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Title: how much is to much test while dieting
Post by: 20inch calves on March 07, 2014, 02:45:33 PM
Test conversion to estrogen is the enemy while dieting. I read top amatuers and pros dieting on 3 grams plus..can u get shredded on say 1-2 grams a wk
Title: Re: how much is to much test while dieting
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on March 07, 2014, 04:04:15 PM
Test conversion to estrogen is the enemy while dieting. I read top amatuers and pros dieting on 3 grams plus..can u get shredded on say 1-2 grams a wk


They run that much test, but they'll cut it out 1-2 weeks before they get on stage.

So yes, you can get very lean on lots of test but probably not dry
Title: Re: how much is to much test while dieting
Post by: lilhawk1 on March 07, 2014, 04:05:20 PM
You can get shredded on anything.  It's all in your diet.  A lot of the water retention from test is due to excess calories and sodium, not just estrogen.
Title: Re: how much is to much test while dieting
Post by: Overload on March 07, 2014, 09:05:45 PM
I've been on 1500mg  of Test and around 8% bodyfat.

It's all in your diet.


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Title: Re: how much is to much test while dieting
Post by: Ace on March 07, 2014, 10:48:43 PM
I've been on 1500mg  of Test and around 8% bodyfat.

It's all in your diet.


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so is this "dry" and "wet" compounds stuff nonsense in your opinion?

Title: Re: how much is to much test while dieting
Post by: visualizeperfection on March 08, 2014, 01:56:39 AM
so is this "dry" and "wet" compounds stuff nonsense in your opinion?



no.

shitty diet can contribute to even more water and bloof, but there are drier drugs and wetter drugs.

no diet in the world can you keep you dry on drol.
Title: Re: how much is to much test while dieting
Post by: Jizmo on March 08, 2014, 02:55:19 AM
water retention =/= bodyfat
Title: Re: how much is to much test while dieting
Post by: 20inch calves on March 08, 2014, 07:25:37 AM
Don't u think it's harder to see the changes .. the strirstions are blurred. To me its harder to tell ymthat I m losing
Title: Re: how much is to much test while dieting
Post by: sway on March 08, 2014, 07:31:01 AM
no.

shitty diet can contribute to even more water and bloof, but there are drier drugs and wetter drugs.

no diet in the world can you keep you dry on drol.

You can diet and get ripped on any kind if gear, Anadrol included. It's the diet that matters. In fact nearly every top amateur here in Vegas or Cali I know uses Drol to diet on.
Title: Re: how much is to much test while dieting
Post by: galeniko on March 08, 2014, 09:15:09 AM
anadrol is one which will give a bit water retention no matter what

but yeah can get lean, will just hold water, then you take the test out and become dry within 7-20days,depending on the ester.

if one uses what is way too much for their muscle mass to support,the estrogen will be too high and hinder the last bit fatloss.

if one uses proper doses, all good, just take th etest out and will be drier by the day.

when the diet is good, all steroids will be having the "cutting" effect, maybe barring dbol and drol somewhat, the main difference is a cheat meal will have more catastrophic aestetic effect after a cheat meal.
on mast you stay tight after cheat meal, on test you baloon up much more.

and well, estrogen inhibitor will help greatly with high test doses.but rather better to run low dose test with tren or the such.
Title: Re: how much is to much test while dieting
Post by: visualizeperfection on March 08, 2014, 09:28:28 AM
You can diet and get ripped on any kind if gear, Anadrol included. It's the diet that matters. In fact nearly every top amateur here in Vegas or Cali I know uses Drol to diet on.

I didnt say you cant diet on it.

you best believe they cut that shit a few weeks out from any show.

All I said is you will get watery regardless of diet.
Title: Re: how much is to much test while dieting
Post by: visualizeperfection on March 08, 2014, 09:30:57 AM
anadrol is one which will give a bit water retention no matter what

but yeah can get lean, will just hold water, then you take the test out and become dry within 7-20days,depending on the ester.

if one uses what is way too much for their muscle mass to support,the estrogen will be too high and hinder the last bit fatloss.

if one uses proper doses, all good, just take th etest out and will be drier by the day.

when the diet is good, all steroids will be having the "cutting" effect, maybe barring dbol and drol somewhat, the main difference is a cheat meal will have more catastrophic aestetic effect after a cheat meal.
on mast you stay tight after cheat meal, on test you baloon up much more.

and well, estrogen inhibitor will help greatly with high test doses.but rather better to run low dose test with tren or the such.

I dont like AI, never taken one for an extended period. Fucks my skin up, my mood up, my dick up, etc.

us low dose guys can go no ai as long as the food is not of toilet quality.

cardio is good to get rid of water too I think, almost as usefull as it is for fat loss
Title: Re: how much is to much test while dieting
Post by: lilhawk1 on March 08, 2014, 11:29:10 AM
I didnt say you cant diet on it.

you best believe they cut that shit a few weeks out from any show.

All I said is you will get watery regardless of diet.

Anadrol is used very effectively to carb up with right up till show.  Nothing will give fullness and roundness like drol.
Title: Re: how much is to much test while dieting
Post by: galeniko on March 08, 2014, 01:35:35 PM
Anadrol is used very effectively to carb up with right up till show.  Nothing will give fullness and roundness like drol.
says who?
Title: Re: how much is to much test while dieting
Post by: lilhawk1 on March 08, 2014, 04:07:06 PM
Anyone that competes at a high level is using drol to fill out before the show.  Nothing will blow you up faster.  Any water is dealt with by the use of a diuretic.  50-200 mg per day.
Title: Re: how much is to much test while dieting
Post by: visualizeperfection on March 08, 2014, 07:04:05 PM
Anyone that competes at a high level is using drol to fill out before the show.  Nothing will blow you up faster.  Any water is dealt with by the use of a diuretic.  50-200 mg per day.

Hmm never heard of that.

Title: Re: how much is to much test while dieting
Post by: Altair on March 08, 2014, 08:29:56 PM
Anadrol is used very effectively to carb up with right up till show.  Nothing will give fullness and roundness like drol.

Exactly, Anadrol is fantastic for keeping you full and tight while dieting as long as your lean enough.
Title: Re: how much is to much test while dieting
Post by: visualizeperfection on March 08, 2014, 08:35:25 PM
Exactly, Anadrol is fantastic for keeping you full and tight while dieting as long as your lean enough.

dieting in general? why not, sure.

but a few weeks out?

thats where im confused.
Title: Re: how much is to much test while dieting
Post by: galeniko on March 10, 2014, 12:17:03 PM
Anyone that competes at a high level is using drol to fill out before the show.  Nothing will blow you up faster.  Any water is dealt with by the use of a diuretic.  50-200 mg per day.
stop the bs, frend just competed at 280lbs and he used halotestin for that.

"anyone"

Title: Re: how much is to much test while dieting
Post by: ESFitness on March 10, 2014, 02:43:44 PM
drol is great precontest/pre photoshoot/pre-whatever you need to be in shape for.

'offseason' = dbol

'showtime' = drol
Title: Re: how much is to much test while dieting
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on March 10, 2014, 08:40:15 PM
says who?

I've heard that from a couple different people, too.  Zero personal experience with it though
Title: Re: how much is to much test while dieting
Post by: Fuzzy Nuts on March 11, 2014, 09:18:39 AM
stop the bs, frend just competed at 280lbs and he used halotestin for that.

"anyone"


Agree. People I have known to compete used halo and var, maybe winny.
Title: Re: how much is to much test while dieting
Post by: mazrim on March 31, 2014, 02:09:48 PM
Drol is used before a show by many.
Title: Re: how much is to much test while dieting
Post by: ESFitness on March 31, 2014, 03:02:27 PM
no.

shitty diet can contribute to even more water and bloof, but there are drier drugs and wetter drugs.

no diet in the world can you keep you dry on drol.

I dunno... I don't get much water at all on drol.

I fill up "from the inside".. mucle fills up and is nice a full with little or no water subq.

dbol will have my soft and watery though.

test, deca, and dbol will have me looking almost fat at 8%.. but pull the deca and dbol and replace with tren and drol for 2 weeks and I'm looking lean and hard at 7%
Title: Re: how much is to much test while dieting
Post by: visualizeperfection on March 31, 2014, 05:04:48 PM
I dunno... I don't get much water at all on drol.

I fill up "from the inside".. mucle fills up and is nice a full with little or no water subq.

dbol will have my soft and watery though.

test, deca, and dbol will have me looking almost fat at 8%.. but pull the deca and dbol and replace with tren and drol for 2 weeks and I'm looking lean and hard at 7%

even with all the chicken nuggets?  ;D
Title: Re: how much is to much test while dieting
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on March 31, 2014, 06:45:27 PM
Drol is used before a show by many.

Damn where have you been bro.... you had one of, if not THE best physique ever posted on this site.

Still training?  What have you been up to?
Title: Re: how much is to much test while dieting
Post by: ESFitness on March 31, 2014, 09:02:58 PM
even with all the chicken nuggets?  ;D

of course.

if I cut them I gotta make up for those kcals with jasmine rice and chicken breast.. that's a lot of damn food in my gut. lol. I get tired of chewing and eating and end up not getting enough kcals in and looking flat and small.