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Who has tried this ?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=487078.0;attach=538433;image)
A friend of mine has been taking it for a while and he looks lean (arnold S 1980 lean ) but smaller ...
He still drinks on weekend light beer though ...is this too strong to put stress on your liver if mixed with alcohol?
Any info ,appreciate it I want to give it a try
WoooSSHHHHHHHH BeYeKe
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its very strong cant believe its legal
groink put me onto it
their xt is even stronger
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Definitely take some Liver support and stay hydrated. Anything Methylated is very strong on the Liver.......
I use a product called Restore by Formutech...
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its very strong cant believe its legal
groink put me onto it
their xt is even stronger
Yes, my friend looks really jacked he swears he's just using that Methyl-Tren..
very tempting.
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Definitely take some Liver support and stay hydrated. Anything Methylated is very strong on the Liver.......
I use a product called Restore by Formutech...
"Restore" do you use it to avoid stress on liver, do u use it while on Methyl-Tren ? or right after ending cycle (bottle)
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I am tempted to get some just because its definitely gonna get banned soon. Anything that effective will have to be controlled IMMEDIATELY.
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What's the dosing on this stuff? It looks like it's roughly $50 USD for 60 caps.
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What's the dosing on this stuff? It looks like it's roughly $50 USD for 60 caps.
It says to start first week with 2 caps a day ...then 3 daily until end of bottle
That will be 30 mgs daily for a month......I'm afraid that's a bit too much that's what I'm asking really, if anyone has used it and for how long....
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It says to start first week with 2 caps a day ...then 3 daily until end of bottle
That will be 30 mgs daily for a month......Im affriad thats a bit too much that's what I'm asking really, if anyone has used it and for how long....
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Don't be a pussy, just take it. When your piss starts looking like syrup lower the dose. Skin starts going yellow and you itch, same thing, lower the dose.
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Don't be a pussy, just take it. When your piss starts looking like syrup lower the dose. Skin starts going yellow and you itch, same thing, lower the dose.
But wouldn't it be too late at that point?
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But wouldn't it be too late at that point?
Pffft. Pussy. Just get on the transplant list at that point. Duh!
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This is the XT version, correct?
http://www.amazon.com/Genetech-Pharma-Methly-Tren-capsules/dp/B00F1U13F0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1399903840&sr=8-2&keywords=methyl+tren
Why is it stronger? More in each tab?
Looking at the ingredients, it appears to have some liver protection built-in.
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Pffft. Pussy. Just get on the transplant list at that point. Duh!
No one is as lucky as Flex "the natural Freak" Wheeler when it comes to get a phone call telling you that a healthy organ is ready to be installed for you.
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BeYeKe
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What's the dosing on this stuff? It looks like it's roughly $50 USD for 60 caps.
In this site they suggest you use 4 caps a day.
http://www.illpumpyouup.com/genetech-pharma-labs/methyl-tren-550.htm
Followed by a good PCT
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Stop messing with your liver, learn how to handle a needle ::)
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Stop messing with your liver, learn how to handle a needle ::)
Can't we do both?
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The body can handle a lot more than we give it credit for a lot of pills for pains are hard on the liver also plus when we go out and get hammered on the weekends, if you do it in short cycles and take some liver support you should be ok.
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Can't we do both?
I regret it that I've ordered dbol, since I always did injectables, but my curiosity was stronger than my ratio :-\
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brufen is harsher on your liver than orals
so is aspirin
its all in the dose
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I took some 19-nor prohormones in the 90's that fucking crashed my libido.
Is "Methyl-Tren" really tren? Or something else?
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its very strong cant believe its legal
groink put me onto it
their xt is even stronger
Sides?
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Sides?
Death.
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Death.
If I get flaccid dick there's no reason to take it :P
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If I get flaccid dick there's no reason to take it :P
That too. Nothing that a little "research" Cialis can't fix, tho...
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Sides?
gyno
you need an ai
also a little sweating and insomonia
but mild versions of
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gyno
you need an ai
also a little sweating and insomonia
but mild versions of
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Looks like ordinary "steronz" then. Thought it was something milder, a pro-hormone
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The body can handle a lot more than we give it credit for a lot of pills for pains are hard on the liver also plus when we go out and get hammered on the weekends, if you do it in short cycles and take some liver support you should be ok.
What exactly would be a good liber support'?
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why not just run tren ace which is less toxic to your liver?
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7a-Methyl-estra-4-en-3,17-dione (Mentabolan, MENT, 7-MENT)
AKA 7a-methyl-19-norandrostenedione, Mentabolan, MENT dione, Trestione.
A brand new prohormone from Prohormone Forum/IBE. It was synthesized and tested for anabolic and androgenic activity in 1963.
This compound is a "19-nor", or nandrolone derivative, and differs from nandrolone in that this hormone has a 17-ketone, where nandrolone has a 17b-hydroxy function, and also has the addition of a 7a-methyl group. In the same way as "Boladrol" is a 7a-methylated dione version of methyl testosterone, this compound is a 7a-methylated dione version of nandrolone.
Effects should be similar to the injectable trestolone acetate. It's a strongly anabolic, moderately androgenic compound which should elicit significant strength gains and increased muscle mass at an appropriate dosage.
Side-effects may include those common to anabolic androgenic steroids, including but not limited to: blood pressure increases, HPTA disruption, adverse shifts in lipoprotein subfractions (increased HDL, lowered LDL cholesterol), acne, hair growth or loss. This product should not be used by women or teens. There's evidence of aromatization to some degree, so the gyno-prone may wish to either avoid this compound or co-administer an aromatase inhibitor (AI) or selective estrogen receptor modulator (SERM) while using it.
One side-effect that many might fear from this compound is the loss of libido and/or erectile dysfunction often seen with 19-nor derivatives. Tests conducted with the target hormone trestolone (MENT) have found that it had a positive mood, libido, and erection-stimulating effect similar to that of testosterone, though this may not necessarily hold true with the supraphysiological doses used by bodybuilders.
This is a "dione" prohormone. In the body, the ketone at C17 will be hydrolysed by 17b-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type 1 (17b-HSD1) into the active compound trestolone (MENT). Trestolone itself has been shown to be roughly 6 times as anabolic as methyl test by oral administration, and around 2.5 times as androgenic.
Trestolone shows no affinity for SHBG, so all of the converted compound in circulation should be bioavailable. For the same reason, it's likely to have a short terminal half-life so frequent dosing is suggested.
Testosterone and similar delta-4 steroids are typically converted to stronger compounds like DHT and DHT derivatives by the enzyme 5-alpha reductase (5AR). 19-nor compounds are an exception to this rule, with 5a-reduced nandrolone (or 19-nor DHT) being a far less potent androgen than nandrolone itself. The 7a-methylation of trestolone hinders the reduction of this double bond, so delta 5(10) isomers are a major excreted metabolite. This means the 7a-methyl group not only makes the compound stronger by increasing androgen receptor affinity, but also reduces the ability of the body's enzymes to break it down into weaker metabolites.
The addition of the 7a-methyl group has a flattening effect on the molecule which improves androgen receptor binding. MENT is a strong compound for several reasons, but the primary reason for its strength is the increased androgen receptor affinity caused by the conformational changes of the 7a-methyl group.
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What exactly would be a good liber support'?
Liver support is fucking bullshit.
This is Mentabolan, a nandrolone clone. It is just a basic oral anabolic steroid...19-nor steroids are liver toxic, no milk thistle will stop any damage from being done whatsoever.
This hormone will shut you down.
You need to take test with it. Topical gel, oral test lozenges, or injectable.
If you completely come off of this drug as well as test, you will lose 100% of whatever gains you made while on it. The gains were supported by high test levels, and strength, aggression and etc. perpetuated by the Mentabolan.
IT is not a "prohormone" it is not a "test booster" it is an oral steroid...Big fucking deal.
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brufen is harsher on your liver than orals
so is aspirin
its all in the dose
This is true, orals aren't that horrible at all, it's all in the total dose, and ancillaries. Here is the medical dosing guidelines for Anadrol -
"The recommended daily dose in children and adults is 1-5 mg/kg body weight per day. The usual effective dose is 1-2 mg/kg/day but higher doses may be required, and the dose should be individualized. Response is not often immediate, and a minimum trial of three to six months should be given. Following remission, some patients may be maintained without the drug; others may be maintained on an established lower daily dosage. A continued maintenance dose is usually necessary in patients with congenital aplastic anemia. " .
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brufen is harsher on your liver than orals
so is aspirin
its all in the dose
Wonder how they get away with making commercials for Aleve (stronger than Tylenol) where the actor takes 4-8 pills a day.
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You can't say an NSAID is worse or better for the liver than an oral steroid. They are different drugs and the mechanisms behind the potential damage are different.
A painkiller may be quite safe in a certain dosage, even over very long periods of use, yet will kill from acute toxicity when OD'd. An anabolic steroid may cause cholestasis in a susceptible individual even in "recommended dosage"... or may cause liver cysts to be formed. Different drugs.
But generally oral steroids rarely cause serious problems.
Wonder how they get away with making commercials for Aleve (stronger than Tylenol) where the actor takes 4-8 pills a day.
Are you saying the commercials show a person overdosing the drug? Hard to believe.
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7a-Methyl-estra-4-en-3,17-dione (Mentabolan, MENT, 7-MENT)
AKA 7a-methyl-19-norandrostenedione, Mentabolan, MENT dione, Trestione.
A brand new prohormone from Prohormone Forum/IBE. It was synthesized and tested for anabolic and androgenic activity in 1963.
This compound is a "19-nor", or nandrolone derivative, and differs from nandrolone in that this hormone has a 17-ketone, where nandrolone has a 17b-hydroxy function, and also has the addition of a 7a-methyl group. In the same way as "Boladrol" is a 7a-methylated dione version of methyl testosterone, this compound is a 7a-methylated dione version of nandrolone.
Effects should be similar to the injectable trestolone acetate. It's a strongly anabolic, moderately androgenic compound which should elicit significant strength gains and increased muscle mass at an appropriate dosage.
Side-effects may include those common to anabolic androgenic steroids, including but not limited to: blood pressure increases, HPTA disruption, adverse shifts in lipoprotein subfractions (increased HDL, lowered LDL cholesterol), acne, hair growth or loss. This product should not be used by women or teens. There's evidence of aromatization to some degree, so the gyno-prone may wish to either avoid this compound or co-administer an aromatase inhibitor (AI) or selective estrogen receptor modulator (SERM) while using it.
One side-effect that many might fear from this compound is the loss of libido and/or erectile dysfunction often seen with 19-nor derivatives. Tests conducted with the target hormone trestolone (MENT) have found that it had a positive mood, libido, and erection-stimulating effect similar to that of testosterone, though this may not necessarily hold true with the supraphysiological doses used by bodybuilders.
This is a "dione" prohormone. In the body, the ketone at C17 will be hydrolysed by 17b-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type 1 (17b-HSD1) into the active compound trestolone (MENT). Trestolone itself has been shown to be roughly 6 times as anabolic as methyl test by oral administration, and around 2.5 times as androgenic.
Trestolone shows no affinity for SHBG, so all of the converted compound in circulation should be bioavailable. For the same reason, it's likely to have a short terminal half-life so frequent dosing is suggested.
Testosterone and similar delta-4 steroids are typically converted to stronger compounds like DHT and DHT derivatives by the enzyme 5-alpha reductase (5AR). 19-nor compounds are an exception to this rule, with 5a-reduced nandrolone (or 19-nor DHT) being a far less potent androgen than nandrolone itself. The 7a-methylation of trestolone hinders the reduction of this double bond, so delta 5(10) isomers are a major excreted metabolite. This means the 7a-methyl group not only makes the compound stronger by increasing androgen receptor affinity, but also reduces the ability of the body's enzymes to break it down into weaker metabolites.
The addition of the 7a-methyl group has a flattening effect on the molecule which improves androgen receptor binding. MENT is a strong compound for several reasons, but the primary reason for its strength is the increased androgen receptor affinity caused by the conformational changes of the 7a-methyl group.
WoooSSHHH BeYeKe
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You can't say an NSAID is worse or better for the liver than an oral steroid. They are different drugs and the mechanisms behind the potential damage are different.
A painkiller may be quite safe in a certain dosage, even over very long periods of use, yet will kill from acute toxicity when OD'd. An anabolic steroid may cause cholestasis in a susceptible individual even in "recommended dosage"... or may cause liver cysts to be formed. Different drugs.
But generally oral steroids rarely cause serious problems.
Are you saying the commercials show a person overdosing the drug? Hard to believe.
Stop questioning everything I post. It's annoying.
Just watch this. He takes tylenols repeatedly through the day, every day (it's implied he can't work without them) instead of two aleves. That's like throwing your kidneys in the microwave.
http://www.ispot.tv/ad/7Inj/aleve-kevins-delivery (http://www.ispot.tv/ad/7Inj/aleve-kevins-delivery)
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I just asked a Doctor about "liver support" pills/supps and he said there's no such thing.
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did you ask him about the potential damage of these supplements
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Definitely take some Liver support and stay hydrated. Anything Methylated is very strong on the Liver.......
I use a product called Restore by Formutech...
I just asked a Doctor about "liver support" pills/supps and he said there's no such thing.
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Wonder how they get away with making commercials for Aleve (stronger than Tylenol) where the actor takes 4-8 pills a day.
That commercial has the actor taking the 4-8 for the drug that Aleve is competing against. It's the whole point of the ad - to show you only need Aleve once a day.
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did you ask him about the potential damage of these supplements
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I did, but vaguely he said that if product is sold over the counter it shouldn't have controlled substances "anabolic ingridients" ...but since the side effects are labeled on the bottle those are pretty much the damage/risk youre willing to take .... Methyl-tren seems legit and affordable
he did mention that male bodybuilders/gym rats go to his office on daily basis to have theyre test levels counted hoping they're low enough so they can have prescription/green light to inject....when results say otherwise then they tell him if he can pleaseee hook them up anywyas.
WoooSSHHHHHHHHH
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brufen is harsher on your liver than orals
so is aspirin
its all in the dose
By my experience i have to disagree with you. A couple of weeks using very small dose of dianabol destroyed my liver function. Never happened with aspirin or brufen or paracetamol.
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By my experience i have to disagree with you. A couple of weeks using very small dose of dianabol destroyed my liver function. Never happened with aspirin or brufen or paracetamol.
how much d bol
its all in the dose
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By my experience i have to disagree with you. A couple of weeks using very small dose of dianabol destroyed my liver function. Never happened with aspirin or brufen or paracetamol.
How did you find out? Dark piss, blood work?
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damn you guys need to just buy some real steroids why fuck with this prohormone shit? All the really good designer drugs and pro-hormones have already been jacked from julias vida years ago and most are all banned. just buy some real Anavar it will get you strength and get you ripped plus it is not very harsh on the liver or the HPTA. If you want to use tren just buy some and shoot it or methyl tren just buy the real shit. if you canlt find where to buy it from a legit source you shouldn"t be using. I am not against all designer steroids or prohormones but at this point there all used up.
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By my experience i have to disagree with you. A couple of weeks using very small dose of dianabol destroyed my liver function. Never happened with aspirin or brufen or paracetamol.
So in just a matter of weeks your liver was damaged? Damn that shit is toxic !!
How did you find out?
what did you do after ?
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damn you guys need to just buy some real steroids why fuck with this prohormone shit? All the really good designer drugs and pro-hormones have already been jacked from julias vida years ago and most are all banned. just buy some real Anavar it will get you strength and get you ripped plus it is not very harsh on the liver or the HPTA. If you want to use tren just buy some and shoot it or methyl tren just buy the real shit. if you canlt find where to buy it from a legit source you shouldn"t be using. I am not against all designer steroids or prohormones but at this point there all used up.
Spot on. well said.
Let me see..... They want to take steriods??
Oh but they want to be Natural..!!!
So they are natural as long as they're legal.
When they are banned does that then make
them a Drugs cheats. ???
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Spot on. well said.
Let me see..... They want to take steriods??
Oh but they want to be Natural..!!!
So they are natural as long as they're legal.
When they are banned does that then make
them a Drugs cheats. ???
Almost every natural has used some shit that is illegal. has anybody gone to usada's website and checked out all the shit that is banned and will get you disqualified? it's one crazy fucking list and I gaurantee every natural has used one of the products on the list. their are no Real naturals anymore but we do have the FDA to thabnks for that by banning all these supplements and adding every single stimulant to the list. Hell if you have asthma medication you better be careful.
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Let's face it, the OP is simply afraid of the needle and loosing his hair.