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Why is Haney Rambod a "Pro Creator"? Where did that name come from? He doesnt look like he is in shape?
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Why is Haney Rambod a "Pro Creator"? Where did that name come from? because the MD issue this month, with that wet suit on he looks like a baby seal standing on two legs. That guy is porky.
Former Schmoe turned "Nutritionist"
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I don't know what the hell makes these so called " Pro Creators" or what ever the hell they are so special. They all look like shit, (Hany Ramod, Chad Nichols, Chris Aceto)
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I concur. I do remember a picture many years ago of Aceto carrying Laura on his shoulders at the beach, he had some good quads on him then.
At 30 years old, Hany is quickly on his way to fulfilling a regular persons dream. And this month interview about the cruise is a complete rip. 30 years old and never heard of a Long Island Ice Tea? Where did he grow up? The interview certainly made him come across as some adoring schmoe with a man crush on Ronnie.
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Aceto was a competitive bber in late 80's early nineties.chad has or had good size.
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I dont know about Hanys knowledge base in this sport as we have actualy never sat down a talked about it(funny enough) but I do know he is a good guy and has a great sence of humor and loves young women !!! :D
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On page 365 of the new MD, Haney Romrod calls Ronnie Coleman a "mountain of ebony muscle"
I don't think there's anything else to be said.
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Exactly which Pros did this Hany "create"?
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Ray Arde and Bill WIllmore this year. he did their precontest prep
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But seriously Chris Aceto knows his shit. He has also looked the part.
I have yet to see a shot of Chad where he looks like he's touched a weight, but I'm sure he knows his shit. You know, he did experiment on his wife all those years.......
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Hany Rambod's hilarious. He finds a bunch of pros and spots them for a couple months. Most of these guys tend to blow up once they actually LIFT. When they ask Hany for nutrition advice, he's right there to tell them to have a shake and a chicken breast. Wow eh! You gotta pay top dollar for service like that. My guess is that he has the best sauce hook up in the business and that's where he gets his niche.
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You guys are Phucken hilarious.. lol..
Just to clear this up - I aint defending Hany this is my reaction to this shit...
Hany has been helping me out for over 2 years and i have made incredible gaines while working with him..He is at the top of the game as a trainer.Trust me he knows his shit and pretty much any one he helps male or female looks great..He has helped numerous guys turn pro and helped pros achive there best conditions and get contracts with top supplement companies..
Here just to name a few of the top of my head..
· Quincy Taylor IFBB Pro– Winner of the 2001 USA Championships
· Idrise Ward-El IFBB Pro- Winner of the 2002 USA Championships
· Mike Dragna IFBB Pro– Winner of the 2003 USA Championships
· Chris Cook IFBB Pro– Winner of the Super Heavyweight class at the USA two years (2004 & 2005)
Ray Arde 2005 Pro card
Bill Willmore 2005 pro card
· Troy Alves IFBB Pro – Top 7 in the World at the Mr. Olympia
Lee Priest – IFBB Pro- Winner of the Australia Pro Championships
and many more top national and regional level athletes.. I could go on but whats the point if you dont get the point already...
NUFF SAID
Peace D
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Tell him to help himself. He knows shit.
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I would'nt call Hany a 'trainer'. If you've ever seen pros train, you know they do the same shit everyone else does, but with crappier form and more weight...so clearly the term 'trainer' is being misused. No pro needs a trainer anymore than anyone else needs a trainer -- meaning that only the lazy slobs who can't motivate himself to go to the gym or push themselves to lift heavy.
The term 'nutritionist' doesn't really fit either because I think it's a given now that the high-carb high-protein diet becomes a low-carb high-protein diet as contest time approaches, and every pro I've seen diets the same way with the exception of a few bucktooth jackasses who still try to carb-load and end up missing their peak show after show.
The term 'guru' is probably the best fit for these guys, unless we call them 'drug suppliers' and 'drug experts' which would both be more accurate. Let's face it, legit steroids are becoming harder and harder to get in large quanities, and GH remains expensive and elusive for many. A 'guru' finds legit sources, fronts the money, imports the drugs using their overseas hookups and their crooked domestic customs pals, marks up the product by charging 'trainer fees', pumps the pro with 10x more GH than they ever imagined possible, takes credit for getting the pro to their all-time best shape, and then goes to Krispy Kreme to celebrate their paycheck.
Got it?
Special "Donut Guru" Ed
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Yup, they are mostly just drug connections.
U really think so …
Lee Priest said in 1 of his videos or articles that he doesn’t need a nutritionist cause he knows his body more than anyone else any he has been training for like 20 years or so. He also said he thinks people get nutritionists so they can blame him when they don’t do well … every 1 saw the improvements lee made after hooking up with Hany … and he never got that shredded, hard and detailed before. Which clearly means a nutritionist is essential and what Chad, Chris, Hany & Milos are doing is appreciated by their clients (the bodybuilders)
Ronnie clearly stated in Probodybuildingweekly that he won after he got hooked with Chad and that says it all. Do u know how much the nutritionists cost?? Do u think BBers are crazy to give away that kind of money away just to get drugs
And just for the record Nutritionists (Gurus) don’t sell drugs they just ell u what 2 get
Ali,
(http://www.getbig.com/pics/usa/2003/misc/rambod.jpg)
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I hear some arguments that have merit. But if all a guru does is tell you what drugs to get and how to use them, then why hasn't Ronnie ditched Chad yet?...you figure you could find out that info after 3 years and simply do it yourself. There's gotta be a better reason, and the drug hook-up reason (contacts, that kinda thing) is the most reasonable.
But then, in the recent crackdown on steroids, why did the Feds in all their wisdom go after the bodybuilders?...couldn't they have saved a lot of time and money going after a few key gurus? Sure, the bb'ers could turn easier on their gurus if properly motivated, however, what proper law enforcement team goes after the user and NOT the dealer?
I'm not saying gurus are true dealers in that case, they just have the hookups and are substantially rewarded from both supplier and purchaser. This middle man is needed just like in any other drug trade...unless you risk getting the drugs yourself, and we've seen over the years the way pro's get themselves in trouble doing so.
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The nutritionists are also babysitters for the pro's. Even the original guru, Dan Duchaine, said so. Making sure they stay on the diet and shit like that.
And for your last point, Chad has publically said he sold the undetectable diuretic to many Pro's. Hell, even Milos shelled out the 500 bucks for it.
It's funny how Nasser said in Flex magazine that the gurus are nothing but drug connections but hooked up with one a while later.
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I hear some arguments that have merit. But if all a guru does is tell you what drugs to get and how to use them, then why hasn't Ronnie ditched Chad yet?...you figure you could find out that info after 3 years and simply do it yourself. There's gotta be a better reason, and the drug hook-up reason (contacts, that kinda thing) is the most reasonable.
But then, in the recent crackdown on steroids, why did the Feds in all their wisdom go after the bodybuilders?...couldn't they have saved a lot of time and money going after a few key gurus? Sure, the bb'ers could turn easier on their gurus if properly motivated, however, what proper law enforcement team goes after the user and NOT the dealer?
I'm not saying gurus are true dealers in that case, they just have the hookups and are substantially rewarded from both supplier and purchaser. This middle man is needed just like in any other drug trade...unless you risk getting the drugs yourself, and we've seen over the years the way pro's get themselves in trouble doing so.
U said it your self …do u think a BBer will risk going to jail on not telling about the guru??
Most of the BBers these days get their stuff through prescriptions or your centers so they show it is legal …
if u try a way of preparing for a contest … and it did work … so u think it will work the next time??
If that was true Jay would used the 2001 equation and showed the same condition again … once u try some thing the body gets use to it … so if u try it again it will never give u the same results … +gurus never give away all that they know otherwise they will lose their power … and that is y BBers need their gurus
Undetectable diuretics are sold in the pharmacies … u just need to have the knowledge to know what it is … once u know how the test are done and what are they looking for u can always find your way around and have an edge of advantage over others.
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Thats BULLSHIT Lee Preist has always been ripped. These guys go to the guru's for drug advice and and objective eye. PEROID. Hany Rambod knows shit, he totally ruined a good friend of mine condition.
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Thats BULLSHIT Lee Preist has always been ripped. These guys go to the guru's for drug advice and and objective eye. PEROID. Hany Rambod knows shit, he totally ruined a good friend of mine condition.
SAW, you make a good movie but a poor argument.
Lee was finally able to achieve ripped glutes this year as a result of Hany.
Hany also had great success with both Ray Arde and Bill Willmore, turning them pro in the same contest this year.
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Most of the people on Tomanater's list dumped Hany after he totally screwed up their prep: Quincy, Idrise, Troy, Cook. ALL of the achieved their best condition only after they left him. I think most achieved their best condition in their very next contest after leaving him. It was pretty famous how Cook did. The list of people who worked with him once is a LOT longer than the list of people who worked with him twice, and it seems nobody stays with him for long. But believe it or not this isn't even a knock on Haney. It's a knock on drug gurus in general. Bodybuilders are insecure and the pressure is brutal, so most of them run to someone for "help" but drug gurus screw people up more often than not. Guys like Dugdale, Darrem Charles, etc. get the most ripped because they know what's best for themselves, as opposed to some wannabe 1000 miles away telling them waht to do.
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He is only 30 years old. Please tell me how someone at age 26 helped professional bodybuilders improve themselves? And from his interviews in MD, he certainly does not articulate himself as a man with above average intelligence either.
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I always find it interesting when there is talk about the guru's out there. The point is, if they are not doing something, then they wouldn't be hired. They are consultants. They advise.
In regards to Hany, what does being in tip top shape have anything to do with his consulting. Hany used to compete for 7 years in the NPC. Hany is called the Pro Creator in Muscular Development because he has a track record of getting NPC competitors into great shape, and helping them get into the pro levels. You all saw the list on this thread. In regards to the pros, some are with Hany or any other consultant a short time, and others a long time. Hany doesn't provide drugs - anyone who has beeen in this a while knows how to get them - whether prescribed or not.
Hany went to UC Santa Barbara, and got a degree in biology, with an emphasis in neurophysiology. Of course he knows what a Long Island Iced Tea is, after all, if you have ever been to UC Santa Barbara, it is considered a great party school, as well as a very prestigious academic school. Most likely he was just misquoted about the drink. He has a girlfriend, and likes to vacation and relax once in a while. It just happends that he is friends and goes on vacation with Ronnie Coleman. In regards to Ronnie, Hany is his agent, at least he helped negotiate the deal with BSN, in getting Ronnie an incredible contract. The contract is known to be the largest in the history of bodybuilding. I'm sure Ronnie isn't complaining while he drives his new Bentley around Arlington.
As for the ‘Mountain of Ebody’ comment, that didn’t come from Hany. He doesn't say stuff like this. My guess is that it came from a writer trying to jazz up the article.
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As for the ‘Mountain of Ebody’ comment, that didn’t come from Hany. He doesn't say stuff like this. My guess is that it came from a writer trying to jazz up the article.
In that case, Haney needs to visit MD Headquarters and issue a Molotov cocktail to the writer who portrayed him as a man-love muscle worshipper by using that quote.
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It is funny all these Guru,s out there who have no specific education in the field of nutrition or the likes ???
They rely on starving there clients whilst feeding them so mush shit to off set the muscle loss ( I have seen this so so many times it is almost disgusting) and most of them wouldnt even know how to calorie count or the fibre content of a med sized apple never alone work out energy expenditure vs calorie in put etc etc,
Yep there is alot of them, sure some know there stuff, but there is so many who dont and just guess the whole thing through and try and charge big bucks for it !!
Oh well Buyer be awear I guess-- frm Hrdcor- Bsc,DipSec tch
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Ron,
You had me at "prestigious academic instution" -- your description of UC-Santa Barbara. Very funny. The list of great academics who've attended this incredible school is endless. I think US News and World Report ranks it just below Santa Monica Community College. Hey, you went to a better school than Hany! YOU SHOULD BE THE GURU Ron!!
Special "3rd Tier" Ed
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SAW, you make a good movie but a poor argument.
Lee was finally able to achieve ripped glutes this year as a result of Hany.
Hany also had great success with both Ray Arde and Bill Willmore, turning them pro in the same contest this year.
Oh boy, ripped glutes! It's all about the ripped glutes!!!
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Hey - for three or four years - Halloween was spent at UCSB walking up and down that street having fun, drinking some beer, and checking out all of the most interesting outfits. Everyone had a great time, and the police were cool (in the late 1980's). Didn't go to the school (went to CSU Northridge Business), but had a number of friends there via fraternity life).
But for biology, and a few fields, that was the school to go to, like CSU Northridge was for business. At that time, UCLA didn't even have a business degree.
Oh, Hany will be at the Ironman... supporting the show!
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Hey Ron how much is this contract that Ronnie got from BSN? Ballpark figure??
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According to Hany's own article from MD, he did not know what a Long Island Ice Tea was until it was shoved in his face. 30 years old and clueless.
That was a completely lackluster article that did nothing about portray him as a huge Ronnie Schmoe.
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(http://www.getbig.com/pics/usa/2003/misc/rambod.jpg)
Melvin looks thrilled to be in his presence
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The only thing I can add about him is that he didn't seem to know much to me... My friend used him for his 1st pro show and it was a total joke. After their first meeting he wrote out his list of supps for the show and it blew us all away.
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Ron,
You had me at "prestigious academic instution" -- your description of UC-Santa Barbara. Very funny. The list of great academics who've attended this incredible school is endless. I think US News and World Report ranks it just below Santa Monica Community College. Hey, you went to a better school than Hany! YOU SHOULD BE THE GURU Ron!!
Special "3rd Tier" Ed
UCSB has 5 nobel laureates teaching there from the last 8 years, and if you had attended, or even visited for an hour, you'd realize that it's by far the best college on the west coast, or even in the U.S. theres an endless supply of hot girls dressed like this any day of the year. but anyway, i'm sure you'd be more happy with the FOBs at cal!
A girl i nailed (brunette) that special ed would stutter talking to:
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Your complaint regarding you friends sounds to me like sour grapes ("he placed 2nd"), its funny you help some one out , they follow your advice to the letter, they get in the shape of there live, they learn heaps about them selfs and just what can be acheived through dedication and good advise, but yet they still get pissed for all of it, cause they didnt win !!!
It called "Expectation of gradure"!!! Hany I bet he is stil following what your taught him to date, and I bet all the way through helping him he was saying --"yes yes, brilliant , your the man '!!
Untill he got second, (this has happened to me a couple of times whilst aiding people acheive there all time best, it just comes with the nature of the game)
There is no doubt Hany is good at what he does, he has alot of knowledge and education in this field, that shows in his success and thats why people go to him for help, and he is a funny dude to boot (who likes young chics!!) Hany cant wait to catch up and chew the fat (so to speak) ;)
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Say all you want about the dude. he know's how 2 fix a physique. I don't like the guy personally (i love the anonimty on here) but the fucken persian knows what 2 do. hes got what 6/7 guys the turned pro thats an accomplishment 4 your ass.
Plus all your guys hero PRIEST y'all can't hate on him
BUT HE IS A SCHMOE!!!!!!!! hehehehe
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There are alot of "guru's" out there and yet all of the top pro's use Hany,Chad, or Chris....they have to be pretty good at what they do. Lee was in the best shape of his life after working with Hany.
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Like him or not - the point is - if these guys didn't have a good rep, then they wouldnt be used. Simple as that. So what are the top names that many people talk about in the industry at the moment - Chad Nicholls, Chris Aceto, Hany Rambod, Milos Sarcev.
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I am a guru. I will be doing a contest prep with someone well known...
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adam, any thoughts on DBol? what about stacking it with Meth?
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I'm eating ice cream every night and growing. It's to easy sometimes.
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I'm eating ice cream every night and growing. It's to easy sometimes.
Don`t forget to rinse the ice cream containers.
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There are alot of "guru's" out there and yet all of the top pro's use Hany,Chad, or Chris....they have to be pretty good at what they do. Lee was in the best shape of his life after working with Hany.
But what about all the guys who tanked when they worked with him: Melvin, Cook, Troy, Idrise, Quincy, and on and on. Or how about all the years Arde blew it in the end? Does he take the blame for them too? The guru success rate is like those gambling services that say their "locks" hit 85% of the time, but they don't tell you about the other "locks" on those other lines that tanked 85% of the time. As the season goes on they focus only on the winning line and forget the rest. I can't blame 'em, but they shouldn't blame others for telling it like it is.
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HRDCOR
Did you read anything i posted? What Haney put down for his contest cycle was ridiculous. My friend didn't use his advice because he wasn't willing to push the extreme like that. Sour grapes?? He was very happy with his placings... the only sour grapes was at the waste of 3K....Haney didn't do his diet... the advice was for supps only... so yes my friend was in the shape of his life due to his years of exp....
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Posted by: NCNPC29 Posted on: Today at 03:48:59 PM
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HRDCOR
Did you read anything i posted? What Haney put down for his contest cycle was ridiculous. My friend didn't use his advice because he wasn't willing to push the extreme like that. Sour grapes?? He was very happy with his placings... the only sour grapes was at the waste of 3K....Haney didn't do his diet... the advice was for supps only... so yes my friend was in the shape of his life due to his years of exp....
Oh ok , well I see it is a lot more involved than I read into it , I took it as a comp prep diet and supp advice !!(when you talk supps you mean gear right?)
Shit 3k for supp advice , hell I am moving to the states !!!
Hany does have a good following though and is highly regarded.
Prehaps your mate should have taken this issue up with Hany at the time, as a proffesional I am sure the problem would have been adressed and solved !!
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I completely agree with you but that wasn't my place to suggest. I was just giving my opinion of my only interaction with him which was second hand. I've paid my dues in this sport so I was just a little shocked at his protocols.... just didn't seem like there was any thought put into it.
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Hany throws Bill WIllmore under the bus in the latest MD. :-\
Anyone who's read the article knows what I'm talking about.
i think willmore might get a top 5 this year, he's not awful. he's no phil heath, but he's no will harris either.
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Hany throws Bill WIllmore under the bus in the latest MD. :-\
Anyone who's read the article knows what I'm talking about.
i think willmore might get a top 5 this year, he's not awful. he's no phil heath, but he's no will harris either.
we get it 240
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this guy works out at campbell california golds gym all the time, last time i saw him he was working out with chris cook. coook was hittin inclines for 365x6 reps
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UCSB has 5 nobel laureates teaching there from the last 8 years, and if you had attended, or even visited for an hour, you'd realize that it's by far the best college on the west coast, or even in the U.S. theres an endless supply of hot girls dressed like this any day of the year. but anyway, i'm sure you'd be more happy with the FOBs at cal!
A girl i nailed (brunette) that special ed would stutter talking to:
Now wait a gosh darn tootin' second here pardner...I never said nuttin about the gals at UCSB -- in fact on my visits to the school, I seen an unbelievable selection for Playboy to draw from...so much so that I was understandin that its fixin to be the #1 party school on the west coast. But number one for acacdemicks? Hmmm...Stanford, UC-Berkley, and Cal-Poly might have something to say about that friend.
And I n-n-n-n-neeed a b-b-b-b-better picture of that b-b-b-b-brunette to see if she warrants st-st-st-stuttering or just sp-sp-sp-spunking on her stomach.
Special "Happy Gilmore" Ed
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ucsb is ranked 13th among all public universities in the u.s. where'd you go?
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ucsb is ranked 13th among all public universities in the u.s. where'd you go?
Is that ranking based on a guy who attended every university or is that like you saying UCSB is better than SUNY-Binghamton or University of Michigan or University of Virginia, and so it is ranked higher. While you're researching, please post the five worst public universities so we can guess which one you attended for one semester before flunking out.
Special "US Spews and Girl Report" Ed
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Is that ranking based on a guy who attended every university or is that like you saying UCSB is better than SUNY-Binghamton or University of Michigan or University of Virginia, and so it is ranked higher. While you're researching, please post the five worst public universities so we can guess which one you attended for one semester before flunking out.
Special "US Spews and Girl Report" Ed
are you a complete dumbfuck? why do you think i posted that picture of the beach right in the middle of 6500 block del playa? why do you think i've been singing ucsb's praises? i went there while you were at Bob Jones giving your roommate a handjob while he watched crank yankers. probably still wear a helmet around doncha? still afraid of the mushroom stamp...
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FATBOY CAN TELL YOU HANY AINT SHHIT!
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U really think so …
Lee Priest said in 1 of his videos or articles that he doesn’t need a nutritionist cause he knows his body more than anyone else any he has been training for like 20 years or so. He also said he thinks people get nutritionists so they can blame him when they don’t do well … every 1 saw the improvements lee made after hooking up with Hany … and he never got that shredded, hard and detailed before. Which clearly means a nutritionist is essential and what Chad, Chris, Hany & Milos are doing is appreciated by their clients (the bodybuilders)
Ronnie clearly stated in Probodybuildingweekly that he won after he got hooked with Chad and that says it all. Do u know how much the nutritionists cost?? Do u think BBers are crazy to give away that kind of money away just to get drugs
And just for the record Nutritionists (Gurus) don’t sell drugs they just ell u what 2 get
Ali,
(http://www.getbig.com/pics/usa/2003/misc/rambod.jpg)
Obviously not appreciated enough to get off the phone and smile for a photo...
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Mark Dugdale doesn't use a 'guru' as u put it. But, I did read a quote from him saying he has read Chris Aceto's book over 50 times.
After reading this I bought the book, followed it to a T, and came in bigger, drier and harder than I had in the past.
"Championship Bodybuilding"- a must read
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UCLA has NEVER had a Bus prog...the ONLY degree you could get that was even close, was Econ
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Mark Dugdale doesn't use a 'guru' as u put it. But, I did read a quote from him saying he has read Chris Aceto's book over 50 times.
After reading this I bought the book, followed it to a T, and came in bigger, drier and harder than I had in the past.
"Championship Bodybuilding"- a must read
Chris's book is very good. It was the first book I ever read when I got into bodybuilding. On another note look at Lee Priest throughout his career vs. his pic on the Ironman section yesterday (2 days out from the Ironman) :Lee Priest before and after Hany...