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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: the shadow on January 19, 2006, 11:08:39 PM
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this is always a question mark 4 me.r colemans arms 24inches or 23inches or 25 inches.....can any 1 tell me since diffrent magazine give diffrent arm measurements.his site says 24iches..on the IFBB site his arms r 24inches.so wats true 24,25 or 23inches??????
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No but his penis is
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i think so they r well above 23inches i guess!!!!!!!
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16" tops
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I've seen him in real life and I beleive they are well over 24"
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at the 2003 Olympia (at a supposed bodyweight of 287 pounds) many believe that his arms may have been 24'' in contest shape.. Crazy.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=50084.0;id=51597;image)
:o :o :o :o
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At least 28.
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16" tops
not your arm's goofball!
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Claims are claims until they are substantiated.
I'm sure coleman would let his arms get taped if someone puts it to him.
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they are just flat out huge son
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I'd say Ronnie's arms are somewhere around the 21'' mark, 22'' might be a possibility... but these figures of 24 and 25 inches are just ridiculous.
Greg Valentino's arms stretch the tape to 24.5 inches (he had them taped on Ripley's Believe It Or Not), Manfred Hoeberl at 6'5'' and 300 lbs had 25'' arms, and they looked horrifically disproportionate.
If Ronnie's arms were really 23 plus inches then the height of his arm from the peak of his flexed biceps to the belly of his tricep would be supstantially taller than his head. It's not! Ronnie's only 5'10''/5'11'', a 24'' arm would be about 10 or 11 inches tall... couldn't that be measured relative to Ronnie's height in a photo??
I'd go so far as to say Ronnie's arms might well be somewhere between 20.75 and 21.5 inches in competition shape. Any bigger than that and his arms would be sherical because the distance from Ronnie's deltoid tie-in to his forearm is only about 12 inches (if that).
Don't believe the hype!!
The Luke
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I'd say Ronnie's arms are somewhere around the 21'' mark, 22'' might be a possibility... but these figures of 24 and 25 inches are just ridiculous.
Greg Valentino's arms stretch the tape to 24.5 inches (he had them taped on Ripley's Believe It Or Not), Manfred Hoeberl at 6'5'' and 300 lbs had 25'' arms, and they looked horrifically disproportionate.
If Ronnie's arms were really 23 plus inches then the height of his arm from the peak of his flexed biceps to the belly of his tricep would be supstantially taller than his head. It's not! Ronnie's only 5'10''/5'11'', a 24'' arm would be about 10 or 11 inches tall... couldn't that be measured relative to Ronnie's height in a photo??
I'd go so far as to say Ronnie's arms might well be somewhere between 20.75 and 21.5 inches in competition shape. Any bigger than that and his arms would be sherical because the distance from Ronnie's deltoid tie-in to his forearm is only about 12 inches (if that).
Don't believe the hype!!
The Luke
The owner of MetroFlex said that when Ronnie first came to the gym he measured Ronnie's guns, and they were 21's. Now Ronnie's arms have definitely gotten bigger, so make the conclusion on that...
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Meh, lets make a conclusion based on fact, not heresay.
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At the picture of the bodyrock show his arms looked a lot smaller.
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The owner of MetroFlex said that when Ronnie first came to the gym he measured Ronnie's guns, and they were 21's. Now Ronnie's arms have definitely gotten bigger, so make the conclusion on that...
Yeah, you can trust every one of Ronnie's friends. There seems to be some sort of unwritten law that people follow to keep the myths of the pros going. Just like this Mick Jackson guy (see other thread) eating rats for contest prep with some of them even being live? Yeah, great protein source there. Or, how about the M&M diuretic stories? Just make up something possible- anything is possible- and most likely there is a pro out there that you can attach the outrageous story to.
Claims are claims until they are substantiated.
I'm sure coleman would let his arms get taped if someone puts it to him.
Joe Roark has tried to tape numerous BB'ing pros, and I know he attempted Hoeboerl (sp?) as well. The only person I seem to remember Roark being able to tape is Lee Priest. There is an older thread about the actual measurement of Lee's arms. However, I think most arm claims are Bullshit.... if it's too good to be true, then most likely it's not true.
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mine are only 17" and they lack the fullness, roundness and sheer size of ronies. i could well believe his arms are 6-7 inches larger than mine. even look at your own arms relaxed by your side then compare them to how thick and downright enormous ronnies are.
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Lee priest taped his own arm and posted it here
And its not that I don't believe that it could be 24 inches, just its not that hard to tape an arm and lay the matter to rest. The measurement doesnt' affect your placings, if your arms look big they are big, end of story.. as far as judging goes.
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23 or 24 is about right
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And its not that I don't believe that it could be 24 inches, just its not that hard to tape an arm and lay the matter to rest. The measurement doesnt' affect your placings, if your arms look big they are big, end of story.. as far as judging goes.
I concur about beleiving arms to be x amount of inches big. Of anyone that has made outrageous arm claims, I think Ronnie's would actually be true. However, when it comes to other pros I think most of it is horseshit. And it's easier said than done when it comes to taping someones arm. That's why I made the Roark reference, because the only person that stepped to the plate when he asked them to be able to measure their arm was Lee Priest. And I remember Priest having a 23" and some change arm.
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No priest doesn't have a 23 inch arm at contest, he measured them here and i'm pretty sure it was ~21
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ive talked to Ronnie,I asked him how big his arms are,he told me 23 inches when hes 300lbs,a touch smaler when on stage.That came streight from ronnie him self.To see his arms in person is a sight huge thick and riped.No other pros come close.And those who say he has no triceps dont know what there talking about.His tris are huge .you have to give the guy his props he does have awsome arms.
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Lee's are 21 off season,remeber hes only 5ft4.his arms will look biger at a smaller measurement.
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who cares if ronnie is a fat slob with 24 inch arms
atleast he's an american
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i belive these are 23 here
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Greg Valentino's arms stretch the tape to 24.5 inches (he had them taped on Ripley's Believe It Or Not), Manfred Hoeberl at 6'5'' and 300 lbs had 25'' arms, and they looked horrifically disproportionate.
Greg Valentino's full of oil. He is also a idiot
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Schwarzenegger & Oliva's arms were 20-21" cold in contest condition.
Lee's arms are probably somewhere in the 20-21" category-at 5'4" that's huge. No way he's anywhere near 23-he might have been if he was close to 6'.
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From my website:
Please, okay, pretty please, do not extrapolate that since Lee is shorter, that taller bodybuilders will have larger arms. Remember I measured Vince Taylor PUMPED at 19.75", and the following is COLD!
It is only my opinion, but Priest has the best arms- wrist to shoulder- in the history of bodybuilding.
now from ironhistory.com:
Yesterday (Oct 9, 2004, Saturday) at 9:31am I chatted with Lee Priest at the GNC Show of Strength Expo Hall, and asked if I could measure his wrist, his forearm in two positions, and his flexed upper arm.
He said he weighed about 235 as we spoke and that he was about 5'5" tall.
Keep in mind he was cold, had not worked out that morning.
His wrist measured 7-3/8".
His forearm- with the entire arm straight- including the hand straight from the wrist, but with his fist clenched, but not goosenecked, measured 15-3/4" and is the most incredible forearm I have ever seen in person. So he has the magical ratio of his forearm being twice as large as his wrist PLUS ONE INCH! Manfred Hoerbel did not have the 2:1 ratio!
Then he goosenecked his hand, and put his forearm at a right angle to his upper arm, and in that position his forearm measured 17".
His upper arm was simply unbelieveable, and it is my personal opinion that from wrist to shoulder he has the best all-round development in the history of bodybuilding- I will not argue- that's just my opinion. His upper arm measured an unbelieveable 21-1/4".
He mentioned that when pumped, he can add an inch, which is of course likely. So pumped, his arm would be over 22" which would be triple his wrist size!
He allows people to believe what they wish in regard to his arm size, and he related this story. He was at a department store counter when the female clerk commented that he had large arms, but that her relative had arms 'about twice as big as yours'. Lee just smiled and said he must be a big guy!
Another time someone said to him, "What do your arms measure, I will guess 23""
"You got it", replied Lee, and smiled and walked away.
Thus misinformation is born.
Here's the post that Joe made over at Ironage (same post he made here, but I couldn't find it @ GetBig).
My memory was at fault for the erroneous 23" claim, but hey, in the end, Lee is one of the few that have ever allowed a public measurement to be taken.
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no way man arnold's arms were 22.
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no way man arnold's arms were 22.
I believe it is
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yea just look at some of the pictures. the thing about arnold photos in the gym is that they dont do him justice. most of the pictures were taken after he broke his knee and lost all his leg mass. for the olympia he got it back but not completely
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i belive these are 23 here
19 and 5/8ths as measured cold by Arthur Jones.
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can you imagine Arnolds arms if he had comparable triceps!
RC stated in Flex about 4-5 years ago that his arms were 23" and his quads 35", he was at a bodyweight of around 255-260 i believe as he had either just done the O or was preparing for it. He was ripped in the accompanying picture so it is viable that he could have added 1-2" with the extra 40+lbs he gained.
If you honestly believe his arms to be less than 21" in contest shape "The Luke!" then get off the smack
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Height and weight figures are always inflated by professional atheletes. Bodybuilding is no exception.
I suspect Manfred Hoeberl, as massive as he was, used synthol.
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I'm sorry, but as much as I respect RC his arms are not 23-24 inches....I'd say 22 inches at best. Yes only a difference of 1-2 inches, but that's still a HUGE difference.
MOS
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Schwarzenegger & Oliva's arms were 20-21" cold in contest condition.
Lee's arms are probably somewhere in the 20-21" category-at 5'4" that's huge. No way he's anywhere near 23-he might have been if he was close to 6'.
I'd say that's about right.
Joe Roark, bodybuilding historian, measured Lee Priest's arms some time in 2005, and found them to be between 20-21" (can't remember the exact measurement). He also stated they were the most impressive arms he'd seen in terms of overall development, bis, tri and forearms.
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They look pretty dawn big to me! :o
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no way man arnold's arms were 22
Why not? Depends on the circumstances-always add another inch when pumped, and factor in larger measurements in off-season bulked shape when he was 250 lb. Then somewhere around that measurement's viable. Same for Oliva at a heavier weight, pumped.
Ron's arms are bigger in absolute terms IMO. Especially given that he's shorter and heavier than Schwarzenegger his arms are bigger in both absolute and relative terms. We're talking HUGE, in the Paul Dillet category.
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And of course, competitors' arms sizes can vary depending on size, weight, conditioning at various stages of their career.
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Either some of you are delusional or haters. To say Ronnie's arms are only is some serious BS. Mine are 19 and I've seen Coleman in person too many times to count and mine look like noodles next to his. I would say 24.
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this is always a question mark 4 me.r colemans arms 24inches or 23inches or 25 inches.....can any 1 tell me since diffrent magazine give diffrent arm measurements.his site says 24iches..on the IFBB site his arms r 24inches.so wats true 24,25 or 23inches??????
No, his arms are 23'. Compare that to Marko Savolainen's 25' arms, or Kovacs 27-28'.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Valentino's arms are much cooler than Manfred Hoerbel's ever were, but Manfred was a pretty good strongman so you've got to give hims points for that.
In 1993 when Manfred H. walked into Gold's Venice, we all looked at each other and started to laugh. We didn't know what was up, but we knew something was wrong. ;D
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Manfred Hoerbel looks like Johny Bravo!
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ok this will prove it. i am tall and although my arms here looks small they are a little over 17" cold flexed...just measured. they look maybe 15.5" but then again i dont ever trains biceps nor triceps. they do get hit indirectly though. lol flame away
compare them to the sheer size, thickness and density of ronnies and you could easily believe the size of them.
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Arnie's arms were skinny as shit in the off seaso. I'm sure Arthur's measurements were correct..but only on that particular day. Still, to say Arnie's arms were over 22, that's cartoons man, no way.
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BAM!
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a212/corndog7/leep.jpg)
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Well after much research and scientific help via the help of my good friends at NASSA, we have concluded through the findings of our studies that Ronnies arms are:--------
F@#King Huge !!
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everytime i see that pic of lee i cannot get over his forearms! my fuckin god!
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I always thought Arnold's were 22-23.
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22-23 inches. Come on you guys dont act like gullible fools who swallow all kinds of bb bullshit. If we consider colemans arms to circulate around the 23 inch mark at his heaviest then theres no way on earth arnolds were 22-23. A legitimate 20.5-21 at their max - but "even" this is a truly massive and musclular arm
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A legitimate 20.5-21 at their max - but "even" this is a truly massive and musclular arm
I suppose you're right.
What does that black say in Pumping Iron when he's posing at the prison? 21?
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I suppose you're right.
What does that black say in Pumping Iron when he's posing at the prison? 21?
he says 23, which i doubt.
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yeah and the other guy...all he says is big dude...big dude...all the way big dude.
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Yeah, but are we goin to trust a lifer who no doubt hasnt even taken a tape to arnolds arm! He was too busy tryin to give arnold a kiss! It think in arnolds case people believe the exaggerated claims since his biceps peak so bloody high; i reckon sergios were larger overall though.
As for levrones absurd 24" claim. What sort of idiots do these guys take us for?
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Yeah, but if that guy said "23 inch arms", then that's what Arnold told him they were.
He didn't just make that number up.
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I doubt Ronnie's arms were 24 inches back when he was "light". No way.
But, as you can see, they might have been 21 or 22" (??):
some of these shots are insane:
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1507&stc=1)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/rc37.jpg)
this pic is so crazy that people have claimed that it is morphed. I don't think so, since, as you can see from this shot and the one above it, back when ronnie was light, his arms actually overpowered the rest of his entire physique. They were always huge. Then the rest of him caught up and turned into this:
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/more%20pics/1999BritishGrandPrix_0070.jpg)
:o :o :o
*cums all over keyboard*
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Yeah, I always liked that last pic:
(http://brighton.ncsa.uiuc.edu/~prajlich/manfred/manfred6.jpg)
the dude looks like a nintendo character
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Yeah, I always liked that last pic:
(http://brighton.ncsa.uiuc.edu/~prajlich/manfred/manfred6.jpg)
the dude looks like a nintendo character
Haha, yes and gotta love the fanny-pack
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An interesting read on this topic:
www.t-nation.com/findArticle.do?article=body_91truth (http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle.do?article=body_91truth)
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think about it like this, Lees arms are always around 21" come contest and Ronnies arms are still much bigger onstage. Arnolds peak was fucking monsterous and it was that which made up his 22", but Ronnies biceps arent far behind but he has much, much thicker and bigger triceps
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Haha, yes and gotta love the fanny-pack
ya the fag bag is nice touch. Really compliments that snazy outfit of his.
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It think in arnolds case people believe the exaggerated claims since his biceps peak so bloody high; i reckon sergios were larger overall though.
You can see from pics that their arms are virtually the same absolute size, and Sergio's were accurately measured at close to 22" pumped. Sergio was shorter so in relative not absolute terms, his arms were bigger.
A legitimate 20.5-21 at their max
Which makes Arnold's 22" pumped arm viable.
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Ron's arms at about the same height as Sergio are bigger, so 22"-23" cold's believable:
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Dillet 23"-24" pumped, taller than Coleman at 6 feet.
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I don’t think Manfred used Synthol … he was bber in the beginning but most of the pix available are after that when he joinded the WSM … so he didn’t care much about how his arms look or measure rather than how much they can carry and hold.
Arnolds arms were 21.5-22
The old Ronnie (before 2003) use to be 22” and after that anything between 23.5-24”
I remember seeing a pic of Paul Dillet measuring his arm at 27”
P.S. was synthol available in the 1993-1994??
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Arnolds arms were 21.5-22
Pumped.
Dillet's arms weren't 27"-you're getting back into hype.
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P.S. was synthol available in the 1993-1994??
Here in America, you start hearing about wide spread Synthol use around late 1996. It would've started earlier in Europe, maybe 95ish.
Before that, it was silicone.
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I think dillet had the best balance between bicep and tricep of all those with 22+ inch arms.
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as far as size goes, at least at the Mr. Olympia 2000, Ronnie's arms did appear to be noticably larger than Lee's:
(http://www.getbig.com/pics/olympia/2000/finals/top6-02.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/pics/olympia/2000/finals/top6-04.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/pics/olympia/2000/finals/top6-07.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/pics/olympia/2000/finals/pose-04.jpg)
Hard to say what Lee's arms would have measured in contest shape, but at least in 2000, Ronnie's arms would have taped at least an inch or two larger.
But I doubt they would have been 24 inches back then.
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I believe it is
"I believe it is" ? ::)
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24inches? perhaps...
That particular shot is helping to create the illusion of larger arms due to the closeness of the camera and the type of lens.
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Looking at those '00 Olympia pics, Ronnie's arms are noticeably bigger than Lee's, which are around 20" at contest time. So Ronnie's are around 22" then...not 24". Keep in mind, that adding an extra inch when you've got arms already over +20", is actually a big difference because of the associated "volume" increase with that extra inch. Conversely, say going from 15" to 16", the "volume" increase is not as much. It's just a math principle.
Bottom line is, you gotta be big to have big arms. You won't see 200 lbs. guys with 20" arms. Lee is an extremely rare exception. Of course, superhuman genetics and AAS would have contributed to his outstanding arm development.
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didn't lee say his arms were abhout 20.5 come contest time and thats about arthur jones measured arnold and sergio at as well. so if ronnie has 22 in contest time it is beleivable, and since he dosen't go too fat during the off season i would say that they arm not much bigger during that time.
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It is also worth noting that, although Kevin Levrone claims 24 inch arms, Ronnie's arms in 2000 were noticably bigger than his too.
which means that kevins were no where near 24 inches.
But then we already knew this anyway..
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I shouldn't say "no where near" - Kevin has huge arms and are probably over 20 inches.
but they are not 24.
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It said in the flex '20 best arms' special that Paul Dillets arms where 24 inches. That I can believe especially with his height.
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It is also worth noting that, although Kevin Levrone claims 24 inch arms, Ronnie's arms in 2000 were noticably bigger than his too.
which means that kevins were no where near 24 inches.
But then we already knew this anyway..
Kevin at his best, contest time, were probably around 22" as well. He didn't have the biceps peaks that Ronnie's had, but his triceps were huge, making up for the difference. I think Kevin's triceps were bigger than Ronnie's.
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I think it was Muscular Development that had a picture of Dillet's arm being taped at 26". Could have been a bogus tape though.It was in his column,The Word. Seems a little rediculous,26".Dillets definately are the biggest though.Sick tris, no one really talks about them either. Everyone saying Arnolds are 20" need to wake up.My are 18" and Arnolds are sure as hell more than 2" bigger.I'd say 22".
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I think it was Muscular Development that had a picture of Dillet's arm being taped at 26". Could have been a bogus tape though.It was in his column,The Word. Seems a little rediculous,26".Dillets definately are the biggest though.Sick tris, no one really talks about them either. Everyone saying Arnolds are 20" need to wake up.My are 18" and Arnolds are sure as hell more than 2" bigger.I'd say 22".
Paul's tris .
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I think it was Muscular Development that had a picture of Dillet's arm being taped at 26". Could have been a bogus tape though.It was in his column,The Word. Seems a little rediculous,26".Dillets definately are the biggest though.Sick tris, no one really talks about them either. Everyone saying Arnolds are 20" need to wake up.My are 18" and Arnolds are sure as hell more than 2" bigger.I'd say 22".
All you need to do is add a little slack to the tape when you wrap it around your arm, thus it can read 26" in the front but there's two inches of slack that you can't see on the other side of the bicep. I can have the tape show my biceps are 22" with that trick. (They're really only 17)
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Someone on Ironage measured Gunter's arms at 22", and he is probably the biggest pro bodybuilder in the world. Makes you wonder about all these guys on the boards who claim 20" arms.
Do you have any idea how big a 24" arm would be? That's TWO FEET in circumference. By way of comparison, a 24" arm would have around 40% more cross sectional area than a 20" arm. I refuse to believe that any human being could be that big.
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I think it was Muscular Development that had a picture of Dillet's arm being taped at 26". Could have been a bogus tape though.It was in his column,The Word. Seems a little rediculous,26".Dillets definately are the biggest though.Sick tris, no one really talks about them either. Everyone saying Arnolds are 20" need to wake up.My are 18" and Arnolds are sure as hell more than 2" bigger.I'd say 22".
arthur jones measured arnold's arm, so you would have to bring that up with him.
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Couple more Arnold shots. Second one not very sharp, admittedly.
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This is not 22??
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22-23 inches. Come on you guys dont act like gullible fools who swallow all kinds of bb bullshit. If we consider colemans arms to circulate around the 23 inch mark at his heaviest then theres no way on earth arnolds were 22-23. A legitimate 20.5-21 at their max - but "even" this is a truly massive and musclular arm
I'm 6'4" and at biggest my arms were 21". I've seen Ronnie's arms in person. They are rediculously big. I couldn't stop staring at them and remember, I had 21" arms. :o
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To put all this into perspective:
Assuming a perfectly circular upper arm:
16'' arm has a cross sectional area of (162/12.566) =20.37243355 inches2
17'' arm has a cross sectional area of 22.998 inches2
18'' arm has a cross sectional area of 25.783 inches2
19'' arm has a cross sectional area of 28.728 inches2
20'' arm has a cross sectional area of 31.831 inches2
21'' arm has a cross sectional area of 35.094 inches2
22'' arm has a cross sectional area of 38.516 inches2
23'' arm has a cross sectional area of 42.097 inches2
24'' arm has a cross sectional area of 45.837 inches2
25'' arm has a cross sectional area of 49.737 inches2
26'' arm has a cross sectional area of 53.795 inches2
Does anyone notice the trend here??
The amount of muscle needed to increase the cross sectional area increases exponentially...
16'' to 17'' means gaining 2.626 inches2
17'' to 18'' means gaining 2.785 inches2
18'' to 19'' means gaining 2.944 inches2
19'' to 20'' means gaining 3.103 inches2
20'' to 21'' means gaining 3.262 inches2
21'' to 22'' means gaining 3.421 inches2
22'' to 23'' means gaining 3.581 inches2
23'' to 24'' means gaining 3.740 inches2
24'' to 25'' means gaining 3.899 inches2
25'' to 26'' means gaining 4.058 inches2
...there is a HUGE difference between a 17'' arm and an 18'' arm, the difference between a 20'' arm and a 21'' arm is ABSOLUTELY ENORMOUS.
By extrapolation, if you had to gain 15 lbs of bodyweight to go from a 16'' arm to a 17'' arm, then you'd still have to gain another 176 lbs of solid muscle to get 26'' arms.
Get real people... Ronnie's arms are probably around 22'' in contest shape... maybe 23'' at 320 lbs offseason.
Whereas Arnold was about 50 lbs of muscle away from having 22'' arms. Contest day... Arnold's arms were probably about 19'' maybe 19.5'' at most.
The Luke
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I'm 6'4" and at biggest my arms were 21". I've seen Ronnie's arms in person. They are rediculously big. I couldn't stop staring at them and remember, I had 21" arms. :o
that tells me that your arms aren't 21 inches.
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we dont need to see anymore arnold pics ...it's like enough overkill with ronnie and all the other over saturated winners
more pictures of paul please
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that tells me that your arms aren't 21 inches.
Ur dead right, chasm, they aren't 21" now at all. But they WERE. To be completely honest, I think my left was 20.5". I pull with my right hand, you see. ;)
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Ur dead right, chasm, they aren't 21" now at all. But they WERE. To be completely honest, I think my left was 20.5". I pull with my right hand, you see. ;)
of course they "were", "blaster". ::)
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of course they "were", "blaster". ::)
ATTACK, Mirzy, ATTACK!!!! >:(
DIV
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of course they "were", "blaster". ::)
What? Sarcy, ur not gonna rile me up, bro. I know ur game. ;)
They were 21. Dunno what they are now. Can't find a tape measure.
If it makes u feel better, I've got a small dick.
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Here's a couple of photos of a woman who was filmed in Bluff Creek, Northern California in 1967.
She didn't stick around for anyone to get any pictures... or measurements... but measurements taken at the site allowed photogrametric measurements estimating her proportions...
She apparently did indeed have a genuine, cold, 23'' arm... at 7'3'' and 530 lbs.
Enjoy!
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HEYA!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
I'm freakin packin tiny 18's ATM!
Fuck that!
Just used the old string and ruler method.
At least that's cold.
*Sigh* Time to hust the Sust again, I feel.
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I don’t think Manfred used Synthol
Manfred used Synthol, it is sure and has been already revelated
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To put all this into perspective:
Assuming a perfectly circular upper arm:
16'' arm has a cross sectional area of (162/12.566) =20.37243355 inches2
17'' arm has a cross sectional area of 22.998 inches2
18'' arm has a cross sectional area of 25.783 inches2
19'' arm has a cross sectional area of 28.728 inches2
20'' arm has a cross sectional area of 31.831 inches2
21'' arm has a cross sectional area of 35.094 inches2
22'' arm has a cross sectional area of 38.516 inches2
23'' arm has a cross sectional area of 42.097 inches2
24'' arm has a cross sectional area of 45.837 inches2
25'' arm has a cross sectional area of 49.737 inches2
26'' arm has a cross sectional area of 53.795 inches2
Does anyone notice the trend here??
The amount of muscle needed to increase the cross sectional area increases exponentially...
16'' to 17'' means gaining 2.626 inches2
17'' to 18'' means gaining 2.785 inches2
18'' to 19'' means gaining 2.944 inches2
19'' to 20'' means gaining 3.103 inches2
20'' to 21'' means gaining 3.262 inches2
21'' to 22'' means gaining 3.421 inches2
22'' to 23'' means gaining 3.581 inches2
23'' to 24'' means gaining 3.740 inches2
24'' to 25'' means gaining 3.899 inches2
25'' to 26'' means gaining 4.058 inches2
...there is a HUGE difference between a 17'' arm and an 18'' arm, the difference between a 20'' arm and a 21'' arm is ABSOLUTELY ENORMOUS.
By extrapolation, if you had to gain 15 lbs of bodyweight to go from a 16'' arm to a 17'' arm, then you'd still have to gain another 176 lbs of solid muscle to get 26'' arms.
Get real people... Ronnie's arms are probably around 22'' in contest shape... maybe 23'' at 320 lbs offseason.
Whereas Arnold was about 50 lbs of muscle away from having 22'' arms. Contest day... Arnold's arms were probably about 19'' maybe 19.5'' at most.
The Luke
This is true if you are measuring a circle. Most arms are not circles but elliptical. The cross sectional area of an ellipse can be significantly smaller given the same circumference. The higher the peak, the more elliptical.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=155329.0;attach=174157;image :o)
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I'd say Ronnie's arms are somewhere around the 21'' mark, 22'' might be a possibility... but these figures of 24 and 25 inches are just ridiculous.
Greg Valentino's arms stretch the tape to 24.5 inches (he had them taped on Ripley's Believe It Or Not), Manfred Hoeberl at 6'5'' and 300 lbs had 25'' arms, and they looked horrifically disproportionate.
If Ronnie's arms were really 23 plus inches then the height of his arm from the peak of his flexed biceps to the belly of his tricep would be supstantially taller than his head. It's not! Ronnie's only 5'10''/5'11'', a 24'' arm would be about 10 or 11 inches tall... couldn't that be measured relative to Ronnie's height in a photo??
I'd go so far as to say Ronnie's arms might well be somewhere between 20.75 and 21.5 inches in competition shape. Any bigger than that and his arms would be sherical because the distance from Ronnie's deltoid tie-in to his forearm is only about 12 inches (if that).
Don't believe the hype!!
The Luke
Too low; they're a lot bigger than Oliva or Arnold, who were already in the range you're claiming for Coleman. About 20.5" cold, close to 22" pumped for Arnold or Sergio.
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When I measured Manfred's arm at the Arnold, through a thorough mix-up, the photographer who was to record the event, did not show- perhaps because the schedule was bumped ahead (earlier) by 30 minutes.
At any rate, I was later told that some German television station recorded the measuring, but I have never been able to confirm it.
The only photos I have of the event are grainy shots taken from too far away by a friend.
Here's a gimmick you can use. If someone is working for a supplement company at a booth, ask if you can snap a photo of the can of protein powder right next to his bicep. Have a friend hold the can so that the bottom of the can is on the same plane as the bottom of the arm.
This will not be exact, by but knowing the height of the can, you can determine if the height of the arm is taller, or not. Manfred's arm was 10" tall when I measured it with calipers- and it was taller than two Pepsi cans we placed next to it.
Priest told me that he could add an inch by pumping his arms, which is reasonable. With lower bodyfat at contest time, arm size would decrease, and perhaps this is why so many bodybuilders are allergic to the tape measure near an event?
When I asked to measure Dillet's arm in Atlanta at the Olympia, he said I could measure it at the Arnold later...
As with lifting claims, measurement claims beg for verification, but usually no satisfaction is forthcoming.
Does it matter if someone's arm is 22" or 24"? Only if such a claim is made by the person. Then it is time for proof.
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Kevin at his best, contest time, were probably around 22" as well. He didn't have the biceps peaks that Ronnie's had, but his triceps were huge, making up for the difference. I think Kevin's triceps were bigger than Ronnie's.
Triceps were not that much bigger than Coleman's, just different shape and Coleman had a lot more in bis.
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I think it was Muscular Development that had a picture of Dillet's arm being taped at 26". Could have been a bogus tape though.It was in his column,The Word. Seems a little rediculous,26".Dillets definately are the biggest though.Sick tris, no one really talks about them either. Everyone saying Arnolds are 20" need to wake up.My are 18" and Arnolds are sure as hell more than 2" bigger.I'd say 22".
Coleman's were even bigger than Dillet, as seen here. Pause around the 7 second mark:
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arthur jones measured arnold's arm, so you would have to bring that up with him.
I don't believe Jones' measurement of Arnold's arm; lots of acrimony with Weider at the time and also Arnold may not have been in shape then. It's clear from the shots that Arnold and Oliva had about the same size, about 20.5" cold, close to 22" pumped, in shape and a little bigger off-season with more weight.
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To put all this into perspective:
Assuming a perfectly circular upper arm:
16'' arm has a cross sectional area of (162/12.566) =20.37243355 inches2
17'' arm has a cross sectional area of 22.998 inches2
18'' arm has a cross sectional area of 25.783 inches2
19'' arm has a cross sectional area of 28.728 inches2
20'' arm has a cross sectional area of 31.831 inches2
21'' arm has a cross sectional area of 35.094 inches2
22'' arm has a cross sectional area of 38.516 inches2
23'' arm has a cross sectional area of 42.097 inches2
24'' arm has a cross sectional area of 45.837 inches2
25'' arm has a cross sectional area of 49.737 inches2
26'' arm has a cross sectional area of 53.795 inches2
Does anyone notice the trend here??
The amount of muscle needed to increase the cross sectional area increases exponentially...
16'' to 17'' means gaining 2.626 inches2
17'' to 18'' means gaining 2.785 inches2
18'' to 19'' means gaining 2.944 inches2
19'' to 20'' means gaining 3.103 inches2
20'' to 21'' means gaining 3.262 inches2
21'' to 22'' means gaining 3.421 inches2
22'' to 23'' means gaining 3.581 inches2
23'' to 24'' means gaining 3.740 inches2
24'' to 25'' means gaining 3.899 inches2
25'' to 26'' means gaining 4.058 inches2
...there is a HUGE difference between a 17'' arm and an 18'' arm, the difference between a 20'' arm and a 21'' arm is ABSOLUTELY ENORMOUS.
By extrapolation, if you had to gain 15 lbs of bodyweight to go from a 16'' arm to a 17'' arm, then you'd still have to gain another 176 lbs of solid muscle to get 26'' arms.
Get real people... Ronnie's arms are probably around 22'' in contest shape... maybe 23'' at 320 lbs offseason.
Whereas Arnold was about 50 lbs of muscle away from having 22'' arms. Contest day... Arnold's arms were probably about 19'' maybe 19.5'' at most.
The Luke
All that and you're still too low. Oliva and Arnold's arms were around 20.5" cold, in shape. And Coleman's arms are clearly bigger maybe 22-23" cold in shape, then add another inch at least for a pumped measurement.
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no way man arnold's arms were 22.
You're easily confused. Arnold & Sergio both had arms around 22", pumped.
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Valentino's arms are much cooler than Manfred Hoerbel's ever were, but Manfred was a pretty good strongman so you've got to give hims points for that.
Cooler? ::)
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not even close to 23 or 24 inches
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i took the pic at the nationals and i have more
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not even close to 23 or 24 inches
When those were taken maybe. What a worthless post.
Were you as annoying there in person as you are here or did you actually have something positive to share?
Yates' 16s. Using your logic we should assume this was his peak condition LOL
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ive got more that show the "good" arm. dont be such a bitch when you boy aint as swollen as when he is in your mouth. this was nov 15 directly aftter the o and gp tour. not enough time to go off and shrink, dont even try that excuse.
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ive got more that show the "good" arm. dont be such a bitch when you boy aint as swollen as when he is in your mouth. this was nov 15 directly aftter the o and gp tour. not enough time to go off and shrink, dont even try that excuse.
Oh shut up you have nothing to contribute as always troll LOL
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stop crying
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ronnie said bowflex is worthless
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Ronnie's seperation and veins make his arms look bigger. His bis are still great but his tris just aren't too big anymore.
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2006 Ronnie may not have 24 inch arms.
but look at Ronnie 2004 :o: I wouldn't be surprised if they were as big as Dilletts:
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2006 Ronnie may not have 24 inch arms.
but look at Ronnie 2004 :o: I wouldn't be surprised if they were as big as Dilletts:
I don't think I have ever seen this pic, pretty crazy :o
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2006 Ronnie may not have 24 inch arms.
but look at Ronnie 2004 :o: I wouldn't be surprised if they were as big as Dilletts:
By the way, what statue is that in his hand? It's not the Sandow.
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its from the Moscow Grand Prix show.
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2006 Ronnie may not have 24 inch arms.
but look at Ronnie 2004 :o: I wouldn't be surprised if they were as big as Dilletts:
You guys should get our ass to the gym, and look these guys in real life. You can't measure them by the pictures or youtube clips, you have to see them yourself. I have seen bunch of old pro's in action while they were training for finnish grand prix, and they were big. I mean BIG. You can't see it from the picture, but every one of these pro's are so fucking big, that you cannot understand it before you see it in your own eyes.
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When those were taken maybe. What a worthless post.
Were you as annoying there in person as you are here or did you actually have something positive to share?
Yates' 16s. Using your logic we should assume this was his peak condition LOL
What a little fucking bitch you are. You basically just described yourself to the T
The hypocrisy from you is absurd.
F*ggot ::)
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ronnie said bowflex is worthless
Ronnie is right.
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Ronnie is right.
whoooooosssssshhhhhhhhhh
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2006 Ronnie may not have 24 inch arms.
but look at Ronnie 2004 :o: I wouldn't be surprised if they were as big as Dilletts:
That is one of the most insane pics I have ever seen. Ronnie's shoulders are almost twice the size of his head.
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You guys should get our ass to the gym, and look these guys in real life. You can't measure them by the pictures or youtube clips, you have to see them yourself. I have seen bunch of old pro's in action while they were training for finnish grand prix, and they were big. I mean BIG. You can't see it from the picture, but every one of these pro's are so fucking big, that you cannot understand it before you see it in your own eyes.
Someone who gets how much bigger they are in person. Pics and videos are good for comparing relative size or condition only.
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whoooooosssssshhhhhhhhhh
To summaryize Delta's trolling:
-He can't stand that Coleman's arms are 5" bigger than Yates'
-Clearly wants a bowflex LOL
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That is one of the most insane pics I have ever seen. Ronnie's shoulders are almost twice the size of his head.
people forget how massive Ronnie was in 2004..
it was certainly not his best shape, but was his largest and most full.
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To summaryize Delta's trolling:
-He can't stand that Coleman's arms are 5" bigger than Yates'
-Clearly wants a bowflex LOL
pumpy, good one bro. maybe ill go down to sears and give the bowflex a look ;)