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The heart is the most important muscle in the body how many of you actually train it instead of fearing it will make you small to do hard cardio (lol pathetic).
I can run a half marathon in under 2 hours, that's 13.1 miles I doubt the unnatural drug abusers on this forum or the IFBB "athletes" could make it further than 1 mile without passing out.
Most "meatheads" think that the "iron game" is hard and Dorian trained "hard". Weightlifting is EASY a stroll in the park compared to endurance sports. I have a lot more respect for an ultra marathon runner's training than the easy social event that is the "training" of bodybuilders.
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its not harder, it's just different, i guarantee the world marathon champion (whoever that is) couldn't hang with kai greene or yates through one of their workouts.. just as kai or yates couldn't run a marathon, why be negative, they are different skills..
it's like saying michael jordan is a terrible athlete because he can't hit a homerun or some crap
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Actually long distance running is considered unhealthy to the heart by research. Light cardio and weight training is advised instead.
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I believe long distance running burns muscle. I tend to keep my runs under 3 miles.
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I believe long distance running burns muscle. I tend to keep my runs under 3 miles.
Every long distance runner I know is unhealthy, skinny fat twink with bad posture and fucked up joints.
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its not harder, it's just different, i guarantee the world marathon champion (whoever that is) couldn't hang with kai greene or yates through one of their workouts.. just as kai or yates couldn't run a marathon, why be negative, they are different skills..
it's like saying michael jordan is a terrible athlete because he can't hit a homerun or some crap
Weight training involves sitting down for 3-4 minutes in between sets joking around, this does not occur in serious endurance training lol, they are different I agree, weight training is easy.
It is very possible to be able to run long distances and be a very respectable weightlifter. Most Rugby players for example are fit and strong. This should be what we all strive for and respect.
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Every long distance runner I know is unhealthy, skinny fat twink with bad posture and fucked up joints.
pft most getbig members don't look anywhere near this good and this guy runs over 100 miles. Marathons for breakfast lol.
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Weight training involves sitting down for 3-4 minutes in between sets joking around, this does not occur in serious endurance training lol, they are different I agree, weight training is easy.
It is very possible to be able to run long distances and be a very respectable weightlifter. Most Rugby players for example are fit and strong. This should be what we all strive for and respect.
actually it doesn't... you are referring to lazy bbers, real hard working bbers rest less than 60 seconds between sets, you are exaggerating to try to make a worthless point, arnold and co in the 70's were not lazy trainers bud, you think they don't earn any respect?
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actually it doesn't... you are referring to lazy bbers, real hard working bbers rest less than 60 seconds between sets, you are exaggerating to try to make a worthless point, arnold and co in the 70's were not lazy trainers bud, you think they don't earn any respect?
you seem to have missed all the parts of pumping iron were they are laughing and flirting with women while in the gym.
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try running and weight training at the same time, I hear it's killer.
Or just do the Ronnie Coleman lunge with 135 pounds on your back in 100+ degree weather.
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you seem to have missed all the parts of pumping iron were they are laughing and flirting with women while in the gym.
you seem to forget pumping iron was dramatised by Arnold to attract attention to himself and to bbing, i don't remember lou ferrigno laughing and flirting with women in his basement gym (probably because he was actually training instead of acting up for the cameras)
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I believe this is Rami's area of expertise, will wait for him to give his view.
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Ultra Marathon runner David Goggins is a very tall strong guy too:
(http://www.thefitnesschamp.com/storage/david_goggins1.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1294004711565)
I run, cycle or swim atleast one of each every month....I like my body to be functional and yes the heart is very important seeing as I have no aspirations to compete or anything.
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I don't run long distances, I stick to a measly 5k run 3-4 times a week.
Running Bangkok best time this year was 24:18 at a temperature of about 32c/90f and about 65% humidity. Two weeks before that in LA 22:39 for the same distance at 13c/53f and 6% humidity.
I'm not particularly fast for a 44 year old but I do like to challenge myself and 5k in the Bangkok weather is still a good workout.
I tried longer distances - went to do a 20k run a couple of months ago - got 12k before my shin splints hurt and I had to hobble all the way home.
I do love running - especially out where I live in Bangkok - hundreds of kms of canals with canal paths and a fair amount of off road places to run. I tend to stick to the Muslim areas when running though - on account of there being zero stray dogs in those areas.
Running isn't easy - but when you get into it, it's as if your legs are disconnected from your upper body and they are just doing their own thing. You get into a state where it would take conscious effort to stop running and zero effort to carry on. It's almost like you are just floating along. Very odd.
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The heart is the most important muscle in the body how many of you actually train it instead of fearing it will make you small to do hard cardio (lol pathetic).
I can run a half marathon in under 2 hours, that's 13.1 miles I doubt the unnatural drug abusers on this forum or the IFBB "athletes" could make it further than 1 mile without passing out.
Most "meatheads" think that the "iron game" is hard and Dorian trained "hard". Weightlifting is EASY a stroll in the park compared to endurance sports. I have a lot more respect for an ultra marathon runner's training than the easy social event that is the "training" of bodybuilders.
If weightlifting is so EASY then why the fuck do you still fail at lifting 2 plates? :D
Untwinking thread:
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Like Method & Skorpio said..
Dean Karnazes and David Goggins are alphas! A good inspirational source for me!
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Brad Harris old School.... ;)
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as a Young man powerful too...
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try running and weight training at the same time, I hear it's killer.
Or just do the Ronnie Coleman lunge with 135 pounds on your back in 100+ degree weather.
Haha, supersetting dumbbell curls, rows and presses during a crisp one mile jog! :D
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Running is overrated. My wife was averaging 50 miles/week (not a misprint) before she realized that it wasn't doing anything for her. Now she only runs 6 miles/week and it is all sprints uphill. She replaced the running with more lifting real weights and HIIT-style training. In 2 months, the change in her body comp was drastic. Shedding fat and new muscle growth.
She's very pleased and now evangelizes against distance running.
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The ripped muscular distance runners shown in this thread are either genetic anomalies or on gear. Most long distance runners are skinny fat.
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Running is overrated. My wife was averaging 50 miles/week (not a misprint) before she realized that it wasn't doing anything for her. Now she only runs 6 miles/week and it is all sprints uphill. She replaced the running with more lifting real weights and HIIT-style training. In 2 months, the change in her body comp was drastic. Shedding fat and new muscle growth.
She's very pleased and now evangelizes against distance running.
True in her case but if you've already built a solid muscular base substituting a workout session or 2 a week with a good 3 mile run could be beneficial.
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True in her case but if you've already built a solid muscular base substituting a workout session or 2 a week with a good 3 mile run could be beneficial.
Well, yes. But 3 miles isn't what I was talking about. I was talking about longer distance running. My wife used to run marathons and do half-triathlons. Now she just laughs at the thought and does her deadlifts.
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Well, yes. But 3 miles isn't what I was talking about. I was talking about longer distance running. My wife used to run marathons and do half-triathlons. Now she just laughs at the thought and does her deadlifts.
Yeah there is no comparison in that regard. Especially for women.
Deadlifts and squats work wonders for a woman's physique.
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The heart is the most important muscle in the body how many of you actually train it instead of fearing it will make you small to do hard cardio (lol pathetic).
I can run a half marathon in under 2 hours, that's 13.1 miles I doubt the unnatural drug abusers on this forum or the IFBB "athletes" could make it further than 1 mile without passing out.
That makes it different, not harder. That's like me saying that power lifting is harder because a marathon runner doesn't deadlier 600lbs, while weighing less than 180. Or that if I do weighted dips with 6 plates a marathon runner cant. So it's harder. It's apples to oranges. Thanks for making me laugh on the way to work though
Most "meatheads" think that the "iron game" is hard and Dorian trained "hard". Weightlifting is EASY a stroll in the park compared to endurance sports. I have a lot more respect for an ultra marathon runner's training than the easy social event that is the "training" of bodybuilders.
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Once you develop an aerobic base, you can pretty much run 10 min miles all day.
That's the problem.
People use running not for health and fitness, but as a way to fill the hours; thus, 50k, 100k & 100 mile Ultramarathons.
If the point is that the heart is a muscle, why not treat it as such and train it for a 1/2 hour with 72 hrs rest in between?
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A lot of it depends on your body type. I am a thick stump and managed to train hard enough to run a trail half marathon in 2:07, that was way too far for me.
My body responds better to shorter distances with more intensity. I like my morning runs and go 3 or so times a week but never for more than 3 miles. That way I get a decent run and I am done in under 1/2 an hour.
When I would come back from running 6 miles or more I was completely depleted, now I run 2 miles hard and I feel pretty decent.
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Actually long distance running is considered unhealthy to the heart by research. Light cardio and weight training is advised instead.
This depends what you mean by "long". Running is probably the best thing you can do for your cardiovascular health. There is a point of diminishing returns but you must run extreme distances on a regular basis and probably combine it with other unhealthy lifestyle habits for it to actually be detrimental.
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Running is easy as shit and I used to run for miles and miles every single day for cross-country and track. Consistently working out, hitting PRs, is way more difficult in my opinion. When I ran competitively, it was all basically done on autopilot. I can still run for days and days if I wanted to. I have a giant ribcage which house large, stretched out lungs and I do not tire. One of the things I used to do to increase my lung capacity and endurance for track and cross-country was swimming pool lengths underwater without taking breaths. You go until you feel like you are going to die, and you go more. You still have enough oxygen. You go until you get the first bit of tunnel vision then surface. Takes practice.
Running is childs play for me. Glad I don`t waste the time with it.
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This depends what you mean by "long". Running is probably the best thing you can do for your cardiovascular health. There is a point of diminishing returns but you must run extreme distances on a regular basis and probably combine it with other unhealthy lifestyle habits for it to actually be detrimental.
Depends more on intensity and how long it is kept up and for what distance.
Running is NOT good for you, especially on pavement. Humans are poor runners and do not have the body for it at all. The bipedal thing is not meant for it at all.
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This depends what you mean by "long". Running is probably the best thing you can do for your cardiovascular health. There is a point of diminishing returns but you must run extreme distances on a regular basis and probably combine it with other unhealthy lifestyle habits for it to actually be detrimental.
I've seen research suggesting surprisingly low levels of diminishing returns, something like once or twice per week for 30 minutes. Cardiovascular health is one thing, ligaments and joints is another thing. Contrary to popular belief, compound movements with full ROM actually improve joint health by building muscles that protect them. This is why weight training is essential also for runners. Pictures posted in this thread show endurance athletes that have built their bodies with weight training and then used them in their main sport.
I think walking, not running, is best activity for humans. I feel awesome when I just move around a lot. I am way too practical to walk just for the sake of walking so for me it is a simple matter of choosing walking instread of car/bus when I go shopping etc.
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15549097
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=williams+pt%5Bau%5D+running
^^^ These studies had 75,000 subjects in them. But I'm sure getbiggers know better.
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15549097
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=williams+pt%5Bau%5D+running
^^^ These studies had 75,000 subjects in them. But I'm sure getbiggers know better.
:D
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/news/fullstory_145434.html
Too Much Running Tied to Shorter Lifespan, Studies Find
Tuesday, April 1, 2014
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TUESDAY, April 1 (HealthDay News) -- Running regularly has long been linked to a host of health benefits, including weight control, stress reduction, better blood pressure and cholesterol.
However, recent research suggests there may a point of diminishing returns with running.
A number of studies have suggested that a "moderate" running regimen -- a total of two to three hours per week, according to one expert -- appears best for longevity, refuting the typical "more is better" mantra for physical activity.
The researchers behind the newest study on the issue say people who get either no exercise or high-mileage runners both tend to have shorter lifespans than moderate runners. But the reasons why remain unclear, they added.
The new study seems to rule out cardiac risk or the use of certain medications as factors.
"Our study didn't find any differences that could explain these longevity differences," said Dr. Martin Matsumura, co-director of the Cardiovascular Research Institute at the Lehigh Valley Health Network in Allentown, Pa.
Matsumura presented the findings Sunday at the American College of Cardiology's annual meeting in Washington, D.C. Studies presented at medical meetings are typically viewed as preliminary until published in a peer-reviewed journal.
Matsumura and his colleagues evaluated data from more than 3,800 men and women runners, average age 46. They were involved in the Masters Running Study, a web-based study of training and health information on runners aged 35 and above. Nearly 70 percent reported running more than 20 miles a week.
The runners supplied information on their use of common painkillers called NSAIDs (nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory medications such as ibuprofen and naproxen/Aleve), which have been linked with heart problems, as well as aspirin, known to be heart-protective. The runners also reported on known heart risk factors such as high blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes, family history of heart disease and smoking history.
None of these factors explained the shorter lives of high-mileage runners, the researchers said. Use of NSAIDs was actually more common in runners who ran less than 20 miles weekly, Matsumura's team noted. "The study negates the theory that excessive use of NSAIDs may be causing this loss of longevity among high-mileage runners," Matsumura said.
So what's the advice to fitness-oriented Americans?
"I certainly don't tell patients 'Don't run,' " Matsumura said. But, he does tell high-mileage runners to stay informed about new research into the mileage-lifespan link as more becomes known.
"What we still don't understand is defining the optimal dose of running for health and longevity," he said.
Even though the heart disease risk factors couldn't explain the shorter longevity of high-mileage runners, there do seem to be potentially life-shortening ill effects from that amount of running, said Dr. James O'Keefe, director of preventive cardiology at the Mid-American Heart Institute in Kansas City.
O'Keefe, who reviewed the findings, believes there may simply be "too much wear and tear" on the bodies of high-mileage runners. He has researched the issue and is an advocate of moderate running for the best health benefits. Chronic extreme exercise, O'Keefe said, may induce a "remodeling" of the heart, and that could undermine some of the benefits that moderate activity provides.
In O'Keefe's view, the "sweet spot" for jogging for health benefits is a slow to moderate pace, about two or three times per week, for a total of one to 2.5 hours.
"If you want to run a marathon," he said, "run one and cross it off your bucket list." But as a general rule, O'Keefe advises runners to avoid strenuous exercise for more than an hour at a time.
SOURCES: James O'Keefe, M.D, cardiologist and director, preventive cardiology, Mid-America Heart Institute, Kansas City, Mo.; Martin Matsumura, M.D., cardiologist and co-director, Cardiovascular Research Institute, Lehigh Valley Health Network, Allentown, Pa.; March 30, 2014, presentation, American College of Cardiology annual meeting, Washington, D.C.
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Stop being an idiot Adonis.
http://www.outsideonline.com/fitness/bodywork/in-stride/Nope-Running-Isnt-Going-to-Shorten-Your-Lifespan.html
One contentious study using surveys conducted on the internet up against the dozens of actual research studies showing contrary evidence doesn't make you correct.
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Running is the single hardest exercise by far. Distance running is imo vastly more brutal and taxing than any weightlifting. And i dont care what anyone says, long distance running is BAD for you. Sprints are awesome, feel good and actually build muscle...but long distance running is horrible. It makes my body feel like its gonna die, cannot possibly be good for the heart, and absolutely destroys your joints. Not to mention makes you scrawny and emaciated.
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The ripped muscular distance runners shown in this thread are either genetic anomalies or on gear. Most long distance runners are skinny fat.
not skinny fat but skinny yes. Any elite long distance runner is below 6% body fat.
If you wear the correct footwear, take adequate rest periods in-between sessions and have correct form then running is not going to destroy your joints, infact it makes them stronger.
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Stick 350kg on your traps fro a squat and tell me weightlifting is easy!!
We get you, you failed at weightlifting so boast about a completely different sport. Thats like saying 'Well I cannot run fast but im good at Playstation'
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Stick 350kg on your traps fro a squat and tell me weightlifting is easy!!
We get you, you failed at weightlifting so boast about a completely different sport. Thats like saying 'Well I cannot run fast but im good at Playstation'
I can bench press 120kgx8 and I'm sticking to it, anything more is not worthwhile for a natural. It took me 4 years to go from 100kgx8 to 120kgx8 lol.
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Running is the single hardest exercise by far. Distance running is imo vastly more brutal and taxing than any weightlifting. And i dont care what anyone says, long distance running is BAD for you. Sprints are awesome, feel good and actually build muscle...but long distance running is horrible. It makes my body feel like its gonna die, cannot possibly be good for the heart, and absolutely destroys your joints. Not to mention makes you scrawny and emaciated.
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I can run forever. Easiest thing I know how to do. I take it you never participated in any kind of running athletics ever.
Some people just aren`t any good at it. I get that. I happen to be extremely good at long distance running. It really is a waste of time for me.
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Humans are poor runners and do not have the body for it at all. The bipedal thing is not meant for it at all.
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I can run forever. Easiest thing I know how to do.
This is contrary to your previous post where you said running is terrible and humans are not made for it.
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You should only run if you need to (health reasons). I'd personally rather ride a bike although I can sprint, running is not fun.
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not skinny fat but skinny yes. Any elite long distance runner is below 6% body fat.
If you wear the correct footwear, take adequate rest periods in-between sessions and have correct form then running is not going to destroy your joints, infact it makes them stronger.
Really?
You are a moron.
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This is contrary to your previous post where you said running is terrible and humans are not made for it.
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Yes, I can run forever and yes its bad for me and I do not do it.
How is that contradictory you dumbshit?
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Really?
You are a moron.
The only people who looks skinnyfat there are not elite runners lol.
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The only people who looks skinnyfat there are not elite runners lol.
??? They are all olympians you moron and the ones who look the worst are all elite runners, specifically long distance.
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Call me Mr. 6 Percent Bodyfat. :D
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Running to a certain point is good....I believe the marker is 25mi/week. Anything beyond that is going to have a negative impact. Marathoners show symptoms of heart attacks or heart damage after a marathon.
In my opinion, running is more difficult than lifting. A challenging sprint workout is many times harder than a challenging lifting workout. A long run vs lifting? The long run will only be harder if you push the pace.
But I've thrown up after many races and runs, I've never thrown up after a lifting session.
Also, TA, I get that this is getbig and all, but if you're gonna say long distance running is "so easy" please inject some humility into those statements so they're more credible :P
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I can run forever. Easiest thing I know how to do. I take it you never participated in any kind of running athletics ever.
Some people just aren`t any good at it. I get that. I happen to be extremely good at long distance running. It really is a waste of time for me.
You should be able to walk on to the US Olympic track team then ::)
Lol you are such a tool
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I enjoy doing one or two half marathons or full marathons a year. I run year round but unless I'm specifically training for a race I don't do more than 15 miles a week. Protecting my joints is a priority.
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Running to a certain point is good....I believe the marker is 25mi/week. Anything beyond that is going to have a negative impact. Marathoners show symptoms of heart attacks or heart damage after a marathon.
In my opinion, running is more difficult than lifting. A challenging sprint workout is many times harder than a challenging lifting workout. A long run vs lifting? The long run will only be harder if you push the pace.
But I've thrown up after many races and runs, I've never thrown up after a lifting session.
Also, TA, I get that this is getbig and all, but if you're gonna say long distance running is "so easy" please inject some humility into those statements so they're more credible :P
I think if you did 20 sets of 20 rep squats with the heaviest you can go to complete 20 with one minute rest between sets, you might throw up. :D
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You should be able to walk on to the US Olympic track team then ::)
Lol you are such a tool
You have no clue how difficult track is. Its a game of milliseconds, even in long distance. A few seconds difference and you won`t even make it to any regional open or qualify for pre-qualification runs. This despite being about the same speed and level of endurance of someone who may be running in top position.
You don`t just walk on an Olympic track team. Its not college football for fucks sake.
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I think if you did 20 sets of 20 rep squats with the heaviest you can go to complete 20 with one minute rest between sets, you might throw up. :D
I'll formulate a plan. You don't push hard til you blow chunks.
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Some ignorant things being said on this thread. A couple of points. I have found the guys who are critical of running tend to be out of shape guys who are delusional about their physical capabilities.
1.It's not how many miles you can log but the intensity. A friend of mine runs marathons and I went for a 4 mile run with him and he couldn't keep up. You can completely exhaust any runner or athlete in one mile if the speed is fast enough.
2. Yes, the heart is the most important muscle. The reason why so many bodybuilders don't train the heart is because they can't show it off.
3. Any sport that requires a gas tank like boxing, wrestling or MMA will have to put some miles on the road. I always use to get laughs when I was involved with boxing and jui jitsu to see the bodybuilder come to the gym and leave with his tail between his legs as the "twink" beats the crap out of the no gas tank bodybuilder.
4. Regarding life expectancy the world's foremost expert on cardio is Kenneth Cooper. He said that health benefits increase in a bell shaped curve. Over a certain point you are training to become a better athlete and not necessarily to increase life expectancy. Make no mistake. Running is beneficial to your health.
5. Running increases measurable parameters in health.
6. Running decreases your resting heart beat. That illustrates that your heart is stronger through training. Many distance runners have a resting heart beat of 40 bpm.
7. Running decreases blood fat known as triglycerides.
8. Running can lower blood pressure.
9. It decreases visceral fat that can lead to so many metabolic problems.
10. It also decreases subcutaneous fat.
11. It can increase peripheral capillaries of the heart that can save you during a heart attack.
12. Sure people die during cardio but it has prevented so many heart attacks that you have to talk about bias when people bring up athletes dying from heart attacks. Many are due to a genetic electrical defect from a thick heart wall. What do they do for rehab after a heart operation? They have them do cardio.
13. Running decreases blood sugar that can prevent diabetes and all the health implications from that problem.
14. Runners have found to have high bone density that contradicts some flawed previous studies.
15. Running increases red blood cells that carry oxygen throughout the body.
16. Running without a doubt increases a favorable mood. So from a psychological standpoint it's an anti depressant.
I could go on. Maybe I will add more later. If you lift, eat right and do cardio without bodybuilding drugs you are doing great things for your health.
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Running is like dancing, it's an activity for women and homosexuals.
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I can bench press 120kgx8 and I'm sticking to it, anything more is not worthwhile for a natural. It took me 4 years to go from 100kgx8 to 120kgx8 lol.
120kg x 8 is pretty good for a natural so Kudos
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Sprints are far superior than long distance running.
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You have no clue how difficult track is. Its a game of milliseconds, even in long distance. A few seconds difference and you won`t even make it to any regional open or qualify for pre-qualification runs. This despite being about the same speed and level of endurance of someone who may be running in top position.
You don`t just walk on an Olympic track team. Its not college football for fucks sake.
You just said running is the easiest thing in the world, that you have genetically blessed lungs/ribcage, and 'can run forever' without any difficulty, im sure you could easily win the distance events since running forever is 'nothing' for you :D
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You just said running is the easiest thing in the world, that you have genetically blessed lungs/ribcage, and 'can run forever' without any difficulty, im sure you could easily win the distance events since running forever is 'nothing' for you :D
For me its easy. Easiest sport I ever competed in. For you, its probably difficult. I did win many events and did try to take it as far as I could and then I quit when I was tired of being 120-130 lbs at nearly 6 feet tall.
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Running is like dancing, it's an activity for women and homosexuals.
Translation, I can't run a mile without keeling over so anyone that can I will insult. You have to cheer up droppingplates. Your endless negative posts make you sound like an unemployed 20 something living in a room in his mother's house hating life.
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Great post oldtimer
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Translation, I can't run a mile without keeling over so anyone that can I will insult. You have to cheer up droppingplates. Your endless negative posts make you sound like an unemployed 20 something living in a room in his mother's house hating life.
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I am sure he can "run" a mile. Anyone can. Even the most out of shape fatbody can clock in around 10-20 minutes.
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I can run forever. Easiest thing I know how to do. I take it you never participated in any kind of running athletics ever.
Some people just aren`t any good at it. I get that. I happen to be extremely good at long distance running. It really is a waste of time for me.
At what speed can you run 'forever'?
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At what speed can you run 'forever'?
Faster than you will ever be able to.
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At what speed can you run 'forever'?
The same speed he can deadlift 225 for 112 reps without putting it down :D
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Translation, I can't run a mile without keeling over so anyone that can I will insult. You have to cheer up droppingplates. Your endless negative posts make you sound like an unemployed 20 something living in a room in his mother's house hating life.
Three facts of peace #1, I just got home from work, #2, I won the cooper test two times in my highschool years #3, 20 something? I could only wish :'(
Nothing wrong with my stamina, HIIT rocks and I ride a bicycle every day!
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Running is also one of the only sports you can do even at an old age (easy sport in reality to anyone). Your times really don`t drop off that much even in your 50s. It takes about 45 years (consistent runner) to drop to the level they were running at age 19.
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I can run to my mailbox.
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I am sure he can "run" a mile. Anyone can. Even the most out of shape fatbody can clock in around 10-20 minutes.
Running or doing some kind of cardio workout is much better than being a fat lethargic permabulker(CSWOL), with your posts it would look that you advice people NOT to improve their cardiovascular state.
But I agree too much of ANYTHING is bad for you.. like 8hrs arm workout a la R(BI)ich Piana.
Most runners also seem well spoken, sound mind & very humble, while bodybuilders are insecure, clinical insane & not very intelligent. /JK there's good and bad in everything, just learn to take the good and avoid the bad.
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Running is like dancing, it's an activity for women and homosexuals.
That was kind'a harsh friend. ???
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Running or doing some kind of cardio workout is much better than being a fat lethargic permabulker(CSWOL), with your posts it would look that you advice people NOT to improve their cardiovascular state.
But I agree too much of ANYTHING is bad for you.. like 8hrs arm workout a la R(BI)ich Piana.
Most runners also seem well spoken, sound mind & very humble, while bodybuilders are insecure, clinical insane & not very intelligent. /JK there's good and bad in everything, just learn to take the good and avoid the bad.
A serious runner is of sound mind? Nah. They are way more delusional than the bodybuilder. Not only do they obsess over Potassium content in the most minute things every day, Obsess about the milimeter heel height of a running shoe, they have to run every single day no matter what. You try keeping them from doing that one or several days and they lose their mind. Chances are they will sneak off some place to run. They are some of the most OCD people I have ever come across. And then there is the constant banter ad naseum about the "event" they are training for. Very tiresome to endure that nonsense talk. Just do a search or go on any running forum and you will see. Here is one. Most everyone is batshit insane on there. http://www.therunningforum.com/index.php/topic/326-what-was-your-workout-today/
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Was in a serious powerlifting gym in Ohio last week and I heard a couple of PL'ers talking. One of them referred to deadlift triples as "cardio." It's all in your perception.
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ROFLMAOOOOO
Method101 would fit right in over there:
http://www.therunningforum.com/index.php/topic/326-what-was-your-workout-today/?p=2233
Posted 04 April 2013 - 01:28 AM
Rest day, 30 minutes today w/ a pickup800m hill at the end with my buddy Matt. Really loving running right now.
Gym workout today: Biceps, Chest, Shoulders. All 10 x 3
Dumbbell Press - 30 lbs.
Hammer Curls - 20 lbs.
Shoulder Press - 15 lbs.
Shoulder Shrugs - 20 lbs.
Bench Press - 105 lbs.
Bicep Curls (cable) 15 lbs.
Feeling a bit inspired by "How Much Should Distance Runners Lift?" ;)
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More ramblings by getbigs resident gross nerd methadone 101 lbs trying to justify being a skinny gay ginger haired nerd devoid of any muscle tissue whatsoever.
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The heart is the most important muscle in the body how many of you actually train it instead of fearing it will make you small to do hard cardio (lol pathetic).
I can run a half marathon in under 2 hours, that's 13.1 miles I doubt the unnatural drug abusers on this forum or the IFBB "athletes" could make it further than 1 mile without passing out.
Most "meatheads" think that the "iron game" is hard and Dorian trained "hard". Weightlifting is EASY a stroll in the park compared to endurance sports. I have a lot more respect for an ultra marathon runner's training than the easy social event that is the "training" of bodybuilders.
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Whats with the "patriotism" in all this GoRuck stuff? Most of these morons are neavou-hipsters, former liberal turned "independent" limp dick college graduates who never served in the military and would run the other direction at the first sign of gunfire.
You gotta wonder about these people.
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Whats with the "patriotism" in all this GoRuck stuff? Most of these morons are neavou-hipsters, former liberal turned "independent" limp dick college graduates who never served in the military and would run the other direction at the first sign of gunfire.
You gotta wonder about these people.
The people who run them are typically right off deployment or heading out or whatever. As for others -most of the people ihave met train like animals weights wise, cardio wise etc.
No running - running sucks! I fng hate running. Its more about how much shit can you take before you break.
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The people who run them are typically right off deployment or heading out or whatever. As for others -most of the people ihave met train like animals weights wise, cardio wise etc.
No running - running sucks! I fng hate running. Its more about how much shit can you take before you break.
Lot of liberals go on those things and emerge as independents and then begin to cover up that they were liberal in the first place. The longer they GoRuck, the less liberal they become which is strange because the very idea of GoRuck is pure Socialism, help your fellow man, leave no man behind, look after your brother.
Batshit I tell ya.
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Lot of liberals go on those things and emerge as independents and then begin to cover up that they were liberal in the first place. The longer they GoRuck, the less liberal they become which is strange because the very idea of GoRuck is pure Socialism, help your fellow man, leave no man behind, look after your brother.
Batshit I tell ya.
Most I have met are mostly libertarian types, 2and amend types, adrenaline junkies, etc. Its not for most people.
don't mean jack shit if you are jacked but cant take cold ass water , be freezing for a long time,etc. A lot of BB are delusional in that way - they think going to the gym makes them tough. lol. Seen so many dudes quit who thought being jacked would help them out. its laughable
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That was kind'a harsh friend. ???
I love to squat.
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I guess you're safe after this post ;)
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Most I have met are mostly libertarian types, 2and amend types, adrenaline junkies, etc. Its not for most people.
don't mean jack shit if you are jacked but cant take cold ass water , be freezing for a long time,etc. A lot of BB are delusional in that way - they think going to the gym makes them tough. lol. Seen so many dudes quit who thought being jacked would help them out. its laughable
Whats the deal with them though. Do they not get that it really is pure Socialistic ideals embedded in GoRuck? Thats the main thing I got from the video you posted.
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Whats the deal with them though. Do they not get that it really is pure Socialistic ideals embedded in GoRuck? Thats the main thing I got from the video you posted.
No - they get a little cold and start shaking and quit. Others get a little sand in their vag and cant take it, many others look jacked but fitness wise are garbage. Looking in shape and being shape are not the same thing. Some roided out idiot who can't even due a few legit pull ups or pushups usually gets embarrassed and quits in humiliation or sheer exhaustion due t no cardio or fitness level.
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No - they get a little cold and start shaking and quit. Others get a little sand in their vag and cant take it, many others look jacked but fitness wise are garbage. Looking in shape and being shape are not the same thing. Some roided out idiot who can't even due a few legit pull ups or pushups usually gets embarrassed and quits in humiliation or sheer exhaustion due t no cardio or fitness level.
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A routine to maximize leg size and train all three energy systems .
Day 1 : Run 5k at a moderate pace.
Day 3: Warm up to 3-4 sets of squats 10-15 reps.
Day 6: 5k run at a moderate pace with 5-7 100 yard sprints mixed in.
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those who can't lift run
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those who can't lift run
Bingo!
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Faster than you will ever be able to.
You are obviously full of shite
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those who can't lift run
Not true! I've found that both things compliment one another. My strength is starting to be respectable and I can run a half marathon without a problem.
@TA, that runner guy is so weak! I'm basically using the weights he's using
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Lot of liberals go on those things and emerge as independents and then begin to cover up that they were liberal in the first place. The longer they GoRuck, the less liberal they become which is strange because the very idea of GoRuck is pure Socialism, help your fellow man, leave no man behind, look after your brother.
Batshit I tell ya.
Socialism doesn't help or look after your fellow man. it cripples him.
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Not true! I've found that both things compliment one another. My strength is starting to be respectable and I can run a half marathon without a problem.
@TA, that runner guy is so weak! I'm basically using the weights he's using
I thought you said you were were inclining 130s for ten? Then promised a video but never delivered :(
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I thought you said you were were inclining 130s for ten? Then promised a video but never delivered :(
rofl I'm nowhere near that for bench
Plus my big nose gets in the way :P
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Not true! I've found that both things compliment one another. My strength is starting to be respectable and I can run a half marathon without a problem.
@TA, that runner guy is so weak! I'm basically using the weights he's using
there is definetly a synergy between a healthy body capable of performing prolonged or intense bouts of cardiovascular activity and functionality. one makes the other better. a remarkable mechanism is the body. capable of so much but for the most part we dont attempt to build and utilize that functionality or strive to increase it.
like scorp mentioned david goggins. the guys a true machine. just decided one day he was going to do ultra marathons to raise money I think it was for the children of guys he worked with who lost their lives in war. having never run one before he ends up breaking the bones in his feet and came close to renal failure. now he's top of the food chain. what amazed me most abt his story was not just his going out and doing something that should have been impossible, but later on finding out he had a congenital defect in his heart that made it not function as well as a healthy one would. lol
I think you can have it all. be muscular. be able to perform prolonged bouts of cardio. be optimal. the question is how much time are you willing to give up in order to achieve it cause nothing good worth having comes without sacrifice and hard work. this is especially true in regards to your own performance.
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there is definetly a synergy between a healthy body capable of performing prolonged or intense bouts of cardiovascular activity and functionality. one makes the other better. a remarkable mechanism is the body. capable of so much but for the most part we dont attempt to build and utilize that functionality or strive to increase it.
like scorp mentioned david goggins. the guys a true machine. just decided one day he was going to do ultra marathons to raise money I think it was for the children of guys he worked with who lost their lives in war. having never run one before he ends up breaking the bones in his feet and came close to renal failure. now he's top of the food chain. what amazed me most abt his story was not just his going out and doing something that should have been impossible, but later on finding out he had a congenital defect in his heart that made it not function as well as a healthy one would. lol
I think you can have it all. be muscular. be able to perform prolonged bouts of cardio. be optimal. the question is how much time are you willing to give up in order to achieve it cause nothing good worth having comes without sacrifice and hard work. this is especially true in regards to your own performance.
I feel that it is mostly a myth that running breaks down your muscle. A myth for the "commoners," at least. For the elite, they're running so lean, they don't want any extra weight holding them down with running. You can gain muscle in a running program if you are lifting and running. I do think running will be a problem for people who look like bbers, but it should be fine for "the everyday look."
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Had to run to the gym this morning to be there on time. I feel a bit gay now :-[
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I feel that it is mostly a myth that running breaks down your muscle. A myth for the "commoners," at least. For the elite, they're running so lean, they don't want any extra weight holding them down with running. You can gain muscle in a running program if you are lifting and running. I do think running will be a problem for people who look like bbers, but it should be fine for "the everyday look."
for me itīs common sense... find a way to work your heart but donīt kill yourself and your recovery from your muscle building workouts. A Bodybuilder does not Need to run for miles. if you canīt/wont run then bike do what ever. PHA Training made popular by Mr America Bob Gadja is an Option but like circuit Training gets a bad rap by gym Rats. You can use PHA(peripheral heart Action) to lose fat and Keep muscle for a short period...indeed it was said Sergio oliva used it for a short period Training with Gadja. pHA differs from Circuit Training while you avoid a pump..skipping from upper to lower Body.
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there is definetly a synergy between a healthy body capable of performing prolonged or intense bouts of cardiovascular activity and functionality. one makes the other better. a remarkable mechanism is the body. capable of so much but for the most part we dont attempt to build and utilize that functionality or strive to increase it.
like scorp mentioned david goggins. the guys a true machine. just decided one day he was going to do ultra marathons to raise money I think it was for the children of guys he worked with who lost their lives in war. having never run one before he ends up breaking the bones in his feet and came close to renal failure. now he's top of the food chain. what amazed me most abt his story was not just his going out and doing something that should have been impossible, but later on finding out he had a congenital defect in his heart that made it not function as well as a healthy one would. lol
I think you can have it all. be muscular. be able to perform prolonged bouts of cardio. be optimal. the question is how much time are you willing to give up in order to achieve it cause nothing good worth having comes without sacrifice and hard work. this is especially true in regards to your own performance.
I couldn't agree more. If you are not going to be a pro in something you could just as well be good at everything. Good endurance, nice physique, strong. That was what bodybuilding used to be about anyway, back in the very old days.