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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Skorp1o on March 31, 2014, 03:39:56 AM
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I jabbed a cutmix of 150mg (50mg test prop, 50mg Tren ace, 50mg Mast) and boy my arse is dead, I can sit or stand up without doign so slowly and in pain.
Someone todl me it is common with higher dosed fast acting gear, whereas the esther leaves the oil faster and crystalises in the muscle. He said that warming up the oil filled needle just before injecting will help as the absorbsion is much improved?
Is this true? or does anyone have other ideas...I dont want to jab again unless im quite sure im not gona temporarily paralise another body part
Someone else said doing cardio after an injection also helps.
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Have you run prop before? Some people get a bit of pain from that ester? Also what lab as cutmixes are usually shit bro
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You should read ESF's diatribes on why cut-mixes are usually bullshit and likely never what they purport to be.
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You should read ESF's diatribes on why cut-mixes are usually bullshit and likely never what they purport to be.
I was just going to mention this.
made a lot of sense.
I couldnt find the post.
but it basically just talked about how a lab wouldnt dose it right due to production cost, etc.
he says the cutmix doesnt make sense to produce unless something is getting shorted in the mix
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I was just going to mention this.
made a lot of sense.
I couldnt find the post.
but it basically just talked about how a lab wouldnt dose it right due to production cost, etc.
he says the cutmix doesnt make sense to produce unless something is getting shorted in the mix
Ok, well that sucks for me
But tbh im not too bothered, if the pain is that bad its not worth it IMO, ill just stick with pharam grade test and plain old sust
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Warming the vials helps, having the muscle relaxed helps, I dont use mixes but mix myself from seperate vials with prop,tren,mast. I dont experience bad PIP only occasionally from a less than perfect injection.
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Ok, well that sucks for me
But tbh im not too bothered, if the pain is that bad its not worth it IMO, ill just stick with pharam grade test and plain old sust
I have never pinned UGL gear.
Im thinking about taking the dive very soon, I can only get pharm test.
Im having panic attacks thinking about some dude that looks like this
(http://truchacabra.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/tweaker.jpg)
in a garage making my gear and mixing it with drano.
this thread doesnt help lol :-\
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Warming the vials helps, having the muscle relaxed helps, I dont use mixes but mix myself from seperate vials with prop,tren,mast. I dont experience bad PIP only occasionally from a less than perfect injection.
Thanks, will try warming it up and see how this one turns out, im gona wait till the last injection is out the way first.
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I have never pinned UGL gear.
Im thinking about taking the dive very soon, I can only get pharm test.
Im having panic attacks thinking about some dude that looks like this
(http://truchacabra.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/tweaker.jpg)
in a garage making my gear and mixing it with drano.
this thread doesnt help lol :-\
haha....
I would say if you can use an old standing UG thats been around for many years its best, they have a reputation to maintain and lots of guinea pigs and feed back around. I always avoid unheard off UGL.
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Sometimes i put a hot water bladder on the ass.
Diluting the mix with deca durabolin (50mg/ml or 25mg/ml) or the old ganabol (50mg/ml) or even testex (250mg/2ml) is an excellent way to be less painfull. I have tried it many times and it worked. Deca my favourite.
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Sometimes i put a hot water bladder in on the ass.
Diluting the mix with deca durabolin (50mg/ml or 25mg/ml) or the old ganabol (50mg/ml) or even testex (250mg/2ml) is an excellent way to be less painfull. I have tried it many times and it worked. Deca my favourite.
Fixed.
big difference bro. lol
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Sometimes i put a hot water bladder in the ass.
Sounds painful and kinda "wrong" never mind the injection pain ;D
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HA HA HA...
I was never an A student in english.
:D
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I have never pinned UGL gear.
Im thinking about taking the dive very soon, I can only get pharm test.
Im having panic attacks thinking about some dude that looks like this
(http://truchacabra.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/tweaker.jpg)
in a garage making my gear and mixing it with drano.
this thread doesnt help lol :-\
I am using UGL test e and it seems pretty good. Don't have a lot of points of reference, tho.
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I am using UGL test e and it seems pretty good. Don't have a lot of points of reference, tho.
Im not doubting UGL potency or anything, im just weary of impurities in the raw powders, the oil used...etc.
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I am using UGL test e and it seems pretty good. Don't have a lot of points of reference, tho.
Personally when it comes to test e or sust, I always opt for pharma due to availability...I always choose pharma grade over UGL, unless its a compound not found in pharma i.e. mast, tren....etc.
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I was just going to mention this.
made a lot of sense.
I couldnt find the post.
but it basically just talked about how a lab wouldnt dose it right due to production cost, etc.
he says the cutmix doesnt make sense to produce unless something is getting shorted in the mix
Wtf I couldn't imagine an explanation that would make sense.... the sum cost of the components + some profit margin = the cost of the vial. Simple as that
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Wtf I couldn't imagine an explanation that would make sense.... the sum cost of the components + some profit margin = the cost of the vial. Simple as that
Im too tired to dig up esfitness' post regarding the topic.
it made sense to me, and im a very smart guy, some say I even possess an elite level intellect.
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Wtf I couldn't imagine an explanation that would make sense.... the sum cost of the components + some profit margin = the cost of the vial. Simple as that
It had to do with increasing the profit margin by shorting the most expensive compound in the mix. He used real prices for real raws to show that some of these cut mixes couldn't be done without a negative profit margin.
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It wont have mast, just more test as isnt most expensive raw prices mast/tren/test if i remeber correctly?
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I have never pinned UGL gear.
Im thinking about taking the dive very soon, I can only get pharm test.
Im having panic attacks thinking about some dude that looks like this
(http://truchacabra.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/tweaker.jpg)
in a garage making my gear and mixing it with drano.
this thread doesnt help lol :-\
Is that Maxx?
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Personally when it comes to test e or sust, I always opt for pharma due to availability...I always choose pharma grade over UGL, unless its a compound not found in pharma i.e. mast, tren....etc.
Proviron isn't very different from masterona.
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It wont have mast, just more test as isnt most expensive raw prices mast/tren/test if i remeber correctly?
tren and mast cost exactly the same to produce ,but the results from tren are much greater than mast, so instead of having 50mg tren/50 mast, you'll likely have 40tren or even 35 (as most won't tell the difference between 50 and 35, since they're using it 3x/wk, and just enough mast to bump sex drive, say 20mg/ml or something, and enough test so you'll feel it.
I could break down on Excel the cost per bottle to produce a the tren, mast and test individually, then combined, and it'll always make more sense to sell the bottles individually for the supplier.. higher profit margins always come out ahead. google the term "opportunity cost", an term we use in managerial accounting. why would a supplier sell something that he'll make 6x profit on, when he can sell the same products individually and make 10-17x profit (large gap, I know).
I'm in a hurry, and I could use analogies and stuff to explain better, but the point is, cut mixes, if dosed according to labels, aren't nearly as profitable to suppliers as the individual products, hence you're rarely getting what you expect on the label since the supplier wants profit... this is business, not a charity.
mind you, that's not and never has been what I do. I do everything a lil over the label (not much, maybe 2-12mg per dose over, depending on what it is.. oral/inj/, what kind of injectable, ect... people want consistency, not 1 batch that's 205mg/ml and another that's 230mg/ml... next thing you know, they think your next batch at 207mg is underdosed or something).... i'll never bother with a 'cut mix' or a blend of any sort unless it's a special request and I'm doing it as a favor.
you're always better off buying the products individually and mixing yourself.
#1, you get better mg/$
#2, you have a much better chance of getting what's actually on the label.
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Is that Maxx?
;D
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It had to do with increasing the profit margin by shorting the most expensive compound in the mix. He used real prices for real raws to show that some of these cut mixes couldn't be done without a negative profit margin.
That's certainly not true...what he's saying is that since most people won't know the difference, many suppliers will simply substitute one compound for another. Not that it's "impossible" to sell it for profit.
If your supplier is good, then it shouldn't be an issue. Plenty of "sustanon" being sold is just test prop and test enth. A lot of primo is just underdosed eq....but there are suppliers that will actually sell you what they say they're selling.
I agree that buying a pre-made blend usually isn't a good idea, but if you have to worry about your supplier selling you something other than what he says, well, maybe you should find a better source.
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So in the top/worst 5 steroid threads you say you hate tren, never touch it again feel like shit on it no use to you, yet here you are running tren?
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So in the top/worst 5 steroid threads you say you hate tren, never touch it again feel like shit on it no use to you, yet here you are running tren?
A dead ass is worth it for more muscle. Ibiza's coming up!
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A dead ass is worth it for more muscle. Ibiza's coming up!
Lol i know tren is kinda in a league of its own re comp wise but still, fuck runnin something that didnt agree with me because of ibiza
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A dead ass is worth it for more muscle. Ibiza's coming up!
you going?
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you going?
Would love to, but alas no. I couldn't hang with you he-men anyway. I would feel like I need a walker.
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So in the top/worst 5 steroid threads you say you hate tren, never touch it again feel like shit on it no use to you, yet here you are running tren?
Yep, as Im a big fan of masteron, someone talked me into trying this propr, mast, tren cut mix as...I thought what the heck surely 50mg 3 times isn't gona kill me...my arse is dead now. Luckily I'm a hetero-sexual and don't need to use in that way in Ibiza.
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Yep, as Im a big fan of masteron, someone talked me into trying this propr, mast, tren cut mix as...I thought what the heck surely 50mg 3 times isn't gona kill me...my arse is dead now. Luckily I'm a hetero-sexual and don't need to use in that way in Ibiza.
was it the geezer selling it who talked you into the cutmix? Also quite ironic you got it because you love masteron
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was it the geezer selling it who talked you into the cutmix? Also quite ironic you got it because you love masteron
No, it was a mate of mine who was on it, since I do test and mast almost exclusively and never go high, he said he's been having a great cycle with this cut mix and tren sides are minimal due to the amount. I always had great results with tren but the sides have been unearable but usually was on tren enanthate.
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No, it was a mate of mine who was on it, since I do test and mast almost exclusively and never go high, he said he's been having a great cycle with this cut mix and tren sides are minimal due to the amount. I always had great results with tren but the sides have been unearable but usually was on tren enanthate.
I like test n mast aswell. But with tren its taken to another level! Never used tren e tho only tried hex,ace and suspension.
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I like test n mast aswell. But with tren its taken to another level! Never used tren e tho only tried hex,ace and suspension.
Every day jabs with the suspension? Or did you just use it pre workout?
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Every day jabs with the suspension? Or did you just use it pre workout?
50mg About an hour pre, but i train almost evryday....its FUCKING NUTS! people were like "you look like your going to murder somone" hahaha really intense aggression and strength. will prolly get couple boxes as im runnin ace now so would go nice.
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50mg About an hour pre, but i train almost evryday....its FUCKING NUTS! people were like "you look like your going to murder somone" hahaha really intense aggression and strength. will prolly get couple boxes as im runnin ace now so would go nice.
lol I dont even like taking pre workouts cuz I hate training without it when I take it for too long.
I cant imagine how dependent you can get on AAS prewo
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I like test n mast aswell. But with tren its taken to another level! Never used tren e tho only tried hex,ace and suspension.
Tren e is more tense than acetate, the night sweats, the anxiety, BP jumps up, agression 9if you have triggers in your life i.e. a crazy GF)...etc anything from 400mg a week and by the third week where concentrated levels are lingering in your system. I used to take it and suck it up but as I hit my 30's I seem to have become very sensitive.
Test and Mast are my favourite, lean out nicely, cardio is really good on it, I just feel so much healthier in comparison to anything else espcially when you keep dosage reasonable I can stay on for ages.
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Tren e is more tense than acetate, the night sweats, the anxiety, BP jumps up, agression 9if you have triggers in your life i.e. a crazy GF)...etc anything from 400mg a week and by the third week where concentrated levels are lingering in your system. I used to take it and suck it up but as I hit my 30's I seem to have become very sensitive.
Test and Mast are my favourite, lean out nicely, cardio is really good on it, I just feel so much healthier in comparison to anything else espcially when you keep dosage reasonable I can stay on for ages.
lol the gf comment is true thats what always makes my anger blow up