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Title: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: the shadow on January 19, 2006, 10:54:04 PM
hey in the new flex there is a article about the 15 most shocking bodybuilding moments.can any 1 tell me wat those moments really r?
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: 240 is Back on January 19, 2006, 10:55:00 PM
Ronnie's 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th Sandows  :-\
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 19, 2006, 10:56:05 PM
Craig and Kelly :-\.......that pretty much takes the cake!
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: brianX on January 19, 2006, 11:23:36 PM
The Anaconda Incident was pretty shocking.
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: DIVISION on January 19, 2006, 11:40:37 PM

Arnold in '80, Ronnie in '01

Both shocking.......consideri ng the circumstances......






DIV
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: Hulkster on January 19, 2006, 11:42:20 PM
the 1994 Olympia should have taken up at least 3 of the 15 spots.
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: HRDCOR on January 20, 2006, 02:31:52 AM
Shawn Ray getting busted for steriod use !!! or was diuretic use ?? ;D


No but seriously the death of Momo Benazia and the way it unfolded would have to be up there !
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: dawakaman on January 20, 2006, 02:47:12 AM
The deaths of Momo, Muntzer.
Arnold winning the 1980's Olympia
Craig Titus & Kelly Ryan killing someone
Dorian winning the Olympia witha severly torn bicep
Ronnie winning in 2002
Dillet freezing onstage and had to be carried off

There are more, but this will do for now.
Peace
D
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: Army of One on January 20, 2006, 02:52:49 AM
240 posting his pics
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: onlyme on January 20, 2006, 02:55:12 AM
Weider popping his penile pump in 2000 is up there
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: Slick Vic on January 20, 2006, 03:52:44 AM
Of course the number one shocking moment was Arnold's 1980 Olympia win. Another shocker that's very fitting was Ronnie's Olympia win against Jay in 2001.
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: (nothing) on January 20, 2006, 04:10:56 AM
#1 shocking moment for most is when you find out that they all juice :'(
#1 for the regular................. .......
klaus
80' arnold win
94' dorian win over shawn
01' ronnie win over jay
momo's death
munzer's death
kelly and titus murder
bertil's murder
dillet freezing on stage
drum roll........finding out greg valentio's arms are enhanced
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: delta9mda on January 20, 2006, 04:27:48 AM
hahahaha the 94 olympia is not even mentioned. sorry hulkster, shawn said it, "i got the placing i deserved".
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: (nothing) on January 20, 2006, 05:08:47 AM
hahahaha the 94 olympia is not even mentioned. sorry hulkster, shawn said it, "i got the placing i deserved".

he was being humble, look at the video and pics, he beat the one armed man!
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on January 20, 2006, 05:37:38 AM
did they list the year they started hiking the thong up there ass on back lat spreads?
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: sculpture on January 20, 2006, 05:44:08 AM
hahahaha the 94 olympia is not even mentioned. sorry hulkster, shawn said it, "i got the placing i deserved".
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loser
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: FLEX N FREAK on January 20, 2006, 06:05:15 AM
the appearance of M1 on get big >:(
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 20, 2006, 07:01:59 AM
The treatment of Ntuk Ntuk.
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: Karl Kox on January 20, 2006, 07:05:48 AM
did they list the year they started hiking the thong up there ass on back lat spreads?

ha ha  
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: IceCold on January 20, 2006, 08:40:05 AM
the 1994 Olympia should have taken up at least 3 of the 15 spots.


get over it.   dorian beat shawn fair and square and deservingly so.  just bc you'll be 5'6" for the rest of your life and greatly admire shawn (who was a great bber) stop bitching about how he was robbed - according to you.
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: theonlyone on January 20, 2006, 08:42:05 AM

get over it.   dorian beat shawn fair and square and deservingly so.  just bc you'll be 5'6" for the rest of your life and greatly admire shawn (who was a great bber) stop bitching about how he was robbed - according to you.

Agree Doryan owned Shawn I have a tape. Shawn got owned not even close. Sorry Shawn
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: delta9mda on January 20, 2006, 08:56:10 AM
he was being humble, look at the video and pics, he beat the one armed man!
right, i dont think so. if shawn thought he should have won im sure the fastest lip in bb would have said "i should have won".
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: Shawn Ray on January 20, 2006, 09:40:33 AM
Who cares, you guys stop living in the past and let it go already ::)
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 20, 2006, 09:42:30 AM
Who cares, you guys stop living in the past and let it go already ::)


Living in the past?  I don't think you should be commenting in that manner.
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: HowDog on January 20, 2006, 09:53:00 AM
OUCH!
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: FAH-Q on January 20, 2006, 12:06:42 PM
the most shocking moment?






bob paris stepping on stage with cum dripping from his lips ;D
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: onlyme on January 20, 2006, 12:11:55 PM
Quote
Who cares, you guys stop living in the past and let it go already

Even I have to say you shouldn't have said that.  It is your past is the reason why you can do anything today.  If you weren't who you were from the past do you honestly think you can do the things you do today.  Believe me if I didn't have the past I had I would be nowhere.
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: HRDCOR on January 20, 2006, 12:17:50 PM
I don't think you can call somebody's win at a Olympia "Shocking" due to the fact most probably expected it and wasn't surprised when it happened !!!

I think you need to come up with some stuff better than a foreseen win at a show to be called "Shocking"

The like,s of when Bob Paris came out of the closet !!! :-*
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: tommywishbone on January 20, 2006, 12:39:03 PM
#1 Waller hiding Katz' t-shirt.
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: Jr. Yates on January 20, 2006, 12:44:56 PM
#1 Waller hiding Katz' t-shirt.

hahaha
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 20, 2006, 02:10:20 PM
Number 15 was the man doing the crucifixtion pose onstage in protest over his placement.

Sally McNeil got a spot.

Weiders feuding with another promoter and organization was mentioned.  (not Vince and WBE)

Wayne flopping his own federation was given a spot.  Arnold's win over Sergio was mentioned.

So was Arnolds last O.

Bertil's conviction

Momos death

Andres death

FLEX WHEELER AND HIS NINJA STORY WAS GIVEN A SPOT. AHAHAH

that is all I can remember
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: HRDCOR on January 20, 2006, 02:17:31 PM
How about when Paula Birkenshaw spat the dummy over her placing at a show(might have been the Olympia) and jumped of the stage and gave the judges the finger and said she was "done with you wankers"

CLASSIC !!!

I actualy went out night clubbing with Paula once , True !
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: tommywishbone on January 20, 2006, 02:31:55 PM
#15... That would be Kal Sckalck (sp?)
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 20, 2006, 02:39:08 PM
moments they should have included but their pussy asses didn't.

Paul Dillett doing the pop-lock-locklocklocklock all over the stage that night.

Jay suing to get his second place at the O back.  (crybaby)

WBE stars leaving

The Battle Of The Pussies - Mike Quinn and Gary Strydom
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: Jr. Yates on January 20, 2006, 02:40:21 PM
moments they should have included but their pussy asses didn't.

Paul Dillett doing the pop-lock-locklocklocklock all over the stage that night.

Jay suing to get his second place at the O back.  (crybaby)

WBE stars leaving

The Battle Of The Pussies - Mike Quinn and Gary Strydom
wow i don't know one of those things.
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: hangclean on January 20, 2006, 03:41:55 PM
the most shocking moment?lmao!!!!






bob paris stepping on stage with cum dripping from his lips ;D
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: Hulkster on January 20, 2006, 03:44:38 PM
Here's one that probably didn't appear on the list:

In 1992, Vince Taylor won every show under the sun, Arnold Classic and all, heading in to the Olympia with more momentum than Flex Wheeler running from a gang of ninjas.

Then..

He injures himself, shows up with an eyepatch, and only places 6th.

No one was expecting that.

ps- 1994 was still a crock.

Its one thing to let the past lie, but another to discredit and disrespect the rightful winner by saying crap like "he wasn't even close" ::)

(http://body.builder.hu/imagebank/pictures/974026580.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy179.jpg)
(http://www.emusclemag.com/webimages/sandows/yates/1_lrg.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=49784.0;id=51188;image)
not even close my ass.
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: Bluto on January 20, 2006, 03:46:39 PM
paul diletts muscle cramps on stage
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: Tokyo Joe on January 20, 2006, 04:05:31 PM
More shocking than Ronnie winning the 2001 Olympia was Jay failing the diuretics test, filing suit and getting it oveturturned due to the IFBB discovering technical conflicts.  ???

The same year Kevin was allowed to enter the Olympia although he was not a registered member of the IFBB nor did he have a contract to compete.

Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: Hulkster on January 20, 2006, 04:13:04 PM
Ronnie winning in 1998 was quite a shock too. out of nowhere.  Everyone thought Flex was a lock.
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: flexfan on January 20, 2006, 07:30:08 PM
Agree Doryan owned Shawn I have a tape. Shawn got owned not even close. Sorry Shawn

COmplete horeshit. That was one of the worst judged Os of all-time.
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on January 20, 2006, 08:31:19 PM
Like Nasser , Shawn never had a shot , he was never in the running with Haney and never in the running with a sub-par Yates.
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: Hulkster on January 20, 2006, 08:44:13 PM
had Shawn been flexing, his ab and thigh would have DESTROYED Dorian's.

dorian's ab and thigh was good BUT ONLY because he NEVER flexed his QUADS during the pose (his quads had little seperation):

(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy39.jpg)
notice how dorian never extended and flexed his quads.  He simply pressed down on the stage and showed his calves.

He should have been asked to actually flex his quads. 

And he would have lost the points that he deserved to lose for having quads that look like this:

(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy26.jpg)
no wonder dorian was so overrated:

If he had a flaw in a muscle group, he simply didn't pose the particular muscle involved, even when he was required to do so...

I'm suprised he didn't pose only one arm when asked to do a front double bi..

Dorian was the most overrated bb in history.

(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy179.jpg)
dorian hitting his "ab and calf" pose.

Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: DIVISION on January 21, 2006, 02:31:39 AM
Who cares, you guys stop living in the past and let it go already ::)

Thugs don't cry, Shawn.......

You need to recognize and move on.

Look within first......





DIV
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: Bear on January 21, 2006, 03:41:41 AM
isn't that what he's doing with that comment? wtf?
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: fathead on January 21, 2006, 05:06:26 AM
JOE WEIDER GIVING THE SPEECH AT LAST YEARS OLYMPIA LOOKING AND SOUNDING LIKE A MIX OF MICHEAL DUGLAS AND DICK CLARK.   IT WAS ACTUALLY REALLY SAD TO SEE.
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on January 21, 2006, 05:48:35 AM
had Shawn been flexing, his ab and thigh would have DESTROYED Dorian's.

dorian's ab and thigh was good BUT ONLY because he NEVER flexed his QUADS during the pose (his quads had little seperation):


notice how dorian never extended and flexed his quads.  He simply pressed down on the stage and showed his calves.

He should have been asked to actually flex his quads. 

And he would have lost the points that he deserved to lose for having quads that look like this:


no wonder dorian was so overrated:

If he had a flaw in a muscle group, he simply didn't pose the particular muscle involved, even when he was required to do so...

I'm suprised he didn't pose only one arm when asked to do a front double bi..

Dorian was the most overrated bb in history.


dorian hitting his "ab and calf" pose.



Again you basing Dorian should have lost on 2 bad pics , I've seen the viedo of the 1994 Mr Olympia , at the prejudging Yates tan was off , his stomach was bloated ( he said a stomach bug ) so he was having problems holding it tight , durring the night show he fixed is tan and his gut was a lot tighter , look at the pic I posted of the ab-thigh vs Shawn , its not even close , the only pose Yates should have lost was the front double biceps and thats it , Shawn Ray was never going to beat Dorian Yates , he didn't have the tools , if Flex Wheeler competed in 1994 he would have beat Yates and he was the ONLY one who could.
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: buffalo on January 21, 2006, 07:14:21 AM
I'll never forget seeing Dillett cramp up like that...they carried him offstage crying like a baby...his whole body was locked like he was made out of stone...that shit hurts...only one step away from a heart attack from dehydration
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: DIVISION on January 21, 2006, 02:44:21 PM
isn't that what he's doing with that comment? wtf?

Yes, but then he'll come on another thread and whine about some shit that happened in the past.

I've been here for awhile, I know Shawn's game......

Sometimes he wants sympathy, other times he tries to "keep it real".

The problem is that you either keep it real 100% of the time or you lose credibility.

Shawn hasn't learned this yet.




DIV
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: (nothing) on January 21, 2006, 02:57:15 PM
Who cares, you guys stop living in the past and let it go already ::)

there are no contests for a while, so we talk about old shit.
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: (nothing) on January 21, 2006, 03:01:25 PM
Like Nasser , Shawn never had a shot , he was never in the running with Haney and never in the running with a sub-par Yates.

i will admit that ray didn't give haney much run for the money but he still improving himself. in both of these shots i have shawn winning both.
ab thigh- shawn has more quad detail and a tighter mid section
front double- shawn again has a tighter mid, more quad detail, he is doing the vacum with clearly defined ribcage, and has both biceps in order to correctly hit the front double not the front single.
i think looked good and i don't shawn blew him away, i do think it was obvious that shawn won though.
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: bigalmckechnie on January 21, 2006, 04:15:13 PM
The most shocking thing would be the winner of an IFBB show who has not dropped anchor in Ben or joe Weiders Poo Bay sometime before the show.

Big Al
1975 Mr Scotland
1976 Medium Mr Europe placed
1977 Medium Mr Universe NABBA placed
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: Dark_Matter on January 21, 2006, 04:52:09 PM
The deaths of Momo, Muntzer.
Arnold winning the 1980's Olympia
Craig Titus & Kelly Ryan killing someone
Dorian winning the Olympia witha severly torn bicep
Ronnie winning in 2002
Dillet freezing onstage and had to be carried off

There are more, but this will do for now.
Peace
D
WELL DONE, you got em all!!
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: ANAL DISCHARGE on January 22, 2006, 12:34:19 PM
#1 shocking moment for most is when you find out that they all juice :'(
#1 for the regular................. .......
klaus
80' arnold win
94' dorian win over shawn
01' ronnie win over jay
momo's death
munzer's death
kelly and titus murder
bertil's murder
dillet freezing on stage





A joke about the 94.  If DY should have lost to anyone it should have been Levrone.
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: sculpture on January 22, 2006, 12:40:21 PM
I find it really difficult to believe jay cutler almost beat ronnie at the mr O 2002 considering he wasnt even there!!!
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: 240 is Back on January 22, 2006, 04:07:35 PM
I'm pretty shocked that Titus has only strangled one woman.

Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: knny187 on January 22, 2006, 04:17:49 PM

That's straight from the magazine.

Notice No Craig Titus or Kelly Ryan

& why do you think it was not in there Meddy?
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: 240 is Back on January 22, 2006, 04:25:59 PM
I bet Shawn Ray was pretty shocked when he took Sasha Ogata home and discovered she was...





Jewish.
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: hipolito mejia on January 22, 2006, 04:31:42 PM
Arnold in '80, Ronnie in '01

Both shocking.......consideri ng the circumstances......DIV



I don't see Arnold 's victory shocking......What's the hype???

50% of the people there considered Arnold the better man that day.

The other half had Boyer,Dickerson,Zane and Mentzer........

So by votes Arnold won!!

Is not like Jay Cutler's 2001 over Ronnie.......... that's something else.





Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: hipolito mejia on January 22, 2006, 04:48:49 PM

That's straight from the magazine.

Notice No Craig Titus or Kelly Ryan

That has NOTHING to do with bodybuilding.
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: hipolito mejia on January 22, 2006, 04:51:29 PM
Same with Bertli Fox...........

I guess Flex list was done before the Craiger's mess......

They're b.b criminals that should be in some other list.
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: Disgusted on January 22, 2006, 06:33:10 PM
Who cares, you guys stop living in the past and let it go already ::)
 

Because we can't live in the future now obviously.  ::)  BTW, Shawn will you be doing the commentating for the AC pay per view. ?
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: efirkey on January 22, 2006, 07:21:13 PM
& why do you think it was not in there Meddy?

they haven't had their day in court yet.
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: the shadow on January 23, 2006, 09:28:35 AM
according to Flew Magazine:

15.  Kal Szkalak Crucified (posed to protest contest placing)

14. Jay Cutler almost defeats Ronnie Coleman at 2002 Mr O

13.  New Pro Division fizzles (Wayne DeMilia)

12.  Promoter Arrested (Bernarr Macfadden. 1905 and in 19070

11. Joe vs Bob (Bob Hoffman, lawsuits and and rival orginazations)

10. Flex Wheeler attacked by ninjas

9.  Tonya Knight stripped of 1989 Ms. International title

8. Results questioned at 1982 Mr. O

7. Andreas Munzer dies

6. Bertil Fox charged with double murder

5. Schwarzenegger beats Olivia at 1972 Mr. O

4. Racism tarnishes the Mr America title

3. Sally McNeil charged with Ray McNeil's Murder

2. Mohamed Benaziza dies

1. Arnold Schwarzenegger returns to win 1980 Mr O
one of the most crappiest shock moments ever...i thought that there would have been more of olympia  related shock moments rather than weiders or a crucify shit like that.i thought pauls freezin on stage should have been mentioned and dorians 94 olympia should have been mentioned and colemans 2004 olympia win at a body weight of 296lbs
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: Shawn Ray on January 23, 2006, 04:31:18 PM
240, you should simply call Sasha already and stop being jealous that she/he wont talk to you :'(
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: HowDog on January 23, 2006, 05:35:37 PM
hey Ray Ray is Sasha hung?  hahaaha weirdo!!
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: phyxsius on January 23, 2006, 06:14:39 PM
Oh Shawn.. you just broke Sasha's heart.. you're only his hope
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: jaejonna on January 24, 2006, 07:15:27 AM
Who cares, you guys stop living in the past and let it go already ::)

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: chrisco57 on January 24, 2006, 08:45:20 AM
The KY shortage of 1998
THE EXCESS IN ,O2
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: Sasha Ogata on January 25, 2006, 02:40:37 PM
this is so stupid.

Shawn for you to put she/him in a sentance concerning me, is really rude. if you want to go there, i can open up about OUR past...

  so you wanna go there ??? And i wont lie about it.....like you.

The Freak----sasha
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: bigdumbbell on January 25, 2006, 02:42:55 PM
this is so stupid.

Shawn for you to put she/him in a sentance concerning me, is really rude. if you want to go there, i can open up about OUR past...

  so you wanna go there ??? And i wont lie about it.....like you.

The Freak----sasha

he doesnt respect you and thinks you are not going to heaven
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: Sasha Ogata on January 25, 2006, 02:44:51 PM
who the hell cares what he thinks, or you,  for that matter....

going to heaven, are you kidding me right now.....lol
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: bigdumbbell on January 25, 2006, 02:46:01 PM
who the hell cares what he thinks, or you,  for that matter....

going to heaven, are you kidding me right now.....lol

of course   lol    :D
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: Sasha Ogata on January 25, 2006, 02:48:28 PM
of course your stupid.......lol :P
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: Deadpool on January 25, 2006, 04:28:30 PM
it's you're, not your.



Peggy, baseballmom
Title: Re: 15 of the most shocking moments in bodybuilding?
Post by: Milly2Pac on January 26, 2006, 02:49:24 PM
I am surprised the major upset at the 2004 Metrolina wasnt mentioned