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the name will get MORE play now. People can use it freely. There will be all these witty and cruel and insightful kinds of merchandise now. Bootlegs anywhere and plenty of add'l exposure for the team name. It won't take but 5 minutes for some smart local company to come up with a BETTER logo, funnier RG3 jerseys, etc.
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Leave it to the left to fuck up something that's been around for 80 years. Obama is a useless twat and seriously needs to get a fucking job that he won't be a fuck up at.
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http://news.yahoo.com/trademark-board-rules-against-redskins-142056503.html
That worthless twink bitch Obama at it again
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Leave it to the left to fuck up something that's been around for 80 years. Obama is a useless twat and seriously needs to get a fucking job that he won't be a fuck up at.
Article doesn't mention Obama!?
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I declare this smack a liberal day.
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Article doesn't mention Obama!?
http://www.ijreview.com/2014/06/148429-president-obama-stripping-washington-redskins-trademarks-owner-refused-give-team-name/
This is how the Obama administration rolls. Get in a confrontation with the president, and some IRS branch patent office makes trouble for you. That’s how “community organizers” do business. That’s the Chicago Way.
The latest example? After Washington Redskins owner Dan Snyder made it painfully, abundantly clear that he believes their team name is a tribute to their historic legacy and an honorable reflection of the spirit they aim to incorporate, a lowly patent office clerk just went ahead and cancelled their trademarks.
Mashable reports on this strange, politically vindictive, and probably illegal turn-of-events:
The decision from the U.S. administrator read, “…these registrations must be cancelled because they were disparaging to Native Americans at the respective times they were registered…”
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The move affects six registrations and was brought about by a petition from five Native Americans. The office found that “a substantial composite of Native Americans found the term REDSKINS to be disparaging in connection with respondent’s services during the relevant time frame of 1967-1990.”
As for radical activists feigning to speak for all Native Americans (check out this photo essay response to a recent anti-Redskins ad) as well as for the American people, Dan Snyder’s attorney Lanny J. Davis put it well:
“As a supporter of President Obama, I am sure the president is not aware that in the highly respected Annenberg Institute poll (taken 2004) with a national sample of Native Americans, 9 out of 10 Native Americans said they were not bothered by the name the ‘Washington Redskins.’
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“The president made these comments to the Associated Press, but he was apparently unaware that an April 2013 AP poll showed that eight out of ten of all Americans in a national sample don’t think the Washington Redskins name should be changed.
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“We at the Redskins respect everyone. But like devoted fans of the Atlanta Braves, the Cleveland Indians and the Chicago Blackhawks (from President Obama’s hometown ), we love our team and its name and, like those fans, we do not intend to disparage or disrespect a racial or ethnic group.
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“The name ‘Washington Redskins’ is 80 years old – it’s our history and legacy and tradition. We Redskins fans sing ‘hail to the Redskins’ every Sunday as a word of honor not disparagement.”
The timing of this move is pretty convenient for the president and is a classic example of both the distraction politics this administration is good for and the lack of seriousness of his administration.
This is clearly petty revenge served up by a president who has little regard for the law or respect for free speech. Just because you are “offended” by something, doesn’t mean you get to violate other people’s rights. This move is obviously less about the Redskins than it is about the president’s thin skin.
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I hate the Redskins and I don't really give a fuck about this issue but I think the decision was wrong.
I don't see how merely calling the team the Redskins is disparaging. It's not like the team is called the Drunken Redskins or the Smelly Redskins. The name makes no judgement on Native Americans at all, it merely states that their skin is red which it sometimes is. There's nothing wrong with their skin and I don't see that anyone is saying that there is. If anything, the team is celebrating Native Americans overall.
If people don't like it they shouldn't go to the games. I don't understand this desire to eradicate anything that people don't like. Liberal douchebag crusaders.
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I'm predicting it now... we're going to see a TON of Redskins merch now, all over the place. The name and likeness is wide open now. Bootlegger's delight - a young team with a troubled superstar, a politically charged name... people who don't even care about the team/sport will be wearing the bootleg shit just to fight 'the man'.
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if you ask me, the 'FORKED TONGUES' would be quite apt for a team based in washington.
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(http://coedbc.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/washington-redskins-cheerleaders-8.jpg)
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Stupid Harry Reid is all for this BS.
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So who at the patient office gets to vote on what is an isn't "disparaging"? And why now after it was fine for so many decades?
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I hate the Redskins and I don't really give a fuck about this issue but I think the decision was wrong.
I don't see how merely calling the team the Redskins is disparaging. It's not like the team is called the Drunken Redskins or the Smelly Redskins. The name makes no judgement on Native Americans at all, it merely states that their skin is red which it sometimes is. There's nothing wrong with their skin and I don't see that anyone is saying that there is. If anything, the team is celebrating Native Americans overall.
If people don't like it they shouldn't go to the games. I don't understand this desire to eradicate anything that people don't like. Liberal douchebag crusaders.
"Redskins" is a slur... it would be like having a team called the "Baltimore Coloreds" or the "Tallahassee Dotheads".
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"Redskins" is a slur... it would be like having a team called the "Baltimore Coloreds" or the "Tallahassee Dotheads".
But when was it considered a slur? If the patient office allowed it to be registered say last year, what has changed since last year?
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Fact: The term "Redskins" is racist and discriminatory in nature. If Native Americans feel this way, and Native Americans have come out and flat out said they feel this way, then I believe it would be in the best nature of the Washington Redskins organization to change the team name. I also believe Dan Snyder has the right to keep the team name the Redskins, whatever the consequences are(which will end up being sponsorships, endorsements and deals/contracts being pulled from the Redskins). IMO, we are a progressive culture and it is time to progress again.
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(http://coedbc.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/washington-redskins-cheerleaders-8.jpg)
better obliques than Mr O
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Fact: The term "Redskins" is racist and discriminatory in nature. If Native Americans feel this way, and Native Americans have come out and flat out said they feel this way, then I believe it would be in the best nature of the Washington Redskins organization to change the team name. I also believe Dan Snyder has the right to keep the team name the Redskins, whatever the consequences are(which will end up being sponsorships, endorsements and deals/contracts being pulled from the Redskins). IMO, we are a progressive culture and it is time to progress again.
There were FIVE that complained about it. Most everyone else could give a shit. Even if 50,000 found it racist, fuck em, they have self-esteem issues. Political correctness has ruined this country.
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(http://coedbc.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/washington-redskins-cheerleaders-8.jpg)
Makin my foreskin red
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This is like the 3rd time the courts have tried that. ::)
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Eh, when was the last time the Native Americans complained about anything? Heck, when was the last time you watched the news and saw a Native American as a serial killer, child molester, bank robber, etc?
I can let this slide. Let them have their victory! ;D ;D
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Eh, when was the last time the Native Americans complained about anything? Heck, when was the last time you watched the news and saw a Native American as a serial killer, child molester, bank robber, etc?
I can let this slide. Let them have their victory! ;D ;D
Seriously, what does that have to do with this? You're talking about a name a team has used for over 80 years and you have some butthurt Indians (am I allowed to say that)that bitch about it. They want that organization to pay what? Maybe $50-100mil to rebrand? Fuck that. It's cheaper to pay the fines and watch Obama fail and Harry Reid have a heart attack.
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This makes no sense why are the redskins targeted? So what about the Florida seminoles or the Chicago blackhawks ffs they have a Indian head for their logo to. Never once have I heard of anyone finding any sports team based off an Indian tribe to be disrespectful. This is just crap.
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My high school football team had a name change from Redmen to Redhawks or some BS! We had the name for over 50 years and even the native Americans in the town testified that they were honored by the name as it represented the warrior spirit in their view.
The libtards somehow got it changed! ???
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Lol'd at this..
Looks like the US, like Sweden, has some "hypersensitive" racism issues too.
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Seriously, what does that have to do with this? You're talking about a name a team has used for over 80 years and you have some butthurt Indians (am I allowed to say that)that bitch about it. They want that organization to pay what? Maybe $50-100mil to rebrand? Fuck that. It's cheaper to pay the fines and watch Obama fail and Harry Reid have a heart attack.
Dude, its a fucking joke. Stop being such a whiny bitch.
You didn't see my "smiley" faces at the end? I bet you're the only who could not decipher that I was being facetious.
I do not care what happens to their football name.
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What's next? Outlawing Brits from sunbathing?
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/06/28/article-1289734-0A39817A000005DC-653_306x604.jpg)
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The Washington Columbus Days.
So what about the Florida semenholes
That's a bad name.
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There were FIVE that complained about it. Most everyone else could give a shit. Even if 50,000 found it racist, fuck em, they have self-esteem issues. Political correctness has ruined this country.
Coach,
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/10/08/how-many-native-americans-think-redskins-is-a-slur/ (http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/10/08/how-many-native-americans-think-redskins-is-a-slur/)
Here is an article I found, and below an excerpt. It is a complex issue, but it seems that more than 5 or 50,000 find the term "Redskins" racially offensive.
But the Indian activist Suzan Shown Harjo, who has filed a lawsuit seeking to strip the “Redskins” trademark from the football team, said the poll neglected to ask some crucial questions.
“Are you a tribal person? What is your nation? What is your tribe? Would you say you are culturally or socially or politically native?” Harjo asked. Those without such connections cannot represent native opinions, she said.
Indian support for the name “is really a classic case of internalized oppression,” Harjo said. “People taking on what has been said about them, how they have been described, to such an extent that they don’t even notice.”
Harjo declines to estimate what percentage of native people oppose the name. But she notes that the many organizations supporting her lawsuit include the Cherokee, Comanche, Oneida and Seminole tribes, as well as the National Congress of American Indians, the largest intertribal organization, which represents more than 250 groups with a combined enrollment of 1.2 million.
“The ‘Redskins’ trademark is disparaging to Native Americans and perpetuates a centuries-old stereotype of Native Americans as ‘blood-thirsty savages,’ ‘noble warriors’ and an ethnic group ‘frozen in history,’” the National Congress said in a brief filed in the lawsuit.
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BIG ACH won't recover
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Is the Cleveland Browns name offensive to Latinos?
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(http://coedbc.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/washington-redskins-cheerleaders-8.jpg)
The Washington Redskins are top 3 in the NFL when it comes to hottest cheerleaders. I'm a Ravens fan who's been to a couple of Redskins games and their cheerleaders are fuckin' divine....
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Is the Cleveland Browns name offensive to Latinos?
The Browns team was named after Paul Brown , the founder.
Redskins was a name given from Indians to other Indians who were of the highest order and warriors and was a name of respect. Only whites see it as racist. Indians don't pretend to assimilate in society and try to act white. They know their skin is dark and they embrace it, not like blacks who cry about it.
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Coach,
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/10/08/how-many-native-americans-think-redskins-is-a-slur/ (http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/10/08/how-many-native-americans-think-redskins-is-a-slur/)
Here is an article I found, and below an excerpt. It is a complex issue, but it seems that more than 5 or 50,000 find the term "Redskins" racially offensive.
But the Indian activist Suzan Shown Harjo, who has filed a lawsuit seeking to strip the “Redskins” trademark from the football team, said the poll neglected to ask some crucial questions.
“Are you a tribal person? What is your nation? What is your tribe? Would you say you are culturally or socially or politically native?” Harjo asked. Those without such connections cannot represent native opinions, she said.
Indian support for the name “is really a classic case of internalized oppression,” Harjo said. “People taking on what has been said about them, how they have been described, to such an extent that they don’t even notice.”
Harjo declines to estimate what percentage of native people oppose the name. But she notes that the many organizations supporting her lawsuit include the Cherokee, Comanche, Oneida and Seminole tribes, as well as the National Congress of American Indians, the largest intertribal organization, which represents more than 250 groups with a combined enrollment of 1.2 million.
“The ‘Redskins’ trademark is disparaging to Native Americans and perpetuates a centuries-old stereotype of Native Americans as ‘blood-thirsty savages,’ ‘noble warriors’ and an ethnic group ‘frozen in history,’” the National Congress said in a brief filed in the lawsuit.
Are we to assume that over a million people have been brainwashed since this poll?
http://www.annenbergpublicpolicycenter.org/redskins-question-in-2004-annenberg-study-cited-anew-in-controversy/
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The Browns team was named after Paul Brown , the founder.
Redskins was a name given from Indians to other Indians who were of the highest order and warriors and was a name of respect. Only whites liberals with a guilt complex see it as racist. Indians don't pretend to assimilate in society and try to act white. They know their skin is dark and they embrace it, not like blacks who cry about it.
Fixed your post. Only a small percentage of retards get offended on behalf of others.
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BIG ACH won't recover
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The Washington Redskins are top 3 in the NFL when it comes to hottest cheerleaders. I'm a Ravens fan who's been to a couple of Redskins games and their cheerleaders are fuckin' divine....
True story... Unbeknownst to many, Cheerleaders also get superbowl rings.... well one of my friends was a male cheerleader for the Baltimore Ravens (I believe the only NFL team with a co-ed squad) and he quit right before the season when they won the superbowl!!! He was soooo pissed that he didn't get a ring!!! I called him up and he just had no words to say lol
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Is the Cleveland Browns name offensive to Latinos?
I believe someone here said that Booty was a cheerleader years ago for the Cleveland Steamers...
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Leave it to the left to fuck up something that's been around for 80 years. Obama is a useless twat and seriously needs to get a fucking job that he won't be a fuck up at.
While I can appreciate the sentiment you anger is mis guided. There are social engineers who attempt to shape society everyday. The pussification and hyper sensitive society we live in did not happen by accident nor was it the actions of one man or political party. This agenda has been in place for many years now however it has been just fairly recently that the fruitfulness of its work has become apparent.
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While I can appreciate the sentiment you anger is mis guided. There are social engineers who attempt to shape society everyday. The pussification and hyper sensitive society we live in did not happen by accident nor was it the actions of one man or political party. This agenda has been in place for many years now however it has been just fairly recently that the fruitfulness of its work has become apparent.
I get that. The majority of the manufactured hypersensitivity came from the left along with racism. Obama should have kept his mouth shut. This is by any shape or form should be his concern.
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Cowherd had an interesting question...
Would you walk up a native american and call them a "redskin" to their face? Most people said no, of course not. In that cause, then yes, society deems it an offensive-ass name. Now, should a private company be able to call themselves the Oakland vagina haters if they want, sure, it's america and if they want to hate on vaginas, I'm cool with that. But to say it's not offensive, it really is lol.
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Cowherd had an interesting question...
Would you walk up a native american and call them a "redskin" to their face? Most people said no, of course not. In that cause, then yes, society deems it an offensive-ass name. Now, should a private company be able to call themselves the Oakland vagina haters if they want, sure, it's america and if they want to hate on vaginas, I'm cool with that. But to say it's not offensive, it really is lol.
I heard that this morning from him and my reaction was unless you're a total douch out looking to start trouble. No one would say that regardless of the race. It's lame argument at best.
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I heard that this morning from him and my reaction was unless you're a total douch out looking to start trouble. No one would say that regardless of the race. It's lame argument at best.
....so you see how it could be offensive then, no?
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Like I said, I don't like the team and I really don't give a fuck but where is this term used as a slur? When? By whom?
Produce for me one Native American that has ever been called a Redskin as a method to annoy, anger, or demean them.
The name and logo have been used for a very long time as a respectful tribute to Native Americans. It represents them in a very powerful and positive way.
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....so you see how it could be offensive then, no?
Dude, most won't do it out sheer respect depending on how that person might take it. When you fill a stadium full of people to watch a football game chances are they could careless what they're called.
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Dude, most won't do it out sheer respect depending on how that person might take it. When you fill a stadium full of people to watch a football game chances are they could careless what they're called.
Yes, instead most fans just act like drunk idiots to know the difference between two teams name anyway :)
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Does the intent of words matter to anyone anymore?
Blacks run around calling each other the N word all day. They usually aren't intending to disparage themselves or each other.
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Washington 'Warriors' is a proposed name change that is circulating in the media.
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What about BET(Black Entertainment Television) TV? Do the Nebrews have to become the majority before a change has to be made?
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Washington 'Warriors' is a proposed name change that is circulating in the media.
I'd prefer 'Washing Warlords', 'Washington Warmongers' or 'Washington Warmachine'
would hold more meaning
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I'd prefer 'Washing Warlords', 'Washington Warmongers' or 'Washington Warmachine'
would hold more meaning
Foggybottom Chicken Hawks.
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Foggybottom Chicken Hawks.
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This is all a smokescreen by the democrats to take your attention away from the real issues and scandals going on . At the end of the day, who cares about the name? I want to know the answers to the important questions like where are the jobs? Why is the economy still shit? Why are you allowing this illegal invasion taking place at our southern borders? Why are my health insurance rates going up when you said they wouldn't? Why is it that everything this current administration touches turns to shit? I thought Bush was bad but Obama makes him look like a hero....