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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Training Q&A => Topic started by: Donny on May 02, 2014, 04:44:31 AM
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anyone use These?
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Actually never seen that. ??? Looks painful.
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Itīs basically a free Hand Squat but you can lean back more.
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With the lower legs being planted in place (not moving) this is somewhat akin to leg extensions, but not quite. Not so much a actual squatting motion. But the name Roman Chair squats can still apply.
Getting a great more focus on the quads, excluding the hip and glutes (almost) with this movement. Also getting a much better stretch, as with the Sissy squat (a much over looked very good quad exercise). Roman Chair squats can be an exceptional exercise to bring out the full potential of the quads, but learning to do it the correct way will be the prime factor. The picture give a good example of the correct way. Some have added DB's in both hands, holding a 45lb (usually) plate/DB against the chest or a BB as if doing front squats. The old timers held a bar over head when doing these (real strongman stuff). Don't really need a lot of weight, or no weight at all, to get good quad results. RC's also work the abs. Could even do sit up's from the bottom position on a RC.
The equipment, shown in the pictures, is a nice example of a true Roman Chair. Some of the things that are past off, and want you to buy as Roman Chairs, are just poor attempts at the real thing. In high school, a friend made a version of a RC, a fine and useful piece of equipment. First thing I noticed was the stretch on the quads. Some of the guy's were really bring up the quads very nicely in a somewhat short period of time. Can make one with wood. Or if handy with welding/cutting, one from mental (pipe and sometimes angle iron). Some adapt to things in the gym to meet their needs.
Good Luck
Good Luck.
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Vince Gironda used this a lot in his Gym. Hack squats then These.. his idea was minimal hip and Glute involvement along with Sissy squats and leg curls.
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Would it be better if the pad that goes against your calves was angled back slightly and maybe adjustable? Looks like that would smash right down into the meat of your calf and be extremely uncomfortable.
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Vince Gironda used this a lot in his Gym. Hack squats then These.. his idea was minimal hip and Glute involvement along with Sissy squats and leg curls.
I've tried it - it was very stressful on the knees/patella tendon if you really lean back.
At least that's my experience.
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something idiotic tom platz would do ::)
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Would it be better if the pad that goes against your calves was angled back slightly and maybe adjustable? Looks like that would smash right down into the meat of your calf and be extremely uncomfortable.
maybe you do get adjustable models now. Not sure. I did think about getting one for my home gym.
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There is heavy padding on a well made RC, even home made ones. Though not sure if there are adjustable models, which would only seem a logical conclusion....probably are considering a guy 6'2 compared to being 5'5. No more discomfort than any other padded bar, machine, etc. Even roll bars have been used on RC's.
You do want the lower leg/calves pretty much at a 90 degree angle, slanting tends to throws the dynamic of the movement off some. Including the leverage. If using a RC yourself, this becomes clear right away. Only want to lean back a little to keep the main focus on the quads. If having a past history of knee problems, may want to avoid leaning back too far.
Roman Chairs can also be used as a superior ab exercise. Another forgotten exercise of great value. Planks (face up) , where you do lean back at a 90 degree angle, also done of a RC. Both hit the core (actually hate using that over worked term...Oh well) extremely well. A developed core adds strength, and even helps prevent injury, to so many exercises.
Good Luck.
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The Term Roman chair is used very loosly now. Roman Chair squats being the original. Later came the Roman Chair sit up on a similar aperatus but with a flat seat. Depicted in arnolds first book. Zabo did These Roman chair sit ups for a Long time not counting reps.
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A great Bodybuilder...
http://www.latimes.com/obituaries/la-me-zabo-koszewski2-2009may02,0,4210609.story#axzz30faWmtlw
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have used... seems like bottled water to me: something people buy for no reason
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Love how she does these...that thrusting ;D showing Roman chair squats
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I've tried it - it was very stressful on the knees/patella tendon if you really lean back.
At least that's my experience.
I would think most people would have knee pain from this exercise, as it puts the knee joint in a weak position from a leverage standpoint.
It's just another attempt to reinvent the wheel: sissy squats, pistol squats, goblet squats, Bulgarian squats etc.
IMO, none can touch regular squats, as long as you leave your ego at the door with regard to the amount of weight used.
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Gladys Portugues ...great Body... :P
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reminds me of sissy squats
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this looks like murder on the knees
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anyone use These?
I used one a couple of times. The second gym I belonged to had one custom made.
I've always thought of it as a glute-ham raise "type" movement for the quads.
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I used one a couple of times. The second gym I belonged to had one custom made.
I've always thought of it as a glute-ham raise "type" movement for the quads.
yes i agree does hit the Hammies well too... Hammies i think was your word one time ;D
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yes i agree does hit the Hammies well too... Hammies i think was your word one time ;D
I'm chalked full of unique verbiage!!
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Funky my knees hurt looking at that... ;D Definitely stretch the quads but i always found it better for me leaning back on leg extensions.
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inverted upside down hanging full squats would build insane abs hip flexors and hams
only see these shallow ones
guess it's too hard for these homos
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Most athletes include Sissy squats, of similar forms of quad stretching, in training. It can be a lesson in pain at first when learning to do them the right way (book, video or from someone who has had experience doing them). Worth the effort after awhile. Can be a question of balance for some, so it needing support use it. Don't need any weight, but try doing them slowly, working towards a full stretch each rep. You want burn......here it is.
Hanging sit-up's have been around a very long time. Simple exercise with great results, because it hit's the low and upper ab's in the same movement. Also the lower back & hams. Inverted boots are being used in the video but most guys will use the hock behind the knees to lock into that upside down position....which can affect the hams even more because the hams are in a semi contracted state. It's just a basic schoolyard or public park movement you can see most everywhere. Guys with bad backs, who use inverted boards, will also do reverse situps. Ab hangs (slang) can be used in a PR or Smith Machine also....probably easier for a lot of folks.
Seen a couple of gymnast do reverse sit-up with the legs wrapped around a climbing rope. Which reminds me: rope climbing is an excellent upper body exercise, including the forearms and biceps. Of course, also improving the grip along the way. Doing them with the legs held at a 90 degree angle...more the better. Chins are a good combo with rope climbs....potential exceptional back developments.
Good Luck.
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the worst advice you can tell someone is work through pain...pain is not a "lesson" ::). if it Hurts stop the exercise and find a safer alternative. Definitely never take advice of an "Internet Expert" who claims to do GOOD MORNING 10x10 with 90 secs rest between sets with a weight of 315lbs. when challenged claimed it was...Um mm 3/4 reps. Also claims of BOUNCING STIFF LEGGED DEADLIFTS. Although the weight he would not say.