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Title: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: TK on February 14, 2006, 03:58:13 PM
ONLY FOR PRO ATHLETES IN PRO DIVISION!
For Immediate Release
February 14, 2006
 
PRO DIVISION INC ANNOUNCES MEDICAL BENEFITS FOR MEMBERS
 
Pro Division Inc announced today an agreement with McLean Hospital, part of Harvard Medical School, to provide medical benefits for Pro Division Inc members.
McLean Hospital will conduct complete comprehensive yearly physicals for all Pro Division Inc. athletes. This is an unprecedented step in the healthcare of professional bodybuilding athletes.

Wayne S. DeMilia, CEO of Pro Division Inc states, “The main part of any show or competition is the athletes. Without them, there is no event. We must concern ourselves with the health of the athletes to not only insure the longevity of the athlete, but also of the sport.

What precipitated this action by Pro Division Inc is the number of untimely deaths and severe medical problems that has beset the sport the past 24 months.
DeMilia goes on to say, “Three top male athletes have needed kidney transplants over a two year time span. Something has to be done. Heart attacks and bypass surgery become all too common. Athletes under the age of 40 are suffering strokes. Something has to be done and we will be doing it.”

“We are taking a bold step in order to detect problems early, with the desired result being to save lives. We all know that early detection with any medical problem gives the best possible chance to defeat the problem. We are looking to give our athletes that fighting chance.”

“We also know that this is a benefit for all athletes, whether they live in the U.S. or not. We want to do something in the medical area for all athletes that participate in our shows.”

Any questions or comments should be directed to Pro Division Inc via email at prodivisioninc@yahoo.com.
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: 420 Diesel on February 14, 2006, 04:22:08 PM
this is a great step in the right direction.
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: gordiano on February 14, 2006, 04:29:13 PM
Cool.
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: jwb on February 14, 2006, 04:33:18 PM
How does a pro from another country make it to McLean hospital and will Pro division pay for the transport there and back?

Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: sarcasm on February 14, 2006, 04:39:10 PM
not to mention transporting the dialysis machine or taking it with you on the flight.
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: gordiano on February 14, 2006, 04:46:47 PM
not to mention transporting the dialysis machine or taking it with you on the flight.





Lol.

Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: blinky on February 14, 2006, 04:49:07 PM
  If any problems are found in the yearly physical, then who pays for any treatment?           :-\

ya, all it says it that they will give them check-ups. what kind of coverage do they have if a problem is found and needs treatment
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: 240 is Back on February 14, 2006, 04:54:07 PM
awesome move.  This federation might just bring me out of retirement.
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: HRDCOR on February 14, 2006, 05:08:07 PM
They are realy catering for the American market and yet if you look at the pro fields there is more and more pros coming in through other countrys , they need to rethink this other wise it will just end up being a American focused organisastion , thus cutting the chances of getting all the good guys from overseas on- board, why would a guy from say Germany jion them if all the bennifts they proclaim do not apply to them.
The world just isnt the USA ya know !!!
Another question; how are they going to determine pro status? when they have no qualifying compettitions under this umbrella, cause you know the IFBB are going to say if you go with these guys you are not with us , and this sentiment will flow down to the amatures at national level as well , world wide
as well !!
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: 240 is Back on February 14, 2006, 05:19:37 PM
They are realy catering for the American market and yet if you look at the pro fields there is more and more pros coming in through other countrys , they need to rething this other wise it will just end up being a American focused organisastion , thus cutting the chances of getting all the good guys from overseas on- board, why would a guy from say Germany jion them if all the bennifts they proclaim do not apply to them.
The world just isnt the USA ya know !!!
Another question; how are they going to determine pro status? when they have no qualifying compettitions under this umbrella, cause you know the IFBB are going to say if you go with these guys you are not with us , and this sentiment will flow down to the amatures at national level as well , world wide
as well !!

Perhaps if you choose to use another country's medical care they can allot X amount of dollars for your treatment?

In case you hadn't noticed, many of the cats from overseas have the Giant Euro bellies ala Federov.
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: Cool Black Clyde on February 14, 2006, 05:25:45 PM
Yearly physicals?  Who pays for them?  Why are they only at McLean Hospital?  They all should be getting physicals, but that's a long way from the "medical benefits" of this thread's title.  What they need is insurance.  Chicherillo says there is an IFBB athlete's group plan now.  Will the Pro Division have anything like that?
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: body88 on February 14, 2006, 06:33:41 PM
Yearly physicals?  Who pays for them?  Why are they only at McLean Hospital?  They all should be getting physicals, but that's a long way from the "medical benefits" of this thread's title.  What they need is insurance.  Chicherillo says there is an IFBB athlete's group plan now.  Will the Pro Division have anything like that?


why you bitching about  progress

Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: blinky on February 14, 2006, 06:38:02 PM
why you bitching about  progress

i dont think hes bitching. hes just saying that getting a check up isnt exactly medical benefits like they are calling it.

true medical benefits would be paying for these check ups plus coverage for any medical problems they have...which they did not say they would do........yet
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: Militia-Men on February 14, 2006, 08:04:57 PM
Will this "insurance" cover any problems caused by steroid or other drugs used that require treatment, as well as covering treatment for a pre-existing condition cause by years of drug use?
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: 240 is Back on February 14, 2006, 08:09:02 PM
Will this "insurance" cover any problems caused by steroid or other drugs used that require treatment, as well as covering treatment for a pre-existing condition cause by years of drug use?

This insurance for Pro BBers will only cover accidents/illnesses that occur in the following locations:

1) Church
2) Libraries
3) Cars that are not leased or borrowed

The projected budget for year one is $0.
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: body88 on February 14, 2006, 08:40:51 PM
it's not progress.

youre right nothing is much better than this!

Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: body88 on February 14, 2006, 08:41:49 PM
i dont think hes bitching. hes just saying that getting a check up isnt exactly medical benefits like they are calling it.
true medical benefits would be paying for these check ups plus coverage for any medical problems they have...which they did not say they would do........yet

Bottom line it is a step in the right direction and better than nothing

thats it what i was trying to say
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: Disgusted on February 14, 2006, 08:55:01 PM
ya, all it says it that they will give them check-ups. what kind of coverage do they have if a problem is found and needs treatment

First of all, no insurance company on the planet is going to cover anyone who needs treament from self induced drug abuse. At least now these guys will know if something is starting to go wrong and hopefully they will be smart enough to stop!!!!!!  As far as I know these comprehensive tests are free to all in the new org. And, I find it odd how all of the sudden the IFBB is talking insurance.  ::) Not gonna happen guys, ever.
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: Rimbaud on February 14, 2006, 09:15:30 PM
It's a nice idea but (as it's been said before) what insurance company would cover these guys? I can only imagine what the premiums would be.
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: 240 is Back on February 14, 2006, 09:17:36 PM
It's a nice idea but (as it's been said before) what insurance company would cover these guys? I can only imagine what the premiums would be.

I'd like to start an insurance company. I'll call it 300insurance.com

Just for these new pro division bbing fellas.

Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: The Surgeon on February 14, 2006, 10:04:38 PM
What a total joke...

Most pro bodybuilders could careless about their health, or what a doctor tells them they should or shouldn't do...

Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: 240 is Back on February 14, 2006, 10:08:46 PM
What a total joke...
Most pro bodybuilders could careless about their health, or what a doctor tells them they should or shouldn't do...

Welcome aboard, Dr Navarro.

You spelled "Board" wrong in "Boared Certified".



Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: jwb on February 15, 2006, 12:12:51 AM
Are gyno operations covered and paid for?  ;)

The big questions should be...

1. Why would a bodybuilder bother to enter one of these shows since the prize money is so low and once you do you can't guest pose at any NPC event ever again or sell pictures at an ifbb event.

2. Why would a fan bother to buy a ticket to one of these events when there are no contracted athletes definitely appearing?

3. Why would a supplement company bother to sponsor either a show or an athlete for the same reason?
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: Cool Black Clyde on February 15, 2006, 12:14:45 AM
You can get a comprehensive blood test for less than $50.  It will sure take a lot more than that for guys to get to Belmont, Mass to get tested at McLean (even assuming all testing costs are covered).  I don't get the economics of this at all.  Who lives close enough?  If Demillia really cares, why not just reimburse the costs of guys to get tested in their local areas?  By the way, it took me a 5 second google search to find out McLean is a psychiatric hospital.  That seems appropriate.
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: kmhphoto on February 15, 2006, 01:15:09 AM
http://www.mclean.harvard.edu/

A quick call to them should establish that one of their patients is suffering delusion of grandeur.
Anyone who considers this seriously would benefit from a visit to them.
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: NPCOK on February 15, 2006, 05:22:37 AM
Welcome aboard, Dr Navarro.
You spelled "Board" wrong in "Boared Certified".

lol
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: NPCOK on February 15, 2006, 05:27:18 AM
It sounds like a step in the right direction. If anything maybe these things will push the IFBB to do more for the athletes. If weider sold his magazine empire for over 350 million then there is obviously enough money in the sport to take care of the athletes.
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: Adam Empire on February 15, 2006, 11:38:38 AM
First of all, no insurance company on the planet is going to cover anyone who needs treament from self induced drug abuse. At least now these guys will know if something is starting to go wrong and hopefully they will be smart enough to stop!!!!!!  As far as I know these comprehensive tests are free to all in the new org. And, I find it odd how all of the sudden the IFBB is talking insurance.  ::) Not gonna happen guys, ever.

I agree that this is a good step.  Just think of the BBers that have a better life (or are still living) because they listened to a doctor and quit the sport - like Mike Morris for example.  This will give these guys the full exam - and whether they choose to listen to advise is another issue.

Now that more BBers are having health probs, it's good to see that they can at least get some yearly check-up at a minimum. 

It's not like the IFBB has EVER done this - hell, Flex magazine prints an article where we can send donations to Mike Matazzaro (sp?).  Maybe they could help him out?  Nope.  You help sell their magazines when they are healthy, then they sell more when they report the health probs...
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: bb doc on February 15, 2006, 12:16:17 PM
http://www.mclean.harvard.edu/

" McLean Hospital is a comprehensive healthcare system committed to providing easy access to superior quality, cost-effective mental health services"

This is a PSYCHIATRIC hospital.

Hmm, maybe this is better actually.  Psych hospitals are good at treating substance abuse disorders.
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: lonewolf on February 15, 2006, 01:10:52 PM
Hey Disgusted,
I'm beginning to think you're the only one out there who is thinking
rationally. Do these guys really think anyone is going to pay for self
induced illness and abuse?
At least if the Pros know something is wrong they can seek help.
Jesus , what a bunch of whining assholes!
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: Disgusted on February 15, 2006, 01:39:36 PM
Hey Disgusted,
I'm beginning to think you're the only one out there who is thinking
rationally. Do these guys really think anyone is going to pay for self
induced illness and abuse?
At least if the Pros know something is wrong they can seek help.
Jesus , what a bunch of whining assholes!

Thanks. People need to be realistic. This is a first step in the right direction. If Don Youngblood and Flex knew ahead of time they were ill then "MAYBE" they could have done things differently.
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: jwb on February 15, 2006, 03:52:15 PM
Thanks. People need to be realistic. This is a first step in the right direction. If Don Youngblood and Flex knew ahead of time they were ill then "MAYBE" they could have done things differently.
For fuck's sake how hard is it to go to your doc and get a checkup?

Do bodybuilders really need to have their hand held that much? They are adults aren't they?

This announcement means nothing since what bodybuilders are going to bother travelling all the way to this ONE hospital to get checked out for free when the cost of travelling there will outweight the cost of the consultation.

Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: lonewolf on February 15, 2006, 06:01:16 PM
Yo JWB,
Read carefullly the reply by lonewolf. The last sentence was meant for you.
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: jwb on February 15, 2006, 06:28:39 PM
Yo JWB,
Read carefullly the reply by lonewolf. The last sentence was meant for you.
Sticks and stones wolfie...

Wheeler KNEW he was sick a long time ago and continued competing and taking bodybuilding drugs.

Youngblood was a diabetic from what I heard so he knew his time would come before too long at his age plus that guy was RICH. I doubt he didn't have good doctors and health cover through his company.

The "Pro Division" needs to be questioned by people BEFORE any poor bodybuilders throw away their careers on a few internet press releases and a yahoo email contact and get blacklisted from the IFBB.

It took someone 30 seconds to find out this hospital doesn't even do physicals so how seriously are we to take the pro division?

I'm not for the IFBB at all... but at least an athlete knows from the get go that they are fuckers and that they better take care of number 1 and they don't try to hide it...

The pro division is shaping up to be the federation of empty promises so far...
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: Disgusted on February 16, 2006, 12:35:06 PM
Sticks and stones wolfie...
Wheeler KNEW he was sick a long time ago and continued competing and taking bodybuilding drugs.
Youngblood was a diabetic from what I heard so he knew his time would come before too long at his age plus that guy was RICH. I doubt he didn't have good doctors and health cover through his company.
The "Pro Division" needs to be questioned by people BEFORE any poor bodybuilders throw away their careers on a few internet press releases and a yahoo email contact and get blacklisted from the IFBB.
It took someone 30 seconds to find out this hospital doesn't even do physicals so how seriously are we to take the pro division?
I'm not for the IFBB at all... but at least an athlete knows from the get go that they are fuckers and that they better take care of number 1 and they don't try to hide it...
The pro division is shaping up to be the federation of empty promises so far...

So basically you're an idiot.
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: jwb on February 16, 2006, 02:41:14 PM
So basically you're an idiot.
Keep the insults coming dude it just makes your support of this federation look even more credible... ;)
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: Disgusted on February 16, 2006, 02:49:02 PM
Keep the insults coming dude it just makes your support of this federation look even more credible... ;)
I didn't realize the new organization needed me to  look credible. I feel more important now.  ::) Gee thanks
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: HRDCOR on February 16, 2006, 02:51:49 PM
I wonder as a group it wouldnt be worth while investicating a group buy/discount system from the likes of mexivet, oregan etc , alot of unions have simmilar programmes you know !!
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: jwb on February 16, 2006, 04:15:17 PM
I didn't realize the new organization needed me to  look credible. I feel more important now.  ::) Gee thanks
I was talking about the credibilty of your support for them not their credibilty...  read it again
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: Disgusted on February 16, 2006, 04:20:10 PM
I was talking about the credibilty of your support for them not their credibilty...  read it again

I know and I also knew that you would clarify me on it. Your so predictable.  ::) Biggest shit talker on here.
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: jwb on February 16, 2006, 04:51:19 PM
You come on here saying you're in the know regarding pro division and that wayne has all the bases covered and that Ronnie and Jay aren't needed since they are over the hill etc etc...

Unfortunately all their press releases have done is make you look like a fool plain and simple.

I'll say it again I hope it all pans out but we are entitled to question every detail about it and THEY need to prove to US the public that they are for real if they want our money in ticket sales not the other way around...
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: lonewolf on February 16, 2006, 05:26:25 PM
JWB, it is becoming clearer that someone out there has you on their payroll.
Eirher that or you are terribly pessimistic about anything and everything.
Someone must have done something very bad to you in your childhood.
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: jwb on February 16, 2006, 06:05:04 PM
JWB, it is becoming clearer that someone out there has you on their payroll.
Eirher that or you are terribly pessimistic about anything and everything.
Someone must have done something very bad to you in your childhood.
I'll repeat... I'm NOT a fervent supporter if the IFBB and I never follow ANYTHING blindly no matter how good it sounds.

There is a new federation that wants my money in ticket sales.

I wanna know the ins and outs, since they are pitching their business to me for my potential custom, before I commit any more time or resources to them.

With the IFBB I KNOW they're a bunch of girls already which I take in to account when I deal with them in regards to my support of the sport.
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: Disgusted on February 16, 2006, 06:53:21 PM
JWB, it is becoming clearer that someone out there has you on their payroll.
Eirher that or you are terribly pessimistic about anything and everything.
Someone must have done something very bad to you in your childhood.


Haha I think you're right. Funny how every time there is an announcement he jumps on here and throws out his negative BS. He's a clown, but he is kinda entertaining.  ;D
Title: Re: Pro Division Press Release #3 - Medical Benefits for members
Post by: abz on February 28, 2006, 02:10:46 PM

So if you become a pro, then you get a free checkup? Interesting?