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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: bentone on November 22, 2014, 10:33:20 AM
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This past year five weeks out from a competition I took a shot of a tren blend and within 48 hours had terrible pitting edema. A few hours after the shot I knew something was wrong as the injection site was irritated but it wasn't an infection. Well as it turns out my source at the time went scammer and God only knows what I actually pinned. Whatever was in it damaged one of my kidneys and scarred it giving me secondary FSGS. I put this out there as a cautionary tale. Know your source and get lab work regularly. At the time this happened I had no insurance and wasn't getting blood work and perhaps if I had the damage to my kidney could have been avoided.
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owned.
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This past year five weeks out from a competition I took a shot of a tren blend and within 48 hours had terrible pitting edema. A few hours after the shot I knew something was wrong as the injection site was irritated but it wasn't an infection. Well as it turns out my source at the time went scammer and God only knows what I actually pinned. Whatever was in it damaged one of my kidneys and scarred it giving me secondary FSGS. I put this out there as a cautionary tale. Know your source and get lab work regularly. At the time this happened I had no insurance and wasn't getting blood work and perhaps if I had the damage to my kidney could have been avoided.
Perhaps you should have never used in the first place. :-\
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All good points. Just wanted to put this out there as a cautionary tale.
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dont worry, we all die of something one day anyway, some just die sooner than others.
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Über an this is indeed true. I have for all but this past year gotten blood work done every 90 days and have never had a health issue. The gear isn't what caused this but rather something in the gear like a heavy metal that caused this. I have said before that the quality of gear these days is questionable at best and this proves it.
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What lab, what brand?
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Chinese have been poisoning American's for decades. Can't even fathom what kind of fillers are in Chinese powders.
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Are we talking fact or fiction regarding this cautionary tale. What would damage your kidneys from single shot? They must have put rat poison in it or something similar.
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Take a look at the face of Lee Priest. Talk about unhealthy edema and very high blood pressure...
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Perhaps you should have never used in the first place. :-\
no one likes a quitter
now go make me some cookies
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What lab, what brand?
Yes, name some fucking names!
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Yes, name some fucking names!
If he does not expose the lab, then he is an accessory after the fact.
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For the record up until my first shot of this brand of gear, which I will go grab the name and post in a moment I had no edema or symptoms whatsoever. I have always taken mild cycles and have very low blood pressure, low cholesterol, et . In fact I had dozens of blood panels which essentially said I am in perfect health except I had mild proteinuria. I asked for a kidney biopsy as I knew something had to be wrong and the biopsy found a very tiny patch of scar tissue about the size of a millimeter. Pathology came back with secondary fsgs. My endocrinologist and nephrologist all believe it isn't the hormones that caused this but some sort of poison or pathogen in the gear that caused this. So I am not the stereotypical Lee Priest scenario walking around bloated and red faced. I have always been careful with my use until this instance. Pitting edema is very different from the typed edema most people think of. I went to bed one night shredded and woke up so swollen I could fit my feet in my shoes and edema so bad in my lower legs that I could press on my shin and have an indentation nearly a 1/2 inch deep.
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:-X
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Chinese have been poisoning American's for decades. Can't even fathom what kind of fillers are in Chinese powders.
Yep, it's a secret plot to take over America. First they poison the steroid supply, disabling the strong ones....
Next thing you know, we're wearing flip flops, and praying to a fat man.
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Yep, it's a secret plot to take over America. First they poison the steroid supply, disabling the strong ones....
Next thing you know, we're wearing flip flops, and praying to a fat man.
No they've been poisoning for decades now. Children's toy's and knock off meds/vitamins are the number one cause of concern. Also Chinese food. Have a lab test a sample of Chinese powder and see what you come up with. I'd bet the house that lead content will be thru the roof...
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Are we talking fact or fiction regarding this cautionary tale. What would damage your kidneys from single shot? They must have put rat poison in it or something similar.
gh15 had stated multiple times that there was rat poison in some vials. I never believed him.
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Name the brand dude.
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No they've been poisoning for decades now. Children's toy's and knock off meds/vitamins are the number one cause of concern. Also Chinese food. Have a lab test a sample of Chinese powder and see what you come up with. I'd bet the house that lead content will be thru the roof...
A 'friend' had some tren powder from an unknown supplier tested back in ORD when the good suppliers went down for a while, and found the powder to contain weed killer, amphetamines, DMSO and TCA (chemical peel acid). On the plus side it was about 95% tren and a water wash dissolved most of the junk.
On the negative side, it was so badly made that the ester literally fell off after a couple of months in the bag and it became impossible to dissolve in anything less than pure BA
My friend was a bit annoyed at having to throw out a rather large amount of powder and obviously the fly-by-night Chinaman refused to reply to his angry emails
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It's more probable that it was the cumulative damage rather than just a shot or two of one particular gear. None of us should think for a moment that any of the shit we're using is perfectly safe. Far from it.
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If he does not expose the lab, then he is an accessory after the fact.
And the thread is pointless.
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you deserve this when you put shit into your body
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No they've been poisoning for decades now. Children's toy's and knock off meds/vitamins are the number one cause of concern. Also Chinese food. Have a lab test a sample of Chinese powder and see what you come up with. I'd bet the house that lead content will be thru the roof...
They make good hyge Gh
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lol Jesus, you guys. No one's putting fucking rat poison in anything. Heavy metals and contaminants are in there because the APIs are poor along with poor handling of raws. No one's going to buy a box of rat poison and cook it down with this shit.
Bad gear exists because corners are cut. No one takes the additional time to add bad stuff to it. Stop being paranoid parrots.
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you deserve this when you put shit into your body
And if you drink vodka and you go blind or die because it contained methanol wouldn't that be the same?
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I was clean for 4 years before deciding to get back on stage so this is not from cumulative damage. I ran a 16 weeks cycle, took 6 weeks off then ran my second cycle and at 5 weeks out added a tren mix and the damage was done after one shot. The lab is no longer around so no use in name dropping. One thing I can tell you all is that if your urine is foamy at any point you should get your kidney function looked.
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I was clean for 4 years before deciding to get back on stage so this is not from cumulative damage. I ran a 16 weeks cycle, took 6 weeks off then ran my second cycle and at 5 weeks out added a tren mix and the damage was done after one shot. The lab is no longer around so no use in name dropping. One thing I can tell you all is that if your urine is foamy at any point you should get your kidney function looked.
THE NAME OF THE UGL!
See, if you don't divulge the name, most folks here will just assume that you are full of shit.
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I was clean for 4 years before deciding to get back on stage so this is not from cumulative damage. I ran a 16 weeks cycle, took 6 weeks off then ran my second cycle and at 5 weeks out added a tren mix and the damage was done after one shot. The lab is no longer around so no use in name dropping. One thing I can tell you all is that if your urine is foamy at any point you should get your kidney function looked.
Could still have something like a hepatic adenoma. Doesn't matter if you were off 4 years as you can't reverse a lot of the damage that steroids can sometimes cause, particularly with regards to the kidneys. That's the scary thing.
Also, it's still important to drop the name of the lab. Damn near every lab I've ever used had previous names. They close up shop when reviews get bad or problems occur and spring up overnight with a new lab name. We've all seen it time and time again. Name names, man. And by the way, hope you're doing better. Forgot to mention that. Hope nothing bad happens to anyone here. All we can do is get the occasional check up and pay close attention for anything concerning.
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THE NAME OF THE UGL!
See, if you don't divulge the name, most folks here will just assume that you are full of shit.
This.
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THE NAME OF THE UGL!
See, if you don't divulge the name, most folks here will just assume that you are full of shit.
Which he is........
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I was clean for 4 years before deciding to get back on stage so this is not from cumulative damage. I ran a 16 weeks cycle, took 6 weeks off then ran my second cycle and at 5 weeks out added a tren mix and the damage was done after one shot. The lab is no longer around so no use in name dropping. One thing I can tell you all is that if your urine is foamy at any point you should get your kidney function looked.
Hey homo, why would you start a thread about a bad UGL and not name them? Honestly you are a fucking waste of life. It doesn't matter if they are no longer around. Honestly, you undoubtedly are a bodybuilder, judging by how fucking stupid you are.
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give us the name of the lab, save lives.
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FOS OP furiously googling UGLs to see who a.) went tits-ups recently and b.) offered a cut-mix as described.
This has Joon written all over it. A poorly researched backstory.
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FOS OP furiously googling UGLs to see who a.) went tits-ups recently and b.) offered a cut-mix as described.
This has Joon written all over it. A poorly researched backstory.
For a moment I got really scared, but reading it again now, it's so obvious this was just a troll story. He doesn't seem outraged or scared, just wants to scare people or get attention. :-\
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For a moment I got really scared, but reading it again now, it's so obvious this was just a troll story. He doesn't seem outraged or scared, just wants to scare people or get attention. :-\
There's plenty of abscess horror stories around here to last a lifetime.
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OP should sit down with Vince basile. They could discuss all their BS together.
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Yeah....fuck this guy
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OP should sit down with Vince basile. They could discuss all their BS together.
Agreed!
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(buncha Getbig pin cushions breathing sighs of relief)
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The lab is no longer in business and I can't say more than that. I understand people wanting to know the brand but it was a private source and 2 other people I know had the same reaction I did one of which had to go to the hospital. I have had plenty of bad shots over the years but nothing like this. I only posted this because I never thought FSGS was something I could get. I keep well hydrated and have low blood pressure. There was a study posted a while back about the possibility that gear can cause secondary fsgs and in my case this has proven to be true. You can think this post is BS and that is fine but if you are reading this and wondering how to avoid this I would say to get bloodwork regularly and if you have foamy urine you should get your kidneys checked. Over the years I have seen guys who for one reason or another can't get into condition despite a perfect diet, training and supplement program and chalked it up,to receptors being fried but now I believe there are a decent number of former competitors out there with carrying degrees of kidney damage. Phil Hernon spoke on this a while ago and I dismissed it as sensationalism but now think differently.
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The lab is no longer in business and I can't say more than that. I understand people wanting to know the brand but it was a private source and 2 other people I know had the same reaction I did one of which had to go to the hospital. I have had plenty of bad shots over the years but nothing like this. I only posted this because I never thought FSGS was something I could get. I keep well hydrated and have low blood pressure. There was a study posted a while back about the possibility that gear can cause secondary fsgs and in my case this has proven to be true. You can think this post is BS and that is fine but if you are reading this and wondering how to avoid this I would say to get bloodwork regularly and if you have foamy urine you should get your kidneys checked. Over the years I have seen guys who for one reason or another can't get into condition despite a perfect diet, training and supplement program and chalked it up,to receptors being fried but now I believe there are a decent number of former competitors out there with carrying degrees of kidney damage. Phil Hernon spoke on this a while ago and I dismissed it as sensationalism but now think differently.
Can this guy be banned please?
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The lab is no longer in business and I can't say more than that. I understand people wanting to know the brand but it was a private source and 2 other people I know had the same reaction I did one of which had to go to the hospital. I have had plenty of bad shots over the years but nothing like this. I only posted this because I never thought FSGS was something I could get. I keep well hydrated and have low blood pressure. There was a study posted a while back about the possibility that gear can cause secondary fsgs and in my case this has proven to be true. You can think this post is BS and that is fine but if you are reading this and wondering how to avoid this I would say to get bloodwork regularly and if you have foamy urine you should get your kidneys checked. Over the years I have seen guys who for one reason or another can't get into condition despite a perfect diet, training and supplement program and chalked it up,to receptors being fried but now I believe there are a decent number of former competitors out there with carrying degrees of kidney damage. Phil Hernon spoke on this a while ago and I dismissed it as sensationalism but now think differently.
Bodybuilders with shot kidneys??!! Never heard of it. ::)
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The lab is no longer in business and I can't say more than that. I understand people wanting to know the brand but it was a private source and 2 other people I know had the same reaction I did one of which had to go to the hospital. I have had plenty of bad shots over the years but nothing like this. I only posted this because I never thought FSGS was something I could get. I keep well hydrated and have low blood pressure. There was a study posted a while back about the possibility that gear can cause secondary fsgs and in my case this has proven to be true. You can think this post is BS and that is fine but if you are reading this and wondering how to avoid this I would say to get bloodwork regularly and if you have foamy urine you should get your kidneys checked. Over the years I have seen guys who for one reason or another can't get into condition despite a perfect diet, training and supplement program and chalked it up,to receptors being fried but now I believe there are a decent number of former competitors out there with carrying degrees of kidney damage. Phil Hernon spoke on this a while ago and I dismissed it as sensationalism but now think differently.
Sorry man, but your reason for not saying the name of the "private source" or UGL is bullshit. You could be saving a life by naming names, but you instead are getting squirrelly and secretive.
Also, if it's a "private source", doesn't that mean that you know the chef? The dude that tried to kill you? This story stinks terribly and nobody is going to treat you as anything other than a FOS gimmick until you NAME THE FUCKING UGL.
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Sorry man, but your reason for not saying the name of the "private source" or UGL is bullshit. You could be saving a life by naming names, but you instead are getting squirrelly and secretive.
Also, if it's a "private source", doesn't that mean that you know the chef? The dude that tried to kill you? This story stinks terribly and nobody is going to treat you as anything other than a FOS gimmick until you NAME THE FUCKING UGL.
Yep.
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I heard "bentone" also knew a kid who got razorblades in his candy while trick or treating, and a bro of a bro of his woke up to "welcome to the wonderful world of AIDS" written on the mirror after a shady one night stand.
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I heard "bentone" also knew a kid who got razorblades in his candy while trick or treating, and a bro of a bro of his woke up to "welcome to the wonderful world of AIDS" written on the mirror after a shady one night stand.
Remember that time when OP got a spiked drink from a Russian woman and woke up in a bathtub filled with ice?
And a note pinned to his chest...
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Makes no sense to protect / not name the UGL.
If as he states he knows him, then you should be dealing with this
P O S No-friend.
Man up,. Name & Shame.
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Yep, it's a secret plot to take over America. First they poison the steroid supply, disabling the strong ones....
Next thing you know, we're wearing flip flops, and praying to a fat man.
I guess you don't remember when they sold adulterated milk and baby formula that sickened 300K and killed children. If they would poison their own children do you think they give a damn about a guy posing in a thong all oiled up to music?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal
Remember when creatine was so impure coming out of China that Creapure company from Germany claim to fame that it's pure compared to impurities and even toxic stuff coming out of China? Only buy creatine actually made in the US or Germany.
Think they care about making a pure quality product for an illegal felony drug for sale in the US? They probably mix the stuff with their dirty shoe in a filthy back store before putting it in their counterfeit labeled vials and packaging.
I really believe the majority of steroids being sold is coming out of China. Yes they easily have the capability to copy inserts and packaging to counterfeit. You just don't know what type of crap is in these vials. Maybe it has something to do with why the current champs look soft and bloated unlike the hard density of champs past.
Back in the 70's they were taking steroids sold at an American pharmacy made in American pharmaceutical labs or they were crossing the border into Mexico to get legit steroids. Now good luck with the crap being sold. It is a felony to have steroids so the underground criminal market is working to provide your crap and the cheapest labs are in China. Now if only Walter White would have changed from making meth to steroids we would get a good product.
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Joe Blows juicing with potentially dodgy gear. :-\
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Epic beating around the bush and skirting over the issue of naming names. What a stupid douche.
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The dude who started this thread is full of shit! one shot couldn;t possibly do this kind of damage and like dustin said there is NO RAT POiSON in any UGL gear. Yes UGL gear can contain heavy metals or lead but c'mon if you don;t name the guys name or source handle this is totally pointless!
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I really believe the majority of steroids being sold is coming out of China. Yes they easily have the capability to copy inserts and packaging to counterfeit. You just don't know what type of crap is in these vials. Maybe it has something to do with why the current champs look soft and bloated unlike the hard density of champs past.
lol ::)
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They are making even fake eggs in china.
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As a follow up to this thread the lab that caused my kidney damage is called Trajan Labs. If you have any of this gear toss it in the garbage. It is tainted with heavy metals.
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As a follow up to this thread the lab that caused my kidney damage is called Trajan Labs. If you have any of this gear toss it in the garbage. It is tainted with heavy metals.
REALLY!!! six fucking months later you decide to narc them out! What a fucking tard
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Perhaps you should have never used in the first place. :-\
He wasn't going to write the Iliad anyways
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As a follow up to this thread the lab that caused my kidney damage is called Trajan Labs. If you have any of this gear toss it in the garbage. It is tainted with heavy metals.
so how much time you have?
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you deserve this when you put shit into your body
Screw all those dude with muscle - they should die cause they did drugs. Then when only you are left the ladies won't think you look pathetic !! You dont have to use juice to get in shape lil fella... Maybe your genetics suck - but so what you can still improve.. Hang in there pal - I can't imagine what its like to train and never look any different but I am sure there are things you are good at in life
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Screw all those dude with muscle - they should die cause they did drugs. Then when only you are left the ladies won't think you look pathetic !! You dont have to use juice to get in shape lil fella... Maybe your genetics suck - but so what you can still improve.. Hang in there pal - I can't imagine what its like to train and never look any different but I am sure there are things you are good at in life
Such advice coming from you uncle junior that's a bit rich ::)