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Title: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: kiwiol on February 09, 2006, 08:15:36 AM
At their very best, both these guys weighed around 260 @ 5'9''. They have similar strengths - Awesome quads and calves, wide rear lat spread etc. and being blocky even. So, at their peak, who's better? I think they both had/have great physiques - what do u bitches think?
(http://www.bodybuilders.com/franc102.jpg)                    (http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26163&d=1071790752)
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: Mars on February 09, 2006, 08:24:28 AM
Both no shredded glutes.
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: sarcasm on February 09, 2006, 08:25:34 AM
Francois by far.
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: kiwiol on February 09, 2006, 08:42:28 AM
Francois by far.
Ok "Sarcasm"  ::) LOL. But seriously, why?
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: Karl Kox on February 09, 2006, 08:45:13 AM
they both look good in those pics
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: sarcasm on February 09, 2006, 08:45:27 AM
Ok "Sarcasm"  ::) LOL. But seriously, why?
thicker, more detailed back, smaller waist, way better arms, better quad sweep, thicker chest.
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: Harry R. M. Pitts on February 09, 2006, 08:52:54 AM
thicker, more detailed back, smaller waist, way better arms, better quad sweep, thicker chest.
agree, way better midsection
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: FLEX N FREAK on February 09, 2006, 08:53:40 AM
I agree Fancois by far
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: sarcasm on February 09, 2006, 08:56:44 AM
remember this, Francois is the only white bb'er besides Yates to ever beat Flex Wheeler at his best, Jay could never come close to doing that.
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: kiwiol on February 09, 2006, 08:57:20 AM
thicker, more detailed back, smaller waist, way better arms, better quad sweep, thicker chest.
At his best, Jay has a really thick back, but the same problem Mike had - not a very conditioned lower back. They both had good Xmas trees though. Also, Jay is way wider and his outer quad sweep probably seems better than mike's due to their taper. Mike had no taper in his quads - they were as wide at the bottom as they were at the top. But he was better conditioned than Jay though - looked liked he was carved outta stone in the 95 Arnold classic (that he won) a la Dorian
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: sarcasm on February 09, 2006, 09:00:32 AM
At his best, Jay has a really thick back, but the same problem Mike had - not a very conditioned lower back. They both had good Xmas trees though. Also, Jay is way wider and his outer quad sweep probably seems better than mike's due to their taper. Mike had no taper in his quads - they were as wide at the bottom as they were at the top. But he was better conditioned than Jay though - looked liked he was carved outta stone in the 95 Arnold classic (that he won) a la Dorian
it's painfully obvious from the pictures above who was better even though the picture of Mike is a fourth of the size.
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: kiwiol on February 09, 2006, 09:01:02 AM
remember this, Francois is the only white bb'er besides Yates to ever beat Flex Wheeler at his best, Jay could never come close to doing that.
Not really, Mike beat flex at the 95 Arnold when flex was actually subpar (compared to his best). In the 97 arnold classic, he beat mike even though mike was close to his all time best
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: kiwiol on February 09, 2006, 09:02:40 AM
it's painfully obvious from the pictures above who was better even though the picture of Mike is a fourth of the size.

I agree. I personally like Mike's physique, though I think Jay looks awesome as well (especially in the off season - bloated face notwithstanding)
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: Mars on February 09, 2006, 09:10:22 AM
That's Art Atwood on the left.
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: BayGBM on February 09, 2006, 10:27:25 AM
Is this thread a joke?  Francois hands down.  Anyone with more than 200 posts can see that!
I like Jay.  He's improved a lot over the years, but both at their peak (btw, I don't think we ever saw Francois at his peak) Mikey wins!  Better back, better lines, better everything!  Except colon, I guess.  :-\
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: doison on February 09, 2006, 10:36:43 AM
"Better back, better lines, better everything!  Except colon, I guess."

You'd like a part of that last sentence, huh....
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: Jr. Yates on February 09, 2006, 10:39:01 AM
Is this thread a joke?  Francois hands down.  Anyone with more than 200 posts can see that!
I like Jay.  He's improved a lot over the years, but both at their peak (btw, I don't think we ever saw Francois at his peak) Mikey wins!  Better back, better lines, better everything!  Except colon, I guess.  :-\
Yes I think so too...even with Jay's improvments Mike could beat him.
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 09, 2006, 10:42:39 AM
Mike would smoke Jay off the stage.
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: michael arvilla on February 09, 2006, 10:44:58 AM
vote for




                     jay
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: BayGBM on February 09, 2006, 10:46:48 AM
"Better back, better lines, better everything!  Except colon, I guess."
You'd like a part of that last sentence, huh....

Mike's colon... gay sex?  Oh, I get it.  Aren't you witty!  Yawn. 

You're not ready or comedy central, yet.  :(
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: Euro-monster on February 09, 2006, 11:12:39 AM
Both no shredded glutes.

Thats the first thing you notice huh?.... ::)
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: ANAL DISCHARGE on February 09, 2006, 11:12:57 AM

Mike was good but his torso too long.  Jay would have edged him with both being at their best.
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: mesmorph78 on February 09, 2006, 01:42:49 PM
mike... no question no competition...
one of my fav bb's
he could have been mr olympia
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: Doublemonk on February 09, 2006, 03:11:25 PM
At his best, Jay has a really thick back, but the same problem Mike had - not a very conditioned lower back.

Mike has one of the sickest lower backs ever IMO. I don't know what you are talking about. He has like two thick steelcords running up his back.
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: Jake_W on February 09, 2006, 03:22:28 PM
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Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: Jake_W on February 09, 2006, 03:23:18 PM
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Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: Jake_W on February 09, 2006, 03:24:36 PM
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Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: Jake_W on February 09, 2006, 03:25:49 PM
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Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 09, 2006, 04:58:39 PM
Francios by a mile. He beats Cutler for the same reasons Ronnie does, more vascular, better shape to his muscles and infinitely more detailed.
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: BayGBM on February 09, 2006, 05:06:13 PM
Francios by a mile. He beats Cutler for the same reasons Ronnie does, more vascular, better shape to his muscles and infinitely more detailed.

The jury has spoken.
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: the choad on February 09, 2006, 05:11:21 PM
The jury has spoken.

And the judge..

You may all be seated.
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 09, 2006, 05:20:21 PM
The jury has spoken.

I'm a felon, I can't be the jury.
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: MRMD2003 on February 09, 2006, 07:08:33 PM
IN HIS PRIME, FRANCOIS WOULD BEAT CUTLER. FRANCOIS HAD THE BETTER GENETICS.  IN MY OPINION, HE LOOKED BETTER THEN YATES. HE HAD BETTER LINES.
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: phyxsius on February 09, 2006, 07:21:15 PM
Regardless.. Both can't win Mr. Olympia
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: kiwiol on February 10, 2006, 03:02:40 AM
Francios by a mile. He beats Cutler for the same reasons Ronnie does, more vascular, better shape to his muscles and infinitely more detailed.

Fair enough, but what if Jay did a CC (Chris cormier - arms crossed overhead) onstage? Surely, that would give him a huge advantage? :D
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: blinky on February 10, 2006, 03:11:52 AM
always been a big fan of Mikes.
he beats jay easily...better lines, shape

anybody heard how mike is doing?
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: hillbilly on February 10, 2006, 05:26:02 AM
(http://anabolic-steroids.blogspot.com/Jay-Cutler-2005.jpg)
look at the big swollen head!
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: NCNPC29 on February 10, 2006, 10:26:24 AM
I'm a Cutler fan but I agree with the majority...Mike hands down... Unreal potential
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: fathead on February 10, 2006, 11:57:37 AM
There's actually 29 people in the NPC in N. CAROLINA?   glad to see y'all are coming up!! 
Title: Re: Mike Francois Vs Jay Cutler
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 10, 2006, 03:19:08 PM
Fair enough, but what if Jay did a CC (Chris cormier - arms crossed overhead) onstage? Surely, that would give him a huge advantage? :D

If Cutler threw down a double-C his head would shrink two hat sizes.