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Title: Food poisoning
Post by: bigmc on August 07, 2014, 02:55:00 AM
So I've had severe abdominal cramps

And vomiting since Sunday

Not been able to take in any food

I've lost fifteen pounds

I look like shit

Any tips on getting my eAting going again I have zero appetite

My stomach is distended and rock hard

I can keep water down since yesterday so dehydration fixed
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: SuperTed on August 07, 2014, 03:00:19 AM
I usually just take probiotic yogurt like Actimel when I get food poisoning. It usually goes within two or so days then.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: phreak on August 07, 2014, 03:04:41 AM
bigmc shitting his brains out. In another topic: UK overrun by Middle Easterners this week.

Coincidence? I think not.




On a serious note, you aldosterone is out of whack for dehydration, causing you to bloat. Make sure you get enough salts and minerals (ORS supplements). Usually once that is settled (and the bloating pissed away), the appetite returns quickly.

Dangerous mistake to assume you are not dehydrated because you can drink water. If your electrolytes are not in some semblance of balance, the water cannot be transported through the cell walls, so you can drink however much you want yet your body cannot absorb it.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Skorp1o on August 07, 2014, 03:13:03 AM
plain white rice a little bit of salt is the only thing I can bare. It helps a lot with recovery.

For protein I'd stick to eggs mostly whites, as your digestive system is very weakened now it won't cope well with animal proteins. Pro-biotic yoghurts are ok too. But I find lactose a bit heavy on me when going through a bout like this.

I have battled stomach ulcers and severe gastritis on and off for a while, its finally under control since I chose what I eat a lot carefully.

You did say you had a weak digestive system in that you can't tolerate indian and I remember you struggled like I did with that Nando's we had with Gal. I'd say stay away from animal protein until you feel better. White rice and mashed potatoes work well for carbs
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: wolfrittner on August 07, 2014, 03:17:21 AM
Shit that sounds awful! I hope its not ebola.!lol Just kidding mc. just kidding
 Just eat very light and see what you can keep down. I think it gonna take a fey day before your stomach can handle real food again.  Your body needs to have a healthy amount of ''good'' bacteria in the digestive tract, and many yogurts are made using active, good bacteria. I think thats pretty easy on the stomch as well.
I hope you feel better soon.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: booty on August 07, 2014, 03:19:52 AM
Hope you feel better soon bigmc.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Pumpzilla on August 07, 2014, 04:41:49 AM
Agh!! I feel for ya. Had food poisoning so bad once that I threw up so hard it tore the right outer sheath of my abdominal wall. In some cases you'll need antibiotics. I had to go on them and a friend of mine as well.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: visualizeperfection on August 07, 2014, 04:54:47 AM
Doctors bro.


Could be really bad news.


I dabbled in some recently, undercooked mexican chorizo. Drunk cooking. Never good.


Shit about a gallon of shitpiss turd water and had horrid stomach cramps that had me almost to tears in bed. No vomiting, all shitting.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: crownshep on August 07, 2014, 05:04:56 AM
Worst i ever had was from chicken,forgot to wash my hands and the ex missus bought home a french loaf for us to have the chicken with,my hands touch the bread,next day i wanted to die.Never felt so bad in my life,3 days of non stop vomitting and diahorrea.Drink lots of water and soup if you can stomach it,your appetite will soon come back.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: bigmc on August 07, 2014, 05:56:09 AM
Had four spoons of white rice and salt

And a can of flat coke

Fingers crossed
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Simple Simon on August 07, 2014, 06:05:28 AM
Had four spoons of white rice and salt

And a can of flat coke

Fingers legs crossed

fixed
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: booty on August 07, 2014, 06:26:04 AM
Agh!! I feel for ya. Had food poisoning so bad once that I threw up so hard it tore the right outer sheath of my abdominal wall. In some cases you'll need antibiotics. I had to go on them and a friend of mine as well.
omggg you poor thing  :o
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Grape Ape on August 07, 2014, 06:34:15 AM
Had four spoons of white rice and salt

And a can of flat coke

Fingers crossed

Patience, my friend.  The weight you lost was just water and shit.   Take your time.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: pedro01 on August 07, 2014, 06:54:29 AM
Had four spoons of white rice and salt

And a can of flat coke

Fingers crossed

Can you get straight up coconut juice out there?

No additives, no sugar, no reconstituted - just the water out the coconut?

If so - it should get down easily and should have you feeling much better within about 5 mins.

Flat can of coke is probably not the best thing though...

Coconut juice = magic food.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: phreak on August 07, 2014, 06:59:25 AM
Can you get straight up coconut juice out there?

No additives, no sugar, no reconstituted - just the water out the coconut?

If so - it should get down easily and should have you feeling much better within about 5 mins.

Flat can of coke is probably not the best thing though...

Coconut juice = magic food.

Could work as a stopper. ???
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: pedro01 on August 07, 2014, 07:09:10 AM
Could work as a stopper. ???

Easier just to borrow a butt plug off the wife, I find.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: booty on August 07, 2014, 07:15:14 AM
Could work as a stopper. ???
:D
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: bigmc on August 07, 2014, 07:21:50 AM
Can you get straight up coconut juice out there?

No additives, no sugar, no reconstituted - just the water out the coconut?

If so - it should get down easily and should have you feeling much better within about 5 mins.

Flat can of coke is probably not the best thing though...

Coconut juice = magic food.

My Mrs is picking me up some natural coconut water for me

Good tip thanks

The flat coke was recommended by the medic

Replaces glucose
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Simple Simon on August 07, 2014, 07:23:12 AM
Coconut water is fucking disgusting, its like watered down semen ( trainer told me)
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Skorp1o on August 07, 2014, 08:26:13 AM
My Mrs is picking me up some natural coconut water for me

Good tip thanks

The flat coke was recommended by the medic

Replaces glucose

Coke is very good for upset stomachs if you have sickness (throwing up)

But you need to bare in mind its acidic and an irritant when the stomach lining is already stressed.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Pumpzilla on August 07, 2014, 08:28:07 AM
Coconut water is fucking disgusting, its like watered down semen ( trainer told me)

Yeah, I hear trainer is full of tips.  ;)
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: pedro01 on August 07, 2014, 08:39:35 AM
Coconut water is fucking disgusting, its like watered down semen ( trainer told me)

Naaaaa - it's lovely.

More importantly, as well as tasting nice, it is fantastic when you are sick (or hung over).

Quote
Coconut water has been generally offered to patients with diarrhea in many tropic regions to replace the fluid loss from the gastrointestinal tract and to reduce the need for intravenous therapy. The osmolarity of tender coconut water is slightly greater than that of WHO recommended ORS (Oral Rehydration Therapy) solution. Presence of other biological constituents like amino acids, enzymes, minerals, and fatty acids may account for this higher osmolarity. Nonetheless, unlike WHO-ORS, its water is very low in sodium and chlorides, but rich in sugars and amino acids. This well-balanced fluid composition, along with much-needed calories, would be an ideal drink instead of any other kind of soft drink beverages to rectify dehydration conditions.

Coconut water is composed of many naturally occurring bioactive enzymes such as acid phosphatase, catalase, dehydrogenase, diastase, peroxidase, RNA-polymerases etc. In effect, these enzymes help in the digestion and metabolism.

Despite being very light in consistency, its water has proportionately better composition of minerals like calcium, iron, manganese, magnesium, and zinc than some of the fruit juices like oranges. (Compare the mineral composition of oranges).
Its liquid is also a very good source of B-complex vitamins such as riboflavin, niacin, thiamin, pyridoxine, and folates. These vitamins are essential in the sense that the human body requires them from external sources to replenish.

Coconut water contains very good amount of electrolyte potassium. 100 ml of water has 250 mg of potassium and 105 mg of sodium. Together, these electrolytes help replenish electrolyte deficiency in the body due to diarrhea (loose stools).

Further, fresh coconut water has a small amount of vitamin-C (Ascorbic acid); It provides about 2.4 mg or 4% of RDA. Vitamin C is a water-soluble ant-oxidant.

http://www.nutrition-and-you.com/coconut-water.html

See - even the internet says it's good
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: BigCyp on August 07, 2014, 08:54:24 AM
Hope you get better soon buddy, I didn't enjoy the flat coke and rice  ;D
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: CalvinH on August 07, 2014, 11:26:45 AM


I've lost fifteen pounds

I look like shit

Any tips on getting my eAting going again I have zero appetite

My stomach is distended and rock hard




Now is time to hammer the test and tren :)
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Mawse on August 07, 2014, 11:37:03 AM
Look on the bright side, how often can you diet and lost that much weight in such a short time?

I had it coming out both ends after a trip to a Mongolian Grill a few years back and dropped the same amount of weight. Once the belly bloat goes away you actually look better for a few days
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: bigmc on August 07, 2014, 12:15:16 PM


Now is time to hammer the test and tren :)

I'm never going above Trt again
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: CalvinH on August 07, 2014, 12:25:18 PM
I'm never going above Trt again


Pip :'(
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Simple Simon on August 07, 2014, 12:28:27 PM
I'm never going above Trt again
Depends on your interpretation of TRT    ;D
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: bigmc on August 07, 2014, 12:42:24 PM
Depends on your interpretation of TRT    ;D

200 a week

Not to high?
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Simple Simon on August 07, 2014, 12:43:28 PM
200 a week

Not to high?
Sounds good to me, I think they prescribe that amount for a fortnight though.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Omega on August 07, 2014, 12:47:25 PM
What did you eat?
My missus had it other day. From both ends.
I have never, ever known here to smell bad but Jesus wept the whole of the upstairs was rancid.
The cats eyes were watering.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: bigmc on August 07, 2014, 01:16:12 PM
What did you eat?
My missus had it other day. From both ends.
I have never, ever known here to smell bad but Jesus wept the whole of the upstairs was rancid.
The cats eyes were watering.

We had a barbeque with the two danger foods

Chicken and seafood you deshell yourself

And took the kids to tgi Fridays

Where the food took an hour to come mine tasted 're heated

I started to feel shit about four hours later

Driving back down to England

I basically felt like shitting myself for the last three hours

But it was just me and the kids so I stayed in emergency parent mode

When I got home I ran upstairs didn't get away from the bowl for 12 hours
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Bertha Butt on August 08, 2014, 12:47:43 AM
Hope you're feeling better now! And that you're able to eat again.
It is more important to eat something - even if it's not perfect BB-food.

I prefer plain yoghurt, saltines, hard dry (Dutch) biscuits, chicken soup, banana or plain white rice when my insides are that much upset. Oh, and tea, lots and lots of weak black tea.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: bigmc on August 08, 2014, 04:32:24 AM
Tried to get up today

I'm weak as a baby kitten

Got very dizzy

My Mrs is away for the weekend

Fuck
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: visualizeperfection on August 08, 2014, 04:37:21 AM
Tried to get up today

I'm weak as a baby kitten

Got very dizzy

My Mrs is away for the weekend

Fuck

If your next post looks like this.

I'm not feeling so gooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooo


Ill send rescue.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: CalvinH on August 08, 2014, 06:59:41 AM
Tried to get up today

I'm weak as a baby kitten

Got very dizzy

My Mrs is away for the weekend

Fuck



Make sure your drinking a lot of water and Gatorade so you don't dehydrate.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: bigmc on August 08, 2014, 08:10:02 AM
I wimped out and rang the doctor

On meds now
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: visualizeperfection on August 08, 2014, 09:00:29 AM
I wimped out and rang the doctor

On meds now

Would of surely been discarded in Sparta.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Skorp1o on August 08, 2014, 09:47:09 AM
Would of surely been discarded in Sparta.

Down the pit with wonky babies
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: visualizeperfection on August 08, 2014, 11:01:14 AM
I wimped out and rang the doctor

On meds now

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Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: bigmc on August 08, 2014, 11:33:52 AM


Haha

In my defence all the fucking women in my family

We're harassing me because

I died a couple of years ago and was resuscitated

But it is pretty fucking lightweight
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: visualizeperfection on August 08, 2014, 12:20:13 PM
Haha

In my defence all the fucking women in my family

We're harassing me because

I died a couple of years ago and was resuscitated

But it is pretty fucking lightweight

I would love to be that Ambu Bag man.

Im just busting your balls. I go to the doctor with a hangnail.

Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Skorp1o on August 08, 2014, 01:45:27 PM
Haha

In my defence all the fucking women in my family

We're harassing me because

I died a couple of years ago and was resuscitated

But it is pretty fucking lightweight

No shit
 
"Did you died" becomes  grammatically correct
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Simple Simon on August 08, 2014, 01:48:02 PM
Down the pit with wonky babies
Lol, wonky babies.   ;D
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Primemuscle on August 08, 2014, 02:07:17 PM
Tried to get up today

I'm weak as a baby kitten

Got very dizzy

My Mrs is away for the weekend

Fuck

She left you to fend for yourself? That's not very nice.

Are you just being a big baby about this whole situation and she's onto you or something like that?
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: bigmc on August 09, 2014, 03:41:39 AM
She left you to fend for yourself? That's not very nice.

Are you just being a big baby about this whole situation and she's onto you or something like that?

I've had 5 days off sick in the last ten Years

Three of them were in hospital

So no I'm not
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Primemuscle on August 09, 2014, 11:02:16 AM
I've had 5 days off sick in the last ten Years

Three of them were in hospital

So no I'm not

Hope you know I was kidding you. Also hope your feeling better.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: bigmc on August 11, 2014, 02:13:34 PM
Went to the doctor today

I'm 16 st 1

Looks like I'm gluten free for life

Which means I can't eat anything I like

Fuck
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Simple Simon on August 11, 2014, 02:25:23 PM
Went to the doctor today

I'm 16 st 1

Looks like I'm gluten free for life

Which means I can't eat anything I like

Fuck
Couple over the road from me get all their bread and pasta from the chemist on prescription, free fucking prescription at that.

I and every other fucking taxpayer is paying for their bread.
Why cant they just not eat gluten foods?
Cheeky c.unts.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Bertha Butt on August 11, 2014, 09:52:33 PM
Went to the doctor today

I'm 16 st 1

Looks like I'm gluten free for life

Which means I can't eat anything I like

Fuck

Bullshit!
I'm on a GF diet for 2-3 years now, and I can eat almost anything I want. Pasta, dumplings, cakes, pies... You just have to be creative and know your way around the kitchen. And shop smart. Going GF actually boosted my creativity in cooking.

If you need recipes, let me know.
(or do you want a sticky topic with a weekly new GF recipe?  ;D )
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Primemuscle on August 11, 2014, 09:55:09 PM
Went to the doctor today

I'm 16 st 1

Looks like I'm gluten free for life

Which means I can't eat anything I like

Fuck

Did food poisoning cause you to become a celiac? Why are you just finding out that you are gluten intolerant?
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Bertha Butt on August 11, 2014, 09:58:01 PM
Couple over the road from me get all their bread and pasta from the chemist on prescription, free fucking prescription at that.

I and every other fucking taxpayer is paying for their bread.
Why cant they just not eat gluten foods?
Cheeky c.unts.

What the...? Wow!
In Holland you could get a tax reduction when you have to eat GF, but getting that reduction is hard, virtually impossible. And the reduction is lowered every year now, so it's hardly worth to go after it.
I'll just wait for some GF sales and stock up...  :-[
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Primemuscle on August 11, 2014, 09:59:42 PM
Couple over the road from me get all their bread and pasta from the chemist on prescription, free fucking prescription at that.

I and every other fucking taxpayer is paying for their bread.
Why cant they just not eat gluten foods?
Cheeky c.unts.

If you'd ever known someone who is gluten intolerant, you wouldn't ask this question. Talk about smelly shits and diarrhea, celiacs have it really bad.  
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Simple Simon on August 11, 2014, 10:21:13 PM
If you'd ever known someone who is gluten intolerant, you wouldn't ask this question. Talk about smelly shits and diarrhea, celiacs have it really bad.  
errrr... just dont eat foods that contain gluten.
Dont expect me to be happy for me to pay for the alternatives.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Novena on August 11, 2014, 10:28:45 PM
A company is working on a GMO wheat that has no gluten.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Primemuscle on August 11, 2014, 10:32:17 PM
errrr... just dont eat foods that contain gluten.
Dont expect me to be happy for me to pay for the alternatives.

Well, in the U.S. (as best as I know) there are no prescriptions for gluten free diets and which are covered my government stipends.

Are you gluten intolerant? It seems to be the latest thing that people are obsessed about. Truth is if a person is not gluten intolerant, they actually need gluten in their diet. Be cautious not to fall for some craze that's in style. Our local high end market has a ton of gluten free foods. The fact that they are available there and not so much at the neighborhood Walmart should tell people something.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Simple Simon on August 12, 2014, 12:12:52 AM
Well, in the U.S. (as best as I know) there are no prescriptions for gluten free diets and which are covered my government stipends.

Are you gluten intolerant? It seems to be the latest thing that people are obsessed about. Truth is if a person is not gluten intolerant, they actually need gluten in their diet. Be cautious not to fall for some craze that's in style. Our local high end market has a ton of gluten free foods. The fact that they are available there and not so much at the neighborhood Walmart should tell people something.
Have a guess, based on my previuos posts.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: phreak on August 12, 2014, 12:33:41 AM
Truth is if a person is not gluten intolerant, they actually need gluten in their diet.
ORLY? Any proof for this besides Dr. Oz or some such quack? You do realize that the eating of gluten from wheat is a relatively new development for humans, with large parts of the world not having it available until 100-200 years ago?


Quote
Our local high end market has a ton of gluten free foods. The fact that they are available there and not so much at the neighborhood Walmart should tell people something.
Yes, it tells you that poor people cannot afford avoiding to gluten.



Yes, it is also trendy to avoid gluten. But that does not mean there's nothing to it. I'll let Bertha take this one, as she is allergic to wheat. Not the same as gluten intolerance, but ten times worse. More like a peanut allergy, where she cannot even eat dextrose made from wheat.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Bertha Butt on August 12, 2014, 12:55:59 AM
errrr... just dont eat foods that contain gluten.

Sometimes a lot harder than you think. About 80% of what you find in the supermarket contains gluten. Of course you have to skip bread and bakery stuff, cereals, candy, snacks and prefab meals.
And for the rest, you really have to check labels. Wheat starch is often used as thickener or filler in so many products. This starch can be gluten free (actually gluten low) or contain too much for a celiac. Corn starch is not always an alternative, because it can be contaminated with wheat/gluten (same mill?) Wheat flour is/was often used in herbs and spice mixes to add volume. Wheat is the basis for soy sauce, so anything with soy sauce is off your grocery list. Anything with broth is suspicious because it often contains gluten. You can't use normal broth cubes anymore. Hell, I even found a brand of tea that had traces of gluten in it, because they used pieces of dried fruit that might have some traces of wheat flour on them.

It also common to start the GF diet with a few months of lactose free too. Don't know about the UK, but here I found that most prepared chicken breast contains milk protein (and therefore lactose).

Quote
Dont expect me to be happy for me to pay for the alternatives.

I agree.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Bertha Butt on August 12, 2014, 01:03:03 AM
Truth is if a person is not gluten intolerant, they actually need gluten in their diet.

I've heard that from some hippowhales in the gym, when they say an add for shirataki noodles. Low kcal, that's nice. Low carbs, that's probably nice. No gluten, oh no, you instantly die if you eat that!

Besides that, I haven't heard you should eat gluten. I haven't researched it, so perhaps this is bullocks, but my guess is it's a rumour started by food industries so they can keep on adding cheap wheat to anything and everything.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: bigmc on August 12, 2014, 01:04:27 AM
I'm not celiac

I just show up wheat on the allergy test

I've had stomach problems for a while

I struggle with fatty red meats and dairy too

My favourite cheat foods are pizza and bacon sandwich

Gluten free pizzas are shit
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Bertha Butt on August 12, 2014, 01:13:28 AM
I'll let Bertha take this one, as she is allergic to wheat. Not the same as gluten intolerance, but ten times worse. More like a peanut allergy, where she cannot even eat dextrose made from wheat.

Luckily not as deadly. But it's a lot trickier to find wheat free food. Most celiacs can eat gluten free wheat starch, which is actually low gluten wheat starch. And except for some very sensitive celiacs, most can eat glucosesyrup and dextrose derived from wheat.
With a wheat allergy, you can not. And manufacturers do not always label where their starch, malt, maltsyrup, glucosesyrup or dextrose comes from. Could be wheat, could be corn, rice, potato, barly... And often times they just use what is cheapest at that moment. So, one batch can be safe, and the next not.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: phreak on August 12, 2014, 01:47:34 AM
Gluten free pizzas are shit

(http://makeameme.org/media/created/I-hear-you-2qxqck.jpg)
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Bertha Butt on August 12, 2014, 02:03:36 AM
I think this one is easy enough...
Only tricky part is to find GF soy sauce. Kikkoman has a nice one that I use often. It's actually 'tamari', a slightly different sauce.
(http://static.mijnwebwinkel.nl/winkel/multicultifood/full19082146.jpg)

Chicken Teriyaki
- 300 g chicken thighs in cubes (or about 2 chicken breasts in cubes)
- 1 tablespoon GF soy sauce
- 4 tablespoons water
- 1/2 teaspoon finely chopped fresh ginger
- 3 tablespoons honey
- 1 tablespoon GF corn starch or potato flour

Mix soy sauce, water, ginger and honey and marinade the chicken cubes in it for an hour (in the fridge).
Place the cubes on skewers and roast them on the barbecue or in the oven (45 min on 220 degrees Celsius). In a hurry? Stir fry the pieces in a skillet.
Heat the left over marinade until it boils. Mix corn starch with some cold water and add to the sauce. It will thicken instantly, so keep stirring. Pour over the well done skewers. And serve with white rice and broccoli or any other vegetable.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Bertha Butt on August 12, 2014, 02:18:52 AM
This one is for left overs, so feel free to change the vegetables. It does require quite some chopping...

Cuban breakfast
- 3 potatoes, boiled and in bite size cubes
- 3 carrots in slices
- 500 g minced meat (chicken, beef, pork, or mixed)
- some salt and pepper
- 1-2 cloves of garlic finely chopped
- 1 onion chopped
- 1 sweet red pepper chopped
- 2 tablespoons raisins
- 6 tablespoon peas (I use frozen peas)
- 125 ml tomatosauce like passata
- some oil

- 4 eggs
- 4 small bananas (or preferably 2 plantains) in thick slices
- white rice or fried rice

Heat the oil and stir fry garlic and onion, add meat and fry until done. Add vegetables and sauce. Let it simmer a few minutes. Add salt and pepper to taste.
Meanwhile, fry eggs, cook rice and fry the banana slices. Serve warm.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: pedro01 on August 12, 2014, 02:19:17 AM
Went to the doctor today

I'm 16 st 1

Looks like I'm gluten free for life

Which means I can't eat anything I like

Fuck

How did he come to this conclusion?

You gonna get a 2nd opinion?
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: phreak on August 12, 2014, 02:24:32 AM
In this topic everyone will discover why I'm fat... :P
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: bigmc on August 12, 2014, 02:28:45 AM
How did he come to this conclusion?

You gonna get a 2nd opinion?

my wife has been rattling on about me going gluten free for ages

when i got poorly i said id get tested

i just discussed it with the doctor about gluten free and he concurred

to be fair to him he is one of those docs that doesnt want to load you up on meds to treat the symptoms

but rather address the cause
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Bertha Butt on August 12, 2014, 02:29:27 AM
Filipino Chicken Tocino
- 500 g chicken thighs in cubes
- 3 garlic gloves finely chopped
- some salt and pepper
- 2 tablespoons palm sugar or brown sugar
- 4 tablespoons pineapple juice (or use apple juice or orange juice)
- 1 teaspoon GF soy sauce
- some oil

Mix juice, sugar, salt, pepper, soy sauce and garlic. Marinade chicken in it for an hour.
Heat oil and fry chicken.
Serve with fried rice, scrambled eggs, fried onion and tomato. (or plain rice and roasted onion and tomato for less fat)
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Bertha Butt on August 12, 2014, 02:35:37 AM
In this topic everyone will discover why I'm fat... :P

 ;D

And I haven't even started on the South African dishes. Those old fashioned chicken curry skewers with apricot, or pork chops with honey butter and vanilla potatoes. Or minced meat with 3 cheeses. Spaghetti pie with bacon and cheese... Buttermilk-cornbread...
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: phreak on August 12, 2014, 04:23:30 AM
Maybe for the carb-addicted among us, you should post some starchy recipes. We both had problems letting go of the concept of eating bread and pasta, so some tips for that could be helpful. E.g. corn pasta, rice pasta products, etc.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Simple Simon on August 12, 2014, 05:02:40 AM
Sometimes a lot harder than you think.

Not that hard bearing in mind your wildly varied diet.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Bertha Butt on August 12, 2014, 05:06:53 AM
Maybe for the carb-addicted among us, you should post some starchy recipes. We both had problems letting go of the concept of eating bread and pasta, so some tips for that could be helpful. E.g. corn pasta, rice pasta products, etc.

I still haven't found a satisfying recipe for GF bread. They turn out dry, heavy, flat, way to crumbly or just bland. The few occasions we do eat bread, it's usually a pre-baked bread by Schär.
http://www.schaer.com/en/gluten-free-products/bread (http://www.schaer.com/en/gluten-free-products/bread)
I highly recommend their Master Baker's bread, (mini) baguettes and ciabattines. (note: only the croissants do contain glutenfree wheat starch, the rest is wheat free)

For pasta I prefer this brand, although a bit pricey, it's texture is the best so far. It's made of 100% brown rice. And they have lasagna!
http://www.rizopia.com/ (http://www.rizopia.com/)

Orgran has some nice rice and corn pasta. But their cookies were awful...
http://www.orgran.com/products (http://www.orgran.com/products)
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Bertha Butt on August 12, 2014, 05:20:27 AM
Maybe for the carb-addicted among us, you should post some starchy recipes. We both had problems letting go of the concept of eating bread and pasta, so some tips for that could be helpful. E.g. corn pasta, rice pasta products, etc.

And one of your favourites:

This sauce goes very well with Orgran's Chili Pasta Spirals.

Pasta with Spicy Chicken-Feta sauce
- 300 g chicken in cubes
- 1 onion, chopped
- 2-4 garlic cloves, chopped
- 4-6 big tomatoes, diced
- 1 can tomato puree
- 250 ml water
- 1 tablespoon GF chicken broth powder (I use Sublimix)
- 1 teaspoon thyme
- 1 teaspoon oregano
- 1-5 teaspoons sambal (depends on how spicy you want)
- to taste: sugar, salt, spice
- 100 g feta, cubes
- some fresh parsley

Fry onion, chicken and garlic in some oil until done.
Add tomatoes and let simmer until all tomato pieces are 'melted'.
Add tomato puree, water and broth and let it simmer for another 15 minutes.
Add herbs, spices, and salt, pepper, sugar to taste.
Pour on all dente cooked GF pasta and garnish with feta and parsley.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Simple Simon on August 12, 2014, 05:27:01 AM
I think these recipes warrent their own thread
Bertha Butts belly busters (wheat free)
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: pedro01 on August 12, 2014, 05:29:40 AM
my wife has been rattling on about me going gluten free for ages

when i got poorly i said id get tested

i just discussed it with the doctor about gluten free and he concurred

to be fair to him he is one of those docs that doesnt want to load you up on meds to treat the symptoms

but rather address the cause

Any chance of a false positive on the test? Especially considering you are getting over an illness and meds for that?
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Primemuscle on August 12, 2014, 12:00:20 PM
Have a guess, based on my previuos posts.

I don't like assuming things about people, which is why I asked if you were gluten intolerant. If you want me to guess, then I would guess that at least you think you are gluten intolerant. It is somewhat difficult to medically diagnose gluten intolerance, but there are tests available. Has a doctor diagnosed you with this condition or is this a self diagnosis? Unfortunately, a lot of people are self-diagnosing this condition. People who aren't gluten intolerant need gluten in their diet.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Simple Simon on August 12, 2014, 12:02:49 PM
I don't like assuming things about people, which is why I asked if you were gluten intolerant. If you want me to guess, then I would guess that at least you think you are gluten intolerant. It is somewhat difficult to medically diagnose gluten intolerance, but there are tests available. Has a doctor diagnosed you with this condition or is this a self diagnosis? Unfortunately, a lot of people are self-diagnosing this condition. People who aren't gluten intolerant need gluten in their diet.
How on earth have you come to that conclusion, Im genuinely interested.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Primemuscle on August 12, 2014, 12:13:58 PM
How on earth have you come to that conclusion, Im genuinely interested.

Which conclusion? That you may have self-diagnosed being gluten intolerant? Or that people who aren't gluten intolerant need some gluten in their diet?

Here are some interesting documents regarding gluten intolerance and how folks are dealing with this today.

ww.webmd.com/diet/healthy-kitchen-11/truth-about-gluten]http://www.webmd.com/diet/healthy-kitchen-11/truth-about-gluten (http://w[quote)

http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-living/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/gluten-free-diet/art-20048530
 (http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-living/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/gluten-free-diet/art-20048530)
http://www.jillianmichaels.com/fit/lose-weight/myth-gluten-free (http://www.jillianmichaels.com/fit/lose-weight/myth-gluten-free)

Quote
The Truth: Only about one percent of the American population needs to be gluten-free because of an autoimmune disorder called celiac disease. Most people do not have to worry about gluten and should eat whole grains as part of a balanced diet.

[/quote]A decade ago, few Americans had heard of gluten. Today, one survey says, almost a third are trying to avoid the element found in grain. In growing numbers, the world's biggest food makers and restaurant chains are retooling recipes and labels to tap into the concern, creating a multibillion-dollar business out of gluten-free products.[/quote]

Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Simple Simon on August 12, 2014, 12:16:24 PM
Are you trolling, surely you cant be so off the mark on purpose.

Im not gluten intolerant at all, not in the slightest at no point have I indicated I am.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Primemuscle on August 12, 2014, 12:27:36 PM
Are you trolling, surely you cant be so off the mark on purpose.

Im not gluten intolerant at all, not in the slightest at no point have I indicated I am.

You are right of course. I thought I read that you indicated you were gluten free. Looking back through the posts, I see that I was mistaken and that you did not post that at all. You simply complained about folks getting gluten free products using government assistance. Sorry for the misunderstanding. There was no intent to troll you. Of this you can be sure.

Unless someone is on the dole anyway, I see no reason why they should be given money to pay for a special diet. Because eating gluten free foods is a big craze, they tend to be more expensive to buy, much like organic foods are. Most people overeat anyway, seems like they could just eat a little less to compensate for the additional cost of gluten free foods....instead of two slices of gluten free bread, have one slice, for example.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: bigmc on August 12, 2014, 12:45:35 PM
i feel worse reading prime muscles post

than the actual illness itself

you need to edit you content a little

and not jump from one comment i make to diagnosing celiac and shit like that
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Simple Simon on August 12, 2014, 12:53:18 PM
You are right of course. I thought I read that you indicated you were gluten free. Looking back through the posts, I see that I was mistaken and that you did not post that at all. You simply complained about folks getting gluten free products using government assistance. Sorry for the misunderstanding. There was no intent to troll you. Of this you can be sure.

Unless someone is on the dole anyway, I see no reason why they should be given money to pay for a special diet. Because gluten eating free foods are a big craze, they tend to be more expensive to buy, much like organic foods are. Most people overeat anyway, seems like they could just eat a little less to compensate for the additional cost of gluten free foods....instead of two slices of gluten free bread, have one slice, for example.
They shouldnt be given it full fucking stop.
Want Gluten free foods, get off your gluten free arse.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: bigmc on August 12, 2014, 12:55:14 PM
They shouldnt be given it full fucking stop.
Want Gluten free foods, get off your gluten free arse.

i have claimed exactly zero pounds of the state since i left school
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Simple Simon on August 12, 2014, 12:57:44 PM
i have claimed exactly zero pounds of the state since i left school
I left school during the depression claimed a bit between jobs  ;D
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: bigmc on August 12, 2014, 01:05:03 PM
I left school during the depression claimed a bit between jobs  ;D

as long as you werent claiming niche grocery products

then i dont think you are a hypocrit
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Simple Simon on August 12, 2014, 01:11:15 PM
as long as you werent claiming niche grocery products

then i dont think you are a hypocrit
;D
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Bertha Butt on August 13, 2014, 08:59:48 AM
Gluten free pizzas are shit

And this is why. And how to improve it.

Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: bigmc on August 13, 2014, 09:03:57 AM
And this is why. And how to improve it.



thanks joon

il give this a go  :-*
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Mawse on August 13, 2014, 01:32:20 PM
Not watching joon's vid but you can add guar gum or xanthan to it to sticky it up a bit

still shite though
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Bertha Butt on August 13, 2014, 09:56:54 PM
I thought it was finally clear I'm not one of Joon's gimmicks...  ::)

Video: To improve the dough add some xanthan gum to trap air in dough, some baking soda (with yeast already added, for extra air in dough) and almond flour (extra protein to brown the dough during baking).

Haven't tried this dough yet, as we only eat pizza 3-4 times a year.
Title: Re: Food poisoning
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 13, 2014, 10:01:08 PM
I dabbled in some recently, undercooked mexican chorizo. Drunk cooking. Never good.

lol

Been there..... lol