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Are you libtards for amnesty of the illegals here?
for worker permits, voting rights, social benefits?
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Are you libtards for amnesty of the illegals here?
for worker permits, voting rights, social benefits?
I would like EVERY getbigger to get on record with their position, not just the libiots.
Because IF/WHEN Romney's prediction comes true,
Because IF/WHEN Jeb's Act of Love comes to fruition,
Because IF/WHEN Boehnner's "We have to do something!"happens,
We're going to have a lot of repubs pretending they support it all along, anyway.
SO I think people from BOTH parties should get on record. In the last 2 weeks, we've had two 'repubs' on getbig tell us they support amnesty already. Not SoulCrusher, not headhunter.
(for the record, whenever i land on the political spectrum, I see illegals as LAWBREAKERS that break the law every day, they should be fined/deported/etc, immediately).
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I am anti amnesty.
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Not only no, but hell no. There is no benefit for the United States, no practical "need" driving this issue. We already have enough ungrateful leeches in this country that don't want to work, learn the language or assimilate into our culture.
*No amnesty
*Secure the borders
*Deport people who are here illegally
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Amnesty for the illegals is a travesty, more has been done to destroy the fabric of this country in the last 6 years than the past 66 years
The lasting affect of the last six years will be the lib judges that were nominated and ratified, they will hurt America for possibly decades
States rights are dying a quick death in America, it will work it's way down to individual rights eventually
People don't realize that the REAL DAMAGE to a country comes through the appointing and ratifying of liberal/ communist/ socialist judges who are allowed to basically make law instead of interpret it
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Amnesty for the illegals is a travesty, more has been done to destroy the fabric of this country in the last 6 years than the past 66 years
The lasting affect of the last six years will be the lib judges that were nominated and ratified, they will hurt America for possibly decades
States rights are dying a quick death in America, it will work it's way down to individual rights eventually
People don't realize that the REAL DAMAGE to a country comes through the appointing and ratifying of liberal/ communist/ socialist judges who are allowed to basically make law instead of interpret it
Bingo.
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we must remember two things:
1) Being here, as an "undocumented worker" or "illegal alien", you are committing a CRIME each day.
2) It is not a victimless crime - they wear out the roads, use public resources, clog jails and hospital rooms, and dozens of other PUBLIC items that they use without paying taxes. They raise insurance rates because they leave accidents and ERs and legal americans actually have to pay for it.
And of course, the libs who support it, feel we should coddle everyone.
Also, it should be noted, the repubs who support it are a rare group - statistically small, they are RINOs that just consider it inevitable. They don't want to talk about it being a crime, they just say "shrug, everyone does it, who can stop them, we're powerless". I could argue that kind of wimpiness is NOT reagan republican behavior.
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we must remember two things:
1) Being here, as an "undocumented worker" or "illegal alien", you are committing a CRIME each day.
2) It is not a victimless crime - they wear out the roads, use public resources, clog jails and hospital rooms, and dozens of other PUBLIC items that they use without paying taxes. They raise insurance rates because they leave accidents and ERs and legal americans actually have to pay for it.
And of course, the libs who support it, feel we should coddle everyone.
Also, it should be noted, the repubs who support it are a rare group - statistically small, they are RINOs that just consider it inevitable. They don't want to talk about it being a crime, they just say "shrug, everyone does it, who can stop them, we're powerless". I could argue that kind of wimpiness is NOT reagan republican behavior.
If you make them pay taxes, then its no longer an issue. Give them amnesty and make them pay taxes......or don't and they'll still use our resources for free and we'll spend money deporting them that we don't have only for them to return again.
Lets welcome our Mexican brothers and sister and learn to speak Spanish.
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If you make them pay taxes, then its no longer an issue. Give them amnesty and make them pay taxes......or don't and they'll still use our resources for free and we'll spend money deporting them that we don't have only for them to return again.
Lets welcome our Mexican brothers and sister and learn to speak Spanish.
(http://i.imgur.com/Xs0yStH.jpg)
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If you make them pay taxes, then its no longer an issue. Give them amnesty and make them pay taxes......or don't and they'll still use our resources for free and we'll spend money deporting them that we don't have only for them to return again.
Lets welcome our Mexican brothers and sister and learn to speak Spanish.
Obama could put you back into chains and you would love it. ;)
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Logically, the first step is to secure the border...it makes no sense to attempt any type of reform or mass deportation until you close the fucking door. Hell, we need to close the border for our own safety. The rest of the issue is very problematic. You can require all kinds of documentation to stay here...you can assess stiff penalties for employers who hire undocumented workers...you can round them all up and send them all home...you can levy huge fines and hope they self deport...all of those solutions hve an appeal. The problem is that all of them will require a larger bureaucracy than the one that is in place will greater powers of enforcement. Even sealing the border will require a larger police/military presence than what we have now. Are people ready to give government even more authority and resources?
Personally...I don't think the country is ever going to agree to mass deportation. It just seems too Nazi... You could do a path to citizenship that is onerous enough to cause a level of mass self- deportation, people would probably find that more palatable.
Ultimately, we need to encourage...maybe even force to whatever extent we can...political and economic reforms in Mexico and Central America. If the countries they were leaving weren't such shitholes, maybe more of them would just stay home.
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Ultimately, we need to encourage...maybe even force to whatever extent we can...political and economic reforms in Mexico and Central America. If the countries they were leaving weren't such shitholes, maybe more of them would just stay home.
Yeah good luck with that, Mexican politicians make are crooked bastards look like amateur's. Fuck the illegals, if they had a backbone among them they would fix the shit holes they come from instead of running across the border.
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I don't understand how illegals are allowed to live here.
If my neighbors were illegal, and I knew it, I'd be calling in some 'anonymous tips' on drug dealing, guns going off, etc, until their asses got deported.
I cannot imagine knowing your neighbors are unaccountable, untraceable, and can rob/kill you at anytime and go completely dark/off the grid, and nobody will know, because they're using fake BC (thanks obama!) or fake SS# to work/rent.
Call them in, get them kicked the fck out. Everyone in america does this, and the problem sure gets smaller.
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I don't understand how illegals are allowed to live here.
If my neighbors were illegal, and I knew it, I'd be calling in some 'anonymous tips' on drug dealing, guns going off, etc, until their asses got deported.
I cannot imagine knowing your neighbors are unaccountable, untraceable, and can rob/kill you at anytime and go completely dark/off the grid, and nobody will know, because they're using fake BC (thanks obama!) or fake SS# to work/rent.
Call them in, get them kicked the fck out. Everyone in america does this, and the problem sure gets smaller.
Well....because our government will not deport them. They are refusing to enforce the law. Everyone can report illegals all the want but nothing is going to happen to them. Even though Obama is telling you the opposite, in reality deportations have slowed to a crawl under his watch. More of his lies.
Also, how would you "know" that your neighbors are illegal? Some Mexicans live near by. Should I knock on the door and demand to see their papers? lol.
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Well....because our government will not deport them. They are refusing to enforce the law. Everyone can report illegals all the want but nothing is going to happen to them. Even though Obama is telling you the opposite, in reality deportations have slowed to a crawl under his watch. More of his lies.
Also, how would you "know" that your neighbors are illegal? Some Mexicans live near by. Should I knock on the door and demand to see their papers? lol.
Rob is THATt guy. He openly boasts about how hed snitch people out, but then brags about things like brandishing his firearm to scare people away, etc.
Dude is highly confused. He needs to learn gow to let the authorities do there work and not play Zimmerman, who he always claims to despise.
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Rob is THATt guy. He openly boasts about how hed snitch people out, but then brags about things like brandishing his firearm to scare people away, etc.
Dude is highly confused. He needs to learn gow to let the authorities do there work and not play Zimmerman, who he always claims to despise.
I stand my yard, not a yard a mile away. I take license plate # and let police handle it. I run FROM gun battles, never into them. I think out of all the getbiggers here, I'd have maybe the most firepower on me, and I"d take the biggest ass whopping before drawing my gun.
When did I "brandish" my gun? I was boxed in by an aggressive car ten years back - they came out and at me. I kept gun below window level, maintained eyes on hands, and mouthed no - they jumped back in car and drove away. Where did I 'brandish" it? You don't show it until it's time to empty it.
Do you carry a gun, shockwave?
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I stand my yard, not a yard a mile away. I take license plate # and let police handle it. I run FROM gun battles, never into them. I think out of all the getbiggers here, I'd have maybe the most firepower on me, and I"d take the biggest ass whopping before drawing my gun.
When did I "brandish" my gun? I was boxed in by an aggressive car ten years back - they came out and at me. I kept gun below window level, maintained eyes on hands, and mouthed no - they jumped back in car and drove away. Where did I 'brandish" it? You don't show it until it's time to empty it.
Do you carry a gun, shockwave?
does your yard include the trailer park you and your armed vigilantes patroled?
LMFAO youre the boards biggest hypocrite and pussy, congrats
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I stand my yard, not a yard a mile away. I take license plate # and let police handle it. I run FROM gun battles, never into them. I think out of all the getbiggers here, I'd have maybe the most firepower on me, and I"d take the biggest ass whopping before drawing my gun.
When did I "brandish" my gun? I was boxed in by an aggressive car ten years back - they came out and at me. I kept gun below window level, maintained eyes on hands, and mouthed no - they jumped back in car and drove away. Where did I 'brandish" it? You don't show it until it's time to empty it.
Do you carry a gun, shockwave?
Rob, youve posted several times about patrolling your trailer oark or lifting your shirt to show randoms your packing.
Many people remember it.
For as much as you despise Zman you sure made a lot of posts where you sound like a wannabe vigilante.
Anyway, I was a Marine, and yes, i carry a 1911. And NO ONE knows. Thats part of being a quite professional. I dont brag about it, i dont tell anyone, and i certainly dont brag on getbig how im ready to rock at a moments notice.
I dont think you are IRL how you portray yourself on here. I really hope its just more 240 trolling. But make no mistake, the way act on here comes across as a joke to professionals shooters.
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Rob, youve posted several times about patrolling your trailer oark or lifting your shirt to show randoms your packing.
Many people remember it.
For as much as you despise Zman you sure made a lot of posts where you sound like a wannabe vigilante.
Anyway, I was a Marine, and yes, i carry a 1911. And NO ONE knows. Thats part of being a quite professional. I dont brag about it, i dont tell anyone, and i certainly dont brag on getbig how im ready to rock at a moments notice.
I dont think you are IRL how you portray yourself on here. I really hope its just more 240 trolling. But make no mistake, the way act on here comes across as a joke to professionals shooters.
There was a group of maybe a dozen people, all retired except me and my brother. They owned the land in this trailer park. It was a very small section, maybe a few dozen trailers. Next section over was crime and drugs and hookers. We were determined to keep that shit off our streets.
When one of those cars 'wandered' into our dead end area, and didn't live there, we would walk to our streets (which were 1 land paved, a few feet from our doors. We'd ask the driver who he's looking for, and take down plates of anyone that didn't live there or have any legit reason to be in this closed area. With that many retirees, we had maybe 15 cars a DAY drive those roads. Some honda dropping bass sure had no destination there.
NEVER in a million fcking years would I RUN two blocks alone THRU the dark, with a gun, to have it out with someone i believed to be on drugs with something in his waistband. THat's idiocy, lunacy. We would have 6 or 10 of us come out at once to look at the new person - and take down plates. Completely different.
Zimm chased a kid. A mile from his house. The kid has business on that street, zimm (packing heat thus nullifying neighborhood watch charter) did not.
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There was a group of maybe a dozen people, all retired except me and my brother. They owned the land in this trailer park. It was a very small section, maybe a few dozen trailers. Next section over was crime and drugs and hookers. We were determined to keep that shit off our streets.
When one of those cars 'wandered' into our dead end area, and didn't live there, we would walk to our streets (which were 1 land paved, a few feet from our doors. We'd ask the driver who he's looking for, and take down plates of anyone that didn't live there or have any legit reason to be in this closed area. With that many retirees, we had maybe 15 cars a DAY drive those roads. Some honda dropping bass sure had no destination there.
NEVER in a million fcking years would I RUN two blocks alone THRU the dark, with a gun, to have it out with someone i believed to be on drugs with something in his waistband. THat's idiocy, lunacy. We would have 6 or 10 of us come out at once to look at the new person - and take down plates. Completely different.
Zimm chased a kid. A mile from his house. The kid has business on that street, zimm (packing heat thus nullifying neighborhood watch charter) did not.
And yet ypure both armed, aggressive guys trying to make sure randoms know theyre dont belong in your neighborhood.
Thats my point. You justify your action, focus on the little details, and refuse to see that the bigger picture (your mindsets) are exactly the same.
Had the encounters gone a little different for you, you too could have been in Zimmermans shoes becauese you felt it was necessary to play the cop and let potential thieves know theyre not welcome in your neighborhood.
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And yet ypure both armed, aggressive guys trying to make sure randoms know theyre dont belong in your neighborhood.
Thats my point. You justify your action, focus on the little details, and refuse to see that the bigger picture (your mindsets) are exactly the same.
Had the encounters gone a little different for you, you too could have been in Zimmermans shoes becauese you felt it was necessary to play the cop and let potential thieves know theyre not welcome in your neighborhood.
hahah 240's dumb ass is zimmerman shock
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And yet ypure both armed, aggressive guys trying to make sure randoms know theyre dont belong in your neighborhood.
Thats my point. You justify your action, focus on the little details, and refuse to see that the bigger picture (your mindsets) are exactly the same.
Had the encounters gone a little different for you, you too could have been in Zimmermans shoes becauese you felt it was necessary to play the cop and let potential thieves know theyre not welcome in your neighborhood.
We watched. We didn't chase. We stood in our own front yards and wrote down plates and asked if they needed help.
Now, had we CHASED the person 2 blocks, a mile from our houses, then we have no business doing that.
And no, don't assumed I could have had to "felt it was necessary to play the cop and let potential thieves know theyre not welcome" - I think from all my posts here, it's very clear I MUCH prefer to let the cops play the cop role.
if you don't see the diff in standing on your own lawn watching shady fkers... and running 2 blocks, to a point 1 mile from your home to chase a person you believed armed and high, lol, I don't konw what to say.
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hahah 240's dumb ass is zimmerman shock
lol classic "toney posts to agree and throw profanity at 240" LOL
seriously, I guard my fcking lawn. Zimm chased a dude he thought was armed and high, a mile from his lawn.
I'm no vigilante. You fck with me, it's bad fast. You fck with someone else, I'm calling 911, and only intervening if its justifiable/forcible felony. I dont shoot for breaking into a car. I do shoot if it's only to protect a life.
Too many people want to shoot. Not me.
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We watched. We didn't chase. We stood in our own front yards and wrote down plates and asked if they needed help.
Now, had we CHASED the person 2 blocks, a mile from our houses, then we have no business doing that.
And no, don't assumed I could have had to "felt it was necessary to play the cop and let potential thieves know theyre not welcome" - I think from all my posts here, it's very clear I MUCH prefer to let the cops play the cop role.
if you don't see the diff in standing on your own lawn watching shady fkers... and running 2 blocks, to a point 1 mile from your home to chase a person you believed armed and high, lol, I don't konw what to say.
like i said, youre going to focus on the small details, and refuse to look at the fact that the mindset is the same, and you were only one bad decision under stress from being in the same situation.
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like i said, youre going to focus on the small details, and refuse to look at the fact that the mindset is the same, and you were only one bad decision under stress from being in the same situation.
I'd say it was a series of bad decisions that led zimmerman to that mess.
He decided to follow a teenager he suggested was on drugs and possibly armed.
He decided to get out of his truck.
He decided to give chase. On foot. into the dark.
That's 3 pretty big ones. Employ common sense in any of those, and voila, no incident. He grabs a gun, jumps out of truck and chases a kid he thinks is armed and on drugs. And he's further from his home, with every step of that chase. "He's getting away". LOL.
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like i said, youre going to focus on the small details, and refuse to look at the fact that the mindset is the same, and you were only one bad decision under stress from being in the same situation.