliness?

Do you follow mma?
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Post by: The Ugly on March 08, 2014, 09:47:21 PM
Since the beginning, yes.

Wait, is that what Machida studied?
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Post by: Kwon_2 on March 08, 2014, 10:44:31 PM
Shotokan? Isn't that some Japanese chop-chop silliness?

Have you trained any Martial Arts?
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Post by: Big Willy on March 08, 2014, 11:53:33 PM
Have you trained any Martial Arts?

I do Karatee, TaeKWONdo, Aikido, Hapkido, and Fuck your Kiddo.
Title: Re: What skillset is best to make a good fighter?
Post by: The Ugly on March 10, 2014, 12:20:17 PM
Have you trained any Martial Arts?

Tae Kwon Do for years when I use young. Useless.