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If the remastered never before seen footage of the most controversial bodybuilding contest of all time is finally released., And all the comparison shots from the back shows Dickerson in better shape than Arnold, and all the booing after Arnold is called the winner is evident.
Would you be surprised ? Buy the DVD ?
Would it hurt Arnold's bodybuilding legacy or simply make it more relevant for younger generation that would get to see Arnold in a bodybuilding contest in a more realistic approach than Pumping Iron ?
Woooshhhhhhhh. 2015.
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I took a lot of photos of the 1980 Mr Olympia which was in Sydney. During the finals I was shooting colour slides and got a mate in the row in front of me
to take a video. Would you believe most of that was ruined because he got so excited he started stamping his feet. I haven't looked at it to see if I
recorded the booing at the end. This mate was cheering for Roger Walker who made the finals and thus all the excitement. What a shame
because I was in a great position in the middle of the Concert Hall and we would have had a good view of what happened.
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Controversial only because Arnold shouldn't have been allowed to compete, not because he was undeserving of the title, won fair and square in my opinion... Most controversial? Hardly... Mr Basile himself, if i remember correctly, said that Arnold was booed for a moment, cheered after...
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Booing or not... the video does not lie. Arnold (25lbs lighter than he was previously) was the best bodybuilder on that day.
Get over it.
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Booing or not... the video does not lie. Arnold (25lbs lighter than he was previously) was the best bodybuilder on that day.
Get over it.
True, the video really shows even when Arnold was 80% he was still better than the rest.
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I took a lot of photos of the 1980 Mr Olympia which was in Sydney. During the finals I was shooting colour slides and got a mate in the row in front of me
to take a video. Would you believe most of that was ruined because he got so excited he started stamping his feet. I haven't looked at it to see if I
recorded the booing at the end. This mate was cheering for Roger Walker who made the finals and thus all the excitement. What a shame
because I was in a great position in the middle of the Concert Hall and we would have had a good view of what happened.
You should take a look at the whole footage then ....
with magazines dying, nothing relevant or appealing going on with today's bodybuilding .....
you might have a treasure there.
Wooossshhhh the OAk
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If? If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.
Seriously, it's 2015 and we all need to move on. Arnold won.
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I took a lot of photos of the 1980 Mr Olympia which was in Sydney. During the finals I was shooting colour slides and got a mate in the row in front of me
to take a video. Would you believe most of that was ruined because he got so excited he started stamping his feet. I haven't looked at it to see if I
recorded the booing at the end. This mate was cheering for Roger Walker who made the finals and thus all the excitement. What a shame
because I was in a great position in the middle of the Concert Hall and we would have had a good view of what happened.
lol at "stamp his feet"...Code for jerking off furiously during the thong show :-\
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in another 35 years , NBC will release the 2014 Mr OLYmpia as well
(http://www.flexonline.com/sites/flexonline.com/files/styles/node_image/public/ami-nbc_2.jpg?itok=EsBB8O_g)
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If? If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.
Seriously, it's 2015 and we all need to move on. Arnold won.
I think you're missing the point .... the biggest and better footage of the 1980 contest for some "mysterious" reason never aired...
If is released ,
Well read the questions at beginning of thread
WoooSSHHHHHHHHH
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in another 35 years , NBC will release the 2014 Mr OLYmpia as well
(http://www.flexonline.com/sites/flexonline.com/files/styles/node_image/public/ami-nbc_2.jpg?itok=EsBB8O_g)
Too bad no one really remembers who were the top 6 one week after.
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH Philsulin
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"I think they're booing Arnold" - (Mentzer )
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH H
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Joe - "Don't worry Arnold, I'll make sure that film is destroyed, wont come out of Australia trust me"
Arnold- I'll pretend like I'm too busy enjoyng the $1,000 check "
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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I think you're missing the point .... the biggest and better footage of the 1980 contest for some "mysterious" reason never aired...
If is released ,
Well read the questions at beginning of thread
WoooSSHHHHHHHHH
No, I think you are the one missing the point. The point is that this happened in 1980. It's over.
There are no new developments or new ramifications for Arnold or anyone else that was involved.
Let's all get on with our lives.
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No, I think you are the one missing the point. The point is that this happened in 1980. It's over.
There are no new developments or new ramifications for Arnold or anyone else that was involved.
Let's all get on with our lives.
Unless you watch the actual footage filmed by a professional crew from CBS that traveled exclusively to capture the contest as it really happened.
Things that makes you go WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !
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Unless you watch the actual footage filmed by a professional crew from CBS that traveled exclusively to capture the contest as it really happened.
Things that makes you go WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !
Unless you want to build a time machine it's going to make zero difference. Arnold won. End of story.
Arnold is almost 70 fucking years old at this point. Mentzer lost his mind and dropped dead. It's over. No one cares anymore.
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Unless you want to build a time machine it's going to make zero difference. Arnold won. End of story.
Arnold is almost 70 fucking years old at this point. Mentzer lost his mind and dropped dead. It's over. No one cares anymore.
The truth can emerge and change everything ...all you need is a new perspective, a new evidence. - "Frank Zane'
Plus you need to admit that It'd b wicked fun to watch the most respected bodybuilders of all time, in one line up displayed from a neutral source rather than just Weider,Busek,Balik, old pics and articles .
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH the truth will save us all
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The truth can emerge and change everything ...all you need is a new perspective, a new evidence. - "Frank Zane'
Plus you need to admit that It'd b wicked fun to watch the most respected bodybuilders of all time, in one line up displayed from a neutral source rather than just Weider,Busek,Balik, old pics and articles .
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH the truth will save us all
I don't think so
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Arnold kicked ass in `80 !!
Stop whining!
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I don't think so
Then you're not really a bodybuilding fan , don't want any negative publicity towards Arnold last Olympia, or are under age 21 and don't know much about it.
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Booing or not... the video does not lie. Arnold (25lbs lighter than he was previously) was the best bodybuilder on that day.
Get over it.
It was very close and Arnold, being Arnold, won the day.
In 1980, Zane was lighter and off from his incredible 1979 winning form.
Mentzer looked good but lacked the chest depth and overall stage presence to defeat Arnold.
Roy Callender and Chris Dickerson looked incredible but seemed small next to a man of Arnold's stature.
Boyer Coe lacked abs and back detail and Platz was still too bottom hvy in 1980
I can see why Arnold won and have no problems with it.
Based on what I have seen , I would have picked it:
Roy Calender 1st, Dickerson 2nd, Arnold 3rd, Mentzer 4th...
I had Tom Platz winning in 1981 as he looked incredible.
Franco winning in 1981 was the worst Olympia pick of all time.
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I took a lot of photos of the 1980 Mr Olympia which was in Sydney. During the finals I was shooting colour slides and got a mate in the row in front of me
to take a video. Would you believe most of that was ruined because he got so excited he started stamping his feet. I haven't looked at it to see if I
recorded the booing at the end. This mate was cheering for Roger Walker who made the finals and thus all the excitement. What a shame
because I was in a great position in the middle of the Concert Hall and we would have had a good view of what happened.
1000x repeated story ::)
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Roy Callender and Chris Dickerson looked incredible but seemed small next to a man of Arnold's stature.
I was watching 'The Comeback' on youtube, and noticed this. But I also felt Arnold looked, I dunno, kind of old and tired. Didn't have that enthusiasm from before. Which I guess could be attributed to his focus on Hollywood?
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Unless you watch the actual footage filmed by a professional crew from CBS that traveled exclusively to capture the contest as it really happened.
Things that makes you go WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !
I saw a fuzzy YOUTUBE version , so I'm an expert on this topic... ;)
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I was watching 'The Comeback' on youtube, and noticed this. But I also felt Arnold looked, I dunno, kind of old and tired. Didn't have that enthusiasm from before. Which I guess could be attributed to his focus on Hollywood?
I agree, but I wasn't there in person, so WTF.
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Given that photo above I would have it:
Arnold - 1st.
Mike - 2nd.
Frank - 3rd.
Chris - Does not belong there. At all.
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Still the best on stage that day.
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This a great article about the 1980 Mr. Olympia contest -
http://www.starkcenter.org/static/igh/articles/igh11.1.4.pdf
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Given that photo above I would have it:
Arnold - 1st.
Mike - 2nd.
Frank - 3rd.
Chris - Does not belong there. At all.
Zane and Mentzer were very close on Video, Zane much better structure but too small and looked a bit sick which he was. Mike was big but structure was not as good. Arnold won easily, best structure by a mile, bigger than all, very ripped.
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This a great article about the 1980 Mr. Olympia contest -
http://www.starkcenter.org/static/igh/articles/igh11.1.4.pdf
Interesting that I am quoted in that article but John Fair never talked to me. What he wrote was inaccurate as well. John goes into great detail about the judges at the 80 Olympia and their relationship with Arnold.
I had the original judges sheets so compiled the results and made some observations. I was standing in the Opera House before the judging and was talking with Frank Burwash and Peter McCarthy from Melbourne.
Frank was a contest promoter and Peter won the Mr Australia a couple of times plus he won every contest promoted in Australia at his peak. Someone came up to Peter and told him the judges meeting had started.
Peter was upset because no one told him. He raced off but we found out he wasn't allowed to judge because he missed the meeting. He was there for part of the meeting because he is in some of the photos.
I call this bullshit. Peter knows how to judge a bodybuilding contest and was the most respected and awarded bodybuilder in those days. If the accusation of fixing the contest is true then this is how it happened.
Paul Graham apparently decided to replace Peter with young Brendan Ryan who had won only a Junior Mr Australia title and no senior title that I am aware of. I actually judged the contest that he won.
I knew Brendan personally because I hung around Coogee Gym where Brendan trained as did Les Spendlove and Robert Nailon. We knew that Brendan stayed with Arnold when he visited LA. That suggests
they were mates and Brendan would favour Arnold. As it turned out Brendan gave Arnold clear first places in all rounds. Other judges gave several guys a 20 out of 20 score in one or more rounds. So
Brendan's score carried more weight than those who tied several guys. If we replace Brendan's score with the rightful Australian judge, Peter McCarthy, then Arnold might NOT have won. It was that close.
Of course, that is the prejudging and there is another judging at the finals. That is the time 'adjustments' can be made if promoters or officials feel 'errors' have occurred.
Fair quotes Dickerson as complaining about promoter Paul Graham who was a mate of Arnold when they lived together in late 68 up to Paul's arrest in early 69 for sending stolen cars to Australia.
Arnold wasn't arrested so many felt he owed Paul who took the rap. I was in Honolulu the day after Paul was arrested and relatives cut out a clipping showing a muscleman holding a car with the
caption about Paul being arrested by the FBI who handle cases involving interstate or foreign crimes. I sent the clipping to my buddy Robert Nailon who tells me he can't find it. Yeah, sure.
Dickerson swears that Graham was a bigot and called Chris a fag and wouldn't allow him to win the Olympia. Read what Fair wrote in that History article.
Fair used my photos and never paid me for them or got permission to use them. He won't reply to an email I sent him. Funny, that.
In the last photo below you can see Peter McCarthy to the left of Mike's head. Why wasn't he a judge that day?
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/news/bodybuilding-news/11982-mentzer-vs-arnie.html#.VLUwIVWUeMI
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Interesting that I am quoted in that article but John Fair never talked to me. What he wrote was inaccurate as well. John goes into great detail about the judges at the 80 Olympia and their relationship with Arnold.
I had the original judges sheets so compiled the results and made some observations. I was standing in the Opera House before the judging and was talking with Frank Burwash and Peter McCarthy from Melbourne.
Frank was a contest promoter and Peter won the Mr Australia a couple of times plus he won every contest promoted in Australia at his peak. Someone came up to Peter and told him the judges meeting had started.
Peter was upset because no one told him. He raced off but we found out he wasn't allowed to judge because he missed the meeting. He was there for part of the meeting because he is in some of the photos.
I call this bullshit. Peter knows how to judge a bodybuilding contest and was the most respected and awarded bodybuilder in those days. If the accusation of fixing the contest is true then this is how it happened.
Paul Graham apparently decided to replace Peter with young Brendan Ryan who had won only a Junior Mr Australia title and no senior title that I am aware of. I actually judged the contest that he won.
I knew Brendan personally because I hung around Coogee Gym where Brendan trained as did Les Spendlove and Robert Nailon. We knew that Brendan stayed with Arnold when he visited LA. That suggests
they were mates and Brendan would favour Arnold. As it turned out Brendan gave Arnold clear first places in all rounds. Other judges gave several guys a 20 out of 20 score in one or more rounds. So
Brendan's score carried more weight than those who tied several guys. If we replace Brendan's score with the rightful Australian judge, Peter McCarthy, then Arnold might NOT have won. It was that close.
Of course, that is the prejudging and there is another judging at the finals. That is the time 'adjustments' can be made if promoters or officials feel 'errors' have occurred.
Fair quotes Dickerson as complaining about promoter Paul Graham who was a mate of Arnold when they lived together in late 68 up to Paul's arrest in early 69 for sending stolen cars to Australia.
Arnold wasn't arrested so many felt he owed Paul who took the rap. I was in Honolulu the day after Paul was arrested and relatives cut out a clipping showing a muscleman holding a car with the
caption about Paul being arrested by the FBI who handle cases involving interstate or foreign crimes. I sent the clipping to my buddy Robert Nailon who tells me he can't find it. Yeah, sure.
Dickerson swears that Graham was a bigot and called Chris a fag and wouldn't allow him to win the Olympia. Read what Fair wrote in that History article.
Fair used my photos and never paid me for them or got permission to use them. He won't reply to an email I sent him. Funny, that.
In the last photo below you can see Peter McCarthy to the left of Mike's head. Why wasn't he a judge that day?
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/news/bodybuilding-news/11982-mentzer-vs-arnie.html#.VLUwIVWUeMI
This is why the original footage should be released ,
Arnold being friends with judges, refusing the open class, The booing when he is announced the winner ,and all the posing (one on one) against the likes of Dickerson (awesome muscle separation and balanced) you can see clearly that Arnold refuses to do mandatory poses against him,and wasn't marked down for it, also comparisons with Zane and Mentzer were the prime reasons the footage didn't make it to the public,
Just Because Arnold was pushing his image for the Conan movies and didn't want to be perceived as a fraud in that contest
So Arnold is the only bodybuilder who deserves all the credit and all the glory ?
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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where can the footage be seen ? i have " the comeback " dvd , but its not HD .
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I was watching 'The Comeback' on youtube, and noticed this. But I also felt Arnold looked, I dunno, kind of old and tired. Didn't have that enthusiasm from before. Which I guess could be attributed to his focus on Hollywood?
Arnold was only 33 when he won that contest. Hardly old and tired. He just had other priorities that's all. These days, guys are lucky to qualify for their first Olympia by the time they're 33.
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Rightly or Wrongly Arnold Won.
Nothing can change that Now.
Have seen the Comeback Video & Several Magazine Articles / pictures.
Zane.. Looked to Small & Light. Great frame & structure, in shape.
2nd or 3rd.
Dickerson... Small, odd arms, good condition.
3rd to 5th.
Coe... Big, no abs, some Great poses only he could do.
5th or 6th.
Mentzer... Big, good arms & legs, chest looked small & Flat, yet looked full in the waist.
3rd or 4th.
Walker... Very big heavily muscled, looked too pale.
Hard to place, 2nd to 4th.
Arnold... Not his Best. Very light Bodyweight, Legs very Small, Upper Body 85% of peak, good condition.
Big +'s His Name his charisma his friends.
1st.
From the limited footage Etc I have seen, He Probably deserved it.
And we do judge him up against his previous Best.
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On some level that controversy was the best thing to happen to bodybuilding. It let the eras change, but let Arnold stay relevant to bodybuilding throughout the 80s. It also ushered in the time of Lee Haney just a few years later. The bodybuilding world needed another dominant big man after a couple of years of nutsos like Mentzer and some small who cares guys like Zane, Franco and Dickerson. Bannout looked carved out of plastic for his win, but he wasn't able to dominate thereafter.
Now it is all, who cares.
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This is my more inspirational picture when dieting.
Imagine a big magnet of this picture on the fridge with the tittle " walk away fatty"
Wooossshhhhh lean dry Oak
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I took a lot of photos of the 1980 Mr Olympia which was in Sydney. During the finals I was shooting colour slides and got a mate in the row in front of me
to take a video. Would you believe most of that was ruined because he got so excited he started stamping his feet. I haven't looked at it to see if I
recorded the booing at the end. This mate was cheering for Roger Walker who made the finals and thus all the excitement. What a shame
because I was in a great position in the middle of the Concert Hall and we would have had a good view of what happened.
More of vics bullshit . . . has all these photos and never posts any, but every other photo he has shot is on the web.
Good shots money to be made.
Vicb is a total tool
THE BEEF
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I was so disappointed with the Olympia and the magazines that I sold my negs and slides to Robert Nailon. Robert then sold a lot of those photos around the world and especially to Musclemag. Not knowing who to send photos to and what to send each I asked Robert.
He suggested a few magazines plus I was sending to Ironman. I wouldn't send anything to Joe. Robert said not to worry about what to send so I sent everyone the same photos. Well, Robert Kennedy was livid and never communicated with me again. Neither did he pay
for the photos I sent. So Robert the Brain got me real good. I reserved the right to have copies made for my personal use of any of the photos and slides but recently Robert has forgotten we signed an agreement. Trouble is my ex has that agreement and I have no
idea where it is. There you are, be careful in your dealings with friends and partners. Trust no one else.
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This is my more inspirational picture when dieting.
Imagine a big magnet of this picture on the fridge with the tittle " walk away fatty"
Wooossshhhhh lean dry Oak
I have a poster of this photo. The ones that Arnold used to sell via mail order. The ads were always in Muscle and Fitness magazine back in the day.
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The 1980 Olympia has been out for YEARS on VHS and DVD..
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This a great article about the 1980 Mr. Olympia contest -
http://www.starkcenter.org/static/igh/articles/igh11.1.4.pdf
The glowing tribute to Arnold from celebrated British children's entertainer Jimmy Savile side by side with a quote from Charles Dickens is kind of funny(and not even with hindsight). :D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=594537;image)
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Mentzer and Anie seem to be the only two who are expanding the ribcage in the sidechest.That always looks more impressive than merely contracting the pecs.
Difficult to tell from a blurry photograph but Mentzer looks to have both size and conditioning in his lower body. Arnie has the best upper body,but it kind of overpowers his legs,
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The 1980 Olympia has been out for YEARS on VHS and DVD..
Not the CBS Covarage of the entire contest .
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I have a poster of this photo. The ones that Arnold used to sell via mail order. The ads were always in Muscle and Fitness magazine back in the day.
Flex mag should have that picture on the cover sometime this year....
Arnold looks spectacular besides his image always sell, the magazines are dying and its a picture in full color.
Wooosshhhhhhhh Sydney
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Honestly, what gets me is that Peter McGough (sp?) thought the '80 Olympia was more controversial than the '81 OR '82 contests.
Yeah, Arnold wasn't quite himself in 1980 -- but he still easily K.O.ed all of the competition. His [supposed] nearest competitor was Chris Dickerson, for Christ's sake. That dude couldn't do a front double-biceps pose to win a novice contest in the early 80's, forget the Olympia.
Franco "beating" about four or five guys who should've placed ahead of him in '81 is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa y more controversial, Peter. Dickerson winning the '82 Olympia over some vastly superior dudes is a whole other matter ... it wasn't until '83, with Samir winning, that things were beginning to sort out. Even then, a bunch of the old-timers would argue that a great many bullshit results proliferate until Haney was dominant.
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It was very close and Arnold, being Arnold, won the day.
In 1980, Zane was lighter and off from his incredible 1979 winning form.
Mentzer looked good but lacked the chest depth and overall stage presence to defeat Arnold.
Roy Callender and Chris Dickerson looked incredible but seemed small next to a man of Arnold's stature.
Boyer Coe lacked abs and back detail and Platz was still too bottom hvy in 1980
I can see why Arnold won and have no problems with it.
Based on what I have seen , I would have picked it:
Roy Calender 1st, Dickerson 2nd, Arnold 3rd, Mentzer 4th...
I had Tom Platz winning in 1981 as he looked incredible.
Franco winning in 1981 was the worst Olympia pick of all time.
Platz, Dickerson or Padilla shold have won in 1981
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If Arnold releases that DVD just in time before his Terminator Genesys film, it could boost his persona.
Just like the 80' contest Did.....When he was promoting Conan the barbarian.
Wooosshhhhhh
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Roy Callender. Mike Mentzer. Boyer Coe. Danny Padilla. Dennis Tinerino. Frank Zane. Chris Dickerson.
Ken Waller. Tony Emmott.
From memory.
Some fine physiques & all wearing everyday casual clothes.
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4,5,7,8,2,3,9,6,1
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Thanks, some great pics posted.
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Watching this in HQ video full color , should be something out of this world for the entire bodybuilding community
WoooSSHHHHHHH The most entertaining BB contest of all time
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it's like the 1919 blacksox.
how some people allow themselves to be insulted i'll never know.
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Watching this in HQ video full color , should be something out of this world for the entire bodybuilding community
WoooSSHHHHHHH The most entertaining BB contest of all time
The wise Arnold always knows best...
Single pleated and v neck when you are a large thick human. You look like a stuffed sausage otherwise
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his physique suffered in the 80's from drug overdosing. In the 70's the just worked hard constantly and stay in contest shape but some time off he rushed back, drugged hard to get ready for the show and in the process pushed his physique too hard and too fast.
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There seems he changed something after 1974 Mr Olympia (or began to experience some health problems associated with drugs).
74 :
(http://www.schwarzenegger.com/index.php?ACT=52&fid=18&aid=2301_3ij471vmRflC11nTrlA7&board_id=1)
75 :
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qpbd_dLJfQQ/T8m1XwLfFKI/AAAAAAAACIo/PNh69fzCyq8/s400/310615_10150960241680105_261314600104_21622871_1661745925_n.jpg)
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As Patches O'houlihan would say, "it's like watching a bunch of retards trying to fuck a doorknob".
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There seems he changed something after 1974 Mr Olympia (or began to experience some health problems associated with drugs).
74 :
(http://www.schwarzenegger.com/index.php?ACT=52&fid=18&aid=2301_3ij471vmRflC11nTrlA7&board_id=1)
75 :
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qpbd_dLJfQQ/T8m1XwLfFKI/AAAAAAAACIo/PNh69fzCyq8/s400/310615_10150960241680105_261314600104_21622871_1661745925_n.jpg)
I think it's because he didn't trained long enough in '75 and '80. He had planned to retire in '74 but was approach for the PI movie. And by then I think he lost the hunger he had to really push himself. He was so dominate for his time that he simply lost interest. I don't think he had more than 3 months to get ready for both shows. And that's coming from not, or barely, training at all.
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You're probably right.
I don't know how credible he is, but Jerry Brainum is talking about Arnold and his training in this interview :
(http://www.schwarzenegger.com/index.php?ACT=52&fid=18&aid=2009_NDjUhv6VH4XzaEjessPw&board_id=1)
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Didn't know Boyer got to watch the uncut version of the CBS 1980 Olympia footage along with few others !
So, they didn't aired it cause it was too controversial ?
Hmmmmm The best thing that can happen to any tv network is to air a controversial show ......
So, they followed around Tinerino ,Zane ,Dickerson and Boyer all featured as the main contenders for the contest.
At then comes Arnold,unexpected out of nowhere and win it all , now that will make the whole crew and production look like they did a poor job by following around the wrong contestants and making the contest about everyone but the winner....
That to me makes more sense to not air the show.
Arnold was booed, fellow competitors feel he wasn't even top three
But to Arnold in general the 80's were the most successful decade due to his popularity in movies.
Which will make the controversial 1980 MrO never aired footage more attractive to mainstream audiences than pumping Iron was in the 70's
We need to get hands on that footage John !!
Wooossshhhhhhhh.
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Controversial only because Arnold shouldn't have been allowed to compete, not because he was undeserving of the title, won fair and square in my opinion... Most controversial? Hardly... Mr Basile himself, if i remember correctly, said that Arnold was booed for a moment, cheered after...
It's a bodybuilding contest. It's judged by rather subjective criteria and ARNOLD won.
Poor Mentzer never could get over it and quit competing as a pro after that.
The only on Mike hurt on that, was himself.
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I like how Boyer and the rest of the guys say that Arnold looked smaller, worried and insecure ...
in the pictures he's the biggest most secure and all smiles .
Grin
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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There seems he changed something after 1974 Mr Olympia (or began to experience some health problems associated with drugs).
74 :
(http://www.schwarzenegger.com/index.php?ACT=52&fid=18&aid=2301_3ij471vmRflC11nTrlA7&board_id=1)
75 :
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qpbd_dLJfQQ/T8m1XwLfFKI/AAAAAAAACIo/PNh69fzCyq8/s400/310615_10150960241680105_261314600104_21622871_1661745925_n.jpg)
In 1975 he lost a lot of weight to do Stay Hungry. Then he was asked to do Pumping Iron and had to get ready for that. Arnold's overtraining would make it harder to get back in the same shape because he doesn't let himself recover properly.
1980 he did at last minute too and was leaner than any other show. Once you start dropping weight when you are already lean it shows.
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In 1980 he was ripped,lean beyond belief . better muscle separation compared to his 1970's form .
The CBS footage remastered, HQ, or better yet Blu Ray will be worth the 35 years wait.
TRUST ME
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It was very close and Arnold, being Arnold, won the day.
In 1980, Zane was lighter and off from his incredible 1979 winning form.
Mentzer looked good but lacked the chest depth and overall stage presence to defeat Arnold.
Roy Callender and Chris Dickerson looked incredible but seemed small next to a man of Arnold's stature.
Boyer Coe lacked abs and back detail and Platz was still too bottom hvy in 1980
I can see why Arnold won and have no problems with it.
Based on what I have seen , I would have picked it:
Roy Calender 1st, Dickerson 2nd, Arnold 3rd, Mentzer 4th...
I had Tom Platz winning in 1981 as he looked incredible.
Franco winning in 1981 was the worst Olympia pick of all time.
Second was placing Gunter Schlierkamp 5th in 2002, he should have won
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Woooshhhhhh
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Seems every year there's "unreleased footage" how much f'in unreleased footage is there of this guy?
Guess then the footage of current pro's sucks so bad, the industry people did deeper to see what they can find that was good in the past...
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Second was placing Gunter Schlierkamp 5th in 2002, he should have won
At least Gunter did win the GNC handily. Cue Huckster meltdown in 3,2,1...
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At least Gunter did win the GNC handily. Cue Huckster meltdown in 3,2,1...
:o Did he.
Who did Gunter beat to win that Year.....
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WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH CBS
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:o Did he.
Who did Gunter beat to win that Year.....
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The guy next to him in this pic, who he's making look small and smooth. ;D
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Doubt the CBS footage will show something different than the released films and pictures show-that Arnold was still the best,but it will be good to see it though.
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The guy next to him in this pic, who he's making look small and smooth. ;D
Ahh Yes Mr Coleman I believe.
He has small hips & a very Bulbous Midsection.
How Could I Have Forgotten That Event.
Ha..😀
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Ahh Yes Mr Coleman I believe.
He has small hips & a very Bulbous Midsection.
How Could I Have Forgotten That Event.
Ha..😀
Mr.O 2002 discussion goes here :
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=569082.0
WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH TA NA KA
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Serious question to competitive bbers. How come they don't do RDB like this anymore? Why do they step back and stop and squat down. Just like a standing relax they use to stand normally with a just slight flare of the arms so it doesn't look like you are slouching. Now they flare their arms out which flattens out your delts and makes you look like a school boy that's goofing around trying to look strong in a mocking way. BBers use to have some semblance of dignity when they posed back in the day. Remember in PI how majestic Arnold looked? Didn't have that fake smile when doing a most muscular. That's not a pose that you should smile. It's suppose to be more of a "Look at this, bitches!" pose.
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Serious question to competitive bbers. How come they don't do RDB like this anymore? Why do they step back and stop and squat down. Just like a standing relax they use to stand normally with a just slight flare of the arms so it doesn't look like you are slouching. Now they flare their arms out which flattens out your delts and makes you look like a school boy that's goofing around trying to look strong in a mocking way. BBers use to have some semblance of dignity when they posed back in the day. Remember in PI how majestic Arnold looked? Didn't have that fake smile when doing a most muscular. That's not a pose that you should smile. It's suppose to be more of a "Look at this, bitches!" pose.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=610737;image)
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GOOD POINTS MAN,,,,BUT UNFORTUNATLEY BBING HAS PROGRESSED 'SO LEGS 'THAT WERE NOT AS PREVELANT THEN LIKE NOW NEED TO BE SEEN /FLEXED ,SO BRINGING LEGS BACK OR TO SIDE SLIGHTLY SHOWS HAM SEPERATION /CALVES FLEXED TOO..
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GOOD POINTS MAN,,,,BUT UNFORTUNATLEY BBING HAS PROGRESSED 'SO LEGS 'THAT WERE NOT AS PREVELANT THEN LIKE NOW NEED TO BE SEEN /FLEXED ,SO BRINGING LEGS BACK OR TO SIDE SLIGHTLY SHOWS HAM SEPERATION /CALVES FLEXED TOO..
But there are specific poses that feature leg development. The rear double bi is mostly back, bis and calves. If you have sick hams and flaring quads it will still be evident. No need to caress them or squat down.
I just feel that more thought and consideration should be taken into having not only an impressive presentation but also a dignified one.
I mean, look at Arnold's facial expression and demeanor in this brief posing routine.
Very dignified and majestic. Even when he walks off the stage. No pretentious strutting or arms flaring. Just walking like a normal person. His physique speaks for itself.
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I am not impressed with the posing of most of the pros. Most copy each other, etc. Take the standing relaxed pose. Each competitor tries to look as big as possible so the arms go out and they look ridiculous.
Most have no clue how to look impressive just standing there. Then you have guys like Branch who put his huge legs out wide making his lower body look even more out of proportion. Since he is placing high
or winning contests he figures he must be doing things right. Ben P makes the same mistake. I am afraid bodybuilding hasn't evolved in a positive way.
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But there are specific poses that feature leg development. The rear double bi is mostly back, bis and calves. If you have sick hams and flaring quads it will still be evident. No need to caress them or squat down.
I just feel that more thought and consideration should be taken into having not only an impressive presentation but also a dignified one.
I mean, look at Arnold's facial expression and demeanor in this brief posing routine.
Very dignified and majestic. Even when he walks off the stage. No pretentious strutting or arms flaring. Just walking like a normal person. His physique speaks for itself.
incredible build.posed real muscle not todays fluff..
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I am afraid bodybuilding hasn't evolved in a positive way.
What could be positive about + 30 kg of fat on MIZZ Canada '70 ;D ;D ;D
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In 1980 he was ripped,lean beyond belief . better muscle separation compared to his 1970's form .
The CBS footage remastered, HQ, or better yet Blu Ray will be worth the 35 years wait.
TRUST ME
Google for Paul Graham film (1980) ' Arnold the Comeback : Total Rebuild '
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Arnold - " The 1980 Mr.O footage is not lost.... is in the trunk of my car "
WoooSSSSHHHHHHHHHH TA NA KA
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Serious question to competitive bbers. How come they don't do RDB like this anymore? Why do they step back and stop and squat down. Just like a standing relax they use to stand normally with a just slight flare of the arms so it doesn't look like you are slouching. Now they flare their arms out which flattens out your delts and makes you look like a school boy that's goofing around trying to look strong in a mocking way. BBers use to have some semblance of dignity when they posed back in the day. Remember in PI how majestic Arnold looked? Didn't have that fake smile when doing a most muscular. That's not a pose that you should smile. It's suppose to be more of a "Look at this, bitches!" pose.
I could not agree more.
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I could not agree more.
Yup. A lot of liddle guysss, they hide when they pose. Now they just squat down like they're about to take a dump. I magine how they must feel... From the back. From the side. From the front. It's like they're taking a dump all de times. Can you imagine how de muss feel? They're dumping all de time!
Bunch of squatty little turdlets. Even the taller guys like Wolf squat down like they're about to cannonball a turdle in a public restroom. Ridiculous.
Stand up and show them what you've got. Height (if you've got it) for one. Aesthetics instead of assthetics. Striated glutes? Schome-bait. 40 inch thighs? Just plain disproportional and fooked up. 48 inch waists. What a waste.
Zit covered Gollum clones and Fap Dancing buttwipes.
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None of the contenders had Arnold in the top 5 that day ...aside from Tom Platz
What were they thinking ?....
Footage coming soon !
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In search of the 1980 CBS footage until finally released !
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHH
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All illuminati and wheatgrass.
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The biggest comeback ever will be seen on tv and remastered
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Arnold ripped to the bone and killing them dead'
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Unless you want to build a time machine it's going to make zero difference. Arnold won. End of story.
Arnold is almost 70 fucking years old at this point. Mentzer lost his mind and dropped dead. It's over. No one cares anymore.
Exactly!
Ok, so some disgruntled fans booed Arnold when he won a close contest.
Oh, so that's the scandal?
LOL, booing the winners and top places are more common then cheering at most bodybuilding contests.
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That day Mentzer was superior to Arnold and should have won !!! >:(
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The 35th Anniversary of the controversial Mr.O will finally be seen on tv ?
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Listen from the 2:55 mark !
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WoooSSHHHHH TA NAKA
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Listen from the 2:55 mark !
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WoooSSHHHHH TA NAKA
I train HIT. As you are getting stronger you have to lower sets.
Arnold won in 1980. Easy. Mike didn't have the structure. He did to win most other comps, not against Arnold.
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Too right, look at the depth and thickness of arnold in the background of that pic above, mentzer is closer and flexing but arnolds size even fully relaxed there wipes him out.
I train HIT. As you are getting stronger you have to lower sets.
Arnold won in 1980. Easy. Mike didn't have the structure. He did to win most other comps, not against Arnold.
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Both had great physiques.
Arnold at his best though was in a different league.
Clearly Arnold was mentally stronger as he was beat in competition
And came back bigger & better.
Mike let that one defeat devastate his bodybuilding career & his life.
One Fcuking Comp. whether it was fixed or not.
That's a very fragile mind set.
All the other competitors never quit, Though they may not of been in agreement
With the results.
Why did mike have such a huge problem with just Arnold Dickerson Zane Were also
Placed ahead of him, Boyer Coe was tied with Mike & the 4th place was awarded to Boyer.
Did Mike honestly think Arnold had also arranged all them placings.
It's a shame Mike could have had a great career & had a lot of good ideas.
The mental weakness let him down.
RIP Mike.
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Watching that youtube film Mike is talking about himself when he says that some beginner bodybuilders with inferiority complexes think that big muscles will make them feel good and then when they get big they don't feel any better about themselves and compete in bodybuilding contests and discover they are fixed and it pisses them off mentally.
Ray was always genetically better than Mike because Mikes muscles were kind of stringy and he had a funny shaped mid section.
Ray had a much more symmetrical physique with rounder muscle shape and just needed to diet a bit harder and he could have been a real contester in Mr Olympia in 81,82,83.
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Then you're not really a bodybuilding fan , don't want any negative publicity towards Arnold last Olympia, or are under age 21 and don't know much about it.
So you are TRUE bodybuilding fan??? LOL... have you competed? I bet when people first see you the immediately think " wow that dude is jacked - he MUST be into bodybuilding".
If not - then you aren't a fan - you're a schmoe
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Watching that youtube film Mike is talking about himself when he says that some beginner bodybuilders with inferiority complexes think that big muscles will make them feel good and then when they get big they don't feel any better about themselves and compete in bodybuilding contests and discover they are fixed and it pisses them off mentally.
Ray was always genetically better than Mike because Mikes muscles were kind of stringy and he had a funny shaped mid section.
Ray had a much more symmetrical physique with rounder muscle shape and just needed to diet a bit harder and he could have been a real contester in Mr Olympia in 81,82,83.
I SAW THAT TOO ABOUT THEM..THERE BUILDS WERE OFF A BIT ,STILL PRETTY COOL 2 REALLY WELL BUILT BROTHERS..CLOSE IN AGE/LOOKS..BARBARIAN BROS TOO AS WELL ONE WAS FREAKING HUGE OTHER ONE LOOKED GOOD BUT WASN'T AS OVERALL BIG 'BOTH WERE SICK STRONG THO..
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Imagine this shot in live motion, full color, remastered and high definition !
Woosh Soon
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Watching that youtube film Mike is talking about himself when he says that some beginner bodybuilders with inferiority complexes think that big muscles will make them feel good and then when they get big they don't feel any better about themselves and compete in bodybuilding contests and discover they are fixed and it pisses them off mentally.
Ray was always genetically better than Mike because Mikes muscles were kind of stringy and he had a funny shaped mid section.
Ray had a much more symmetrical physique with rounder muscle shape and just needed to diet a bit harder and he could have been a real contester in Mr Olympia in 81,82,83.
stringy? ???
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Philsulin will never have this "swag" ....the crew was filming while Arnold was walking outdoors in Sidney with people staring like if he was some kind of rock star .
Soon we will release that CBS footage.
WooOSSHHHHHHHHHHH #1980MR.O
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wow zane's legs look better than arnold's in that shot above no homo
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wow zane's legs look better than arnold's in that shot above no homo
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They all thought Mike was going to be the face of Bodybuilding in the 80's .... then October 4th, 1980 Mr.O happened .
WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH #1980MR.O
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yep and despite arnold being below his par there are still outstanding pics taken from the contest. Even his quads here are impressive
(http://www.legendaryfitness.com/as1980MrO2.jpg)
They all thought Mike was going to be the face of Bodybuilding in the 80's .... then 1980 Mr.O happened .
WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH #1980MR.O
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yep and despite arnold being below his par there are still outstanding pics taken from the contest. Even his quads here are impressive
(http://www.legendaryfitness.com/as1980MrO2.jpg)
like haney he had incredible torso/good limbs/muscle popped from all over..
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right, look at the thickness of his lat too and how low it attaches, amazing muscle insertions.
like haney he had incredible torso/good limbs/muscle popped from all over..
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4 MINUTES ...of perfect transitions and holding poses for 2-3 seconds and poses both sides body to show balance/symmetry,,true master to all things stage bbing...today 60 seconds of cupping ear,raise the roof,all most musculars nothing else,,,
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you forgot to add looking like a bloated toad
4 MINUTES ...of perfect transitions and holding poses for 2-3 seconds and poses both sides body to show balance/symmetry,,true master to all things stage bbing...today 60 seconds of cupping ear,raise the roof,all most musculars nothing else,,,
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you forgot to add looking like a bloated toad
THAT TOO....
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Looks very good there.
Well balanced & in shape.
Knows how to pose.
A great vacuum shot,
jeez when was the last time we see a vacuum shot on a MR O stage.
IIRC that's not his original music on that video.
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Ahha I was correct.
Thanks.
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stringy? ???
Isn’t it obvious?
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Isn’t it obvious?
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Ray Mentzer upped the dose!
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Isn’t it obvious?
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Ray had a more classic bodybuilder look. That's what I liked about Mike. He had a different look. I felt he stood out. The way his arms had this balloon-like look just hanging relax at his side. But not puffed up marshmellow look that Heath has. He looked hard as a rock and carved out of stone. He had a compact muscular density that you don't see much with other bbers except with Dorian.
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Ray had a more classic bodybuilder look. That's what I liked about Mike. He had a different look. I felt he stood out. The way his arms had this balloon-like look just hanging relax at his side. But not puffed up marshmellow look that Heath has. He looked hard as a rock and carved out of stone. He had a compact muscular density that you don't see much with other bbers except with Dorian.
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Mike was a pure mesomorph IMO. Plus very handsome (yeshomo)
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mike had a hell of a build
and was a great writer,
probably the most talented bodybuilder writer out there. i believe i read weider was paying him 150g's a year back in the early 80's to write articles for his magazines.
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The 1980 Olympia - CBS never released footage should be finally released and in Blu ray , Pumping iron has been milked on cable, VHS and dvd way too many times !
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Arnold looks awesome there. look at the lower back and calves !
Cant wait for the CBS footage to be finally released
WoooSHHHHHHHHH
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Back looks great, unfortunately for his competitors he wasn't competing against past versions of himself
Arnold looks awesome there. look at the lower back and calves !
Cant wait for the CBS footage to be finally released
WoooSHHHHHHHHH
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Arnold -- He won.
From the videos & pics Deservedly so.
Those who were there may say different.
Mentzer should of placed higher.
As for Dickerson Getting 2nd.!!
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Arnold -- He won.
From the videos & pics Deservedly so.
Those who were there may say different.
Mentzer should of placed higher.
As for Dickerson Getting 2nd.!!
Yup.
Arnold in first and then either Mike or Frank in second/third. It was close between those two but the Oak for the win. I think Mike should have just done what Arnold did when he lost the Universe to Zane, i.e., taken himself back to the gym and trained with even greater ferocity and won the next year. Arnold may have cried in his hotel room about his loss to Zane, but Mike whined about the '80 Olympia the rest of his life. I still think Mentzer was one of the best ever but he could have been even greater.
As John used to say, if life gives you lemons and you don't like lemonade, then throw 'em back at life and go get what you really wanted in the first place.
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Yup.
Arnold in first and then either Mike or Frank in second/third. It was close between those two but the Oak for the win. I think Mike should have just done what Arnold did when he lost the Universe to Zane, i.e., taken himself back to the gym and trained with even greater ferocity and won the next year. Arnold may have cried in his hotel room about his loss to Zane, but Mike whined about the '80 Olympia the rest of his life. I still think Mentzer was one of the best ever but he could have been even greater.
As John used to say, if life gives you lemons and you don't like lemonade, then throw 'em back at life and go get what you really wanted in the first place.
8)...i agree,mentzer was a beast
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Maybe this 2017 we will finally have the Blu Ray version of what really happened in 1980 ....
Just Maybe
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=680091;image)
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Besides being a little light in the legs, Arnold destroyed everyone else. Can't believe there are people who seriously believe Mentzer won.
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Arnold was thr clear cut winner and could have won for quite a few more years had he wanted to.
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Arnold was thr clear cut winner and could have won for quite a few more years had he wanted to.
Agreed. Arnold @ 80% was still better than the others.
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Extremely hard to believe he was under 230 lbs there.
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Besides being a little light in the legs, Arnold destroyed everyone else. Can't believe there are people who seriously believe Mentzer won.
Same here. 80% of Arnold smokes the rest of these guys on their best day.
Some people trying to apply today's standards to this contest where a small chest and a big stomach is acceptable.
Even if the were right (which they aren't) it's way past time to get over this.
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Maybe this 2017 we will finally have the Blu Ray version of what really happened in 1980 ....
Just Maybe
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=680091;image)
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Dickerson looks like a bag of smashed assholes there. His physique isn't 1/10th as aesthetically pleasing
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Bodybuilding in the old days... when guys actually had HAIR on their heads,,, imagine that. :'(
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Dickerson looks like a bag of smashed assholes there. His physique isn't 1/10th as aesthetically pleasing
All I see are protruding abs.
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I was watching 'The Comeback' on youtube, and noticed this. But I also felt Arnold looked, I dunno, kind of old and tired. Didn't have that enthusiasm from before. Which I guess could be attributed to his focus on Hollywood?
The remaster version of the never before seen CBS footage will tell it like it really was... no some poor quality old clip on youtube
WoooSHHHHHHHH
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Dickerson looks like a bag of smashed assholes there. His physique isn't 1/10th as aesthetically pleasing
Yet he "paid his dues" well. Branch esque
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Yet he "paid his dues" well. Branch esque
Blanch Dickerson. Laughing at my own joke.
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Arnold's traps are as big/wide as Callanders even in the background
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Extremely hard to believe he was under 230 lbs there.
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Looks WAY heavier, like 250lb even 260lb, he was a REAL mystery when it came to bodyweight...
UNLESS his damn legs weighed nothing!!!
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A bit choppy, but gave me more to think about. Danny's arms are sick!
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Wow You were there too? At the night show I sat behind Joe Weider. The ones u didn't identify...yes Tony Emmot....Roy Duval . Both Brits. Roger Walker...a Brit who moved to Australia. Had a gym in Hornsby a suburb of Sydney. Was a partner with the fella who was in the original Mad Max. The lead up comp...called The Best in Australia was won by John Terilli who packed on the size and did well in the states competing in the Olympia. The second Oz bb with the big arms....Graeme Lancefield. Agree most were in shape but Samir and Viator were disappointing. A week or two off. Funny u mention Chris Dickerson ....met him in Atlanta at the inaugural Master's O. A true gentleman.
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Wow You were there too? At the night show I sat behind Joe Weider. The ones u didn't identify...yes Tony Emmot....Roy Duval . Both Brits. Roger Walker...a Brit who moved to Australia. Had a gym in Hornsby a suburb of Sydney. Was a partner with the fella who was in the original Mad Max. The lead up comp...called The Best in Australia was won by John Terilli who packed on the size and did well in the states competing in the Olympia. The second Oz bb with the big arms....Graeme Lancefield. Agree most were in shape but Samir and Viator were disappointing. A week or two off. Funny u mention Chris Dickerson ....met him in Atlanta at the inaugural Master's O. A true gentleman.
WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME............. ........................ ..............FUCKFACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111
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Ha Wes got news for ya ;) Been here for at least ...mmmm... well over 15..17 years. Not as mong as Ausvet. Used to answer Bix's guess who's if that gives u an idea of time. But thanks for the old Wes welcome!
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I never saw Zane look so...good! Nice find.
Did these guys hit legs once a month or what? God forbid a strong gust of wind come along...
WTF since when did Padilla have huge arms??
Arnold was the Coleman of that era no doubt. You could see everybody kind of had a similar build and posing style and Arnold just did it better in every possible way.
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Having watched this again, Coe looked Amazing.
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Ha Wes got news for ya ;) Been here for at least ...mmmm... well over 15..17 years. Not as mong as Ausvet. Used to answer Bix's guess who's if that gives u an idea of time. But thanks for the old Wes welcome!
An honor to receive that welcome lol......
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I prefer homemade footage from mryorkielover with goofy broads embarrassing themselves on muscle beach
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That's Norm Komich's video. He used to be on IronAge all the time. Norm passed away several years ago.
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Ha Wes got news for ya ;) Been here for at least ...mmmm... well over 15..17 years. Not as mong as Ausvet. Used to answer Bix's guess who's if that gives u an idea of time. But thanks for the old Wes welcome!
My apologies didn`t recognize the name.......now Ausvet I remember.
Good old Bix.
sorry pal !!
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Padilla's arms looked insane from that angle, something's going on with that camera. And not sure if it was a joke but that is not Bertil Fox.
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Nice find. Zane and Coe both looked very good. Mentzer from the front looked alright but he completely vanished when side on. I don't think he had much room to complain the way he did.
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Padilla's arms looked insane from that angle, something's going on with that camera. And not sure if it was a joke but that is not Bertil Fox.
Danny was huge in the 1980 Olympia. Bertil Fox wasn't in the Olympia that year. I think he meant Roy Callender.
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Nice find. Zane and Coe both looked very good. Mentzer from the front looked alright but he completely vanished when side on. I don't think he had much room to complain the way he did.
He was delusional.
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Mentzer uncrowned Mr. O
it corruptional
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Mentzer uncrowned Mr. O
it corruptional
What year?
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What year?
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None....
Agreed but Maxx seems to think otherwise. The Mentzer nuthuggers can never name the year in which he should have won the O.
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The video makes Zane look like the clear winner.
Mentzer really does vanish from the side.
Coe and Casey Viator looked good -- should have placed higher.
Arnold's legs and forearms look surprisingly weak, and he seems off-balance somehow.
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The video makes Zane look like the clear winner.
Mentzer really does vanish from the side.
Coe and Casey Viator looked good -- should have placed higher.
Arnold's legs and forearms look surprisingly weak, and he seems off-balance somehow.
That's probably why Zane smashed his trophy.
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1980 was 40 years ago and we still talk about who should have won the Olympia in Sydney that year.
I was there but saw the contest through my camera lenses. I did take 360 photos at the judging then some slides at the
evening show. They called out 7 men for the pose down. Roger Walker had tied for 6th so he was included as the home-town favourite.
Somehow the judges scored the pose down which really was silly. Guys were doing all manner of poses and moved around. No way
anyone was really compared.
Well, imagine the excitement before the places were announced. We knew something was brewing because Mike Mentzer placed 5th.
That was a surprise. Then Boyer Coe 4th. The shock was three time Mr Olympia placing 3rd...Frank Zane. Then the Concert Hall became
silent....in second place...Chris Dickerson. That meant that Arnold won. The audience booed long and loud. Finally they accepted Arnold's
victory and gave him what he deserved.
I wasn't surprised that Arnold won but the placings were all over the place. There were 200 people from our gym there and everyone
had an opinion. I was surprised that some of the bodybuilders from my gym favoured Chris Dickerson.
I formed my opinions later when developing my black and white photos. Several of the guys could have won. The judges thought so, too,
and many of the competitors got a 20 score in at least one round. That was the trouble with this contest. Too many judges awarded 20 scores.
When many judges fail to separate the competitors that leaves the scores of those who did to count more.
There was also a mystery how Brendan Ryan, a junior, was chosen to judge over several times Mr Australia, Peter McCarthy. I was standing
with Peter and Frank Burwash before the judging and someone told Peter the judges' meeting had started. Peter swore and raced off but
was told he missed part of the meeting so couldn't judge. Apparently Peter was told the wrong time for the meeting! It turned out that
had Peter judged and not Brendan the result might have favoured Chris.
Well, those of us who are cynical and have been around contests for a long time suspect that many contests are 'fixed'. What happens
most of the time is that a certain competitor isn't allowed to win. I cite Bev Francis as one such person in the IFBB. No way they were
going to let her win the Ms Olympia. Sergio also placed 8th when he competed in 1984 but he was past his prime.
Dennis was the hardest competitor and had the best abs. His posing let him down. Boyer Coe had the best routine and that is probably
why he placed ahead of Mike. Chris Dickerson gave a superb presentation. What more could anyone say? Just a beautiful physique that night.
Arnold wasn't great at the judging until the posing and comparison rounds. All of a sudden there was the old Arnold looking great in his
posing from front to back. His arms and calves were huge and they helped him look better than he was.
Mike Mentzer looked good by himself but he, Frank and Chris looked small when compared to Arnold. Mike looked the winner in some of his
poses. 5th place was a bitter pill to swallow and he never competed again which was a shame. Frank Zane looked a bit red. Classic physique
and he posed for what seemed like an eternity. He was appreciated but the audience didn't go nuts or anything. 3 times Mr Olympia and
now 3rd place. He somehow 'dropped' his trophy back stage. He didn't want any company at the Hilton, either, and was heard to be crying
in his room!
Paul Graham organised a harbour cruise after the contest. Almost all the competitors and judges were there including Joe Weider.
After viewing my photos and slides I came to accept that Arnold won the contest. His arms and chest dwarfed the others. His thighs
were down but he was really cut up. The competitor who was totally overlooked was Danny Padilla. He wasn't called out for any comparison
among the winners. If you put his photo on a grid then he had the best physique there. His height let him down which was a real shame.
Just some thoughts after 40 years.
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Roger Walker looked like the only competitor who could match Arnold's size. Mentzer was mentally weak. He lost one contest and quit. He should have kept competing and he easily could have won in 81, 82, 83 and maybe even 84 when Haney was raw.
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Another photo from 1980. I notice that Mike has part of his left trap atrophied. Perhaps that is partly why he stopped competing?
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Here is a photo from the Olympia I found. Danny is on the left. Best physique in the lineup.
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Another photo from 1980. I notice that Mike has part of his left trap atrophied. Perhaps that is partly why he stopped competing?
I don't think so . . . I believe it was just part of his structure. I had a copy of the 76 Mr. Universe in Montreal which was broadcast by ABC's Wide World of Sports - Oscar State doing the commentary with Bob Beattie commented on it. Wide World of Sports, a show that still to this day has not been equaled.
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Another photo from 1980. I notice that Mike has part of his left trap atrophied. Perhaps that is partly why he stopped competing?
Both Mike and Arnold have one side of their traps flexed differently in that photo. I think they are twisting the left arm differently in the pose than the right.
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Both Mike and Arnold have one side of their traps flexed differently in that photo. I think they are twisting the left arm differently in the pose than the right.
No, see above.
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Roger Walker looked like the only competitor who could match Arnold's size. Mentzer was mentally weak. He lost one contest and quit. He should have kept competing and he easily could have won in 81, 82, 83 and maybe even 84 when Haney was raw.
Mentzer had no chance in 83 and 84.
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Mentzer had no chance in 83 and 84.
83 and 84 would have been much tougher than 81 and 82 but he would have been the reigning Olympia making him tougher to beat. Lou should have never retired after 75 and he may have won the title 10X.
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That's Norm Komich's video. He used to be on IronAge all the time. Norm passed away several years ago.
He was a great guy. He had film of so much great stuff. He had footage of the first Olympia. He sent it to me for free along with a print that Chuck Sipes drew. I believe he made his living as an airline pilot.
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The narrator is a clown. Says Bev Francis benched “over 400”.
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The narrator is a clown. Says Bev Francis benched “over 400”.
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Squat – 500 lb (230 kg)
Bench press – 335 lb (152 kg)
Deadlift – 501 lb (227 kg)
She did it with drugs and cheat suits. Still impressive.
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The narrator is a clown. Says Bev Francis benched “over 400”.
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He didn't mention the 3 spotters.
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There really is no controversy. This ongoing myth really needs to die now. Controversial? Not really, big guys always have the advantage. Dorian over Ray and mostly Cutler over Dexter etc. Arnold was big and developed while the other competitors were tiny compared to him. Bigger is better in the real world.
First up. The story of CBS sports, which was covering the event, had supposedly Mentzer pegged as the winner before the contest results were announced. After the contest, they pulled their crew and never aired the coverage and never covered the O again. Well that’s all a lie.
The reality is there was never any statements by CBS about a fix or anything at all. No footage was broadcast because the filming crew had run out of tape. That’s all it was. They never filmed the whole thing. The story about CBS pulling because of a "fix"was conjured up by Coe and Mentzer since they were bitter losers and wanted to discredited Arnold. The story is still being kept alive by fans of Mentzer’s training philosphy who want to rewrite history, because what else do they have to hang on to? Nothing.
Secondly. Mentzer was never a contender. Mentzer still would have been in 4th place even if Arnold never entered. This whole Arnold vs Mentzer thing was created years later he was never a real threat onstage. He was a footnote and nothing more. Revisionist history. He became a contender years after the fact when he had a resurgence of popularity from his HIT training system. Back in 1980 he was just a footnote now somehow he was better than Arnold. People can’t seperate their need to embellish his brief competitive record because they like HIT. So they make it seem like Arnold and Mentzer were rivals, when Arnold barely knew Mentzer existed most of the time. Arnolds only rivals were Sergio and Ferrigno. Mentzer just wasn’t worth noting as competition and no one would remember him if he hadn’t become an author of HIT books later in life.
Mentzer couldn’t even beat Zane or Dickerson and they were pretty small. HIT devotees want to deify their idol though so they won’t stop claiming he was the rightful winner despite the evidence. Ludicrous. Mike Mentzer places lower than he felt and spends the rest of his ‘career’ whining about it.
And another thing about Mentzer- his HIT is BS. Did he train like that? Nope. First he says train 4 days a week, then his HIT gets more minimal over the years so he can get some attention. Finally, how often did he advocate training a bodypart- once every 12 days or something? Just a pile of BS to generate money. Nothing more.
As for Arnold not being at his best is he didn’t need to be. He didn’t have to be at his best. Do you know why Arnold risked his legacy to compete one more time? Because it was a WEAK line-up. All the major contenders were gone like Sergio, Ferrigno and Nubret and all Arnold had to do was beat a bunch of B-Listers who were half his size. None of them could be a dominate Mr Olympia they were just keeping the seat warm until a guy like Haney showed up.
Zane beat Mentzer at the 79 Olympia but both guys were pretty small, and in 1980 Mentzer finished a distant 5th while Zane got 3rd. There were a lot of guys in the contest but they were all B-list or C-list in some cases so stacked doesn’t mean much at all just a lot of filler. Now if an A-list guy like Sergio had of competed Arnold may not of entered. Only Samir had the potential and drive but he finished 15th in 1980. So yeah full but weak line-up at this contest.
The big guys had moved on, and the second tier guys were left or do you really think a small guy like Dickerson could have beat Sergio? Nope. Between the Arnold and Haney years was the rise of the smaller, skinnier Olympians who put more emphasis on conditioning rather than mass.
Anyway Zane was way off, Dickerson was too small and Samir was a long way from achieving his potential so none them posed a significant threat to Arnold which is why he entered and won.
And finally, people tend to believe what other people tell them about the 1980 contest, that is until they get to see the actual evidence for themselves and realise it was really was much ado about nothing. For some people it can be quite a surprise to realise that the judging wasn’t some great scandalous betrayal of everything that was good and holy like Mentzer constantly claimed in his articles up until death finally let him get over it. It’s funny how people always say how Arnold’s prestige affected the results, when all this “controversy” is due to Mentzer’s constant crying about the result! It was MENTZER who has created a hype around himself! He didn’t like Arnold’s training style, so he didn’t like Arnold. Mike just could not stop acting like a little child, very bad sport.
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There really is no controversy. This ongoing myth really needs to die now. Controversial? Not really, big guys always have the advantage. Dorian over Ray and mostly Cutler over Dexter etc. Arnold was big and developed while the other competitors were tiny compared to him. Bigger is better in the real world.
First up. The story of CBS sports, which was covering the event, had supposedly Mentzer pegged as the winner before the contest results were announced. After the contest, they pulled their crew and never aired the coverage and never covered the O again. Well that’s all a lie.
The reality is there was never any statements by CBS about a fix or anything at all. No footage was broadcast because the filming crew had run out of tape. That’s all it was. They never filmed the whole thing. The story about CBS pulling because of a "fix"was conjured up by Coe and Mentzer since they were bitter losers and wanted to discredited Arnold. The story is still being kept alive by fans of Mentzer’s training philosphy who want to rewrite history, because what else do they have to hang on to? Nothing.
Secondly. Mentzer was never a contender. Mentzer still would have been in 4th place even if Arnold never entered. This whole Arnold vs Mentzer thing was created years later he was never a real threat onstage. He was a footnote and nothing more. Revisionist history. He became a contender years after the fact when he had a resurgence of popularity from his HIT training system. Back in 1980 he was just a footnote now somehow he was better than Arnold. People can’t seperate their need to embellish his brief competitive record because they like HIT. So they make it seem like Arnold and Mentzer were rivals, when Arnold barely knew Mentzer existed most of the time. Arnolds only rivals were Sergio and Ferrigno. Mentzer just wasn’t worth noting as competition and no one would remember him if he hadn’t become an author of HIT books later in life.
Mentzer couldn’t even beat Zane or Dickerson and they were pretty small. HIT devotees want to deify their idol though so they won’t stop claiming he was the rightful winner despite the evidence. Ludicrous. Mike Mentzer places lower than he felt and spends the rest of his ‘career’ whining about it.
And another thing about Mentzer- his HIT is BS. Did he train like that? Nope. First he says train 4 days a week, then his HIT gets more minimal over the years so he can get some attention. Finally, how often did he advocate training a bodypart- once every 12 days or something? Just a pile of BS to generate money. Nothing more.
As for Arnold not being at his best is he didn’t need to be. He didn’t have to be at his best. Do you know why Arnold risked his legacy to compete one more time? Because it was a WEAK line-up. All the major contenders were gone like Sergio, Ferrigno and Nubret and all Arnold had to do was beat a bunch of B-Listers who were half his size. None of them could be a dominate Mr Olympia they were just keeping the seat warm until a guy like Haney showed up.
Zane beat Mentzer at the 79 Olympia but both guys were pretty small, and in 1980 Mentzer finished a distant 5th while Zane got 3rd. There were a lot of guys in the contest but they were all B-list or C-list in some cases so stacked doesn’t mean much at all just a lot of filler. Now if an A-list guy like Sergio had of competed Arnold may not of entered. Only Samir had the potential and drive but he finished 15th in 1980. So yeah full but weak line-up at this contest.
The big guys had moved on, and the second tier guys were left or do you really think a small guy like Dickerson could have beat Sergio? Nope. Between the Arnold and Haney years was the rise of the smaller, skinnier Olympians who put more emphasis on conditioning rather than mass.
Anyway Zane was way off, Dickerson was too small and Samir was a long way from achieving his potential so none them posed a significant threat to Arnold which is why he entered and won.
And finally, people tend to believe what other people tell them about the 1980 contest, that is until they get to see the actual evidence for themselves and realise it was really was much ado about nothing. For some people it can be quite a surprise to realise that the judging wasn’t some great scandalous betrayal of everything that was good and holy like Mentzer constantly claimed in his articles up until death finally let him get over it. It’s funny how people always say how Arnold’s prestige affected the results, when all this “controversy” is due to Mentzer’s constant crying about the result! It was MENTZER who has created a hype around himself! He didn’t like Arnold’s training style, so he didn’t like Arnold. Mike just could not stop acting like a little child, very bad sport.
so he did G4P?
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There really is no controversy. This ongoing myth really needs to die now. Controversial? Not really, big guys always have the advantage. Dorian over Ray and mostly Cutler over Dexter etc. Arnold was big and developed while the other competitors were tiny compared to him. Bigger is better in the real world.
First up. The story of CBS sports, which was covering the event, had supposedly Mentzer pegged as the winner before the contest results were announced. After the contest, they pulled their crew and never aired the coverage and never covered the O again. Well that’s all a lie.
The reality is there was never any statements by CBS about a fix or anything at all. No footage was broadcast because the filming crew had run out of tape. That’s all it was. They never filmed the whole thing. The story about CBS pulling because of a "fix"was conjured up by Coe and Mentzer since they were bitter losers and wanted to discredited Arnold. The story is still being kept alive by fans of Mentzer’s training philosphy who want to rewrite history, because what else do they have to hang on to? Nothing.
Secondly. Mentzer was never a contender. Mentzer still would have been in 4th place even if Arnold never entered. This whole Arnold vs Mentzer thing was created years later he was never a real threat onstage. He was a footnote and nothing more. Revisionist history. He became a contender years after the fact when he had a resurgence of popularity from his HIT training system. Back in 1980 he was just a footnote now somehow he was better than Arnold. People can’t seperate their need to embellish his brief competitive record because they like HIT. So they make it seem like Arnold and Mentzer were rivals, when Arnold barely knew Mentzer existed most of the time. Arnolds only rivals were Sergio and Ferrigno. Mentzer just wasn’t worth noting as competition and no one would remember him if he hadn’t become an author of HIT books later in life.
Mentzer couldn’t even beat Zane or Dickerson and they were pretty small. HIT devotees want to deify their idol though so they won’t stop claiming he was the rightful winner despite the evidence. Ludicrous. Mike Mentzer places lower than he felt and spends the rest of his ‘career’ whining about it.
And another thing about Mentzer- his HIT is BS. Did he train like that? Nope. First he says train 4 days a week, then his HIT gets more minimal over the years so he can get some attention. Finally, how often did he advocate training a bodypart- once every 12 days or something? Just a pile of BS to generate money. Nothing more.
As for Arnold not being at his best is he didn’t need to be. He didn’t have to be at his best. Do you know why Arnold risked his legacy to compete one more time? Because it was a WEAK line-up. All the major contenders were gone like Sergio, Ferrigno and Nubret and all Arnold had to do was beat a bunch of B-Listers who were half his size. None of them could be a dominate Mr Olympia they were just keeping the seat warm until a guy like Haney showed up.
Zane beat Mentzer at the 79 Olympia but both guys were pretty small, and in 1980 Mentzer finished a distant 5th while Zane got 3rd. There were a lot of guys in the contest but they were all B-list or C-list in some cases so stacked doesn’t mean much at all just a lot of filler. Now if an A-list guy like Sergio had of competed Arnold may not of entered. Only Samir had the potential and drive but he finished 15th in 1980. So yeah full but weak line-up at this contest.
The big guys had moved on, and the second tier guys were left or do you really think a small guy like Dickerson could have beat Sergio? Nope. Between the Arnold and Haney years was the rise of the smaller, skinnier Olympians who put more emphasis on conditioning rather than mass.
Anyway Zane was way off, Dickerson was too small and Samir was a long way from achieving his potential so none them posed a significant threat to Arnold which is why he entered and won.
And finally, people tend to believe what other people tell them about the 1980 contest, that is until they get to see the actual evidence for themselves and realise it was really was much ado about nothing. For some people it can be quite a surprise to realise that the judging wasn’t some great scandalous betrayal of everything that was good and holy like Mentzer constantly claimed in his articles up until death finally let him get over it. It’s funny how people always say how Arnold’s prestige affected the results, when all this “controversy” is due to Mentzer’s constant crying about the result! It was MENTZER who has created a hype around himself! He didn’t like Arnold’s training style, so he didn’t like Arnold. Mike just could not stop acting like a little child, very bad sport.
CBS ran out of tape?
It took 40 years for this information to be released?
I heard a rumor that CBS filmed the whole show and realized an event this gay was not suitable for broadcast television.
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Interesting that I am quoted in that article but John Fair never talked to me. What he wrote was inaccurate as well. John goes into great detail about the judges at the 80 Olympia and their relationship with Arnold.
I had the original judges sheets so compiled the results and made some observations. I was standing in the Opera House before the judging and was talking with Frank Burwash and Peter McCarthy from Melbourne.
Frank was a contest promoter and Peter won the Mr Australia a couple of times plus he won every contest promoted in Australia at his peak. Someone came up to Peter and told him the judges meeting had started.
Peter was upset because no one told him. He raced off but we found out he wasn't allowed to judge because he missed the meeting. He was there for part of the meeting because he is in some of the photos.
I call this bullshit. Peter knows how to judge a bodybuilding contest and was the most respected and awarded bodybuilder in those days. If the accusation of fixing the contest is true then this is how it happened.
Paul Graham apparently decided to replace Peter with young Brendan Ryan who had won only a Junior Mr Australia title and no senior title that I am aware of. I actually judged the contest that he won.
I knew Brendan personally because I hung around Coogee Gym where Brendan trained as did Les Spendlove and Robert Nailon. We knew that Brendan stayed with Arnold when he visited LA. That suggests
they were mates and Brendan would favour Arnold. As it turned out Brendan gave Arnold clear first places in all rounds. Other judges gave several guys a 20 out of 20 score in one or more rounds. So
Brendan's score carried more weight than those who tied several guys. If we replace Brendan's score with the rightful Australian judge, Peter McCarthy, then Arnold might NOT have won. It was that close.
Of course, that is the prejudging and there is another judging at the finals. That is the time 'adjustments' can be made if promoters or officials feel 'errors' have occurred.
Fair quotes Dickerson as complaining about promoter Paul Graham who was a mate of Arnold when they lived together in late 68 up to Paul's arrest in early 69 for sending stolen cars to Australia.
Arnold wasn't arrested so many felt he owed Paul who took the rap. I was in Honolulu the day after Paul was arrested and relatives cut out a clipping showing a muscleman holding a car with the
caption about Paul being arrested by the FBI who handle cases involving interstate or foreign crimes. I sent the clipping to my buddy Robert Nailon who tells me he can't find it. Yeah, sure.
Dickerson swears that Graham was a bigot and called Chris a fag and wouldn't allow him to win the Olympia. Read what Fair wrote in that History article.
Fair used my photos and never paid me for them or got permission to use them. He won't reply to an email I sent him. Funny, that.
In the last photo below you can see Peter McCarthy to the left of Mike's head. Why wasn't he a judge that day?
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/news/bodybuilding-news/11982-mentzer-vs-arnie.html#.VLUwIVWUeMI
is That a Young Vince on the Cover Shot...
Good shoulder width & calves look great.
A good physique.
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Just think back in the day CBS was shooting and airing the Mr.Olympia. Then ESPN aired bodybuilding shows during my time. ESPN aired Bodyshaping for 10 years!! Now…, a joke, came a long way, down.
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Probably the best Coe ever looked. Or at least the best contest condition he ever achieved.
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Probably the best Coe ever looked. Or at least the best contest condition he ever achieved.
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Probably the best Coe ever looked. Or at least the best contest condition he ever achieved.
I was thinking the same thing.
Saw him in person back in the early seventies.....words don`t do him justice though I could try to no avail....he looked like carved marble.........very impressive, in fact one of the best memories I have of ever seeing a top guy in great condition to this very day.
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There really is no controversy. This ongoing myth really needs to die now. Controversial? Not really, big guys always have the advantage. Dorian over Ray and mostly Cutler over Dexter etc. Arnold was big and developed while the other competitors were tiny compared to him. Bigger is better in the real world.
First up. The story of CBS sports, which was covering the event, had supposedly Mentzer pegged as the winner before the contest results were announced. After the contest, they pulled their crew and never aired the coverage and never covered the O again. Well that’s all a lie.
The reality is there was never any statements by CBS about a fix or anything at all. No footage was broadcast because the filming crew had run out of tape. That’s all it was. They never filmed the whole thing. The story about CBS pulling because of a "fix"was conjured up by Coe and Mentzer since they were bitter losers and wanted to discredited Arnold. The story is still being kept alive by fans of Mentzer’s training philosphy who want to rewrite history, because what else do they have to hang on to? Nothing.
Secondly. Mentzer was never a contender. Mentzer still would have been in 4th place even if Arnold never entered. This whole Arnold vs Mentzer thing was created years later he was never a real threat onstage. He was a footnote and nothing more. Revisionist history. He became a contender years after the fact when he had a resurgence of popularity from his HIT training system. Back in 1980 he was just a footnote now somehow he was better than Arnold. People can’t seperate their need to embellish his brief competitive record because they like HIT. So they make it seem like Arnold and Mentzer were rivals, when Arnold barely knew Mentzer existed most of the time. Arnolds only rivals were Sergio and Ferrigno. Mentzer just wasn’t worth noting as competition and no one would remember him if he hadn’t become an author of HIT books later in life.
Mentzer couldn’t even beat Zane or Dickerson and they were pretty small. HIT devotees want to deify their idol though so they won’t stop claiming he was the rightful winner despite the evidence. Ludicrous. Mike Mentzer places lower than he felt and spends the rest of his ‘career’ whining about it.
And another thing about Mentzer- his HIT is BS. Did he train like that? Nope. First he says train 4 days a week, then his HIT gets more minimal over the years so he can get some attention. Finally, how often did he advocate training a bodypart- once every 12 days or something? Just a pile of BS to generate money. Nothing more.
As for Arnold not being at his best is he didn’t need to be. He didn’t have to be at his best. Do you know why Arnold risked his legacy to compete one more time? Because it was a WEAK line-up. All the major contenders were gone like Sergio, Ferrigno and Nubret and all Arnold had to do was beat a bunch of B-Listers who were half his size. None of them could be a dominate Mr Olympia they were just keeping the seat warm until a guy like Haney showed up.
Zane beat Mentzer at the 79 Olympia but both guys were pretty small, and in 1980 Mentzer finished a distant 5th while Zane got 3rd. There were a lot of guys in the contest but they were all B-list or C-list in some cases so stacked doesn’t mean much at all just a lot of filler. Now if an A-list guy like Sergio had of competed Arnold may not of entered. Only Samir had the potential and drive but he finished 15th in 1980. So yeah full but weak line-up at this contest.
The big guys had moved on, and the second tier guys were left or do you really think a small guy like Dickerson could have beat Sergio? Nope. Between the Arnold and Haney years was the rise of the smaller, skinnier Olympians who put more emphasis on conditioning rather than mass.
Anyway Zane was way off, Dickerson was too small and Samir was a long way from achieving his potential so none them posed a significant threat to Arnold which is why he entered and won.
And finally, people tend to believe what other people tell them about the 1980 contest, that is until they get to see the actual evidence for themselves and realise it was really was much ado about nothing. For some people it can be quite a surprise to realise that the judging wasn’t some great scandalous betrayal of everything that was good and holy like Mentzer constantly claimed in his articles up until death finally let him get over it. It’s funny how people always say how Arnold’s prestige affected the results, when all this “controversy” is due to Mentzer’s constant crying about the result! It was MENTZER who has created a hype around himself! He didn’t like Arnold’s training style, so he didn’t like Arnold. Mike just could not stop acting like a little child, very bad sport.
Very good points, and one more thing.
Mentzer was amazing on his own, and he had his fair share of trademark poses.
He had freaky limbs in general, which is very rare.
Also he was very photogenic, so his fans made an icon out of him.
Next to Arnold with his shallow chest, not so broad shoulders and not so thick back, he had no chance. (His deltoids were great but he had relatively compact frame)
Arnold on the other hand seemed like slim when off the sauce, but actually he had a large frame, I guess it is something to do with height difference.
Ferrigno was the only tall 1st tier bber who had truly large frame, and Arnold still had thicker arms
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There really is no controversy. This ongoing myth really needs to die now. Controversial? Not really, big guys always have the advantage. Dorian over Ray and mostly Cutler over Dexter etc. Arnold was big and developed while the other competitors were tiny compared to him. Bigger is better in the real world.
First up. The story of CBS sports, which was covering the event, had supposedly Mentzer pegged as the winner before the contest results were announced. After the contest, they pulled their crew and never aired the coverage and never covered the O again. Well that’s all a lie.
The reality is there was never any statements by CBS about a fix or anything at all. No footage was broadcast because the filming crew had run out of tape. That’s all it was. They never filmed the whole thing. The story about CBS pulling because of a "fix"was conjured up by Coe and Mentzer since they were bitter losers and wanted to discredited Arnold. The story is still being kept alive by fans of Mentzer’s training philosphy who want to rewrite history, because what else do they have to hang on to? Nothing.
Secondly. Mentzer was never a contender. Mentzer still would have been in 4th place even if Arnold never entered. This whole Arnold vs Mentzer thing was created years later he was never a real threat onstage. He was a footnote and nothing more. Revisionist history. He became a contender years after the fact when he had a resurgence of popularity from his HIT training system. Back in 1980 he was just a footnote now somehow he was better than Arnold. People can’t seperate their need to embellish his brief competitive record because they like HIT. So they make it seem like Arnold and Mentzer were rivals, when Arnold barely knew Mentzer existed most of the time. Arnolds only rivals were Sergio and Ferrigno. Mentzer just wasn’t worth noting as competition and no one would remember him if he hadn’t become an author of HIT books later in life.
Mentzer couldn’t even beat Zane or Dickerson and they were pretty small. HIT devotees want to deify their idol though so they won’t stop claiming he was the rightful winner despite the evidence. Ludicrous. Mike Mentzer places lower than he felt and spends the rest of his ‘career’ whining about it.
And another thing about Mentzer- his HIT is BS. Did he train like that? Nope. First he says train 4 days a week, then his HIT gets more minimal over the years so he can get some attention. Finally, how often did he advocate training a bodypart- once every 12 days or something? Just a pile of BS to generate money. Nothing more.
As for Arnold not being at his best is he didn’t need to be. He didn’t have to be at his best. Do you know why Arnold risked his legacy to compete one more time? Because it was a WEAK line-up. All the major contenders were gone like Sergio, Ferrigno and Nubret and all Arnold had to do was beat a bunch of B-Listers who were half his size. None of them could be a dominate Mr Olympia they were just keeping the seat warm until a guy like Haney showed up.
Zane beat Mentzer at the 79 Olympia but both guys were pretty small, and in 1980 Mentzer finished a distant 5th while Zane got 3rd. There were a lot of guys in the contest but they were all B-list or C-list in some cases so stacked doesn’t mean much at all just a lot of filler. Now if an A-list guy like Sergio had of competed Arnold may not of entered. Only Samir had the potential and drive but he finished 15th in 1980. So yeah full but weak line-up at this contest.
The big guys had moved on, and the second tier guys were left or do you really think a small guy like Dickerson could have beat Sergio? Nope. Between the Arnold and Haney years was the rise of the smaller, skinnier Olympians who put more emphasis on conditioning rather than mass.
Anyway Zane was way off, Dickerson was too small and Samir was a long way from achieving his potential so none them posed a significant threat to Arnold which is why he entered and won.
And finally, people tend to believe what other people tell them about the 1980 contest, that is until they get to see the actual evidence for themselves and realise it was really was much ado about nothing. For some people it can be quite a surprise to realise that the judging wasn’t some great scandalous betrayal of everything that was good and holy like Mentzer constantly claimed in his articles up until death finally let him get over it. It’s funny how people always say how Arnold’s prestige affected the results, when all this “controversy” is due to Mentzer’s constant crying about the result! It was MENTZER who has created a hype around himself! He didn’t like Arnold’s training style, so he didn’t like Arnold. Mike just could not stop acting like a little child, very bad sport.
CBS ran out of tape?
I mean , they went strictly to Sydney to film the contest .... but yeah, Lets say they ran out of tape before the show even started ...
Are you saying those who claimed were invited to watch the footage when they were back to the US are laying ?
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH VINTAGE
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Muscle smoke and mirrors volume 3 covers the 1980 and 81 Olympias
Randy roach is a great writer both shows where fixed for sure
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Samir Bannout said that about a month out he was training with Arnold and said Arnold looked incredible. He said Arnold had some kind of shoulder pain and took a cortisone shot. This created a hormone imbalance and caused Arnold to hold onto water and lose size.
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Arnold won
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Boyer Coe - Why the 1980 Mr. Olympia was not on TV.
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Arnold won
True and brutal (for Mentzer)
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Boyer Coe - Why the 1980 Mr. Olympia was not on TV.
This is pure gold ...
Too controversial to air !!!!!
I'd trade my 78 Lada for this footage Arnold even looked nervous and thin " Imagine that , professional filmed for tv footage in full colour
Thanks Palumboism
:D
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHH Vinatge bitches
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This is pure gold ...
Too controversial to air !!!!!
I'd trade my 78 Lada for this footage Arnold even looked nervous and thin " Imagine that , professional filmed for tv footage in full colour
Thanks Palumboism
:D
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHH Vinatge bitches
I know!
I always thought that particular take was hilarious.
Imagine a bunch of suits standing around the offices of ABC wide world of sports:
"Jesus christ! We're gonna have to take a total loss on this segment. Its just too controversial to air!"
"Well, what about the 72 Olympics when terrorists kidnapped the israeli atheletes? Afterall we aired that?"
"Childs play compared to this. The public won't have it. We're done for if we show this thing!"
"What about the U.S. boycot of the Olympics? We aired that?"
"Hogwash! This is Ahhhhnuld for chris sakes! Did you see Mentzers conditioning for crying outloud? We're doomed if this thing airs!"
"Well, what should we do?
"We're gonna have to find every scrap of film and make sure it never finds the light of day! Otherwise We're out of business. It's just too controversial. "
LOLOLOL!!!! The controversy. Itd be like the Watts riots or Kent state all over again! Hahahaha!
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I know!
I always thought that particular take was hilarious.
Imagine a bunch of suits standing around the offices of ABC wide world of sports:
"Jesus christ! We're gonna have to take a total loss on this segment. Its just too controversial to air!"
"Well, what about the 72 Olympics when terrorists kidnapped the israeli atheletes? Afterall we aired that?"
"Childs play compared to this. The public won't have it. We're done for if we show this thing!"
"What about the U.S. boycot of the Olympics? We aired that?"
"Hogwash! This is Ahhhhnuld for chris sakes! Did you see Mentzers conditioning for crying outloud? We're doomed if this thing airs!"
"Well, what should we do?
"We're gonna have to find every scrap of film and make sure it never finds the light of day! Otherwise We're out of business. It's just too controversial. "
LOLOLOL!!!! The controversy. Itd be like the Watts riots or Kent state all over again! Hahahaha!
Lmao Exactly !
Like controversy does not equal Ratings anyway $$$
WoooSHhhhhhhhhh 1980 MR.O forever
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I wanna see the footage!!!
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Boyer Coe - Why the 1980 Mr. Olympia was not on TV.
Ok - yeah Like Boyer & Tinnerino were really likely front runners for winning
the Olympia.. Load of sour grapes Bollocks .
To controversial ;D :D ;D :D ;D FFS.
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Samir Bannout said that about a month out he was training with Arnold and said Arnold looked incredible. He said Arnold had some kind of shoulder pain and took a cortisone shot. This created a hormone imbalance and caused Arnold to hold onto water and lose size.
During the pre-judging you can tell Arnold held water. He was even sweating it off under the lights and toweled off. Legs weren’t getting the cuts and lower back had water. Once evening show started he was ripped.
Which was an issue, Franco was helping Arnold during prejudging by throwing Arnold towels to wipe sweat off and oil. Competitors later complained that it was unfair.
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CBS ran out of tape?
I mean , they went strictly to Sydney to film the contest .... but yeah, Lets say they ran out of tape before the show even started ...
Are you saying those who claimed were invited to watch the footage when they were back to the US are laying ?
Yep. They were lying. The footage has never been seen. It's been scrapped years ago.
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH VINTAGE
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If arnold looked thin everyone else was anorexic. Watch the comeback where he walks out on stage, its crazy how much he dwarfs everyone, then you see them from the side and his chest still sticks out further than the ones closer to the camera.
Sour grapes for sure coz of course all the other footage doesn't tell the real story only cbs does hahaha
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according to the book muscle smoke and mirrors volume 3 joe and ben weider had to have a meeting with cbs explaining what happened bodybuilding was never aired again on cbs. 1981 was even more rigged
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The CBS footage of the 80 Olympia is locked away in a vault along side the zapruder film, footage of the loch ness and video of aliens in area 51. Its guarded 24/7 under lock and key.
Can you imagine the unrest if that footage were to ever air? There'd be widespread rioting, protests, anarchy, martial law......it's just too controversial.
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The CBS footage of the 80 Olympia is locked away in a vault along side the zapruder film, footage of the loch ness and video of aliens in area 51. Its guarded 24/7 under lock and key.
Can you imagine the unrest if that footage were to ever air? There'd be widespread rioting, protests, anarchy, martial law......it's just too controversial.
You got it. Panic in the streets.
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The original footage the crowd booed supposedly (When Arnold the Cuck won). Then it was edited out, to only include cheers.
Maybe Vince B can confirm...
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I remember when I was in middle school, we bought “Too Hot for TV”. It was a VHS tape of various controversial antics that were deemed too crazy for regular TV like a Hebrew being stomped to death by an angry moose that wandered into the city. I was hoping the finals for the 1980 Olympia would make the cut, but after rewinding and rewatching several times, I realized I’d been had! $14.95 plus 9.99 S&H down the fuckin’ drain!
Edit: never mind it was a chinaman with a brutal lack of awareness. Surprising in the least. This is Anchorage, not Shanghai, bucko. This was during the non-HD tube television days, so forgive me
I mean, what kid wouldn’t want to see this when the Internet didn’t have anything like this on it at the time?
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91BuET3PfKL._AC_SY879_.jpg)
One of the comments, “GO MOOSE GO”
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Hard to believe its been 42 damn years since the 1980 Mr.O and absolutely no one has its hands on that CBS footage yet
WoooShSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Hard to believe its been 42 damn years since the 1980 Mr.O and absolutely no one has its hands on that CBS footage yet
WoooShSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Didn’t the Feds recently find it in Trump’s vault at Mar-a-Lago? Or maybe it was in Al Capone’s vault? Maybe it’s buried with Jimmy Hoffa. That’s it. Let’s go with that one.
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That Moose did a fucking Moonwalk on that dumb fuck !! ;D
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That Moose did a fucking Moonwalk on that dumb fuck !! ;D
Hell yeah he did. Kids were pelting him with snowballs earlier, so he said……
(https://c.tenor.com/_DyiLojg5l0AAAAM/fuckit-mad.gif)
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NEVER BEFORE SEEN CBS FOOTAGE REMASTERED
Streaming live for one time only ! the very same night/time as the 22 Mr.O which would you rather watch ?
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH STAY VINATGE
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42 fucking years ago and people still think this shit is relevant. Arnold was gifted the win.
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42 fucking years ago and people still think this shit is relevant. Arnold was gifted the win.
::) Was He.
That's your opinion
The Judges Opinions were the one's that Mattered & they Voted for Arnold
Who do you think the Top 6 should've Been ?
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42 fucking years ago and people still think this shit is relevant. Arnold was gifted the win.
The evidence is in Area 51
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The original footage the crowd booed supposedly (When Arnold the Cuck won). Then it was edited out, to only include cheers.
Maybe Vince B can confirm...
In the video footage we have you can see the fans cheering.
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Yea and I'm sure Basile said the booing was exaggerated and it soon turned to cheering anyway
In the video footage we have you can see the fans cheering.
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In the video footage we have you can see the fans cheering.
Even if the results were "fixed" the audience was going to be cheering/ rooting for Arnold anyway since he was the most popular bodybuilder and the surprise of the night .
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Even if the results were "fixed" the audience was going to be cheering/ rooting for Arnold anyway since he was the most popular bodybuilder and the surprise of the night .
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
back then they more so displayed the calf muscle and not the hanging hamstring/glute in the side chest
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Even if the results were "fixed" the audience was going to be cheering/ rooting for Arnold anyway since he was the most popular bodybuilder and the surprise of the night .
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Who do you think deserved to win?
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If MM had a good friend they would've smacked him across the face and told him to quit his bitching.
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Who do you think deserved to win?
Tough question.
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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I was watching 'The Comeback' on youtube, and noticed this. But I also felt Arnold looked, I dunno, kind of old and tired. Didn't have that enthusiasm from before. Which I guess could be attributed to his focus on Hollywood?
Agreed about Arnold.
I think it was a bit of anxiety/uncertainty. To begin he fucked up by taking cortisone shots which dulled his condition. So he knew he fucked up.
Two- back in the 70's Arnold played his little gags and mind tricks and it seemed like everyone was in on the joke. And everybody fucked with every one else. But the new crop weren't having that. They didn't take his bullshit in good humor. Those guys like Mentzer, Zane, Walker got really pissed at Arnold for entering at the last minute and then arguing about the weight groups. They definitely didn’t have a sense of humor about it and weren't just gonna laugh it off.
Three the show was more competitive. A lot of guys were vying for the top spot and the prize money increased. Instead of having to beat 1 or 2 people he had to beat 15 guys. 4 or 5 were in as good if not better condition than he was.
So all these things sapped him of his characteristic confidence. Most of all knowing he sabotaged his chances by fucking up with cortisone must've weighed on him. Guys with Arnolds drive are often hardest on themselves. Im sure Arnold was kicking himself backstage.
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Arnold won, fair and square
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Arnold won, fair and square
I agree. He had his flaws but so did everyone else. He wasn't his best ever but he didn't have to be. He only had to be better than the others onstage.
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No matter what, for some (and it is understandable) Arnold can really only compete with Arnold. But he was the best that day. Prime Arnold is to me, vastly superior to anyone before or since his time. Unless Joseph gives in and his father gives him the keys, we will not see anyone come close to him.
For those that think Arnold should have lost?
Take solace in the fact that he is now a worthless cuck. ;D
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No matter what, for some (and it is understandable) Arnold can really only compete with Arnold. But he was the best that day. Prime Arnold is to me, vastly superior to anyone before or since his time. Unless Joseph gives in and his father gives him the keys, we will not see anyone come close to him.
For those that think Arnold should have lost?
Take solace in the fact that he is now a worthless cuck. ;D
If only Mentzer was alive to see it.
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Re: Missing 1980 Olympia footage
Roll that beautiful bean footage
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Lots of scenes there that have nothing to do with 1980.
But interesting complain from Mentzer.
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The best summary of this Olympia is that Arnold at ~80% of his best is still better than everyone at ~90-100% of their best in 1980. He didn't have to beat/match the 1970-75 Arnold, he just had to beat the 1980 lineup.
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The best summary of this Olympia is that Arnold at ~80% of his best is still better than everyone at ~90-100% of their best in 1980. He didn't have to beat/match the 1970-75 Arnold, he just had to beat the 1980 lineup.
Yep, if he showed up as good as '75 Mentzer wouldn't have even gotten on stage.
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And to think that in his own huge Ecyclopedia, Arnold only touch the 1980 mr.O briefly ...one page at most
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHH the IRONY
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WooSHHHHHHHHHHH
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Arnold is crushing mr heavy duty here.
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Roger Walkers Nipple should have won...
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Mentzer said in one of those videos that Arnold was doing lines of coke all day long. Arnold never struck me as the recreational drug user type. Certainly not someone feeding a habit to the point where he's doing lines during a contest. But being the social animal he was I can see him indulging at a Hollywood party.
Also ironic a meth addict calling him a coke head.
I can picture Mentzer hallucinating , having nightmares in deep meth-induced psychosis having a vision of Arnold back stage in Sydney , doing lines of cocaine with all the judges and Ben and Joe Weider, Paul Graham, Franco, Jusup, Waller,and Samir "Mike, if you want to get lean for a show you're supposed to use coc-CAINE not coca-COLA" then everyone bursting into laughter. A furious Mentzer pops another dexadrine and washes it down with a cup of his own urine.
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Mentzer said in one of those videos that Arnold was doing lines of coke all day long. Arnold never struck me as the recreational drug user type. Certainly not someone feeding a habit to the point where he's doing lines during a contest. But being the social animal he was I can see him indulging at a Hollywood party.
Also ironic a meth addict calling him a coke head.
I can picture Mentzer hallucinating , having nightmares in deep meth-induced psychosis having a vision of Arnold back stage in Sydney , doing lines of cocaine with all the judges and Ben and Joe Weider, Paul Graham, Franco, Jusup, Waller,and Samir "Mike, if you want to get lean for a show you're supposed to use coc-CAINE not coca-COLA" then everyone bursting into laughter. A furious Mentzer pops another dexadrine and washes it down with a cup of his own urine.
This made me laugh pretty hard
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Mentzer said in one of those videos that Arnold was doing lines of coke all day long. Arnold never struck me as the recreational drug user type. Certainly not someone feeding a habit to the point where he's doing lines during a contest. But being the social animal he was I can see him indulging at a Hollywood party.
Also ironic a meth addict calling him a coke head.
I can picture Mentzer hallucinating , having nightmares in deep meth-induced psychosis having a vision of Arnold back stage in Sydney , doing lines of cocaine with all the judges and Ben and Joe Weider, Paul Graham, Franco, Jusup, Waller,and Samir "Mike, if you want to get lean for a show you're supposed to use coc-CAINE not coca-COLA" then everyone bursting into laughter. A furious Mentzer pops another dexadrine and washes it down with a cup of his own urine.
Funny how nobody mentions Arnold's cocaine use ....... Mentzer became famous by trashing Arnold in his seminars ......
Only one encounter/meeting with Arnold was enough to wipe Mentzer out of the Stage for good .
Mentzer needed professional help right after and never got it .
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Lots of scenes there that have nothing to do with 1980.
But interesting complain from Mentzer.
Mentzer sounding pretty rational to me there.
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Arnold smoked the bong with chong when it was legal, never heard of him doing coke. Mentzer was mentally destroyed by him so much he never recovered, that's pretty crazy
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Arnold smoked the bong with chong when it was legal, never heard of him doing coke. Mentzer was mentally destroyed by him so much he never recovered, that's pretty crazy
Later Mike had to go begging Arnold for money to pay his bills. It must have been Hell to go crawling to his nemesis for help after years of melting down over him.
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Later Mike had to go begging Arnold for money to pay his bills. It must have been Hell to go crawling to his nemesis for help after years of melting down over him.
Did he really !! WTF - That must've Made Him more mentally unstable
Why Didn't uncle Joe help him out ?
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8)
That last shot of Zane reminded me another shot I saw long, long ago...🤔
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42 fucking years ago and people still think this shit is relevant. Arnold was gifted the win.
Funny thing is, just this week I saw a new podcast somewhere with John Hansen and Samir Bannout as guests, and Samir was adamant that he thought that about Arnold
It had plenty of views too, so maybe some people just like to retreat into history/nostalgia rather than face the shit-show going on in the World at the moment...? I mean, I can be as guilty of avoiding the news some days as anyone - and I wear rose-tinted glasses, sonny... ;D
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Funny thing is, just this week I saw a new podcast somewhere with John Hansen and Samir Bannout as guests, and Samir was adamant that he thought that about Arnold
It had plenty of views too, so maybe some people just like to retreat into history/nostalgia rather than face the shit-show going on in the World at the moment...? I mean, I can be as guilty of avoiding the news some days as anyone - and I wear rose-tinted glasses, sonny... ;D
Funnier thing is that from 1980 to the year 2000 Samir said Arnold was the better man in Sidney despite not being 100% ...
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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That last shot of Zane reminded me another shot I saw long, long ago...🤔
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=1393317;image)
Sure, if you use your bare eyes alone the guy on the right looks better. But according to the FFMI calculator the guy on the left looks way, way better.
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42 fucking years ago and people still think this shit is relevant. Arnold was gifted the win.
After this January 6th business is cleared up I expect a full blown inquiry into the events surrounding the 1980 Olympia.
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After this January 6th business is cleared up I expect a full blown inquiry into the events surrounding the 1980 Olympia.
I've forgotten who Won - can you remind me & the Mentzer nut Huggers
Plz Who it Was.
:D ;D :D
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After this January 6th business is cleared up I expect a full blown inquiry into the events surrounding the 1980 Olympia.
The US government has the January 6th committee.
Getbig has the August 6th committee.
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The US government has the January 6th committee.
Getbig has the August 6th committee.
Set it up! ;D
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After this January 6th business is cleared up I expect a full blown inquiry into the events surrounding the 1980 Olympia.
;D Sitting at my dining room table at 11:30 at night giggling.
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Did he really !! WTF - That must've Made Him more mentally unstable
Why Didn't uncle Joe help him out ?
I read it here on Getbig a few years ago. I can't remember who it was who posted it.
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Bannout also mentioned how arnold wasn't the arnold of before, totally irrelevant and these guys don't seem to understand that
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Bannout also mentioned how arnold wasn't the arnold of before, totally irrelevant and these guys don't seem to understand that
Check out Wayne Gallasch Interview @49:20 about 1980 Mr Olympia...
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I read it here on Getbig a few years ago. I can't remember who it was who posted it.
I'm pretty sure Arnold offered to help....pay his rent or something. I don't know that Mentzer asked him for help- that wouldn't be very 'Randian' of him to ask another man for a handout. :D
But I remember just before Mikes death or maybe just after a story circulated where Arnold reached out to Mike when Ray went on dialysis and offered to help in some way.
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I'm pretty sure Arnold offered to help....pay his rent or something. I don't know that Mentzer asked him for help- that wouldn't be very 'Randian' of him to ask another man for a handout. :D
But I remember just before Mikes death or maybe just after a story circulated where Arnold reached out to Mike when Ray went on dialysis and offered to help in some way.
If True - That was very magnanimous of Arnold
And show's he was the Bigger / Better Man.
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I'm sure it was Ray who said Arnold reached out to help him.
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I'm pretty sure Arnold offered to help....pay his rent or something. I don't know that Mentzer asked him for help- that wouldn't be very 'Randian' of him to ask another man for a handout. :D
But I remember just before Mikes death or maybe just after a story circulated where Arnold reached out to Mike when Ray went on dialysis and offered to help in some way.
Q. Wait a second, Mike and Arnold? Everyone knows about controversial placing at 1980 Mr. Olympia. Did Mike and Arnold finally make peace?
A. A few months ago, Arnold's assistant emailed Mike with a message from Arnold. Arnold was concerned about Ray's health conditions and tried to offer help. For those of you who don't know, Ray had a severe kidney problem. Arnold even wanted to come over to Ray's apartment and offer help personally. At some point Mike spoke to Arnold over the phone and was very touched by Arnold's kindness and concerns. Despite differences of opinions in the past, Mike always stated that Arnold was the greatest bodybuilder of all time and his contributions to the sport are enormous. During the shoot Mike has told me that he would like to have a reunion with Arnold on this videotape.
https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/valinter.htm
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If True - That was very magnanimous of Arnold
And show's he was the Bigger / Better Man.
Or Arnold did it to prove he was superior. Remember at the Arnold Classic when Arnold asked Lou how his autograph signings were going? This was when he was governor of California and Lou was charging $20 for a picture. Arnold was actually trolling the Hell out of him.
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Or Arnold did it to prove he was superior. Remember at the Arnold Classic when Arnold asked Lou how his autograph signings were going? This was when he was governor of California and Lou was charging $20 for a picture. Arnold was actually trolling the Hell out of him.
“DVDs?”
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Or Arnold did it to prove he was superior. Remember at the Arnold Classic when Arnold asked Lou how his autograph signings were going? This was when he was governor of California and Lou was charging $20 for a picture. Arnold was actually trolling the Hell out of him.
Yeah could be - Only Not if he helped him Financially though.
have to say Superior or Not it still a Good Thing to Do.
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Everyone that knows arnold says he's the most generous guy and loves to give back, he doesn't forget anyone on his journey upwards. The persona back in the day was part of his drive to succeed but alot was also a persona to create controversy and attention to create his brand. For example we know he did actually go to his dads funeral.
From the books I've read Arnold always liked Lou but also knew he was never a threat in competition and knows he's very insecure. A comment from a few years back someone said to Arnold, lou says he's more muscular then you now. Arnold said well let him have that, he needs that more than I do right now.
Regarding Mentzer he never hated him but found it easy to wind him up, where as Mike took everything so seriously Arnold would always see the funny side of what he's doing but while giving 100%. Plus he always had this mindset of moving forward, not regretting and not looking back. Some people like Mentzer let things eat them up and destroy them.
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“DVDs?”
Ha ha, that clip was so f'ing funny. Just trolls Lou so easily and big Louie just never even picked up on it.
Everyone that knows arnold says he's the most generous guy and loves to give back, he doesn't forget anyone on his journey upwards. The persona back in the day was part of his drive to succeed but alot was also a persona to create controversy and attention to create his brand. For example we know he did actually go to his dads funeral.
From the books I've read Arnold always liked Lou but also knew he was never a threat in competition and knows he's very insecure. A comment from a few years back someone said to Arnold, lou says he's more muscular then you now. Arnold said well let him have that, he needs that more than I do right now.
Regarding Mentzer he never hated him but found it easy to wind him up, where as Mike took everything so seriously Arnold would always see the funny side of what he's doing but while giving 100%. Plus he always had this mindset of moving forward, not regretting and not looking back. Some people like Mentzer let things eat them up and destroy them.
Really good take.
Also the Gallaach interview posted above is probably the most objective analysis I've heard of 1980. A very realistic and reasonable take.
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Ha ha, that clip was so f'ing funny. Just trolls Lou so easily and big Louie just never even picked up on it.
Really good take.
Also the Gallaach interview posted above is probably the most objective analysis I've heard of 1980. A very realistic and reasonable take.
Agreed, Gallaach analysis was interesting.
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Yeah could be - Only Not if he helped him Financially though.
have to say Superior or Not it still a Good Thing to Do.
Exactly.
If I recall correctly Ray himself told many of the bodybuilders close friends of the era. That Arnold was concerned and offered help.
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“DVDs?”
Yeah, that was it.
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Ha ha, that clip was so f'ing funny. Just trolls Lou so easily and big Louie just never even picked up on it.
Really good take.
Also the Gallaach interview posted above is probably the most objective analysis I've heard of 1980. A very realistic and reasonable take.
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Most competitors were saying that Arnold wasn't even top 5
However, Gallaach has a good point, not the same competing against Arnold and flexing next to him , than having the best seat on the audience and watch the entire contest unfold right in front of you.
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Anyone have the Arnold asking Lou about the DVD sales Clip
😂🤣😂
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Anyone have the Arnold asking Lou about the DVD sales Clip
😂🤣😂
I’ve been meaning to find it, and I just did. Enjoy!
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I’ve been meaning to find it, and I just did. Enjoy!
Good Man
Thanks 🙏🏻
Great viewing entertainment. 😀
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I was looking for the vid and saw a few clips of Arnold running into Lou at various expos. And each time Lou eagerly awaits Arnold then immediately bombards Arnokd, talking as fast as he can, trying to make the most of his limited time with Arnold. It's kind of pathetic; after all these years still pining for his attention and seeking his approval.
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I was looking for the vid and saw a few clips of Arnold running into Lou at various expos. And each time Lou eagerly awaits Arnold then immediately bombards Arnokd, talking as fast as he can, trying to make the most of his limited time with Arnold. It's kind of pathetic; after all these years still pining for his attention and seeking his approval.
Lmao! So brutal yet true! Would rofl if an overly eager Lou in his ready to pounce position gets bumped by security and his hearing aid batteries simultaneously fall out creating a sudden panic. Lou would then play it off and try to carry a conversation with Arnold without comprehending a single word while Arnold just keeps repeating, “What did you say, Lou?”
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Lmao! So brutal yet true! Would rofl if an overly eager Lou in his ready to pounce position gets bumped by security and his hearing aid batteries simultaneously fall out creating a sudden panic. Lou would then play it off and try to carry a conversation with Arnold without comprehending a single word while Arnold just keeps repeating, “What did you say, Lou?”
Arnold could just move his lips pretending to talk...
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I wonder what exactly they said.
This board really takes Lou to task; fucking gold..
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I took a lot of photos of the 1980 Mr Olympia which was in Sydney. During the finals I was shooting colour slides and got a mate in the row in front of me
to take a video. Would you believe most of that was ruined because he got so excited he started stamping his feet. I haven't looked at it to see if I
recorded the booing at the end. This mate was cheering for Roger Walker who made the finals and thus all the excitement. What a shame
because I was in a great position in the middle of the Concert Hall and we would have had a good view of what happened.
Stop it! Arnold was always the king! He was better then every single one of those meatheads. Without him noone would even give a shit about it...also a fact!
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I’ve been meaning to find it, and I just did. Enjoy!
Pure gold!
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Do you think Arnold asks "pictures, dvd's" as he knows thats all he's ever gonna have or do you think he's asking coz he might have legitimately bought something new to the table like a protein bar or supplement...
I'm surprised Lou has managed to run a stall for so long at the festival flogging that 30 year old movie.
Pure gold!
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Do you think Arnold asks "pictures, dvd's" as he knows thats all he's ever gonna have or do you think he's asking coz he might have legitimately bought something new to the table like a protein bar or supplement...
I'm surprised Lou has managed to run a stall for so long at the festival flogging that 30 year old movie.
Arnold owning him just like in Pumping Iron.
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Never released footage? Just an urban myth. Nothing more. Besides, even if it did exist what is it going to prove? Arnold won. That's it. This vid destroys the myth that mentzer had any chance of beating Arnold.
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Never released footage? Just an urban myth. Nothing more. Besides, even if it did exist what is it going to prove? Arnold won. That's it. This vid destroys the myth that mentzer had any chance of beating Arnold.
.... Arnolds is morphed there. The arm gives it away.
Also cherrypicked 2 shots. Mentzer looked better in most shots
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.... Arnolds is morphed there. The arm gives it away.
Also cherrypicked 2 shots. Mentzer looked better in most shots
FFS Mike couldn't even place higher than that bag of smashed arseholes Dickinhisbum.
Mike placed 5th - why not compare Mike to 10th place finisher maybe he thought he should've placed 5th.
Enough of this nonsense Mike wasn't good enough to place higher let alone 1st.
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Mentzer looks tiny next to Arnold.
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Defintely not morphed, looks exactly the same as in the footage its from. Mentzer looks like a child next to Arnold and was supposedly heavier. Arnold must literally have hollow bones if that's the case.
.... Arnolds is morphed there. The arm gives it away.
Also cherrypicked 2 shots. Mentzer looked better in most shots
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Defintely not morphed, looks exactly the same as in the footage its from. Mentzer looks like a child next to Arnold and was supposedly heavier. Arnold must literally have hollow bones if that's the case.
Mentzer seemed one of those big boned, thick, blocky guys, had a heavy lower body with a fat ass and bloated stomach. Still though i don't see how he could've been heavier than Arnold.
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Crazy how big his chest and arms still were at that lighter weight.
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Crazy how big his chest and arms still were at that lighter weight.
Exactly. It's funny when the Arnold haters state that he was not in great shape or he was too light. Arnold in 1980 was at his most leanest ever. Probably his best shape ever.
Mentzer fans be like " but..but..but..Arnie's legs"
His legs were diced and no worse than all the other competitors apart from Platz
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Legs don't look small here and look at the separation and how high up it goes.
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according to the book muscle smoke and mirrors volume 3 joe and ben weider had to have a meeting with cbs explaining what happened bodybuilding was never aired again on cbs. 1981 was even more rigged
The Weiders did not want CBS to air that footage even after all the time and money wasted from crew...... that pretty much was the end of Bodybuilding on National tv,
Imagine the amount of footage, photos, compromising material sitting in the Weiders archives that will never see the light of day now they're both deceased.
That 1980 Mr O. CBS footage can mean a lot of $$$$$$ on the right hands even after 40 plus years
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The Weiders did not want CBS to air that footage even after all the time and money wasted from crew...... that pretty much was the end of Bodybuilding on National tv,
Imagine the amount of footage, photos, compromising material sitting in the Weiders archives that will never see the light of day now they're both deceased.
That 1980 Mr O. CBS footage can mean a lot of $$$$$$ on the right hands even after 40 plus years
More conspiracy clap trap.
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More conspiracy clap trap.
True. Its a baseless argument. CBS probably sent crews to multiple events that day and eliminated most of them from their line-up. But nobody is sitting around talking about why CBS decided not to air the 1980 underwater basket weaving championships, or the New Zealand Bad Minton quarter finals. They got one winner- probably a major professional sports league game or perhaps the PBL and decided to air it instead of this other garbage based on viewership.
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True. Its a baseless argument. CBS probably sent crews to multiple events that day and eliminated most of them from their line-up. But nobody is sitting around talking about why CBS decided not to air the 1980 underwater basket weaving championships, or the New Zealand Bad Minton quarter finals. They got one winner- probably a major professional sports league game or perhaps the PBL and decided to air it instead of this other garbage based on viewership.
Fuck, are there any copies available to download?
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Fuck, are there any copies available to download?
Hell no! It was just too controversial. If you think the O was rigged, the UWBC was down right criminal.
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As others have pointed out, it's likely an urban legend about CBS. This is the documentary film that was shot. It was a documentary that Arnold and his friend Paul Graham produced. Go to the end and read the credits. Graham produced it, and they had their own director, editors and a whole crew, including the credit "additional cameras on contest night", which means they didn't get the footage from CBS, they shot it themselves. No mention of CBS anywhere. And full access, including backstage. Very clear that Graham and Arnold had exclusive rights to shoot the 1980 Olympia and made this documentary. CBS was not involved.
The legend started when Arnold created the gimmick that he was going there to "do commentary" and then at the last second entered. Typical Arnold gimmick.
Enjoy the actual film.
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As others have pointed out, it's likely an urban legend about CBS. This is the documentary film that was shot. It was a documentary that Arnold and his friend Paul Graham produced. Go to the end and read the credits. Graham produced it, and they had their own director, editors and a whole crew, including the credit "additional cameras on contest night", which means they didn't get the footage from CBS, they shot it themselves. No mention of CBS anywhere. And full access, including backstage. Very clear that Graham and Arnold had exclusive rights to shoot the 1980 Olympia and made this documentary. CBS was not involved.
The legend started when Arnold created the gimmick that he was going there to "do commentary" and then at the last second entered. Typical Arnold gimmick.
Enjoy the actual film.
Great film. Arnold the clear winner here.
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Great film. Arnold the clear winner here.
Clear winner ..I have to agree
I just don't understand why if this is the greatest comeback in BB history, most talk about contest; why Arnold on his 800 pages encyclopedia only touches that subject briefly, just one damn page!!!!!! are you F kidding ? that tells you right there its a chapter he either regrets or not so proud about it .
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Clear winner ..I have to agree
I just don't understand why if this is the greatest comeback in BB history, most talk about contest; why Arnold on his 800 pages encyclopedia only touches that subject briefly, just one damn page!!!!!! are you F kidding ? that tells you right there its a chapter he either regrets or not so proud about it .
Because it wasn't a big deal at the time. It was only later when crybabies like mentzer and coe harked on about the 1980 contest being a fix because they didn't like Arnold.
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Because it wasn't a big deal at the time. It was only later when crybabies like mentzer and coe harked on about the 1980 contest being a fix because they didn't like Arnold.
Yes, controversy came out years later ,so it did the Encyclopedia (new edition) came out 1999....
However I have to correct myself ,Arnold only talks 1980 Mr.O in one page in his Total Recall: My Unbelievably True Life
another gigantic book Which was released some 10 years ago .
See Arnold Run the movie by Roland Kickinger and Bodybuilding greatest MC Bob Chick, is mainly focused on 1980 mr.O ..
Arnold did not like the movie at all, as they did not mention his kids and role as loving father" ...and hated the attention given to 1980 mr.O "....... I hope one day he can seat down and open up about the whole October 4 1980 .
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Look at the quality in that last shot, who cares he was down from his best, he didn't need his best for this line-up
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Look at the quality in that last shot, who cares he was down from his best, he didn't need his best for this line-up
Dead on.
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Mentzer looks tiny next to Arnold.
This .
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In 1980 he was ripped,lean beyond belief . better muscle separation compared to his 1970's form .
The CBS footage remastered, HQ, or better yet Blu Ray will be worth the 35 years wait.
TRUST ME
43 years now ! maybe is time for Getbiggers start considering throwing the towel on that remastered never seen by fans CBS footage
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As others have pointed out, it's likely an urban legend about CBS. This is the documentary film that was shot. It was a documentary that Arnold and his friend Paul Graham produced. Go to the end and read the credits. Graham produced it, and they had their own director, editors and a whole crew, including the credit "additional cameras on contest night", which means they didn't get the footage from CBS, they shot it themselves. No mention of CBS anywhere. And full access, including backstage. Very clear that Graham and Arnold had exclusive rights to shoot the 1980 Olympia and made this documentary. CBS was not involved.
The legend started when Arnold created the gimmick that he was going there to "do commentary" and then at the last second entered. Typical Arnold gimmick.
Enjoy the actual film.
Really cool.
Never seen that before.
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Really cool.
Never seen that before.
I have the original VHS tape - music has been changed in that one posted.
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Mike was a genius ….
Until October 4th 1980.
Woshhhhh Beyeke !!!!!
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Mike was a genius ….
Until October 4th 1980.
Woshhhhh Beyeke !!!!!
Compete before you talk shit you fucking retard
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Compete before you talk shit you fucking retard
I have competed , won many times, and I’m sorry to hurt your feelings.
Wooshhhhhhh O thany
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what about in the contests mike did?
want a pic of my balls to compete with as well?
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what about in the contests mike did?
want a pic of my balls to compete with as well?
Are you meaning to say that Mike should have won the O in 1980 and live a healthy happy life ever after ?
If so , you have come to the right thread.
Woshhhhh Rock me Amadeus.
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Are you meaning to say that Mike should have won the O in 1980 and live a heathy happy life ever after ?
If so , you have come to the right thread.
Woshhhhh Rock me Amadeus.
to be fair more should have won not just him
happily ever after oh to be in the 70s. i would certainly be alot less distressed if in that time
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to be fair more should have won not just him
happily ever after oh to be in the 70s
The thread is about the never before seen footage of the 1980 mr.O and the controversy behind it.
Thanks for the compliments though.
Wooshhhhh TaNaKa.
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what complimemts?
i'm not a fucking jackass who goes around talking shit like you
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what complimemts?
i'm not a fucking jackass who goes around talking shit like you
And the last time you had your Blood pressure checked was ?
Wooshhhhh. The results are in.
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pretty good actually :)
and life long without any "whoooooshing" for me
i'm here to put annoying douchebag losers in their place
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An image worth a thousand words.....
Arnold looking like he knows he got another Sandow in the bag despite being away for so long , while Mentzer looks worried like he's in trouble ...
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An image worth a thousand words.....
Arnold looking like he knows he got another Sandow in the bag despite being away for so long , while Mentzer looks worried like he's in trouble ...
Mentzer's gut sticking out by miles. No wonder he looked worried. He knew he couldn't beat a superior bodybuilder like Arnold. Mentzer couldn't even beat Zane.
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An image worth a thousand words.....
Arnold looking like he knows he got another Sandow in the bag despite being away for so long , while Mentzer looks worried like he's in trouble ...
They all look worried.
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(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=611418;image)
Rear double biceps ( from the front and not turtle shelf gut )
enjoy because the IFBB ran out of that type of bodybuilders in the open division long ago.
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH The Oak
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There aren't many people in that crowd. It looks like the Mr. O really has gotten much bigger over the years.
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There aren't many people in that crowd. It looks like the Mr. O really has gotten much bigger over the years.
Not bad for a contest held overseas 43 years ago though .
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They all look worried.
By the call outs & where they were positioned on stage in them
They'd have a good idea where they likely going to place
Mike clearly knew he was not in the top 3.
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Not bad for a contest held overseas 43 years ago though .
True. In the US high school basketball games have more fans.
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There aren't many people in that crowd. It looks like the Mr. O really has gotten much bigger over the years.
There are more people on Getbig talking about it decades later than there were in the crowd. :D
I went to a pro bodybuilding show once where only the auditorium was huge, but only about fifteen percent full. All the people who payed for their tickets were in the nose bleed seats where you could barely see. All the family members who got free tickets were right up front. there were about twenty rows of seats in between these groups that were empty. When men's bodybuilding started, Bob told all the people sitting in the back to come up front. This is the state of bodybuilding today.
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There are more people on Getbig talking about it decades later than there were in the crowd. :D
I went to a pro bodybuilding show once where only the auditorium was huge, but only about fifteen percent full. All the people who payed for their tickets were in the nose bleed seats where you could barely see. All the family members who got free tickets were right up front. there were about twenty rows of seats in between these groups that were empty. When men's bodybuilding started, Bob told all the people sitting in the back to come up front. This is the state of bodybuilding today.
Bob Hoffman?
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Not to shabby to win ::)
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Bob Hoffman?
Bob Cicherillo
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Bob Cicherillo
Gotcha.
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Mike "My goal is to win the 1980 Olympia with a perfect score and become the face of bodybuilding for the entire decade like you did in the mid 70's "
Arnold " Is good to have goals "
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 1979
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You can trash Mike all you want ...but prior October 4th 1980 everyone in the indusrty looked up to him and wanted to look or at least be as articulated as he was (gut aside) .
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHh Heavy Duty
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Mike "My goal is to win the 1980 Olympia with a perfect score and become the face of bodybuilding for the entire decade like you did in the mid 70's "
Arnold " Is good to have goals "
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 1979
I'll bet Arnold fuck hundreds of women during his time off bodybuilding (1975 to 80). That pic shows a pussy slayer right there.
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I'll bet Arnold fuck hundreds of women during his time off bodybuilding (1975 to 80). That pic shows a pussy slayer right there.
This
The David Cassidy hair ( was the thing for chicks in those days ) Arnold being retired from BB,was the king of the beach tall lean and Barracuda mode with no "me too movement " in sight ...
You can hate the guy .... but Arnold was a total pussy wreck machine
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHh
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This
The David Cassidy hair ( was the thing for chicks in those days ) Arnold being retired from BB,was the king of the beach tall lean and Barracuda mode with no "me too movement " in sight ...
You can hate the guy .... but Arnold was a total pussy wreck machine
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHh
The 70's were great.
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Picture taken days before October 4th 1980.
"Mike and his gut will be in deep trouble "
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BARRACUDA MODE
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Despite arnolds quads in some shots looking a bit slender i really think Arnold looked great in 80, everything still popped, lean and dry.
Picture taken days before October 4th 1980.
"Mike and his gut will be in deep trouble "
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BARRACUDA MODE
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Despite arnolds quads in some shots looking a bit slender i really think Arnold looked great in 80, everything still popped, lean and dry.
He did look great. People only think otherwise because of stories they've heard about how Arnold shouldn't have won.
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He did look great. People only think otherwise because of stories they've heard about how Arnold shouldn't have won.
Specially those days/weeks leading to the contest ....
footage of him training at Golds has to be a priceless
Woooshhhhhhhhhhh
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Specially those days/weeks leading to the contest ....
footage of him training at Golds has to be a priceless
Woooshhhhhhhhhhh
The outside photos especially.
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Quads look decent in these shots, nicely separated.
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Arnold was superior against mentzer. It's not even a debate.
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WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 1979
Historic moment captured on film: First ever documented proof of one bodybuilder pointing at another while shaking hands. - circa 1979
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Arnold was superior against mentzer. It's not even a debate.
Not to the Mentzer fanboys.
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Mike Cried because Arnold placed ahead of him .....
but he had no problem with Dennis placing behind him .
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Unfortunatelly Mike let the outcome of the 1980 Mr Olympia affected the rest of his life and happiness level.
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHH SYDNEY
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unfortunately Mike let the outcome of the 1980 Mr Olympia effect the rest of his life and his happiness level.
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHH SYDNEY
Don't know why. He was never going to win the olympia. Someone should have taken mike aside and gave him a good slap in the face to awake him from his delusions of granduer.
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Don't know why. He was never going to win the olympia. Someone should have taken mike aside and gave him a good slap in the face to awake him from his delusions of granduer.
He was mentally ill.
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He was mentally ill.
He felt betrayed by the Master blaster, from October 4th on ......
WoooSHHHHHHHHHH
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He felt betrayed by the Master blaster, from October 4th on ......
WoooSHHHHHHHHHH
Why?
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Why?
Mike felt robbed by not winning the O so he complained directly to Joe , Joe told him to discuss the matter with Ben
Then Joe himself told Ben not to answer any phone calls from Mentzer .
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHH
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They all thought Mike was going to be the face of Bodybuilding in the 80's .... then October 4th, 1980 Mr.O happened .
WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH #1980MR.O
October 4th should be a Bodybuilding holiday .
WooSHH
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Mike felt robbed by not winning the O so he complained directly to Joe , Joe told him to discuss the matter with Ben
Then Joe himself told Ben not to answer any phone calls from Mentzer .
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHH
Neither Ben nor Joe was judging the contest. Mentzer was a big baby.
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Mike felt robbed by not winning the O so he complained directly to Joe , Joe told him to discuss the matter with Ben
Then Joe himself told Ben not to answer any phone calls from Mentzer .
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHH
Because they knew Mentzer was a fruitloop.
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Because they knew Mentzer was a fruitloop.
I wonder during what time became obvious plus the drug recreational use
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH The 4th
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Mentzer had the rent taken care of by a Gaylord, was paid for “ articles” appearances and even donations.
Think about it , in his early 30s living as a full time bodybuilder star with no responsibilities or real job; perceived as some king of respectful guru , intelectual Alpha within the industry …….. yet he was complaining
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Did Mike was really robbed the Sandow ?
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHH October 4th 1980
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Amphetamines and an 800 calorie diet warped his brain.
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Amphetamines and an 800 calorie diet warped his brain.
Amazing how out of shape he was in his 40's. Looked like he didn't do a push up or a walk around the block for decades. I wonder if his drug use wrecked him.
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Amazing how out of shape he was in his 40's. Looked like he didn't do a push up or a walk around the block for decades. I wonder if his drug use wrecked him.
He was never a true bodybuilder. He got more lazy as he got older by working out less and less until he gave up on bodybuilding altogether. Like he gave up college, the Airforce, writing for Weider. In the end he gave up on life altogether. The guy was a failure.
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He was never a true bodybuilder. He got more lazy as he got older by working out less and less until he gave up on bodybuilding altogether. Like he gave up college, the Airforce, writing for Weider. In the end he gave up on life altogether. The guy was a failure.
It's funny to think about this then listen to John Little who's still bleating about Mike, daily, decades after his death . I mean it's embarrassing how much he crows about Mike to this day..fucking weirdo.
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He was never a true bodybuilder. He got more lazy as he got older by working out less and less until he gave up on bodybuilding altogether. Like he gave up college, the Airforce, writing for Weider. In the end he gave up on life altogether. The guy was a failure.
This^ I don't think he ever enjoyed training but was using it as a means to an end. No true bodybuilder would just give up training for the rest of their lives. We are addicts to this shit.
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He was never a true bodybuilder. He got more lazy as he got older by working out less and less until he gave up on bodybuilding altogether. Like he gave up college, the Airforce, writing for Weider. In the end he gave up on life altogether. The guy was a failure.
leave Brian out of this
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This^ I don't think he ever enjoyed training but was using it as a means to an end. No true bodybuilder would just give up training for the rest of their lives. We are addicts to this shit.
Exactly. He never enjoyed training. The hit cult are the same, they don't like training. They want a short cut and mentzer gave it to them by lying to these saps that hit would deliver the best results by doing little as possible. They're just lazy with no passion for bodybuilding.
Yates was the same. He never enjoyed training but used it as a means to an end. Compare him to Coleman who just loved to train. He just had such passion for training. Just like Arnold did. Ever noticed the volume guys enjoyed their training and had fun with it while the hit guys looked miserable and grouchy? All that going to failure stressed out their central nervous systems making them hate their training.
Also consider that both mentzer and Yates took large dosages of drugs to make up for the lack of volume in their training.
Yates now does yoga. Yoga...😆. Real bodybuilders keep on training. Arnold, Serge, Lou, Danny, Robby, Frank, etc All kept on training into their golden years because they enjoyed it.
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It's funny to think about this then listen to John Little who's still bleating about Mike, daily, decades after his death . I mean it's embarrassing how much he crows about Mike to this day..fucking weirdo.
Little is weird. Try to debate him and he blocks you. Same with John Heart. They're just out to make money off mentzer's name. That is all.
All hit types are weird.
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Little is weird. Try to debate him and he blocks you. Same with John Heart. They're just out to make money off mentzer's name. That is all.
All hit types are weird.
I think I was blocked from his 1st video. 8) Strange how they consider themselves so intelligent and logical but fear defending their position.
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This^ I don't think he ever enjoyed training but was using it as a means to an end. No true bodybuilder would just give up training for the rest of their lives. We are addicts to this shit.
Yup.
Arnold never enjoyed working out or the "pump" ......
Unlike Ronnie Coleman who enjoys working out to this day .
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Mr Heavy duty lives
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I think I was blocked from his 1st video. 8) Strange how they consider themselves so intelligent and logical but fear defending their position.
Because if you refute their caims, which is easy, they go straight into meltdown as you're exposing their BS. Heart is selling courses of hit, which are worthless, and Little is part of the mentzer estate which means he still makes money off the books he had written about mentzer, which are equally worthless. Ask them both to provide evidence of hit actually working and they deflect or point to two only known bodybuilders to use hit. Yates and mentzer. That's it. 5 decades of hit and they can only point to two drug monsters as so called successes of hit. Pathetic.
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He was never a true bodybuilder. He got more lazy as he got older by working out less and less until he gave up on bodybuilding altogether. Like he gave up college, the Airforce, writing for Weider. In the end he gave up on life altogether. The guy was a failure.
Good thing he was never a true bodybuilder and was a failure otherwise he would have taken the Sandow 100 times
Mike would have offed himself in 1985 rather than 2001
WooooSHHHHH Barracuda mode
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John Heart, still trying desperately, and failing, to be right. If hit doesn't effect the cns, which it does, then why do hitters need so much time off from the gym? Cns fatigue.
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Because if you refute their caims, which is easy, they go straight into meltdown as you're exposing their BS. Heart is selling courses of hit, which are worthless, and Little is part of the mentzer estate which means he still makes money off the books he had written about mentzer, which are equally worthless. Ask them both to provide evidence of hit actually working and they deflect or point to two only known bodybuilders to use hit. Yates and mentzer. That's it. 5 decades of hit and they can only point to two drug monsters as so called successes of hit. Pathetic.
Casey Viator, David Dearth, Ray Mentzer and Aaron Baker all used it for awhile and went back to volume like anyone who isn't brain dead would do.
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wooossshhhhhhhhh
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woosh mentzer and arnold my two favorite bodybuilders of all time
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Walker should have finished higher.
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How about Tucker? ;)
Walker should have finished higher.
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How about Tucker? ;)
Who is Tucker?
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Damn, one of those silly comments you hope someone will get "Tucker and Walker" from Cliffhanger. ;D
Who is Tucker?
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Speaking on Netflix documentary ARNOLD; Best part : they left metal sheet worker turned pig farmer out of the documentary ;D
Worst part : they left the biggest comeback in bodybuilding history and most controversial Olympia totally out ! not a word
which absolutely opens up an even bigger can of warms
Coming soon :
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHh October 4th 1980
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I remember when I was in middle school, we bought “Too Hot for TV”. It was a VHS tape of various controversial antics that were deemed too crazy for regular TV like a Hebrew being stomped to death by an angry moose that wandered into the city. I was hoping the finals for the 1980 Olympia would make the cut, but after rewinding and rewatching several times, I realized I’d been had! $14.95 plus 9.99 S&H down the fuckin’ drain!
Edit: never mind it was a chinaman with a brutal lack of awareness. Surprising in the least. This is Anchorage, not Shanghai, bucko. This was during the non-HD tube television days, so forgive me
I mean, what kid wouldn’t want to see this when the Internet didn’t have anything like this on it at the time?
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91BuET3PfKL._AC_SY879_.jpg)
One of the comments, “GO MOOSE GO”
You really thought to see some footage from a little known bodybuilding contest that was supposedly "controversial?"
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Casey Viator, David Dearth, Ray Mentzer and Aaron Baker all used it for awhile and went back to volume like anyone who isn't brain dead would do.
Yep. The thing is, like Yates and mentzer, they were all already built. They had peaked in their size and strength with conventional methods and not hit. They switched to hit methods to maybe maintain what they had built but never used it from the start to build size and strength. No bodybuilder has. Hit has such a very low to non existent success rate.
John Heart still does this easy to see through trick. He takes a bodybuilder who is already built and uses roids then claims the bodybuilder has made great gains on hit. It's all an obvious lie.
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Was this the Olympia with the “lean, dry champ” ???
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You really thought to see some footage from a little known bodybuilding contest that was supposedly "controversial?"
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Ohhhhhh Rimjob11 men……
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Was this the Olympia with the “lean, dry champ” ???
Yes! I believe it was. Another piece to the 1980 mystery has been solved!
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Listen I'm tired of hearing about the 80 Olympia. The fact is Arnold hid Mentzers glasses and mustach trimmer prior to the atheletes meeting. Mentzer almost fought Arnold over it until Boyer Coe stepped in. This pissed off Arnold, who then got Waller to swap out Coe's toupee with roadkill (i believe it was Wallaby) Zane was already mentally broken from almost losing his pecker. This left that little Twink Dickerson as the only parson left for Arnold to beat.
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Yep. The thing is, like Yates and mentzer, they were all already built. They had peaked in their size and strength with conventional methods and not hit. They switched to hit methods to maybe maintain what they had built but never used it from the start to build size and strength. No bodybuilder has. Hit has such a very low to non existent success rate.
John Heart still does this easy to see through trick. He takes a bodybuilder who is already built and uses roids then claims the bodybuilder has made great gains on hit. It's all an obvious lie.
Yeah and no matter what type of training you’re going to grow on roofs. Muscles just need some type of stimulus and with the extra protein uptake…going to grow.
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You really thought to see some footage from a little known bodybuilding contest that was supposedly "controversial?"
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Yes.
Years ago, I bought "Faces of Death" because it was rumored to have secret footage of a Mr Olympia contestant get clubbed and eaten by a bunch of schmoes. Sadly all I got was that stupid monkey scene.
(https://i.postimg.cc/pLk5PXKS/Untitled.png).
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Ohhhhhh Rimjob11 men……
Bend over.
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I actually doubt that CBS were even at the event. There's no evidence that they were there and this story of them not airing the footage was mostly conjured up by salty losers like boyer coe and methzer.
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I actually doubt that CBS were even at the event. There's no evidence that they were there and this story of them not airing the footage was mostly conjured up by salty losers like boyer coe and methzer.
Good point. Why would CBS fly their people to Australia to cover a contest that only a hundred or so people attended?
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Exactly, why would they then not show the footage. It wouldn't t matter to them who won, know nothing about physique contests and for the few that'd watch at home they'd watch regardless.
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Exactly, why would they then not show the footage. It wouldn't t matter to them who won, know nothing about physique contests and for the few that'd watch at home they'd watch regardless.
Arnold knows he never won but he is such an asshole he wants to believe the bullshit :D
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Exactly, why would they then not show the footage. It wouldn't t matter to them who won, know nothing about physique contests and for the few that'd watch at home they'd watch regardless.
Good point. It’s beyond me no one has asked this to Arnold in public. Is like they have you sign a contract where you can’t mention the year 1980 to Arnold.
It just didn’t happened.
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Arnold knows he never won but he is such an asshole he wants to believe the bullshit :D
Only Arnold did get placed 1st & win.
The debate is if he should've of won , Though I've never heard from the other
competitors who should've won if not Arnold.
The bigger controversy is the 81 Olympia & Franco Placing 1st !!
Tom, Danny & Roy were all clearly superior overall to Franco.
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"I actually doubt that CBS were even at the event."
I rarely post to this board -- only when I can contribute sometimg.
Years ago I talked to a person very well-versed on this event and, yes, it was apparently filmed by CBS and never aired. Someone would have to get a higher-up in the IFBB at the time to discuss it -- Wayne Demilia likely -- but CBS apparently wouldn't air it without an explanation as to what happened insofar as the judging went.
From what I was told, the judging was a mess and Arnold wasn't doing the required poses when asked. Apparently, when asked to do a reverse lat spread, he'd simply hit a most muscular. There were many other instances I guess where they couldn't make heads nor tails of what transpired.
Take from that what you will, but it's well known that it was supposed to air on CBS, there is footage of it, but, apparently, it was CBS's decision not to air it no only because of the controversial win but also what appeared to be nonsensical judging that didn't look very "sport" like.
This is an interesting article: https://starkcenter.org/igh/igh-v11/igh-v11-n1/igh1101p04.pdf
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"I actually doubt that CBS were even at the event."
I rarely post to this board -- only when I can contribute sometimg.
Years ago I talked to a person very well-versed on this event and, yes, it was apparently filmed by CBS and never aired. Someone would have to get a higher-up in the IFBB at the time to discuss it -- Wayne Demilia likely -- but CBS apparently wouldn't air it without an explanation as to what happened insofar as the judging went.
From what I was told, the judging was a mess and Arnold wasn't doing the required poses when asked. Apparently, when asked to do a reverse lat spread, he'd simply hit a most muscular. There were many other instances I guess where they couldn't make heads nor tails of what transpired.
Take from that what you will, but it's well known that it was supposed to air on CBS, there is footage of it, but, apparently, it was CBS's decision not to air it no only because of the controversial win but also what appeared to be nonsensical judging that didn't look very "sport" like.
This is an interesting article: https://starkcenter.org/igh/igh-v11/igh-v11-n1/igh1101p04.pdf
Really - Like CBS were very concerned about Bodybuilding Judging or Knew what or how
to judge ::)
If they had filmed it they would've aired it for the ratings with some Title like
Controversial Judging at top bodybuilding show . ther'e many ways they could've
marketed & shown it - They didn't give a toss about controversy at The Olympia.
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NO. CBS was NOT there! Arnold started that "rumor". People were asking him if he was going to compete. They were all scared he was going to compete. He was worried they might drop out with some bullshit excuse so he said he was "going there to do the color commentary". That he was not competing. He said he was only getting big again for conan ( which WAS true) but then he decided to shut Mentzer the fuck up and compete. He was there with his OWN film crew to film it. NOT cbs. So when they seen a film crew and Arnold there the competitors all just thought it was for CBS until Arnold showed up last minute to the competitors meeting. And oh boy were there some pissed of mofos then!! So that is what actually happened. There was not a cbs crew or film. So let it go people. Arnold won He didn't look like Arnold but still better than those other panty wastes
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I don't know if you guys read, but read the article. And, yes, CBS was there. And, yes, CBS Sports used to cover real sporting events -- and as the article said, they did air bodybuilding until 1979. In 1981 they passed. And they do care about the judging and other aspects. The "sport" came on TV in the 1980s, I think through ABC, but ABC (or it could've been NBC, can't remember) threatened to pull women's bodybuilding coverage when it got too drugged up and obvious -- and they did. I was at one contest before the coverage was pulled. Yes, they used to send real camera crews. That's how people saw things before the Internet.
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You were told wrong, there is footage of arnold hitting a lat spread more then once, i actually screenshot it myself. Infact he hit other poses probably not usually seen previously in his routine like the ab/thigh.
"I actually doubt that CBS were even at the event."
I rarely post to this board -- only when I can contribute sometimg.
Years ago I talked to a person very well-versed on this event and, yes, it was apparently filmed by CBS and never aired. Someone would have to get a higher-up in the IFBB at the time to discuss it -- Wayne Demilia likely -- but CBS apparently wouldn't air it without an explanation as to what happened insofar as the judging went.
From what I was told, the judging was a mess and Arnold wasn't doing the required poses when asked. Apparently, when asked to do a reverse lat spread, he'd simply hit a most muscular. There were many other instances I guess where they couldn't make heads nor tails of what transpired.
Take from that what you will, but it's well known that it was supposed to air on CBS, there is footage of it, but, apparently, it was CBS's decision not to air it no only because of the controversial win but also what appeared to be nonsensical judging that didn't look very "sport" like.
This is an interesting article: https://starkcenter.org/igh/igh-v11/igh-v11-n1/igh1101p04.pdf
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"I actually doubt that CBS were even at the event."
I rarely post to this board -- only when I can contribute sometimg.
Years ago I talked to a person very well-versed on this event and, yes, it was apparently filmed by CBS and never aired. Someone would have to get a higher-up in the IFBB at the time to discuss it -- Wayne Demilia likely -- but CBS apparently wouldn't air it without an explanation as to what happened insofar as the judging went.
From what I was told, the judging was a mess and Arnold wasn't doing the required poses when asked. Apparently, when asked to do a reverse lat spread, he'd simply hit a most muscular. There were many other instances I guess where they couldn't make heads nor tails of what transpired.
Take from that what you will, but it's well known that it was supposed to air on CBS, there is footage of it, but, apparently, it was CBS's decision not to air it no only because of the controversial win but also what appeared to be nonsensical judging that didn't look very "sport" like.
This is an interesting article: https://starkcenter.org/igh/igh-v11/igh-v11-n1/igh1101p04.pdf
Nonsense.
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"Nonsense"
If it's nonsense, why did CBS have rights to broadcast the 1979 Olympia -- and did -- and the 1981 Olympia -- and didn't? They had the rights, they had a film crew there, it's well known -- and pretty much as simple as that.
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Pretty damn good back there.
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Walker looks narrow in comparison.
Pretty damn good back there.
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Walker looks narrow in comparison.
:D
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"Nonsense"
If it's nonsense, why did CBS have rights to broadcast the 1979 Olympia -- and did -- and the 1981 Olympia -- and didn't? They had the rights, they had a film crew there, it's well known -- and pretty much as simple as that.
It isn't, 1979 wasn't broadcasted because cbs weren't there. In 1980 cbs didn't broadcast because they weren't there. It's just a myth that started off as a rumour then become part of the1980 "scandal" (snigger) because both Coe and methzer thought that by saying that CBS wouldn't air the contest would give their story some weight because both of them were salty losers.
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Arnold spun the lie that he was at the 1980 Olympia to do commentary for CBS. Maybe that's another reason people believe they were there...
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It wasn't exactly a secret that Arnold was going to compete in 1980
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Arnold spun the lie that he was at the 1980 Olympia to do commentary for CBS. Maybe that's another reason people believe they were there...
I heard this before. Arnold had a film crew following him around and Platz did too. Someone else as well. Arnold said it was for CBS.
Later the only video that was aired was produced by Paul Graham. The Comeback or total rebuild or whatever it's called. Not surprisingly it obviously features Arnold but a lot of Platz too.
Did 1980 kill prime time coverage of bodybuilding? Maybe but doubtful. It was still a niche. Yeah Louie had Hulk but Arnolds career hadn't exactly taken off yet. Zane was the face of bodybuilding at the time and he had about as much charisma as a cardboard box. Bodybuilding had much more mainstream appeal in the mid to late 80's at the height of Muscle and Fitness readership and the hieght of the super jacked Hollywood action hero: Arnold, Stallone, Van Damme, etc...and yet none of those Olympias were covered by the major networks. Some shows were covered by espn.
Maybe they didn't air it because it was competing with other networks television line up? Maybe there was a different sporting event that cbs aired instead. Its likely CBS aired 1979 but decided bodybuilding contests were actually fairly boring for a mainstream audience...who knows but there's a possibilty that CBS wasn't even there...
Im sure if Arnold was guaranteed to be color commentary on CBS he would've rather done that then compete. He probably left his options open until the last minute and when it seemed CBS wasn't going to need him (because they decided not to go) he said ok, ill compete. For him it was about any publicity to get his career in Hollywood going. He would've otherwise looked at bodybuilding competition as a step backward in his career since he was always goal oriented.
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It wasn't exactly a secret that Arnold was going to compete in 1980
Yep. The thing is the other contenders like Coe, Zane and meth head didn't believe the rumours that Arnold was going to compete even though they were told weeks before the event.
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There was a rumor that when Coe found out Arnold was competing his wig actually jumped off of his skull doing a 360 before landing back in place
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Walker looks narrow in comparison.
Yes, Walker looked great from the front though.
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It wasn't exactly a secret that Arnold was going to compete in 1980
Yeah but at the time it was all hype to make noise around Olympia time ...Nobody thought it could be possible no one ! ...I mean Arnold have moved to bigger and better things and shrunk by early 76'
It was like Kai Greene "coming back" few years ago ......But even less provable....
When Arnold was announced as a competitor that October 4th 1980.....there was terror in Sydney....
Some didn't even recovered.
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHH The Show
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:D
The best part of interview?
" When Big Lou was posing, he had his dad behind the curtains telling him what poses to hit "
WoooOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Potatoe head LMAO
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Yes, Walker looked great from the front though.
at least he didn´t get involved in all the Gay shit that most did at Golds, did his own thing. Comes over as quite a tough character.
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From the article posted above:
THE INTANGIBLE ARNOLD:
THE CONTROVERSIAL
MR. OLYMPIA CONTEST OF 1980
By John Fair
"Arguably the most devastating result was the
decision by CBS, in light of the controversy, not to
broadcast the 1980 event. About two weeks prior to the
contest, it sent a film crew to California under producer
Sherman Egan to gather human interest material on four
of the leading contenders- Mentzer, Coe, Zane, and
Dennis Tinerino-and then on to Sydney. A day or two
after the contest, Egan called Coe,
and we (Mike Mentzer, Frank Zane and
myself) met with Sherm. He made it
clear, that in his limited knowledge of
bodybuilding it was clear to him that the
contest was fixed and that they could
never show this on CBS, and they
would not even bother to edit it. He told
me that if I ever cared to watch it, to
come to CBS in New York and that he
would be happy to show me the raw
footage. Late in 1980 . .. I happened to
be in New York, so I called Shenn up,
he set up the viewing, and so on a cold
Saturday afternoon, Chris Dickerson,
Wayne Demilia, his wife and myself,
watched the footage. It was even worse
than I thought. I quickly realized why
CBS could never show it. Sherm
laughed and said about the only thing
they could do with it was possibly put it
on 60 Minutes
Although CBS had one more year on a three year contract
with the IFBB, it did not bother to send a film crew
in 1981 and has not covered a bodybuilding event since
1979."
Boyer Coe - Why the 1980 Mr. Olympia was not on TV
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From the article posted above:
THE INTANGIBLE ARNOLD:
THE CONTROVERSIAL
MR. OLYMPIA CONTEST OF 1980
By John Fair
"Arguably the most devastating result was the
decision by CBS, in light of the controversy, not to
broadcast the 1980 event. About two weeks prior to the
contest, it sent a film crew to California under producer
Sherman Egan to gather human interest material on four
of the leading contenders- Mentzer, Coe, Zane, and
Dennis Tinerino-and then on to Sydney. A day or two
after the contest, Egan called Coe,
and we (Mike Mentzer, Frank Zane and
myself) met with Sherm. He made it
clear, that in his limited knowledge of
bodybuilding it was clear to him that the
contest was fixed and that they could
never show this on CBS, and they
would not even bother to edit it. He told
me that if I ever cared to watch it, to
come to CBS in New York and that he
would be happy to show me the raw
footage. Late in 1980 . .. I happened to
be in New York, so I called Shenn up,
he set up the viewing, and so on a cold
Saturday afternoon, Chris Dickerson,
Wayne Demilia, his wife and myself,
watched the footage. It was even worse
than I thought. I quickly realized why
CBS could never show it. Sherm
laughed and said about the only thing
they could do with it was possibly put it
on 60 Minutes
Although CBS had one more year on a three year contract
with the IFBB, it did not bother to send a film crew
in 1981 and has not covered a bodybuilding event since
1979."
Boyer Coe - Why the 1980 Mr. Olympia was not on TV
The `81 was even worse ???
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The `81 was even worse ???
Well that was the year Franco won. But 81’ was probably the last year left on the contract and they took a chance that that IFBB wouldn’t sue them for missing the last year since the majority of the contract was complete and it was a waste of money for CBS.
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Well that was the year Franco won. But 81’ was probably the last year left on the contract and they took a chance that that IFBB wouldn’t sue them for missing the last year since the majority of the contract was complete and it was a waste of money for CBS.
They knew `80 was a joke & a fix so when Arnold´s little buddy was up for the next show they knew it would be even more controversial & it was.
it´s like Roger walker said in the interview, "everyone can smell bullshit"
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They knew `80 was a joke & a fix so when Arnold´s little buddy was up for the next show they knew it would be even more controversial & it was.
it´s like Roger walker said in the interview, "everyone can smell bullshit"
Walker is just another bitter has been that never was.
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From the article posted above:
THE INTANGIBLE ARNOLD:
THE CONTROVERSIAL
MR. OLYMPIA CONTEST OF 1980
By John Fair
"Arguably the most devastating result was the
decision by CBS, in light of the controversy, not to
broadcast the 1980 event. About two weeks prior to the
contest, it sent a film crew to California under producer
Sherman Egan to gather human interest material on four
of the leading contenders- Mentzer, Coe, Zane, and
Dennis Tinerino-and then on to Sydney. A day or two
after the contest, Egan called Coe,
and we (Mike Mentzer, Frank Zane and
myself) met with Sherm. He made it
clear, that in his limited knowledge of
bodybuilding it was clear to him that the
contest was fixed and that they could
never show this on CBS, and they
would not even bother to edit it. He told
me that if I ever cared to watch it, to
come to CBS in New York and that he
would be happy to show me the raw
footage. Late in 1980 . .. I happened to
be in New York, so I called Shenn up,
he set up the viewing, and so on a cold
Saturday afternoon, Chris Dickerson,
Wayne Demilia, his wife and myself,
watched the footage. It was even worse
than I thought. I quickly realized why
CBS could never show it. Sherm
laughed and said about the only thing
they could do with it was possibly put it
on 60 Minutes
Although CBS had one more year on a three year contract
with the IFBB, it did not bother to send a film crew
in 1981 and has not covered a bodybuilding event since
1979."
Boyer Coe - Why the 1980 Mr. Olympia was not on TV
More lies. Coe still going on about the 1980 olympia that he could never possibly win.
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More lies. Coe still going on about the 1980 olympia that he could never possibly win.
that´s not his point bro
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that´s not his point bro
It is. He's just a salty loser like meth head before him.
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It is. He's just a salty loser like meth head before him.
The only salty thing is your boyfriends come :D
In your mouth bro
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Walker is just another bitter has been that never was.
Exactly.
Just watch any footage or photo of him standing next to Arnold.
Arnold crushes him in every single pose
yet he claims Arnold was off and didn’t deserve to be top 6.
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Exactly.
Just watch any footage or photo of him standing next to Arnold.
Arnold crushes him in every single pose
yet he claims Arnold was off and didn’t deserve to be top 6.
others thought the same even Bill Pearl who stepped back from judging as he knew it was just bullshit.
everyone can have their opinions but ..no smoke without fire
Muscle smoke & mirrors
Randy Roach. read it ;)
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Yea, walker looked good standing there front relaxed but Arnold schooled him in every shot.
Most people, the competitors included make the same mistake, they say Arnold wasn't like he was before, but he wasn't competing against himself.
He still had his trademark bodyparts and poses and actually bought a different package being extra dry, ripped and vascular.
Exactly.
Just watch any footage or photo of him standing next to Arnold.
Arnold crushes him in every single pose
yet he claims Arnold was off and didn’t deserve to be top 6.
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Yea, walker looked good standing there front relaxed but Arnold schooled him in every shot.
Most people, the competitors included make the same mistake, they say Arnold wasn't like he was before, but he wasn't competing against himself.
He still had his trademark bodyparts and poses and actually bought a different package being extra dry, ripped and vascular.
;D ;D ;D
Utter bullshit
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;D ;D ;D
Utter bullshit
Yes, you do utter absolute bs.
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others thought the same even Bill Pearl who stepped back from judging as he knew it was just bullshit.
everyone can have their opinions but ..no smoke without fire
Muscle smoke & mirrors
Randy Roach. read it ;)
Bill Pearl was training Chris Dickerson for the 1980 olympia and was going to judge but pulled out due to being fair. He did not step back from it being BS at all.
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Exactly.
Just watch any footage or photo of him standing next to Arnold.
Arnold crushes him in every single pose
yet he claims Arnold was off and didn’t deserve to be top 6.
Walker is just another salty loser. And that's the good thing about the 1980 olympia. Arnold exposed these cretins for being the fragile egotistical small men they really were. Especially old meth head. Imagine losing your sh!t for the next 20 years over some small bodybuilding contest that most people on the street don't even know about. Pretty pathetic really.
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Exactly.
Just watch any footage or photo of him standing next to Arnold.
Arnold crushes him in every single pose
yet he claims Arnold was off and didn’t deserve to be top 6.
Walker deserved top six though.
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Walker deserved top six though.
Yes I think he did.
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John Terilli sets the record straight.
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The reason Arnold did not mention the 1980 Mr.Olympia controversy in his Netflix documentary?
He regrets the way he disrespected just about every competitor when he first arrived in Sydney.
He wants to apologize to Boyer .... or at least waiting for Boyer to kick the bucket so he can revisit the whole 1980 victory
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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During the prejudging a judge warned Arnold he was going to mark him down if he didn't hit side tricep pose correctly ...... that judge did not come back for the night show ....... ;D
But Arnold was the best guy onstage and he knew it ..
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHH Oct 4th 1980
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Even though he was at his lightest weight for competition he may have been in his best shape ever.
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Even though he was at his lightest weight for competition he may have been in his best shape ever.
Nope was in ´74 but at the Mr O in `80 he was in his worst shape, it was fixed
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Nope was in ´74 but at the Mr O in `80 he was in his worst shape, it was fixed
By shape I think he means leaner and dryer .... That rear double biceps in 1980 unreal. First time a Xmas tree was displayed despite photo and videos from Sydney available are poor quality for the most part ...
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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The one and only..............
Arnold kicked ass..............PERIOD!!
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Trying to see things as they really were back in 1980.
Dickerson was having momentum as he was winning every pro contest he entered prior Olympia
Zane was going for 4th Sandow straight
1979 was Zane best showing and yet he beat Mentzer by just one point.
In 80 Mentzer came back better and Zane smaller.
Everyone was expecting a battle between Dickerson and Mentzer.
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Trying to see things as they really were back in 1980.
Dickerson was having momentum as he was winning every pro contest he entered prior Olympia
Zane was going for 4th Sandow straight
1979 was Zane best showing and yet he beat Mentzer by just one point.
In 80 Mentzer came back better and Zane smaller.
Everyone was expecting a battle between Dickerson and Mentzer.
If by "better" you mean smaller, flat and depleted then yes, you could say he was better.
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Nope was in ´74 but at the Mr O in `80 he was in his worst shape, it was fixed
Who do think should have won in 80?
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What place did the Heavy Duty guy finish?
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I am gonna say this again. So understand it this time people. The ONLY reason why people think Arnold shouldn't have won is because he did NOT look like Arnold. Arnold used to be huge . He was lighter for this show so he doesn't look like Arnold used to look. He was better than everyone else though. So people look at him and say how bad he looked how thin he was or whatever but that is because you are comparing him to his former self. He was still bigger and better than those other clowns but didn't look like himself. Case closed.
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I am gonna say this again. So understand it this time people. The ONLY reason why people think Arnold shouldn't have won is because he did NOT look like Arnold. Arnold used to be huge . He was lighter for this show so he doesn't look like Arnold used to look. He was better than everyone else though. So people look at him and say how bad he looked how thin he was or whatever but that is because you are comparing him to his former self. He was still bigger and better than those other clowns but didn't look like himself. Case closed.
Yeah most people think Arnold shouldn't have won it because he did not look like his former self.
However on the show, backstage every competitor felt Arnold shouldn't have placed higher than 5 ;D... So, there was a lot of guys thinking they looked better than Arnold standing next to him that day (Oct 4th 1980)
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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What place did the Heavy Duty guy finish?
Low enough to cause a lifetime meltdown.
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Mentzer was pretty clear cut winner here. Superior mass everywhere and better condition. Legs and arms especially where Arnold looked stringy next to him.
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Mentzer was pretty clear cut winner here. Superior mass everywhere and better condition. Legs and arms especially where Arnold looked stringy next to him.
Ahh yes that's why he placed 5th ::)
Roy & Roger should've placed a head of Mike
so how in the hell do you have him winning.
Anyway Arnold won - End of. ;D
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Ahh yes that's why he placed 5th ::)
Roy & Roger should've placed a head of Mike
so how in the hell do you have him winning.
Anyway Arnold won - End of. ;D
Arnold was sucking Paul Graham´s cock we all know this. :D
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Low enough to cause a lifetime meltdown.
Brutal if true!
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Brutal if true!
It is.
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Arnold was sucking Paul Graham´s cock we all know this. :D
Evidence to back up that bogus claim? 🤣
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Evidence to back up that bogus claim? 🤣
Man...you´re dumb ::)
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I doubt we will ever see that amount of heads full of hair in an Olympia lineup.
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No evidence of any gay activity. I read Barbara Outlands book and she pretty much said Arnold was anti gay, that she kinda helped him atleast change his attitude towards the gay community.
Evidence to back up that bogus claim? 🤣
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Kind of childish/stupid to bring the gay cock sucking assumptions to win an argument.
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I doubt we will ever see that amount of heads full of hair in an Olympia lineup.
Unless they start wearing wigs.
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Man...you´re dumb ::)
You make a claim then can't back it up. Now that's dumb. 😂
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You make a claim then can't back it up. Now that's dumb. 😂
Bro...
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Bro...
Fact.
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Kind of childish/stupid to bring the gay cock sucking assumptions to win an argument.
Loved you in Boogie Nights…
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Joe - " Come back in 81' , Arnold will be gone for good, Dickerson doesn't have the arms to beat you and franco doesn't have the legs ....is no brainer ,we'll make a film call "Redemption" .
Mike - what about Platz and Padilla?"
Joe - Unlike you, they didn't even make the top 6 this year "
Mike .... ' Nah, I was robbed by Arnold in Sydney .... I'm done with this shit !"
WooooSHHHHHHHHHH
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Arnold - " shit Roger still staring at me "
Franco ' "just ignore him "
WooSSHHHHHHHHHHH 10/4/80
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I said it before. Arnold was 80% of his peak but even with that when I watch the film I have him winning. Mentzer looked great but he was fifth. He deserved fifth. Roy Callender was ripped off. Dickerson deserved second. His density was on another level. Zane even though he came in super light at 183 lbs looked incredible. He sliced his dick up on a sharp edge on pool lounge chair tanning. He said that hampered his prep while he healed but he still looked fantastic.
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Exactly. Arnold did NOT look like Arnold. BUT was still better than these guys. He was NOT leaps and bounds better like he normally was but still better. Zane is one guy who when standing alone has the perfect body. ( he was too small this year though) A statue. Just great. BUT when he stands besides others he looks like a swimmer or a tri athlete or something. Mentzer is almost the same. He looks good when alone but thats it really. Dickerson really has no reason to be on the stage . He was ok but just not Mr Olympia material. no real balance in body parts. Odd shaped. Back then they looked like real bodybuilders. These ass clowns nowdays look like 10 pounds of smashed assholes shoved into a 5 lb bucket. They all look the same. Back then you could tell who was who by their bodies Not now. Same drugs same training same food and more of the same drugs . No one does anything different. I liked the old school shows. Maybe up to 10 guys in a contest. Only a few shows a year and they all trained to be big cut proportioned and balanced. They could walk around the block without gasping for air. They didn't carry food with them. Or worry about "macros" or the "anabolic window " smh. They trained hard long and often. Ate when they could. slept well tanned and all hung out together. What happened !!!
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I said it before. Arnold was 80% of his peak but even with that when I watch the film I have him winning. Mentzer looked great but he was fifth. He deserved fifth. Roy Callender was ripped off. Dickerson deserved second. His density was on another level. Zane even though he came in super light at 183 lbs looked incredible. He sliced his dick up on a sharp edge on pool lounge chair tanning. He said that hampered his prep while he healed but he still looked fantastic.
Agreed,,,tinerino was no slouch either..
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Quote from Bill Pearl from "Arnold schwarzenegger the life of a legend"
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Quote from Bill Pearl from "Arnold schwarzenegger the life of a legend"
Wow … Are you sure it wasn’t Platz who said that ?
Mentzer always said that he came in to defense to Boyers regarding Arnold’s requests,insults and arrogance … he even approached Arnold aggressively and Arnold sat down quiet looking the other way.
We definitely need Banout , Boyer and /or Zane to join this thread
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Quote from Bill Pearl from "Arnold schwarzenegger the life of a legend"
He broke the man
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Nope, 100% Pearl, in another excerpt he said Arnold came looking for him the day after the O as he was told Pearl was bad mouthing him.
Pearl said no Arnold, i just said you're the most ferocious competitor I've ever seen. Arnold said that's good then and that was that.
Wow … Are you sure it wasn’t Platz who said that ?
Mentzer always said that he came in to defense to Boyers regarding Arnold’s requests,insults and arrogance … he even approached Arnold aggressively and Arnold sat down quiet looking the other way.
We definitely need Banout , Boyer and /or Zane to join this thread
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Zane even though he came in super light at 183 lbs looked incredible. He sliced his dick up on a sharp edge on pool lounge chair tanning. He said that hampered his prep while he healed but he still looked fantastic.
That’s the oldest excuse in the book
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;D One year bro
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Guy was way smaller than Arnold with a thick stomach in comparison, deluded.
;D One year bro
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According to Platz himself
Mentzer was on his way to be the golden child of bodybuilding in the 80's
The Sandow was meant to be Mike Mentzer's in 1981 had he moved on from 1980
Being beaten by Arnold eventually killed him.
Thats saying much from someone who is considered the uncrowned 81' Mr.O
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WoooSHHHHHHHHHHH Oct 4th 1980
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Arms / Misc
TRI
JM Press - 4 sets
Incline Nose Breakers - 4 sets
Dips / Cable Pushdown (supersets) - 4 sets
BI
Seated D-Bell Curls - 4 sets
Hammer-Preacher Curls - 4 sets
Misc - Shoulder Press Machine - 4 sets
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According to Platz himself
Mentzer was on his way to be the golden child of bodybuilding in the 80's
The Sandow was meant to be Mike Mentzer's in 1981 had he moved on from 1980
Being beaten by Arnold eventually killed him.
Thats saying much from someone who is considered the uncrowned 81' Mr.O
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WoooSHHHHHHHHHHH Oct 4th 1980
I noticed Platz has been fairly disparaging of Arnold lately. LOL. After years of kissing Arnolds ass and being the biggest brown noser ever Platz has realized he's in the final stretch of his life and it never paid off. All the ass kissing and sucking up. He probably burned alot of bridges with his WBF involvement. He tried acting and had two bit parts in a few obscure movies. So now he's got his schtick training people like he used to train and trying to generate some relevance by bad mouthing Arnold now? When everyone already knows Arnold was always out for himself? Haha. Lame.
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I noticed Platz has been fairly disparaging of Arnold lately. LOL. After years of kissing Arnolds ass and being the biggest brown noser ever Platz has realized he's in the final stretch of his life and it never paid off. All the ass kissing and sucking up. He probably burned alot of bridges with his WBF involvement. He tried acting and had two bit parts in a few obscure movies. So now he's got his schtick training people like he used to train and trying to generate some relevance by bad mouthing Arnold now? When everyone already knows Arnold was always out for himself? Haha. Lame.
Platz is really much of a bullshitter as old meth head was. Out to sell a gimmick. Most of the time he never squated ass to grass. He only did that occasionally. Most of the time he went to parallel. Just ask Lee Priest who had trained with Platz numerous of times.
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Mentzer said something derogatory to Arnold which I don’t remember, and Arnold replied, “You didn’t win Olympia last year because your waist was hanging way out, and you won’t win it this year for the same reason.” With that Mentzer lunged at Arnold and several of the officials including Bill Pearl broke it up.
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Fun fact: the Odor Eaters giant foot mascot from Kingpin looks like Mike Menzter
(https://i.imgflip.com/7xdze7.gif)(https://www.builtreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/mike-mentzer-030.jpg)
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^ Munson had a better ending to his story.
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Mike always insisted the 80 Olympia was fixed. I believe he has a point. After the contest I was given all the judges' score sheets so could do an analysis of it. The big problem with the judging method was the foolish idea of scoring each round. Ben Weider had hoped to have this contest in the Olympic games so adapted a system of judging resembling diving, ice skating and gymnastics. Disaster occurred because they did not standardize the scores for each round. After the first round the scores should have been collected then a score given so that there was room for a higher score. They didn't do this and in all the rounds too many competitors received a 20 out of 20 score. In effect those scores did not separate the men. Multiply this error by 3 and the results are not accurate. The judges who did separate the men had their scores count for more.
A more important revelation was made by John Fair in an article. (link below) Paul Graham promoted the Olympia that year. They were room mates in Los Angeles in late 1968 and early 1969. Paul was arrested on January 29, 1969 in Honolulu by the FBI for sending stolen cars from LA to Australia. Arnold states in Total Recall, that he made some money driving cars to a dock in Los Angeles that were destined for Australia. Paul took the rap himself and spend over 2 years in a California prison. So Paul and Arnold were close. Randy Roach, 'Muscles, Smoke and Mirrors', believes Arnold did not enter until he knew he had the majority of judges who would place him first. Here is where I made an error when writing about the contest. I was standing in the foyer of the Sydney Opera House just before the prejudging. I was with Frank Burwash and Peter McCarthy. Someone came up to Pete and told him the judges meeting has already started. Peter swore and raced off but was told since he missed part of the meeting he was replaced by another judge but he could judge as a spare. Brendan Ryan, who won a Junior Mr Australia contest was a judge. I assumed Paul replaced Peter with Brendan. Nope, Brendan was already selected to judge. Peter was replaced by Dr Michael Walczak. Four of the judges placed Arnold first. Reg Park, Brendan Ryan, Albert Busek, and Mits Kowashima. Walczak placed Dennis Tinerino first and Arnold second. He placed Dickerson 8th. Jacques Blommaert and Dan Howard placed Dickerson first. Arnold was a good friend of Howard's but Dan didn't let that affect his score. There you have it, before the contest Arnold believed that 5 out of the 7 judges would vote for him. 4 did and that was sufficient to win.
Article on the 80 Olympia by John Fair: https://starkcenter.org/igh_article/igh1101p04/
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Mike always insisted the 80 Olympia was fixed. I believe he has a point. After the contest I was given all the judges' score sheets so could do an analysis of it. The big problem with the judging method was the foolish idea of scoring each round. Ben Weider had hoped to have this contest in the Olympic games so adapted a system of judging resembling diving, ice skating and gymnastics. Disaster occurred because they did not standardize the scores for each round. After the first round the scores should have been collected then a score given so that there was room for a higher score. They didn't do this and in all the rounds too many competitors received a 20 out of 20 score. In effect those scores did not separate the men. Multiply this error by 3 and the results are not accurate. The judges who did separate the men had their scores count for more.
A more important revelation was made by John Fair in an article. (link below) Paul Graham promoted the Olympia that year. They were room mates in Los Angeles in late 1968 and early 1969. Paul was arrested on January 29, 1969 in Honolulu by the FBI for sending stolen cars from LA to Australia. Arnold states in Total Recall, that he made some money driving cars to a dock in Los Angeles that were destined for Australia. Paul took the rap himself and spend over 2 years in a California prison. So Paul and Arnold were close. Randy Roach, 'Muscles, Smoke and Mirrors', believes Arnold did not enter until he knew he had the majority of judges who would place him first. Here is where I made an error when writing about the contest. I was standing in the foyer of the Sydney Opera House just before the prejudging. I was with Frank Burwash and Peter McCarthy. Someone came up to Pete and told him the judges meeting has already started. Peter swore and raced off but was told since he missed part of the meeting he was replaced by another judge but he could judge as a spare. Brendan Ryan, who won a Junior Mr Australia contest was a judge. I assumed Paul replaced Peter with Brendan. Nope, Brendan was already selected to judge. Peter was replaced by Dr Michael Walczak. Four of the judges placed Arnold first. Reg Park, Brendan Ryan, Albert Busek, and Mits Kowashima. Walczak placed Dennis Tinerino first and Arnold second. He placed Dickerson 8th. Jacques Blommaert and Dan Howard placed Dickerson first. Arnold was a good friend of Howard's but Dan didn't let that affect his score. There you have it, before the contest Arnold believed that 5 out of the 7 judges would vote for him. 4 did and that was sufficient to win.
Article on the 80 Olympia by John Fair: https://starkcenter.org/igh_article/igh1101p04/
Yeah & they also fixed it so the Queer Chimp would place 2nd & Mike would place 5 ::)
Yes all the judges were in on the screwing over of Mike :o
Do you really believe that - or Maybe No one had an overall Better physique
Than Arnold - others had better body parts yet lacked else where.
And how the hell did that judge get Dennis in 1st place - why aren't you
questioning that ??
Arnold won - End of.
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Mike always insisted the 80 Olympia was fixed. I believe he has a point. After the contest I was given all the judges' score sheets so could do an analysis of it. The big problem with the judging method was the foolish idea of scoring each round. Ben Weider had hoped to have this contest in the Olympic games so adapted a system of judging resembling diving, ice skating and gymnastics. Disaster occurred because they did not standardize the scores for each round. After the first round the scores should have been collected then a score given so that there was room for a higher score. They didn't do this and in all the rounds too many competitors received a 20 out of 20 score. In effect those scores did not separate the men. Multiply this error by 3 and the results are not accurate. The judges who did separate the men had their scores count for more.
A more important revelation was made by John Fair in an article. (link below) Paul Graham promoted the Olympia that year. They were room mates in Los Angeles in late 1968 and early 1969. Paul was arrested on January 29, 1969 in Honolulu by the FBI for sending stolen cars from LA to Australia. Arnold states in Total Recall, that he made some money driving cars to a dock in Los Angeles that were destined for Australia. Paul took the rap himself and spend over 2 years in a California prison. So Paul and Arnold were close. Randy Roach, 'Muscles, Smoke and Mirrors', believes Arnold did not enter until he knew he had the majority of judges who would place him first. Here is where I made an error when writing about the contest. I was standing in the foyer of the Sydney Opera House just before the prejudging. I was with Frank Burwash and Peter McCarthy. Someone came up to Pete and told him the judges meeting has already started. Peter swore and raced off but was told since he missed part of the meeting he was replaced by another judge but he could judge as a spare. Brendan Ryan, who won a Junior Mr Australia contest was a judge. I assumed Paul replaced Peter with Brendan. Nope, Brendan was already selected to judge. Peter was replaced by Dr Michael Walczak. Four of the judges placed Arnold first. Reg Park, Brendan Ryan, Albert Busek, and Mits Kowashima. Walczak placed Dennis Tinerino first and Arnold second. He placed Dickerson 8th. Jacques Blommaert and Dan Howard placed Dickerson first. Arnold was a good friend of Howard's but Dan didn't let that affect his score. There you have it, before the contest Arnold believed that 5 out of the 7 judges would vote for him. 4 did and that was sufficient to win.
Article on the 80 Olympia by John Fair: https://starkcenter.org/igh_article/igh1101p04/
Yup...Paul Graham covered Arnold`s ASS in more ways than one !! :D
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^ Munson had a better ending to his story.
Menzter got munsoned!
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Yeah & they also fixed it so the Queer Chimp would place 2nd & Mike would place 5 ::)
Yes all the judges were in on the screwing over of Mike :o
Do you really believe that - or Maybe No one had an overall Better physique
Than Arnold - others had better body parts yet lacked else where.
And how the hell did that judge get Dennis in 1st place - why aren't you
questioning that ??
Arnold won - End of.
Yes, I forgot that everyone on Getbig is an expert in all matters re bodybuilding!
Dennis did look great. Wide shoulders and the best conditioning of all the competitors. His posing let him down.
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I have said this before but the best physique at the 1980 Olympia wasn't compared even once! Blows everyone away with the total package.
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Yes, I forgot that everyone on Getbig is an expert in all matters re bodybuilding!
Dennis did look great. Wide shoulders and the best conditioning of all the competitors. His posing let him down.
You believe you are ::)
Overall not a great structure on Dennis- just doesn't flow nicely.
Wide shoulders & wide waist.
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I have said this before but the best physique at the 1980 Olympia wasn't compared even once! Blows everyone away with the total package.
Would you have enjoyed oiling him up?
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Would you have enjoyed oiling him up?
The older I get the more convinced I am that the world is populated by complete assholes.
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As a first-hand witness, we need your top 8, Vince? with little commentary on each physique..
thanks!
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Menzter got munsoned!
Mentzer was from Pennsylvania and Munson moved there from Iowa. Maybe they were roommates at one time.
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I took the best photos at the prejudging at the 80 Olympia. A year earlier there was a pro bodybuilding contest there and I calculated where the best seat would be to take photos. So I selected a seat at waist level to the competitors on stage and of course in the middle of the Opera House. I had a sturdy tripod and an excellent camera with very good telephoto lenses. I took 360 black and white photos of the judging. At night I took colour slides. Here is an edited photo of 4 of the competitors. I removed all the background distractions.
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Re-edit of one of the first call outs. Arnold not included and look at the expression on his face!
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Re-edit of one of the first call outs. Arnold not included and look at the expression on his face!
Looks butt-hurt for sure...
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When I saw this photo it told the story of the shape Arnold was in. This was the first call out for comparisons and Arnold wasn't in this group. There he is with his head down wondering why he entered the contest. Mike is smiling because he felt the call out meant those guys placed ahead of Arnold. That wasn't to be and when Arnold was called in later groups he rose to the occasion and stole the show.
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When I saw this photo it told the story of the shape Arnold was in. This was the first call out for comparisons and Arnold wasn't in this group. There he is with his head down wondering why he entered the contest. Mike is smiling because he felt the call out meant those guys placed ahead of Arnold. That wasn't to be and when Arnold was called in later groups he rose to the occasion and stole the show.
So Now you're a mind reader also - Then waht the fuck is Roy Thinking ??
" Oh it's time for me to walk off stage & go home they've not called Me ? "
That's what it looks like from his expression.
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So Now you're a mind reader also - Then waht the fuck is Roy Thinking ??
" Oh it's time for me to walk off stage & go home they've not called Me ? "
That's what it looks like from his expression.
Body language tells the story. Roy looked great but wasn't selected that day.
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Mentzer said something derogatory to Arnold which I don’t remember, and Arnold replied, “You didn’t win Olympia last year because your waist was hanging way out, and you won’t win it this year for the same reason.” With that Mentzer lunged at Arnold and several of the officials including Bill Pearl broke it up.
No it started because Arnold was going on about what classes he wanted & Boyer coe asked him about it.
Arnold being the arrogant cocky prick he is made a dumb remark, Mike stepped in & then Arnold made childish remarks about Mike´s waist.
It´s such a shame Mike never punched Arnold who by all accounts "fought like a girl".. ric Drasin said this.
Arnold was & still is a scumbag .. look at him now a Globalist ass licking turd
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Body language tells the story. Roy looked great but wasn't selected that day.
If you believe so from one frame ::)
forgot we're dealing with a mastermind & expert Mind reader. ::)
Tell me what Roy & the others were thinking from that pic ...........
Roy's Body language says I'm leaving......
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That's what i thought, no one has a happy upbeat expression in that split second moment.
Arnold destroyed them all in the poses at under par for him and that's what upsets everyone.
Mentzer was nearly crying before the show, arnold destroyed him mentally, some people really let words affect them, that's all it is, words. But arnold was right, mikes chest was shallow and gut thicker from the side.
If you believe so from one frame ::)
forgot we're dealing with a mastermind & expert Mind reader. ::)
Tell me what Roy & the others were thinking from that pic ...........
Roy's Body language says I'm leaving......
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No it started because Arnold was going on about what classes he wanted & Boyer coe asked him about it.
Arnold being the arrogant cocky prick he is made a dumb remark, Mike stepped in & then Arnold made childish remarks about Mike´s waist.
It´s such a shame Mike never punched Arnold who by all accounts "fought like a girl".. ric Drasin said this.
Arnold was & still is a scumbag .. look at him now a Globalist ass licking turd
Arnold snapped Mike's confidence with the same ease a getbigger snaps a pitbulls neck. Arnold may be a globalist turd but Mike is a turd residing 6 feet beneath the surface of the globe.
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Mike always insisted the 80 Olympia was fixed. I believe he has a point. After the contest I was given all the judges' score sheets so could do an analysis of it. The big problem with the judging method was the foolish idea of scoring each round. Ben Weider had hoped to have this contest in the Olympic games so adapted a system of judging resembling diving, ice skating and gymnastics. Disaster occurred because they did not standardize the scores for each round. After the first round the scores should have been collected then a score given so that there was room for a higher score. They didn't do this and in all the rounds too many competitors received a 20 out of 20 score. In effect those scores did not separate the men. Multiply this error by 3 and the results are not accurate. The judges who did separate the men had their scores count for more.
A more important revelation was made by John Fair in an article. (link below) Paul Graham promoted the Olympia that year. They were room mates in Los Angeles in late 1968 and early 1969. Paul was arrested on January 29, 1969 in Honolulu by the FBI for sending stolen cars from LA to Australia. Arnold states in Total Recall, that he made some money driving cars to a dock in Los Angeles that were destined for Australia. Paul took the rap himself and spend over 2 years in a California prison. So Paul and Arnold were close. Randy Roach, 'Muscles, Smoke and Mirrors', believes Arnold did not enter until he knew he had the majority of judges who would place him first. Here is where I made an error when writing about the contest. I was standing in the foyer of the Sydney Opera House just before the prejudging. I was with Frank Burwash and Peter McCarthy. Someone came up to Pete and told him the judges meeting has already started. Peter swore and raced off but was told since he missed part of the meeting he was replaced by another judge but he could judge as a spare. Brendan Ryan, who won a Junior Mr Australia contest was a judge. I assumed Paul replaced Peter with Brendan. Nope, Brendan was already selected to judge. Peter was replaced by Dr Michael Walczak. Four of the judges placed Arnold first. Reg Park, Brendan Ryan, Albert Busek, and Mits Kowashima. Walczak placed Dennis Tinerino first and Arnold second. He placed Dickerson 8th. Jacques Blommaert and Dan Howard placed Dickerson first. Arnold was a good friend of Howard's but Dan didn't let that affect his score. There you have it, before the contest Arnold believed that 5 out of the 7 judges would vote for him. 4 did and that was sufficient to win.
Article on the 80 Olympia by John Fair: https://starkcenter.org/igh_article/igh1101p04/
[Yep exactly great post Vince.
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When I saw this photo it told the story of the shape Arnold was in. This was the first call out for comparisons and Arnold wasn't in this group. There he is with his head down wondering why he entered the contest. Mike is smiling because he felt the call out meant those guys placed ahead of Arnold. That wasn't to be and when Arnold was called in later groups he rose to the occasion and stole the show.
For all anyone knows,the judges could be looking for the second place man in this call out.
I`ve seen it quite a few times where the overall winner doesn`t get called much, if at all, because he`s already a shoe in for first place, and the battle is for 2nd. place on down.
Anyway,it`s getting stupid, this was 43 years ago,and nothing will ever change the fact that
"Arnold is numero uno"! :D
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When I saw this photo it told the story of the shape Arnold was in. This was the first call out for comparisons and Arnold wasn't in this group. There he is with his head down wondering why he entered the contest. Mike is smiling because he felt the call out meant those guys placed ahead of Arnold. That wasn't to be and when Arnold was called in later groups he rose to the occasion and stole the show.
This early confidence Mentzer had probably made the loss all the more crushing.
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More has been said and written about this questionable competition than any other Mr. Olympia contest, and if you add these comments to the 1981 Olympia competition you get the most controversial two years in competitive bodybuilding ever. In my mind Arnold didn’t deserve to win in 1980 nor did
Colombu deserve to win in 1981.
Did I deserve to win? I was in great shape, but I could have been better. With my mind set on winning four Mr. Olympia titles, I stood in my living room at our Palm Springs house looking out at the pool. It was early August, and I was right on schedule with my Olympia preparation. 208 pounds rock hard and angry about my life of deprivation and sacrifice.
“Oh hell, another 8 weeks of torture to look forward to” I said to myself as I kneeled to sit in the lawn chair near the edge of the pool. As I did the chair slid into the pool with me in it. I felt a hard bump in the groin and sunk to the bottom, dazed. Crawling out there was blood gushing from my penis. The bulbous urethra was smashed. Christine rushed me to the hospital, “keep saying your mantra” she advised.
Four hours later the doctor showed up, he’d been golfing. The nurses had been taking turns squeezing my penis to control the bleeding, but it wasn’t working too well. Finally, the doctor taped me in such a way that pressure was put on the urethra area. The bleeding stopped, a catheter was inserted, and I
went into shock.
Passing out, I thought I was dying. There was a lot of light, and I felt free of all cares and worries. “I could check out right now” I thought and then woke up in a hospital bed. I was there for at least a day (don’t quite remember) and didn’t know what to think or do. So, I called Arnold. He’d given me contest advice for the last several years and I really need it now.
“The word is at Gold’s Gym that you took so many steroids your dick exploded!” Arnold laughed. I expected derisive remarks from the Gold’s animal pit contingency and explained my situation. “What do you think I should do?” I asked the Oak. “You should go to Australia and defend your title” he told me. “You are training hard, are you going to compete?” I asked. “No, I’ll be there doing the TV commentary for CBS” he told me.
To further compound bad advises, my doctor told me I’d be OK to compete in 8 weeks. As it turned out I lost a good 15 pounds because of the accident, the extra muscle mass I’d added was gone. Would I be good enough to win?
A catheter had been installed in my urinary tract and it was anything but comfortable. “How long does this need to stay in?” I asked my doctor. “Six weeks is normal.” He answered. “How about 6 days, I have to train for the Mr. Olympia”. So out came the catheter and I went home feeling skinny and weak.
Immediately I called Canada as I had a posing exhibition scheduled for the following weekend. No way I’d be able to do that without having trained for it, I better cancel I thought. But I learned they couldn’t get a replacement, so I had to do it. Then lying on my sofa, the bleeding started up again and lasted 12 hours.
Phoning my doctor, he told me a small blood vessel probably ruptured and to just stay still until the bleeding stops. “The problem is that you don’t know how to be sick. You need to realize your condition before you can heal.” He was right I accepted my fate.
It was a lot of lying around for the next few days. Should I even go to Australia? Arnold and even my doctor said I’d be able to compete. Problem was I didn’t know if and when the bleeding would start up once I began training. But I wasn’t ready to start yet, a few more days of rest up to the Wednesday before we left for Canada, and I got in one workout which consisted of walking one mile. We flew to Toronto, I posed, and the audience wondered how I ever won Mr. Olympia looking like I’d just gotten out of the hospital (which was actually the case). Then we flew to Calgary for a seminar, and I was exhausted.
But after resting a few days at home I started weight training again. I’d lost a good 15 pounds, but my strength came back pretty fast. I’d do a set and then open my shorts to check if my penis was bleeding. Luckily, it wasn’t.
Two weeks later I had an exhibition in Philadelphia and people who saw me in Canada couldn’t believe the transformation. Talking with Robbie Robinson backstage, he told me he wasn’t going to Australia to compete. “Why not “ I asked. “I heard the contest is fixed for Arnold to win” he told me. I began to wonder if I’d made the right choice. Time would tell.
There was no way I could gain the muscle mass back in the remaining three weeks, I’d just have to go for maximum definition. It was a long, long charter flight to Australia and all the competitors from the USA were on board.
There was Mike Mentzer, cocky and sure he’d win, Dennis Tinerino preaching how he was saved in his jail cell by Jesus Christ after being arrested. Christ became his training partner and Dennis was confident he would win too. So was Chris Dickerson who thought he deserved to win since he’d been cleaning up in all the grand pris the entire year. Many were confident but I wasn’t sure. I’d learned that hope was note enough but I hoped I was wrong. After all I was still Mr. Olympia.
But I knew although I was in great shape I wasn’t as good as I could have been, and this made it more difficult to act like the winner on stage. I was feeling the stress and my face looked drawn and tired.
The morning before the competition there was a meeting of the competitors with the judges and officials at the Sydney Opera house where the contest was being held. “Same old crap” I said to myself. Having to listen to all this nonsense was unnerving and tedious since prejudging would be right after. The
vote was to eliminate the under 200-pound class and I think this was the turning point in professional competitive bodybuilding. Now everybody had to weigh over 200 (the more the better) to stand a chance and they would only be judged in a single group all together. As the meeting dragged on Arnold and Mentzer began arguing. Mentzer said something derogatory to Arnold which I don’t remember, and Arnold replied, “You didn’t win Olympia last year because your waist was hanging way out, and you won’t win it this year for the same reason.” With that Mentzer lunged at Arnold and several of the officials including Bill Pearl broke it up.
Finally, the pre-judging started. As we stood outside the dressing rooms there was Arnold with his gym bag which removed all doubt that he’d entered. “Do you want to share a dressing room with me, Frank? He asked. “Why are you going to try to psych me out?” “No were making a video (Arnold’s comeback)
and I thought you might like to be in it,” Arnold retorted.” “I’ll pass” I answered and retired to a private room while Tom Platz joined Arnold for a co-starring role in his film. I wondered why Arnold had misled me and gave me the ‘wrong advices.’ Was he getting even for my statement on ABC tv when he asked me how it felt to win Mr. Olympia for the third time and I answered, “It feels even better than when I beat you for Mr. Universe?”
So, pre-judging began with all the comparisons, and I found myself standing next to Arnold, so I said to him “How does it feel competing after not being on stage for 5 years?” “It’s really hard” he said and with that I laughed and went into a most muscular pose. This photo of me laughing next to him appear in his Arnold Encyclopedia with the caption “Arnold tells Zane a joke during the Olympia competition, so he’d break his concentration and laugh.” Not true but no one would know the difference until now.
Pre-judging concluded and I was exhausted, too tired to even leave the Opera House to eat so Christine went out and brought food back as I took a short nap. After eating and feeling a little better we took a short walk outside before the evening show started.
It seemed like everybody was in this contest. Arnold certainly didn’t look his best in pre-judging by he looked much better in the evening show but still not good enough to win. I was impressed with the size Boyer Coe had added, Mentzer looked about as good as he did last Olympia, Dickerson’s ballet posing routine only showed fancy moves but little muscle, and I couldn’t see past Platz’s thighs. I thought I had a chance because I was more defined than anyone. But when judges see you bigger one year and smaller the next the likelihood of winning decreases. It was hard to match my 1979 combination of size, muscularity, and confidence and there was some doubt in my mind as I did my posing routine on stage. The crowd loved it, and this boosted my spirits.
The contest concluded and we waited for the winners to be announced. This has always been the most challenging part of all the competitions in which I’ve participated: waiting for the winner to revealed. Most of the time I knew after pre-judging. It was easy to tell: if you won everybody wanted to be around you, if you didn’t win nobody said much to you. But things could change in the evening show voting if you looked way better or much worse than in the afternoon. If you sweat a lot in pre-judging, you’ll be more muscular at night; if you eat a lot after pre-judging, you may be smoother and puffier at night.
“In sixth place is Roger Walker of Australia” came the voice from the podium. He was in good shape, and they want an Australian to be in the top six I thought. “In 5th place Mike Mentzer USA” “Wow, he’s angrier than hell and can’t believe he’s 5th” I said to myself. “4th place Boyer Coe USA” And at that moment I had a strong feeling that my name would be called next. “In 3rd place Frank Zane USA”. Loud booing from the audience preceded “In second place Chris Dickerson USA” “I guess they like ballet” I thought. And the winner of Mr. Olympia 1980….(who else?)….Arnold Schwarzenegger. I’d accepted my trophy, bowed to the audience, and left the stage. Walking with trophy in hand backstage, I set it down and put on my warm-up suit. Picking up the trophy, the oil from my body had spread to the trophy and it slipped out of my hand, hit the floor, and fell apart.
I leaned over , looked at it and took the name plate off it that spelled Mr. Olympia 1980 third place. And walked out to the back of the auditorium where Arnold was addressing the audience from the stage “This proves once and for all that I am the greatest bodybuilder of all time.” Booing must have gone on for a full minute. “Well, the audience has good taste” I thought. I met Christine and we walked out the backstage door and there were hundreds of people waiting to greet us with cheers. There was a party, but we went back to our hotel, I had a few glasses of wine and went to sleep. The next day we went to a barbecue on the beach across from the Coogee Beach Motel where we stayed. We picked out steaks, cooked them and sat down. “What’s the strongest beer you have” I asked the beer mate. “This one in the white can” I took two. But the booze couldn’t erase what had
happened from my mind. I had a long time to think about it on the flight home. “Why the accident, how freaky, why me? It wasn’t until I realized it that I had created conditions for it’s occurrence by my attitude. I’d spent so much time being angry and resentful, I was “pissed off” when it occurred.
The result was a physical manifestation of this anger: My pissing was off with a smashed urethra. This negative body metaphor had become selffulfilling prophesy. I had created my experience with negative thinking and emotion. Back in California everything got back to normal. Arnold was away making his Conan movie and when he returned, I saw him at World Gym, and he asked me out to breakfast. I had agreed to pose in Columbus Ohio for his Mr. World contest but after the Australia fiasco I refused. Since Arnold had MC’d a contest Christine and I ran that summer I owed him this posing exhibition and when I didn’t do it letters from his attorney began arriving threatening a lawsuit. “Just pay my attorney costs and we’ll call it even” he told me, so I did. Then Arnold explained his contest behavior by comparing it to politics: “Suppose Jimmy Carter approaches Ronald Regan before the election and tells him his plan to win. Regan would be a fool to not take advantage of this information. Competition is about strategy, not friendship.”
He was right. I had mistaken a competitor for a coach. Touché. I didn’t compete the next year. The wise move would have been not to compete in 1980 but enter in 1981. In a fair contest I’d beat Franco Colombu but how fair did it turn out to be? Dickerson thought he had the title only to place second to Colombu whose injured leg looked different than his other one. Judging from what I saw Danny Padilla should have won.
I still wanted to win four Olympias and losing in 1980 fueled my resolve to do so. In 1982 I’d come in bigger, after all the critics said I needed to get bigger.
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For all anyone knows,the judges could be looking for the second place man in this call out.
I`ve seen it quite a few times where the overall winner doesn`t get called much, if at all, because he`s already a shoe in for first place, and the battle is for 2nd. place on down.
Anyway,it`s getting stupid, this was 43 years ago,and nothing will ever change the fact that
"Arnold is numero uno"! :D
It is always interesting to debate things that were controversial. What happened in 1980 re the call outs was the judges put who they wanted to see on a piece of paper and the head judge selected one without seeing what it was. It just happened that the 4 called out didn't include Arnold. Sure, that judge might have already selected Arnold and was looking for the other places. I was there and took this photo. Arnold states that he never likes to do anything where there is doubt about what will happen to him. At the moment when he wasn't in that call out he was worried and that shows in the two photos posted here. Why would his head be down like that if he wasn't worried about what was happening. He surely feared he might not win this contest.
By the way, Les, just because the judges picked the winner doesn't mean the best person won. When Arnold was compared to the top guys he dwarfed them in chest and arms. Calves were good, too. Zane and Dickerson lost in those comparisons. If we go back to the year before this contest then it is clear that Chris Dickerson won several of the pro shows leading up to the 80 Olympia.
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It is always interesting to debate things that were controversial. What happened in 1980 re the call outs was the judges put who they wanted to see on a piece of paper and the head judge selected one without seeing what it was. It just happened that the 4 called out didn't include Arnold. Sure, that judge might have already selected Arnold and was looking for the other places. I was there and took this photo. Arnold states that he never likes to do anything where there is doubt about what will happen to him. At the moment when he wasn't in that call out he was worried and that shows in the two photos posted here. Why would his head be down like that if he wasn't worried about what was happening. He surely feared he might not win this contest.
By the way, Les, just because the judges picked the winner doesn't mean the best person won. When Arnold was compared to the top guys he dwarfed them in chest and arms. Calves were good, too. Zane and Dickerson lost in those comparisons. If we go back to the year before this contest then it is clear that Chris Dickerson won several of the pro shows leading up to the 80 Olympia.
Don´t think Arnold was worried because he knew he would win, Bill pearl said he was very cocky or aggressive on stage doing what he wanted, Roger walker also confirmed this.
He won not because of his physique but because his friends gave him it.
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For all anyone knows,the judges could be looking for the second place man in this call out.
I`ve seen it quite a few times where the overall winner doesn`t get called much, if at all, because he`s already a shoe in for first place, and the battle is for 2nd. place on down.
Anyway,it`s getting stupid, this was 43 years ago,and nothing will ever change the fact that
"Arnold is numero uno"! :D
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also It happened to Dorian when he won his pro card he was such a clear standout after the quarter turn group comparisons he didnt get called.
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also It happened to Dorian when he won his pro card he was such a clear standout after the quarter turn group comparisons he didnt get called.
Yup,at times,the clear cut winner never even gets compared, he`s just so far ahead of the pack there is no need for any comparisons.
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Arnold destroying them stood relaxed there and that's without posing.
How Dickerson was ever Mr O still baffles me.
Fact is arnold came back and they had nothing on him, he looks superior, bigger and more pop in all the main poses, everyone disappeared from the side next to him, even his lat spread actually made the second biggest guys, walkers look not so big.
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Arnold destroying them stood relaxed there and that's without posing.
How Dickerson was ever Mr O still baffles me.
Fact is arnold came back and they had nothing on him, he looks superior, bigger and more pop in all the main poses, everyone disappeared from the side next to him, even his lat spread actually made the second biggest guys, walkers look not so big.
;D :D
Arnold was blowing Paul & the other schmoe old men
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Poor old Zane. First he broke his penis, then he broke his trophy. Mike Mentzer lost the 80 Olympia then later lost the will to live.
There are others even less fortunate. Angry little men who live with regret. 43 years later, still angry at themselves for having listened to the wrong advices. Their only recourse is to, impotently, jab at the Austrian Oak, posting endlessly on internet forums, attempting to detract from Arnold's accomplishments, not having any of their own to focus on instead. Waging a never ending war against reality. Looking in the mirror each morning telling themselves that Arnold stole the 80 Olympia. They cannot come to a consensus on who should've won; they only know that it shouldn't have been Arnold. These people live an empty existence, knowing the lies they tell themselves carry about as much weight as Rocky telling Mick he won the first match against Clubber Laing. Only, unlike Mick, these little men must go on living, knowing the truth.
Their inability to cope makes you wonder: would they trade in the last years of their lives if it would produce total consciousness on their deathbed? To no longer be haunted, daily, by the thought of Arnold's victory propelling him into a superstardom beyond their wildest imagination? Knowing the thoroughly uninspred existence that would come to define their own legacy?
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Mike always insisted the 80 Olympia was fixed. I believe he has a point. After the contest I was given all the judges' score sheets so could do an analysis of it. The big problem with the judging method was the foolish idea of scoring each round. Ben Weider had hoped to have this contest in the Olympic games so adapted a system of judging resembling diving, ice skating and gymnastics. Disaster occurred because they did not standardize the scores for each round. After the first round the scores should have been collected then a score given so that there was room for a higher score. They didn't do this and in all the rounds too many competitors received a 20 out of 20 score. In effect those scores did not separate the men. Multiply this error by 3 and the results are not accurate. The judges who did separate the men had their scores count for more.
A more important revelation was made by John Fair in an article. (link below) Paul Graham promoted the Olympia that year. They were room mates in Los Angeles in late 1968 and early 1969. Paul was arrested on January 29, 1969 in Honolulu by the FBI for sending stolen cars from LA to Australia. Arnold states in Total Recall, that he made some money driving cars to a dock in Los Angeles that were destined for Australia. Paul took the rap himself and spend over 2 years in a California prison. So Paul and Arnold were close. Randy Roach, 'Muscles, Smoke and Mirrors', believes Arnold did not enter until he knew he had the majority of judges who would place him first. Here is where I made an error when writing about the contest. I was standing in the foyer of the Sydney Opera House just before the prejudging. I was with Frank Burwash and Peter McCarthy. Someone came up to Pete and told him the judges meeting has already started. Peter swore and raced off but was told since he missed part of the meeting he was replaced by another judge but he could judge as a spare. Brendan Ryan, who won a Junior Mr Australia contest was a judge. I assumed Paul replaced Peter with Brendan. Nope, Brendan was already selected to judge. Peter was replaced by Dr Michael Walczak. Four of the judges placed Arnold first. Reg Park, Brendan Ryan, Albert Busek, and Mits Kowashima. Walczak placed Dennis Tinerino first and Arnold second. He placed Dickerson 8th. Jacques Blommaert and Dan Howard placed Dickerson first. Arnold was a good friend of Howard's but Dan didn't let that affect his score. There you have it, before the contest Arnold believed that 5 out of the 7 judges would vote for him. 4 did and that was sufficient to win.
Article on the 80 Olympia by John Fair: https://starkcenter.org/igh_article/igh1101p04/
Mostly bs.
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I took the best photos at the prejudging at the 80 Olympia. A year earlier there was a pro bodybuilding contest there and I calculated where the best seat would be to take photos. So I selected a seat at waist level to the competitors on stage and of course in the middle of the Opera House. I had a sturdy tripod and an excellent camera with very good telephoto lenses. I took 360 black and white photos of the judging. At night I took colour slides. Here is an edited photo of 4 of the competitors. I removed all the background distractions.
Yeah and Arnold still looks the best.
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Mentzer said something derogatory to Arnold which I don’t remember, and Arnold replied, “You didn’t win Olympia last year because your waist was hanging way out, and you won’t win it this year for the same reason.” With that Mentzer lunged at Arnold and several of the officials including Bill Pearl broke it up.
Too short. No back development and too much fat in the glutes. He really thought he was going to win. 😀😃😄😁😆😅🤣😂
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When I saw this photo it told the story of the shape Arnold was in. This was the first call out for comparisons and Arnold wasn't in this group. There he is with his head down wondering why he entered the contest. Mike is smiling because he felt the call out meant those guys placed ahead of Arnold. That wasn't to be and when Arnold was called in later groups he rose to the occasion and stole the show.
More fool old meth head. 🤣
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;D One year bro
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Arnold won at just 80% of his best. Mentzer was a sick, weak, mentally ill guy in his 40's. He looked like he could barely walk and picking up a 45lbs plate was a chore for him. Some say it was this contest that ruined him but my view it was his meth drug use and smoking. Zane is always quick to say he beat Arnold. When was that? 1969? Roy Callender looked amazing but was always over looked. Very little Weider coverage for him but he was just as good as Robby. Dickerson for a period in his long contest history for three years looked incredible. I think behind scene knowledge of his gay films that were out there kept him from winning the big one until they couldn't deny him anymore. Coe looked amazing but deserved maybe to be switched out with Zane for third. Mentzer fans cry foul but he came in fifth. No he didn't come in second, third or fourth.
Think Arnold sitting in his various mansions thinking about the 1980 Olympia? Have you seen his spread in Austria?
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i like zanes read/take on the show interesting,,,at the end of the day arnold whipped himself into almost arnold 'shape'in quick time and with modern for that time condition..
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Arnold won at just 80% of his best. Mentzer was a sick, weak, mentally ill guy in his 40's. He looked like he could barely walk and picking up a 45lbs plate was a chore for him. Some say it was this contest that ruined him but my view it was his meth drug use and smoking. Zane is always quick to say he beat Arnold. When was that? 1969? Roy Callender looked amazing but was always over looked. Very little Weider coverage for him but he was just as good as Robby. Dickerson for a period in his long contest history for three years looked incredible. I think behind scene knowledge of his gay films that were out there kept him from winning the big one until they couldn't deny him anymore. Coe looked amazing but deserved maybe to be switched out with Zane for third. Mentzer fans cry foul but he came in fifth. No he didn't come in second, third or fourth.
Think Arnold sitting in his various mansions thinking about the 1980 Olympia? Have you seen his spread in Austria?
Or maybe he caved and sucked the judges dicks...
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Yea, that's pretty embarrassing for the others.
i like zanes read/take on the show interesting,,,at the end of the day arnold whipped himself into almost arnold 'shape'in quick time and with modern for that time condition..
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Poor old Zane. First he broke his penis, then he broke his trophy. Mike Mentzer lost the 80 Olympia then later lost the will to live.
There are others even less fortunate. Angry little men who live with regret. 43 years later, still angry at themselves for having listened to the wrong advices. Their only recourse is to, impotently, jab at the Austrian Oak, posting endlessly on internet forums, attempting to detract from Arnold's accomplishments, not having any of their own to focus on instead. Waging a never ending war against reality. Looking in the mirror each morning telling themselves that Arnold stole the 80 Olympia. They cannot come to a consensus on who should've won; they only know that it shouldn't have been Arnold. These people live an empty existence, knowing the lies they tell themselves carry about as much weight as Rocky telling Mick he won the first match against Clubber Laing. Only, unlike Mick, these little men must go on living, knowing the truth.
Their inability to cope makes you wonder: would they trade in the last years of their lives if it would produce total consciousness on their deathbed? To no longer be haunted, daily, by the thought of Arnold's victory propelling him into a superstardom beyond their wildest imagination? Knowing the thoroughly uninspred existence that would come to define their own legacy?
Arnold used bodybuilding to springboard him into real estate, Hollywood and politics. His drive was for much more than just bodybuilding. Even had Mentzer won the Olympia he never would have achieved anything beyond that. Zane, Dickerson and the rest won the O and never went any further.
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Reading through "Arnold the life of a legend" Barbara Outland said Arnold told her in 1969 he'd be governor of california. That's vision, drive and determination, everything he's wanted he's achieved while others stand by whining about what they can't do etc.
Arnold used bodybuilding to springboard him into real estate, Hollywood and politics. His drive was for much more than just bodybuilding. Even had Mentzer won the Olympia he never would have achieved anything beyond that. Zane, Dickerson and the rest won the O and never went any further.
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Or maybe he caved and sucked the judges dicks...
Arnold took cock & it´s well known ..no one talks about it or wants to hear it but it´s true.
he sold his ass for fame & fortune.
one story was that he was with some others & they needed some dough..Arnold just said wait here & he visited an old schmoe´s mansion ..came back with money to buy all the food..etc.
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Hell...old Joe gave Arnold his wrinkly old cock... :D
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^^^^You are ignoring this loser.
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Arnold used bodybuilding to springboard him into real estate, Hollywood and politics. His drive was for much more than just bodybuilding. Even had Mentzer won the Olympia he never would have achieved anything beyond that. Zane, Dickerson and the rest won the O and never went any further.
Exactly. They either become personal trainers or move on to become regular Joe's. 😃
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Reading through "Arnold the life of a legend" Barbara Outland said Arnold told her in 1969 he'd be governor of california. That's vision, drive and determination, everything he's wanted he's achieved while others stand by whining about what they can't do etc.
Polar opposite of Mentzer.
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Polar opposite of Mentzer.
Mentzer was a menace to Weider empire . At the time Mentzer was a favorite to win the Olympia and his Heavy Duty training was gaining popularity too fast within the industry…
Trashing Arnold’s training methods in his seminars was a direct attack to the so called “ Weider principles “ as well.
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Mentzer was a menace to Weider empire . At the time Mentzer was a favorite to win the Olympia and his Heavy Duty training was gaining popularity too fast within the industry…
Trashing Arnold’s training methods in his seminars was a direct attack to the so called “ Weider principles “ as well.
Complete conspiracy crap. Weider had methzer writing for his magazine espousing all his HIT nonsense. methzer was NEVER a threat to either Arnold or Weider. Hit is no secret. Many books, articles and vids have been made about it. The real reason it never took off is because it simply does not work.
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Complete conspiracy crap. Weider had methzer writing for his magazine espousing all his HIT nonsense. methzer was NEVER a threat to either Arnold or Weider. Hit is no secret. Many books, articles and vids have been made about it. The real reason it never took off is because it simply does not work.
It took a longtime for people to figure that. Many still haven't.
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It took a longtime for people to figure that. Many still haven't.
I can't see why. It's obvious. No top athlete or serious trainer uses meth head's methods. 5 decades of this hit guff and it has failed to deliver. It has had more than enough time to prove itself.
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I can't see why. It's obvious. No top athlete or serious trainer uses meth head's methods. 5 decades of this hit guff and it has failed to deliver. It has had more than enough time to prove itself.
His cult of personality blinds them to the actual results of the training.
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His cult of personality blinds them to the actual results of the training.
methzer had a personality? He always came across as a lifeless bore.
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Arnold as wide as mentzer and zane stood way behind.
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Mike was 10x better than Arnold the Homo
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Mike was 10x better than Arnold the Homo
LOL! FFS. Roger Walker is destroying Mentzer.
Besides it's a well known and documented fact that Arnold likes fat, hideous, Guatemalan Maids.
Mentzer, on the other hand, is known to have had homosexual relations. Gay but not-4-pay.
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Mike was 10x better than Arnold the Homo
Haha, sure he was.
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Haha, sure he was.
Arnold was full off shit..how many gullible young men tried to do his "six day a week, weider double split" & came to a grinding halt?
Dude it´s all BS !
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Arnold used bodybuilding to springboard him into real estate, Hollywood and politics. His drive was for much more than just bodybuilding. Even had Mentzer won the Olympia he never would have achieved anything beyond that. Zane, Dickerson and the rest won the O and never went any further.
Zane at least built a very good business for himself and did things his way. He is very aloof, laid back and a bit odd, so 'acting' was not for him.
Though he gave it a try and did not like it or do well at it... He 'worked for himself' for life (post teaching) so a 'win' in my book...
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Arnold was full off shit..how many gullible young men tried to do his "six day a week, weider double split" & came to a grinding halt?
Dude it´s all BS !
Not many at all.
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Not many at all.
Bro.. ::)
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Bro.. ::)
My nikka...
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When I saw this photo it told the story of the shape Arnold was in. This was the first call out for comparisons and Arnold wasn't in this group. There he is with his head down wondering why he entered the contest. Mike is smiling because he felt the call out meant those guys placed ahead of Arnold. That wasn't to be and when Arnold was called in later groups he rose to the occasion and stole the show.
How did Arnold manage to improve his middle delts, still sloped but very round and looks heavy, probably HGH helped him with his conditioning.
Even his forearms looks great, which was relatively mediocre compared to the rest of his arms (Mentzer is the king of forearms)
I find it stupid to call Arnold weak in 80' Olympia, he dwarves the rest of the lineup so badly, and he has fantastic conditioning, his legs are slimmer, but he is still ahead of the competition in general.
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Zane at least built a very good business for himself and did things his way. He is very aloof, laid back and a bit odd, so 'acting' was not for him.
Though he gave it a try and did not like it or do well at it... He 'worked for himself' for life (post teaching) so a 'win' in my book...
Yeah, Zane fared better than most.
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More conspiracy dribble.
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five of those named competed in the 81 olympia
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I didn't know Don Ross was an IFBB Pro. His Mr America and Mr universe titles were from shitty organizations. He was a fun writer though.
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All salty losers. But meth head was right about one thing, those competing against Arnold were clowns compared to him. Pearl was so full of it. He was just pissed because Dickerson came second as Pearl was training him.
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five of those named competed in the 81 olympia
😆😆😆😆 ikr?
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And this proves what?
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And this proves what?
Who says it proves anything? It's an article , take what you want from it.
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😆😆😆😆 ikr?
not sure what that means
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I love the conspiracy theories about 1980. Especially the ones from 1980 about the CBS film crew, or George Butlers film crew. LOL!
Turns out it was neither. It was Paul Grahams film crew for a shitty little amateur film that no one has ever heard of other than fairly die hard fans of the sport. Hilarious.
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I love the conspiracy theories about 1980. Especially the ones from 1980 about the CBS film crew, or George Butlers film crew. LOL!
Turns out it was neither. It was Paul Grahams film crew for a shitty little amateur film that no one has ever heard of other than fairly die hard fans of the sport. Hilarious.
No shit! They act like the whole world was watching on pins and needles when almost no one even knew it was going on.
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Interesting in those quotes the losers come up with arnold was 60% of his best. There's no way he was that far off, not that it mattered as again they all made the mistake of comparing him to himself!
There are still some great pics of him from 1980 that look amazing for any year.
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Padilla has said in numerous occasions that Arnold at 85% was still good enough to beat anyone in 1980. And he even said Dickerson didn’t deserved to be runner up.
I doubt he “signed” the 1981 infamous open letter.
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Padilla has said in numerous occasions that Arnold at 85% was still good enough to beat anyone in 1980. And he even said Dickerson didn’t deserved to be runner up.
I doubt he “signed” the 1981 infamous open letter.
Arnold was awarded the Mr O not on merit... dude we all know it.
he was or is Bi-sexual & that is OK but he was up Paul Graham´s shit box :D
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Interesting in those quotes the losers come up with arnold was 60% of his best. There's no way he was that far off, not that it mattered as again they all made the mistake of comparing him to himself!
There are still some great pics of him from 1980 that look amazing for any year.
and if they really did say that they are admitting that they would look like children against
a fully trained Arnold.
like Robert Kennedy (rip) said. leave it alone. if Arnold gets pissed off about this contest he
will get serious again and win every single pro show for the next 10 years.
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five of those named competed in the 81 olympia
Actually 8 of them competed.
waller, davis, rodreguez, bannout, tinerino, padilla, callender, dickerson
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Actually 8 of them competed.
waller, davis, rodreguez, bannout, tinerino, padilla, callender, dickerson
yes, i knew i was being conservative. just the ones i could remember off
the top of my head.
also, i believe several on that list weren't even qualified.
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Interesting in those quotes the losers come up with arnold was 60% of his best. There's no way he was that far off, not that it mattered as again they all made the mistake of comparing him to himself!
There are still some great pics of him from 1980 that look amazing for any year.
Yeah, he was competing against them not himself.
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Norms footage on the 80 Olympia, he was there and shot some footage.
I used to get together w/ Norm once a year (w/ he and D-Mass).
RIP Norm... What a guy..
i=laiNoAxhIBViWGaT
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Have thos footage on dvd, everyone looks elongated, strange, everyone's legs look long and narrow. Something odd with the aspect ratio
Norms footage on the 80 Olympia, he was there and shot some footage.
I used to get together w/ Norm once a year (w/ he and D-Mass).
RIP Norm... What a guy..
i=laiNoAxhIBViWGaT
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Have thos footage on dvd, everyone looks elongated, strange, everyone's legs look long and narrow. Something odd with the aspect ratio
Arnold looked like shit bro...
Hope this helps
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Arnold looked like shit bro...
Hope this helps
Yet he won. 😆
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Yet he won. 😆
Yeah but how :D
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Yeah but how :D
Simple. He was the best that day 💪
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Arnold looked like shit bro...
Hope this helps
But better than anyone else.
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Arnold looked like shit bro...
Hope this helps
It Might help......
if you tell us who was better
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHh 1980
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Imagine looking that shit!
But better than anyone else.
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Here's Danny Padilla take on 1980 Olympia controversy ..... from the 11:35 mark
Btw , I agree 100 % with Danny
hope this help...
WooooSHHHHHHHHHH OCT 4th 1980
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Here's Danny Padilla take on 1980 Olympia controversy ..... from the 11:35 mark
Btw , I agree 100 % with Danny
hope this help...
WooooSHHHHHHHHHH OCT 4th 1980
Danny was always the more level headed when it came to these "controversial" contests. He was 100% right. Arnold won but barely.
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Who says it proves anything? It's an article , take what you want from it.
An article just to keep the "controversy" going. Fact is they were all salty losers. Pearl, Walker, Coe, Zane and especially old meth head.
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Funny how they all say Arnold should not have won but none of them can tell you should have won! ( well Mentzer did but he always said himself. lol. I remember at 16 years old and i was working out at a gym in Toledo Ohio and one day my training partner said he just heard that Arnold had won. I was excited to see the pictures ( always about 3 months or so after the shows the magazines had pics) And when I got the magazine I remember seeing Arnold and I thought to myself about how bad he looked. BUT then I seen him with the others and said oh ok he won. The reason I felt bad was because I expected him to look like ARNOLD. He of course didn't. BUT he was still better than everyone else but not by a whole lot like he used to be. Even he admitted it. So case closed. Arnold didn't look like Arnold but he didn't have to. He just had to be better than everyone else which he was. The contest was close but he still deserved to win
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Funny how they all say Arnold should not have won but none of them can tell you should have won! ( well Mentzer did but he always said himself. lol. I remember at 16 years old and i was working out at a gym in Toledo Ohio and one day my training partner said he just heard that Arnold had won. I was excited to see the pictures ( always about 3 months or so after the shows the magazines had pics) And when I got the magazine I remember seeing Arnold and I thought to myself about how bad he looked. BUT then I seen him with the others and said oh ok he won. The reason I felt bad was because I expected him to look like ARNOLD. He of course didn't. BUT he was still better than everyone else but not by a whole lot like he used to be. Even he admitted it. So case closed. Arnold didn't look like Arnold but he didn't have to. He just had to be better than everyone else which he was. The contest was close but he still deserved to win
Good summary.
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Funny how they all say Arnold should not have won but none of them can tell you should have won! ( well Mentzer did but he always said himself. lol. I remember at 16 years old and i was working out at a gym in Toledo Ohio and one day my training partner said he just heard that Arnold had won. I was excited to see the pictures ( always about 3 months or so after the shows the magazines had pics) And when I got the magazine I remember seeing Arnold and I thought to myself about how bad he looked. BUT then I seen him with the others and said oh ok he won. The reason I felt bad was because I expected him to look like ARNOLD. He of course didn't. BUT he was still better than everyone else but not by a whole lot like he used to be. Even he admitted it. So case closed. Arnold didn't look like Arnold but he didn't have to. He just had to be better than everyone else which he was. The contest was close but he still deserved to win
The good old days when we used to wait months to see contest pics and results. ;D
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The schmoes of yesteryear need to teach the schmoes of today about patience and the excitement of schmoeticipation
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Funny how they all say Arnold should not have won but none of them can tell you should have won! ( well Mentzer did but he always said himself. lol. I remember at 16 years old and i was working out at a gym in Toledo Ohio and one day my training partner said he just heard that Arnold had won. I was excited to see the pictures ( always about 3 months or so after the shows the magazines had pics) And when I got the magazine I remember seeing Arnold and I thought to myself about how bad he looked. BUT then I seen him with the others and said oh ok he won. The reason I felt bad was because I expected him to look like ARNOLD. He of course didn't. BUT he was still better than everyone else but not by a whole lot like he used to be. Even he admitted it. So case closed. Arnold didn't look like Arnold but he didn't have to. He just had to be better than everyone else which he was. The contest was close but he still deserved to win
I was wondering if you remember the name of the gym in Toledo you worked out at by chance?
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Norms footage on the 80 Olympia, he was there and shot some footage.
I used to get together w/ Norm once a year (w/ he and D-Mass).
RIP Norm... What a guy..
i=laiNoAxhIBViWGaT
Norm Hebert ???
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Funny how they all say Arnold should not have won but none of them can tell you should have won! ( well Mentzer did but he always said himself. lol. I remember at 16 years old and i was working out at a gym in Toledo Ohio and one day my training partner said he just heard that Arnold had won. I was excited to see the pictures ( always about 3 months or so after the shows the magazines had pics) And when I got the magazine I remember seeing Arnold and I thought to myself about how bad he looked. BUT then I seen him with the others and said oh ok he won. The reason I felt bad was because I expected him to look like ARNOLD. He of course didn't. BUT he was still better than everyone else but not by a whole lot like he used to be. Even he admitted it. So case closed. Arnold didn't look like Arnold but he didn't have to. He just had to be better than everyone else which he was. The contest was close but he still deserved to win
That is exactly why 1980 was,is and will be the most controversial BB contest in history.
Sure people will often say 1981 was worse ... saying either Platz or Padilla should have won it.
or in 2007 V. Martinez was the uncrowned mrO , or Shawn Ray 96' ,Sergio 72' or Nasser 97' ....etc
But when you ask who is the uncrowned 1980 mrO ?
better get your soda and pop corn ready ;D
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Oct4th 1980
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That is exactly why 1980 was,is and will be the most controversial BB contest in history.
Sure people will often say 1981 was worse ... saying either Platz or Padilla should have won it.
or in 2007 V. Martinez was the uncrowned mrO , or Shawn Ray 96' ,Sergio 72' or Nasser 97' ....etc
But when you ask who is the uncrowned 1980 mrO ?
better get your soda and pop corn ready ;D
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Oct4th 1980
There is no uncrowned 1980 Mr olympia. There was only Arnold. He beat them all as he WAS the best that day. The losers like Coe and Zane can cry foul as much as they want but the fact is they could not beat an 80% Arnold. 😆
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There is no uncrowned 1980 Mr olympia. There was only Arnold. He beat them all as he WAS the best that day. The losers like Coe and Zane can cry foul as much as they want but the fact is they could not beat an 80% Arnold. 😆
But Zane did beat Arnold once...
Bloated fake drug muscles, serious bidness!!
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But Zane did beat Arnold once...
Bloated fake drug muscles, serious bidness!!
Only when Arnold wasn't prepared. He wasn't as ripped and did not have a tan in his first encounter with Zane. Arnold learned from his mistakes and went on to beat Zane numerous times. Zane is just another salty loser. Apparently he was heard crying in his room after the contest. So much for the Zen master. 😆
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Only when Arnold wasn't prepared. He wasn't a ripped and did not have a tan in his first encounter with Zane. Arnold learned from his mistakes and went on to beat Zane numerous times. Zane is just another salty loser. Apparently he was heard crying in his room after the contest. So much for the Zen master. 😆
Hahaha! Excellent point! He threw a temper tantrum and broke his trophy. Now, 40 odd years later he says he accidentally knocked it over and it broke accidentally.
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Dickerson should have won in 1980 and 81
but not in 82.
Its density, proportions and dryness were ahead of all.
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Dickerson should have won in 1980 and 81
but not in 82.
Its density, proportions and dryness were ahead of all.
No way they put someone that short over Arnold.
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Dickerson should have won in 1980 and 81
but not in 82.
Its density, proportions and dryness were ahead of all.
Dickerson, too short, too small, weird droopy chest, no biceps. Seriously, how was he ever going to dominate over a superior like Arnold?
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I remember seeing the mags and wondering how the hell dickerson was winning any shows. No symmetry no proportions and so small. Period. That was before I learned he was a fag. Then it made sense.
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Dickerson, too short, too small, weird droopy chest, no biceps. Seriously, how was he ever going to dominate over a superior like Arnold?
At the time , All seven judges said Chris had the best legs/calves in the top six.... Platz wasn't even in the conversation back then
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Dickerson should have won in 1980 and 81
but not in 82.
Its density, proportions and dryness were ahead of all.
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Whatever your smoking - Stop.
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Whatever your smoking - Stop.
I said the judges felt that way , not me
WoooSHHHHHHHHHH Oct 4th 1980
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I said the judges felt that way , not me
WoooSHHHHHHHHHH Oct 4th 1980
Arnold owning gay boy Chris Dick in son.
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Yep even his quads look better, so what they didn't look like overgrown turnips.
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I read last 3 pages interesting writing there,comments,outcomes..almost anti arnold.and arnold daying its greed now that contests involve money he claims he competed for love of the sport not the money,,lol wasnt he a millionaire by then or close with real estate.the other guys were broke.
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Norms footage on the 80 Olympia, he was there and shot some footage.
I used to get together w/ Norm once a year (w/ he and D-Mass).
RIP Norm... What a guy..
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What happened to NORM?? I watched his videos and always wondered??
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Died 10 years ago! Probably of cancer, can't quite remember.
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What happened to NORM?? I watched his videos and always wondered??
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Yep. This is how exactly it was. Arnold won but barely. There was no fix. That's just a conspiracy conjured up by Coe, Zane and most of all that dead old junkie meth head so they could discredit Arnold. Another reason Arnold entered the olympia was because he helped Zane in his preparation in the last Olympia. When Arnold asked Zane what it felt like to win the Olympia Zane retorted "Well Arnold, it fells almost as good as when I beat you." That's was an slap in the face to Arnold who had helped Zane and Zane just spat it back in his face on live tv. Zane the so called Zen Master. He was nothing of the sort and actually quite the asshole.
Course there was that deadbeat junkie methzer. He was going around bashing Arnold in the magazines making out that his Heavy Duty system was superior than Arnold's way of training. Arnold had stated that methzer had found what worked for him. He didn't agree with it but left it at that. But methzer had to just go out and slag Arnold of at every opportunity just to sell his crappy way of training.
They say Arnold is an asshole but in actual fact these guys were the real assholes. Once Arnold had retired they were all going around running their mouths off at Schwarzenegger. Fortunately he put them in their place by beating them in the contest. Their petty little minds and fragile egos couldn't handle it. Zane smashed his trophy then went to his room to cry. Coe threw a childish tantrum and meth head had a complete break down.
Arnold was the clear winner. No fix. No conspiracy. Just a bunch of salty jealous b-list bodybuilders who thought they were better than they actually were who didn't like the fact they got their asses handed to them by Arnold. He had the last laugh.
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Arnold Schwarzenegger made an appearance on the highly rated television program 'The Mike Walsh Show' preaching the benefits of bodybuilding for both men and women.
At this point in time Arnold had not shared his intention of competing in the 1980 Mr Olympia title in Sydney, Australia.
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Arnold Schwarzenegger made an appearance on the highly rated television program 'The Mike Walsh Show' preaching the benefits of bodybuilding for both men and women.
At this point in time Arnold had not shared his intention of competing in the 1980 Mr Olympia title in Sydney, Australia.
Funny how in recent years Padilla ,Banout and Platz say they knew all along that Arnold was entering the O,
you can't find a single article video or audio from the first 20 years after 1980 Olympia of them saying so ....
they were all in shock when Arnold was announced as a competitor in Sidney.
In reality, only Franco knew for certain.
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Back in the day The Olympia was taped and after Weider publications milked the entire contest photos articles in magazines, then months later the contest would finally be shown on tv ... Even the Lee Haney years" were on ESPN months after the actual show......
Dorian Yates has said in several occasions that Arnold did in fact bough the CBS footage as soon as he could so no one could air it.
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Why would he buy the cbs footage when he won and there's loads of other film out there? How the hell would dorian know, he's not friends with arnold, he'd only have that idea coz someone else probably made up some shit and told him.
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Back in the day The Olympia was taped and after Weider publications milked the entire contest photos articles in magazines, then months later the contest would finally be shown on tv ... Even the Lee Haney years" were on ESPN months after the actual show......
Dorian Yates has said in several occasions that Arnold did in fact bough the CBS footage as soon as he could so no one could air it.
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More conspiracy bs. There's no evidence that cbs were even there. There's plenty of footage of the 1980 olympia that shows what actually went on. The footage of methzer saying this is bullshit is so satisfying to watch. He really thought he was going to win. What a berk.
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I wonder what kind of shape Larry Scott was in 1980. He’d be turning 42 eight days after the show which seems kind of old for competitive bodybuilding back then. Upon further schmoesearch, I see he made a comeback of some sort and didn’t place well in ‘79
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I wonder what kind of shape Larry Scott was in 1980. He’d be turning 42 eight days after the show which seems kind of old for competitive bodybuilding back then. Upon further schmoesearch, I see he made a comeback of some sort and didn’t place well in ‘79
Lou in 1980 ! One can only wonder
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I wonder what kind of shape Larry Scott was in 1980. He’d be turning 42 eight days after the show which seems kind of old for competitive bodybuilding back then. Upon further schmoesearch, I see he made a comeback of some sort and didn’t place well in ‘79
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I've seen a few pics of the time between the '79 - '80 comeback, it was like the above. He looked great, but old against the new crop.
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Why would he buy the cbs footage when he won and there's loads of other film out there? How the hell would dorian know, he's not friends with arnold, he'd only have that idea coz someone else probably made up some shit and told him.
It’s known that Arnold and Dorian aren’t friends, That’s exactly why Dorian says that Arnold bought the infamous footage so people couldn’t see clearly that Mentzer was better in 1980 Lol.
I have heard him mention it on several occasions throughout the years in videos /expos. including the Valuteintment “ interview.
Look it up.
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Lou in 1980 ! One can only wonder
If Lou competed from '76-'83 he would have 8 Olympia titles. He had to be in great shape for the Hulk tv show anyway.
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FOR whatever reasons all stated here and in the print'article'this last few pages'arnold'did enough to win.to his credit a lot changed from his other mro wins due to much deeper lineup and how much bbing changed from 75 his peak year.
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Arnold didn’t think mentzer was a bad bodybuilder in fact he viewed him as his main competition for the 80 Olympia
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Arnold looked like a lean dry champ that's for sure
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Here's Dorian saying Arnold bought 1980 mrO videos lol ............. but Dorian was a Mentzer's guy so there's that ;D
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Here's Dorian saying Arnold bought 1980 mrO videos lol ............. but Dorian was a Mentzer's guy so there's that ;D
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Yates, like methzer, is full of shit.
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Arnold didn’t think mentzer was a bad bodybuilder in fact he viewed him as his main competition for the 80 Olympia
Not really. Zane was the guy Arnold had to beat. methzer barely showed up on the Oak's radar.
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Not really. Zanne was the guy Arnold had to beat. methzer barely showed up on the Oak's radar.
Yeah, Zane was 3X defending champ.
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Ok guys this the last time I tell you this. CBS was NOT there!!! Arnold told people he was going to do the commentary for CBS ( wide world of sports) because they were asking if he was going to compete ( he was getting big again for the movie Conan). So he told them that. Plus when they would have seen him on the plane they would have been suspicious as well. Plus he didn't want the sissy nancies pulling out of the show if they knew he was competing and then ruin it for the promoter. So they did NOT know until Arnold showed up to the athletes meeting. Then everyone knew they lost and got all pissed. He beat them before he even got on stage . Bunch of weak people. There now there should be no more discussion on if CBS was there. They were NOT.
And Dorian? Again a person who has nothing but bodybuilding. Everyone wants to be like Arnold. Rich movie star famous etc. But Arnold knew back then there was no money in bodybuilding. He used it as a stepping stone. He won 1000 dollars for all of his olympia wins except in 1980. And then only because he was increasing prize money at his contests. So he worked his ass off to get where he is. He got bodybuilding to be popular. He went on tv . Talk shows commercials . He did charity work. He was already a millionaire in the early 70s from his real estate and other business ventures outside of bodybuilding. These people like meth head and dorian and coleman and pretty much everyone else thinks they will be Arnold just by winning a contest. Then sitting around waiting for everything to fall into their lap. Smh. Then they retire and have nothing. Their bodys are shot. They have no real income and have to do personal training etc. Dorian is full of shit. He was a chemical experiment taken to the extreme and looked what happened. No one knows who the fuck he is outside of bodybuilding. He thought Arnold dissed him when Arnold said this " and this guy from england comes over and wins the olympia and then goes back to england and no one knows who he is" Dorian took that as a insult. He thought he was on Arnolds level or even "above" it. Smh . When Arnold said that he was talking about how bodybuilding is dying. No one is doing anything for the sport like he did. ( tv shows commercials prison seminars charity events etc ) There so now everyone knows
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Oh and one last thing . Arnold NEVER worried about Methhead Mike. He in fact didn't worry about any of them. They were all good but Arnold knew he was better. His mind set never let him think otherwise except once with Sergio. So no he wasn't worried. He knew zane couldn't because zane called him for advice after he got his balls cut from a lawn chair. He NEVER put down Mikes training or anyone elses. He always said that "mike found a training system that worked for him" and things like that. He did say that people like Methhead and franco both have powerful looking bodies but when they flex nothing really changes. He said they need to do more sets more reps more exercises and train more often to give their body a different look ( or something like that) and it is true. He wasn't putting them down but bodybuilders who trained like Arnold and the rest had more "pop" in the poses. Look at these bag of shits nowdays. They all look the same and they don't "pop" when they pose. And wtf is this posing with their tounges all hanging out and pushing their legs against each other and straining. Looks like they are constipated and trying to take a shit. Posing should be gracefull and asthetic and smooth and look like they are not flexing hard etc. Bodybuilding is dead and its because of the rich schmoes and other idiots who just want to see "freaks".
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Good posts, spot on.
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Oh and one last thing . Arnold NEVER worried about Methhead Mike. He in fact didn't worry about any of them. They were all good but Arnold knew he was better. His mind set never let him think otherwise except once with Sergio. So no he wasn't worried. He knew zane couldn't because zane called him for advice after he got his balls cut from a lawn chair. He NEVER put down Mikes training or anyone elses. He always said that "mike found a training system that worked for him" and things like that. He did say that people like Methhead and franco both have powerful looking bodies but when they flex nothing really changes. He said they need to do more sets more reps more exercises and train more often to give their body a different look ( or something like that) and it is true. He wasn't putting them down but bodybuilders who trained like Arnold and the rest had more "pop" in the poses. Look at these bag of shits nowdays. They all look the same and they don't "pop" when they pose. And wtf is this posing with their tounges all hanging out and pushing their legs against each other and straining. Looks like they are constipated and trying to take a shit. Posing should be gracefull and asthetic and smooth and look like they are not flexing hard etc. Bodybuilding is dead and its because of the rich schmoes and other idiots who just want to see "freaks".
agree to all points.
and why the fuk do they have to fondle their glutes and hamstrings on stage. fukkin gross.
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Oh and one last thing . Arnold NEVER worried about Methhead Mike. He in fact didn't worry about any of them. They were all good but Arnold knew he was better. His mind set never let him think otherwise except once with Sergio. So no he wasn't worried. He knew zane couldn't because zane called him for advice after he got his balls cut from a lawn chair. He NEVER put down Mikes training or anyone elses. He always said that "mike found a training system that worked for him" and things like that. He did say that people like Methhead and franco both have powerful looking bodies but when they flex nothing really changes. He said they need to do more sets more reps more exercises and train more often to give their body a different look ( or something like that) and it is true. He wasn't putting them down but bodybuilders who trained like Arnold and the rest had more "pop" in the poses. Look at these bag of shits nowdays. They all look the same and they don't "pop" when they pose. And wtf is this posing with their tounges all hanging out and pushing their legs against each other and straining. Looks like they are constipated and trying to take a shit. Posing should be gracefull and asthetic and smooth and look like they are not flexing hard etc. Bodybuilding is dead and its because of the rich schmoes and other idiots who just want to see "freaks".
It has degraded into Nothingness... good that the footage of the 70ies and 80ies is still around.
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Ok guys this the last time I tell you this. CBS was NOT there!!! Arnold told people he was going to do the commentary for CBS ( wide world of sports) because they were asking if he was going to compete ( he was getting big again for the movie Conan). So he told them that. Plus when they would have seen him on the plane they would have been suspicious as well. Plus he didn't want the sissy nancies pulling out of the show if they knew he was competing and then ruin it for the promoter. So they did NOT know until Arnold showed up to the athletes meeting. Then everyone knew they lost and got all pissed. He beat them before he even got on stage . Bunch of weak people. There now there should be no more discussion on if CBS was there. They were NOT.
And Dorian? Again a person who has nothing but bodybuilding. Everyone wants to be like Arnold. Rich movie star famous etc. But Arnold knew back then there was no money in bodybuilding. He used it as a stepping stone. He won 1000 dollars for all of his olympia wins except in 1980. And then only because he was increasing prize money at his contests. So he worked his ass off to get where he is. He got bodybuilding to be popular. He went on tv . Talk shows commercials . He did charity work. He was already a millionaire in the early 70s from his real estate and other business ventures outside of bodybuilding. These people like meth head and dorian and coleman and pretty much everyone else thinks they will be Arnold just by winning a contest. Then sitting around waiting for everything to fall into their lap. Smh. Then they retire and have nothing. Their bodys are shot. They have no real income and have to do personal training etc. Dorian is full of shit. He was a chemical experiment taken to the extreme and looked what happened. No one knows who the fuck he is outside of bodybuilding. He thought Arnold dissed him when Arnold said this " and this guy from england comes over and wins the olympia and then goes back to england and no one knows who he is" Dorian took that as a insult. He thought he was on Arnolds level or even "above" it. Smh . When Arnold said that he was talking about how bodybuilding is dying. No one is doing anything for the sport like he did. ( tv shows commercials prison seminars charity events etc ) There so now everyone knows
I guess there's no point mentioning Kai Greene and his Generation Iron movie .
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Now that, that's what I call insulting!
I've always heard Boyer, Samir, Danny, all of them tell it that Arnold said "you lost the Mr. Olympia because of your big belly."
Which always seemed childish and non-sequitor to me. But this makes sense. Arnold actually said "Mentzer, the only thing bigger than your mouth is your belly". Hahahaha Roflol!!! You know Mike's psyche was shattered at that exact moment!!!
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Days after the 1980 Mr. Olympia took place, Top competitor Boyer Coe was asked to watch and inspect the complete footage that was filmed on Sydney; from the arrival of Athletes to Arnold receiving the Sandow trophy on stage while being completely drowned by a massive booing at Opera house ....
Boyer couldn't believe his eyes and told producer " there's no way this can air on national tv! "
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Arnold went on to controversially win his seventh Olympia title. Crowd favorite Heavy duty legend Mike Mentzer finished fifth. Neither ever competed again!.
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BDB Padilla Owning Mentzer , Padilla placed out of top ten ....
never complained about Arnold winning.
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There was definitely tv crew filming both on and off stage ......
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FDF Padilla Owning Mentzer , Padilla placed out of top ten ....
never complained about Arnold winning.
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How methzer could place 5th with a undeveloped back like that? He should've been placed a lot lower.
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There was definitely tv crew filming both on and off stage ......
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHh can HULU pull it off ?
Wasn't cbs though. And footage has been released which you can easily find on YT.
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Boyer couldn't believe his eyes and told producer " there's no way this can air on national tv! "
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So Coe says but most likely BS.
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FDB Padilla Owning Mentzer , Padilla placed out of top ten ....
never complained about Arnold winning.
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There's no way was this can air on national tv!? What Arnold dwarfing Coe himself and everyone else for that matter, schooling them at only 80%.
Why would a perfect reaction need to be broadcast anyway, it would have no effect on viewership or ratings or piss off the average person watching at home.
Ive heard the booing going on for ages and drowing out cheers was bullshit anyway, there were boos but plenty of cheers too.
Yea there was a film crew there making "the comeback" or "total rebuild".
So Coe says but most likely BS.
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There's no way was this can air on national tv!? What Arnold dwarfing Coe himself and everyone else for that matter, schooling them at only 80%.
Why would a perfect reaction need to be broadcast anyway, it would have no effect on viewership or ratings or piss off the average person watching at home.
Ive heard the booing going on for ages and drowing out cheers was bullshit anyway, there were boos but plenty of cheers too.
Yea there was a film crew there making "the comeback" or "total rebuild".
No, the booing was loud and lasted for some time. Eventually the audience did applaud Arnold. I had a friend take a movie of the posedown and presentation but he was so excited about Roger Walker that he kept stamping his feet and the film was ruined. I should have the audio, though. Must get the movie from my ex and have it processed. Then I will post the sound track here which should stop all this speculation.
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No, the booing was loud and lasted for some time. Eventually the audience did applaud Arnold. I had a friend take a movie of the posedown and presentation but he was so excited about Roger Walker that he kept stamping his feet and the film was ruined. I should have the audio, though. Must get the movie from my ex and have it processed. Then I will post the sound track here which should stop all this speculation.
Sure, a "friend"...
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Sure, a "friend"...
Full homo.
No homo here! Geoff Stannard was the guy taking the movie. I was in the row behind taking photos. I even got John Balik a seat beside me for the finals.
I believe the booing was because the audience favoured Chris Dickerson who gave an artistic presentation. Arnold was popular in Australia and this is the first time
he was booed. The MC interviewed Arnold but the crowd kept booing. Eventually the booing stopped and applause emerged for Arnold.
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Some people were booing like at most contests. Had Dickerson won different people in the crowd would have been booing. The video shows most cheering after the decision.
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Some people were booing like at most contests. Had Dickerson won different people in the crowd would have been booing. The video shows most cheering after the decision.
The video was edited to remove most of the booing. Like I said I have the audio recording. Will have it restored so we can listen to it and end this silly discussion.
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The video was edited to remove most of the booing. Like I said I have the audio recording. Will have it restored so we can listen to it and end this silly discussion.
You can actually see the majority cheering in the film. You couldn't edit that in 1980.
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Yea i remember seeing that. Vinces story is the one i remember though that booing eventually changed to cheering.
You can actually see the majority cheering in the film. You couldn't edit that in 1980.
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There's no way was this can air on national tv!? What Arnold dwarfing Coe himself and everyone else for that matter, schooling them at only 80%.
Why would a perfect reaction need to be broadcast anyway, it would have no effect on viewership or ratings or piss off the average person watching at home.
Ive heard the booing going on for ages and drowing out cheers was bullshit anyway, there were boos but plenty of cheers too.
Yea there was a film crew there making "the comeback" or "total rebuild".
The total Rebuild " made no sense as only featured Arnold making comments days after the contest was over, him being already back in USA , and Tom Platz who wasn't even top ten in the contest lol .....
All the real footage of actual contest with Bill pearl as commentator interviewing contestants both during and after contest has never been released.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=1466058;image)
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The total Rebuild " made no sense as only featured Arnold making comments days after the contest was over, him being already back in USA , and Tom Platz who wasn't even top ten in the contest lol .....
All the real footage of actual contest with Bill pearl as commentator interviewing contestants both during and after contest has never been released.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=1466058;image)
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Wasn't cbs though.
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You can actually see the majority cheering in the film. You couldn't edit that in 1980.
During the editing, You can pretty much pick and choose cheering and applause from other segments of the film prior the results, according to Zane,Coe,Duval, Mentzer,Dickerson etc ...that's what happened.
The Total Rebuilt was a joke ... And none of competitors wanted part in it ...besides Banout, Platz and Padilla who at the time weren't as relevant.
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Wasn't cbs though.
yes it was .
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yes it was .
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Nope. Never there.
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So who really knows or can confirm CBS presence? I see plenty online regarding yet not one photo of them ever being there. None of the TV crews nor the cameras have any identifying CBS logos that would otherwise be present
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So who really knows or can confirm CBS presence? I see plenty online regarding yet not one photo of them ever being there. None of the TV crews nor the cameras have any identifying CBS logos that would otherwise be present
It don´t matter ...Arnold never really won :D
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1980 Olympia results
1. Arnold Schwarzenegger
2. Chris Dick in Son
3. Frank Zane
4. Boyer Coe
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So who really knows or can confirm CBS presence? I see plenty online regarding yet not one photo of them ever being there. None of the TV crews nor the cameras have any identifying CBS logos that would otherwise be present
Exactly. Even Cbs have never confirmed it.
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Exactly. Even Cbs have never confirmed it.
That's what I thought too but the pic of Pearl in a suit holding a microphone that has the CBS logo on it. Still have no idea how that works. There's been demand for it for years. Perhaps it was planned but crew never went? Or something else bumped it off the TV schedule? Who can say why it was not aired ? As the promoter of the show I would imagine that Paul Graham would've been I volved in some way. And he was just a puppet promoter for Arnold. Maybe Arnold himself thought 'I can't let this be aired on TV. There's boos in the audience, I look like shit compared to my previous shape. This could damage my movie career.' Who knows? But the thought that CBS executives gave a shit about "controversy" or made decisions based on what Boyer Coe or MM or Zane had to say? Baldetdash!
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That's what I thought too but the pic of Pearl in a suit holding a microphone that has the CBS logo on it. Still have no idea how that works. There's been demand for it for years. Perhaps it was planned but crew never went? Or something else bumped it off the TV schedule? Who can say why it was not aired ? As the promoter of the show I would imagine that Paul Graham would've been I volved in some way. And he was just a puppet promoter for Arnold. Maybe Arnold himself thought 'I can't let this be aired on TV. There's boos in the audience, I look like shit compared to my previous shape. This could damage my movie career.' Who knows? But the thought that CBS executives gave a shit about "controversy" or made decisions based on what Boyer Coe or MM or Zane had to say? Baldetdash!
No cbs logo on that camera. But everything else is spot on. Although the idea that Arnold didn't want it to be aired is void since the photos of the olympia would be published and the fact that he made the short film Total Rebuild centring around his 1980 comeback I don't think Arnold had any issues with his appearance.
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No need to not like his appearance, apart from his quads being slender in some shots he looked great, lean, dry and vascular.
No cbs logo on that camera. But everything else is spot on. Although the idea that Arnold didn't want it to be aired is void since the photos of the olympia would be published and the fact that he made the short film Total Rebuild centring around his 1980 comeback I don't think Arnold had any issues with his appearance.
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There's no way was this can air on national tv!? What Arnold dwarfing Coe himself and everyone else for that matter, schooling them at only 80%.
Why would a perfect reaction need to be broadcast anyway, it would have no effect on viewership or ratings or piss off the average person watching at home.
Ive heard the booing going on for ages and drowing out cheers was bullshit anyway, there were boos but plenty of cheers too.
Yea there was a film crew there making "the comeback" or "total rebuild".
Lol After some research" I think Boyer meant that when he actually sat down and got to see the UNEDITTED footage, the loud booing when Arnold was announced the winner was evident .... also, Bill Pearl interviewed top contestants giving their impressions back stage regarding the results and basically, they were trashing the Judges and Arnolds shape lol .......you could even hear the crowd still booing at that point ....
Remember, Arnold wanted to use his comeback victory to promote his image for the Conan movie , but that footage alone on national tv was probably do the opposite had it air as taped.... same for Weider and IFBB image.
Judging from CBS film ,for some stranger reason Roger walker and Dickerson seemed more dense and were crowd favorites at that point the crew even followed them more than Arnold himself .... As Arnold was looking like a 3rd place finisher
So It looks like Arnold and friends agreed to keep the footage "for free" to release it at some point during the Conan premier (18 months later?) .... but Arnold knew better. ;D
WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHH Barracuda Mode
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Lol After some research" I think Boyer meant that when he actually sat down and got to see the UNEDITTED footage, the loud booing when Arnold was announced the winner was evident .... also, Bill Pearl interviewed top contestants giving their impressions back stage regarding the results and basically, they were trashing the Judges and Arnolds shape lol .......you could even hear the crowd still booing at that point ....
Remember, Arnold wanted to use his comeback victory to promote his image for the Conan movie , but that footage alone on national tv was probably do the opposite had it air as taped.... same for Weider and IFBB image.
Judging from CBS film ,for some stranger reason Roger walker and Dickerson seemed more dense and were crowd favorites at that point the crew even followed them more than Arnold himself .... As Arnold was looking like a 3rd place finisher
So It looks like Arnold and friends agreed to keep the footage "for free" to release it at some point during the Conan premier (18 months later?) .... but Arnold knew better. ;D
WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHH Barracuda Mode
Yeah you're making it all up now.
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No cbs logo on that camera. But everything else is spot on. Although the idea that Arnold didn't want it to be aired is void since the photos of the olympia would be published and the fact that he made the short film Total Rebuild centring around his 1980 comeback I don't think Arnold had any issues with his appearance.
Might be the CBS logo on the mic that Bill Pearl is holding.
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Like I always said, Dickerson should have won
Olympia 80 & 81 but not 82.
His density and back (+legs&calves) were unmatched.
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Like I always said, Dickerson should have won
Olympia 80 & 81 but not 82.
His density and back (+legs&calves) were unmatched.
No way. He looked like a flea next to Arnold.
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A droopy lopsided flea. Arnold looked better in the mandatories and they all disappeared from the side compared to him.
No way. He looked like a flea next to Arnold.
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A droopy lopsided flea. Arnold looked better in the mandatories and they all disappeared from the side compared to him.
Dickerson was lucky to win in '82.
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So who really knows or can confirm CBS presence? I see plenty online regarding yet not one photo of them ever being there. None of the TV crews nor the cameras have any identifying CBS logos that would otherwise be present
Hope this helps
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Oct 4th 1980
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Ok, I see that now. Never saw this picture before or noticed the mic
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Cbs were never there.
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Cbs were never there.
Obviously, CBS was there.
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Cbs were never there.
Hi Arnold.
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Vincent Basil was there, he can confirm...
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This was one heck of an Olympia- still talking about it 43 years later lol
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In 43 years, it will still be discussed on Getbig ;D
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In 43 years, it will still be discussed on Getbig ;D
We will all be dead.
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WHO SHOULD HAVE WON THE 1980 MR OLYMPIA CONTEST?
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We will all be dead.
I'm priming my son to carry the torch.
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WHO SHOULD HAVE WON THE 1980 MR OLYMPIA CONTEST?
Arnold won. Case closed. The hit cult can shove it sideways.
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I'm priming my son to carry the torch.
For Getbig or the Olympia?
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WHO SHOULD HAVE WON THE 1980 MR OLYMPIA CONTEST?
Great editing job, who did this ? a Mentzer/Getbigger ?
Just in this thread alone you can find interviews/audio of Padilla saying Arnold won despite not being 100 %
Tinerino had a great point of why this is the most controversial Olympia
Never mind Arnolds shape; Any pro bodybuilder would have felt disrespected the way Arnold entered the show, treated fellow competitors and didn't listen to the judges while posing .
I still think Arnold was the best on stage though
but , can you name a MrOlympia winner that regrets winning a particular sandow ?
In his Netflix Bio series , Arnold did not mention the 1980 Olympia , So basically mainstream audiences think he was done with bodybuilding after winning O 1975 in Africa , that tells you right there something is off. like he wants to erase that chapter of his life, At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Arnold believes he didn't compete in Australia 1980.lol
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHH Oct.4th 1980
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I just think there wasn't enough time, that documentary only scratched the surface if his life. The mainstream audience would have no clue about the 1980 controversy, it'd make no difference to include it.
I have no doubt it was originally mentioned but they took just 3 hours out of 40 hours of footage and interviews filmed. Much like the what is it, 100 hours of pumping iron footage that's sat on the shelf.
Great editing job, who did this ? a Mentzer/Getbigger ?
Just in this thread alone you can find interviews/audio of Padilla saying Arnold won despite not being 100 %
Tinerino had a great point of why this is the most controversial Olympia
Never mind Arnolds shape; Any pro bodybuilder would have felt disrespected the way Arnold entered the show, treated fellow competitors and didn't listen to the judges while posing .
I still think Arnold was the best on stage though
but , can you name a MrOlympia winner that regrets winning a particular sandow ?
In his Netflix Bio series , Arnold did not mention the 1980 Olympia , So basically mainstream audiences think he was done with bodybuilding after winning O 1975 in Africa , that tells you right there something is off. like he wants to erase that chapter of his life, At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Arnold believes he didn't compete in Australia 1980.lol
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHH Oct.4th 1980
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I just think there wasn't enough time, that documentary only scratched the surface if his life. The mainstream audience would have no clue about the 1980 controversy, it'd make no difference to include it.
I have no doubt it was originally mentioned but they took just 3 hours out of 40 hours of footage and interviews filmed. Much like the what is it, 100 hours of pumping iron footage that's sat on the shelf.
Given that 1980 MrO has been the greatest comeback in bodybuilding history, and there was an entire episode dedicated to Arnold as a bodybuilder in the Netflix documentary, I couldn’t help thinking it was strange that Arnold totally ignored it. Specially with the rumors of him destroying/hiding footage and pictures of that contest only growing stronger.
I wouldn’t go as far as saying It makes no difference to include it on the documentary , bodybuilding is boring as it is , Arnold should own that shit. And say : “I did in 6 months what the rest of bodybuilders do in a full year came back and won it “ and live it at that.
Was he friends with the judges? YES! Did the Weiders blocked Mentzer ? YES ! Was Arnold booed in Sydney? YES ! Did 13 competitors feel robbed ? YES did he almost get his ass handed ? YES !
Arnold is keeping that can of warms closed. … that’s for sure.
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Given that 1980 MrO has been the greatest comeback in bodybuilding history, and there was an entire episode dedicated to Arnold as a bodybuilder in the Netflix documentary, I couldn’t help thinking it was strange that Arnold totally ignored it. Specially with the rumors of him destroying/hiding footage and pictures of that contest only growing stronger.
I wouldn’t go as far as saying It makes no difference to include it on the documentary , bodybuilding is boring as it is , Arnold should own that shit. And say : “I did in 6 months what the rest of bodybuilders do in a full year came back and won it “ and live it at that.
Was he friends with the judges? YES! Did the Weiders blocked Mentzer ? YES ! Was Arnold booed in Sydney? YES ! Did 13 competitors feel robbed ? YES did he almost get his ass handed ? YES !
Arnold is keeping that can of warms closed. … that’s for sure.
Did Arnold place 1st YES
Did Mike place 5th YES
Did 13 not like it YES
Do some folk still cry about it YES
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HTH
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I dunno, like i said 40 hours was whittled down to 3! How do we know he didn't talk in detail about it? Look at how little was actually said about any of his movies. The director/editors seem to have just made a story, the familiar one we all know. I mean i learnt nothing new from that documentary but people i know who've watched it who don't follow him said it was really good and insigjtful.
Given that 1980 MrO has been the greatest comeback in bodybuilding history, and there was an entire episode dedicated to Arnold as a bodybuilder in the Netflix documentary, I couldn’t help thinking it was strange that Arnold totally ignored it. Specially with the rumors of him destroying/hiding footage and pictures of that contest only growing stronger.
I wouldn’t go as far as saying It makes no difference to include it on the documentary , bodybuilding is boring as it is , Arnold should own that shit. And say : “I did in 6 months what the rest of bodybuilders do in a full year came back and won it “ and live it at that.
Was he friends with the judges? YES! Did the Weiders blocked Mentzer ? YES ! Was Arnold booed in Sydney? YES ! Did 13 competitors feel robbed ? YES did he almost get his ass handed ? YES !
Arnold is keeping that can of warms closed. … that’s for sure.
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WHO SHOULD HAVE WON THE 1980 MR OLYMPIA CONTEST?
That's it. Mentzer won. See that caption they all looking at the man like "f*ck that guy really has it we're f*cked"
Fairly without bias, a judging panel would have choosen Mike Mentzer 100%
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I dunno, like i said 40 hours was whittled down to 3! How do we know he didn't talk in detail about it? Look at how little was actually said about any of his movies. The director/editors seem to have just made a story, the familiar one we all know. I mean i learnt nothing new from that documentary but people i know who've watched it who don't follow him said it was really good and insigjtful.
Good point , however I've been doing a deep/ research on this 1980 controversy ....
For instance: The book Total Recall: My Unbelievably True Life out of 656 pages ! in just one page he mentions briefly 1980 Mr.O with a lame picture hugging Joe Gold at the gym and another walking down the streets of Santa Monica with GF Maria and BFF Franco lol . in reality he treated everyone like shit in Sydney .
He has mentioned in his so called Arnold seminars that he was 4th at pre judging and he started posing until he got rid of the extra water and won .
There's also a video on Youtube where he tells kai Green that after 1980 pre judging Bill pearl told him he was third ! behind Dickerson and Boyer .... so he started posing non stop prior the evening show and ended up winning the whole thing lol .
I don't know, like someone said, as he got older he rather chooses to be open about his Olympias victories beating Zane and Oliva specially when he pushes his image to mainstream audiences .
WoooSHHHH the lean champ
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Arnold honestly looks like the man to beat in this shot .
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Oct.4th
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THE WIZARD OF OZ
Arnold Schwarzenegger’s win at the 1980 Mr. Olympia staged in the glamorous environs of the Sydney Opera House in Australia raised a storm of controversy that still reverberates today. Here’s an in depth look at the event.
By Peter McGough
THE FIGHT
It was mid-afternoon on Friday October 3, 1980 and Arnold Schwarzenegger, ensconced in his suite at the Sydney Hilton Hotel, was transfixed by the drama being played out on the TV screen in front of him. The live images were those of Larry Holmes pummeling an over-the-hill and spent Muhammad Ali in their world title fight in Las Vegas. (In Vegas it was 9.00pm Thursday October 2, which meant that given the separation of 18 time zones it was 3.00pm Friday October 3 in Sydney.)
Ali – bereft of his long-gone float like a butterfly skills – took a terrible shellacking before his trainer Angelo Dundee called the fight off at the end of the 11th round. It was a pitiful sight for all observers (even Holmes seemed reluctant to hit Ali as the fight approached its end), as it was clear a great champion had gone to the well once too many times. Ali’s demise in the desert heat must have rung symbolic warning bells for Schwarzenegger. After all wasn’t he known as the Muhammad Ali of bodybuilding, wasn’t he like the Louisville native, his sport’s most charismatic and famous champion? And now hadn’t he seen Ali’s legend along with his body take an awful beating? Hadn’t he seen an icon humiliated and rendered mortal to an adoring public?
The next day Schwarzenegger, at age 33, was due to compete for the Mr. Olympia title five years after taking his sixth victory at the sport’s most prestigious contest. He was set to make a sensational comeback but 24 hours prior to the event, very few people knew of his plan. Mindful of the carnage he had seen beamed from Vegas, he still had time to pull out; still had time to avert an Ali like collapse of a golden career. But with the self-belief that had dictated his career the future Governor of California decided that the show must go on and in many ways what was to happen over the next 36 hours was indeed a show: Perhaps the greatest ever rendition of The Arnold Schwarzenegger Show.
ARNOLD, FRANK & SYDNEY
Eight weeks prior to the 1980 Mr. Olympia contest, after three years of typical Hollywood “tell your peeps to call my peeps” negotiations, production for the movie Conan The Barbarian, with Arnold in the lead role, had been given the green light. Shooting would begin in late October of that year and the muscular demands of the role compelled Arnold to launch into an intensive workout blitz at World’s Gym, Venice with the aim of returning his then streamlined dimensions toward a semblance of his previous Olympia winning physique.
With muscle memory kicking in, allied with Arnold’s ferocious commitment to grow, word soon spread around the village that is bodybuilding that Arnold’s sudden gym activity meant he was Olympia bound. When asked, he scoffed at such suggestions, affirming that each rep was in pursuit of a Conan type physique while at the same time stating he would be at the Olympia, but only in the role of doing color commentary for CBS who had covered the event in recent years.
It was early August 1980 when Frank Zane having just finished a workout thought to himself, “Oh shit! Another eight weeks of this.” The then 38 year old had won the previous three Mr. Olympias and in doing so launched the Zane Era in which he symbolized a classical look that attracted praise from the mainstream and bodybuilding’s core audience alike. Even today Zane’s physique is Exhibit A for lobbyists calling for a return to aesthetic and healthy bodybuilding.
That fateful August afternoon he went to the pool at his Palm Springs home for his daily tan. He recalls what happened next: “I sat in this lightweight chair by the pool and as I did it slid on the wet Astroturf by the side and I fell onto the lip of the pool which hit me right between the legs and smashed my bulbous urethra. Blood was gushing from my penis. I was rushed to hospital and was in for four days with a catheter attachment … it was horrible.” It was also, for a short time, a life-threatening situation.
A few days after leaving hospital the bleeding started again and more treatment was required. By the time his condition stabilized two weeks had passed and Zane had lost 15 pounds of muscle. The scuttlebutt around Venice was, forget a fourth title, the odds are he wouldn’t even be able to compete in Sydney. Contemplating what to do Zane did what most of the top guys of that period did – he consulted with Arnold.
He explains why: “Since his competitive retirement Arnold was the go-to guy before contests. Everyone went to him for advice. They’d do their posing routine and he’d point out every little thing that was wrong. I called him and he said, ‘Yeah, the word is out at Gold’s that you took so many steroids your dick started to bleed.’ I asked him what he thought I should do. He told me, ‘You should go to Australia and defend your title.’”
Arnold’s “advices” sort of confirmed what the triple Mr. O had been thinking: He had the tickets, he had six weeks left to whip myself in shape, why not?
In that same conversation Zane asked Arnold if he was entering the Mr. Olympia. Back came Arnold’s standard Getting in shape for Conan/CBS commentary answer. At the time the questioner had no reason to doubt what the man he considered a friend told him.
Whatever Arnold’s thought process was at the time, one can speculate that it may have crossed his mind that a sub par Frank Zane showing up in Sydney would be to the advantage of the comeback aspirant. He may have mused that once he (Arnold) stepped onstage he would be the focus of attention, but that would be followed closely by how he compared to the defending champ Zane; who had defined the post-Schwarzenegger era. That’s the way it works: the man who wears the crown is the target. That’s who the judges compare everyone else to. Those who had seen Zane at six weeks out were amazed at the shape he valiantly attained by contest time. But at 180 or so pounds, ten pounds lighter than his 1979 form, he was not the force he would have been at his best. Zane’s accident was really strike one for Arnold.
SECONDS OUT: DING! DING!
The fifteen official entrants scheduled to contest the 1980 Mr. Olympia showdown duly arrived in Sydney a few days before October 4. They were still unaware that there would be a 16th contender entering at the 11th hour.
Boyer Coe, who was destined for fourth place, first heard about Arnold’s participation on the morning of the contest. Bill Pearl (who withdrew from being head judge) called him in his hotel room and said, “I just want to let you know that Arnold is gonna enter the contest.” Pearl also added that Arnold wanted the competition to be run under the format of two classes: under 200 pounds and over 200 pounds, with the two class winners posing off for the title. The contest had been conducted along those lines from 1974 through 1979. But after the ’79 Olympia it was decided to go back to the open class as the situation could occur where the second placed guy in the lighter class may be better than the winner of the heavy class and/or vice-versa.
Only when Arnold – complete with gym bag -- showed up at the competitors meeting shortly before Saturday afternoon’s prejudging did the rest of the field know he was in.
Arnold’s immediately called for a return to having two classes in the contest. It transpired that Arnold was the only one in favor of maintaining the two-class system. To cut to the chase Coe addressed the meeting as follows: “Fifteen of us want it one way, Arnold’s the only guy wants it another way. Why not let Arnold explain his reasoning.”
Arnold snapped back, “Boyer why don’t you act like a man.”
Before Coe could respond Mike Mentzer jumped into the fray. This is how Mentzer recalled what happened next. “I interjected and asked Arnold why he was so reluctant to see the open class introduced. For some reason, that question pissed him off and he barked at me, ‘Mike Mentzer, we all know Zane beat you last year because you have a big stomach!’
"I was seated 20 feet away from Arnold, who was standing holding court, and I perhaps allowed that comment to irritate me too much, as on impulse, I bolted toward him. As I approached him, I decided I wouldn't hit him.” At that flashpoint moment someone stepped in between the two and defused the issue. Coe recalls that the peacemaker was Bill Pearl; others cite Joe or Ben Weider. Whatever, at that juncture Arnold withdrew his plea for two weight classes and some sort of peace was restored.
So why was Arnold so strongly opposed to an open class? Some say he saw the greater threats to him coming from under 200 pounders like Dickerson and Zane and felt he would have a better chance standing against only one of them at the end when his size and height would be thrown more advantageously into sharp relief. That may be the case but what can’t escape scrutiny is the theory that he just wanted to show up at the meeting and press more buttons than an overworked elevator operator and if the other guys had been in favor of two classes then maybe he would have argued for one class. Perhaps the whole point of creating the altercation was to deflect his rivals from the intense inner mental concentration that is de rigueur for bodybuilders in the hours before competition. As it was his rivals perhaps left the meeting with dark thoughts of Arnold, and not fully focused on their own preparations. Mission accomplished?
ZERO HOUR
As the competitors changed backstage Boer Coe remembers his first sight of the 1980 model of Schwarzenegger. “He looked very light, particularly in the legs and was lacking the thickness we’d come to expect.” As for Coe himself, the then 34 year old was, at 208 pounds, to many observers in the shape of his life.
When Zane eventually saw a betrunked Schwarzenegger he thought the former champ would be, “Sixth. He looked puffy early on, like he was holding water. Then he sweat so much during the prejudging that he did look better by the night show. But he still wasn’t Arnold. It’s like you’re out of it for five years and you train eight weeks …. C’mon?”
Estimates of what the late entrant weighed varied between 217 and 225 pounds. In winning the 1975 Olympia Arnold had been around 230 pounds. In 1974, which many cite as Arnold’s best year, he was 240 pounds. His bodyweight in 1975 was light for him as earlier in the year he had to reduce his physique to appear in the movie Stay Hungry, and then in three months put size back on to compete at that year’s Olympia in South Africa. In fact the only reason he did compete in ’75 was because producer George Butler made the contest the backdrop for Pumping Iron.
Arnold’s performance during the contest was unorthodox to say the least. Call it arrogance, call it unsporting, but maybe finally call it generalship. When asked to hit certain compulsories – side triceps for instance – he would instead do one of his trademark poses: like front double biceps, side chest, single arm biceps, and three-quarter back shots. Despite the streamlining elsewhere he was still impressive in those shots and, true to the template of his life, played to his strengths and ignored his weaknesses.
Bodybuilding's showcase muscles are the biceps and chest. Arnold had arguably the best biceps and chest the sport has seen, even to this day. Coincidence? Gimme a break! Arnold has street and gym smarts. His bodybuilding master plan was uncomplicated. Go for the jugular with the best showcase muscles around; exploit your strengths, ignore weaknesses, let the charisma ooze out. Never change a winning formula; modify, improve, but don't abandon. Never, ever, give any indication other than that the rest of the guys are only there for second place. Inspired by the opulent surroundings of the Sydney Opera House he executed his lifelong strategy and parlayed those show-stopping biceps and pecs into a winning position. How else to explain how a less than stellar Arnold returned to the Olympia in 1980 to take the most controversial win in the contest's history? What critics discount is the all-enveloping Arnold "I'm first, who cares who's second?" aura that just becomes irresistible.
As George Butler aptly phrased it: “If you want to beat Muhammad Ali on points, you’ve got to beat him by ten points. Likewise if you want to beat Arnold Schwarzenegger in the grandeur of the Sydney Opera House, you have got to beat him by a distance. You can't just be a little better.”
History records that Arnold Schwarzenegger won his seventh Mr. Olympia title on October 4, 1980 and also that for just about the first time in his career he was booed. Didn’t matter to Arnold, all that mattered was that he won. End of story. Bodybuilding contests, box-office returns, elections for state Governor – all that history remembers is the winner. Arnold didn’t really fixate on who was best, what was of paramount importance to him was who was “Number One” or as his iconic t-shirt shrieked “Numero Uno.”
In being called third, Zane was, “Really depressed. There’s a story that I left the stage and smashed my trophy. But what really happened is that I set the trophy down backstage – I really didn’t want it – and it sort of just fell over and the top came off. I left the hall went back to the hotel, drank a bottle of wine and fell asleep.”
In assessing his 1980 physique Zane says, “The main thing is, I think I got compared to the way I looked the year before. In Sydney I was ripped: Showing maybe even more muscle but I was smaller than ‘ 79. I felt that in 1980 I was still in really good shape, but not as good as ’79 when I was outstanding. And everyone knew what I had been through and my face, which was like a death mask, showed it. All that stress … my God, I almost died and then eight weeks later I was competing. Who would do that except a fool? In retrospect the best thing I could have done was not compete in 1980 and then come back in 1981.”
WHY DID HE DO IT?
In reflecting on the 1980 Olympia one has to ask, why did Arnold enter? He knew he couldn’t be at his all-time peak, and was risking defeat and a denting of his reputation. Zane feels he has at least part of the answer: “I think one of the reasons is he wanted to get even with me for something I said at the previous year’s Olympia. Now, let me tell you, Arnold has helped me a lot, both before 1980 and since. In 1979 he was really helpful to me. He was doing CBS commentary for the ’79 Olympia and he really built me up with his on-air comments. As I came offstage with my third Sandow I was feeling really good and maybe a little cocky. As Arnold came forward to interview me, He asked, ‘Frank, how does it feel to win Mr. Olympia for the third time?’ And, I answered, ‘Arnold it feels even better than when I beat you for [the 1968] Mr. Universe.’ I know he hated me saying that. It really bugged him and I think to get back at me for that remark was part of his motivation to enter the 1980 Mr. Olympia.”
Zane may not be far off the mark. In a February 2006 interview the Governor said the following: “Why did I do the comeback? It was a combination of things. The first and most important thing is that I was training for the Conan movie. At the same time I thought it was a good idea to compete because these guys had been saying in interviews that today’s bodybuilders are much better than when Schwarzenegger was around and I think we could all beat him now. That motivated me to jump in. [Ed’s note: Zane’s previously quoted comment and Mike Mentzer’s criticizing Arnold’s volume approach to training seemed to be the main targets for what the Governor said.]
In the same interview he went on to say, “Was it the right decision? I couldn’t tell you that today. It might have been the wrong motivation. The fact of the matter was I was an established bodybuilding champion who had crossed over into the entertainment field. And now I’ve been making money from movies so [others thought] why would I take the title away from the guys?
“I always had a big ego and that also came into play. So I competed, and I barely won -- I barely won. It was a hair-raising experience. I remember Bill Pearl came to me [after the prejudging] and said I was in third. I said to myself there is a chance to make up the deficit in the evening pose-off. I remember I did everything I could, no matter what it took to pose and pose and pose and to look as comfortable as possible and to be as good as possible in the evening to make up those two points and actually win.”
Responding to Pearl’s summation Arnold berated himself: “I immediately accused myself of being a major idiot. ‘Loser Arnold. You idiot: You ‘re going to lose this. Didn’t get your act together.’ [It was] self-punishment right away. Which I’m always very good in doing – beating up on myself. Then I immediately snapped into gear and said, ‘Now I have just to do everything I can do to pull this off – I have one more chance in the evening show.’ And I was very fortunate that I pulled it off and that I lost enough fluid. In the afternoon I had so much fluid and then with all this posing [I lost the fluid] I got really ripped. So by the time the evening came around I was in better shape than the afternoon and won.”
THE BOTTOM LINE
Leaving Sydney Zane was still a little perplexed as to why Arnold – whom he considered a friend – hadn’t told him he was making a comeback when he (Zane) had asked him point-blank eight weeks before the contest. He got his answer two months after the event when he and Arnold had breakfast at The Rose Café in Venice.
Zane recalls that meeting. “We got around to talking about why he didn’t tell me he was competing. The Carter vs. Reagan election had just taken place and Arnold said, “If prior to the election Carter had gone to Reagan and told him exactly how he planned to win the election, Reagan would have been a fool not to take advantage of that knowledge and use it for his benefit.’” Zane pauses before continuing, “Arnold then came up with a classic line as he said, ‘Frank, competition is about strategy; it’s not about friendship.’ That nailed it. And I got it. He was right – you can’t confuse the two.”
Decades removed from events how does Hall-of-Famer Frank Zane look back now at what transpired at the 1980 Mr. Olympia contest. “First of all I would like everyone to know that Arnold has helped me a lot. He is a friend in my book so it all balances out. Basically the lesson learned is, if you are smart, never compete against Arnold, because you won’t win – you just won’t win.”
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Great editing job, who did this ? a Mentzer/Getbigger ?
Just in this thread alone you can find interviews/audio of Padilla saying Arnold won despite not being 100 %
Tinerino had a great point of why this is the most controversial Olympia
Never mind Arnolds shape; Any pro bodybuilder would have felt disrespected the way Arnold entered the show, treated fellow competitors and didn't listen to the judges while posing .
I still think Arnold was the best on stage though
but , can you name a MrOlympia winner that regrets winning a particular sandow ?
In his Netflix Bio series , Arnold did not mention the 1980 Olympia , So basically mainstream audiences think he was done with bodybuilding after winning O 1975 in Africa , that tells you right there something is off. like he wants to erase that chapter of his life, At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Arnold believes he didn't compete in Australia 1980.lol
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHH Oct.4th 1980
Mainstream audiences don't even know the Olympia exists.
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THE WIZARD OF OZ
Arnold Schwarzenegger’s win at the 1980 Mr. Olympia staged in the glamorous environs of the Sydney Opera House in Australia raised a storm of controversy that still reverberates today. Here’s an in depth look at the event.
By Peter McGough
THE FIGHT
It was mid-afternoon on Friday October 3, 1980 and Arnold Schwarzenegger, ensconced in his suite at the Sydney Hilton Hotel, was transfixed by the drama being played out on the TV screen in front of him. The live images were those of Larry Holmes pummeling an over-the-hill and spent Muhammad Ali in their world title fight in Las Vegas. (In Vegas it was 9.00pm Thursday October 2, which meant that given the separation of 18 time zones it was 3.00pm Friday October 3 in Sydney.)
Ali – bereft of his long-gone float like a butterfly skills – took a terrible shellacking before his trainer Angelo Dundee called the fight off at the end of the 11th round. It was a pitiful sight for all observers (even Holmes seemed reluctant to hit Ali as the fight approached its end), as it was clear a great champion had gone to the well once too many times. Ali’s demise in the desert heat must have rung symbolic warning bells for Schwarzenegger. After all wasn’t he known as the Muhammad Ali of bodybuilding, wasn’t he like the Louisville native, his sport’s most charismatic and famous champion? And now hadn’t he seen Ali’s legend along with his body take an awful beating? Hadn’t he seen an icon humiliated and rendered mortal to an adoring public?
The next day Schwarzenegger, at age 33, was due to compete for the Mr. Olympia title five years after taking his sixth victory at the sport’s most prestigious contest. He was set to make a sensational comeback but 24 hours prior to the event, very few people knew of his plan. Mindful of the carnage he had seen beamed from Vegas, he still had time to pull out; still had time to avert an Ali like collapse of a golden career. But with the self-belief that had dictated his career the future Governor of California decided that the show must go on and in many ways what was to happen over the next 36 hours was indeed a show: Perhaps the greatest ever rendition of The Arnold Schwarzenegger Show.
ARNOLD, FRANK & SYDNEY
Eight weeks prior to the 1980 Mr. Olympia contest, after three years of typical Hollywood “tell your peeps to call my peeps” negotiations, production for the movie Conan The Barbarian, with Arnold in the lead role, had been given the green light. Shooting would begin in late October of that year and the muscular demands of the role compelled Arnold to launch into an intensive workout blitz at World’s Gym, Venice with the aim of returning his then streamlined dimensions toward a semblance of his previous Olympia winning physique.
With muscle memory kicking in, allied with Arnold’s ferocious commitment to grow, word soon spread around the village that is bodybuilding that Arnold’s sudden gym activity meant he was Olympia bound. When asked, he scoffed at such suggestions, affirming that each rep was in pursuit of a Conan type physique while at the same time stating he would be at the Olympia, but only in the role of doing color commentary for CBS who had covered the event in recent years.
It was early August 1980 when Frank Zane having just finished a workout thought to himself, “Oh shit! Another eight weeks of this.” The then 38 year old had won the previous three Mr. Olympias and in doing so launched the Zane Era in which he symbolized a classical look that attracted praise from the mainstream and bodybuilding’s core audience alike. Even today Zane’s physique is Exhibit A for lobbyists calling for a return to aesthetic and healthy bodybuilding.
That fateful August afternoon he went to the pool at his Palm Springs home for his daily tan. He recalls what happened next: “I sat in this lightweight chair by the pool and as I did it slid on the wet Astroturf by the side and I fell onto the lip of the pool which hit me right between the legs and smashed my bulbous urethra. Blood was gushing from my penis. I was rushed to hospital and was in for four days with a catheter attachment … it was horrible.” It was also, for a short time, a life-threatening situation.
A few days after leaving hospital the bleeding started again and more treatment was required. By the time his condition stabilized two weeks had passed and Zane had lost 15 pounds of muscle. The scuttlebutt around Venice was, forget a fourth title, the odds are he wouldn’t even be able to compete in Sydney. Contemplating what to do Zane did what most of the top guys of that period did – he consulted with Arnold.
He explains why: “Since his competitive retirement Arnold was the go-to guy before contests. Everyone went to him for advice. They’d do their posing routine and he’d point out every little thing that was wrong. I called him and he said, ‘Yeah, the word is out at Gold’s that you took so many steroids your dick started to bleed.’ I asked him what he thought I should do. He told me, ‘You should go to Australia and defend your title.’”
Arnold’s “advices” sort of confirmed what the triple Mr. O had been thinking: He had the tickets, he had six weeks left to whip myself in shape, why not?
In that same conversation Zane asked Arnold if he was entering the Mr. Olympia. Back came Arnold’s standard Getting in shape for Conan/CBS commentary answer. At the time the questioner had no reason to doubt what the man he considered a friend told him.
Whatever Arnold’s thought process was at the time, one can speculate that it may have crossed his mind that a sub par Frank Zane showing up in Sydney would be to the advantage of the comeback aspirant. He may have mused that once he (Arnold) stepped onstage he would be the focus of attention, but that would be followed closely by how he compared to the defending champ Zane; who had defined the post-Schwarzenegger era. That’s the way it works: the man who wears the crown is the target. That’s who the judges compare everyone else to. Those who had seen Zane at six weeks out were amazed at the shape he valiantly attained by contest time. But at 180 or so pounds, ten pounds lighter than his 1979 form, he was not the force he would have been at his best. Zane’s accident was really strike one for Arnold.
SECONDS OUT: DING! DING!
The fifteen official entrants scheduled to contest the 1980 Mr. Olympia showdown duly arrived in Sydney a few days before October 4. They were still unaware that there would be a 16th contender entering at the 11th hour.
Boyer Coe, who was destined for fourth place, first heard about Arnold’s participation on the morning of the contest. Bill Pearl (who withdrew from being head judge) called him in his hotel room and said, “I just want to let you know that Arnold is gonna enter the contest.” Pearl also added that Arnold wanted the competition to be run under the format of two classes: under 200 pounds and over 200 pounds, with the two class winners posing off for the title. The contest had been conducted along those lines from 1974 through 1979. But after the ’79 Olympia it was decided to go back to the open class as the situation could occur where the second placed guy in the lighter class may be better than the winner of the heavy class and/or vice-versa.
Only when Arnold – complete with gym bag -- showed up at the competitors meeting shortly before Saturday afternoon’s prejudging did the rest of the field know he was in.
Arnold’s immediately called for a return to having two classes in the contest. It transpired that Arnold was the only one in favor of maintaining the two-class system. To cut to the chase Coe addressed the meeting as follows: “Fifteen of us want it one way, Arnold’s the only guy wants it another way. Why not let Arnold explain his reasoning.”
Arnold snapped back, “Boyer why don’t you act like a man.”
Before Coe could respond Mike Mentzer jumped into the fray. This is how Mentzer recalled what happened next. “I interjected and asked Arnold why he was so reluctant to see the open class introduced. For some reason, that question pissed him off and he barked at me, ‘Mike Mentzer, we all know Zane beat you last year because you have a big stomach!’
"I was seated 20 feet away from Arnold, who was standing holding court, and I perhaps allowed that comment to irritate me too much, as on impulse, I bolted toward him. As I approached him, I decided I wouldn't hit him.” At that flashpoint moment someone stepped in between the two and defused the issue. Coe recalls that the peacemaker was Bill Pearl; others cite Joe or Ben Weider. Whatever, at that juncture Arnold withdrew his plea for two weight classes and some sort of peace was restored.
So why was Arnold so strongly opposed to an open class? Some say he saw the greater threats to him coming from under 200 pounders like Dickerson and Zane and felt he would have a better chance standing against only one of them at the end when his size and height would be thrown more advantageously into sharp relief. That may be the case but what can’t escape scrutiny is the theory that he just wanted to show up at the meeting and press more buttons than an overworked elevator operator and if the other guys had been in favor of two classes then maybe he would have argued for one class. Perhaps the whole point of creating the altercation was to deflect his rivals from the intense inner mental concentration that is de rigueur for bodybuilders in the hours before competition. As it was his rivals perhaps left the meeting with dark thoughts of Arnold, and not fully focused on their own preparations. Mission accomplished?
ZERO HOUR
As the competitors changed backstage Boer Coe remembers his first sight of the 1980 model of Schwarzenegger. “He looked very light, particularly in the legs and was lacking the thickness we’d come to expect.” As for Coe himself, the then 34 year old was, at 208 pounds, to many observers in the shape of his life.
When Zane eventually saw a betrunked Schwarzenegger he thought the former champ would be, “Sixth. He looked puffy early on, like he was holding water. Then he sweat so much during the prejudging that he did look better by the night show. But he still wasn’t Arnold. It’s like you’re out of it for five years and you train eight weeks …. C’mon?”
Estimates of what the late entrant weighed varied between 217 and 225 pounds. In winning the 1975 Olympia Arnold had been around 230 pounds. In 1974, which many cite as Arnold’s best year, he was 240 pounds. His bodyweight in 1975 was light for him as earlier in the year he had to reduce his physique to appear in the movie Stay Hungry, and then in three months put size back on to compete at that year’s Olympia in South Africa. In fact the only reason he did compete in ’75 was because producer George Butler made the contest the backdrop for Pumping Iron.
Arnold’s performance during the contest was unorthodox to say the least. Call it arrogance, call it unsporting, but maybe finally call it generalship. When asked to hit certain compulsories – side triceps for instance – he would instead do one of his trademark poses: like front double biceps, side chest, single arm biceps, and three-quarter back shots. Despite the streamlining elsewhere he was still impressive in those shots and, true to the template of his life, played to his strengths and ignored his weaknesses.
Bodybuilding's showcase muscles are the biceps and chest. Arnold had arguably the best biceps and chest the sport has seen, even to this day. Coincidence? Gimme a break! Arnold has street and gym smarts. His bodybuilding master plan was uncomplicated. Go for the jugular with the best showcase muscles around; exploit your strengths, ignore weaknesses, let the charisma ooze out. Never change a winning formula; modify, improve, but don't abandon. Never, ever, give any indication other than that the rest of the guys are only there for second place. Inspired by the opulent surroundings of the Sydney Opera House he executed his lifelong strategy and parlayed those show-stopping biceps and pecs into a winning position. How else to explain how a less than stellar Arnold returned to the Olympia in 1980 to take the most controversial win in the contest's history? What critics discount is the all-enveloping Arnold "I'm first, who cares who's second?" aura that just becomes irresistible.
As George Butler aptly phrased it: “If you want to beat Muhammad Ali on points, you’ve got to beat him by ten points. Likewise if you want to beat Arnold Schwarzenegger in the grandeur of the Sydney Opera House, you have got to beat him by a distance. You can't just be a little better.”
History records that Arnold Schwarzenegger won his seventh Mr. Olympia title on October 4, 1980 and also that for just about the first time in his career he was booed. Didn’t matter to Arnold, all that mattered was that he won. End of story. Bodybuilding contests, box-office returns, elections for state Governor – all that history remembers is the winner. Arnold didn’t really fixate on who was best, what was of paramount importance to him was who was “Number One” or as his iconic t-shirt shrieked “Numero Uno.”
In being called third, Zane was, “Really depressed. There’s a story that I left the stage and smashed my trophy. But what really happened is that I set the trophy down backstage – I really didn’t want it – and it sort of just fell over and the top came off. I left the hall went back to the hotel, drank a bottle of wine and fell asleep.”
In assessing his 1980 physique Zane says, “The main thing is, I think I got compared to the way I looked the year before. In Sydney I was ripped: Showing maybe even more muscle but I was smaller than ‘ 79. I felt that in 1980 I was still in really good shape, but not as good as ’79 when I was outstanding. And everyone knew what I had been through and my face, which was like a death mask, showed it. All that stress … my God, I almost died and then eight weeks later I was competing. Who would do that except a fool? In retrospect the best thing I could have done was not compete in 1980 and then come back in 1981.”
WHY DID HE DO IT?
In reflecting on the 1980 Olympia one has to ask, why did Arnold enter? He knew he couldn’t be at his all-time peak, and was risking defeat and a denting of his reputation. Zane feels he has at least part of the answer: “I think one of the reasons is he wanted to get even with me for something I said at the previous year’s Olympia. Now, let me tell you, Arnold has helped me a lot, both before 1980 and since. In 1979 he was really helpful to me. He was doing CBS commentary for the ’79 Olympia and he really built me up with his on-air comments. As I came offstage with my third Sandow I was feeling really good and maybe a little cocky. As Arnold came forward to interview me, He asked, ‘Frank, how does it feel to win Mr. Olympia for the third time?’ And, I answered, ‘Arnold it feels even better than when I beat you for [the 1968] Mr. Universe.’ I know he hated me saying that. It really bugged him and I think to get back at me for that remark was part of his motivation to enter the 1980 Mr. Olympia.”
Zane may not be far off the mark. In a February 2006 interview the Governor said the following: “Why did I do the comeback? It was a combination of things. The first and most important thing is that I was training for the Conan movie. At the same time I thought it was a good idea to compete because these guys had been saying in interviews that today’s bodybuilders are much better than when Schwarzenegger was around and I think we could all beat him now. That motivated me to jump in. [Ed’s note: Zane’s previously quoted comment and Mike Mentzer’s criticizing Arnold’s volume approach to training seemed to be the main targets for what the Governor said.]
In the same interview he went on to say, “Was it the right decision? I couldn’t tell you that today. It might have been the wrong motivation. The fact of the matter was I was an established bodybuilding champion who had crossed over into the entertainment field. And now I’ve been making money from movies so [others thought] why would I take the title away from the guys?
“I always had a big ego and that also came into play. So I competed, and I barely won -- I barely won. It was a hair-raising experience. I remember Bill Pearl came to me [after the prejudging] and said I was in third. I said to myself there is a chance to make up the deficit in the evening pose-off. I remember I did everything I could, no matter what it took to pose and pose and pose and to look as comfortable as possible and to be as good as possible in the evening to make up those two points and actually win.”
Responding to Pearl’s summation Arnold berated himself: “I immediately accused myself of being a major idiot. ‘Loser Arnold. You idiot: You ‘re going to lose this. Didn’t get your act together.’ [It was] self-punishment right away. Which I’m always very good in doing – beating up on myself. Then I immediately snapped into gear and said, ‘Now I have just to do everything I can do to pull this off – I have one more chance in the evening show.’ And I was very fortunate that I pulled it off and that I lost enough fluid. In the afternoon I had so much fluid and then with all this posing [I lost the fluid] I got really ripped. So by the time the evening came around I was in better shape than the afternoon and won.”
THE BOTTOM LINE
Leaving Sydney Zane was still a little perplexed as to why Arnold – whom he considered a friend – hadn’t told him he was making a comeback when he (Zane) had asked him point-blank eight weeks before the contest. He got his answer two months after the event when he and Arnold had breakfast at The Rose Café in Venice.
Zane recalls that meeting. “We got around to talking about why he didn’t tell me he was competing. The Carter vs. Reagan election had just taken place and Arnold said, “If prior to the election Carter had gone to Reagan and told him exactly how he planned to win the election, Reagan would have been a fool not to take advantage of that knowledge and use it for his benefit.’” Zane pauses before continuing, “Arnold then came up with a classic line as he said, ‘Frank, competition is about strategy; it’s not about friendship.’ That nailed it. And I got it. He was right – you can’t confuse the two.”
Decades removed from events how does Hall-of-Famer Frank Zane look back now at what transpired at the 1980 Mr. Olympia contest. “First of all I would like everyone to know that Arnold has helped me a lot. He is a friend in my book so it all balances out. Basically the lesson learned is, if you are smart, never compete against Arnold, because you won’t win – you just won’t win.”
Funny how Zane and Coe were happy enough to take home their runner up checks. If they had any real integrity they would've gave back both their trophies and the money.
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Great editing job, who did this ? a Mentzer/Getbigger ?
Just in this thread alone you can find interviews/audio of Padilla saying Arnold won despite not being 100 %
Tinerino had a great point of why this is the most controversial Olympia
Never mind Arnolds shape; Any pro bodybuilder would have felt disrespected the way Arnold entered the show, treated fellow competitors and didn't listen to the judges while posing .
I still think Arnold was the best on stage though
but , can you name a MrOlympia winner that regrets winning a particular sandow ?
In his Netflix Bio series , Arnold did not mention the 1980 Olympia , So basically mainstream audiences think he was done with bodybuilding after winning O 1975 in Africa , that tells you right there something is off. like he wants to erase that chapter of his life, At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Arnold believes he didn't compete in Australia 1980.lol
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John Little did the video so I wouldn't trust anything that comes out of that penicil neck's mouth. He's so biased towards methzer it's like they were once lovers.
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Mainstream audiences don't even know the Olympia exists.
The Documentary made it clear that the Olympia is the most important tittle in Bodybuilding right from the first episode.
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The Documentary made it clear that the Olympia is the most important tittle in Bodybuilding right from the first episode.
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So?
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The Documentary made it clear that the Olympia is the most important tittle in Bodybuilding right from the first episode.
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH OCt 4th 1980
Ask 100 people on the street what bodybuilding title Arnold is famous for and the #1 answer you will get is "no idea" and the #2 answer will be Mr. Universe.
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Ask 100 people on the street what bodybuilding title Arnold is famous for and the #1 answer you will get is "no idea" and the #2 answer will be Mr. Universe.
young dudes in the Gym don´t give a fuck about arnold.
Remember his early Mr O wins were against maybe 3 or 4 people..LOL & i think one Mr O no one else was there.
compared to say Haney,Dorian or Ronnie it´s a joke !
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I still see plenty of people wearing arnold tshirts in the gym and look at all the videos of him training at golds or even the latest prank he pulled, young people are still interested.
young dudes in the Gym don´t give a fuck about arnold.
Remember his early Mr O wins were against maybe 3 or 4 people..LOL & i think one Mr O no one else was there.
compared to say Haney,Dorian or Ronnie it´s a joke !
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So?
The first episode is mainly focused on Arnold Alois bodybuilding accomplishments, During that informative episode, our lean dry champ has no problem discussing his 70's Olympians wins.
WoooSHHHHHH Barracuda Mode
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Ask 100 people on the street what bodybuilding title Arnold is famous for and the #1 answer you will get is "no idea" and the #2 answer will be Mr. Universe.
you're missing the point, taking the conversation out of this thread makes absolutely no sense...
The average Joe or fitness influencer has no F clue what took place that dark Oct 4th 1980 in Sydney Australia
This is a Tread for elite exclusive old timers Getbiggers in the know .....
Just ask yourself , Why the controversy 43 damn years later?
Most witnesses /big names on the sport" feel they have more to lose saying publicly that the whole 1980 Olympia was a fraud ...... Since Arnold has been above the industry and is pretty much the face of BB, a little cult 'sport" where there's basically no money to make even with Arnold as a friend' ...... again I feel he was the deserving champ.
However, The obvious hermeticism that Arnold has on this subject only feeds on the rumors....
I just pray Generation iron doesn't end up making a garbage "movie:" about it and ruin the fucking investigation for all of us . lol
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Le vro neeeeee
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you're missing the point, taking the conversation out of this thread makes absolutely no sense...
The average Joe or fitness influencer has no F clue what took place that dark Oct 4th 1980 in Sydney Australia
This is a Tread for elite exclusive old timers Getbiggers in the know .....
Just ask yourself , Why the controversy 43 damn years later?
Most witnesses /big names on the sport" feel they have more to lose saying publicly that the whole 1980 Olympia was a fraud ...... Since Arnold has been above the industry and is pretty much the face of BB, a little cult 'sport" where there's basically no money to make even with Arnold as a friend' ...... again I feel he was the deserving champ.
However, The obvious hermeticism that Arnold has on this subject only feeds on the rumors....
I just pray Generation iron doesn't end up making a garbage "movie:" about it and ruin the fucking investigation for all of us . lol
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Le vro neeeeee
There is no controversy. It's pretty simple. Arnold may not have been the Arnold from the 70's but he didn't have to be. There was no Sergio. No Ferrigno. No Nubret. Arnold was up against some b-listers bodybuilders. He was better then everyone else that day. He didn't "destroy" them like usual but he did beat them and that's people's problem. They expected him to look like he used to. Others were good but still not good enough. You could even see it their eyes during the show. Look at the pics. They are looking at him like "heck he wins" they were admiring him. Plus it's not just about him winning it's the way the others reacted that kept the so called controversy going. Bunch of loser cry babies . methzer being the biggest of them all. He thought way too much of himself. He even said " bodybuilding just lost its best spokesman" (when he said he was done putting his body through this hell for a bad decision).
And here's the real problem with Arnold winning. He didn’t look like Arnold. Period. We expected him to come in looking like he always did but he didn't. He didn't have to though as he was still better than everyone else but he didn’t look like "Arnold". So some people say he shouldn't of won. People like Zane etc always look good standing by themselves but when compared to a real bodybuilder like Arnold they don't cut it. Now Arnold wasn't superior in every pose but he was in enough to win.
People liked methzer because they are lazy and thought his way of training would work for them (in reality he used volume just like everyone else) and Zane they liked because he had a very small build like a swimmer, easily attainable for almost anyone. By himself Zane did look good but next to Arnold? Forget about it. And Dickerson? He shouldn't of even been on stage. methzer went nuts after this his world crashed around him as the 1980 contest finished him off and deservedly so.
So yeah, Arnold won. There was no fix. Arnold was simply the best out of a bad line up.
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It's embarassing for them all that arnold took 8 weeks to not only be contest ready but still be the best.
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I don't understand the "controversy."
Dickerson had ugly, small biceps and a droopy chest. He looked good in the back double biceps and his legs were sliced; otherwise, I was amazed he made the top two.
Frank looked okay but was way down in size. Boyer's lack of ab separation and his weird aesthetics cost him.
Mike was ripped but flat. RMJ will attribute that to Mike's HIT training that he supposedly didn't follow :/ (I say forget about John Little's Mentzer worshipping and take it up with Larry Pollock. He's the guy who said Mike "flipped," right? So why believe him about one thing but not the other?)
Walker was huge but a bit smooth, complete with bitch tits.
Arnold was Arnold. Tall, huge showy body parts and he dried out as the show went on. The judges should have been less forgiving of his antics -- No, Arnold! We called for side triceps, NOT a mantis pose! Do it right! -- but he was still the best that day.
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I don't understand the "controversy."
Dickerson had ugly, small biceps and a droopy chest. He looked good in the back double biceps and his legs were sliced; otherwise, I was amazed he made the top two.
Frank looked okay but was way down in size. Boyer's lack of ab separation and his weird aesthetics cost him.
Mike was ripped but flat. RMJ will attribute that to Mike's HIT training that he supposedly didn't follow :/ (I say forget about John Little's Mentzer worshipping and take it up with Larry Pollock. He's the guy who said Mike "flipped," right? So why believe him about one thing but not the other?)
Walker was huge but a bit smooth, complete with bitch tits.
Arnold was Arnold. Tall, huge showy body parts and he dried out as the show went on. The judges should have been less forgiving of his antics -- No, Arnold! We called for side triceps, NOT a mantis pose! Do it right! -- but he was still the best that day.
That's right. methzer never did hit. John Terilli had trained with methzer in 1980 and saw him do 25 sets for the back alone. Fact is, methzer just didnt have it. He thought he was going to beat Arnold...lol. He couldn't even beat Zane so what chance did he have against Arnold? None. It was never going to happen for old meth head.
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I don't understand the "controversy."
Dickerson had ugly, small biceps and a droopy chest. He looked good in the back double biceps and his legs were sliced; otherwise, I was amazed he made the top two.
Frank looked okay but was way down in size. Boyer's lack of ab separation and his weird aesthetics cost him.
Mike was ripped but flat. RMJ will attribute that to Mike's HIT training that he supposedly didn't follow :/ (I say forget about John Little's Mentzer worshipping and take it up with Larry Pollock. He's the guy who said Mike "flipped," right? So why believe him about one thing but not the other?)
Walker was huge but a bit smooth, complete with bitch tits.
Arnold was Arnold. Tall, huge showy body parts and he dried out as the show went on. The judges should have been less forgiving of his antics -- No, Arnold! We called for side triceps, NOT a mantis pose! Do it right! -- but he was still the best that day.
A little bit of The Controversy started the minute Bill Pearl learned that Arnold was entering the show ,
He wanted to have a quick meeting to let the Competitors, he wasn't going to be part of the charade that was in store ,
However, he was convinced by Arnold and Ben to take the job as CBS commentator instead so he could have national exposure , he agreed
And ended up saying he was pulling out from judging panel because he was Dickerson's coach and didn't want to have a conflict" there.
Some of the guys (Tinerino and Boyer) were really pissed because they knew Pearl had no problem judging and placing Dickerson first place months prior at the Grand Prix which Dickerson won . lol
When the crew got back from Sydney , and the footage disappeared ... Thats when Mr Pearl felt they were playing with his name and time (weiders and Arnie) so from then on he had no problem saying that Dickerson Boyer and Mentzer were better than Arnold and Arnold was booed by entire opera house .
WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Barracuda mode
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That's right. methzer never did hit. John Terilli had trained with methzer in 1980 and saw him do 25 sets gor the back alone. Fact is, methzer just didnt have it. He thought he was going to beat Arnold...lol. He couldn't even beat Zane so what chance did he have against Arnold? None. It was never going to happen for old meth head.
Mentzer should have trained with Michalik.
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Arnold sucked Paul Graham´s dick for the ´80 Mr O :-X
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That's right. methzer never did hit. John Terilli had trained with methzer in 1980 and saw him do 25 sets gor the back alone. Fact is, methzer just didnt have it. He thought he was going to beat Arnold...lol. He couldn't even beat Zane so what chance did he have against Arnold? None. It was never going to happen for old meth head.
As I said, Larry Pollock disagrees.
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So does our own The Scott, who personally saw the Mentzers and Viator training in a HIT style in the late seventies.
I'm not sure why you're so wrapped around the axle when it comes to HIT. Even Fred Hatfield admits that it works. Is it necessarily better than, say, how Padilla trained? Absolutely NOT. But it helped me win my first show as a teenager (natty), and it didn't seem to hurt Larry's contest resume.
We've been down this road too many times, mate, and I can't help but to think we are speaking at cross-purposes sometimes. Let me ask you something: how do you define HIT?
I'm being earnest here, in an effort to understand one another. Consider it an olive branch.
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As I said, Larry Pollock disagrees.
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So does our own The Scott, who personally saw the Mentzers and Viator training in a HIT style in the late seventies.
I'm not sure why you're so wrapped around the axle when it comes to HIT. Even Fred Hatfield admits that it works. Is it necessarily better than, say, how Padilla trained? Absolutely NOT. But it helped me win my first show as a teenager (natty), and it didn't seem to hurt Larry's contest resume.
We've been down this road too many times, mate, and I can't help but to think we are speaking at cross-purposes sometimes. Let me ask you something: how do you define HIT?
I'm being earnest here, in an effort to understand one another. Consider it an olive branch.
Fred Hatfield was very critical on hit actually.
* decreasing rest between reps
* decreasing rest between sets
* increasing the number of exercises per body part
* increasing the total number of exercises or body parts trained at one session
* increasing the number of training sessions per day
* increasing the speed of movement
* increasing the amount of work done at the anaerobic threshold (maximum pain
tolerance)
* increasing the amount of eccentric work your muscles are required to perform.
Perhaps most importantly, going to failure is NOT a prerequisite to adaptation!
The SAID Principle is violated by the first commandment of HIT. Their idea is to go to failure all the time, but certain "specific" training objectives mitigate against it (e.g., speed training). And, the GAS Principle, which states that there must be a period of low intensity training or complete rest following periods of high intensity training, is violated. These guys go to failure all the time!
2. Attempt To Increase The Resistance Used Or The Repetitions Performed Every Workout.
"...every time you work out you should attempt to increase either the weight you use or the repetitions you perform in relation to your previous workout. This can be viewed as a "double progressive" technique (resistance and repetitions). Challenging your muscles in this manner will force them to adapt to the imposed demands (or stress)."
The SAID Principle is violated. Sometimes, lighter weights done rapidly is required. And sometimes heavier weights done for 3 reps is required. (If your training requires that you go to failure with a weight that's so heavy you can only do three reps, you are BEGGING for a MAJOR injury if that takes you to failure!) The GAS Principle is also violated. Alternating periods of high versus low intensity is a better way to go. If you wait until total recovery is accomplished in any given muscle, atrophy place.
3. Perform 1 To 3 Sets Of Each Exercise.
"...numerous research studies -- which I once again am probably viewed as dreaming up--have shown that there are no significant differences when performing either one, two or three sets of an exercise..."
Yep! You're dreaming pal! Dr. Richard Berger (my mentor during my doctoral studies at Temple) years ago showed that there IS a significant improvement in gains with three sets as opposed to one. Other studies have shown the same results. Nowadays, many athletes (bodybuilders included) do as many as 10 or more sets. Even Arthur Jones --the original HIT man --showed that people with white, fast-twitch muscles require fewer reps, sets and workouts per week than people with predominantly red, slow-twitch muscles.
Apparently, all HIT men are white muscle fiber guys? I think not! So, while none of the seven laws are violated here, some (especially the overload principle and the SAID principle) are not being applied to their maximum potential.
4. Reach Concentric Muscular Failure Within A Prescribed Number Of Repetitions.
"Repetition ranges differ from body part to body part and from coach to coach. In the course of training hundreds of collegiate athletes over the past eleven years, these are the ranges I usually assign: 15 to 20 (hip exercises), 10 to 15 (leg exercises) and 6 to 12 (upper body exercises). Other HIT strength coaches are pretty much in that neighborhood, with a few electing slightly lower ranges but not less than six."
Woah! You guys should be blushing on this one! The SAID principle as well as the principle of individual differences are quite specific in recognizing that not everyone is alike. Not everyone responds in the same way to any given rep/set scheme. Look again at my response to Commandment Three.
5. Perform Each Repetition With Proper Technique.
"A quality rep is performed by raising and lowering the weight in a deliberate, controlled manner. Lifting a weight in a rapid, explosive fashion is ill-advised for two reasons: (1) it exposes your muscles, joint structures and connective tissue to potentially dangerous forces which magnify the likelihood of an injury while strength training and (2) it introduces momentum into the movement which makes the exercise less productive and less efficient. Lifting a weight in about 1 to 2 seconds will guarantee that you're exercising in a safe, efficient manner. It should take about 3 to 4 seconds to lower the weight back to the starting/stretched position.
First, I grow weary of the HIT business of being "safe." Where in the book does it say that going slow and deliberate with a heavy weight is safer? I think otherwise. What about predisposing an athlete to greater harm on the playing field as a result of this sort of nonsensical preparatory training?
And, certainly, these slow, deliberate movements are not as effective as other methods in many instances. SOME reps are well performed in the manner described above. However, this commandment clearly disregards the importance of cheating movements, explosive lifting (e.g., the Olympic lifts), and many other techniques of lifting.
Further, slow, deliberate movements are nowhere NEAR as effective for forcing an adaptive response in connective tissues as are more explosive (and yes, often "ballistic") movements. So much for their claim to "safety!" Deinhibition of the Golgi tendon organ's protective feedback loop can be moved back far more effectively with controlled ballistic movements than with slow, deliberate movements. Clearly, this commandment is in violation of the Overcompensation, Specificity and SAID principles.
6. Strength Train For No More Than One Hour Per Workout.
"If you are training with a high level of intensity--and you should--you literally cannot exercise for a long period of time. ...Training with a minimal amount of recovery time between exercises will elicit a metabolic conditioning effect that cannot be approached by traditional multiple set programs. Don't ask me why cause I've been makin' all this stuff up as I go along."
Ol' Jedi Brzycki continues to put his sandalled foot on top of his golden tongue. Here, I think (one can't really tell) he's claiming that doing one set of squats, then one set of benches, then one set of pulldowns, then one set of curls, and one set of 3, 4, 5 or so additional exercises, and you're outta the gym. C'mon!
Clearly, this commandment is in violation of the Overcompensation, Specificity and SAID principles. Re-read my response to Commandment Three.
People are DIFFERENT!
7. Emphasize The Major Muscle Groups.
"The focal point for most of your exercises should be your major muscle groups (i.e. your hips, legs and upper torso)."
Oh? Have we lost sight of training weaknesses first? Bodybuilders know this instinctively. Most athletes do as well. Clearly, this commandment is in violation of the Specificity and SAID principles.
8. Whenever Possible, Work Your Muscles From Largest To Smallest.
"Exercise your hips first, then go to your legs (hams, quads and calves or dorsi flexors), upper torso (chest, upper back and shoulders), arms (biceps, triceps and forearms), abs and finally your low back."
Duhhhhh! Am I missing something? In the Eighth Commandment, you told us NOT to focus on smaller muscles! In addition to violating one of your own commandments, this commandment is in violation of the Specificity and SAID principles.
9. Strength Train 2 To 3 Times Per Week On Nonconsecutive Days.
"...a period of about 48 to 72 hours is necessary for muscle tissue to recover sufficiently from a strength workout. A period of at least 48 hours is also required to replenish your depleted carbohydrate stores.
...Performing any more than three sessions a week can gradually become counterproductive due to a catabolic effect. This occurs when the demands you have placed on your muscles have exceeded you recovery ability. Recovery time is adequate if you continue making gains."
Sometimes 48-72 hours is sufficient, and sometimes it's not. Depending upon the muscle involved it may be less or it may be more.
Remember:
* Big muscles take longer to recover than smaller ones
* Fast twitch muscles (your "explosive" muscles) take longer to recover than slow twitch muscle fibers ("endurance" muscles);
* Guys recover faster than girls;
* You recover faster from slow movements than from fast movements;
* You recover faster from low intensity training than from high intensity training.
* The older you get, the longer it takes to recover
By carbohydrate stores, do you mean glycogen? Not 48 hours...something closer to 2 or 3 hours! I, and every athlete I've ever trained, often trained twice a day! The Russian athletes do, the Bulgarian weightlifters train 3-6 times a day! And, even if there were (as Bryzcki put it) a "catabolic" effect, wouldn't that call for a "periodized approach to training?
Grand daddy laws violated with this one are the SAID, GAS and Specificity Principles.
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As I said, Larry Pollock disagrees.
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So does our own The Scott, who personally saw the Mentzers and Viator training in a HIT style in the late seventies.
I'm not sure why you're so wrapped around the axle when it comes to HIT. Even Fred Hatfield admits that it works. Is it necessarily better than, say, how Padilla trained? Absolutely NOT. But it helped me win my first show as a teenager (natty), and it didn't seem to hurt Larry's contest resume.
We've been down this road too many times, mate, and I can't help but to think we are speaking at cross-purposes sometimes. Let me ask you something: how do you define HIT?
I'm being earnest here, in an effort to understand one another. Consider it an olive branch.
Old larry is on the roids and doesn't do hit as methzer prescribed. Hit, historically, has a very dismal success rate. No top athlete uses it.
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Let's get the real story from the Big Man himself instead of listening to these cry babies whinging over how the 1980 was unfair. Somebody forgot to tell them it's a competition. It's an individual contest. No team playing. Arnold won simply because he was the best that day. Zane, Coe, Walker can shove it.
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Old larry is on the roids and doesn't do hit as methzer prescribed. Hit, historically, has a very dismal success rate. No top athlete uses it.
"no athlete uses it" says it all.
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All makes sense, interesting read. Arnold has always been a showman on stage and competition is about winning! They should have known arnold would ruffle feathers and choose to ignore it yet some still whine about it 40 years later.
Let's get the real story from the Big Man himself instead of listening to these cry babies whinging over how the 1980 was unfair. Somebody forgot to tell them it's a competition. It's an individual contest. No team playing. Arnold won simply because he was the best that day. Zane, Coe, Walker can shove it.
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WHO SHOULD HAVE WON THE 1980 MR OLYMPIA CONTEST?
John Little has ran out of material and is regurgitating the old vids again. He had already covered this topic in his older vids. The methzer fans in the comments of course claiming that methzer should've won...it was a fix...Arnold, Weider blah blah blah. Same old shit. Little trying desperately hard to rewrite history that methzer somehow won. The hit cult don't like the fact methzer could never win against a superior bodybuilder like Arnold. Even when Arnold was at 90% of his best he still bested methzer who was supposedly at his best (he wasn't as he had a deflated chest, fat ass, undeveloped back, deformed traps, narrow clavicles, small arms with biceps having no peak, small frame, protruding gut). No wonder he came 5th.
Despite the anti Arnold crap that's coming from the hit cult the fact remains Arnold won the 1980 olympia because he was the best that day and that is how it will remain. Doesn't matter how many dully vids Little comes up with trying..and failing..to prove otherwise Arnold was the winner. The hit cult can suck on that.
Funny how he never has vids of real evidence of methzer's methods working.
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Mentzer's methods work even less for naturals which most of the (s)HIT warriors consist of.
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Does anyone know where exactly Franco Columbu is buried?
I wouldn't be surprised if the CBS 1980 Olympia footage is in the casket laying next to our beloved Sardinian.
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Mentzer's methods work even less for naturals which most of the (s)HIT warriors consist of.
are you frustrated?
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The were moments ....definitely worth watching remastered from different angles from a never released footage.
Perhaps we can have Boyer and Zane joining the thread. ;D
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The were moments ....definitely worth watching remastered from different angles from a never released footage.
Perhaps we can have Boyer and Zane joining the thread. ;D
methzer looking awful there. Back is undeveloped with his deformed traps being very noticable. Too much fat in the glutes and hamstrings giving him that bottom heavy look along with his mall frame. How anyone can ever think he could ever have won this olympia is just plain laughable.
Glady have Zane and Coe on here so we can then call them out for being such pathetic cry babies.
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methzer looking awful there. Back is undeveloped with his deformed traps being very noticable. Too much fat in the glutes and hamstrings giving him that bottom heavy look along with his mall frame. How anyone can ever think he could ever have won this olympia are just plain laughable.
Glady have Zane and Coe on here so we can then call them out for being such pathetic dry babies.
:D what a clown
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:D what a clown
Yes, methzer certainly was a clown. Glad you agree.
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are you frustrated?
Not at all as I don't train with the (s)HIT program.
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methzer didn't even have a chest. 😁😆😂
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W ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;DSH
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W ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;DSH
Arnold dominating meth head.
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The losers.
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finally watched the entire Jay Cutler /Shawn Ray interview
the highliight of interview
1980 Mr.O
Shawn " Ok Arnold legs were down .wide waist but you couldn't take your eyes off him the entire contest."
Jay "(annoying chicken voice) "People say Arnold didn't deserve to win "
Shawn - Then who you think should have ?
Jay - (afraid to vent his own opinion)" Well ... Samir Banout says Mentzer was the best man that year "
Shawn - Mentzer? the guy finished 5th ... Dickerson was the runner up ...funny how people keeps mentioning Mike Mentzer .
WooooSHHHHHHHHH OCT 4th 1980
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finally watched the entire Jay Cutler /Shawn Ray interview
the highliight of interview
1980 Mr.O
Shawn " Ok Arnold legs were down .wide waist but you couldn't take your eyes off him the entire contest."
Jay "(annoying chicken voice) "People say Arnold didn't deserve to win "
Shawn - Then who you think should have ?
Jay - " Well ... Samir Banout says Mentzer was the best man that year "
Shawn - Mentzer? the guy finished 5th ... Dickerson was the runner up ...funny how people keeps mentioning Mike Mentzer .
WooooSHHHHHHHHH OCT 4th 1980
Well they summarized 40 years of arguing perfectly...
Did they tackle Israel-Palestine too?
Did Jay or Shawn give a hot take on Ukraine?
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Well they summarized 40 years of arguing perfectly...
Did they tackle Israel-Palestine too?
Did Jay or Shawn give a hot take on Ukraine?
At the political podcast they did.
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=1432642;image)
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=1432642;image)
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
meth head with his no peak biceps, undeveloped back with deformed traps and carrying too much fat in the glutes giving him that bottom heavy look. Small wonder he came 5th.
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finally watched the entire Jay Cutler /Shawn Ray interview
the highliight of interview
1980 Mr.O
Shawn " Ok Arnold legs were down .wide waist but you couldn't take your eyes off him the entire contest."
Jay "(annoying chicken voice) "People say Arnold didn't deserve to win "
Shawn - Then who you think should have ?
Jay - (afraid to vent his own opinion)" Well ... Samir Banout says Mentzer was the best man that year "
Shawn - Mentzer? the guy finished 5th ... Dickerson was the runner up ...funny how people keeps mentioning Mike Mentzer .
WooooSHHHHHHHHH OCT 4th 1980
Good one Shawn. Even he knows.
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(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=1475113;image)
This is what Arnold should have said in his recent 3 episodes long documentary .
instead of making viewers believe his last contest was in AFRICA 75' LOL
Again, I think he was the best man in Sydney , although in this photo alone Dickeson looks perfect
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=1475115;image)
Bodybuilding is the muscle
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methzer didn't even have a chest. 😁😆😂
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Amy Reisenbach, I know you’re reading this. Release the footage you stinky cunt!
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methzer didn't even have a chest. 😁😆😂
RMJ, a bit of advice for you... if you ever get called by a panther, don't anther.
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(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=1475118;image)
A complete misunderstood individual .
Mentzer definitely was born in the wrong era.
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Beakdoctor, a bit of advice for you... if you ever try to spell, use a dictionary
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A complete misunderstood individual .
Mentzer definitely was born in the wrong era.
Not misunderstood at all. A con man who stole ideas from other people without having a single original thought himself. When that failed he blamed others for his own dismal failures, went nuts, became an old has been that never was then died because of his failure to look after his health.
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As I had correctly stated. He had no chest. 😆
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Master Mind Mike Mentzer Dead 20+ years yet still alive
& driving the Feeble Minded mad with Rage. ;D :D ;D
Long Live Mike Mentzer the Owner of Minds.
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Master Mind Mike Mentzer Dead 20+ years yet not alive
& driving the Feeble Minded mad like Illuminati with Rage. ;D :D ;D
Long Live RMJ11 the Owner of Minds.
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Master Mind Mike Mentzer Dead 20+ years yet still alive
& driving the Feeble Minded mad with Rage. ;D :D ;D
Long Live Mike Mentzer the Owner of Minds.
One can easily say that the most controversial BB contest in history was Mr.O 1980,
where most people say that the guy who ended up fifth should have won, and that guy happens to be Mentzer! ...who never came back .... So he became immortal ...... no ones remeber who came 2nd or third or 4th lol
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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One can easily say that the most controversial BB contest in history was Mr.O 1980,
where most people say that the guy who ended up fifth should have won, and that guy happens to be Mentzer! ...who never came back .... So he became immortal ...... no ones remeber who came 2nd or third or 4th lol
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Immortal at forever 5th place. 😆😆😆
Dickerson 2nd , Zane 3rd and Coe 4th. All placing before methzer. 😂😂😂
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Arnold would look even leaner and meaner in the remastered unreleased footage that's for damn sure.
(If Amazon prime can get its hands on it)
wosh
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WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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The Immortal Mike Mentzer.... no matter how long he's been gone he still lives on in RMJ's head.
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The Immortal Mike Mentzer.... no matter how long he's been gone he still lives on in my head.
You poor thing. 😆
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Exactly. Arnold's bowling ball bicep superior to Coe's peanut sized bicep. Just goes to show Arnold was the best that night. Nothing is ever going to change that fact.
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Exactly. Arnold's bowling bowl bicep superior to Coe's peanut sized bicep. Just goes to show Arnold was the best that night. Nothing is ever going to change that fact.
ball/bowl. look into it.
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ball/bowl. Fixed.
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Exactly. Arnold's bowling ball bicep superior to Coe's peanut sized bicep. Just goes to show Arnold was the best that night. Nothing is ever going to change that fact.
It takes a lot of confidence to hit that pose next to Arnold lol .... it goes to show you they all thought they were beating Arnold that night .
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WRONG! They all knew they were going to lose. Arnold was a master poser. If someone hit a pose and Arnold was better in it he would hit the same pose to dwarf them ( example here with coe) and if someone hit a pose that Arnold thought he didn't look as good in he would then hit one of hid better poses to get the attention on himself. And of course it always worked. In a post above someone said that "MOST people thought methead won". Smh That is funny because only methead and a few others ( methead fans) actually thought he won. Oh and of course anyone who didn't like Arnold.
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WRONG! They all knew they were going to lose. Arnold was a master poser. If someone hit a pose and Arnold was better in it he would hit the same pose to dwarf them ( example here with coe) and if someone hit a pose that Arnold thought he didn't look as good in he would then hit one of hid better poses to get the attention on himself. And of course it always worked. In a post above someone said that "MOST people thought methead won". Smh That is funny because only methead and a few others ( methead fans) actually thought he won. Oh and of course anyone who didn't like Arnold.
Exactly. Great post.
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WRONG! They all knew they were going to lose. Arnold was a master poser. If someone hit a pose and Arnold was better in it he would hit the same pose to dwarf them ( example here with coe) and if someone hit a pose that Arnold thought he didn't look as good in he would then hit one of hid better poses to get the attention on himself. And of course it always worked. In a post above someone said that "MOST people thought methead won". Smh That is funny because only methead and a few others ( methead fans) actually thought he won. Oh and of course anyone who didn't like Arnold.
Yep, Arnold was the master of competition. He was a giant among midgets both mentally and physically.
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No one ever talks about 2nd place, The Shitter "Joe Dicks-his-Son"...
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Arnold Schwarzenegger won his seventh Mr. Olympia and officially retired from professional bodybuilding.
Unlike the 1975-1979 Mr. Olympia contests which had two weight divisions (above and below 200lbs), this contest had no weight divisions, returning to the 1965-1973 format where large and small bodybuilders competed directly against one another.
The loss and resulting controversy had a major impact on Mike Mentzer personally and professionally; it would be the last time he competed in professional bodybuilding, and he swore until the day he died that the event was rigged.
According to Chris Dickerson, "the promoter was a real low life, a bigot, who had a real dislike for me –partly on racial grounds and partly for my sexual orientation." Paul Graham even told another official that "Chris couldn't win because he was a fag."
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Arnold Schwarzenegger won his seventh Mr. Olympia and officially retired from professional bodybuilding.
Unlike the 1975-1979 Mr. Olympia contests which had two weight divisions (above and below 200lbs), this contest had no weight divisions, returning to the 1965-1973 format where large and small bodybuilders competed directly against one another.
The loss and resulting controversy had a major impact on Mike Mentzer personally and professionally; it would be the last time he competed in professional bodybuilding, and he swore until the day he died that the event was rigged.
According to Chris Dickerson, "the promoter was a real low life, a bigot, who had a real dislike for me –partly on racial grounds and partly for my sexual orientation." Paul Graham even told another official that "Chris couldn't win because he was a fag."
So, the judge turned down Dickerson's sexual advances.
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Arnold Schwarzenegger won his seventh Mr. Olympia and officially retired from professional bodybuilding.
Unlike the 1975-1979 Mr. Olympia contests which had two weight divisions (above and below 200lbs), this contest had no weight divisions, returning to the 1965-1973 format where large and small bodybuilders competed directly against one another.
The loss and resulting controversy had a major impact on Mike Mentzer personally and professionally; it would be the last time he competed in professional bodybuilding, and he swore until the day he died that the event was rigged.
According to Chris Dickerson, "the promoter was a real low life, a bigot, who had a real dislike for me –partly on racial grounds and partly for my sexual orientation." Paul Graham even told another official that "Chris couldn't win because he was a fag. Plus He had a shitty looking physique"
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WRONG! They all knew they were going to lose. Arnold was a master poser. If someone hit a pose and Arnold was better in it he would hit the same pose to dwarf them ( example here with coe) and if someone hit a pose that Arnold thought he didn't look as good in he would then hit one of hid better poses to get the attention on himself. And of course it always worked. In a post above someone said that "MOST people thought methead won". Smh That is funny because only methead and a few others ( methead fans) actually thought he won. Oh and of course anyone who didn't like Arnold.
WRONG? lol ...how so? youre saying the same exact thing I said lol .... You're only implying what you feel Arnold thought when hitting a dominating pose , its common knowledge that most competitors had Arnold out of top 6 (during the damn show) ..... Not saying I agree but quiet the opposite buddy , how wrong they were lol ..... As for you throwing methead in it ? didnt even mentioned the guy ,,,,
Most people here had like a car crash like experience with Mentzer , for some weird reason they wont let a day go by without bringing him up.
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WRONG? lol ...how so? youre saying the same exact thing I said lol .... You're only implying what you feel Arnold thought when hitting a dominating pose , its common knowledge that most competitors had Arnold out of top 6 (during the damn show) ..... Not saying I agree but quiet the opposite buddy , how wrong they were lol ..... As for you throwing methead in it ? didnt even mentioned the guy ,,,,
Most people here had like a car crash like experience with Mentzer , for some weird reason they wont let a day go by without bringing him up.
Nothing wrong with exposing a loon fraud like methzer.
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Wrong meant that no coe didn't hit the pose to compare his arm to Arnolds. Just the opposite. Coe hit a pose so Arnold hit his. And Wrong they ALL didn't think they were beating Arnold. Only one person did and that was Methead. I brought up Methead NOT because of your post. I even stated "in a post above" the person said EVERYONE thought MEATHEAD was the winner. NO not everyone did just Meth and his hit nuts and those who didnt like Arnold. So my bringing up methead had NOTHING to do with your post per se. Oh and gay dickerson was a typical black. He lost so it HAD to be racism. Smh. Ever notice how when they win they never say " I didn't deserve to win but I did win only BECAUSE I am black". But the minute they lose its only racism ( or because they are gay or whatever) I don't see how dickerson EVER won anything. Probably the worst Mr O ever! ( from Coleman on to the present don't count because to me they all look like shit. Huge just for huge sack. No symmetry or proportion and they just get worse. )
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So true about Dickerson, you can say he had good calves and back but every pose his flaws are obvious, he was never the best looking physique in his olympia wins.
Wrong meant that no coe didn't hit the pose to compare his arm to Arnolds. Just the opposite. Coe hit a pose so Arnold hit his. And Wrong they ALL didn't think they were beating Arnold. Only one person did and that was Methead. I brought up Methead NOT because of your post. I even stated "in a post above" the person said EVERYONE thought MEATHEAD was the winner. NO not everyone did just Meth and his hit nuts and those who didnt like Arnold. So my bringing up methead had NOTHING to do with your post per se. Oh and gay dickerson was a typical black. He lost so it HAD to be racism. Smh. Ever notice how when they win they never say " I didn't deserve to win but I did win only BECAUSE I am black". But the minute they lose its only racism ( or because they are gay or whatever) I don't see how dickerson EVER won anything. Probably the worst Mr O ever! ( from Coleman on to the present don't count because to me they all look like shit. Huge just for huge sack. No symmetry or proportion and they just get worse. )
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Wrong meant that no coe didn't hit the pose to compare his arm to Arnolds. Just the opposite. Coe hit a pose so Arnold hit his. And Wrong they ALL didn't think they were beating Arnold. Only one person did and that was Methead. I brought up Methead NOT because of your post. I even stated "in a post above" the person said EVERYONE thought MEATHEAD was the winner. NO not everyone did just Meth and his hit nuts and those who didnt like Arnold. So my bringing up methead had NOTHING to do with your post per se. Oh and gay dickerson was a typical black. He lost so it HAD to be racism. Smh. Ever notice how when they win they never say " I didn't deserve to win but I did win only BECAUSE I am black". But the minute they lose its only racism ( or because they are gay or whatever) I don't see how dickerson EVER won anything. Probably the worst Mr O ever! ( from Coleman on to the present don't count because to me they all look like shit. Huge just for huge sack. No symmetry or proportion and they just get worse. )
Generally speaking, that is a great point.
I have to assume that Chris was one of those people who looked better in person. He had great legs, back, shoulders, triceps and forearms. He was also able to pose in a way that made him look wider than he was. He was very dense too.
A lot of his contemporaries speak highly of him. But a few, like Danny Padilla and Roger Walker, have said that they always thought he was average. Almost everyone who knew him spoke highly of his character though.
Just saw the recent Legends of Bodybuilding podcast. Roy Callender and Bill Neylon said Franco disliked and dismissed Chris because he was a homosexual. But Franco was the only one.
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HOW A BODYBUILDING COMPETITION IS WON
At the 5:55 mark Jay talks briefly about 1980 mr.O (once again) ;D ...saying it's really hard to argue that Mentzer should have won if he only placed 5th" ......
DUH! Probably that's the whole point of that Olympia being the most controversial ....
Robby Robison said that the Weider system was the "dominating system" and no F way they were gonna allow Heavy duty hyped-up system" to get even top three cause it was all about business.
WoooSHHHH OCT 4th
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HOW A BODYBUILDING COMPETITION IS WON
At the 5:55 mark Jay talks briefly about 1980 mr.O (once again) ;D ...saying it's really hard to argue that Mentzer should have won if he only placed 5th" ......
DUH! Probably that's the whole point of that Olympia being the most controversial ....
Robby Robison said that the Weider system was the "dominating system" and no F way they were gonna allow Heavy duty hyped-up system" to get even top three cause it was all about business.
WoooSHHHH OCT 4th
Was Cutler there at the 1980 olympia? No. He hasn't a clue. methzer came 5th, not 2nd but 5th and for good reason. He looked like shit. He got placed behind 4 superior bodybuilders. There simply was no fix. It's a myth. Nothing more.
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Was i there there at the 1980 olympia? No. I haven't a fucking clue.
MIKE MENTZER should've won.
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Nothing wrong with exposing a loon & fraud like Me
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Was i there there at the 1980 olympia? No. I haven't a fucking clue.
You're right. You have no clue.
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Nothing wrong with exposing a loon & fraud like Me
Glad you admit it at last. I knew you would eventually. 😆
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Was Cutler there at the 1980 olympia? No. He hasn't a clue. methzer came 5th, not 2nd but 5th and for good reason. He looked like shit. He got placed behind 4 superior bodybuilders. There simply was no fix. It's a myth. Nothing more.
God damn, chill the fuck out you fuckin loon. Jay is saying the same thing as you: Mentzer didn't deserve to win. He wasn't even close. He was 5th. Holy shit, it's amazing you need a translator for that.
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God (there is no god) damn Illumanti, will you chill the fuck out you fuckin loon. Jay is saying the same thing as you: methzer didn't deserve to win. He wasn't even close. He was 5th. Holy shit, it's amazing you need a translator for that. methzer fans...sheesh.
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Ironically almost every one ( next generation of Olympia competitors and champs ) say neither Mentzer nor Arnold should have won the 1980 . Well at some point Yates , Banout,Dickerson and Heath felt Mentzer was better between the two.
And to make matters more controversial neither Arnie or Mentzer came came back to compete ever again, and Arnold bought (or stole) the raw footage so there you have it. A chapter tough to close.
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Ironically almost every one ( next generation of Olympia competitors and champs ) say neither Mentzer nor Arnold should have won the 1980 . Well at some point Yates , Banout,Dickerson and Heath felt Mentzer was better between the two.
And to make matters more controversial neither Arnie or Mentzer came came back to compete ever again, and Arnold bought (or stole) the raw footage so there you have it. A chapter tough to close.
Wrong on many accounts.
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You're right. I admit it I have no Fucking clue.
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I'm Wrong on many accounts all the time ignore me .
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Glad you see I'm a complete Khvnt. I knew every one would eventually. 😆
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You're right. I admit it I have no Fucking clue.
😉
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I'm Wrong on many accounts all the time ignore me
Most do. 😁
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Glad you see I'm a complete Khvnt. I knew every one would eventually. 😆
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Most do on here argue with me - pointless as its like arguing with a dead fish as
I haven't got a Fucking clue.
Plus I'm a liberal leftist khvnt & a Queer Cuckold Faggott
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Most do on here argue with me and win since I'm pointless as its like arguing with a dead fish as
I haven't got a Fucking clue.
Plus I'm a liberal leftist khvnt & a Queer Cuckold Faggott
😆
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Nothing like October 1980
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Was Cutler there at the 1980 olympia? No. He hasn't a clue.
Were you present?
methzer came 5th, not 2nd but 5th and for good reason. He looked like shit. He got placed behind 4 superior bodybuilders. There simply was no fix. It's a myth. Nothing more.
Mike was okay in 1980. A bit flat and overdepleted, but to say he looked like shit just betrays your weird hard-on for "Methzer" (huh huh, so clever, since Mike admitted to using uppers).
Since you are so vocal about just how badly Mike sucks and you look better and know how to better train, why not throw up a few pics?
You called out one of our vets, Tim Wescott, who has a great contest record a mile long. You posted something truly _nasty_ about Big Ro's father passing.
These men you're picking at are national level competitors. Can you match them?
Ah!
I forgot something.
You say there was no fix in the placings in 1980?
Great -- but that cuts both ways. No fix? Then your pal Mentzer earned his tie for fourth with Coe, and ultimately, fifth.
I do agree that Arnold, for all his onstage antics, still won. Dickersuckerson in second? Probably not...good quads, good back and solid side tri, but ugly abs, the smallest arms in the show, droopy pecs...how they rated him so highly, I'll never know. I can only reckon that Chris, as an openly queer, blew the right judges *shrug*
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Was I present? Not likely.
Mike was crap in 1980. Totally flat and overdepleted, but to say he looked like shit just confirms my weird hard-on for "methzer" ( so clever, since mike admitted to using meth).
Since I'm so vocal about just how badly methzer sucks and I look better and know how to better train, I'll throw up some pics.
I called out one of our vets, Tim Wescott, who has a terrible contest record a mile long. I also posted something truly _funny_ about Illumanti's father passing.
These girlie men I'm picking at are has beens who never was.
Ah!
I forgot something.
I said there was no fix in the placings in 1980.
Great No fix. Then my dead pal methzer never earned his tie for fourth with Coe, and ultimately, got fifth.
I do agree that Arnold, for all his onstage antics, still won. Dickersuckerson in second? Probably not...good quads, good back and solid side tri, but ugly abs, the smallest arms in the show, droopy pecs...how they rated him so highly, I'll never know. I can only reckon that Chris, as an openly queer, blew the right judges *shrug*
Arnold won and deservedly so.
Glad you agree. Thumbs 👍
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Nothing like October 1980
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
And what's so amusing is that meth head was convinced he could beat Arnold. 😆😆😆😆
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:)
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:)
Great find
WooSSHHHHHHHHHHHH HULU plus
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WooooSSHHHHHHHHHHH
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Mentzer stood a good few feet infront of arnold and half as wide, arnold thicker chest, better midsection. If he was out of shape what was mike?
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Mentzer stood a good few feet infront of arnold and half as wide, arnold thicker chest, better midsection. If he was out of shape what was mike?
5th place.
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5th place.
;D 8)
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Mentzer stood a good few feet infront of arnold and half as wide, arnold thicker chest, better midsection. If he was out of shape what was mike?
Good point.
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;D
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WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Arnold was on cocaine at the 1980 O
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Arnold was on cocaine at the 1980 O
one magazine in 1981 said he was checked on the plane for cocaine.
he said he had already given it up and that point.
unless he bought some down under!!
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Arnold was on cocaine at the 1980 O
Everyone probably was.
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Arnold was on cocaine at the 1980 O
That Russian son of a B*" ( Mentzer's voice) ;D
My Xmas gift? Raw unedited extra explicit 1980 (what really happened in Sydney ) Mr.Olympia Amazon Prime exclusive
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 4K
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That Russian son of a B*" ( Mentzer's voice) ;D
My Xmas gift? Raw unedited extra explicit 1980 (what really happened in Sydney ) Mr.Olympia Amazon Prime exclusive
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 4K
CBS, if you’re reading this which you probably are, RELEASE THE GOD DAMN FOOTAGE!!! *Mentzer on amphetamines voice*
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Cbs footage would just further cement arnolds superiority
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Cbs footage would just further cement arnolds superiority
Exactly. Cbs don't have any extra footage anyhow. It's all a myth about there being any unreleased footage.
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Exactly. Cbs don't have any extra footage anyhow. It's all a myth about there being any unreleased footage.
Please kill yourself ASAP.
Now alter my post loser.
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Kill myself ASAP.
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Gay methzer
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Exactly. Cbs don't have any extra footage anyhow. It's all a myth about there being any unreleased footage.
Mythzer
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That's a great mm shot!
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arnold won enough looked good enough,,like haney in tested 90 mr o down in size but good enough..
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Gay methzer
Mentzer was a handsome devil ( no homo )
Unlike the rest of IFBB he was very articulated, intellectual and fluent.
Looks like a village people’s YMCA on roids.
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Mentzer was a handsome devil ( no homo )
Unlike the rest of IFBB he was very articulated, intellectual and fluent.
Looks like a village people’s YMCA on roids.
Pseudo intellectual.
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Booing or not... the video does not lie. Arnold (25lbs lighter than he was previously) was the best bodybuilder on that day.
Get over it.
The End!
Yes absolutely he never looked better that's what I think.
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Mentzer was a handsome devil ( homo )
Unlike the rest of IFBB he was not very articulated, intellectual and fluent.
Looks like a village people’s YMCA gaybo.
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Summer Redstone, owner of National Amusements, which owns Paramount Global, which owns CBS, has the raw footage of the 1980 Mr. Olympia and keeps it under lock and key in a private chest in her boudoir.
She has watched it over 3,000 times and many weekends go by where she will retreat to her bedroom with a mustachioed man and nothing other than the reels, a projector, a double ended dildo and a box of amyl nitrite.
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Exactly. Cbs don't have any extra footage anyhow. It's all a myth about there being any unreleased footage.
Hope this helps
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Oct 4th 1980
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Hope this helps
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Oct 4th 1980
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WooooSHHHHHH The damage, the damage, the damage ( Simon Lebon's voice )
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Hope this helps
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Oct 4th 1980
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Yep. All a myth. Cbs haven't got the footage. It's long been destroyed or it simply never existed in the first place.
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^^^ Damn Arnold must’ve been worried if he put up a sign in the gym 😂
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Mentzer’s left bicep is bigger than Arnold’s right bicep
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Mentzer’s left bicep is smaller than Arnold’s right bicep
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Maybe if Mike did more then one set of bench for chest he might have built one.
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Maybe if Mike did more then one set of bench for chest he might have built one.
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No chest methzer. methzer is gone.
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Hope this helps
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Oct 4th 1980
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Going to take a minute to call Bill Pearl out on some bullshit....
He supposedly stepped down as a judge for the 80 O due to a conflict of interest as he was Dickersons trainer.
But c'mon he judged other shows with Dickerson. And a conflict of interest doesn't apply to color commentary?
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Maybe if Mike did more then one set of bench for chest he might have built one.
:D WOOOSH
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Maybe if Mike did more then one set of bench for chest he might have built one.
:D WOOOSH
Hi RMJ11 😂😂
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Hi ROYALTY 😂😂
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Hi RMJ11 😂😂
Easy man. I'm not Rimjob11. That's just mean
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Easy man. I'm not Rimjob11. That's just mean
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Arnold was too much of a bitch to even make eye contact with the Genius
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Arnold was too much of a bitch to even make eye contact with the Genius
This conflict has been the topic of debate and has grown in legend over the years... before this feud is settled it could take hundreds of years and cost thousands of lives.
What was the powder keg for such warfare?
Similar to the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria kicking off world War I... The Arch Duke of Bodybuilding, the Austrian Oak, told Mentzer that he had a big belly. This insult was the defacto assassination of Mentzer, who never recovered and ultimately died (19 years later.)
This is a grievous matter of extreme importance. We may never peacefully resolve this aggression. Pro Mentzer rebels are assembling for a counter offensive as we speak.
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This conflict has been the topic of debate and has grown in legend over the years... before this feud is settled it could take hundreds of years and cost thousands of lives.
What was the powder keg for such warfare?
Similar to the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria kicking off world War I... The Arch Duke of Bodybuilding, the Austrian Oak, told Mentzer that he had a big belly.
This is a grievous matter of extreme importance. We may never peacefully resolve this aggression. Pro Mentzer rebels are assembling for a counter offensive as we speak.
Lmao!
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When George Butler released the book Portrait of a bodybuilder was it 1990 ?
it was meant to be mainly pictures from 1980 Olympia both on and off stage...
There's anecdotes how Arnold only trashed Mentzer and asked Butler to have less 1980 Mr.O pics and more personal/family oriented photos to promote his persona outside of the gym .......Book ended up being mostly candid Pics of a downsized Arnold in Austria ......( All photos from Butler collection of course).
There's even a comment" prologue" on that book about Mentzer and how Arnold ruined his life" or something to that effect without even mentioning Mentzer.
We'll keep investigating .... hoping HULU is not stealing precious info from this thread.
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH H
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This conflict has been the topic of debate and has grown in legend over the years... before this feud is settled it could take hundreds of years and cost thousands of lives.
What was the powder keg for such warfare?
Similar to the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria kicking off world War I... The Arch Duke of Bodybuilding, the Austrian Oak, told Mentzer that he had a big belly. This insult was the defacto assassination of Mentzer, who never recovered and ultimately died (19 years later.)
This is a grievous matter of extreme importance. We may never peacefully resolve this aggression. Pro Mentzer rebels are assembling for a counter offensive as we speak.
(https://media.tenor.com/g0LFz5TC2VoAAAAC/mike-o%27hearn-meme-mike-bar.gif)
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Arnold was too much of a bitch to even make eye contact with the Genius
Arnold hardly looks worried or remotely concerned by Mike does he.
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Arnold hardly looks worried or remotely concerned by Mike does he.
Arnold had a Mr.Hollywood attitude since he arrived to Sydney ...
Imagine how he felt on his way back to the US with the Sandow in his bag.....
I can understand the frustration from the entire lineup.
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Easy man. I'm not Rimjob11. That's just mean
Royalty isn't doing too well at the moment. He's in a crisis cycle of excited delirium. He's hallucinating and thinks everyone is Rmj. I think he's suffering an emotional breakdown.
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Royalty isn't doing too well at the moment. He's in a crisis cycle of excited delirium. He's hallucinating and thinks everyone is Rmj. I think he's suffering an emotional breakdown.
You have 20 accounts.
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You have 20 accounts.
You're escalating again on your crisis cycle. Believing everyone is Rmj, furiously beating off to pictures of mentzer, posting more pics, having paranoid delusions, believing everyone is Rmj.
You've been at it awhile now. You should get some rest.
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You're escalating again on your crisis cycle. Believing everyone is Rmj, furiously beating off to pictures of mentzer, posting more pics, having paranoid delusions, believing everyone is Rmj.
You've been at it awhile now. You should get some rest.
You sound angry again. Just like RMJ11.
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WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Looks narrow for 6’1
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You sound angry again. Just like RMJ11.
I sound angry? Are you hearing voices?
Listen, you're on a roller coaster of emotions. You're upset with me, you're longing for more , yet unseen, pictures of the Mentzer brothers, you're so strung out on Mike that you'll even settle for a pic of a downsized Boyer Coe on the nautilus leg press or an angry Ray in grass stained sneakers, you're having paranoid delusions about multiple Rmj accounts, you've been , bizarrely, demanding pictures of umbrellas and upside down coffee mugs and now you're hearing my voice apparently. I think you're in a bit of a manic state. You've been on one. Take a rest.
Next thing you know you'll be running down Venice Blvd
totally nude and drinking your own urine. Only no one will ever accuse you of being a genius or confuse you with ever having worked out. :-\
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I sound angry? Are you hearing voices?
Listen, you're on a roller coaster of emotions. You're upset with me, you're longing for more , yet unseen, pictures of the Mentzer brothers, you're so strung out on Mike that you'll even settle for a pic of a downsized Boyer Coe on the nautilus leg press or an angry Ray in grass stained sneakers, you're having paranoid delusions about multiple Rmj accounts, you've been , bizarrely, demanding pictures of umbrellas and upside down coffee mugs and now you're hearing my voice apparently. I think you're in a bit of a manic state. You've been on one. Take a rest.
Next thing you know you'll be running down Venice Blvd
totally nude and drinking your own urine. Only no one will ever accuse you of being a genius or confuse you with ever having worked out. :-\
Hi RMJ11
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I’m seeing double! Two Mike Mentzers!
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I’m seeing double! Two Mike Mentzers!
Ed
though its funny you mention that. in one muscle and fitness
they had a pic that looked like two mike mentzers side by
side.
i told my friend in high school ray and mike were twins and that was the
two of them. he believed me.
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Chris Dickerson looks pretty damn good there
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Chris Dickerson looks pretty damn good there
The judges thought so too.
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i told my friend in high school ray and mike were twins and that was the
two of them. he believed me.
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Ah, yes. The Mentzer twins
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Chris Dickerson looks pretty damn good there
The best from the back.
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Ah, yes. The Mentzer twins
I'm sure ND can find the pic..
it was in a muscle and fitness after the 80 olympia.
the issue had a gold cover with many pics of arnold.
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Dickerson looks like a lightweight there.
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Dickerson looks like a lightweight there.
A lightweight who lacked size, no biceps and an awful looking chest.
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A lightweight who lacked size, no biceps and an awful looking chest.
YEAH,HE WAS COMPLETE SHIT:
Chris Dickerson:
1966
Mr Atlantic Coast - AAU, Overall Winner
Mr Eastern America - AAU, Overall Winner
Junior Mr USA - AAU, Winner
Junior Mr USA - AAU, Most Muscular, 1st
Mr New York City - AAU, Overall Winner
Mr New York Metropolitan - AAU, Overall Winner
Mr New York State - AAU, Overall Winner
Mr North America - AAU, 2nd
1967
Mr America - AAU, 6th
Mr America - AAU, Most Muscular, 4th
Mr California - AAU, Winner
Junior Mr America - AAU, 4th
Junior Mr America - AAU, Most Muscular, 5th
1968
Mr America - AAU, Most Muscular, 3rd
Mr America - AAU, 3rd
Junior Mr America - AAU, 3rd
Mr USA - AAU, Winner
Mr USA - AAU, Most Muscular, 2nd
1969
Mr America - AAU, 2nd
Junior Mr America - AAU, 2nd
1970
Mr America - AAU, Winner
Mr America - AAU, Most Muscular, 1st
Junior Mr America - AAU, Winner
Junior Mr America - AAU, Most Muscular, 1st
Mr Universe - NABBA, Short, 1st
1971
Mr Universe - NABBA, Short, 1st
1973
Pro Mr America - WBBG, Winner
Mr Universe - NABBA, Overall Winner
Mr Universe - NABBA, Short, 1st
1974
Universe - Pro - NABBA, Short, 1st
Universe - Pro - NABBA, Overall Winner
1975
Universe - Pro - PBBA, 2nd
Pro Mr World - WBBG, 2nd
1976
Olympus - WBBG, 4th
Universe - Pro - NABBA, 3rd
Universe - Pro - NABBA, Short, 2nd
1979
Canada Diamond Pro Cup - IFBB, 2nd
Canada Pro Cup - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Vancouver - IFBB, 2nd
Olympia - IFBB, LightWeight, 4th
1980
Canada Pro Cup - IFBB, Winner
Florida Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix California - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Louisiana - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix Miami - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Pennsylvania - IFBB, 2nd
Night of Champions - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, 2nd
Pittsburgh Pro Invitational - IFBB, 2nd
1981
Grand Prix California - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Louisiana - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix New England - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix Washington - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix World Cup - IFBB, 2nd
Night of Champions - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, 2nd
Professional World Cup - IFBB, 2nd
1982
Olympia - IFBB, Winner
1984
Olympia - IFBB, 11th
1990
Arnold Classic - IFBB, 8th
1994
Olympia - Masters - IFBB, 4th
Magazines
1968 July Vol 27, Num 5 IronMan
1969 March Strength and Health
1969 September Vol 28, Num 6 IronMan
1970 January Strength and Health
1970 June Vol 7, Num 6 Muscular Development
1970 July Vol 29, Num 5 IronMan
1970 July Strength and Health
1971 October Vol 100, Num 10 Health and Strength
1971 November Vol 100, Num 11 Health and Strength
1972 May Vol 31, Num 4 IronMan
1972 June Vol 9, Num 6 Muscular Development
1972 September Num 34 Muscle Training Illustrated
1973 November Vol 102, Num 11 Health and Strength
1973 December Vol 102, Num 12 Health and Strength
1974 March Vol 103, Num 3 Health and Strength
1974 May Vol 33, Num 4 IronMan
1974 September Vol 103, Num 9 Health and Strength
1975 Vol 104, Num 1 Health and Strength
1975 Vol 104, Num 2 Health and Strength
1975 March Vol 12, Num 2 Muscular Development
1975 May Num 48 Muscle Training Illustrated
1980 February Vol 109, Num 2 Health and Strength
1980 July Vol 41, Num 7 Muscle and Fitness
1980 September Vol 39, Num 6 IronMan
1980 October Vol 2, Num 7 Muscle Up
1981 Muscle Mag Annual
1981 January Num 22 Muscle Mag International
1981 August Vol 42, Num 8 Muscle and Fitness
1982 January Num 96 Muscle Training Illustrated
1983 Vol 1, Num 1 Body Building News
1983 January Health and Strength
1983 March Vol 42, Num 3 IronMan
1983 March Vol 7, Num 3 Muscle Digest
1983 March Num 34 Muscle Mag International
1983 April Vol 1, Num 1 Flex
1983 May Num 35 Muscle Mag International
1984 October Num 117 Muscle Training Illustrated
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YEAH,HE WAS COMPLETE SHIT:
So true
Chris Dickerson:
1966
Mr Atlantic Coast - AAU, Overall Winner
Mr Eastern America - AAU, Overall Winner
Junior Mr USA - AAU, Winner
Junior Mr USA - AAU, Most Muscular, 1st
Mr New York City - AAU, Overall Winner
Mr New York Metropolitan - AAU, Overall Winner
Mr New York State - AAU, Overall Winner
Mr North America - AAU, 2nd
1967
Mr America - AAU, 6th
Mr America - AAU, Most Muscular, 4th
Mr California - AAU, Winner
Junior Mr America - AAU, 4th
Junior Mr America - AAU, Most Muscular, 5th
1968
Mr America - AAU, Most Muscular, 3rd
Mr America - AAU, 3rd
Junior Mr America - AAU, 3rd
Mr USA - AAU, Winner
Mr USA - AAU, Most Muscular, 2nd
1969
Mr America - AAU, 2nd
Junior Mr America - AAU, 2nd
1970
Mr America - AAU, Winner
Mr America - AAU, Most Muscular, 1st
Junior Mr America - AAU, Winner
Junior Mr America - AAU, Most Muscular, 1st
Mr Universe - NABBA, Short, 1st
1971
Mr Universe - NABBA, Short, 1st
1973
Pro Mr America - WBBG, Winner
Mr Universe - NABBA, Overall Winner
Mr Universe - NABBA, Short, 1st
1974
Universe - Pro - NABBA, Short, 1st
Universe - Pro - NABBA, Overall Winner
1975
Universe - Pro - PBBA, 2nd
Pro Mr World - WBBG, 2nd
1976
Olympus - WBBG, 4th
Universe - Pro - NABBA, 3rd
Universe - Pro - NABBA, Short, 2nd
1979
Canada Diamond Pro Cup - IFBB, 2nd
Canada Pro Cup - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Vancouver - IFBB, 2nd
Olympia - IFBB, LightWeight, 4th
1980
Canada Pro Cup - IFBB, Winner
Florida Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix California - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Louisiana - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix Miami - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Pennsylvania - IFBB, 2nd
Night of Champions - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, 2nd
Pittsburgh Pro Invitational - IFBB, 2nd
1981
Grand Prix California - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Louisiana - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix New England - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix Washington - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix World Cup - IFBB, 2nd
Night of Champions - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, 2nd
Professional World Cup - IFBB, 2nd
1982
Olympia - IFBB, Winner
1984
Olympia - IFBB, 11th
1990
Arnold Classic - IFBB, 8th
1994
Olympia - Masters - IFBB, 4th
Magazines
1968 July Vol 27, Num 5 IronMan
1969 March Strength and Health
1969 September Vol 28, Num 6 IronMan
1970 January Strength and Health
1970 June Vol 7, Num 6 Muscular Development
1970 July Vol 29, Num 5 IronMan
1970 July Strength and Health
1971 October Vol 100, Num 10 Health and Strength
1971 November Vol 100, Num 11 Health and Strength
1972 May Vol 31, Num 4 IronMan
1972 June Vol 9, Num 6 Muscular Development
1972 September Num 34 Muscle Training Illustrated
1973 November Vol 102, Num 11 Health and Strength
1973 December Vol 102, Num 12 Health and Strength
1974 March Vol 103, Num 3 Health and Strength
1974 May Vol 33, Num 4 IronMan
1974 September Vol 103, Num 9 Health and Strength
1975 Vol 104, Num 1 Health and Strength
1975 Vol 104, Num 2 Health and Strength
1975 March Vol 12, Num 2 Muscular Development
1975 May Num 48 Muscle Training Illustrated
1980 February Vol 109, Num 2 Health and Strength
1980 July Vol 41, Num 7 Muscle and Fitness
1980 September Vol 39, Num 6 IronMan
1980 October Vol 2, Num 7 Muscle Up
1981 Muscle Mag Annual
1981 January Num 22 Muscle Mag International
1981 August Vol 42, Num 8 Muscle and Fitness
1982 January Num 96 Muscle Training Illustrated
1983 Vol 1, Num 1 Body Building News
1983 January Health and Strength
1983 March Vol 42, Num 3 IronMan
1983 March Vol 7, Num 3 Muscle Digest
1983 March Num 34 Muscle Mag International
1983 April Vol 1, Num 1 Flex
1983 May Num 35 Muscle Mag International
1984 October Num 117 Muscle Training Illustrated
Yet he only won the olympia once in 1982 so yeah, he was pretty shit.
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YEAH,HE WAS COMPLETE SHIT:
Chris Dickerson:
1966
Mr Atlantic Coast - AAU, Overall Winner
Mr Eastern America - AAU, Overall Winner
Junior Mr USA - AAU, Winner
Junior Mr USA - AAU, Most Muscular, 1st
Mr New York City - AAU, Overall Winner
Mr New York Metropolitan - AAU, Overall Winner
Mr New York State - AAU, Overall Winner
Mr North America - AAU, 2nd
1967
Mr America - AAU, 6th
Mr America - AAU, Most Muscular, 4th
Mr California - AAU, Winner
Junior Mr America - AAU, 4th
Junior Mr America - AAU, Most Muscular, 5th
1968
Mr America - AAU, Most Muscular, 3rd
Mr America - AAU, 3rd
Junior Mr America - AAU, 3rd
Mr USA - AAU, Winner
Mr USA - AAU, Most Muscular, 2nd
1969
Mr America - AAU, 2nd
Junior Mr America - AAU, 2nd
1970
Mr America - AAU, Winner
Mr America - AAU, Most Muscular, 1st
Junior Mr America - AAU, Winner
Junior Mr America - AAU, Most Muscular, 1st
Mr Universe - NABBA, Short, 1st
1971
Mr Universe - NABBA, Short, 1st
1973
Pro Mr America - WBBG, Winner
Mr Universe - NABBA, Overall Winner
Mr Universe - NABBA, Short, 1st
1974
Universe - Pro - NABBA, Short, 1st
Universe - Pro - NABBA, Overall Winner
1975
Universe - Pro - PBBA, 2nd
Pro Mr World - WBBG, 2nd
1976
Olympus - WBBG, 4th
Universe - Pro - NABBA, 3rd
Universe - Pro - NABBA, Short, 2nd
1979
Canada Diamond Pro Cup - IFBB, 2nd
Canada Pro Cup - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Vancouver - IFBB, 2nd
Olympia - IFBB, LightWeight, 4th
1980
Canada Pro Cup - IFBB, Winner
Florida Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix California - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Louisiana - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix Miami - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Pennsylvania - IFBB, 2nd
Night of Champions - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, 2nd
Pittsburgh Pro Invitational - IFBB, 2nd
1981
Grand Prix California - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Louisiana - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix New England - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix Washington - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix World Cup - IFBB, 2nd
Night of Champions - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, 2nd
Professional World Cup - IFBB, 2nd
1982
Olympia - IFBB, Winner
1984
Olympia - IFBB, 11th
1990
Arnold Classic - IFBB, 8th
1994
Olympia - Masters - IFBB, 4th
Magazines
1968 July Vol 27, Num 5 IronMan
1969 March Strength and Health
1969 September Vol 28, Num 6 IronMan
1970 January Strength and Health
1970 June Vol 7, Num 6 Muscular Development
1970 July Vol 29, Num 5 IronMan
1970 July Strength and Health
1971 October Vol 100, Num 10 Health and Strength
1971 November Vol 100, Num 11 Health and Strength
1972 May Vol 31, Num 4 IronMan
1972 June Vol 9, Num 6 Muscular Development
1972 September Num 34 Muscle Training Illustrated
1973 November Vol 102, Num 11 Health and Strength
1973 December Vol 102, Num 12 Health and Strength
1974 March Vol 103, Num 3 Health and Strength
1974 May Vol 33, Num 4 IronMan
1974 September Vol 103, Num 9 Health and Strength
1975 Vol 104, Num 1 Health and Strength
1975 Vol 104, Num 2 Health and Strength
1975 March Vol 12, Num 2 Muscular Development
1975 May Num 48 Muscle Training Illustrated
1980 February Vol 109, Num 2 Health and Strength
1980 July Vol 41, Num 7 Muscle and Fitness
1980 September Vol 39, Num 6 IronMan
1980 October Vol 2, Num 7 Muscle Up
1981 Muscle Mag Annual
1981 January Num 22 Muscle Mag International
1981 August Vol 42, Num 8 Muscle and Fitness
1982 January Num 96 Muscle Training Illustrated
1983 Vol 1, Num 1 Body Building News
1983 January Health and Strength
1983 March Vol 42, Num 3 IronMan
1983 March Vol 7, Num 3 Muscle Digest
1983 March Num 34 Muscle Mag International
1983 April Vol 1, Num 1 Flex
1983 May Num 35 Muscle Mag International
1984 October Num 117 Muscle Training Illustrated
Whatever bro. How many facebook likes did he get?
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I fear there will never be closure on this topic. Until then, Mentzer will not rest peacefully. Release the footage for Mike!
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Mike and Ray have been keeping a close eye on this thread
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I fear there will never be closure on this topic. Until then, Mentzer will not rest peacefully. Release the footage for Mike!
It has been closed. Arnold won. That's it. But the methzer girlie fans just can't let it go. They argue the point that methzer should've won...but how? He came 5th. 5TH! It wasn't even close between Arnold and methzer. Arnold only had to beat Zane to win and he did that easily. methzer couldn't even beat Zane since he lost to him in the olympia the year before. How was methzer ever going to beat a superior bodybuilder like Arnold when he couldnt even beat Zane? The reality is he couldn't. It just wasn't going to happen.
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Whatever bro. How many facebook likes did he get?
;D
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It has been closed. Arnold won. That's it. But the methzer girlie fans just can't let it go. They argue the point that methzer should've won...but how? He came 5th. 5TH! It wasn't even close between Arnold and methzer. Arnold only had to beat Zane to win and he did that easily. methzer couldn't even beat Zane since he lost to him in the olympia the year before. How was methzer ever going to beat a superior bodybuilder like Arnold when he couldnt even beat Zane? The reality is he couldn't. It just wasn't going to happen.
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It has been closed. Arnold won. That's it. But the methzer girlie fans just can't let it go. They argue the point that methzer should've won...but how? He came 5th. 5TH! It wasn't even close between Arnold and methzer. Arnold only had to beat Zane to win and he did that easily. methzer couldn't even beat Zane since he lost to him in the olympia the year before. How was methzer ever going to beat a superior bodybuilder like Arnold when he couldnt even beat Zane? The reality is he couldn't. It just wasn't going to happen.
I think you’re either trolling or missing the point. Take Mentzer completely out this mess. ( if you can) ;D And the fact that Arnold won and CBS never aired the contest is exactly why there’s controversy surrounding the whole show.
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I think you’re either trolling or missing the point. Take Mentzer completely out this mess. ( if you can) ;D And the fact that Arnold won and CBS never aired the contest is exactly why there’s controversy surrounding the whole show.
There really is no controversy. This ongoing myth really needs to die now. Controversial? Not really, big guys always have the advantage. Dorian over Ray and mostly Cutler over Dexter etc. Arnold was big and developed while the other competitors were tiny compared to him. Bigger is better in the real world.
First up. The story of CBS sports, which was covering the event, had supposedly mentzer pegged as the winner before the contest results were announced. After the contest, they pulled their crew and never aired the coverage and never covered the O again. Well that’s all a lie.
The reality is there was never any statements by CBS about a fix or anything at all. No footage was broadcast because the filming crew had run out of tape. That’s all it was. They never filmed the whole thing as they didn't realise the contest goes on all day. The story about CBS pulling because of a "fix" was conjured up by Coe and mentzer since they were bitter losers and wanted to discredited Arnold. The story is still being kept alive by fans of mentzer’s training philosphy who want to rewrite history, because what else do they have to hang on to? Nothing.
Secondly, mentzer was never a contender. mentzer still would have been in 4th place even if Arnold had never entered. This whole Arnold vs mentzer thing was created years later as mike was never a real threat onstage. He was a footnote and nothing more. Classic case of revisionist history. He became a contender years after the fact when he had a resurgence of popularity from his HIT training system. Back in 1980 he was just a footnote. Now, somehow he was better than Arnold which isn't true. People can’t seperate their need to embellish his brief competitive record because they like HIT. So they make it seem like Arnold and mentzer were rivals, when Arnold barely knew mentzer existed most of the time. Arnold's only rivals were Sergio, Nubret and Ferrigno. mentzer just wasn’t worth noting as competition and no one would remember him if he hadn’t become an author of HIT books later in life.
mentzer couldn’t even beat Zane or Dickerson and they were pretty small. HIT devotees want to deify their idol though so they won’t stop claiming he was the rightful winner despite the evidence. Ludicrous. mike mentzer places lower than he felt and spends the rest of his ‘career’ whining about it.
mentzer came in bad shape. He had a deflated chest, undeveloped back, narrow shoulders, deformed traps, protruding gut, wide hips, fat ass, small arms with no peak along with poor posing. You are not going to win against superior bodybuilders with the look mentzer had in 1980. Very poor.
And another thing about mentzer- his HIT is BS. Did he train like that? Nope. First he says train 4 days a week, then his HIT gets more minimal over the years so he can get some attention. Finally, how often did he advocate training a bodypart- once every 12 days or something? Just a pile of BS to generate money. Nothing more.
As for Arnold not being at his best is he didn’t need to be. He didn’t have to be at his best. Do you know why Arnold risked his legacy to compete one more time? Because it was a WEAK line-up. All the major contenders were gone like Sergio, Ferrigno and Nubret and all Arnold had to do was beat a bunch of B-Listers who were half his size. None of them could be a dominate Mr Olympia they were just keeping the seat warm until a guy like Haney showed up.
Zane beat mentzer at the 79 Olympia but both guys were pretty small, and in 1980 mentzer finished a distant 5th while Zane got 3rd. There were a lot of guys in the contest but they were all B-list or C-list in some cases so stacked doesn’t mean much at all just a lot of filler. Now if an A-list guy like Sergio had of competed Arnold may not of entered. Only Samir had the potential and drive but he finished 15th in 1980. So yeah full but weak line-up at this contest.
The big guys had moved on, and the second tier guys were left or do you really think a small guy like Dickerson could have beat Sergio? Nope. Between the Arnold and Haney years was the rise of the smaller, skinnier Olympians who put more emphasis on conditioning rather than mass.
Anyway Zane was way off, Dickerson was too small and Samir was a long way from achieving his potential so none them posed a significant threat to Arnold which is why he entered and won.
And finally, people tend to believe what other people tell them about the 1980 contest, that is until they get to see the actual evidence for themselves and realise it was really was much ado about nothing. For some people it can be quite a surprise to realise that the judging wasn’t some great scandalous betrayal of everything that was good and holy like mentzer constantly claimed in his articles up until death finally let him get over it. It’s funny how people always say how Arnold’s prestige affected the results, when all this “controversy” is due to mentzer’s constant crying about the result! It was mentzer who had created a hype around himself! He didn’t like Arnold’s training style, so he didn’t like Arnold. mike just could not stop acting like a little child, very bad sport.
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This whole idea that "volume" was Arnold's system, is pretty foolish. I mean "volume" has been every successful bodybuilders style with the few exceptions of Mike and Dorian. Mike was unhinged he had to create a rivalry with Arnold to generate interest in his own b.s.
"Arnold's system" = "Everyone else's system except for mine"
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This whole idea that "volume" was Arnold's system, is pretty foolish. I mean "volume" has been every successful bodybuilders style with the few exceptions of Mike and Dorian. Mike was unhinged he had to create a rivalry with Arnold to generate interest in his own b.s.
"Arnold's system" = "Everyone else's system except for mine"
Very true. Dorian and methzer both used volume to build up before switching to hit type training while at the same time upping the dosages of drugs they were on to compensate for the lack of volume they were doing.
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There really is no controversy. This ongoing myth really needs to die now. Controversial? Not really, big guys always have the advantage. Dorian over Ray and mostly Cutler over Dexter etc. Arnold was big and developed while the other competitors were tiny compared to him. Bigger is better in the real world.
First up. The story of CBS sports, which was covering the event, had supposedly mentzer pegged as the winner before the contest results were announced. After the contest, they pulled their crew and never aired the coverage and never covered the O again. Well that’s all a lie.
The reality is there was never any statements by CBS about a fix or anything at all. No footage was broadcast because the filming crew had run out of tape. That’s all it was. They never filmed the whole thing as they didn't realise the contest goes on all day. The story about CBS pulling because of a "fix" was conjured up by Coe and mentzer since they were bitter losers and wanted to discredited Arnold. The story is still being kept alive by fans of mentzer’s training philosphy who want to rewrite history, because what else do they have to hang on to? Nothing.
Secondly, mentzer was never a contender. mentzer still would have been in 4th place even if Arnold had never entered. This whole Arnold vs mentzer thing was created years later as mike was never a real threat onstage. He was a footnote and nothing more. Classic case of revisionist history. He became a contender years after the fact when he had a resurgence of popularity from his HIT training system. Back in 1980 he was just a footnote. Now, somehow he was better than Arnold which isn't true. People can’t seperate their need to embellish his brief competitive record because they like HIT. So they make it seem like Arnold and mentzer were rivals, when Arnold barely knew mentzer existed most of the time. Arnold's only rivals were Sergio, Nubret and Ferrigno. mentzer just wasn’t worth noting as competition and no one would remember him if he hadn’t become an author of HIT books later in life.
mentzer couldn’t even beat Zane or Dickerson and they were pretty small. HIT devotees want to deify their idol though so they won’t stop claiming he was the rightful winner despite the evidence. Ludicrous. mike mentzer places lower than he felt and spends the rest of his ‘career’ whining about it.
mentzer came in bad shape. He had a deflated chest, undeveloped back, narrow shoulders, deformed traps, protruding gut, wide hips, fat ass, small arms with no peak along with poor posing. You are not going to win against superior bodybuilders with the look mentzer had in 1980. Very poor.
And another thing about mentzer- his HIT is BS. Did he train like that? Nope. First he says train 4 days a week, then his HIT gets more minimal over the years so he can get some attention. Finally, how often did he advocate training a bodypart- once every 12 days or something? Just a pile of BS to generate money. Nothing more.
As for Arnold not being at his best is he didn’t need to be. He didn’t have to be at his best. Do you know why Arnold risked his legacy to compete one more time? Because it was a WEAK line-up. All the major contenders were gone like Sergio, Ferrigno and Nubret and all Arnold had to do was beat a bunch of B-Listers who were half his size. None of them could be a dominate Mr Olympia they were just keeping the seat warm until a guy like Haney showed up.
Zane beat mentzer at the 79 Olympia but both guys were pretty small, and in 1980 mentzer finished a distant 5th while Zane got 3rd. There were a lot of guys in the contest but they were all B-list or C-list in some cases so stacked doesn’t mean much at all just a lot of filler. Now if an A-list guy like Sergio had of competed Arnold may not of entered. Only Samir had the potential and drive but he finished 15th in 1980. So yeah full but weak line-up at this contest.
The big guys had moved on, and the second tier guys were left or do you really think a small guy like Dickerson could have beat Sergio? Nope. Between the Arnold and Haney years was the rise of the smaller, skinnier Olympians who put more emphasis on conditioning rather than mass.
Anyway Zane was way off, Dickerson was too small and Samir was a long way from achieving his potential so none them posed a significant threat to Arnold which is why he entered and won.
And finally, people tend to believe what other people tell them about the 1980 contest, that is until they get to see the actual evidence for themselves and realise it was really was much ado about nothing. For some people it can be quite a surprise to realise that the judging wasn’t some great scandalous betrayal of everything that was good and holy like mentzer constantly claimed in his articles up until death finally let him get over it. It’s funny how people always say how Arnold’s prestige affected the results, when all this “controversy” is due to mentzer’s constant crying about the result! It was mentzer who had created a hype around himself! He didn’t like Arnold’s training style, so he didn’t like Arnold. mike just could not stop acting like a little child, very bad sport.
Great write up.
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Great write up.
Still responding to your own bullshit accounts?
Lonely INCEL
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Yea this is spot on.
There really is no controversy. This ongoing myth really needs to die now. Controversial? Not really, big guys always have the advantage. Dorian over Ray and mostly Cutler over Dexter etc. Arnold was big and developed while the other competitors were tiny compared to him. Bigger is better in the real world.
First up. The story of CBS sports, which was covering the event, had supposedly mentzer pegged as the winner before the contest results were announced. After the contest, they pulled their crew and never aired the coverage and never covered the O again. Well that’s all a lie.
The reality is there was never any statements by CBS about a fix or anything at all. No footage was broadcast because the filming crew had run out of tape. That’s all it was. They never filmed the whole thing as they didn't realise the contest goes on all day. The story about CBS pulling because of a "fix" was conjured up by Coe and mentzer since they were bitter losers and wanted to discredited Arnold. The story is still being kept alive by fans of mentzer’s training philosphy who want to rewrite history, because what else do they have to hang on to? Nothing.
Secondly, mentzer was never a contender. mentzer still would have been in 4th place even if Arnold had never entered. This whole Arnold vs mentzer thing was created years later as mike was never a real threat onstage. He was a footnote and nothing more. Classic case of revisionist history. He became a contender years after the fact when he had a resurgence of popularity from his HIT training system. Back in 1980 he was just a footnote. Now, somehow he was better than Arnold which isn't true. People can’t seperate their need to embellish his brief competitive record because they like HIT. So they make it seem like Arnold and mentzer were rivals, when Arnold barely knew mentzer existed most of the time. Arnold's only rivals were Sergio, Nubret and Ferrigno. mentzer just wasn’t worth noting as competition and no one would remember him if he hadn’t become an author of HIT books later in life.
mentzer couldn’t even beat Zane or Dickerson and they were pretty small. HIT devotees want to deify their idol though so they won’t stop claiming he was the rightful winner despite the evidence. Ludicrous. mike mentzer places lower than he felt and spends the rest of his ‘career’ whining about it.
mentzer came in bad shape. He had a deflated chest, undeveloped back, narrow shoulders, deformed traps, protruding gut, wide hips, fat ass, small arms with no peak along with poor posing. You are not going to win against superior bodybuilders with the look mentzer had in 1980. Very poor.
And another thing about mentzer- his HIT is BS. Did he train like that? Nope. First he says train 4 days a week, then his HIT gets more minimal over the years so he can get some attention. Finally, how often did he advocate training a bodypart- once every 12 days or something? Just a pile of BS to generate money. Nothing more.
As for Arnold not being at his best is he didn’t need to be. He didn’t have to be at his best. Do you know why Arnold risked his legacy to compete one more time? Because it was a WEAK line-up. All the major contenders were gone like Sergio, Ferrigno and Nubret and all Arnold had to do was beat a bunch of B-Listers who were half his size. None of them could be a dominate Mr Olympia they were just keeping the seat warm until a guy like Haney showed up.
Zane beat mentzer at the 79 Olympia but both guys were pretty small, and in 1980 mentzer finished a distant 5th while Zane got 3rd. There were a lot of guys in the contest but they were all B-list or C-list in some cases so stacked doesn’t mean much at all just a lot of filler. Now if an A-list guy like Sergio had of competed Arnold may not of entered. Only Samir had the potential and drive but he finished 15th in 1980. So yeah full but weak line-up at this contest.
The big guys had moved on, and the second tier guys were left or do you really think a small guy like Dickerson could have beat Sergio? Nope. Between the Arnold and Haney years was the rise of the smaller, skinnier Olympians who put more emphasis on conditioning rather than mass.
Anyway Zane was way off, Dickerson was too small and Samir was a long way from achieving his potential so none them posed a significant threat to Arnold which is why he entered and won.
And finally, people tend to believe what other people tell them about the 1980 contest, that is until they get to see the actual evidence for themselves and realise it was really was much ado about nothing. For some people it can be quite a surprise to realise that the judging wasn’t some great scandalous betrayal of everything that was good and holy like mentzer constantly claimed in his articles up until death finally let him get over it. It’s funny how people always say how Arnold’s prestige affected the results, when all this “controversy” is due to mentzer’s constant crying about the result! It was mentzer who had created a hype around himself! He didn’t like Arnold’s training style, so he didn’t like Arnold. mike just could not stop acting like a little child, very bad sport.
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Still responding to my own bullshit accounts.
I'm a Lonely INCEL
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Someone said Mike should've won .
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Intensity
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Yea this is spot on.
Not really. He still has Mentzer up his ass.
Assuming adamantly there’s only controversy if you think Mentzer (again Mentzer) should have won.
Only Platz and Columbu felt Arnold should have won. That’s freaking controversial if you ask me , And lately Platz seems to be changing his mind.
Oh well , too bad CBS ran out of tape at the “ hottest moment “ of the damn contest.
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There really is no controversy. This ongoing myth really needs to die now. Controversial? Not really, big guys always have the advantage. Dorian over Ray and mostly Cutler over Dexter etc. Arnold was big and developed while the other competitors were tiny compared to him. Bigger is better in the real world.
First up. The story of CBS sports, which was covering the event, had supposedly mentzer pegged as the winner before the contest results were announced. After the contest, they pulled their crew and never aired the coverage and never covered the O again. Well that’s all a lie.
The reality is there was never any statements by CBS about a fix or anything at all. No footage was broadcast because the filming crew had run out of tape. That’s all it was. They never filmed the whole thing as they didn't realise the contest goes on all day. The story about CBS pulling because of a "fix" was conjured up by Coe and mentzer since they were bitter losers and wanted to discredited Arnold. The story is still being kept alive by fans of mentzer’s training philosphy who want to rewrite history, because what else do they have to hang on to? Nothing.
Secondly, mentzer was never a contender. mentzer still would have been in 4th place even if Arnold had never entered. This whole Arnold vs mentzer thing was created years later as mike was never a real threat onstage. He was a footnote and nothing more. Classic case of revisionist history. He became a contender years after the fact when he had a resurgence of popularity from his HIT training system. Back in 1980 he was just a footnote. Now, somehow he was better than Arnold which isn't true. People can’t seperate their need to embellish his brief competitive record because they like HIT. So they make it seem like Arnold and mentzer were rivals, when Arnold barely knew mentzer existed most of the time. Arnold's only rivals were Sergio, Nubret and Ferrigno. mentzer just wasn’t worth noting as competition and no one would remember him if he hadn’t become an author of HIT books later in life.
mentzer couldn’t even beat Zane or Dickerson and they were pretty small. HIT devotees want to deify their idol though so they won’t stop claiming he was the rightful winner despite the evidence. Ludicrous. mike mentzer places lower than he felt and spends the rest of his ‘career’ whining about it.
mentzer came in bad shape. He had a deflated chest, undeveloped back, narrow shoulders, deformed traps, protruding gut, wide hips, fat ass, small arms with no peak along with poor posing. You are not going to win against superior bodybuilders with the look mentzer had in 1980. Very poor.
And another thing about mentzer- his HIT is BS. Did he train like that? Nope. First he says train 4 days a week, then his HIT gets more minimal over the years so he can get some attention. Finally, how often did he advocate training a bodypart- once every 12 days or something? Just a pile of BS to generate money. Nothing more.
As for Arnold not being at his best is he didn’t need to be. He didn’t have to be at his best. Do you know why Arnold risked his legacy to compete one more time? Because it was a WEAK line-up. All the major contenders were gone like Sergio, Ferrigno and Nubret and all Arnold had to do was beat a bunch of B-Listers who were half his size. None of them could be a dominate Mr Olympia they were just keeping the seat warm until a guy like Haney showed up.
Zane beat mentzer at the 79 Olympia but both guys were pretty small, and in 1980 mentzer finished a distant 5th while Zane got 3rd. There were a lot of guys in the contest but they were all B-list or C-list in some cases so stacked doesn’t mean much at all just a lot of filler. Now if an A-list guy like Sergio had of competed Arnold may not of entered. Only Samir had the potential and drive but he finished 15th in 1980. So yeah full but weak line-up at this contest.
The big guys had moved on, and the second tier guys were left or do you really think a small guy like Dickerson could have beat Sergio? Nope. Between the Arnold and Haney years was the rise of the smaller, skinnier Olympians who put more emphasis on conditioning rather than mass.
Anyway Zane was way off, Dickerson was too small and Samir was a long way from achieving his potential so none them posed a significant threat to Arnold which is why he entered and won.
And finally, people tend to believe what other people tell them about the 1980 contest, that is until they get to see the actual evidence for themselves and realise it was really was much ado about nothing. For some people it can be quite a surprise to realise that the judging wasn’t some great scandalous betrayal of everything that was good and holy like mentzer constantly claimed in his articles up until death finally let him get over it. It’s funny how people always say how Arnold’s prestige affected the results, when all this “controversy” is due to mentzer’s constant crying about the result! It was mentzer who had created a hype around himself! He didn’t like Arnold’s training style, so he didn’t like Arnold. mike just could not stop acting like a little child, very bad sport.
Hey dickless anyone who would call the 1980 Mr. Olympia liineup a bunch of B-Listers has no clue at all about bodybuilding.
Every single contestant was/is a legend,both then and now.
YOU DUMB FUCK.
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I was told by inside sources that “Schwarzenegger's win was politicle and everyone knows it.”
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Hey dickless anyone who would call the 1980 Mr. Olympia liineup a bunch of B-Listers has no clue at all about bodybuilding.
Every single contestant was/is a legend,both then and now.
YOU DUMB FUCK.
He must think he has a better physique than all of them.
I wonder what BB competitions he's won , is he a pro bodybuilder &
Olympia winner as he disparage's all those competing.
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He won and its obvious in all the pics and vids, they don't lie and the cbs footage would just add to the evidence he still better than all the others if not at his best.
Not really. He still has Mentzer up his ass.
Assuming adamantly there’s only controversy if you think Mentzer (again Mentzer) should have won.
Only Platz and Columbu felt Arnold should have won. That’s freaking controversial if you ask me , And lately Platz seems to be changing his mind.
Oh well , too bad CBS ran out of tape at the “ hottest moment “ of the damn contest.
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Still responding to your own bullshit accounts?
Lonely INCEL
You are a retard.
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He must think he has a better physique than all of them.
I wonder what BB competitions he's won , is he a pro bodybuilder &
Olympia winner as he disparage's all those competing.
According to my uncalculated calculations,I`d figure that he`s won exactly .......NOTHING!! ;D
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You are a retard.
You don’t even have a personality
Just a bunch of lonely accounts... zero personality
A fucking ROBOT
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Arnold didnt look like Arnold and that is the biggest issue. people compare him in 1980 to his previous self. He was smaller. But still better than everyone else but just not as dominating in every pose etc. NOW methead mike actually believed his own hype. He even wrote an article saying how only him and zane have poise and polish etc and how he is going to win. Smh. PLUS the one little gay writer for weider really hugged mikes nuts I think his name was jack neally or something. He was a schmoe who worshipped Mike! He started the bs by saying how Mike was robbed ,Arnold cheated ,people booed Arnold, how Ray was walking around ready to throw a punch, how zane smashed his trophy etc. The guy was nuts. So that is really how it all started. Yes Meth was mad but everyone is at that level when they lose ESPECIALLY if they think they were going to beat Arnold because he didnt look like Arnold. And then Mike said how someone really wanted him gone to put him so far down the list as 5th. Hell there were people better than him that got even lower! He even said this about himself "bodybuilding just lost its BEST spokesman" because he will never put his body thru this again! Best spokesman? See how he thought of himself. The guy was crazy. Period!
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You don’t even have a personality
Just a bunch of lonely accounts... zero personality
A fucking ROBOT
Says a guy who has dutifully scanned and posted thousands of Bodybuilding pictures , daily, for years on end with nothing other than a smiley face as commentary.
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Hey dickless anyone who would call the 1980 Mr. Olympia liineup a bunch of B-Listers has no clue at all about bodybuilding.
Every single contestant was/is a legend,both then and now.
YOU DUMB FUCK.
Little angry guy. Read what I had stated again. They were B listers and c listers dueto the fact none of them dominated the olympia. They were just keeping the seat warm for the big boys of the 80's.
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He knows he has a better physique than me.
I do wonder what BB competitions i have won? Am I a pro bodybuilder &
Olympia winner as I disparage's all those competing?
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Great pic,,mentzers legs look sick there..zane looks smallish but good nevertheless..
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Says a guy who has dutifully scanned and posted thousands of Bodybuilding pictures , daily, for years on end with nothing other than a smiley face as commentary.
I posted pics that are on Google you dummy
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Says a guy who has dutifully scanned and posted thousands of Bodybuilding pictures , daily, for years on end with nothing other than a smiley face as commentary.
That's me ;D
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I posted pics that are on Google you dummy
LOL...
"IM not a loser who spends decades of his life scanning bodybuilding pictures and posting them with a smiley face. I'm a loser who spends decades of his life googling bodybuilding pictures and posting them with a smiley face. Ha! Jokes on you Beakdoctor!"
Sounds like a hell of a life.
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LOL...
"IM not a loser who spends decades of his life scanning bodybuilding pictures and posting them with a smiley face. I'm a loser who spends decades of his life googling bodybuilding pictures and posting them with a smiley face. Ha! Jokes on you Beakdoctor!"
Sounds like a hell of a life.
Phaggit, you sob like a bitch on a bodybuilding website
Mentzer will always be more successful than you. Period.
You have 20 gimmick accounts. WOW
Mentzer has bodybuilding titles and he is world renowned.
Your rants are a testament to your wasted life
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Dickerson smoking the entire competition in that shot.
Interesting.
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Dickerson smoking the entire competition in that shot.
Interesting.
Dickerson had an excellent side triceps
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Phaggit, you sob like a bitch on a bodybuilding website
Mentzer will always be more successful than you. Period.
You have 20 gimmick accounts. WOW
Mentzer has bodybuilding titles and he is world renowned.
Your rants are a testament to your wasted life
Ha! Believe what you want. Fool. LOL. Erase my pics from your spank bank creep.
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Arnold smoking the entire competition in that shot.
Interesting.
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Dickerson smoking the entire competition in that shot.
Interesting.
Roger Walker was hugely underrated.
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Roger Walker was hugely underrated.
He was crowd favorite ..... but he is Australian while the contest being held in Australia so that was controversial in itself.
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Oct 4th 1980
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Mentzer looked great in that contest but he didn't come in second, third or fourth. He came in fifth. Hard to argue he deserved to win. I know there is a lot of hate for Dickerson for being gay. He had a sick long career of competing but during the late 70's and early 80's few could beat him when he was on. 1980 he deserved second and I could hear an argument for first. He had a density others didn't have. Arnold in some pictures looks lacking but watching the videos he's clearly better than the field even being at 80% of his former self. Doesn't matter what we say. He won and it's over.
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Little angry guy. Read what I had stated again. They were B listers and c listers dueto the fact none of them dominated the olympia. They were just keeping the seat warm for the big boys of the 80's.
I`d be a nice guy and offer you a BBC sammich but I know you don`t eat bread.
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I`d be a nice guy and offer you a BBC sammich but I know you don`t eat bread.
Wes, you're not the only one he is attacking. He's cross the line and is resorting to insulting people here. He's giving me digs too calling me lazy. Very weak attempt at insults. When you respond to his insults he says you are triggered. Just a weak comeback and very lazy one at that.
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Wes, you're not the only one he is attacking. He's cross the line and is resorting to insulting people here. He's giving me digs too calling me lazy. Very weak attempt at insults. When you respond to his insults he says you are triggered. Just a weak comeback and very lazy one at that.
Him and a few other new guys should just simply be banned.
I`m all for free speech and I`m glad that`s how Ron runs the board but these few dickheads contribute nothing of any value at all to the board.
We all joke on here,but these clowns are literally the jokes themselves.
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Boyer Coe - Why the 1980 Mr. Olympia was not on TV.
BuMp
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHhh
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Him and a few other new guys should just simply be banned.
I`m all for free speech and I`m glad that`s how Ron runs the board but these few dickheads contribute nothing of any value at all to the board.
We all joke on here,but these clowns are literally the jokes themselves.
Hey Wes,
Yeah RMJ is a dickhead and his replies are so infantile, he sounds virtually retarded.
Royalty has been saying me, Abe G, and a few other guys are all the same gimmick account responsible for RMJ. Which is an absurd accusation. I hope you guys realize that. I wouldn't sit here and talk shit to guys like you or oldtimer or any of the other solid posters here.
RMJ's IQ is hovering somewhere around imbecile level. Anybody who's ever read my posts would know I have nothing to do with that jackass.
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I`d be a gay guy and offer you a BBC sammich but I know you don`t eat bread.
Yours is too small and soft.
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Wes, you arent the only one he is stating facts on. I've crossed the line and have resorted to making things up. Ive been called me lazy and that hurts. I'm very weak by letting people get to me with their insults. When I respond to insults (actually statement of facts) i get told I am triggered which is true ot else I wouldn't post this lying comment. I have a very a weak comeback so I have to make stuff up to feel better about my old, lazy self.
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Hey Wes,
Yeah beackdoctor is a dickhead and his replies are so infantile, he sounds virtually retarded.
Royalty has been saying me, Abe G, and a few other guys are all the same amazing account responsible for RMJ. Which is an great accusation. I hope you guys realise that. I would sit here and talk shit to guys like you and oldfarttimer or any of the other retarded posters here.
My IQ is hovering somewhere around imbecile level. Anybody who's ever read my posts would know that I am a right jackass.
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Me and a few other old guys should just simply be banned.
I`m all for free speech and I`m glad that`s how Ron runs the board but me and the old dickheads contribute nothing of any value at all to the board.
We all are jokes on here, but us clowns are literally the jokes themselves.
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- Ken Waller (Last place finisher 1980 Mr.O)
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Blow me homo. Next time you change my words you will have to try harder. No body likes you here or your posts.
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Hey Wes,
Yeah RMJ is a dickhead and his replies are so infantile, he sounds virtually retarded.
Royalty has been saying me, Abe G, and a few other guys are all the same gimmick account responsible for RMJ. Which is an absurd accusation. I hope you guys realize that. I wouldn't sit here and talk shit to guys like you or oldtimer or any of the other solid posters here.
RMJ's IQ is hovering somewhere around imbecile level. Anybody who's ever read my posts would know I have nothing to do with that jackass.
Dude of course I realize that you are you.
"RMjizz" and "Educated Asshole" should just be banned......two shitty trolling gimmicks.
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I love to blow homo's. Next time when I get triggered and throw a tantrum I will have to try harder. Nobody likes me here or my posts. I always end up getting triggered.
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Little dude of course I realise that you are you.
"RMJ11" should just be awarded for having a great fact spewing account who show us up every time.
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Poor little Mike, Arnold literally destroying him.
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Alpha male. Vs. Beta male.
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The Aussie, the Oak and Dennys are winning the relaxed shot there.
What a historic Olympia to be (witness) in the crowd.
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In the July 1981 m&F mag Mike wrote a feature on Tim Belknap and he wrote that Tim was ripped at 215 at 5 feet 4. He stated that 215 was his best weight at 5 feet 9. His later claims of 225 are obviously bull*hit as the 229 Arnold looks considerably bigger then the tint tit.
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the most dense bodybuilder in fall 1980.
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Chris D.
the most dense bodybuilder in fall 1980.
He gets way too much shit. I don't think he was as good as his record indicates. He's got dozens of victories and the Olympia. And I think Casey should've won 82. But he's not as bad as people make him out to be. He had weak biceps and a couple of muscle tears but he was complete and dense. He was also probably one of those guys who looked more impressive in person hence his impact on the judges.
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He gets way too much shit. I don't think he was as good as his record indicates. He's got dozens of victories and the Olympia. And I think Casey should've won 82. But he's not as bad as people make him out to be. He had weak biceps and a couple of muscle tears but he was complete and dense. He was also probably one of those guys who looked more impressive in person hence his impact on the judges.
I agree he's underrated if anything
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Yours is too small and soft.
Good point. You're more of a size queen.
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Good point. I'm more of a size queen.
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Yeah, we know, you dumb shit.
You're no daisy.
You're no genius.
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Can this be made/reenactment with AI ? It’d be so cool.
Unless the CBS unreleased footage has the whole confrontation on film.
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Yeah, we know, I'm a dumb shit.
You're no daisy.
I'm no genius.
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Mike said that everyone was surprised when he raised his voice, that Arnold sat down.
Arnold sat down and his legs crossed... and avoided making eye contact.
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Game over.
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Arnold said he was never going to get in a fight with mentzer, he was there to win a competition thats all. And what would they really be fighting over, mentzer couldn't handle arnolds words, sticks and stones!
Mike said that everyone was surprised when he raised his voice, that Arnold sat down.
Arnold sat down and his legs crossed... and avoided making eye contact.
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Did anyone ever have better calves than Arnold?
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Arnold said he was never going to get in a fight with mentzer, he was there to win a competition thats all. And what would they really be fighting over, mentzer couldn't handle arnolds words, sticks and stones!
Great point. Mentzer made Arnold sit down. Congratulations. Arnold made Mike melt down and never recover.
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Mentzer was minding his own business and Arnold started insulting him. Mike had the right to stand up for himself.
I bet that Ferrigno and Columbu both secretly enjoyed that event. Arnold was disrespectful towards both of them in Pumping Iron.
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Found a few more photos that I took in 1980. Here is a comparison that shows the top guys standing relaxed. An argument can be made that Mike looks the best here. We have to remember that the judges were selected by Ben Weider and Paul Graham and there were problems with the judging process and the qualifications of some of the judges.
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Found a few more photos that I took in 1980. Here is a comparison that shows the top guys standing relaxed. An argument can be made that Mike ANYONE looks the best here. We have to remember that the judges were selected by Ben Weider and Paul Graham and there were problems with the judging process and the qualifications of some of the judges.
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Found a few more photos that I took in 1980. Here is a comparison that shows the top guys standing relaxed. An argument can be made that Mike looks the best here. We have to remember that the judges were selected by Ben Weider and Paul Graham and there were problems with the judging process and the qualifications of some of the judges.
Mike looks the worst out of those 5 in that pic
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Mike looks the worst out of those 5 in that pic
Mike needed to carb up more, that’s for sure
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Mike needed to carb up more, that’s for sure
Chest flat as a pancake & washed out abs.
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Here is a Mike Mentzer photo for the haters. When I look back on the contests in the 70s and 80s I prefer the larger muscled guys like Robby and Mike over Frank Zane.
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For sure, arnolds detail is stomping mike from top to bottom, plus his abs are deep and he still has more thickness.
Mike looks the worst out of those 5 in that pic
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Nice crisp pictures Vince
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Nice crisp pictures Vince
Thanks. I spent hours editing these photos. I am somewhat of a perfectionist when it comes to photography.
I was silly to sell my 1980 negatives and slides. Long story. Otherwise I would have had hundreds more photos to share here.
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When all is said and done I believe I took the best photo at the 1980 Mr Olympia contest. Years ago I remember reading the advice
from John Grimek who recommended taking photos from back in the audience at waist level to the competitors. There was a Mr Universe
contest at the Opera House in 1979 I believe. I figured out which row to set up my tripod and when it came to the contest we bought up
all the seats in the middle of the Opera House...200! Being a fair minded guy I invited John Balik to sit beside me at the night show. It
required one of my gym members to vacate his seat and take John's seat down at the front. He jumped at the opportunity. I had a contest
with Robert Nailon about who would take the best photos that year. He decided to use his 35mm camera on stage and back stage. Not a wise
decision as far as I am concerned. I took 360 B&W photos at the judging and then took colour slides at the evening show. Would you believe
the film in my camera jammed just before the finals that night. I still curse that time. I had a friend sitting in the row in front of me taking
a movie of the finals. I should have taken the film camera and put it on my tripod. Nope, I let him continue and he got so excited when Roger
Walker was in the posedown that he stamped his feet and cheered and spoiled the film. I do have the sound from the presentations and recorded
the long and loud booing when Arnold was announced as the winner.
I asked Robert what photos to send to each magazine and he told me to send them all. Silly me did exactly that and MuscleMag wouldn't publish
or pay for any photos because IronMan had the same photos. Joe Weider told me what to do but I didn't listen. I should have sent them contact
sheets and let them select what photos they wanted. I was so disgusted I sold all my negatives and slides to Robert Nailon for $1000. I had an
agreement with him, in writing, that I could make any copies of those photos or slides but I lost that agreement and Robert changed his mind
about what we agreed. I might get lucky and work out something with Robert. He was going to publish a book about the 1980 Mr Olympia but
so far nothing has been seen. It probably costs too much and who is going to buy them?
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CHRIS DICKERSON biggest calves ever...
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I had an agreement with him, in writing, that I could make any copies of those photos or slides but I lost that agreement and Robert changed his mind
about what we agreed. I might get lucky and work out something with Robert. He was going to publish a book about the 1980 Mr Olympia but
so far nothing has been seen. It probably costs too much and who is going to buy them?
Yeah worth reaching out to him and maybe show him the pics you've touched up. Then tell him all you want to do is work on touching up the pictures and if he ever does his book you'd let him use the touched up pics. That way there's something in it for him too.
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Yeah worth reaching out to him and maybe show him the pics you've touched up. Then tell him all you want to do is work on touching up the pictures and if he ever does his book you'd let him use the touched up pics. That way there's something in it for him too.
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They didn't look bigger in the 80 Olympia. Arnold's looked huge in every photo.
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Arnold looks absolutely majestic there. No homo.
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Probably the best Boyer ever looked for an IFBB show.
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That's not a bad picture. I thought these were taken the following day or two after the show. I always thought he looked tighter and not as flat, a little fuller, in these pics than he did on the night of the show.
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Muscle Digest: What do you think about your victory at Mr. Olympia 80?
Arnold Schwarzenegger: I'm very happy about this victory. First: this was my seventh victory in these competitions. The victory raised the number of my records, as well as this victory over many new bodybuilders who have appeared over the past five years. I didn't speak out against them before. It was a great feeling - I beat all the new athletes. However, I must say that I was not in peak shape at these competitions, compared to, for example, 1975. My friends told me this, and I myself saw it in photographs. But this was enough to defeat these guys and win the competition. The victory was very difficult, because... The competitors were in excellent shape, which made these competitions very rough, which was more so than in my other starts.
Muscle Digest: How much percentage do you rate your terrain compared to the best terrain?
Arnold: I think it's somewhere around 90%.
Muscle Digest: Which bands were lagging behind?
Arnold: In my opinion, the overall definition was not perfect. I also haven’t been on stage for 5 years, this was my first meeting with the audience. I was surprised that during the compulsory program I had to perform to music. This victory was very difficult for me.
Muscle Digest: You've said in the past that you're tired. What made you change this statement, and at what point did this happen? Do we understand that the decision was not made until the last minute?
Arnold: That's right, I started training after a vacation in Europe at the end of July, beginning of August. We had a meeting with the directors of the film "Conan" - they decided to shoot the film in London and Spain in October. Conan was very healthy and well built, and also muscular. The director of the film asked if I could make the weight 220 pounds (105 kg) for filming in October, although he had previously asked me to weigh 215 pounds (97.5 kg). I agreed. However, I have to be as lean as possible at this weight. He said that you don’t need the same type of terrain as in competitions, you need to look muscular and big, because... During filming, the weight will change. In October, the director wanted me to weigh 230 or 240 pounds. I trained very hard - once a day, then twice, more and more intensely and harder, and when there was little time left before the competition, Vader and Franco (approx. we are talking about Franco Colombo) told me: “Why don’t I perform at “Mr. Olympia" and don't change "Mr. Olympia"?"
Muscle Digest: Who said that? Franco and who else?
Arnold: And Vader, Joe Weider. They said why don't I try to change the results of Mr. Olympia. This happened 3 weeks before the competition. I still refused, I really didn't want to perform. I'm tired. I'm risking too much. But one day I felt the desire to try - you know, it didn’t even happen consciously.
Muscle Digest: Were you planning to perform a demonstration program?
Arnold: No, I had to judge the competition.
Muscle Digest: When did you make your final decision?
Arnold: 2 or 3 weeks before the competition.
Muscle Digest: You didn't tell anyone about this?
Arnold: No one, because. I didn't know if I could stand it all. I could not do as Paul Graham advised - sign up for the starting list; I was not confident in myself. I've been working really hard, in the last two weeks I've had a lot of injuries due to overtraining and I've had to have cortisone injections for my shoulders. Cortisone retains water in the body. My ankles were swollen, but Franco said that was a side effect from the cortisone. I said that I would pose all day to improve the terrain and remove the water. I spent Friday posing and getting more and more ripped. After all this, I asked Ben Weider to tell Bill Pearl that I was participating in the competition.
Muscle Digest: When did you do this?
Arnold: Friday evening, the day before the competition.
Muscle Digest: Was this decision a tactical move? Were they surprised to hear this?
Arnold: I don’t know how others reacted, because... I lived in another hotel. Dennis Tinerino and others lived in the same hotel. The rest lived on the Sydney coast. Apart from Tinerino, I didn’t communicate with anyone else. I did not meet anyone until I arrived at the Opera House on Saturday at noon. There I saw Christina and Frank Zain. We shook hands, they laughed and joked: go back to the hall or something like that. Christina: "We wish you success, because today you really need it." I replied: “Yes, you are right.” After that, we had a meeting on weight categories, one or two weight categories, and also about refereeing - whether it is necessary to change judges. Finally, Bill Pearl was eliminated as a judge, Chris Dickerson was eliminated, and Bill Drake was eliminated because of me. But I really didn’t know the reaction of my opponents. I felt a certain coldness in my approach, but this always happens before a competition.
Muscle Digest: We want to ask a few specific questions that many people have been wondering: the names of the authors are not important. On the one hand, we heard that you were the best that night, despite shortcomings in muscle definition - and that the fight was very stubborn, victory was not clear until the last minute?
Arnold: I have to say that it was. It was a difficult battle. I didn't know anything about musical accompaniment until someone told me about it and it threw me off balance. I think some guys posed better than me.
Muscle Digest: Did no one warn you about the need for musical accompaniment?
Arnold: No, however, they had a recording of "Ixodes", which was the music I performed to in 1975, so I chose that again.
Muscle Digest: The second thing we heard was that when the mandatory posing began, you did everything your own way, and not the way the judges required. Still, judging by the protocols, you received the most points for the compulsory program.
Arnold: That's a lie. Looking at the judges' reports, you will see that judge Julien Rlommaert reduced the score for my behavior on stage. He gave me 18 points because... I, in his opinion, did not follow the judges’ commands, did not do the poses that they asked. However, we can not talk about Arnold's new behavior, but about the old behavior to which I always remained faithful: first I did the pose that the judges required, and then my own. This is how I spoke against S. Oliva in 1970. After all, when you know that you are not very good in this pose, then you try to make the judges forget about your shortcoming by doing the second pose. If the judges ask to show the abdominals, I will do this pose, but not more than 3 seconds and after that I will do the “most muscular” pose. The judges have the option to ignore my second pose or accept it. And I did it, but it was not new, strange behavior. The rules had changed a bit and I was waiting for someone to warn me.
Part 2
Muscle Digest: People said that you made posing a joke, that your performance took precedence over sports performance and that you made entertainment out of the show?
Arnold Schwarzenegger: I can't agree with that. On stage I am a personality. I'm especially happy when I go on stage. Sometimes I do everything with humor, but this is not a new behavior. -In South Africa, while posing with Franco, there were a lot of jokes. We laughed and talked. We pushed each other and joked around, but it was a serious rivalry, and Franco wanted to take the title from me. It's the same with Sergio. The kids these days are very serious, but I don't blame them for that. Probably now there are different times, new things that I don’t understand and which seem very serious to them. However, I will always remain true to my behavior. If I want to joke on stage, I will do it, but not out of disrespect for the sport. Quite the contrary, I did a lot for sports.
Muscle Digest: Some have said that another Mr. Olympia win will help keep you a movie star and promote a new role as Conan. Does this have any basis?
Arnold: The Mr. Olympia competition has nothing to do with Conan. They add nothing and take nothing away from the picture. I don't need advertising to win. After all, I have won so many times, and this victory no longer solves anything. I didn’t want international publicity, I didn’t want to be talked about as a reborn bodybuilding star, because... I devoted a lot of time to the goal of becoming an actor. There were no plans for advertising. After all, the star "Conan" - 5 times "Mr. Universe" and 6 times "Mr. Olympia" sounds just as good as 5 times "Mr. Universe" and 7 times "Mr. Olympia" . No difference. Universal invested 10-15 million in the film, so we got enough from it. I didn't need the Mr. Olympia competition for the film to be successful.
Muscle Digest: How much did you weigh on the day of the show?
Arnold: 225-230 lbs.
Muscle Digest: Some people claimed that the judges at the competition were your friends?
Arnold: No one could say that. When you devoted 18 years to bodybuilding, when you organized world championships for five years, when you are involved in the politics of bodybuilding, then you are friends with everyone and every judge. We live in a certain world, but if the judges at competitions choose you, it is for a completely different reason. I already said that my best friends were not for me. For example, Dan Howard, one of the judges and my ski partner, put me in third place, and my old friend from Belgium Blommert put me in sixth or seventh. It was with him that I had the most friendly relations. Frank Zane spoke bitterly about the competition after losing to Franco in 1976. The competition and judging were really not up to par. Franco said the opposite - the competition was wonderful, because he won! The next year, when Frank Zane won, the same people judged and everything was the same as the year before, he told me: “Thank you, Arnold, it was the most wonderful attempt of my life. The judging was wonderful, everything was great, I really I want to thank you." And in the next two years he told me the same thing. And Robbie Robinson and Bowyer Coe were disappointed with the refereeing. I think that after every competition the picture is the same, the winner always says that everything was wonderful, and the rest - that it was unfair. I'm the kind of person, if I lose, I was either fat or this guy is better. I remember how Zane "beat" me in 1968. He was better than me. He had better relief, that was obvious. He proved that volume doesn't always win. When Sergio beat me in 1969, it was clear that he was better, I agreed with it and was happy.
Muscle Digest: Some participants said that this was wrong, they trained for a whole year, and Arnold came, who had not competed for 5 years, trained for 2-3 months and won. What do you think about it?
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Arnold: There can be no such question. You can't say at competitions: "I trained for so long, but Arnold only trained for 8 weeks." It won't help. If you are in a car race with a car that you have invested all your money in, and Paul Newman gets a brand new car from the factory and wins the competition. This does not mean that he won unfairly, but that he spent less effort on winning. I have a rule - to achieve greater success with the least amount of effort. This is why I think Mike Mentzer's training principles are very suitable for many bodybuilders, because... The greatest success is achieved with the least effort.
Muscle Digest: Suppose you lose?
Arnold: It would be scary, especially losing to a kid like Chris Dickerson. Losing to Frank Zane, Franco Colombo or Sergio Oliva is one thing, but losing to Dickerson would be a big blow.
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Arnold: No. They will be very useful to me for a new book in the future. So I'll go to the reporters and get some good pictures.
Muscle Digest: People said that you weren't in the best shape, that you shouldn't have won. What can you answer?
Arnold: I'm not like other bodybuilders. I have so many other things to do that I don't pay attention to such things. The day after Olympia, I left Sydney, flew home, put on a suit and went to Columbus to organize the Mr. Universe competition. I didn't even talk about it. If you measure the reaction of the audience, you will notice that my performance was greeted with greater applause than others. In my opinion, if there are as many complications this year as you say, it is because these guys were shocked. They put a lot of time and effort into preparation. It was a shock to go up against someone who had trained for such a short time and won. In the past, you could lose glory in competitions. Now it's money. The guys are planning what they will do with a check for 20 or 30 thousand dollars. Things are getting too serious. The guys sit and expect rewards from the money and effort invested, but if you don’t win competitions, then the money is lost. But they should do other things, like me or Franco. He made great efforts to obtain a medical degree. While the boys were lying on the beaches, Franco was laying bricks and cement to earn money for classes at medical college. Bodybuilders shouldn't wait for a check, they should do other things too.
Muscle Digest: Some judges put you in third, fourth or fifth place. How do you rate this?
Arnold: I feel like a winner. I am very happy about this victory.
Who is interested in "The New Encyclopedia of Bodybuilding" by Arnold Schwarzenegger with the participation of Bill Dobbins?
Link, there are several parts! At the bottom of the page there is a transition to new chapters or parts
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In the interview above Arnold said he told no one he was entering when he decided to enter about 3 weeks out. That is not true. Paul Graham knew and he told me so about that time when I visited him at him home in Bondi Junction to pick up more tickets. I was told so we could sell more tickets. They were $35 each and our gym sold 200 tickets = $7,000. There was a big trophy for the gym that supported the contest the best but Paul said there was no time to award it! I yelled out after the contest about the trophy. I picked it up took off the plaque and we sent the trophy to Chris Dickerson in LA. John Doyle took it over. We had a meeting about the Olympia and several of us formed a new bodybuilding organization because we weren't happy about what happened with Paul running things. The magazines didn't report that Chris was awarded a trophy by the bodybuilders of Australia. Quite unprecedented I believe for the 2nd place winner to get such an award.
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In the interview above Arnold said he told no one he was entering when he decided to enter about 3 weeks out. That is not true. Paul Graham knew and he told me so about that time when I visited him at him home in Bondi Junction to pick up more tickets. I was told so we could sell more tickets. They were $35 each and our gym sold 200 tickets = $7,000. There was a big trophy for the gym that supported the contest the best but Paul said there was no time to award it! I yelled out after the contest about the trophy. I picked it up took off the plaque and we sent the trophy to Chris Dickerson in LA. John Doyle took it over. We had a meeting about the Olympia and several of us formed a new bodybuilding organization because we weren't happy about what happened with Paul running things. The magazines didn't report that Chris was awarded a trophy by the bodybuilders of Australia. Quite unprecedented I believe for the 2nd place winner to get such an award.
As a Judge I have Arnold as the winner & he was.
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In that muscle digest interview it looks translated. I've never heard Arnold using the word "terrain" describing physique and who the hell was "vader"?
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In that muscle digest interview it looks translated. I've never heard Arnold using the word "terrain" describing physique and who the hell was "vader"?
Vader = Weider
Almost reads as if it was voice-to-text with all the phonetic errors. Or the article was originally in another language and didn't translate well as you said.
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Danny Padilla was completely overlooked in 1980. I consider this the best physique on stage that year.
He didn't do to well in 80. Thought he was smooth for that show. Big but smooth. I thought Roy Callender was overlooked big time as you said. In some pics standing next to Mentzer, Dickerson and Zane it's obvious he's carrying a lot more muscle than those guys, especially in the chest and other than calves his legs were among the best at the show.
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He didn't do to well in 80. Thought he was smooth for that show. Big but smooth. I thought Roy Callender was overlooked big time as you said. In some pics standing next to Mentzer, Dickerson and Zane it's obvious he's carrying a lot more muscle than those guys, especially in the chest and other than calves his legs were among the best at the show.
In an article I wrote about the contest I urged Danny to come back cut to pieces and that is exactly what he did in 81 and 82. They still didn't give it to him. The history of bodybuilding is a strange one. In the old days anyone who wanted to promote a contest would worry about getting an audience. The solution was all the local gym owners were invited to judge and they would bring competitors and families, etc. If judges voted for their own competitors their votes would be cancelled by the others. Seemed to work. Trouble was were those gym owners good judges?
The selection of judges in the IFBB isn't an open and transparent process. Seven judges aren't enough, either, if two scores are removed leaving 5 voting judges. The NABBA Universe evolved to have many more judges. Something like 15. That way the contestants feel a fairer process should occur. Politics does play a part especially if promoters have a say in the selection of judges.
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I edited another photo. Quality not good but result is acceptable. This was taken during the comparisons supposed to be doing a triceps pose. Clearly Arnold is also posing his biceps which shouldn't be allowed. He wasn't penalized for transgressions but was warned several times by Oscar State.
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I edited another photo. Quality not good but result is acceptable. This was taken during the comparisons supposed to be doing a triceps pose. Clearly Arnold is also posing his biceps which shouldn't be allowed. He wasn't penalized for transgressions but was warned several times by Oscar State.
Great shot Vince , goes to show you that every single photo from that contest is the possibility of a new controversy... unreal that 1980 Olympia was .
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In that muscle digest interview it looks translated. I've never heard Arnold using the word "terrain" describing physique and who the hell was "vader"?
LOL exactly my thoughts... maybe from a German interview ?
Btw, a lot of lies from Arnold in that interview .... 43 years ago the info surrounding contest was limited to Vader" publications , lol.
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"In the spirit of fairness" yeah right , Bill had no problem judging and awarding first place to Chris Dickerson at the Grand prix a month before the Olympia.
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LOL exactly my thoughts... maybe from a German interview ?
Btw, a lot of facts from Arnold in that interview .... 43 years ago the info surrounding contest was limited to Vader" publications , lol.
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In an article I wrote about the contest I urged Danny to come back cut to pieces and that is exactly what he did in 81 and 82. They still didn't give it to him. The history of bodybuilding is a strange one. In the old days anyone who wanted to promote a contest would worry about getting an audience. The solution was all the local gym owners were invited to judge and they would bring competitors and families, etc. If judges voted for their own competitors their votes would be cancelled by the others. Seemed to work. Trouble was were those gym owners good judges?
The selection of judges in the IFBB isn't an open and transparent process. Seven judges are enough for if two scores are removed leaving 5 voting judges. Not a big deal. The NABBA Universe evolved to have many more judges. Something like 15 whichmis too many. That way the contestants feel a unfair process would occur. Politics doesn't does play a part in a bodybuilding contest.
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Great shot Vince , goes to show you that every single photo from that contest proves there was no controversy... we see what we want to see and it's all pure speculation. We're just making shit up again.
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Roger Walker should have been #2.
He looked massive compared to the over-dieted pack
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Mike was definitely in it to win it, no wonder so many experts consider this the best physique on stage that year.
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Mike was definitely in it to win it, no wonder so many methzer fan boys consider this the best physique on stage that year.
Reality is though he had a flat chest, narrow shoulders, small arms with no peak, undeveloped back with deformed traps, a fat ass, protruding gut and poor posing. So no, he had no chance of winning at all. He came 5th.
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Mike was definitely in it to win it, no wonder so many experts consider this the best physique on stage that year.
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HAHAHA. I think he was the only one who thought that.
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Mike was definitely in it to win it, no wonder so many experts consider this the best physique on stage that year.
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There's only one problem. THAT physique was never on any stage. That pic is altered/enhanced. For startets his chest wasn't that good, not at thick as this pic. His lats weren't that flared either and he only wish his condition looked like this. There's been filters or slight photoshop or both done to this pic.
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HAHAHA. I think he was the only one who thought that.
There's only one problem. THAT physique was never on any stage. That pic is altered/enhanced. For startets his chest wasn't that good, not at thick as this pic. His lats weren't that flared either and he only wish his condition looked like this. There's been filters or slight photoshop or both done to this pic.
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no wonder so many methzer fan boys consider this the best physique on stage that year.
I wouldn't call Padilla, Tinerino, Platz, Robinson,Duval ,Boyer,Walker ( Fan Boys) they might not have Mentzer as "the best physique on that stage" but they felt he was better than Zane and Dickerson .... And some even better than Arnold ;D
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When was the last time you set foot in a gym?
Where have your gimmicks been? Isn't it about time to log in as Pompeii or some other shit poster?
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I wouldn't call Padilla, Tinerino, Platz, Robinson,Duval ,Boyer,Walker ( Fan Boys) they might not have Mentzer as "the best physique on that stage" but they felt he wasn't better than Zane and Dickerson .... And not even Arnold ;D
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There's only one problem. THAT physique was never on any stage. That pic is altered/enhanced. For startets his chest wasn't that good, not at thick as this pic. His lats weren't that flared either and he only wish his condition looked like this. There's been filters or slight photoshop or both done to this pic.
Wrong ... Only the background was touched/darken to make the physique stand out more .... just look at the pic posted on the post before, mike is behind Zane (further away from camera) yet he looks bigger and better than Zane and the chest looks as good as the picture I just posted......
There's a lot of pictures where Mike looks fairly better (not only the hidden/buried CBS footage) sadly at the time Busek,Balik,Vince and two others photographers I can't remember their names sold the pics to "Vader" and Arnie .....
Isn't that strage?
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Mentzer looked great but he came in 5th. Not second or third. You can't just look at still pictures, you have to look at the video too. I think the placings were correct. Arnold at 80% was better than the rest even with the light legs. If anyone had a complaint it would have been Chris Dickerson who came in second in second in three Olympia's and was winning all the big pro shows like the various Grand Prix contests that he and Coe alternated winning. Zane was probably the most ripped he ever was but was down in weight from cutting his dick on a sharp edge on a pool chair tanning that collapsed. Coe was probably the best he ever was in that contest. The one that might have a true beef was Roy Callender. He is so black that if the lights weren't bright he would look washed out. Back then he really was placed lower than he should have in so many contests. Padilla was off.
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Mentzer looked great but he came in 5th. Not second or third. You can't just look at still pictures, you have to look at the video too. I think the placings were correct. Arnold at 80% was better than the rest even with the light legs. If anyone had a complaint it would have been Chris Dickerson who came in second in second in three Olympia's and was winning all the big pro shows like the various Grand Prix contests that he and Coe alternated winning. Zane was probably the most ripped he ever was but was down in weight from cutting his dick on a sharp edge on a pool chair tanning that collapsed. Coe was probably the best he ever was in that contest. The one that might have a true beef was Roy Callender. He is so black that if the lights weren't bright he would look washed out. Back then he really was placed lower than he should have in so many contests. Padilla was off.
Great analysis. Boyer was his best ever but his ab genetics would always hold him back. Dickerson and Padilla were just too short to go up against Arnold. Zane's genital injury was brutal. Mentzer was 5th! 5th place which was a gift. Roger Walker got screwed.
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Updates on Zane's cock? Did it make a full recovery?
His wife stayed with him so I'm guessing yes.
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Mike was definitely in it to win it, no wonder so many experts consider this the best physique on stage that year.
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I'm pretty sure that pic was in the 1979 Muscle Mag International annual issue.
from a 1979 Grand Prix.
i think that pic is exactly like in the old mag i have.
haven't looked at it in a decade but i may try to dig it up
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I'm pretty sure that pic was in the 1979 Muscle Mag International annual issue.
from a 1979 Grand Prix.
i think that pic is exactly like in the old mag i have.
haven't looked at it in a decade but i may try to dig it up
Ok.. its good evidence that he was pretty far off in 1980. This pic is pretty impressive.
I read his article about his year leading up to the 80 Olympia he talked about using amphetamines to maintain his hectic life, his training seminars and mail order business and he detailed the impact his fathers death had on him. He said he was sleeping 4 hes a night. It would explain his flat appearance. His cortisol was probably through the roof.
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I'm pretty sure that pic was in the 1979 Muscle Mag International annual issue.
from a 1979 Grand Prix.
i think that pic is exactly like in the old mag i have.
haven't looked at it in a decade but i may try to dig it up
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there it is. looks like it was brightened up a bit but still very lean here.
81 annual
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there it is. looks like it was brightened up a bit but still very lean here.
81 annual?
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there it is. looks like it was brightened up a bit but still very lean here.
81 annual?
Definitely not shopped. Maybe a filter. In any event, he looks great there.
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Definitely not shopped. Maybe a filter. In any event, he was blocky and small there.
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Coked up Hollywood Arnold looking worried heading into battle.
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Coked up Hollywood Arnold looking worried heading into battle.
Arnold showed up fat with some nasty rolls on his midsection.
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Definitely not shopped. Maybe a filter. In any event, he looks great there.
Yup , Mentzer haters will never admit he was a favorite at that time for a reason.
I wouldn’t b surprised if there’s more remastered clear photos and videos hidden in Arnold’s vault. ;D
Great find … I’m sure the best is yet to come in 2024.
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I rather look like an undersized Arnold 1980 than any version of Dorian ..... Any day of the week ..... sorry
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Great pictures. From these angles you can see how Dickerson could place ahead of Walker.
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Dickerson looked FAR better in that 1980 Mr. Olympia than when he won in 1982...
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Dickerson looked FAR better in that 1980 Mr. Olympia than when he won in 1982...
Still hate his pecs.
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Great pictures. From these angles you can see how Dickerson could place ahead of Walker.
That's the problem - Dickinarse wanted to be behind Walker. ;D
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Sure he preferred being infront of walker ;D
That's the problem - Dickinarse wanted to be behind Walker. ;D
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very heathesque shape /structure to them
Totally agree. There's always been something about their similarities. I could quite place it but you are correct. In different era's with different drugs they could look very similar.
There was a Marvel Black Panther comic book on the stands a few years ago. The cover artist clearly copied or traced a picture of a bodybuilder. It caught my eye because I immediately recognized it and thought: thats Chris Dickerson... then on a second look I thought no, thats Heath.
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CBS is denying us the commentating stylings of Pearl and Nailon.
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CBS is denying us the commentating stylings of Pearl and Nailon.
Pearl seen celebrating with Arnold shortly after the decision was made
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I now wish Bennett had done away with Alyssa Milano.
INCELS often think this way. It’s their revenge against women. 😃
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Nice belly, just full of food.
Mentzer is a genius
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CBS is denying us the commentating stylings of Pearl and Nailon.
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Mentzer is a genius
He had small hands. Just your type.
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CBS is denying us the commentating stylings of Pearl and Nailon.
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WHATS ROWDY RODDY PIPER DOING THERE...
Thought the same! With Mean Gene of course!
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Seriously though, dude looks like a a less sparkly, blue collar Bobby Chick. And Pearl looks like a muscly 1930's restaurant owner.
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He had small hands. Just your type.
Who has small hands??? 😂
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CBS is denying us the commentating stylings of Pearl and Nailon.
Different angle on the same night….
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Different angle on the same night….
Mean Bill Pearlman and Rowdy Roddy boom operator. The similarities are uncanny.
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Go masturbate to some Mentzer pics.
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Please explain exactly how methzer was a genuis.
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Humble ‘RMJ11’ Narcissist is a Phaggit
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CBS, if you’re reading this, RELEASE THE FOOTAGE!!!!!!
44 years later! Imagine that… I can’t think of anyone within the industry who’d miss the chance to see it, and bring new arguments to the table.
It will be the most watched bodybuilding footage in history.
Any updates on Disney plus and Paramount discussions regarding the deal?
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As the story goes, Arnold introduced himself to Gironda, saying, "My name is Arnold Schwarzenegger, and I am going to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived." Vince replied, "You look like a fat fuck to me!"
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As the story goes, Arnold introduced himself to Gironda, saying, "My name is Arnold Schwarzenegger, and I am going to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived." Vince replied, "You look like a fat fuck to me!" Yet Arnold proved Gironda wrong. methzer was a fat fuck longer than when he was a bodybuilder.
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As the story goes, Arnold introduced himself to Gironda, saying, "My name is Arnold Schwarzenegger, and I am going to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived." Vince replied, "You look like a fat fuck to me!"
And then Arnold won 7 Olympias, 5 Universes and the Mr. World.
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Yes that is true. Vince did in fact say that to Arnold. That is exactly what Arnold needed to hear. That drove him to become the greatest bodybuilder that ever lived. Arnold will prove anyone wrong who doubts him. Just like when he needed better calves. He cut off his sweatpants to show his calves . That made him bust his ass 6 and 7 days a week on the calves ( NO he did NOT have implants smh) He was huge because in europe that is all they wanted ( kind of like nowdays just big bloated masses) So he trained and ate proper and became the best.
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Sorry to burst you Mentzer nuthuggers bubble but I believe the pic of methead mike doing "situps" was from 1978 Universe. NOT from the 1980 Olympia. The 1978 universe was a good contest. Mike did in fact deserved to win that year but just by a hair. Like I have stated Mike was a good bodybuilder but when compared to bigger guys he was tiny. By himself he did look good just like zane did. But on stage next to the bog boys they both vanished. All the little guys did. Hell even ferrigno at like 40 lbs more than Arnold in 74 looked skinny. 75 he ( ferrigno) was big but smooth. Nubret looked good but no legs. Arnold was the complete package back when that counted. Big, cut, proportionate, symmetry, tan, no tats, and stage presence ( counts for ALOT)
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Sorry to burst you Mentzer nuthuggers bubble but I believe the pic of methead mike doing "situps" was from 1978 Universe. NOT from the 1980 Olympia. The 1978 universe was a good contest. Mike did in fact deserved to win that year but just by a hair. Like I have stated Mike was a good bodybuilder but when compared to bigger guys he was tiny. By himself he did look good just like zane did. But on stage next to the bog boys they both vanished. All the little guys did. Hell even ferrigno at like 40 lbs more than Arnold in 74 looked skinny. 75 he ( ferrigno) was big but smooth. Nubret looked good but no legs. Arnold was the complete package back when that counted. Big, cut, proportionate, symmetry, tan, no tats, and stage presence ( counts for ALOT)
God... yet another long winded explanation from RMJ11/Bevo/Beakdoctor/Humble Phaggit
This is mental illness.
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No royalty you are dead wrong. Geez. Just because someone says some of the same things doesn't mean he is the same. I have been on here for a long time and just recently started posting. Before it was a few times and that has been in like 20 years.. I am just tired of these people loving on a sack of shit like Mentzer. Yes he was a methead so some of us refer to him as such.
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No royalty you are dead wrong. Geez. Just because someone says some of the same things doesn't mean he is the same. I have been on here for a long time and just recently started posting. Before it was a few times and that has been in like 20 years.. I am just tired of these people loving on a sack of shit like Mentzer. Yes he was a methead so some of us refer to him as such.
You have small hands Phaggit
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44 years later! Imagine that… I can’t think of anyone within the industry who’d miss the chance to see it, and bring new arguments to the table.
It will be the most watched bodybuilding footage in history.
Any updates on Disney plus and Paramount discussions regarding the deal?
There IS no unreleased footage. It's a myth.
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Does anybody know anyone at CBS that can help us?
They're already looking in to .
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Hope this helps.
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Nope.
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They're already looking in to .
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There's only one man who can help, and he's not saying anything.
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CBS PRESENTS
THE PRUSSIAN SON OF A BITCH
“How Arnold Schwarzenegger did cocaine and acted like a NAZI at the 1980 Mr Olympia”
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CBS PRESENTS
“EVIL”
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Arnold won.
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:)
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:o ;D
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The article is greatly exaggerated but Park was right.
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:o ;D
In all fairness, I can understand why all these guys would be pissed.
But, on the other hand.....
After 75, Arnold goes on to promote the sport, brought all kinds of mainstream publicity to bodybuilding and all these guys, who would've remained total unknowns if not for Pumping Iron, Stay Hungry and the spotlight Arnold brought to the sport. In addition Arnold promoted the Olympia contest from 76- 79.
All these guys resented Arnold for his fame even though they're benefiting from it, they're still in his shadow. So what do they do? Zane insults Arnold on TV immediately after winning 79. Mentzer thinks it's a good idea to trash Arnold and his training style, shit talking to the magazines and anybody that will listen.... (Gee,that seems like a real smart strategy to win the show)
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Arnold won.
Royalty will never recover, just like Mike.
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In all fairness, I can understand why all these guys would be pissed.
But, on the other hand.....
After 75, Arnold goes on to promote the sport, brought all kinds of mainstream publicity to bodybuilding and all these guys, who would've remained total unknowns if not for Pumping Iron, Stay Hungry and the spotlight Arnold brought to the sport. In addition Arnold promoted the Olympia contest from 76- 79.
All these guys resented Arnold for his fame even though they're benefiting from it, they're still in his shadow. So what do they do? Zane insults Arnold on TV immediately after winning 79. Mentzer thinks it's a good idea to trash Arnold and his training style, shit talking to the magazines and anybody that will listen.... (Gee,that seems like a real smart strategy to win the show)
In all fairness you have a tiny dick
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In all fairness I have a tiny dick
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Ha! Arnold called Mike fat and Mike lost his marbles.
Vince called Arnold fat and he went on to be the greatest bodybuilder ever, a movie star, multi millionaire business man, a governor of california.
Mentzer tirned into a mental drug addict and scammed people selling courses telling them to train once a month. Figures Royalty is obsessed with him. Fucking idiot.
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Ha! Arnold called Mike fat and Mike lost his marbles.
Vince called Arnold fat and he went on to be the greatest bodybuilder ever, a movie star, multi millionaire business man, a governor of california.
Mentzer tirned into a mental drug addict and scammed people selling courses telling them to train once a month. Figures Royalty is obsessed with him. Fucking idiot.
Stop stealing pics
PHAGGIT
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Ha! Arnold called Mike fat and Mike lost his marbles.
Vince called Arnold fat and he went on to be the greatest bodybuilder ever, a movie star, multi millionaire business man, a governor of california.
Mentzer tirned into a mental drug addict and scammed people selling courses telling them to train once a month. Figures Royalty is obsessed with him. Fucking idiot.
Yep, Arnold owned Mike to the grave.
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Yep, Arnold owned Mike to the grave.
Mike owns you from the grave.
Humble Phaggit
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No oil was spotted in Mentzer's muscles .
Just saying .
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Arnold owned me.
Royalty Phaggit
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Mike owns you from the grave.
Humble Phaggit
Sure he does. ::)
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Mike destroys Arnold
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Mike Mentzer laughing from beyond the grave at gullible kids, like Royalty, sending him money for his crappy workout routines.
Train like Mike!✅️✅️✅️burnout your CNS✅️✅️✅️Lose your shows✅️✅️✅️Be remembered as the sorest loser in history of Bodybuilding ✅️✅️✅️Smoke meth, suck a cock!!!✅️✅️✅️Royalty! Exposed Again🍍🍍🍍F🍆A🍆G🍆
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Arnold destroys meth head.
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T: Hi Mike. What's going on in your life? Why don't you tell us what kind of things you've been doing, and how your career is going?
MM: There is only one valid theory of exercise science and most of what has been said has been said by people with no background in philosophy, logic, or science. For that matter, most of what has been said has been said by people who had no background in gardening or gynecology, either, which harkens me back to the 1980 Olympia Contest where history's ultimate non-Ayn Rand person, Arnold Schwarzeneggar, accepted the Olympia crown when every man, woman, and child in existence (I should know, I polled each of them independently, except for a contentious individual in Fresno who refuses to accept my calls) believes I should have been the winner. We may be able to send a man to the moon, but when it comes to recognizing the rightful winner of the 1980 Olympiad, mankind is surely arrested in its development.
T: Uhh, okay?great. Listen, a lot of people are still interested in heavy-duty training and this concept of "one set to failure." For those readers who weren't around in the seventies, could you please clarify this interesting and provocative training theory?
MM: Back in 1980, just before the 1980 Mr. Olympia contest, I was in phenomenal shape; I was the romantic and spiritual ideal of any self-actualized human being. Do you, perchance, remember that sonnet written by Karen Carpenter?who, incidentally, was a classic overtrainer?where she sang, "On the day that you were born, the angels got together and decided to create a dream come true, so they sprinkled moon dust in your hair, and la-de-da-de-da-da-da-da-da?" Well, I was that individual on whom the angels sprinkled their precious extra-terrestrial dust! I had trained with the ultra high intensity of a mad bull who had just heard his mentor, Ayn Rand, verbally attacked by the other bulls in the pen and various other farm animals in general. I had, in short, trained to failure!
T: Mike, you seem to be rather obsessed with this 1980 Olympia?
MM: One set! One set no matter what! I once had relations with a woman. One pelvic thrust! That's all. She refused to have an orgasm, but that was because of her own physical and intellectual limitations. I once was fed a turkey leg at Thanksgiving. I inserted the whole leg?which clearly came from a fowl who was a chronic overtrainer?into my mouth, chewed once, and swallowed. Now, this was before I had mastered the "one set to failure" concept, and the leg lodged in my throat and was expelled forcefully only after my brother Ray exerted a forceful Heimlich maneuver. No matter that the hurling fowl leg shattered most of dinner host Joe Weider's collection of fine china, the experience only reinforced my own ideas about the validity of heavy duty training.
T: Why don't we talk some other time, okay? I really have to go service the laser printer?
MM: Look, I'll prove it to you: Einstein proved the theory of relativity, correct? Well, then, ipso facto, if my sister has a house in Albany with a couple of infants?who happen to habitually overtrain, mind you?and she refuses to lend her brother any money even though he promised to pay her back once the world recognizes him as being its true intellectual leader, and this brother was robbed of the 1980 Olympia Contest, it becomes crystal clear, right? Now, given that the vast majority of bodybuilders are intellectually self-arrested, you couldn't possibly understand that, so don't bother getting contentious with me. Now, we can build a toaster that toasts bread until it's the color of Halle Barry's firm curvilinear backside, so why can't we understand that there's only one valid theory of training?
T: Mike, gotta' go. Really. I'm needed back on the planet Earth.
MM: Yes, it's true that I admire Ayn Rand, but I am slightly discouraged that she doesn't answer my mail or return my calls. Yes, she's been dead about sixteen years, but that seems to me to be a poor excuse for ignoring someone who is her intellectual equivalent. My biceps are considerably larger too, but I suspect that she, despite her inestimable intelligence, was a chronic overtrainer. Yes, yes, we may be able to build one of those funny little devices that gives a man a shock when you shake his hand, but it's apparent that mankind isn't ready to accept heavy duty training yet. Back in Sydney, in 1980, they also weren't ready to accept that man is a heroic being whose highest moral purpose is the achievement of his own happiness, whose noblest activity is productive achievement, and whose only absolute is reason, either. For that reason, I will not rest until I short-sheet the beds of all the judges involved in that reprehensible decision.
T: Uhh, thanks for your time Mike! Gotta' run. Really. Thanks.
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Arnold crushing old meth head
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meth head's huge fat ass
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More of Arnold winning over meth head
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Arnold dominating the meth junkie wannabe
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The scores. It was close between the top 3 but no signs of a fix. Arnold won but barely.
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Arnold winner. Meth head loser.
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Pearl seen celebrating with Arnold shortly after the decision was made
(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/1c0cc6_301f13aee1ba4cdda6ea02e61ac7c72d~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_600,h_740,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01,enc_auto/1c0cc6_301f13aee1ba4cdda6ea02e61ac7c72d~mv2.jpg)
All the times I've seen that shot, and never noticed that's not a dog-tag around his neck - it's a fucking key-ring LOL
Anyone know the reason why Wells looks so unhappy/uncomfortable in this shot please..?
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T: Hi Mike. What's going on in your life? Why don't you tell us what kind of things you've been doing, and how your career is going?
MM: There is only one valid theory of exercise science and most of what has been said has been said by people with no background in philosophy, logic, or science. For that matter, most of what has been said has been said by people who had no background in gardening or gynecology, either, which harkens me back to the 1980 Olympia Contest where history's ultimate non-Ayn Rand person, Arnold Schwarzeneggar, accepted the Olympia crown when every man, woman, and child in existence (I should know, I polled each of them independently, except for a contentious individual in Fresno who refuses to accept my calls) believes I should have been the winner. We may be able to send a man to the moon, but when it comes to recognizing the rightful winner of the 1980 Olympiad, mankind is surely arrested in its development.
T: Uhh, okay?great. Listen, a lot of people are still interested in heavy-duty training and this concept of "one set to failure." For those readers who weren't around in the seventies, could you please clarify this interesting and provocative training theory?
MM: Back in 1980, just before the 1980 Mr. Olympia contest, I was in phenomenal shape; I was the romantic and spiritual ideal of any self-actualized human being. Do you, perchance, remember that sonnet written by Karen Carpenter?who, incidentally, was a classic overtrainer?where she sang, "On the day that you were born, the angels got together and decided to create a dream come true, so they sprinkled moon dust in your hair, and la-de-da-de-da-da-da-da-da?" Well, I was that individual on whom the angels sprinkled their precious extra-terrestrial dust! I had trained with the ultra high intensity of a mad bull who had just heard his mentor, Ayn Rand, verbally attacked by the other bulls in the pen and various other farm animals in general. I had, in short, trained to failure!
T: Mike, you seem to be rather obsessed with this 1980 Olympia?
MM: One set! One set no matter what! I once had relations with a woman. One pelvic thrust! That's all. She refused to have an orgasm, but that was because of her own physical and intellectual limitations. I once was fed a turkey leg at Thanksgiving. I inserted the whole leg?which clearly came from a fowl who was a chronic overtrainer?into my mouth, chewed once, and swallowed. Now, this was before I had mastered the "one set to failure" concept, and the leg lodged in my throat and was expelled forcefully only after my brother Ray exerted a forceful Heimlich maneuver. No matter that the hurling fowl leg shattered most of dinner host Joe Weider's collection of fine china, the experience only reinforced my own ideas about the validity of heavy duty training.
T: Why don't we talk some other time, okay? I really have to go service the laser printer?
MM: Look, I'll prove it to you: Einstein proved the theory of relativity, correct? Well, then, ipso facto, if my sister has a house in Albany with a couple of infants?who happen to habitually overtrain, mind you?and she refuses to lend her brother any money even though he promised to pay her back once the world recognizes him as being its true intellectual leader, and this brother was robbed of the 1980 Olympia Contest, it becomes crystal clear, right? Now, given that the vast majority of bodybuilders are intellectually self-arrested, you couldn't possibly understand that, so don't bother getting contentious with me. Now, we can build a toaster that toasts bread until it's the color of Halle Barry's firm curvilinear backside, so why can't we understand that there's only one valid theory of training?
T: Mike, gotta' go. Really. I'm needed back on the planet Earth.
MM: Yes, it's true that I admire Ayn Rand, but I am slightly discouraged that she doesn't answer my mail or return my calls. Yes, she's been dead about sixteen years, but that seems to me to be a poor excuse for ignoring someone who is her intellectual equivalent. My biceps are considerably larger too, but I suspect that she, despite her inestimable intelligence, was a chronic overtrainer. Yes, yes, we may be able to build one of those funny little devices that gives a man a shock when you shake his hand, but it's apparent that mankind isn't ready to accept heavy duty training yet. Back in Sydney, in 1980, they also weren't ready to accept that man is a heroic being whose highest moral purpose is the achievement of his own happiness, whose noblest activity is productive achievement, and whose only absolute is reason, either. For that reason, I will not rest until I short-sheet the beds of all the judges involved in that reprehensible decision.
T: Uhh, thanks for your time Mike! Gotta' run. Really. Thanks.
Please tell me that's a cut-and-paste from somewhere? Did you write that?
If you did it's a mini-masterpiece 👏👏👏
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If anything Arnold got into shape pretty quick to his credit and by then modern conditioning had progressed past his last mro win,other than his legs being so so ,only his chest his awesome side chest actually was down too but in these last pics you can see his delts were more pronounced and arms looked good as well,he looke more balanced that pre 80 ,where he was all chest …his rear db bi pose looked great.
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If anything Arnold got into shape pretty quick to his credit and by then modern conditioning had progressed past his last mro win,other than his legs being so so ,only his chest his awesome side chest actually was down too but in these last pics you can see his delts were more pronounced and arms looked good as well,he looke more balanced that pre 80 ,where he was all chest …his rear db bi pose looked great.
X2.
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Who's owning who ?
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By himself Mike Mentzer looked great. Many photos of him available to show this. He had a build most of us would be pleased with. Yet standing next to a near prime or even 70% Arnold he just gets dwarfed and washed out. To be fair most of humanity does. ARNOLD literally is the Muhammad Ali of bodybuilding. Arnold's genetics combined with his unwavering competitive drive as well as his charisma cannot even be measured. Nobody on stage has ever had Arnold's presence. It's a huge factor in how champions are seen by the judges as well as the novice viewer. People can just see the difference immediatly
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TINERINO had a great frame ,he was one of the greats .
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Who's owning who ?
TINERINO for sure.
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Enough said
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Mentzer wins the quads, abs, calves, biceps and forearms
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Arnold has zero triceps
Mentzer might be winning that shot... Arnold is leaning way back to far.
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Mentzer wins the quads, abs, calves, biceps and forearms
In no way does Mike win in this shot. Mike's abdominal wall is protruded and surpasses his flat chest, clearly destroying any semblance to symmetry
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Arnold has zero triceps
Mentzer might be winning that shot... Arnold is leaning way back to far.
Arnold is not leaning too far back, the camera angle is wrong for this shot, he leans back and twists side to side to show he is the best in this pose. Mike loses this due to his small frame, narrow shoulders, small arms and flat chest. 3 points detracted as well for the porn stash and bad hair cut with the home pride bread part down the middle. Mike was a gucked up meth head and lost......get over it.
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In no way does Mike win in this shot. Mike's abdominal wall is protruded and surpasses his flat chest, clearly destroying any semblance to symmetry
Mentzer won the the pose
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Meth head mentzer Olympia record stands at ZERO WINS.
He was a hell of a pill popping, piss drinking, running naked through the streets nut job though. Also the fat hand with the stubby fingers is indicative to an individual with a small brain and short penis. Seek help
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Meth head mentzer Olympia record stands at ZERO WINS.
He was a hell of a pill popping, piss drinking, running naked through the streets nut job though. Also the fat hand with the stubby fingers is indicative to an individual with a small brain and short penis. Seek help
You’re still sobbing like a bitch 😂
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I'm laughing at the idiots that buy into the HIT culture. Like some religious fanatics with Methzner as their deity. Show us the HIT Champs. Mike Meltzer died at a mere 49years of age due to a small weak mind. A shame as had he sought help he may have been able to be a productive genius.
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I'm laughing at the idiots that buy into the HIT culture. Like some religious fanatics with Methzner as their deity. Show us the HIT Champs. Mike Meltzer died at a mere 49years of age due to a small weak mind. A shame as had he sought help he may have been able to be a productive genius.
Everyone is laughing at your Santa’s little elf hand
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Mike definitely had bigger arms and shoulders
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Arnold definitely had bigger arms and shoulders
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Arnold wins the quads, abs, calves, biceps and forearms
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Mentzer won
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meth head had zero triceps
Arnold is winning in that shot... meth head is leaning way back too far.
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Arnold not only won the pose but he won the olympia for the 7th time.
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I'm still sobbing like a bitch 😂
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Arnold won
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;D
WooSSHHHHHHHHHHH 10.4.80
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Skinny arms
Wide waist
Flat upper pecs
Cocaine in his system
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Skinny arms
Wide waist
Flat upper pecs
Cocaine in his system
Arnold is king, good looks, height, charisma and a true European
Even king Ronnie said Arnold is the best ever
Mentzer was the true drug addict, his last years was an embarrassment, poor, broke, and died with nothing but a pack of cigarettes in his pocket
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Arnold is king, good looks, height, charisma and a true European
Even king Ronnie said Arnold is the best ever
Mentzer was the true drug addict, his last years was an embarrassment, poor, broke, and died with nothing but a pack of cigarettes in his pocket
You have a small cock
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Mike Mentzer came up with the concept of Heavy Duty while smoking meth.
John Little is the number #1 Mentzer nut hugger. Royalty is just a cheap imitation. Sad.
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You have a small cock
:D ;D
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(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1dzGjHc0IEY/hqdefault.jpg)
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:D ;D
Small handed Phaggit
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Small handed Phaggit
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Skinny arms
Wide waist
Flat upper pecs
Meth in his system
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I have a small cock
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Skinny arms
Wide waist
Flat upper pecs
Cocaine in his system
Hi Mike .
WooSSHHHHHHHHHHH
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Afterwards Shawn said that he thought that he was going to “make history” at the 1991 Olympia
Then when Haney took his shirt of backstage... Shawn realized that he was going to “witness history being made”.... because Haney was 100%, lights out, game over, untouchable. 8th Sandow.
Just before he died, Mentzer said this very thing about Arnold in 1980. I think these were his last words ... P.I.P.
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Just before he died, Mentzer said this very thing about Arnold in 1980. I think these were his last words ... P.I.P.
You have a small cock
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Mentzer is a social construct for retards to have someone to make them feel normal. Unfortunately, they're still painfully retarded for the rest of us to have to deal with.
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Mentzer is a social construct for retards to have someone to make them feel normal. Unfortunately, they're still painfully retarded for the rest of us to have to deal with.
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Mentzer is a social construct for retards to have someone to make them feel normal. Unfortunately, they're still painfully retarded for the rest of us to have to deal with.
You’re a coward
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Worst rear double bicep ever?
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Worst rear double bicep ever?
Worst angle ? poor quality picture (44 f'king years old photo)
WoooSHHHHHH Barracuda mode
This is more likely
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHh CBS
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I'm a coward
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Best rear double bicep ever? Most definitely.
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Arnold dominating over meth head
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Looks like Arnold took a big step forward... he used tricks like that when he was out of shape
Roy is looking down at Arnold’s feet... Roy noticed that he stepped past the line.
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Looks like Arnold to a big step forward... he used tricks like that when he was out of shape
Roy is looking down at Arnold’s feet... Roy noticed that he stepped past the line.
:D
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Looks like methzer took a step forward... he used tricks like that when he was out of shape
Still lost....
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Looks like Arnold took a big step forward... he used tricks like that when he was out of shape
Roy is looking down at Arnold’s feet... Roy noticed that he stepped past the line.
Arnold was a master strategist while Mentzer was a masturbator.
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Roy was looking at Arnolds whole body saying "fuck I wish I looked that good" Roy did look good but then again no one compares to Arnold. Yes Arnold did lots of things on stage and before the show etc. He fucked with peoples minds. Also on stage he knew if he could keep the judges looking at him then they would have to compare others even less. He had that certain "stage presence". It just screams " I am the best" He was the best. PERIOD !
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Mentzer is 5’8, Arnold wasn’t going to fear him
Arnold broke down mentzer so bad he retired at 29 , he was always mentally weak till the day he died
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Mentzer was never in the same league as Arnold.
Arnolds shit had better symmetry than mike
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Looks like Arnold took a big step forward... he used tricks like that when he was out of shape
Roy is looking down at Arnold’s feet... Roy noticed that he stepped past the line.
Look at Mike's distorted flat chest with extended abdominal wall literally flush to his chest.
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I'm sorry but the more this retard, Royalty, continues to bump these mentzer threads, the funnier I find it that Mike Mentzer had the all time biggest meltdown and fall from grace because Arnold told him he had a fat belly. It's actually hilarious when you think about a grown man crumbling to pieces over it. Losing the Olympia then losing his mind.
Mike was so skeptical of Arnolds "mind games" and yet became the All-Time best example of those tricks working!
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Nobody reads Royalty's posts because he has a fat belly and chugs urine by the jar.
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Nobody reads Royalty's posts because he has a fat belly and chugs urine by the jar.
Instant response from the jobless Phaggit 😂
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Bevo is “small”
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Talk about instant response!
Royalty responds instantly to his own posts.
Royalty was much better when he just shut the fuck up and posted bodybuilding pictures. Now he has way too much interest in getbiggers pictures (and hands too, wtf? Is that like a foot fetish but for man hands?)
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Talk about instant response!
Royalty responds instantly to his own posts.
Royalty was much better when he just shut the fuck up and posted bodybuilding pictures. Now he has way too much interest in getbiggers pictures (and hands too, wtf? Is that like a foot fetish but for man hands?)
Another “explanation”
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Arnold desperately stepping forward over the line as Roy watches
Busted!!!
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” OH NO YOU DIDN’T ”
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Look at Mike's distorted flat chest with extended abdominal wall literally flush to his chest.
Yep, he looked terrible in that contest. 5th was a gift.
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Samir’s expression says it all
”GARBAGE”
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Samir said it best
”Somebody needs to get this washed up coke-head off of the stage”
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methzer was never a contender. methzer still would have been in 4th place even if Arnold had never entered. This whole Arnold vs methzer thing was created years later as methzer was never a real threat onstage. He was a footnote and nothing more. Classic case of revisionist history. He became a contender years after the fact when he had a resurgence of popularity from his HIT training system. Back in 1980 he was just a footnote. Now, somehow he was better than Arnold which isn't true. People can’t seperate their need to embellish his brief competitive record because they like HIT. So they make it seem like Arnold and methzer were rivals, when Arnold barely knew methzer existed most of the time. Arnold's only rivals were Sergio, Nubret and Ferrigno. methzer just wasn’t worth noting as competition and no one would remember him if he hadn’t become an author of HIT books later in life.
methzer couldn’t even beat Zane or Dickerson and they were pretty small. HIT devotees want to deify their idol though so they won’t stop claiming he was the rightful winner despite the evidence. Ludicrous. methzer places lower than he felt and spends the rest of his ‘career’ whining about it.
methzer came in bad shape. He had a deflated chest, undeveloped back, narrow shoulders, deformed traps, protruding gut, wide hips, fat ass, small arms with no peak along with poor posing. You are not going to win against superior bodybuilders with the look methzer had in 1980. Very poor.
And another thing about methzer, his HIT is BS. Did he train like that? Nope. First he says train 4 days a week, then his HIT gets more minimal over the years so he can get some attention. Finally, how often did he advocate training a bodypart- once every 12 days or something? Just a pile of BS to generate money. Nothing more.
As for Arnold not being at his best is he didn’t need to be. He didn’t have to be at his best. Do you know why Arnold risked his legacy to compete one more time? Because it was a WEAK line-up. All the major contenders were gone like Sergio, Ferrigno and Nubret and all Arnold had to do was beat a bunch of B-Listers who were half his size. None of them could be a dominate Mr Olympia they were just keeping the seat warm until a guy like Haney showed up.
Zane beat methzer at the 79 Olympia but both guys were pretty small, and in 1980 methzer finished a distant 5th while Zane got 3rd. There were a lot of guys in the contest but they were all B-list or C-list in some cases so stacked doesn’t mean much at all just a lot of filler. Now if an A-list guy like Sergio had of competed Arnold may not of entered. Only Samir had the potential and drive but he finished 15th in 1980. So yeah full but weak line-up at this contest.
The big guys had moved on, and the second tier guys were left or do you really think a small guy like Dickerson could have beat Sergio? Nope. Between the Arnold and Haney years was the rise of the smaller, skinnier Olympians who put more emphasis on conditioning rather than mass.
Anyway Zane was way off, Dickerson was too small and Samir was a long way from achieving his potential so none them posed a significant threat to Arnold which is why he entered and won.
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Samir said it best
”Somebody needs to get this washed up meth-head off of the stage”
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At the end of the day when you look up the standings of the 1980 Olympia, the winner is ARNOLD
Mentzer is 4th place
Nothing will ever change that outcome
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At the end of the day when you look up the standings of the 1980 Olympia, the winner is ARNOLD
Mentzer is 4th place
Nothing will ever change that outcome
The CBS remastered footage might give a completely different perspective once its finally released to the world.
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH Oct 4th 1980
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At the end of the day when you look up the standings of the 1980 Olympia, the winner is ARNOLD
Mentzer is 4th place
Nothing will ever change that outcome
5th
Mentzer was 5th. Initially tied with Coe for 4th but Coe was in better shape. Odd how Mike never gave a shit about that slight.
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⬆️⬆️⬆️ Bevo & Beakdoctor are the same person 😂
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Mentzer hoisting the Sandow statue after defeating Arnold at the 1980 Olympia
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Mentzer hoisting the Sandow statue in his "DREAMS" after defeating Arnold at the 1980 Olympia
Meanwhile.... ;D
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7X Mr Olympia
Inspired many from Ronnie to Dorian, all over the world
Mention mentzer majority will say “who???”
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Arnold_Schwarzenegger_1974.jpg/800px-Arnold_Schwarzenegger_1974.jpg)
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Mentzer won
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^^^ No, he didn't even come in 4th.
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Waller: “Arnold you look like a pussy right now”
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Arnold had mentzer in tears, he got in his head and never left, like arnold said, he wasn't about to fight mentzer, that's not going to help win the contest
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Arnold won
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Yeah, ol Mike really got the better of that exchange.
Arnold: you look like a fat fuck
Mike: gets mad, points finger, loses show, loses mind, dies broke trying to peddle worthless training advice to stooges like Royalty.
Arnold wins, goes on to Hollywood fame, real estate fame, financial wealth beyond mentzers wildest meth induced psychotic dreams, governator, etc....etc...
Yep. Mike really showed Arnold. Mike had him just wear he wanted him.
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Mentzer: “Sit down you twerp”
Arnold did as he was told
Waller lost all respect for Arnold
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The most famous "finger wagging " in history ultimately cost mentzer his career, his sanity and his life. I'm sure it was worth it.
Ironically the thread is turning out the same way for Royalty. You can see his sanity diminishing with each additional post.
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Highlights of the 1980 Olympia:
Arnold cheated by stepping over the line, Arnold was demolished on the side chest pose by Mentzer, Arnold had the worst rear double bicep pose in history, Mentzer intimidated Arnold backstage, and Arnold was high on cocaine during the entire contest.
Netflix did not consider Arnold to be the winner in 1980.
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Highlights of the 1980 Olympia:
Arnold cheated by stepping over the line, Arnold was demolished on the side chest pose by Mentzer, Arnold had the worst rear double bicep pose in history, Mentzer intimidated Arnold backstage, and Arnold was high on cocaine during the entire contest.
Netflix did not consider Arnold to be the winner in 1980.
Hey Royalty,
What's the goal here really? I mean are you delusional enough to think we will cave and agree with your belief Methnzer deserved to win? 1+1=2 saying 1+1=3 over and over does not make it so. I mean that's how the libturds work things out, the general public are in fact stupid enough to fall for it. Is it your hope we all do the same?
Surely your trolling. Not one champion bodybuilder became one using Mike Methzners methods. There are no champion HIT bodybuilders, as there are no well built head turning natural physiques in everyday life that train strictly with hit.
Mike lost everything in his life, he lost his ability to compete, arnold destroyed him. He lost his girlfriend, his job with weider, his mind, his friends, then ultimately he lost his life as he slipped slowly I to madness. Died a fat drug added delusional 49 year young man. Clearly he was not.someone to take advice from.
You must be trolling 🧌
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Highlights of the 1980 Olympia:
Arnold cheated by stepping over the line, Arnold was demolished on the side chest pose by Mentzer, Arnold had the worst rear double bicep pose in history, Mentzer intimidated Arnold backstage, and Arnold was high on cocaine during the entire contest.
Netflix did not consider Arnold to be the winner in 1980.
Netflix did not consider Mentzer at all.
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Arnold’s lawyers threatened to bring a lawsuit against Netflix if Mentzer’s name was mentioned. Arnold was paranoid that ‘Mentzer-Mania’ might break out if Mentzer’s name was revealed.
This would be especially damaging to Arnold’s image because the average American now considers Arnold to be an evil bitch.
Even people in Africa are spontaneously drop kicking Arnold.
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Old School Labs stole Mentzer’s image and they made millions 💲
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Lets discuss placings 2,3 and 4.
It's fairly unanimous that Coe was better than mentzer
Pretty clear that an anemic Zane is light years ahead of mentzer.
I never saw Dickerson as being all that great but even still I give him more credit than most. Here I think Dickerson has better legs than mentzer by a slim margin. Both had odd abs but Illgive the edge to mike. Neither had a great chest but Chris had more muscle in his chest but it was torn. Though in 1980 chris's chest was still symmetrical. Mentzer had good chest shape but was flat in 80. Ill say chest is even. Arms go to mike. Shoulders are also close. Chris's back was miles ahead of mike. So in 1980 Dickerson gets the nod over mike too.
Yep. Mike was a deserving 5th. My guess is walker and Callender deserved to place higher than mike.
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Old School Labs stole Roger Callard's image and they made millions 💲
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Probably is Callard. Either way Old School Labs is aptly named. It's shit is so weak and under dosed it poses no threat to the aging hypertensive boomer - gen xer. Its also so over priced only a boomer - gen xer could aford it.
Maybe its appropriate to have a fraud like mentzer as the mascot given that they're taking advantage of chumps
like Royalty.
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Anyway,
Coe > mentzer
Zane > mentzer
Dickerson > mentzer
Callender > mentzer
Walker (only 80) > mentzer
Tinnerino (80) > mentzer
Viator 》》》mentzer
Beakdoctor and all gimmick accounts herein and herein contained, et cetera, et cetera...Fax mentis incendium gloria cultum,et cetera, et cetera...Memo bis punitor delicatum. Is much much GREATER THAN Royal gobstopper. It's all there, black and white, clear as crystal.
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▫️ it was confirmed as Roger Callard. Not methzer.
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Lets discuss placings 2,3 and 4.
It's fairly unanimous that Coe was better than mentzer
Pretty clear that an anemic Zane is light years ahead of mentzer.
I never saw Dickerson as being all that great but even still I give him more credit than most. Here I think Dickerson has better legs than mentzer by a slim margin. Both had odd abs but Illgive the edge to mike. Neither had a great chest but Chris had more muscle in his chest but it was torn. Though in 1980 chris's chest was still symmetrical. Mentzer had good chest shape but was flat in 80. Ill say chest is even. Arms go to mike. Shoulders are also close. Chris's back was miles ahead of mike. So in 1980 Dickerson gets the nod over mike too.
Yep. Mike was a deserving 5th. My guess is walker and Callender deserved to place higher than mike.
Yep, Walker had a much better argument for a higher placing than Mike.
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Anyway,
Coe > mentzer
Zane > mentzer
Dickerson > mentzer
Callender > mentzer
Walker (only 80) > mentzer
Tinnerino (80) > mentzer
Viator 》》》mentzer
Beakdoctor and all gimmick accounts herein and herein contained, et cetera, et cetera...Fax mentis incendium gloria cultum,et cetera, et cetera...Memo bis punitor delicatum. Is much much GREATER THAN Royal gobstopper. It's all there, black and white, clear as crystal.
ehhh just no....
And don't forget Mentzer was the runner up and predicted by many(most) to win as previous year he got second to Frank Zane. He won the heavy weight but lost the overall to Zane.
The Perfect 300 score Physique!
(https://preview.redd.it/1979-mr-olympia-mike-mentzer-v0-ug42pu5ggla91.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=b9e67ea10155eda4373337f34e9d0bc4b93f22d5)
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ehhh just yes....
And don't forget methtzer was the runner up and predicted by nobody to win as previous year he got second to Frank Zane. He won the heavy weight, which doesn't mean anything, but lost big time to Zane.
The imperfect 300 score Physique!
(https://preview.redd.it/1979-mr-olympia-mike-mentzer-v0-ug42pu5ggla91.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=b9e67ea10155eda4373337f34e9d0bc4b93f22d5)
Bodybuilding scores are rankings, having a perfect score means a judge agrees you were the best bodybuilder at that show, not that your physique is perfect. If someone that placed 2nd to 6th at the Olympia turned up at some no name backwater pro show, they'd be more or less guaranteed to get a perfect score. If someone is unanimously agreed to have the best physique in the novice category at an amateur show, they will get a perfect score. That doesn't mean 2nd to 6th at the Olympia or a random amateur has a better a physique than a Mr Olympia that won without a perfect score, it means means they were unanimously agreed to be the best at a less competitive show. And methzer didn't receive a perfect score at the 79 Olympia, he received a perfect score in the heavyweight division of the 79 Olympia, meaning some judges merely agreed he was the best heavyweight not the best overall bodybuilder. So there.
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ehhh just no....
And don't forget Mentzer was the runner up and predicted by many(most) to win as previous year he got second to Frank Zane. He won the heavy weight but lost the overall to Zane.
The Perfect 300 score Physique!
(https://preview.redd.it/1979-mr-olympia-mike-mentzer-v0-ug42pu5ggla91.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=b9e67ea10155eda4373337f34e9d0bc4b93f22d5)
This is the odd part of this whole discussion.
The Hittites- "80 was bogus. Mentzer should have won blah blah blah judge were corrupt, all Arnolds friends blah blahblah..."
Then there is considerable debate between the Arnold camp and the Mentzer camp.
The Hittites inevitably point to Mentzers greatness by pointing out that judges awarded him a perfect score.
So when Mike loses it's because the judges are all corrupt and in Arnolds back pocket...when mike wins with a perfect score it's indisputable proof of his greatness. There's suddenly no mention of the judging???
I agree: Mike looked great at the USA vs. The World (thats where the pic is from. He actually looked less sharp when he got the perfect score at the universe)
I also agree: Arnold won in 80 and Mike was 5th.
Can't have it both ways.....well you can but its just hypocritical and diminishes your credibility.
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OUCH
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OUCH... small wonder meth head lost to Arnold, Dickerson, Zane, Coe.
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This is the odd part of this whole discussion.
The Hittites- "80 was bogus. Mentzer should have won blah blah blah judge were corrupt, all Arnolds friends blah blahblah..."
Then there is considerable debate between the Arnold camp and the Mentzer camp.
The Hittites inevitably point to Mentzers greatness by pointing out that judges awarded him a perfect score.
So when Mike loses it's because the judges are all corrupt and in Arnolds back pocket...when mike wins with a perfect score it's indisputable proof of his greatness. There's suddenly no mention of the judging???
I agree: Mike looked great at the USA vs. The World (thats where the pic is from. He actually looked less sharp when he got the perfect score at the universe)
I also agree: Arnold won in 80 and Mike was 5th.
Can't have it both ways.....well you can but its just hypocritical and diminishes your credibility.
I see there's no addressing the bolded text. Figures.
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ehhh just no....
John Little trying so hard to revise history again.
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John Little trying so hard to revise history again.
"So when Mike loses it's because the judges are all corrupt and in Arnolds back pocket...when mike wins with a perfect score it's indisputable proof of his greatness. There's suddenly no mention of the judging???"
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Mentzer is genetically superior
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Arnold is genetically superior
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"So when Mike loses it's because the judges are all corrupt and in Arnolds back pocket...when mike wins with a perfect score it's indisputable proof of his greatness. There's suddenly no mention of the judging???"
This applies to many bodybuilders who cry "a fix because of politics" when they don't get their way. Yet when they do place 1st they never mention a fix or politics. A lot of bodybuilders have very fragile egos so when they don't get a placing they think theh deserve they blame politics or the judging or it was all a fix. None of thst is true. They lost because they simply weren't good enough. That's all.
methzer was delusional. He really thought he was going to beat Arnold Schwarzenegger, a genetically superior bodybuilder to the mamlet methzer, despite the fact that he couldn't even told Frank Zane. There was no way meth head was going to come in the olympia in 1980 and top both Arnold and Zane. That was just never going to happen. 4 superior bodybuilders placed before methzer and his fragile ego couldn't handle it. He breaks down and quits bodybuilding forever. He showed everybody that night what a WEAK minded person he really was. That night haunted him for the rest of his days. Instead of accepting defeat he whined about it, blaming the judges being in Arnold's back pocket and other such nonsense but never ever taking responsibility for his own failures.
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This is the odd part of this whole discussion.
The Hittites- "80 was bogus. Mentzer should have won blah blah blah judge were corrupt, all Arnolds friends blah blahblah..."
Then there is considerable debate between the Arnold camp and the Mentzer camp.
The Hittites inevitably point to Mentzers greatness by pointing out that judges awarded him a perfect score.
So when Mike loses it's because the judges are all corrupt and in Arnolds back pocket...when mike wins with a perfect score it's indisputable proof of his greatness. There's suddenly no mention of the judging???
I agree: Mike looked great at the USA vs. The World (thats where the pic is from. He actually looked less sharp when he got the perfect score at the universe)
I also agree: Arnold won in 80 and Mike was 5th.
Can't have it both ways.....well you can but its just hypocritical and diminishes your credibility.
Great point about the judging.
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It's actually fairly obvious how easily Arnold's winning these comparisons. He had the overwhelming size and just enough conditioning.
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Arnold got smoked by Mentzer
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Arnold got smoked by Mentzer
Arnold smokes this manlet into oblivion
ARNOLD MR OLYMPIA 7 TIMES
Mike Menthol Mr Olympia. 0 (zero) times
It's a historical fact.
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Arnold’s legs were trash
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Arnold’s legs were trash
Arnold Mr Olympia 7 times
Mike Menthol Mr Olympia 0 (zero) times
These are historical facts that cannot be denied
History revionist with shitty side by side photos
Take a look at the overlays of Arnold with Mike
Mike is absolutely a manlet dwarf on all fronts compared to an 75% Arnold
Menthol never stood a chance
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Arnold got smoked by Mentzer
Mentzer had a fat belly and blew the 79 olympioa
Mentzer blew his temper and lost the 80 olympia
Mentzer blew his sanity and lost his mind
Mentzer blew his dope dealer in exchange for methamphetamine.
Mentzer blew his health and died alone
The only person who offered to come to his aid was Arnold
The bitter irony of it blew Mentzers will to live
Rotalty begs for more beakdoctor pictures so he can blow himself....
...Creepy fuck emulating his hero.
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Arnold Mr Olympia 7 times
Mike Menthol Mr Olympia 0 (zero) times
These are historical facts that cannot be denied
History revionist with shitty side by side photos
Take a look at the overlays of Arnold with Mike
Mike is absolutely a manlet dwarf on all fronts compared to an 75% Arnold
Menthol never stood a chance
Mentzer had a fat belly and blew the 79 olympioa
Mentzer blew his temper and lost the 80 olympia
Mentzer blew his sanity and lost his mind
Mentzer blew his dope dealer in exchange for methamphetamine.
Mentzer blew his health and died alone
The only person who offered to come to his aid was Arnold
The bitter irony of it blew Mentzers will to live
Rotalty begs for more beakdoctor pictures so he can blow himself....
...Creepy fuck emulating his hero.
Hi RMJ11
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Hi RMJ11
Unbelievable yet true, you are actually dumber than your posts
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Unbelievable yet true, you are actually dumber than your posts
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:)
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It's actually fairly obvious how easily Arnold's winning these comparisons. He had the overwhelming size and just enough conditioning.
Yep, he was wayyy better. Mentzer looked like a tiny tit next to the Austrian Oak.
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(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=1492589;image)
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=1492591;image)
The second pic looks like Chris is the best of the three, proportion condition wise.
The top pic Arnold (pumping backstage) he clearly wins ..... but that was taken in 1974.
WoooSHHHHHHHHH Oct.4 1980
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Mentzer kicked everyone’s ass in 1980.
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Mentzer kicked everyone’s ass in 1980.
Kicked everyone's ass in 1980 yet they forgot to give him the Title, the Trophy, the money, and mark his score card as the winner. Funny that
These historical facts just keep getting in your way. No matter how many times you say, post or hear it....the facts state otherwise.
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Mentzer’s key to his 1980 dominance was training harder and smarter than everyone else. Mentzer set a new standard.
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Mentzer was a narrow small manlet and the gay moustache didnt make for a good magazine cover look
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Just for a moment. Imagine it's 2025. Derek lunsford is in his best shape ever heading into the Olympia. There's a lot riding on the line because there's chatter that the Olympia is going to be moved to Dubai in the near future. In order to generate interest the rumor is Big Ramy is going to do color commentary for Al Jazeera.
Unfortunately, due to a freak accident involving a dirty syringe and a lawn chair, Lunsfords armpits explode. Derek calls big Ramy for advice. He says: Mamdoh, you once won the Olympia with pits in your thighs, do you think I can win with no pits at all? Big Ramy shrewdly replies "Matt Damon! Jerka jerka Muhammad jihad jerka!"
Derek takes Ramys advice and to everyones surprise a downsized Ramy shows up an enters the contest at the last minute Ramy uses all of his mind tricks to psyche out the competetion. Rumor is prior to the show at a secret athletes meeting Ramy infuriates the competitors by insisting everybody compete in one large open division including wheelchair, classic, physique, ms. Olympia. Nick Walker gets particularly frustrated at this level of stupidity and snaps his hamstring in two while lunging at Ramy in a moment of anger.
Then, a laclustre Ramy wins the Olympia in a controversial contest. The crowd boos loudly as Ramy takes to tge podium and says: Maaattt Damon! Jerka jerka Muhammad jihad jerka". Hadi Choopan is so heartbroken he smashes his trophy, Samson Duada is so pissed and dejected he retires from the sport and becomes a vagrant on the streets of Dubai. Reps from Al Jazeera release a statement, in between broadcasting war crimes in Ukraine and torture scenes from the gaza strip, that Dubai will not host the Mr.Olympia because "It's just too controversial."
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Mentzer kicked everyone’s ass in 1980.
:D Sure he did. All except the top 4.
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Mentzer overpowered the line-up and he humiliated Schwarzenegger.
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ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER overpowered the line-up and he humiliated Mike Menthol
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The standard RMJ11 quote change ^^^
PS: Hi RMJ11
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Unfortunately, due to a freak accident involving a dirty syringe and a lawn chair, Lunsfords armpits explode. Derek calls big Ramy for advice. He says: Mamdoh, you once won the Olympia with pits in your thighs, do you think I can win with no pits at all? Big Ramy shrewdly replies "Matt Damon! Jerka jerka Muhammad jihad jerka!"
Rotflmao!
That's damned funny :)
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Rotflmao!
That's damned funny :)
Actually it’s not funny
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Mentzer overpowered the line-up and he humiliated Schwarzenegger.
Why did he quit? Arnold went on to make millions of dollars, become a Hollywood superstar and governor of California. Mike went crazy, was institutionalized and later became an alcoholic, chain smoking personal trainer.
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Mentzer had better genetics than Arnold.
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WooSHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Arnold’s 17” arms were no match for Mentzer’s 22” Winchester’s
(And Arnold’s bitch ass was closer to the camera too)
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Actually it’s not funny
Sorry to differ with you :(
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Arnold’s 17” arms were no match for Mentzer’s 22” Winchester’s
(And Arnold’s bitch ass was closer to the camera too)
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH 10.4.80
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Arnold looked like shit in ‘80
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Mentzer’s 22” cannon
Vs
Arnold’s 17” BB gun
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Mike's arm circumference is now 2inches as he died for all the HIT bitches after years of gulping down quarts of his own piss.
He now lies in a pine box with his piss stained mason jar, a pack of Marlboros, and a copy of Ayn Rands "Atlas Chugged"
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^^^
Pet Shop Boys quickly logged into his Eric2 aka RMJ11 account.
Army of One gimmicks keep getting exposed 😂
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Roy watched Arnold become a bitch as he desperately stepped way ahead of the line.
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Roy watched Arnold become a bitch as he desperately stepped way ahead of the line.
Roy was noticing Arnold's huge Germanic cock and was aghast at how much larger and better the Austrians arms where over his own African genes
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Roy was noticing Arnold's huge Germanic cock and was aghast at how much larger and better the Austrians arms where over his own African genes
Arnold has a cock?
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Arnold has a cock?
If you’re one of those HeavyDuty Mentzers fan, You’re feeding the stigma perfectly.
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Mentzer had better genetics than Arnold.
He sure didn't do anything with them.
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He sure didn't do anything with them.
Yeah he did, he used his genius IQ to rip off Arthur Jones HIT ideas and call it Heavy Duty.
It's amazing the cult-like following Mike has. Padilla, Coe, Calendar, Robinson, Zane, Bannout all have there fans, but not the obsession of Mentzer fans. Even uniquely popular guys like Platz or even Ferrigno who are both really well known bodybuilders don't have psycho fans like Mike.
When you stop and think about it the biggest for Mike's popularity IS losing to Arnold (and throwing a tantrum) otherwise he wouldn't have the enduring popularity that he does.
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Mentzer beat Arnold on: triceps, biceps, legs, back, abs, neck, dick, calves, pecs, traps, delts, glutes, hands, forearms, over all conditioning
The only areas that Arnold truly shined was: loose skin, prolapsed rectum, and camel toe.
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Mike menzter never won the Olympia get over it. Also..........HIT sucks...
https://nattyornot.com/mike-mentzers-heavy-duty-workout-sucks-naturals/
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Arnold was desperate to be like Mike
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Dude, let it rest
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Camel Toe
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Mike menzter never won the Olympia get over it. Also..........HIT sucks...
https://nattyornot.com/mike-mentzers-heavy-duty-workout-sucks-naturals/
Love that website. His articles create meltdowns.
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Love that website. His articles create meltdowns.
You haven’t been using your RMJ11 account lately.
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Arnold losing badly here
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The film footage that CBS never released was actually “Camel Toe” footage.
After Arnold did 2 lines of cocaine at the 1980 Olympia, he put on his posing trunks...
The CBS film crew’s cameras recorded what appeared to be a “HOOF PRINT” in Arnold posing trunks. This gave Arnold a “dickless” appearance.
Mentzer pointed directly at the “hoof print” backstage. Arnold crossed his legs and changed the subject.
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Roy eyed the “hoof print” during the prejudging
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Mohamed Makkawy did a tribute to Arnold’s camel toe.
(Arnold was furious)
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Arnie used Paco Arse's Arse as a dick-shelf...
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My is this Royalty thing so in love with methead mike? I know he says all this shit just to get people to argue. But why? Can anyone explain to me why people like Royalty and dj and a few others always want to do that? It makes no sense. I don't pay much attention to this character but I have noticed he will try to argue always. Constantly saying negative things hoping someone will take the bait. But Why?
Ever notice people will argue even when they are dead wrong thinking if they say enough people will believe them ( like democrats do) . I learned a long time ago to not argue unless I am 100% right. I don't want to look stupid like these clowns. Even when I am right and try to prove I am right I don't keep trying for long because your never gonna fix stupid so why should I keep trying? My sisters always accuse me of being a "no it all". I say nope not even close. I just don't argue unless I am right.
Like saying mentzer beat Arnold . Everyone knows who knows real bodybuilding Arnold was in fact better than all them. It was closer than Arnold was used to for sure. He was not as dominate . So if you compare 1980 version to previous versions he didn't look as good. No doubt about it. BUT he was still better than everyone else. Mentzer was given a gift that day as he was in all the other contests too. Case closed. Move on from 1980. It is over Arnold won became what he is today and Methead became what he is today. A corpse. I can see his treatment in hell right now. Telling the devil to only burn him a little bit each week because he doesnt want to "over burn".
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My is this Royalty thing so in love with methead mike? I know he says all this shit just to get people to argue. But why? Can anyone explain to me why people like Royalty and dj and a few others always want to do that? It makes no sense. I don't pay much attention to this character but I have noticed he will try to argue always. Constantly saying negative things hoping someone will take the bait. But Why?
Ever notice people will argue even when they are dead wrong thinking if they say enough people will believe them ( like democrats do) . I learned a long time ago to not argue unless I am 100% right. I don't want to look stupid like these clowns. Even when I am right and try to prove I am right I don't keep trying for long because your never gonna fix stupid so why should I keep trying? My sisters always accuse me of being a "no it all". I say nope not even close. I just don't argue unless I am right.
Like saying mentzer beat Arnold . Everyone knows who knows real bodybuilding Arnold was in fact better than all them. It was closer than Arnold was used to for sure. He was not as dominate . So if you compare 1980 version to previous versions he didn't look as good. No doubt about it. BUT he was still better than everyone else. Mentzer was given a gift that day as he was in all the other contests too. Case closed. Move on from 1980. It is over Arnold won became what he is today and Methead became what he is today. A corpse. I can see his treatment in hell right now. Telling the devil to only burn him a little bit each week because he doesnt want to "over burn".
Your correct about his need for baiting people into an argument. I've replied more times to his lunacy than I should have. I'm going to let him continue on. Hopefully others will no longer take the bait and he will see how strange his posts have become.
Mike was a better bodybuilder than any of us on the boards could aspire to. Yet the obsession with the 1980 is a sad pathetic waste of time. Even if Arnold cheated that day even if .Ike was better yet still lost. To what avail is Royalty and others obsession with discussing this any further. History will always show Arnold as the winner. Get over it move on find something positive to round out your day. We all know how Mike spiraled into depression ND drug abuse due to this very behavior.
Arnold won and was always going to
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My is this Royalty thing so in love with methead mike? I know he says all this shit just to get people to argue. But why? Can anyone explain to me why people like Royalty and dj and a few others always want to do that? It makes no sense. I don't pay much attention to this character but I have noticed he will try to argue always. Constantly saying negative things hoping someone will take the bait. But Why?
Ever notice people will argue even when they are dead wrong thinking if they say enough people will believe them ( like democrats do) . I learned a long time ago to not argue unless I am 100% right. I don't want to look stupid like these clowns. Even when I am right and try to prove I am right I don't keep trying for long because your never gonna fix stupid so why should I keep trying? My sisters always accuse me of being a "no it all". I say nope not even close. I just don't argue unless I am right.
Like saying mentzer beat Arnold . Everyone knows who knows real bodybuilding Arnold was in fact better than all them. It was closer than Arnold was used to for sure. He was not as dominate . So if you compare 1980 version to previous versions he didn't look as good. No doubt about it. BUT he was still better than everyone else. Mentzer was given a gift that day as he was in all the other contests too. Case closed. Move on from 1980. It is over Arnold won became what he is today and Methead became what he is today. A corpse. I can see his treatment in hell right now. Telling the devil to only burn him a little bit each week because he doesnt want to "over burn".
Another extremely long “explanation” from Beakdoctor 😂
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Your correct about his need for baiting people into an argument. I've replied more times to his lunacy than I should have. I'm going to let him continue on. Hopefully others will no longer take the bait and he will see how strange his posts have become.
Mike was a better bodybuilder than any of us on the boards could aspire to. Yet the obsession with the 1980 is a sad pathetic waste of time. Even if Arnold cheated that day even if .Ike was better yet still lost. To what avail is Royalty and others obsession with discussing this any further. History will always show Arnold as the winner. Get over it move on find something positive to round out your day. We all know how Mike spiraled into depression ND drug abuse due to this very behavior.
Arnold won and was always going to
You’re the one who felt the need to attack Mentzer for MONTHS
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My last response to you regarding your obsession with Mike Mentzer.
You where literally just suspended for spamming the entire board for weeks on end with all things Mentzer. Your suspension ends and here you are again.....back at it.
You think I am a fake account or post as someone else, wrong again. Mods know this. Get over your Mentzer addiction. Move on to something useful and constructive or you will wind up miserable like Mike Mentzer became. Go outside get some fresh air find something else to do than bait people into these silly arguments. I just admitted was taking your bait prior. I was only responding to your ridiculous assements of theb1980. No longer I am done. I've been on this board since 2004 and I have a fairly low post count. You've been hammering out your life on this board maybe you need a break
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My last response to you regarding your obsession with Mike Mentzer.
You where literally just suspended for spamming the entire board for weeks on end with all things Mentzer. Your suspension ends and here you are again.....back at it.
You think I am a fake account or post as someone else, wrong again. Mods know this. Get over your Mentzer addiction. Move on to something useful and constructive or you will wind up miserable like Mike Mentzer became. Go outside get some fresh air find something else to do than bait people into these silly arguments. I just admitted was taking your bait prior. I was only responding to your ridiculous assements of theb1980. No longer I am done. I've been on this board since 2005 and I have a fairly low post count. You've been hammering out your life on this board maybe you need a break
Read your mile long posts. I think you need the break. 😂
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My last response to you regarding your obsession with Mike Mentzer.
You where literally just suspended for spamming the entire board for weeks on end with all things Mentzer. Your suspension ends and here you are again.....back at it.
You think I am a fake account or post as someone else, wrong again. Mods know this. Get over your Mentzer addiction. Move on to something useful and constructive or you will wind up miserable like Mike Mentzer became. Go outside get some fresh air find something else to do than bait people into these silly arguments. I just admitted was taking your bait prior. I was only responding to your ridiculous assements of theb1980. No longer I am done. I've been on this board since 2004 and I have a fairly low post count. You've been hammering out your life on this board maybe you need a break
Good points. Royalty is a Royal asshole.
You're right: to what end does he bring this up? Nothing is ever going to change the result. For arguments sake, even if Arnold wete to give the title back and renounce his claim; Chris Dickerson would then be the winner.
Is it validation? He's just going to go on arguing with people to try and make them agree, one by one? Or what?
Also continuously bringing it up invites the criticism of Mentzer. Ex: if he constantly says Arnold was a coke head and imply he did G4P to advance his career, it's just too easy to bring up Mike's actual homosexuality and drug abuse... but it's really sad and gross. People who actually knew Mike when he was younger say he was a really good person. Let the man rest in peace. Stop obsessing over it.
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Beakdoctor has severe mental illness ^^^ yet again.... responding to another one of his gimmick accounts
The famous Eric2
Who?
Eric2 LOL
For some reason RMJ11 has completely stopped posting. But don’t worry Eric2 has already changed some of my quotes the exact way that RMJ11 was changing them...
😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Good points. Royalty is a Royal asshole.
You're right: to what end does he bring this up? Nothing is ever going to change the result. For arguments sake, even if Arnold wete to give the title back and renounce his claim; Chris Dickerson would then be the winner.
Is it validation? He's just going to go on arguing with people to try and make them agree, one by one? Or what?
Also continuously bringing it up invites the criticism of Mentzer. Ex: if he constantly says Arnold was a coke head and imply he did G4P to advance his career, it's just too easy to bring up Mike's actual homosexuality and drug abuse... but it's really sad and gross. People who actually knew Mike when he was younger say he was a really good person. Let the man rest in peace. Stop obsessing over it.
Royal Asshat is just trolling. He doesn't believe any of it.
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Mentzer won
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Mentzer had thicker arms
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LMFAO At least Mike could say he competed with Arnold ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Mentzer came in fifth, not fourth, not third or second. Arnold at 80% was still the winner from my conclusion watching the tapes and not still pictures. Yes, in this subjective sport nothing is a mathematical certainty picking a winner. If Arnold came in his 1974 or 1975 version there would be zero discussion.
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Everyone argues about Arnold winning the 1980 Olympia. Yes, but what about the judging? We all underestimated Arnold when he arrived in Los Angeles. He was much smarter than he seemed. His former house mate, Paul Graham, was the promoter of the contest. Arnold was living with Paul and Ken Moran somewhere near Vince's Gym in Studio City. In Arnold's autobiography, Total Recall, he twice mentions driving cars to a dock in LA that were being shipped to Australia. Paul Graham's name wasn't mentioned because he was arrested in early 1969 in Honolulu by the FBI for sending stolen cars out of the USA. We wonder how Arnold's house mates were overlooked by the FBI. Paul was convicted and spent a couple years in a federal prison. He took the rap by himself. So Arnold owes Paul big time. Ken Moran arrived in Vancouver, BC, driving a red 350 Shelby Mustang. He boasted that he lived with Arnold. We asked him why he wasn't still there. He explained that he was in an accident and didn't have insurance so had to leave the country. How then did he get that almost new Mustang? He eventually took that car to New Zealand where it was worth a small fortune...enough to buy a house with in those days.
In 1980 our gym sold 200 tickets to that contest at $35 each. About a month out from the contest Paul told me Arnold was entering. He was pleased I kept coming to his house in Bondi Junction to collect more tickets. Naturally I could sell more if Arnold was competing. Paul and I had a bitter history in Australia about judging contests we were in. There was a trophy for the best support gym but he didn't present it at the contest. No way he was going to give me any recognition. There was a meeting shortly after the Olympia at our gym where bodybuilders decided to form a new organization. We decided to send the trophy our gym won to Chris Dickerson. The caption read, "Chris Dickerson, Mr Olympia 1980, from the bodybuilders of Australia. John Doyle took it over and presented it to Chris. Chris never said anything about getting that trophy.
So, there was Arnold in 1980 needing more publicity to help him get roles in movies. He wasn't happy in 1979 when he interviewed Frank Zane. He asked Frank if winning the Olympia for the third time was the biggest thrill of his life. Frank replied that beating Arnold in 1968 for Mr Universe in Miami was a bigger thrill! The look on Arnold's face was classic. Not often someone gets the better of Arnold like that.
About the judging. Paul had picked Brendan Ryan and Peter McCarthy as Australian judges. Peter had won Mr Australia and several other big titles in the area. Brendan won a Junior Mr Australia title. He had stayed at Arnold's place in LA so was mates with Arnold. I was standing with Peter and Frank Burwash in the foyer of the Opera House before the contest. Someone came up to Peter and told him the judge's meeting had already started. Peter swore and ran off to the meeting. Someone had told him the wrong time! Because Peter had missed part of the meeting he wasn't allowed to judge so was replaced by Dr Michael Walczak. Arnold didn't enter until he knew he had the support of most of the judges. He was mates with Dan Howard but Dan didn't vote for him. Brendan did. Peter didn't. So, had Peter judged the result would have been closer.
Ben Weider wanted to get bodybuilding into the Olympic Games. So he devised a judging system similar to other sports such as diving and gymnastics. There were 3 rounds then a pose down. Standing relaxed, standard poses, then routine. Finally comparisons were made standing and standard poses. At the finals a pose down was held that was scored. How on earth that could be judged was a mystery. Critics have concluded it was included so that errant judges had a chance to correct their decisions. If any judge deviated too much from the other judges he was considered unsatisfactory and wasn't allowed to judge again.
In the first call out Arnold wasn't included. There he was with his head down behind a grinning Mike Mentzer. That photo told the story. However, Arnold was included in subsequent call outs and he did every thing he could to bring attention to himself. He was warned a couple of times not to do things but he wasn't marked down for them. Like doing a biceps pose during the triceps pose. And doing a most muscular before leaving the stage. Frank and Chris didn't look so good beside Arnold in the comparisons. Arnold's huge arms and chest made them look like beginners.
By the way, they scored each round out of 20 points. What happened was too many judges gave 20 scores so they didn't separate the competitors. Those who did separate them had more weight in the placings. Brendan did separate them so his scores counted for more than those who gave several competitors a 20 score.
Yes, the contest was close. Mike looked the best in the photo I took that made the cover of IronMan. Boyer Coe had a flawless routine. Chris gave an artistic display that was popular with the audience. Dennis was the most conditioned bodybuilder there with the best abs and probably the widest. Roger Walker didn't look small beside Arnold. Danny Padilla wasn't compared that I remember but had the most complete physique and was huge as well. In an objective contest he would have been the winner but because he was short he wasn't even considered which is a shame. I can tell you the audience booed loud and long when the winner was announced! Eventually they did applaud Arnold but I bet that was the first time he was booed like that.
The reason this contest is still being discussed is because of the reasons I mention above. It isn't a waste of time. Just because someone wins a contest doesn't mean he was the best there.
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Mike may have looked the best in 1 photo you took but he was not even close to the best.
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Mentzer came in fifth, not fourth, not third or second. Arnold at 80% was still the winner from my conclusion watching the tapes and not still pictures. Yes, in this subjective sport nothing is a mathematical certainty picking a winner. If Arnold came in his 1974 or 1975 version there would be zero discussion.
The CBS footage might suggest otherwise.
WooooSHHHHHHHHHH OCt.4th 1980
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Mentzer definitely won in ‘80
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The Record books will forever state that Arnold won his 7th Mr Olympia title.
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Mentzer definitely won in ‘80
:D Won 5th place and that was a gift.
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It was an easy win for Mentzer
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The Record books will forever state that Arnold won his 7th Mr Olympia title.
Just like Biden "won" the election.
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Who did this documentary ?
Actually did a great job.....
Was it a Getbigger ?
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH Oct. 4th 1980
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Who did this documentary ?
Actually did a great job.....
Was it a Getbigger ?
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH Oct. 4th 1980
John Little. He was pretty close friend to Mike.
But yes he seems talented in video editing, making docus too. Ha made one on Bruce Lee and others. And he's an author wrote books and articles many things..
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Hard to criticize Mike's physique in 1980. The whole show was a travesty.
I wrote an article about the judging at that contest but no magazine would publish it. I finally gave it to Mike at Gold's Gym in 1991.
I remember after the contest that it was hard to know where to place Arnold. Sergio and Arnold dominated bodybuilding from 1967 until the late seventies.
The judging process with those silly rounds contributed to the controversy. NABBA had already developed an excellent process but Ben Weider tried to
impress the Olympic Games officials by having a system similar to ice skating, gymnastics and diving.
What should have happened in 1980 was that after the first competitor was scored in each round the judges committee would meet and give the competitor a corrected score.
For example, if the competitor scored 20 out of 20 it would be adjusted to a lower score to enable a higher score if another competitor surpassed that first competitor. They didn't
do this so what happened was that a judge would give several competitors the same maximum score. That isn't separating the competitors.
The round should have been a guide to select the finalists. Once selected then comparisons would be made and all the finalists placed first, second, third, and so on.
The ugly truth is the selection of judges shouldn't be the responsibility of the promoter. Definite no, no. A committee should select the judges and no one else.
1980 saw Paul Graham promote the Olympia and his former house mate, Arnold, entered secretly. That isn't fair to the others who competed. No wonder so many are pissed off,
and rightly so.
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It was an easy win for Mentzer
Did Mike make enough from his 5th place finish to buy an airline ticket back to America?
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Did Mike make enough from his 5th place finish to buy an airline ticket back to America?
How will you feel when your tiny “old lady hands” are in the center of the Getbig Christmas card? 😂
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How will you feel when your tiny “old lady hands” are in the center of the Getbig Christmas card? 😂
May I see a picture of this card?
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Just like Biden "won" the election.
Yep - Exactly. like it or not.
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Hard to criticize Mike's physique in 1980. The whole show was a travesty.
I wrote an article about the judging at that contest but no magazine would publish it. I finally gave it to Mike at Gold's Gym in 1991.
I remember after the contest that it was hard to know where to place Arnold. Sergio and Arnold dominated bodybuilding from 1967 until the late seventies.
The judging process with those silly rounds contributed to the controversy. NABBA had already developed an excellent process but Ben Weider tried to
impress the Olympic Games officials by having a system similar to ice skating, gymnastics and diving.
What should have happened in 1980 was that after the first competitor was scored in each round the judges committee would meet and give the competitor a corrected score.
For example, if the competitor scored 20 out of 20 it would be adjusted to a lower score to enable a higher score if another competitor surpassed that first competitor. They didn't
do this so what happened was that a judge would give several competitors the same maximum score. That isn't separating the competitors.
The round should have been a guide to select the finalists. Once selected then comparisons would be made and all the finalists placed first, second, third, and so on.
The ugly truth is the selection of judges shouldn't be the responsibility of the promoter. Definite no, no. A committee should select the judges and no one else.
1980 saw Paul Graham promote the Olympia and his former house mate, Arnold, entered secretly. That isn't fair to the others who competed. No wonder so many are pissed off,
and rightly so.
Great points, but for some reason it seems all linked one way or another to Arnold being so powerful within the industry ....
However, If Arnold was a Rookie/new face pro bodybuilder entering the Olympia for the first time looking the exact same way he did ....
Do you think people would still have as much pain/problem with him winning the show ?
This is exactly why Mr.O 1980 will forever be the most controversial contest in history
WoooooSHHHHHHHH October 4th 1980
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This is exactly why Mr.O 1980 will forever be the most controversial contest in history
WoooooSHHHHHHHH October 4th 1980
Not as controversial as Bev Francis placing 8th in Las Vegas in 1983.
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It's a shame these pics are so blury.
I bet Arnold has all those high quality prints locked somewhere .
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It's a shame these pics are so blury.
I bet Arnold has all those high quality prints locked somewhere .
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Write yourself a note to check on that later... you can use one of your Post-It notes 😂
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Write yourself a note to check on that later... you can use one of your Post-It notes 😂
You still can see Arnold's striations in chest! blury pics and all that Austrian dude was amazing that year ,
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Sydney here we go ....next exit: NETFLIX
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Mike , Did I hurt your feelings ?
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You still can see Arnold's striations in chest! blury pics and all that Austrian dude was amazing that year ,
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Sydney here we go ....next exit: NETFLIX
And Mike's smooth chest with tiny arms.
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Days following the 1980 Olympia most people felt Dickerson should have won it ... Mike wasn't even in the conversation.
But as time went on (years) and people started to accept the reality that Menzter was gone for good .... people slowly started to think/say Mentzer was indeed the real winner.
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHH OCT.4th.1980
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Days following the 1980 Olympia most people felt Dickerson should have won it ... Mike wasn't even in the conversation.
But as time went on (years) and people started to accept the reality that Menzter was gone for good .... people slowly started to think/say Mentzer was indeed the real winner.
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHH OCT.4th.1980
From the Pics & videos Neither of them was worthy of winning,
Hell how did DickInArse get 2nd.
Arnold won - Zane 2nd.
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Days following the 1980 Olympia most people felt Dickerson should have won it ... Mike wasn't even in the conversation.
But as time went on (years) and people started to accept the reality that Menzter was gone for good .... people slowly started to think/say Mentzer was indeed the real winner.
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHH OCT.4th.1980
Mentzer cried about it for 20+ years and people started to "remember" what never actually took place. Good example of the Mandela Effect.
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In this interview Roger Walker indicates that Arnold had a homosexual relationship with the promoter of the 1980 Olympia.
Arnold was then given 1st place (but he deserved to place 9th)
Go to 52:30
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In this interview Roger Walker indicates that Arnold had a homosexual relationship with the promoter of the 1980 Olympia.
Arnold was then given 1st place (but he deserved to place 9th)
Go to 52:30
That excuse that Arnold won because "Homosexual activities" does not help one bit Mentzer or Dickerson in any way or form ..... think about it .
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH The Irony
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Arnold vs. Mike Mentzer in a Super Posedown….who wins?
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Arnold vs. Mike Mentzer in a Super Posedown….who wins?
Depends on the quality of the lens you see it trough.
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 4.10.80
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From the Pics & videos Neither of them was worthy of winning,
Hell how did DickInArse get 2nd.
Arnold won - Zane 2nd.
Who is more lean/balanced?
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Mentzer getting crushed.
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Boyer Coe said that Arnold wasn’t in the top 6.
Roger Walker said that Arnold wasn’t in the top 8.
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Who is more lean/balanced?
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHh
Dickerson
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Arnold’s legs belong on a soccer player or a swimmer
Zero adductors, Almost no sweep
No striations, Poor teardrop development
Just like the rest of the lineup, Dickerson destroyed Arnold’s legs
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Dickerson kicked Arnold’s ass
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Boyer Coe said that Arnold wasn’t in the top 6.
Roger Walker said that Arnold wasn’t in the top 8.
They were a little biased.
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Dickerson was inbeatable and should have won Olympia
1980 and 1981, not 1982.
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Boyer Coe said that Arnold wasn’t in the top 6.
Roger Walker said that Arnold wasn’t in the top 8.
Roger Walker Got carried away being the " crowd favorite the entire show " but then again Roger being Australian and the contest being held in Australia? ......
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH CBS just do it !
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They were a little biased.
You are biased. You are an Arnold fanboy.
They were there.... they saw Arnold’s poor showing first hand.
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Roger Walker Got carried away being the " crowd favorite the entire show " but then again Roger being Australian and the contest being held in Australia? ......
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH CBS just do it !
He was the only one who matched or surpassed Arnold in size. Had in come in a little tighter he could have won. I think he was ripped off at finishing 6th.
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He was the only one who matched or surpassed Arnold in size. Had in come in a little tighter he could have won. I think he was ripped off at finishing 6th.
You weren’t there fan-boy.
All the competitors who competed that day knew that Arnold had a gay sex with the promoter.
Arnold did not deserve to be in the top 6. But he was “given” 1st place.
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You weren’t there fan-boy.
All the competitors who competed that day knew that Arnold had a gay sex with the promoter.
Arnold did not deserve to be in the top 6. But he was “given” 1st place.
Odd none of them has ever mentioned it
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Odd none of them has ever mentioned it
Just look at the people who protested by skipping the 1981 Mr Olympia: Zane, Beckles, Coe, Mentzer.
The word was out about Arnold and his gay relationship with the promoter.
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Just look at the people who protested by skipping the 1981 Mr Olympia: Zane, Beckles, Coe, Mentzer.
The word was out about Arnold and his gay relationship with the promoter.
Arnold also posed naked for schmoes & he was involved with Paul Graham this is pretty much known but like some things just not spoken about.
If Arnold was/is Bi-sexual is his thing but when it involved criminalitate & the promotor of the `80 Mr O was his lover then yes it is an issue.
Paul Graham covered Arnold´s ass in more ways than one :). He (Paul Graham) took the rap for Arnold & must have had feelings for him to do this.
Paul Graham is probably an OK guy to his friends or his lovers & i suppose it shows he´s a loyal man ..even if he was a criminal.
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You weren’t there fan-boy.
All the competitors who competed that day knew that Arnold had a gay sex with the promoter.
Arnold did not deserve to be in the top 6. But he was “given” 1st place.
Bodybuilding is a narcissistic, obsessive compulsive activity I don't know anyone expecting to become a millionaire from it. Lol.
However, By 1980 Arnold was already Ritch and had 6 MrO tittles ..... to think he had to suck some promoters dick to win another show at that point is just plain stupid ....
Especially when you had current top competitors sucking D for free across the IFBB, ;D
WoooSHHHHHHHHHH Oct.4th 1980
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Bodybuilding is a narcissistic, obsessive compulsive activity I don't know anyone expecting to become a millionaire from it. Lol.
However, By 1980 Arnold was already Ritch and had 6 MrO tittles ..... to think he had to suck some promoters dick to win another show at that point is just plain stupid ....
Especially when you had current top competitors sucking D for free across the IFBB, ;D
WoooSHHHHHHHHHH Oct.4th 1980
Arnold´s ego took control of his emotions & thus he had to be No1 so i think there was some activity behind the scenes.
He did not react for no reason.
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You weren’t there fan-boy.
All the competitors who competed that day knew that Arnold had a gay sex with the promoter.
Arnold did not deserve to be in the top 6. But he was “given” 1st place.
I didn't know you promoted that show.
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If it was down to dick sucking then wouldnt Dickerson have been a sure thing?
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If it was down to dick sucking then wouldnt Dickerson have been a sure thing?
Getting ones dick sucked by Dickerson would be a sure thing. Yet getting your dick sucked by Arnold, one whom is perceived ultimate Aplha Male would be a power trip to hold over him. The promoters and Weiders the Master Spackler himself must have had Arnie a few times.
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You weren’t there fan-boy.
All the competitors who competed that day knew that Arnold had a gay sex with the promoter.
Arnold did not deserve to be in the top 6. But he was “given” 1st place.
You bring this up. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't.
Mentzer repeatedly had gay sex with with random junkies for meth.... much like yourself.
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Who is more lean/balanced?
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHh
Certaintly Not The Chimp looking one
with Bulbous Obliques, Torn Pec & droppy pecs, & Zero Biceps
Dangerously Pointy Elbows of Peace.
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH yourself Idiot.
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Paul Graham & Arnold’s romping music
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This video is one clear reason why producers from Hulu, Amazon, Paramount Netflix etc won't touch the 1980 Mr.Olympia controversy.
Here you have the Lion of Lebanon, saying that Arnold didn't deserve to win, after saying Arnold was the deserving champ from 1980 till who knows when lol .... since Weider passed he changed his views?
Same goes for Padilla Platz and who knows who else.
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Oct.4th 1980
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Arnold -- He won.
From the videos & pics Deservedly so.
Those who were there may say different.
Mentzer should of placed higher.
As for Dickerson Getting 2nd.!!
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=948869;image)
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Even Mentzer said he wouldn't be upset if Dickerson won. Dickerson was coming in first or second in every contest he entered in 78,79 and 80.
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Even Mentzer said he wouldn't be upset if Dickerson won. Dickerson was coming in first or second in every contest he entered in 78,79 and 80.
Exactly, at the time no one seemed to have a problem with Chris having momentum winning left and right and being the favorite to dethrone Zane.
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WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHH
The CBS footage will set us free
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FACT: All the top pro’s in attendance in Sydney, including several Mr Olympia winners said that Arnold was not in the top 5
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He looks like he was 6 weeks out 😂
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Mentzer looked 4 weeks overdieted.
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The simple fact Arnold was 6 ft plus, he wins automatically
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The simple fact Arnold was 6 ft plus, he wins automatically
Arnold looked like a glazed donut, and he got fucked in the ass by Paul Graham
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The simple fact Arnold was 6 ft plus, he wins automatically
Certainly didn't hurt.
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Certainly didn't hurt.
Only the ass fucking hurt that day
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Only the ass fucking hurt that day
“Hurts so good
Come on baby,
make it hurt so good
Sometimes love
don't feel like it should
You make it
hurt so good”
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The CBS footage will set us all FREE
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH Oct 4th 1980
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Why can’t Pet Shop Boys see that that a Arnold had fat rolls and tiny legs?
It is obvious to me the he has never attended a bodybuilding show.
But even from his pics that he just posted, anyone can see that Arnold was not the winner
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This direct shot reveals that Arnold was a glazed doughnut
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Why can’t Pet Shop Boys see that that a Arnold had fat rolls and tiny legs?
It is obvious to me the he has never attended a bodybuilding show.
But even from his pics that he just posted, anyone can see that Arnold was not the winner
Yes, there were at least four others should have won instead of Arnold (and Mentzer)
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Yes, there were at least four others should have won instead of Arnold (and Mentzer)
I say go with Dickerson as the winner
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Looks awesome there. That outside pic may be his best ever. Amazing!
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In the CBS footage Arnold looks even bigger and crispier than those funky low resolution VHS to YouTube clips you can get your hands on.
Goes to show you Arnold has not interest in proving a point. And has erased this 44 year old chapter from his like .
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In the CBS footage Arnold looks even bigger and crispier than those funky low resolution VHS to YouTube clips you can get your hands on.
Goes to show you Arnold has not interest in proving a point. And has erased this 44 year old chapter from his like .
It was right before the beginning of his epic Hollywood run. To the other competitors it was the most memorable event of their lives going up against Arnold. To him it was an afterthought.
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FACT: All the top pro’s in attendance in Sydney, including several Mr Olympia winners said that Arnold was not in the top 5
Fact: they (those pro's who say Arnold wasn't top 5) were all standing next to him on stage , not in front watching him pose, that's where things change a little bit .
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHH CBS
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Why can’t Pet Shop Boys see that that a Arnold had fat rolls and tiny legs?
It is obvious to me the he has never attended a bodybuilding show.
But even from his pics that he just posted, anyone can see that Arnold was not the winner
I agree, Arnold sucks in those pictures by himself (specially compared with his 1974 shape )
However, it is when he is compared to the rest of line up that he looks like the winner....
here things go south to everyone next to Arnold even him being the further from camera
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=609926;image)
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=1432647;image)
WoooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH 10.4.80 ;D
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I agree, Arnold sucks in those pictures by himself (specially compared with his 1974 shape )
However, it is when he is compared to the rest of line up that he looks like the winner....
here things go south to everyone next to Arnold even him being the further from camera
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=609926;image)
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
for a taller guy tinerino looks great as well...cool/different structure look to him.
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Exactly, I've looked at those shots and he stands out even further from the camera, thicker chest, shallower midsection, bigger arms, just too much for these guys.
I agree, Arnold sucks in those pictures by himself (specially compared with his 1974 shape )
However, it is when he is compared to the rest of line up that he looks like the winner....
here things go south to everyone next to Arnold even him being the further from camera
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=609926;image)
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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It is absolutely amazing to see ‘Army of One’ (Danimal77) logging in and out of all of his accounts, still trying to come to terms with this SHAM contest.
1980 was an an embarrassment for bodybuilding. And Arnold had sex with a man in order to “win”.
Yeah Arnold you ‘won’. You won the “Gay for Pay” medal of valor 🙄
Samir said that Arnold lost.
Coe said that Arnold lost.
Zane said that Arnold lost.
Roger Walker said that Arnold lost.
Ben Weider said that Arnold was doing cocaine all weekend.
PS: Roger Walker said that he doubts that Paul Graham even gave Arnold the 1st place check.
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It is absolutely amazing to see ‘Army of One’ (Danimal77) logging in and out of all of his accounts, still trying to come to terms with this SHAM contest.
1980 was an an embarrassment for bodybuilding. And Arnold had sex with a man in order to “win”.
Yeah Arnold you ‘won’. You won the “Gay for Pay” medal of valor 🙄
Samir said that Arnold lost.
Coe that said Arnold lost.
Zane said that Arnold lost.
Roger Walker said that Arnold lost.
Ben Weider said that Arnold was doing cocaine all weekend.
PS: Roger Walker said that he doubts that Paul Graham even gave Arnold the 1st place check.
But the judges (the only ones that count) said Arnold won. Get over it.
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But the judges (the only ones that count) said Arnold won. Get over it.
The judging panel was altered by Paul Graham (the promoter and Arnold’s “friend”).
Zane himself said that Arnold had the judges in his pocket. (More Gay for Pay)
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The judging panel was altered by Paul Graham (the promoter and Arnold’s “friend”).
Zane himself said that Arnold had the judges in his pocket. (More Gay for Pay)
Yeah Zane was standing next to Arnold on stage then seeing Franco oiling Arnold back stage ..... not exactly the same as the judges seeing you POSE right in front ....
Have you seen Zane standing next to Arnold any pose ? I mean what are we even debating here?
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh 10.4.80
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Yeah Zane was standing next to Arnold on stage then seeing Franco oiling Arnold back stage ..... not exactly the same as the judges seeing you POSE right in front ....
Have you seen Zane standing next to Arnold any pose ? I mean what are we even debating here?
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh 10.4.80
Arnold had the worst legs in the entire show.
Arnold’s back was terrible.
Samir said that Arnold lost.
Coe said that Arnold lost.
Zane said that Arnold lost.
Roger Walker said that Arnold lost.
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His rls was actually good, made the second biggest guy, walkers look narrow. His bdb was easily the best.
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The judging panel was altered by Paul Graham (the promoter and Arnold’s “friend”).
Zane himself said that Arnold had the judges in his pocket. (More Gay for Pay)
Who cares what Zane said?
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What a "Royal" dumbfuck! LOL.
Accusing someone of trying to 'come to terms' with the 80 Olympia. LOL. Arnold won, you stupid shit. No one has to come to terms with it. Only you mentzer meat gazers are struggling to cope 44 years later. What a fucking loser.
Let mike rest already, everytime you bring this shit up it reminds everyone that mike not only lost but didn't even come close to winning.
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What a "Royal" dumbfuck! LOL.
Accusing someone of trying to 'come to terms' with the 80 Olympia. LOL. Arnold won, you stupid shit. No one has to come to terms with it. Only you mentzer meat gazers are struggling to cope 44 years later. What a fucking loser.
Let mike rest already, everytime you bring this shit up it reminds everyone that mike not only lost but didn't even come close to winning.
:D
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It is absolutely amazing to see ‘Army of One’ (Danimal77) logging in and out of all of his accounts, still trying to come to terms with this SHAM contest.
1980 was an an embarrassment for bodybuilding. And Arnold had sex with a man in order to “win”.
Yeah Arnold you ‘won’. You won the “Gay for Pay” medal of valor 🙄
Samir said that Arnold lost.
Coe said that Arnold lost.
Zane said that Arnold lost.
Roger Walker said that Arnold lost.
Ben Weider said that Arnold was doing cocaine all weekend.
PS: Roger Walker said that he doubts that Paul Graham even gave Arnold the 1st place check.
PPS:
The backstage cleaning lady said Arnold was a clear winner
Amended for accuracy.
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What a "Royal" dumbfuck! LOL.
Accusing someone of trying to 'come to terms' with the 80 Olympia. LOL. Arnold won, you stupid shit. No one has to come to terms with it. Only you mentzer meat gazers are struggling to cope 44 years later. What a fucking loser.
Let mike rest already, everytime you bring this shit up it reminds everyone that mike not only lost but didn't even come close to winning.
And worse yet, never recovered.
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 10.4.80
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8)
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Nice, arnold in the background as wide as the guys stood infront.
8)
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Nice, arnold in the background as wide as the guys stood infront.
A giant among midgets.
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Nice, arnold in the background as wide as the guys stood infront.
A giant among midgets.
A list of facts:
Arnold had skinny legs.
Arnold was a glazed donut.
Samir said that Arnold looked terrible
Coe said that Arnold looked terrible
Ben Weider said that Arnold was doing lines of cocaine backstage
Zane said that Arnold got booed off the stage
Roger Walker said that Arnold had sex with the promoter.
Netflix acted as is Arnold never competed in 1980.
A boring, rejected, lonely INCEL named “Humble Narcissist” fell in love with Arnold after seeing ‘Commando’ and is completely blind to the reality of bodybuilding.
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Arnold: "I am Arnold Schwarzenegger, 1980 Mr Olympia”
Vince Giranda: "You just look like a fat f*ck to me"
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Why keep showing the same poor quality photo where everyone looks glossy. Arnold was ripped in 80.
Arnold: "I am Arnold Schwarzenegger, 1980 Mr Olympia”
Vince Giranda: "You just look like a fat f*ck to me"
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A list of facts:
Arnold had skinny legs.
Arnold was a glazed donut.
Samir said that Arnold looked terrible
Coe said that Arnold looked terrible
Ben Weider said that Arnold was doing lines of cocaine backstage
Zane said that Arnold got booed off the stage
Roger Walker said that Arnold had sex with the promoter.
Netflix acted as is Arnold never competed in 1980.
A boring, rejected, lonely INCEL named “Humble Narcissist” fell in love with Arnold after seeing ‘Commando’ and is completely blind to the reality of bodybuilding.
A list of facts: Arnold won 7 Olympias, was the governor of the largest state and made millions as a box office superstar.
A retard named Royalty endlessly cries about Arnold while whacking off to Mentzer photos.
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A list of facts: Arnold won 7 Olympias, was the governor of the largest state and made millions as a box office superstar.
A retard named Royalty endlessly cries about Arnold while whacking off to Mentzer photos.
There is is no “crying”.
Arnold won 6 Olympia’s.
Arnold fucked a man in 1980 and he got booed of off the Olympia stage.
End of story.
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A list of facts: Arnold won 7 Olympias, was the governor of the largest state and made millions as a box office superstar.
A retard named Royalty endlessly cries about Arnold while whacking off to Mentzer photos.
40+ Yrs of Loser's Crying 😢😢😢😢😢 & here's to many many more 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Oh & Arnold Won - 👊🏻 👍🏻 😊
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There is is no “crying”.
Arnold won 6 Olympia’s.
Arnold fucked a man in 1980 and he got booed of off the Olympia stage.
End of story.
Mentzer got fucked by several men and got fifth .... ;D
So there you have it , you and your endless fixation with GAY SEX.
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHH YMCA BITCHES
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Mentzer got fucked by several men and got fifth .... ;D
So there you have it , you and your endless fixation with GAY SEX.
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHH YMCA BITCHES
Paul Graham was the promoter in 1980.... and he had sex with Arnold.
Nothing that you say will ever change that fact.
Arnold is a gay for pay champion 😂
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40+ Yrs of Loser's Crying 😢😢😢😢😢 & here's to many many more 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Oh & Arnold Won - 👊🏻 👍🏻 😊
Your buddy RMJ11 complained about Mentzer/Yates for about 6 months straight.
He opened a giant can of worms because Roger Walker’s interview exposed RMJ11’s hero (Arnold) as gay for pay champ.
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Your buddy RMJ11 complained about Mentzer/Yates for about 6 months straight.
He opened a giant can of worms because Roger Walker’s interview exposed RMJ11’s hero (Arnold) as gay for pay champ.
40+ Yrs of Loser's Crying 😢😢😢😢😢 & here's to many many more 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Oh & Arnold Won - 👊🏻 👍🏻 😊
Another retarded Khvnt Rimjob1001 - Yep he's off Crying in some darkened hole. 😂🤣
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Royalty has had an unrequited love affair with Mike mentzer for 40 years.
Oh well, its better to have loved and lost the 1980 mr Olympia than to have never loved at all.
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Royalty has had an unrequited love affair with Mike mentzer for 40 years.
Oh well, its better to have loved and lost the 1980 mr Olympia than to have never loved at all.
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 Ha ha ha
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Mentzer got fucked by several men and got fifth .... ;D
So there you have it , you and your endless fixation with GAY SEX.
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHH YMCA BITCHES
:D Mentzer wasn't even good at sex.
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With Serge's participation, there would have been no debate
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With Serge's participation, there would have been no debate
Assuming he was at his best...
Same goes for Sergio Oliva and Big Louie
Oh well .... maybe the answer is in the CBS footage
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHH 10.4.80
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With Serge's participation, there would have been no debate
He had a great physique but looked less impressive next to other competitors.
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He had a great physique but looked less impressive next to other competitors.
Especially next to Arnold
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHhh
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Serge looked great with his arms down, when he hit fbd etc he lost it.
Especially next to Arnold
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHhh
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Serge looked great with his arms down, when he hit fbd etc he lost it.
His back was way inferior to Arnold's as well. Great physique though.
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CBS
WooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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If the remastered never before seen footage of the most controversial bodybuilding contest of all time is finally released., And all the comparison shots from the back shows Dickeson in better shape than Arnold, and all the booing after Arnold is called the winner is evident.
Would you be surprised ? Buy the DVD ?
Would it hurt Arnold's bodybuilding legacy or simply make it more relevant for younger generation that would get to see Arnold in a bodybuilding contest in a more realistic approach than Pumping Iron ?
Woooshhhhhhhh. 2015.
Arnold lost badly. Every pro who competed that day said that Arnold wasn’t in the top 5.
Then we all found out that he fucked the promoter. Gay for Pay in its purest form.
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CBS
WooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Perfect physique.
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Arnold lost badly. Every pro who competed that day said that Arnold wasn’t in the top 5.
Then we all found out that he fucked the promoter. Gay for Pay in its purest form.
One of the founding fathers. The Thomas Jefferson of G4P
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Perfect physique.
Yeah ok, fuck face
Worst triceps ever
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Yeah ok, fuck face
Worst triceps ever
Weep at the man who owns your mind. You and Mentzer are a lot alike.
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PLEASE NUKE THIS POINTLESS THREAD.........PLEASE. :(
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PLEASE NUKE THIS POINTLESS THREAD.........PLEASE. :(
Yes definitely 👊🏻
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Weep at the man who owns your mind. You and Mentzer are a lot alike.
You’re the one who constantly complains about Mentzer
I however am stating a fact. Arnold triceps in 1980 were trash
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Dips work
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Have you seen Mentzers triceps lately? He's dry as a bone. A little depleted though.
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Dips work
So does dieting correctly, not smoking and drinking whiskey during contest prep.
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Dips work
Not for his ironing board flat pecs they didn't.
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PLEASE NUKE THIS POINTLESS THREAD.........PLEASE. :(
Id say lets keep it focused mainly on the CBS yet to be released footage ...
The homosexual fixations and Mentzer's pictures (non 1980 Sydney) are pretty much pointless .
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 10.4.80
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Fuck.... Royalty is sniffing glue again. Someone who cares about him should organize an intervention.... too bad nobody gives a shit about him.
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Paul Graham
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Rumor has it Arnold once gave mentzer Arabian goggles in exchange mike was supposed to get a bit part in Pumping Iron. Turned out to be even less than a bit part, more like a wee part but still.....
Thats why mike always hated Arnold.
It's true.
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Rumor has it Arnold once gave mentzer Arabian goggles in exchange mike was supposed to get a bit part in Pumping Iron. Turned out to be even less than a bit part, more like a wee part but still.....
Thats why mike always hated Arnold.
It's true.
No loss. Mentzer got the lead part in the gayest music video ever.
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Once the CBS footage hits the light , fans will see how dense Chris really was.
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=1374309;image)
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 10.4.80
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LOL...
If he only knew that music video would be crowning achievement post his perfect score in Acapulco. He may not have gotten his hopes so high and It may have saved him some grief later in life.
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Paul Graham: “Arnold, why don’t you make yourself useful for once?”
Arnold: “Yes sir, Master Graham. Let me get that luggage for you. What’s in this suitcase Master Graham?”
Paul Graham: “My camera and your bunny suit.”
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Once the CBS footage hits the light , fans will see how dense Chris really was.
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=1374309;image)
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 10.4.80
Great physique. Too bad he was 3 feet tall.
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Once the CBS footage hits the light , fans will see how dense Chris really was.
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=1374309;image)
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 10.4.80
Yes! The mindset of a winner. The determination of a champion. One of the most winningest bodybuilders of all time. Then he climbed to the top. Kept trying improving every year until he won the Olympia....
Unlike some.
What was the one guy? He lost at the O? Placed out of the top 4? IIRC he threw a tantrum , blamed Arnold. I think he even quit and eventually became a homeless addict, sucking cock for meth....
Ah fuck it I can't remember his name. He was a loser anyway.
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The Origins of Gay for Pay
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Arnold and his “daddy”
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Arnold and his “daddy”
Do you find it hard to hide the fact the you are gay?
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Once the CBS footage hits the light , fans will see how dense Chris really was.
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=1374309;image)
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 10.4.80
Once the CBS footage of this banned episode of Reading Rainbow hits the light, fans will see how dense LeVar Burton really was.
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BUTTERFLY IN THE SKY
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Do you find it hard to hide the fact the you are gay?
This “Tin Shed” sounds like a den of lust for these 2 future ‘roommates’ who “lived out of each other’s pockets”
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Yes! The mindset of a winner. The determination of a champion. One of the most winningest bodybuilders of all time. Then he climbed to the top. Kept trying improving every year until he won the Olympia....
Unlike some.
What was the one guy? He lost at the O? Placed out of the top 4? IIRC he threw a tantrum , blamed Arnold. I think he even quit and eventually became a homeless addict, sucking cock for meth....
Ah fuck it I can't remember his name. He was a loser anyway.
Great point. Dickerson kept plugging along until he reached his goal.
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Lets put this suitacse into the trunk of one of our stolen Corvettes!
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=1508956;image)
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Lets put this suitacse into the trunk of one of our stolen Corvettes!
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=1508956;image)
;D
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Lets put this suitacse into the trunk of one of our stolen Corvettes!
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=1508956;image)
:D
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Great physique. Too bad he was 3 feet tall.
He had the ideal heigh by Bodybuilding top placing standards.
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH CBS
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The Origins of Gay for Pay
Im afraid you found out about G4P some 50 years a bit too late ...
Doing Gay for free getting you mustache iced, and not getting anywhere, living in a condo having to do some very nasty stuff (Trumps voice) to get the rent 25 % covered ... must be a never recover trauma ....
No to mention being extremely mentally unstable, completely out shape by age 40 and chasing youngsters for sexual favors... and again , getting NOTHING in return :'(
Keep crying brother you have my shoulder .... I feel your pain
WoooooSHHHHHHHH 10.4.80
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Pet Shop Boys... Thank you for making this thread. This is where Arnold’s Gay for Pay strategy has been exposed to the current fans of bodybuilding.
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“Sneak” 😂
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Royalty is envious of these guys who had sexual access to Arnold.
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”There’s something out there waiting for us
and it ain’t Paul Graham”
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I just watched True Lies, classic
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I just watched True Lies, classic
Did Paul Graham have a sex scene with Arnold in that movie?
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Wait, I might be thinking of Arnold’s -gay for pay- with Paul Graham back in 1980.
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There's plenty of touristy cam-corder video of a debased and disheveled Mentzer talking to himself, sucking dick, drinking urine, etc.. etc..
We just prefer not to remember him that way....
No. There's only One sordid low life on getbig fantasizing about gay sex from 40 years ago. Yep, that Royalty has a one track mind: Arnolds dick and Arnolds ass. What a sick fuck.
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There's plenty of touristy cam-corder video of a debased and disheveled Mentzer talking to himself, sucking dick, drinking urine, etc.. etc..
We just prefer not to remember him that way....
No. There's only One sordid low life on getbig fantasizing about gay sex from 40 years ago. Yep, that Royalty has a one track mind: Arnolds dick and Arnolds ass. What a sick fuck.
Post the video...
Just like you posted the pic of your tiny, old-lady hands
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Post the video...
Just like you posted the pic of your tiny, old-lady hands
Its online. Look it up yourself bitch! Get it through your pha66it skull: you don't tell me to do shit, bitch.
Ok you pseudo bodybuilding wizard post a picture of your flaccid, flabby, pasty body. You wont. Because you've never touched a weight. You just anonymously lust for a stuffed thong. Fucking weirdo.
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Its online. Look it up yourself bitch! Get it through your pha66it skull: you don't tell me to do shit, bitch.
Ok you pseudo bodybuilding wizard post a picture of your flaccid, flabby, pasty body. You wont. Because you've never touched a weight. You just anonymously lust for a stuffed thong. Fucking weirdo.
Post it Phaggit
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This is the article where the promoter of the 1980 Mr Olympia tells the world that he shared an apartment with Arnold for years
https://www.foxsports.com.au/what-the-fox/australian-body-builder-paul-graham-on-how-he-sculpted-arnold-schwarzeneggers-early-years/news-story/bf2d4d62893b56acc9ad9b85497548e7
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This is the article where the promoter of the 1980 Mr Olympia tells the world that he shared an apartment with Arnold for years
https://www.foxsports.com.au/what-the-fox/australian-body-builder-paul-graham-on-how-he-sculpted-arnold-schwarzeneggers-early-years/news-story/bf2d4d62893b56acc9ad9b85497548e7
Go ahead, royal schmoe, post your pic...
Fact! -You don't work out
Fact!- You look like shit
Fact!- You lust for Mike's banana hammock
Fact!- the sexual relations between Arnold/paul Graham are fantasies that exist only in your mind.
Fact!- the vast majority of your work week (and your entire holiday) is spent fantasizing about two men, you've never met, having sex. And you've documented it for all of Getbig to see! LOLOLOL!!!!!
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Go ahead, royal schmoe, post your pic...
Fact! -You don't work out
Fact!- You look like shit
Fact!- You lust for Mike's banana hammock
Fact!- the sexual relations between Arnold/paul Graham are fantasies that exist only in your mind.
Fact!- the vast majority of your work week (and your entire holiday) is spent fantasizing about two men, you've never met, having sex. And you've documented it for all of Getbig to see! LOLOLOL!!!!!
This is a nervous meltdown
Wouldn’t it be easier to simply post the video? LOL
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Beakdoctor you read this right?
This is the promoter of the 1980 Olympia speaking...
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This is a nervous meltdown
Wouldn’t it be easier to simply post the video? LOL
No. Its an accusation.
You're a disgusting perverted schmoe. You don't work out. You look like shit. And the real reason you hate Arnold is because he killed the love of your life.
Face it: you're a lonely schmoe. A schmoe-cel.
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Arnold shared an apartment with Paul Graham... for years
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Arnold shared an apartment with Paul Graham... for years
Don't shift the focus. You're a flabby, schmoe-cel. Youve completely created a fictional world in which you fantasize about Arnold and Paul Graham having sex.
You've been called out and yet you still can't stop yourself from posting about it. Sick!
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Don't shift the focus. You're a flabby, schmoe-cel. Youve completely created a fictional world in which you fantasize about Arnold and Paul Graham having sex.
You've been called out and yet you still can't stop yourself from posting about it. Sick!
You are desperately trying to avoid the reality of Arnold’s and Paul Graham’s apartment 😂
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Beakdoctor we are all waiting for you to post the video that you discussed at the top of this page.
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So what, they shared an apartment, how does that make them gay.
You are desperately trying to avoid the reality of Arnold’s and Paul Graham’s apartment 😂
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Go ahead, royal schmoe, post your pic...
Fact! -You don't work out
Fact!- You look like shit
Fact!- You lust for Mike's banana hammock
Fact!- the sexual relations between Arnold/paul Graham are fantasies that exist only in your mind.
Fact!- the vast majority of your work week (and your entire holiday) is spent fantasizing about two men, you've never met, having sex. And you've documented it for all of Getbig to see! LOLOLOL!!!!!
Mentzer is his gay lover fantasy and Arnold is his angry rough sex gay fantasy.
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Arnold LIVED with the promoter of the 1980 Mr Olympia. They “lived out of each other’s pockets”.
Zane, Samir, Coe, and Roger Walker ALL said that Arnold didn’t belong in the top 5
Arnold was booed off of the stage 😂
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ARNOLD
SOLD
HIS
ASS
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Mentzer is his gay lover fantasy and Arnold is his angry rough sex gay fantasy.
Did you know there's footage of Mike offering to give everyone who placed ahead of him free mustache rides? Yep it's true. Backstage after the show. Mike cracked. Downed a bottle of Fastin and begged to go down on the victors. Said "please! Don't let it end like this! HIT works!"
But, unfortunately...
CBS will never release the footage. It's just too controversial.
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ARNOLD FUCKED MEN
IF THEY WERE WILLING TO
DRIVE HIM AROUND TOWN
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Arnold shared an apartment with Paul Graham... for years
Lmao!!!!
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The real reason mentzer wore a mustach was to hide the stretch marks around his mouth.
That's your hero.
A no good, 5th place, meth addict, COCK SUCKER.
Way to go, putz.
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The real reason mentzer wore a mustach was to hide the stretch marks around his mouth.
That's your hero.
A no good, 5th place, meth addict, COCK SUCKER.
Way to go, putz.
Dear God
https://www.enotalone.com/profile/9012-danimal77/
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Dear God
https://www.enotalone.com/profile/9012-danimal77/
Pray all you want. It won't change the fact that you're built like a garbage bag full of bilge water.
Post your picture, Royalasslicker. You won't because you're a blob of shit. How many people over the years have you begged for their pic? Demanded their pic? Obsessed over it? Yet you're such a pussy you'll never post your own. LOL, what a sped.
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Pray all you want. It won't change the fact that you're built like a garbage bag full of bilge water.
Post your picture, Royalasslicker. You won't because you're a blob of shit. How many people over the years have you begged for their pic? Demanded their pic? Obsessed over it? Yet you're such a pussy you'll never post your own. LOL, what a sped.
Hi Paul Graham
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Hi Paul Graham
Hi lard ass!
Where the fuck is your picture, you little bitch. Fat fuck.
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Hi lard ass!
Where the fuck is your picture, you little bitch. Fat fuck.
You are brutal
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“For five years I had Arnold under training. Singing lessons; acting lessons, dancing lessons. I spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on him. I was gonna make Arnold a big star! And let me be even more frank, just to show you that I'm not a hard-hearted man, and it's not all dollars and cents. He was beautiful; he was young, he was innocent. He was the greatest piece of ass I ever had, and I had 'em all over the world!”
-Paul Graham
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“And then Franco Columbu comes along with his olive-oil voice, and guinea charm. And Arnold runs off. He threw it all away just to make me look ridiculous! And a man in my position can't afford to be made to look ridiculous!”
-Paul Graham
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1980 Mr. Olympia was not the sole reason Mentzer quit bodybuilding.
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Stop with the gay Arnold fiction. It's not even funny.
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Stop with the gay Arnold fiction. It's not even funny.
Roger Walker confirmed it to be true. Sorry to ruin your “hero”
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Roger Walker confirmed it to be true. Sorry to ruin your “hero”
So my older brother and pervy papa sandwiched you growing up.
What is that anything to do with Arnold?
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So my older brother and pervy papa sandwiched you growing up.
What is that anything to do with Arnold?
Hi Beakdoctor. Sorry to ruin your ‘hero’
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Hi Beakdoctor. Sorry to ruin your ‘hero’
You're a fat fuck. Why are you on a bodybuilding website? Failed again at praying the gay away?
Your lust for musclemen is so obvious, your religious schtick is cringe worthy. LOL, flounder.
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ARNOLD CAME
TO AMERICA
AND HOOKED UP
WITH A SCHMOE
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AFOREMENTIONED
SCHMOE
TURNED OUT TO BE
THE PROMOTER OF THE
1980 MR OLYMPIA
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“…….and steal corvettes together!”
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Mike was at his best in 79.
Then gut was out of control.
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ARNOLD CAME
TO AMERICA
AND HOOKED UP
WITH A SCHMOE
Yeah but, YOU are a schmoe. LOL. You're a fat fuck lusting for a muscle man's stuffed thong. You fuckin freak.
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Yeah but, YOU are a schmoe. LOL. You're a fat fuck lusting for a muscle man's stuffed thong. You fuckin freak.
Reaching deep into your bag of insults 😂
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Reaching deep into your bag of insults 😂
Royalty secretly wants Arnold to lower his Bavarian bunghole and ball sack upon his jelly donut eating mouth. In over 20 years on this board have I seen such a fascination of one board members obsessing over another man's sexual preferences. Face it Royalty, you star at pictures of men's cocks on the internet and get hard. Just cum out of your phaggot closet already, free yoursef
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Royalty secretly wants Arnold to lower his Bavarian bunghole and ball sack upon his jelly donut eating mouth. In over 20 years on this board have I seen such a fascination of one board members obsessing over another man's sexual preferences. Face it Royalty, you star at pictures of men's cocks on the internet and get hard. Just cum out of your phaggot closet already, free yoursef
Put this in your diary also
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Put this in your diary also
Eat shit you fat fuck ;D
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Eat shit you fat fuck ;D
Brilliant
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Unfortunately Royalty takes a volume approach to shit posting about imaginary gay sex with Paul Graham.
Could you imagine if Royalty ever found himself in the extraordinary position of actually interacting with a member of the opposite sex? How long before he'd start talking about getbig? Or his gibberish about small hands? How long before he pops the question: who do you think the 'real' winner of the 1980 Olympia was?
LOL, this guy is such a fucking sped.
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Unfortunately Royalty takes a volume approach to shit posting about imaginary gay sex with Paul Graham.
Could you imagine if Royalty ever found himself in the extraordinary position of actually interacting with a member of the opposite sex? How long before he'd start talking about getbig? Or his gibberish about small hands? How long before he pops the question: who do you think the 'real' winner of the 1980 Olympia was?
LOL, this guy is such a fucking sped.
Arnold lived in an apartment
with Paul Graham for years
Gay 4 Pay
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Arnold lived in an apartment
with Paul Graham for years
Gay 4 Pay
Royalty lives in his parents basement.
For his whole life.
Gay, no pay required!
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Arnold had high standards.
Arnold had a very strict policy: he only let schmoes live with him if they owned a car.
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Arnold had high standards.
Arnold had a very strict policy: he only let schmoes live with him if they owned a car.
Why dont you give your idol's training philisophy a try, and rest your gaping hole for a while.
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Arnold had high standards.
Arnold had a very strict policy: he only let schmoes live with him if they owned a car.
Your standards are much lower: you'll suck off anyone who will let you. If they agree with you about the 80 Olympia you give 'em a two-fer.
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Why dont you give your idol's training philisophy a try, and rest your gaping hole for a while.
Why don’t you give Arnold’s gaping hole a try, and let Paul Graham rest for a while.
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Your standards are much lower: you'll suck off anyone who will let you. If they agree with you about the 80 Olympia you give 'em a two-fer.
Are you referring to Paul Graham and Arnold??
Um no thanks 😂😂
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Are you referring to Paul Graham and Arnold??
Um no thanks 😂😂
Sure.... you're so turned off by the thought that you've posted about the two of them having sex for months now.
LOL! Loser. You can't even hide your creepy lust, you're so far gone😂😂😂.
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Beakdoctor read Paul’s Graham’s own words
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Beakdoctor read Paul’s Graham’s own words
Royalty, read Beakdoctor's words
Royalty first became infatuated with me on new years eve, 2023. I'm not really certain what caused his sudden obsession, but it appeared to me and everyone else on the board that he was suffering from a complete mental collapse as well as a pre-existing low I.Q.
Royalty would often ask, order, demand, and even beg other Getbiggers, including myself, to post pictures of themselves. This was ostensibly for the purposes of proving the user in question was not a "gimmick." We only later learned royalty was stockpiling pictures for his own sordid purposes.
A deep dive into the mind of Royalty proved he was a lunatic. Suffering from psychosis due to years of suppressed homosexual desires. Royalty, as is typical of others like him, turned to religion only to find that religion couldn't overcome his lust for musclemen. Royalty then settled on Mike Mentzer as the end all be all ideal of masculine perfection.
In Royalty's mind Mike was handsome, muscular and heterosexual (everything Royalty could never be) Royalty ultimately developed several pyschotic, emotional bonds with the ideal of mike mentzer: friend, brother, father figure and lover.
When it was revealed on Getbig that mentzer was a deeply flawed individual, who also suffered a mental collapse (at the hands of Arnold Schwarzenegger) who then debased and debauched himself to include "turning", becoming a homeless drug addict, being institutionalized, as well as plagiarizing the work of Arthur Jones. It was more than Royalty's soul could bare.
His subsequent conduct led to his own banishment from the forum. Men with greater self respect, self esteem, self awareness would've used that time to reflect before returning to the forum. But once again, the man who calls himself "Royalty" has proven to be nothing more than a fool of the court. Now his list of obsessions have grown to include small hands, a middle finger, imaginary gimmicks and, most telling of all, delusional fantasies of sex with Paul Graham and Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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Royalty, read Beakdoctor's words
Royalty first became infatuated with me on new years eve, 2023. I'm not really certain what caused his sudden obsession, but it appeared to me and everyone else on the board that he was suffering from a complete mental collapse as well as a pre-existing low I.Q.
Royalty would often ask, order, demand, and even beg other Getbiggers, including myself, to post pictures of themselves. This was ostensibly for the purposes of proving the user in question was not a "gimmick." We only later learned royalty was stockpiling pictures for his own sordid purposes.
A deep dive into the mind of Royalty proved he was a lunatic. Suffering from psychosis due to years of suppressed homosexual desires. Royalty, as is typical of others like him, turned to religion only to find that religion couldn't overcome his lust for musclemen. Royalty then settled on Mike Mentzer as the end all be all ideal of masculine perfection.
In Royalty's mind Mike was handsome, muscular and heterosexual (everything Royalty could never be) Royalty ultimately developed several pyschotic, emotional bonds with the ideal of mike mentzer: friend, brother, father figure and lover.
When it was revealed on Getbig that mentzer was a deeply flawed individual, who also suffered a mental collapse (at the hands of Arnold Schwarzenegger) who then debased and debauched himself to include "turning", becoming a homeless drug addict, being institutionalized, as well as plagiarizing the work of Arthur Jones. It was more than Royalty's soul could bare.
His subsequent conduct led to his own banishment from the forum. Men with greater self respect, self esteem, self awareness would've used that time to reflect before returning to the forum. But once again, the man who calls himself "Royalty" has proven to be nothing more than a fool of the court. Now his list of obsessions have grown to include small hands, a middle finger, imaginary gimmicks and, most telling of all, delusional fantasies of sex with Paul Graham and Arnold Schwarzenegger.
I RUINED BEAKDOCTOR’S LIFE
“DEAR DIARY”
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I RUINED BEAKDOCTOR’S LIFE
“DEAR DIARY”
Still not as bad as Arnold ruined Mentzers life,
And not nearly as bad as you ruined your parents life.
I should find your mom. In 9 month's she'd give your dad a son he could finally be proud of, fa66it.
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MODS CAN YOU PLEASE BAN THIS SO CALLED MALE WHO CALLS HIMSELF ROYALTY!
This male ( i wont call him a man because he isn't one) constantly talks about gay stuff and how the 80 olympia was fixed and how great meth menzter was etc. I know he does it to get people to argue. But enough is enough. This is a bodybuilding website NOT a homo fag website. Yes there are some gay activity in bodybuilding but that is not what this site should be about. So many on here always have to bring cock cum gay homo stuff into EVERY post . Whatever this royalty thin is it does NOT bring anything positive to this site. Please ban him and several others who only talk gay stuff and lies about the 80 olympia being rigged.
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Go to 52:30 mark
Arnold and Paul Graham were “more than friends”
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Go to 52:30 mark
Arnold and Paul Graham were “more than friends”
You are the Muhammad Ali of Schmoes.
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MODS CAN YOU PLEASE BAN THIS SO CALLED MALE WHO CALLS HIMSELF ROYALTY!
This male ( i wont call him a man because he isn't one) constantly talks about gay stuff and how the 80 olympia was fixed and how great meth menzter was etc. I know he does it to get people to argue. But enough is enough. This is a bodybuilding website NOT a homo fag website. Yes there are some gay activity in bodybuilding but that is not what this site should be about. So many on here always have to bring cock cum gay homo stuff into EVERY post . Whatever this royalty thin is it does NOT bring anything positive to this site. Please ban him and several others who only talk gay stuff and lies about the 80 olympia being rigged.
Don't ban him. His delusion is very amusing.
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8)
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That is an awesome shot, physique with size and class
8)
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8)
Small traps
Small triceps
Cocaine in system
Gay for Pay mindset
The day before: he was intimidated by Mike Mentzer
The night before: he was booed off of the Olympia Stage
Later that day: he had sex with Paul Graham
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Small traps
Small triceps
Cocaine in system
Gay for Pay mindset
The day before: he was intimidated by Mike Mentzer
The night before: he was booed off of the Olympia Stage
Later that day: he had sex with Paul Graham
44 years later he's still skull fucking your mind. LOL!!!
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BTW: Arnold also had the worst legs at the 1980 Mr Olympia.
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BTW: Arnold also had the worst legs at the 1980 Mr Olympia.
BTW, Mentzer came in 5th and that was the closest he would come to winning anything for the rest of his life.
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BTW, Mentzer came in 5th and that was the closest he would come to winning anything for the rest of his life.
The “placings” in
1980 meant nothing.
Arnold fucked the promoter.
End of story.
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The “placings” in
1980 meant nothing.
Arnold fucked the promoter.
End of story.
??? The placings meant everything to mentzer.
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??? The placings meant everything to mentzer.
Mentzer skipped the Olympia the next year.. along with Beckles, Boyer Coe, and Zane.
They all knew that
Arnold sold his ass
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Mentzer skipped the Olympia the next year.. along with Beckles, Boyer Coe, and Zane.
They all knew that
Arnold sold his ass
Mentzer "skipped" the Olympia for the rest of his life.😂😂😂
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Mentzer "skipped" the Olympia for the rest of his life.😂😂😂
So did Arnold
It’s not fun to get booed off of the Olympia stage
(Especially after Arnold sniffed cocaine off of Paul Graham’s ass)
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So did Arnold
It’s not fun to get booed off of the Olympia stage
(Especially after Arnold sniffed cocaine off of Paul Graham’s ass)
Apparently it's less fun to get 5th. It's the kind of humiliation that drove mentzer to madness, sucking hobo cock for amphetamines. LOL.
The only thing more shameful than dying the way mentzer died, is having fans like you as his legacy.
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Apparently it's less fun to get 5th. It's the kind of humiliation that drove mentzer to madness, sucking hobo cock for amphetamines. LOL.
The only thing more shameful than dying the way mentzer died, is having fans like you as his legacy.
;D ;D ;D
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Apparently it's less fun to get 5th. It's the kind of humiliation that drove mentzer to madness, sucking hobo cock for amphetamines. LOL.
The only thing more shameful than dying the way mentzer died, is having fans like you as his legacy.
:D Not to mention he had to go beg Arnold to pay his bills so he wouldn't be homeless. He depended on his nemesis to save his ass and that must have been depressing as Hell.
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If the remastered never before seen footage of the most controversial bodybuilding contest of all time is finally released., And all the comparison shots from the back shows Dickeson in better shape than Arnold, and all the booing after Arnold is called the winner is evident.
Would you be surprised ? Buy the DVD ?
Would it hurt Arnold's bodybuilding legacy or simply make it more relevant for younger generation that would get to see Arnold in a bodybuilding contest in a more realistic approach than Pumping Iron ?
Woooshhhhhhhh.
The promoter, Paul Graham, rigged the contest.
To this day he has pictures of Arnold on the walls in his home.
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The promoter, Paul Graham, rigged the contest.
To this day he has pictures of Arnold on the walls in his home.
Who the hell else is he going to put on the wall?
Some loser who came in 5th place? LOL.
He could put mikes portrait on the wall right next to a portrait of Chris Duffy and Denise Rutkowski to start a wall of shame.
He could include your portrait on the wall too but you're such a gaping pussy that you'll never post a picture!
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Who the hell else is he going to put on the wall?
Some loser who came in 5th place? LOL.
He could put mikes portrait on the wall right next to a portrait of Chris Duffy and Denise Rutkowski to start a wall of shame.
He could include your portrait on the wall too but you're such a gaping pussy that you'll never post a picture!
Beat me to it . ;D
I was picturing Mentzer on his wall and couldn't stop lauging ... ;D
can't help but like royalty at end of the day
WooooooSHHHHHH Heavy Duty
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Who the hell else is he going to put on the wall?
Some loser who came in 5th place? LOL.
He could put mikes portrait on the wall right next to a portrait of Chris Duffy and Denise Rutkowski to start a wall of shame.
He could include your portrait on the wall too but you're such a gaping pussy that you'll never post a picture!
Normal people have pictures of their family members on the wall...
Paul Graham has pics of his former roommate and sex partner (Arnold).
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Beat me to it . ;D
I was picturing Mentzer on his wall and couldn't stop lauging ... ;D
can't help but like royalty at end of the day
WooooooSHHHHHH Heavy Duty
Confirmed: Pet Shop Boys posts under humble narcissist and Beakdoctor
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:o
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Normal people have pictures of their family members on the wall...
Paul Graham has pics of his former roommate and sex partner (Arnold).
Like you have cum stained Mentzer photos on your walls. You two have a lot in common.
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Normal people have pictures of their family members on the wall...
Paul Graham has pics of his former roommate and sex partner (Arnold).
You wouldn't know the first thing about being normal!
Brutal cry for normalcy. The incel recognizes his own isolation but lacks the awareness to do anything about it.
Royalty's "normal" Saturday night:
Magnifies another picture of Arnolds penis to 175% and stares blankly at a picture of mentzer pointing his finger at Arnold back stage in Sydney... then wonders what a womans vagina feels like..
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You wouldn't know the first thing about being normal!
Brutal cry for normalcy. The incel recognizes his own isolation but lacks the awareness to do anything about it.
Royalty's "normal" Saturday night:
Magnifies another picture of Arnolds penis to 175% and stares blankly at a picture of mentzer pointing his finger at Arnold back stage in Sydney... then wonders what a womans vagina feels like..
:D
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Confirmed: Pet Shop Boys posts under humble narcissist and Beakdoctor
And Dropping plates, hippo mejia, 240 or bust, Italian Stallion and GH14
Can we stop ruining this thread now ?
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHh 10.4.80 D Day
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There was a last minute call to this dude to judge 1980 Olympia with no experience judging at pro level! his only expertise was being an Arnold fan .
Facts
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 10.4.80
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Normal people have pictures of their family members on the wall...
Paul Graham has pics of his former roommate and sex partner (Arnold).
You get the chance to talk to any old timer bodybuilder and they will talk about 5 mins about their glory/accomplishments then they will talk hours about those 5 mins they spent with Arnold lol.....ALL OF THEM
you wouldn't understand the impact Arnold has had to this day to the industry ,
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHH
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You get the chance to talk to any old timer bodybuilder and they will talk about 5 mins about their glory/accomplishments then they will talk hours about those 5 mins they spent with Arnold lol.....ALL OF THEM
you wouldn't understand the impact Arnold has had to this day to the industry ,
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHH
Arnold introduced the
bodybuilding world to
“Gay for Pay”
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Arnold introduced the
bodybuilding world to
“Gay for Pay”
Ohh, hey everybody, look! The feeb cobbled together some more gibberish!
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BEAKDOCTOR IS HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME COPING
WITH ARNOLD’S PRE-HOLLYWOOD LIFESTYLE
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BEAKDOCTOR IS HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME COPING
WITH ARNOLD’S PRE-HOLLYWOOD LIFESTYLE
You are correct. I do find it difficult to cope.
Coping mechanisms are all designed to help losers like you and mentzer.
For guys like Arnold and those of us used to winning, we tend to find coping mechanisms lack in comparison to reality.
Maybe you can shed some light on what it's like to be a perennial fuck up?
Royalty, what's your favorite coping exercise for being a pin dick incel?
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You are correct. I do find it difficult to cope.
Coping mechanisms are all designed to help losers like you and mentzer.
For guys like Arnold and those of us used to winning, we tend to find coping mechanisms lack in comparison to reality.
Maybe you can shed some light on what it's like to be a perennial fuck up?
Royalty, what's your favorite coping exercise for being a pin dick incel?
ARNOLD’S PRE-HOLLYWOOD LIFE
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ARNOLD’S PRE-HOLLYWOOD LIFE
This is very valuable information thank you Royalty..
Why don't you start a Paul Graham Arnold GAY ONLY thread .....
This has been a 1980 Olympia - CBS never released the footage discussion thread for some good 10 years now .
WOoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 10.4.80
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Royalty's current life:
No woman
In love w/ dead mike
Argues incessantly with Beakdoctor's so called gimmicks
Constantly asks God "why am I gay?"
Is dickless
Lives w/ parents
Has battled depression since the last toys r us shut down
Hates Arnold. (Failed at delivering a flying drop kick to Arnold's back, hasn't left basement since)
Job? What job?
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MIKE MENTZERS POST OLYMPIA LIFE
1. SLOW SHAMEFUL DEATH
THE END
ROYALTY:😪😪😪😪😪
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I believe what we are witnessing here is Royalties slow spiral into madness.
Spending all of what's left of his precious life hammering away at the keyboard in an attempt to convince people he does not know that Mike Mentzer was the 1980 uncrowned Olympia champion and that Arnold was a dick smoker.
Facts are facts and cannot be denied.
Regardless of the demasculation of the current Arnold. He was the literal King of the 1970s and 80s. The man did more for action movies as a retired bodybuilder than any before as well as the sport of bodybuilding. He has done more for the sport than the Weiders combined, literally put it on the map.
This forum would not exist had Arnold decided to play soccer
Royalty.......seek help
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^^^ another long winded “EXPLANATION”
Put it in your diary
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^^^ another long winded “EXPLANATION”
Put it in your a diary
Just admit you want to take a cock up the arse and suck another at the same time
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^^^ another long winded “EXPLANATION”
Put it in your a diary
Your responses are completely impotent.
what does Royalty like most at his birthday party?
Clown shoes and chicken nuggets.
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Just admit you want to take a cock up the arse and suck another at the same time
That’s known as the
“Arnold 80’ Combo”
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That’s known as the
“Arnold 80’ Combo”
Royaly fuck mentzer in the ass and take away his eugen sandow toy?
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“ARNOLD 80’ COMBO”
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This arnold and Paul Graham crap has become very boring. We need new pics and footage to debate, only 44 years have passed, it's still fresh in everyone's mind
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This arnold and Paul Graham crap has become very boring. We need new pics and footage to debate, only 44 years have passed, it's still fresh in everyone's mind
Put it in your diary
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This arnold and Paul Graham crap has become very boring. We need new pics and footage to debate, only 44 years have passed, it's still fresh in everyone's mind
Read Muscle, smoke & Mirrors from Randy Roach ;)
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“ARNOLD 80’ COMBO”
Is this what your mother hears when youve been in the bathroom too long?
R- Arnold 80 comboArnold80comboArnold 80combo... unnnggghh ahhhh.
Mom- Royalty, what are you doing in there?
R- Nothing Ma! Just combing my hair. I swear.
Dad- Yep, he's beating off to muscle rags again.
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CONFIRMED: ARNOLD IS A HOMOSEXUAL
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CONFIRMED: ARNOLD IS A HOMOSEXUAL
Confirmed: you eat pieces of shit for breakfast.
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Where exactly is Arnold’s right hand?
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Exactly!
Ok, so some disgruntled fans booed Arnold when he won a close contest.
Oh, so that's the scandal?
LOL, booing the winners and top places are more common then cheering at most bodybuilding contests.
Samir was booed in 83 by some (probably Bertil's fans) but he was a deserving winner.
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This board seems to be heavily contaminated by the same individual…
They used to ban people here for lesser headaches.
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CONFIRMED: ARNOLD IS A HOMOSEXUAL
Looks like old school training calves and goofing off with friends.
(Royalchoad stares into a mirror in a dark basement, he softly repeats the word "friends" then paws at his image in the mirror while making a vaguely "retarded" sound)
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Where exactly is Arnold’s right hand?
Was everyone here special ed in school?
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Was everyone here special ed in school?
Nope. Just Royalty.
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Was everyone here special ed in school?
ARNOLD IS CLEARLY PALMING WEIDER’S ASS
ARNOLD KNEW HOW TO CATER TO SCHMOES
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ARNOLD IS CLEARLY PALMING WEIDER’S ASS
ARNOLD KNEW HOW TO CATER TO SCHMOES
Not true.
You are a major schmoe and yet you are immune to arnolds charm.
Mentzer was more your type- burly, meth addict, gay, loser, toser, dead.... right up your alley.
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CBS saw Mentzer had a bubble gut and decided they can't air the contest :D
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:)
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:)
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It’s amazing to know that the promoter of the 1980 Olympia was once Arnold’s roommate. What a coincidence? 😂
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We must ask
ourselves a
fundamental question.
What exactly drove Arnold into the arms of a Schmoe?
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We must ask ourselves a fundamental question.
What exactly drove Arnold into the arms of a Schmoe?
FFS, the parents let the retard off the leash again.
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Did Arnold’s schmoe provide more than just financial security? Did the schmoe simply nurture the young Schwarzenegger?
Or was there also intimacy? Did they share the same bed?
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"Training to failure" LOL
Imagine, a whole cult of retards striving, tirelessly, to become failures.
Royal-incel must be a star pupil. LMFAO.
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Do you not get bored of this?
Did Arnold’s schmoe provide more than just financial security? Did the schmoe simply nurture the young Schwarzenegger?
Or was there also intimacy? Did they share the same bed?
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Did Arnold’s schmoe provide more than just financial security? Did the schmoe simply nurture the young Schwarzenegger?
Or was there also intimacy? Did they share the same bed?
News flash - 1980 Mr Olympia Arnold wins again
& 44yrs later he is still the Winner - HTH ;D
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News flash - 1980 Mr Olympia Arnold wins again
& 44yrs later he is still the Winner - HTH ;D
Samir and Zane have more credibility than you. They were there. They both said that Arnold was not in the top 5.
Nothing that you say can possibly give you more credibility that 2 former Mr Olympia’s
Then we can add Boyer Coe and Albert Beckles and Roger Walker to the list
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FFS, the parents let the retard off the leash again.
They had to. He was trying to fuck all their door knobs.
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Samir and Zane have more credibility than you. They were there. They both said that Arnold was not in the top 5.
Nothing that you say can possibly give you more credibility that 2 former Mr Olympia’s
Then we can add Boyer Coe and Albert Beckles and Roger Walker to the list
News Flash - They were not the Judges & Arnold won 1st place
Nothing you say or any of them has or will change that decision.
Accept it & move on .
1980 Mr Olympia winner Arnold S.
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The thing that gets me is that Mentzer was fifth. It's not like he could claim first place. Arnold at 80% was still better than the rest there. If he arrived at his 1975, 74 or 73 condition we wouldn't be having this conversation cause no one would be remotely close. If anyone has a gripe it would be second place Chris Dickerson.
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Roy isn’t even flexing and he beats Arnold on every body part
Look at Roy’s triceps... then look at Arnold’s
Look at Roy’s quads... then look at Arnold’s
Look at Roy’s abs... then look at Arnold’s
Look at Roy’s forearms... then look at Arnold’s
Look at Roy’s traps... then look at Arnold’s
The only area that Arnold wins is calves.
Roy placed 7th
Note: Arnold stepped forward in the lineup in an attempt to look bigger than the rest of the competitors. That’s why Roy is looking at Arnold’s feet.
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The thing that gets me is that Mentzer was fifth. It's not like he could claim first place. Arnold at 80% was still better than the rest there. If he arrived at his 1975, 74 or 73 condition we wouldn't be having this conversation cause no one would be remotely close. If anyone has a gripe it would be second place Chris Dickerson.
Better yet if Arnold was a new guy that year, he would have won it with zero drama . think about it ? most whining is centered om him not being as good as previous years .....
Arnold disrespected his competition? Yes
Was the contest fixed? It sure looks like it was ..... at least I honestly think so
was Arnold still the best man on stage that Oct 4th 1980? yes
Does Arnold acts like if the 1980 Olympia never happened? yes
Thats why I love to get my hands on the CBS footage remastered
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHh Sydney
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WoooooSSSHHHHHHHHHhhh 10.4.80
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Better yet if Arnold was a new guy that year, he would have won it with zero drama . think about it ? most whining is centered on him not being as good as previous years .....
Arnold disrespected his competition? No.
Was the contest fixed? It sure looks like it wasn't ..... at least I honestly don't think so
was Arnold still the best man on stage that Oct 4th 1980? Definitely
Does Arnold acts like if the 1980 Olympia never happened? No
That's why I love to get my hands on the CBS footage remastered as it would prove nothing
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHh Sydney
Double WoooSHHHHHHHHHHh
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Better yet if Arnold was a new guy that year, he would have won it with zero drama . think about it ? most whining is centered om him not being as good as previous years .....
Arnold disrespected his competition? Yes
Was the contest fixed? It sure looks like it was ..... at least I honestly think so
was Arnold still the best man on stage that Oct 4th 1980? yes
Does Arnold acts like if the 1980 Olympia never happened? yes
Thats why I love to get my hands on the CBS footage remastered
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHh Sydney
ARNOLD WAS
BOOED OFF OF
THE STAGE
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Roy isn’t even flexing and he beats Arnold on every body part
Look at Roy’s triceps... then look at Arnold’s
Look at Roy’s quads... then look at Arnold’s
Look at Roy’s abs... then look at Arnold’s
Look at Roy’s forearms... then look at Arnold’s
Look at Roy’s traps... then look at Arnold’s
The only area that Arnold wins is calves.
Roy placed 7th
Note: Arnold stepped forward in the lineup in an attempt to look bigger than the rest of the competitors. That’s why Roy is looking at Arnold’s feet.
Roy should have beaten Mentzer
Mentzer can only manage 5th place? Also Zane’s physique was more pleasing, smaller waist , flows better and better condition. Mentzer was blocky, wider waist , has a “stubby” look to his overall structure. Makes him look shorter than he is
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ARNOLD WAS
CHEERED OFF OF
THE STAGE
😉
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=644927.200
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WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHH
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W ;D ;D ;D ;DSHHHHHHHHHHH
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ARNOLD WAS
BOOED OFF OF
THE STAGE
FFS man what is you're problem ?
Quit crying over Arnold winning - There's Fuck all you can do about it.
Grow up & act like a man it was over 40yrs ago.
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FFS man what is you're problem ?
Quit crying over Arnold winning - There's Fuck all you can do about it.
Grow up & act like a man it was over 40yrs ago.
I’m using Zane’s words...
Arnold was booed off of the stage.
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Pet Shop Boys continually makes the same mistake. He actually thinks that Arnold’s legs were impressive.
If you are trying to state that Arnold “won”, why would you post any pics where Arnold’s leg are visible??
These legs are incredibly weak (worst legs onstage)
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Look at Mentzer’s hamstrings... then look at Arnold’s
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Talk about a sick, psychopathic, stooge.
Royaljaggoff demands people "prove" Arnold won the 1980 Olympia.
Also demands proof that Getbiggers are not gimmicks by posting picture, then accuses them of lying when they do post pix. Meanwhile, he absolutely will not post his own.
What a choad.
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Talk about a sick, psychopathic, stooge.
Royaljaggoff demands people "prove" Arnold won the 1980 Olympia.
Also demands proof that Getbiggers are not gimmicks by posting picture, then accuses them of lying when they do post pix. Meanwhile, he absolutely will not post his own.
What a choad.
6 month’s later... still upset about the upside down coffee cup challenge??
“Dear Diary”
😂
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I HOPE THAT CONDOMS WERE UTILIZED
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Such utter fagotry from just one person ^^^
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Arnold had a
“Second Father”
otherwise known
as a ‘Sugar Daddy’
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Question of the day:
DID ARNOLD HAVE A SCHMOE IN AUSTRIA?
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Talk about a sick, psychopathic, stooge.
Royaljaggoff demands people "prove" Arnold won the 1980 Olympia.
Also demands proof that Getbiggers are not gimmicks by posting picture, then accuses them of lying when they do post pix. Meanwhile, he absolutely will not post his own.
What a choad.
I'm thinking he's suffered a bad knock on the head to keep repeatedly posting his on going
Nonsense, like he's become obsessed about a competition 40+ yrs ago that he doesn't like
The result of & cannot change , yet can't let go. 🙄
As for demanding others post pics & yet he won't do like wise is pure idiocy.
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I'm thinking he's suffered a bad knock on the head to keep repeatedly posting his on going
Nonsense, like he's become obsessed about a competition 40+ yrs ago that he doesn't like
The result of & cannot change , yet can't let go. 🙄
As for demanding others post pics & yet he won't do like wise is pure idiocy.
I actually thought that you were somewhat smart.
Don’t you realize that Beakdoctor is RMJ11?
Their hate for Mentzer was/is INTENSE.
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BEAKDOCTOR LIED AND SAID THAT HE TRAINED AT TEMPLE GYM
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BEAKDOCTOR SAID THAT HE PERSONALLY WATCHED DORIAN TRAIN.
BEAKDOCTOR SAID THAT DORIAN LIED ABOUT TRAINING
HEAVY DUTY STYLE
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BEAKDOCTOR HATES BOTH MENTZER AND YATES.
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I actually thought that you were somewhat smart.
Don’t you realize that Beakdoctor is RMJ11?
Their hate for Mentzer was/is INTENSE.
Does it matter ? most of us are anonymous on here
what difference does it make if one person wants to pretend to be
17 different people, None.
Likewise Rimjob & his hate for Dorian / Mike - let him carry on
like a child - do you think Dorian is or would be remotely bothered
by what he says - NO he wouldn't so why would you ?
I don't get the incessant obession & carry on.
Let it be.
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Does it matter ? most of us are anonymous on here
what difference does it make if one person wants to pretend to be
17 different people, None.
Likewise Rimjob & his hate for Dorian / Mike - let him carry on
like a child - do you think Dorian is or would be remotely bothered
by what he says - NO he wouldn't so why would you ?
I don't get the incessant obession & carry on.
Let it be.
Any normal, mature person understands this. Why the fuck would I, or anyone else, need to make up a gimmick?
No one on here knows me anyway.
Only an intellectually stunted (re:retarded) person would even presume this to be the case.
Royal-assclown is the worst gimmick on here. He's a total pussy, which is bad enough, but he's dumb as fuck too.
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Does it matter ? most of us are anonymous on here
what difference does it make if one person wants to pretend to be
17 different people, None.
Likewise Rmj11 & his facts about Dorian / Mike - let him carry on - do you think Dorian is or would be remotely bothered? Yes, he does actually.
I don't get the incessant obession & carry on.
Let it be.
Nah.
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Any normal, mature person understands this. Why the fuck would I, or anyone else, need to make up a gimmick?
No one on here knows me anyway.
Only an intellectually stunted (re:retarded) person would even presume this to be the case.
Royal-assclown is the worst gimmick on here. He's a total pussy, which is bad enough, but he's dumb as fuck too.
I *think* I remember you from IronAge. I was also there when that lunatic Abeles was trolling Serge Nubret.
You're cool in my book, bro. And I know you're not that Rmj "Rimjob" dipshit; you converse on a far more intelligent level.
I can't say I agree insofar as the site's worst gimmick, though. Rimjob is as obnoxious as any, and Hankins...he might not be a "gimmick" as such, but he is insufferable.
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I *think* I remember you from IronAge. I was also there when that lunatic Abeles was trolling Serge Nubret.
You're cool in my book, bro. And I know you're not that Rmj "Rimjob" dipshit; you converse on a far more intelligent level.
I can't say I agree insofar as the site's worst gimmick, though. Rimjob is as obnoxious as any, and Hankins...he might not be a "gimmick" as such, but he is insufferable.
Aw, your feelings got hurt. Triggered.
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Aw, your feelings got hurt. Triggered.
Boring.
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I am boring.
That you are.
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I know let's have another 40yrs of ridiculess nonsense
Arguing about Arnold winning The 1980 Olympia FFS
HE DID - Accept & move on
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I know let's have another 40yrs of ridiculess nonsense
Arguing about Arnold winning The 1980 Olympia FFS
HE DID - Accept & move on
Why did “Pep Shop Boys” make the thread?
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Why did “Pep Shop Boys” make the thread?
2015...
If the remastered never before seen footage of the most controversial bodybuilding contest of all time is finally released., And all the comparison shots from the back shows Dickerson in better shape than Arnold, and all the booing after Arnold is called the winner is evident.
Would you be surprised ? Buy the DVD ?
Would it hurt Arnold's bodybuilding legacy or simply make it more relevant for younger generation that would get to see Arnold in a bodybuilding contest in a more realistic approach than Pumping Iron ?
Woooshhhhhhhh. 2015.
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10.4.80
Wooshhhhhhh
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No worse than any of the other contenders except Platz. Doesn't matter. He still won. No conspiracy. Arnold was the best out of a bad line up.
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No worse than any of the other contenders except Platz. Doesn't matter. He still won. No conspiracy. Arnold was the best out of a bad line up.
Exactly ... Platz had the best legs that unforgatable October 4th ..... he was 10th place that day.
Arnold and Dickerson had the best calves you got 1st and second there .
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH Sydney
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Exactly ... Platz had the best legs that unforgatable October 4th ..... he was 10th place that day.
Arnold and Dickerson had the best calves you got 1st and second there .
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH Sydney
Platz had legs early in his career that way overpowered his legs. The upper body caught up later.
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^^^ Zane's word. ::)
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All the whinny Bitches still screaming & crying 40+ yrs on
And Arnold is still the winner ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Cry / Bitch & post all the things you like it won't change Arnold
being the Winner - Carry on Losers.
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All the whinny Bitches still screaming & crying 40+ yrs on
And Arnold is still the winner ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Cry / Bitch & post all the things you like it won't change Arnold
being the Winner - Carry on Losers.
Arnold probably lurks here and jerks off to Royalty's tears. ;D
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Dickerson's grandma didn't think Arnold belonged in the top 5.
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Get it right, it was Dickersons Grandmas cousin!
Dickerson's grandma didn't think Arnold belonged in the top 5.
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Get it right, it was Dickersons Grandmas cousin!
That's right, I forgot.
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Fag.
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Dickerson's grandma didn't think Arnold belonged in the top 5.
;D ;D ;D
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What a hunk of a Man
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This picture was taken as part of a professional photoshoot some 40 years ago, Arnold wanted to display a more Appealing look to mainstream media .... $$$
this photo was featured in publication around the world, in cities and countries you probably wouldn't know how to spell ...... while Mike Mentzer was sitting down across World Gym in his second pack of cigarettes of the day , out of shape love handles, smelling like a widowed monkey bitching how he was robbed in 1980 by Arnold high on cocaine ...
Now Lets keep the thread about 1980 Mr,O
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHH
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This picture was taken as part of a professional photoshoot some 40 years ago, Arnold wanted to display a more Appealing look to mainstream media .... $$$
this photo was featured in publication around the world, in cities and countries you probably wouldn't know how to spell ...... while Mike Mentzer was sitting down across World Gym in his second pack of cigarettes of the day , out of shape love handles, smelling like a widowed monkey bitching how he was robbed in 1980 by Arnold high on cocaine ...
Now Lets keep the thread about 1980 Mr,O
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHH
RMJ11
Classic Rant 😂
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There'ssome good shots from this set, legs look good aswell, way removed from competition.
This picture was taken as part of a professional photoshoot some 40 years ago, Arnold wanted to display a more Appealing look to mainstream media .... $$$
this photo was featured in publication around the world, in cities and countries you probably wouldn't know how to spell ...... while Mike Mentzer was sitting down across World Gym in his second pack of cigarettes of the day , out of shape love handles, smelling like a widowed monkey bitching how he was robbed in 1980 by Arnold high on cocaine ...
Now Lets keep the thread about 1980 Mr,O
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHH
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I think this was for a workout video. He filmed it with sexy babe.
Around this same time, mike mentzer was homeless, living in a gutter (not too far away from wear the video was shot), strung out on amphetamines and hobo cock. IIRC it was the result of his brutal owning in 1980 at the Sydney opera house.
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I think this was for a workout video. He filmed it with sexy babe.
Around this same time, mike mentzer was homeless, living in a gutter (not too far away from wear the video was shot), strung out on amphetamines and hobo cock. IIRC it was the result of his brutal owning in 1980 at the Sydney opera house.
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I think this was for a workout video. He filmed it with sexy babe.
Around this same time, mike mentzer was homeless, living in a gutter (not too far away from wear the video was shot), strung out on amphetamines and hobo cock. IIRC it was the result of his brutal owning in 1980 at the Sydney opera house.
Hi RMJ11
PS: Your hero Arnold got fucked by Paul Graham
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Hi RMJ11
PS: Your hero Arnold got fucked by Paul Graham
Royalty,
I regard RMJ "Rimjob" so low that'd he'd have to try very hard indeed to disappoint me. His PeeWee "hurhur I know you are but what am I" calibre humour is on par with Squadfatter on a good day.
But I definitely don't think Beakdoctor or some of the other chaps you've accused of being Rimjob's aliases are actually him.
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Royalty madness know no end
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PALUMBOISM WAS SETTING IN
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Hi RMJ11
PS: Your hero Arnold got fucked by Paul Graham
Mentzer sucked dicks for loosies.
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This picture was taken as part of a professional photoshoot some 40 years ago, Arnold wanted to display a more Appealing look to mainstream media .... $$$
this photo was featured in publication around the world, in cities and countries you probably wouldn't know how to spell ...... while Mike Mentzer was sitting down across World Gym in his second pack of cigarettes of the day , out of shape love handles, smelling like a widowed monkey bitching how he was robbed in 1980 by Arnold high on cocaine ...
Now Lets keep the thread about 1980 Mr,O
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHH
Legit LOL even though I don't really know what the fuck it means! ;D
I think this was for a workout video. He filmed it with sexy babe.
Around this same time, mike mentzer was homeless, living in a gutter (not too far away from wear the video was shot), strung out on amphetamines and hobo cock. IIRC it was the result of his brutal owning in 1980 at the Sydney opera house.
OK so that one hit hard too - this thread is delivering! 😆🤣😄
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Legit LOL even though I don't really know what the fuck it means! ;D
OK so that one hit hard too - this thread is delivering! 😆🤣😄
Those two bums are actually the same person.
Eventually all of his gimmicks talk exactly like that.
It’s so easy to spot this guy.
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Those two bums are actually the same person.
Eventually all of his gimmicks talk exactly like that.
It’s so easy to spot this guy.
Even if you have no other names on GB it still doesn't mean you're not a gimmick. Maybe the most pathetic of all.
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Zane and dicklessson so much better than mentzer, Zane has better structure, smaller waist, and flows better
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Mentzer killing nobody with that back!
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Mentzer killing nobody with that back! Funnily you chose a pic that shows of his strong suit, traps.
Although Arnold back was off, he sure had much better traps than Mentzer ever had...
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difference in legs is too much to ignore, Arnold is not as complete and not as massive,, see arms aswell...
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difference in legs is too much to ignore, Arnold is not as complete and not as massive,, see arms aswell...
Everyone loves to show this picture of Arnold, probably the single worst competition photo of him ever, and yet if you look at a bodypart by bodypart comparison, Arnold is still bigger and better..
Even the legs, this is a side by side comparison, of an 'out-of-shape' Arnold. In this comparison, you're telling me mentzers legs look so much better? Nah.
The thing was settled 44 years ago. The old saying is 'you can tell a lot about a person by the way they handle defeat' the only one who didn't act like a fucking child was Dickerson.
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AI enhanced Mentzer domination
Walker and Callender are both obviously better than mike mental but you don't hear them whining 44 years later about a downsized mentzer getting a gift 5th place finish...
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AI enhanced Mentzer domination
Can’t be that dominate if he finished 5th place
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Walker and Callender are both obviously better than mike mental but you don't hear them whining 44 years later about a downsized mentzer getting a gift 5th place finish...
Walker was way better than his placement for sure.
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While Mentzer is swallowing his pride in the background...realizing he might not crack top 6 ... Roy Callender should have been 5th,
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHhh 10 4 80
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Even on his best day Dickerson can't touch this
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Poor back, fat ass Mentzer gets destroyed by Arnold , Zane and Dickerson here...
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Even on his best day Dickerson can't touch this
:o Perfect male physique right there.
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:o Perfect male physique right there.
And they said he was out of shape and looking terrible :-\
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And they said he was out of shape and looking terrible :-\
I wonder if I can still order those supplements?
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I wonder if I can still order those supplements?
I highly doubt that...You missed your chance to look like Arnold ;)
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And they said he was out of shape and looking terrible :-\
Yeah, it's subjective. Him being that light was certainly a different look for him but look at the striations in the chest. That's probably his lowest bf percentage ever.
I thought those pics over Sydney harbor were taken the day after the Olympia. I would say he looks fuller and leaner in these pics than he was on stage.
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Yeah, it's subjective. Him being that light was certainly a different look for him but look at the striations in the chest. That's probably his lowest bf percentage ever.
I thought those pics over Sydney harbor were taken the day after the Olympia. I would say he looks fuller and leaner in these pics than he was on stage.
Many teenagers and young men probably started lifting after seeing those pics.
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WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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An emaciated mentzer once again proving a calorie is a calorie, also proving that an amphetamine is an amphetamine.
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An emaciated mentzer once again proving a calorie is a calorie, also proving that an amphetamine is an amphetamine.
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Dear God, the gimp is seizing up again.
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Dear God, the gimp is seizing up again.
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Lol, fool! "Dear God" is a common everyday phrase you fucking idiot. What? You dont seriously think you coined the phrase? Do you? Please tell me that you think you're the first person to say that.... What a simpleton.
Speaking of 'stealing pictures' youve stolen every pic you have. We're all on to your sick little games and your hand fetish. Requesting pics of Getbiggers holding coffee cups, guaranteeing that you'll have a picture of their hand, so you can whack off to it later, like the pervy little gimp that you are...
Royalty, you've gone all the way to failure, just like your hobo hero.
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No doubt Royalty jerks off with an oversized oven mitt on.
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An emaciated mentzer once again proving a calorie is a calorie, also proving that an amphetamine is an amphetamine.
A calorie is a calorie. The problem is he ate only 800 a day while hopped up on meth and no sleep.
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No doubt Royalty jerks off with an oversized oven mitt on.
No doubt. Whacking off, scheming how to get gullible Getbiggers to send him pictures of their hands...
"You want me to do what? Pose with a coffee cup? But.."
Roy "yeah, just do it. It's the only way I can be sure you are who you say you are..."
The unsuspecting Getbigger never questions how a picture of a coffee cup affirms their identity and nonetheless complies with the bizarre request...
And getbig's most prolific quirofile, the self styled "Royalty" misappropriates yet another picture to add to his collection.
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No doubt. Whacking off, scheming how to get gullible Getbiggers to send him pictures of their hands...
"You want me to do what? Pose with a coffee cup? But.."
Roy "yeah, just do it. It's the only way I can be sure you are who you say you are..."
The unsuspecting Getbigger never questions how a picture of a coffee cup affirms their identity and nonetheless complies with the bizarre request...
And getbig's most prolific quirofile, the self styled "Royalty" misappropriates yet another picture to add to his collection.
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Lol, fool! "Dear God" is a common everyday phrase you fucking idiot. What? You dont seriously think you coined the phrase? Do you? Please tell me that you think you're the first person to say that.... What a simpleton.
Speaking of 'stealing pictures' youve stolen every pic you have. We're all on to your sick little games and your hand fetish. Requesting pics of Getbiggers holding coffee cups, guaranteeing that you'll have a picture of their hand, so you can whack off to it later, like the pervy little gimp that you are...
Royalty, you've gone all the way to failure, just like your hobo hero.
No doubt. Whacking off, scheming how to get gullible Getbiggers to send him pictures of their hands...
"You want me to do what? Pose with a coffee cup? But.."
Roy "yeah, just do it. It's the only way I can be sure you are who you say you are..."
The unsuspecting Getbigger never questions how a picture of a coffee cup affirms their identity and nonetheless complies with the bizarre request...
And getbig's most prolific quirofile, the self styled "Royalty" misappropriates yet another picture to add to his collection.
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Every time I click on this thread and see Royalty's posts I feel is the ghost of Mentzer that just can't rest in peace until he is finally awarded with the 1980 Sandow lol ....... or better yet, hoping the CBS footage will finally hit the Streaming services and expose the truth ;D ...I can't help but laugh ....The Ghost of Mentzer is here just like he looked that sad 4th of October in 1980 ;D
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Happy 4th, of October of course
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Every time I click on this thread and see Royalty's posts I feel is the ghost of Mentzer that just can't rest in peace until he is finally awarded with the 1980 Sandow lol ....... or better yet, hoping the CBS footage will finally hit the Streaming services and expose the truth ;D ...I can't help but laugh ....The Ghost of Mentzer is here just like he looked that sad 4th of October in 1980 ;D
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Happy 4th, of October of course
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If the remastered never before seen footage of the most controversial bodybuilding contest of all time is finally released., And all the comparison shots from the back shows Dickerson in better shape than Arnold, and all the booing after Arnold is called the winner is evident.
Would you be surprised ? Buy the DVD ?
Would it hurt Arnold's bodybuilding legacy or simply make it more relevant for younger generation that would get to see Arnold in a bodybuilding contest in a more realistic approach than Pumping Iron ?
Woooshhhhhhhh.
Yes
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And another holiday will come and go and Royalty will prove once again that he's a friendless, fatherless, orphan by posting about his fantasy surrogate father, mike mentzer.
He's probably sitting somewhere right now chain smoking, ruminating about the world of Bodybuilding, sounding vaguely like Art Jones. Well on his way in his own journey to ultimate failure.
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great pic of mike from the show
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And another holiday will come and go and Royalty will prove once again that he's a friendless, fatherless, orphan by posting about his fantasy surrogate father, mike mentzer.
He's probably sitting somewhere right now chain smoking, ruminating about the world of Bodybuilding, sounding vaguely like Art Jones. Well on his way in his own journey to ultimate failure.
He's actually in deep depression right now. Another thread just alerted him to Mentzer's gay past.
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He's actually in deep depression right now. Another thread just alerted him to Mentzer's gay past.
It may actually validate Royalty's own sordid perversions. That's why he's so sensitive to insults towards mentzer, it touches a nerve, so to speak.
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And another holiday will come and go and Royalty will prove once again that he's a friendless, fatherless, orphan by posting about his fantasy surrogate father, mike mentzer.
He's probably sitting somewhere right now chain smoking, ruminating about the world of Bodybuilding, sounding vaguely like Art Jones. Well on his way in his own journey to ultimate failure.
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Maybe from laughter.
Thrashing you is too easy... half the time you're thrashing yourself anyway.
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Mentzer's overrated perfect score against a bunch of amateurs and Jusup Wilcosz in his very first international contest wasn't exactly perfect. It was only perfect after eliminating the highest and lowest scores.
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Mentzer's overrated perfect score against a bunch of amateurs and Jusup Wilcosz in his very first international contest wasn't exactly perfect. It was only perfect after eliminating the highest and lowest scores.
The judges are only right when he wins. When he loses the judges are wrong. It's simple. Yet, he believed in a philosophy called "objectivism." :D
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Maybe from laughter.
Thrashing you is too easy... half the time you're thrashing yourself anyway.
He wants you to post a picture hanging a Trump 24 coffee mug from your cock.
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The judges are only right when he wins. When he loses the judges are wrong. It's simple. Yet, he believed in a philosophy called "objectivism." :D
:D Yep.
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The judges are only right when he wins. When he loses the judges are wrong. It's simple. Yet, he believed in a philosophy called "objectivism." :D
And the irony is that on many occasions they were the same judges. Half of the judges in 1980 were the same ones that gave him a perfect score in the heavyweight class of the 1979 Olympia.
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If the remastered never before seen footage of the most controversial bodybuilding contest of all time is finally released., And all the comparison shots from the back shows Dickerson in better shape than Arnold, and all the booing after Arnold is called the winner is evident.
Would you be surprised ? Buy the DVD ?
Would it hurt Arnold's bodybuilding legacy or simply make it more relevant for younger generation that would get to see Arnold in a bodybuilding contest in a more realistic approach than Pumping Iron ?
Woooshhhhhhhh.
This is how the audience reacted to Arnold’s “gift placing”
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Booed off the stage, haha, can see the audience cheering behind him as he wins then poses, smiling, waves, poses again and casually walks off. All the losers were booing him off the stage in their minds
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Booed off the stage, haha, can see the audience cheering behind him as he wins then poses, smiling, waves, poses again and casually walks off. All the lovers were booing him off the stage in their minds
It was a fixed contest ;D same as ´81
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I'm sure he did. ::)
Zane threw a temper tantrum and broke his trophy... years later he likes to lie and say he accidentally knocked it over.
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At this point everyone knows that Beakdoctor and Humble Narcissist are the same person.
They fact that this psychopath keeps this thread going by responding to himself is pitiful.
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Zane threw a temper tantrum in 1980
Royalty is throwing one now.
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Jesus Christ, royalincel and his raggedy anne muppet queefcake are every bit as pathetic as I SAID THEY WERE.
Thanks for proving it.... My God, they can't even pretend to hide it.
One's a skinny fat incel the other's an obese pig, they are in fact each others personal sock puppets.
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At this point everyone knows that Beakdoctor and Humble Narcissist are the same person.
They fact that this psychopath keeps this thread going by responding to himself is pitiful.
Don't forget AbrahamG and Bevo. We are all the same.
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It was a fixed contest ;D same as ´81
C´mon man
Non of them was fixed actually. You can see the scoresheets of both 80 and 81 and its pretty clear they weren't "fixed". Franco didn't deserve to win in 81 though.
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Non of them was fixed actually. You can see the scoresheets of both 80 and 81 and its pretty clear they weren't "fixed". Franco didn't deserve to win in 81 though.
Correct, it's not like Mentzer was first in every round and ended up 5th.
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Non of them was fixed actually. You can see the scoresheets of both 80 and 81 and its pretty clear they weren't "fixed". Franco didn't deserve to win in 81 though.
Exactly. The scoresheet from 1980 shows that it was pretty close between Arnold, Dickerson and Zane. Arnold may have had "friends" on the judges panel but not all of them had him in first place. He won yes but by a margin.
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Exactly. The scoresheet from 1980 shows that it was pretty close between Arnold, Dickerson and Zane. Arnold may have had "friends" on the judges panel but not all of them had him in first place. He won yes but by a margin.
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I got no problem with Arnold winning shows when he looked liked this.
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I got no problem with Arnold winning shows when he looked liked this.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA, who gives a flying fuck what a blithering idiot like you has a "problem with"?
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Arnold got booed by the audience after he was announced the winner. Quite a surprise since Arnold was popular in Sydney since he had posed here several times in the seventies. He wasn't happy about that and the MC urged the crowd to acknowledge the winner and eventually they did applaud Arnold. I had a gym member take a movie of the finals and presentations and he got so excited about Roger Walker being in the posedown that he kept stamping his feet and ruined the film. I still have that film and the audio should be there. Will see if I can retrieve the audio and post it here. This will be evidence about how loud and long the booing lasted.
Royalty is mistaken about no one thinking Arrnold deserved to win. Lots of people did. I wasn't surprised but I really didn't compare them like the judges did.
That claim that Arnold and Paul were sexually involved is preposterous.
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I’ve never seen this guy before, but the guy standing next to Arnold is in much better condition and had a better bone structure
Arnold doesn’t look like the winner
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Arnold got booed by the audience after he was announced the winner. Quite a surprise since Arnold was popular in Sydney since he had posed here several times in the seventies. He wasn't happy about that and the MC urged the crowd to acknowledge the winner and eventually they did applaud Arnold. I had a gym member take a movie of the finals and presentations and he got so excited about Roger Walker being in the posedown that he kept stamping his feet and ruined the film. I still have that film and the audio should be there. Will see if I can retrieve the audio and post it here. This will be evidence about how loud and long the booing lasted.
Royalty is mistaken about no one thinking Arrnold deserved to win. Lots of people did. I wasn't surprised but I really didn't compare them like the judges did.
That claim that Arnold and Paul were sexually involved is preposterous.
Haven't seen you post in a while. How are you doing, Vince?
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Haven't seen you post in a while. How are you doing, Vince?
Ok. Have two home gyms that I train in. Doing masters athletics in throwing so need to get stronger. The other guys my age have lost a lot of muscle. I managed to keep most of mine.
I won all the throws in the Australian Masters over 80 in 2023: Discus, Javelin, Shot Put, Hammer, Heavy Weight Throw, and Throws Pentathlon.
This year I had a torn hamstring from my first throw but ended up with two gold and 3 silver and a bronze.
Will turn 82 in September. Might post a photo update then.
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I edited this photo to bring the guys closer and removed those in the background.
I think Arnold won when they were compared in the judging. Mike, Chris and Frank didn't look that big or impressive standing next to Arnold. Especially for chest and arms.
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Ok. Have two home gyms that I train in. Doing masters athletics in throwing so need to get stronger. The other guys my age have lost a lot of muscle. I managed to keep most of mine.
I won all the throws in the Australian Masters in 2023: Discus, Javelin, Shot Put, Hammer, Heavy Weight Throw, and Throws Pentathlon.
This year I had a torn hamstring from my first throw but ended up with two gold and 3 silver and a bronze.
Will turn 82 in September. Might post a photo update then.
Good to hear.
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I edited this photo to bring the guys closer and removed those in the background.
I think Arnold won when they were compared in the judging. Mike, Chris and Frank didn't look that big or impressive standing next to Arnold. Especially for chest and arms.
Chest and arms don’t win shows.
Legs and back win shows.
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Dennis had the best abs that year.
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Ok. Have two home gyms that I train in. Doing masters athletics in throwing so need to get stronger. The other guys my age have lost a lot of muscle. I managed to keep most of mine.
I won all the throws in the Australian Masters over 80 in 2023: Discus, Javelin, Shot Put, Hammer, Heavy Weight Throw, and Throws Pentathlon.
This year I had a torn hamstring from my first throw but ended up with two gold and 3 silver and a bronze.
Will turn 82 in September. Might post a photo update then.
Congrats Vince that is awesome!! ;)
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I’ve never seen this guy before,
Famous British bodybuilder Roy Duvall.
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Famous British bodybuilder Roy Duvall.
4 x 50g protein shakes all week during prep then a cheat day at weekend
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Ok. Have two home gyms that I train in. Doing masters athletics in throwing so need to get stronger. The other guys my age have lost a lot of muscle. I managed to keep most of mine.
I won all the throws in the Australian Masters over 80 in 2023: Discus, Javelin, Shot Put, Hammer, Heavy Weight Throw, and Throws Pentathlon.
This year I had a torn hamstring from my first throw but ended up with two gold and 3 silver and a bronze.
Will turn 82 in September. Might post a photo update then.
Excellent - Good Going Vince - Good to see you're still very active.
Keep at it.
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Chest and arms don’t win shows.
Legs and back win shows.
This is the 70’s judging criteria
Legs and back were a 90’s thing with Dorian coming in with the size game
The fact is Arnold won and even if he didn’t win he still would have beaten Mentzer and Frank easily
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I'd say Dennis Tinerino was definitely screwed that day. His condition was awesome. Didn't have the best shape but he was tall and wide and sliced.
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I'd say Dennis Tinerino was definitely screwed that day. His condition was awesome. Didn't have the best shape but he was tall and wide and sliced.
He looked damn good in that photo.
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He looked damn good in that photo.
Should have been top 6 .
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Mentzer beat Arnold
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Stop posting pictures of your glazed asshole you stupid fa66itt.
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The funny thing is, the more these 'total failures' bring up the 80 Olympia and the more pics I see, the more obvious it is that the right guy won.
Also hilarious is mentzer himself said it best when asked what is the best way to succeed in bodybuilding, he said pick the right mother & father. LOL. Implying genetics, structure, height, shape, etc are all whats most important... and hence how an out of shape Arnold still easily beats mike manlet. Lol.
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The funny thing is, the more these 'total failures' bring up the 80 Olympia and the more pics I see, the more obvious it is that the right guy won.
Also hilarious is mentzer himself said it best when asked what is the best way to succeed in bodybuilding, he said pick the right mother & father. LOL. Implying genetics, structure, height, shape, etc are all whats most important... and hence how an out of shape Arnold still easily beats mike manlet. Lol.
and yet the fans booed Arnold off of the stage
GLAZED DOUGHNUT
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Never seen this photo before. Mentzer looks like a rocket standing relaxed. There is something wrong with his upper body symmetry - right pec smaller than the left, right shoulder bigger than the left...
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Never seen this photo before. Mentzer looks like a rocket standing relaxed. There is something wrong with his upper body symmetry - right pec smaller than the left, right shoulder bigger than the left...
Yep, 5th was actually a gift to him.
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(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=1516859;image)
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Great picture ...
Mentzer looks like he had the entire pectoral section removed,
WOoooSHHHHHHHHHHH
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and yet the fans booed Arnold off of the stage
GLAZED DOUGHNUT
WTF is wrong with you? Basile, who was there, told you they didn't boo him off the stage. There were boos...starting with mentzers 5th place...but a few moments after Arnold was announced the boos turned to cheers. He left the stage to cheers.. you delusional retard. Mentzer left to the sound of boos and it haunted his weak ass for the rest of his life... and the lives of his pathetic cult.
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Royalty + beefcake are both incels and repressed homosexuals
Frank Zane, broke his penis, came in 3rd & still blew away mentzer.
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What I am dying to know is what’s the official standings of the 1980 Mr Olympia??
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What I am dying to know is what’s the official standings of the 1980 Mr Olympia??
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What I am dying to know is what’s the official standings of the 1980 Mr Olympia??
I think the official standing is Arnold won the show... Dickerson was 2nd, zane was 3rd.... Mentzer was all the way down in 5th.
What im dying to know is what became of mentzers 5th place trophy? Do you think it sat on his mantle collecting dust, a constant reminder of his failure? Looming over him, hanging like a rain cloud in a dimly lit apartment? To his dying day?
And with no descendants, where did it end up? In the hands of a disgusting, schweaty, schmoe like john little or worse royalty?
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At least you finally admit he was first. You should now work on your gay sex fantasy.
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Bevo, Humble Narcissist, Tacobender and Beakdoctor are “Dorian Cutler” aka “Goliathon”
Dangerous lunatic known as Army of One & Danimal77
Severe Bipolar Disorder. Lonely as fuck. Unemployable. Tiny Hands. Cannot ejaculate. Compulsive Liar. Photo Thief.
Often pretends to be a woman named “JustPlaneJane”
Most likely a registered sex offender. His Bevo account brags about how he spends his leisure time in public restrooms, leering at men’s genitals at the stand up urinals.
His “RMJ11” account once went on a 96 hour posting spree where he attacked Mike Mentzer non-stop. This RMJ11 account also claimed that he trained at Temple gym during Dorian’s reign.
This psychopath used to post under an account known as “Hulkster”. He claimed to be Ronnie’s biggest fan (until Ronnie ended up crippled). Hulkster rarely posts now.
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Bevo, Humble Narcissist, Tacobender and Beakdoctor are “Dorian Cutler” aka “Goliathon”
Dangerous lunatic known as Army of One & Danimal77
Severe Bipolar Disorder. Lonely as fuck. Unemployable. Tiny Hands. Cannot ejaculate. Compulsive Liar. Photo Thief.
Often pretends to be a woman named “JustPlaneJane”
Most likely a registered sex offender. His Bevo account brags about how he spends his leisure time in public restrooms, leering at men’s genitals at the stand up urinals.
His “RMJ11” account once went on a 96 hour posting spree where he attacked Mike Mentzer non-stop. This RMJ11 account also claimed that he trained at Temple gym during Dorian’s reign.
This psychopath used to post under an account known as “Hulkster”. He claimed to be Ronnie’s biggest fan (until Ronnie ended up crippled). Hulkster rarely posts now.
LOL, calm down weirdo.... Better be careful or you will end up like your hero, dead before the age of 50, sitting in a beat up recliner, alone with no one to pass your worthless trinkets on to.
(Actually, other than the dead before 50 part, you already are a lot like your hero. Loser with a head full of paranoid delusions)
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Bevo, Humble Narcissist, Tacobender and Beakdoctor are “Dorian Cutler” aka “Goliathon”
Dangerous lunatic known as Army of One & Danimal77
Severe Bipolar Disorder. Lonely as fuck. Unemployable. Tiny Hands. Cannot ejaculate. Compulsive Liar. Photo Thief.
Often pretends to be a woman named “JustPlaneJane”
Most likely a registered sex offender. His Bevo account brags about how he spends his leisure time in public restrooms, leering at men’s genitals at the stand up urinals.
His “RMJ11” account once went on a 96 hour posting spree where he attacked Mike Mentzer non-stop. This RMJ11 account also claimed that he trained at Temple gym during Dorian’s reign.
This psychopath used to post under an account known as “Hulkster”. He claimed to be Ronnie’s biggest fan (until Ronnie ended up crippled). Hulkster rarely posts now.
Nice detective work, Sherlock Holmes
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Nice detective work, Sherlock Holmes
Who do you suppose he is talking to?
If anyone cared about him they would surely arrange an intervention at this point.
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Great picture ...
Mentzer looks like he had the entire pectoral section removed,
WOoooSHHHHHHHHHHH
Looks like a swimmer. That's what happens when you eat 800 calories a day for contest prep.
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Looks like a swimmer. That's what happens when you eat 800 calories a day for contest prep.
It takes some nerves to stand next to the guy with the best chest on stage ...
It goes to show you how mentally fcked up Mentzer was
Whoshhhhhhhhhh 10.4.80
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^^^ All 3 have better chests than Mike in that lineup.
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^^^ All 3 have better chests than Mike in that lineup.
Everyone at that contest had better chest than Mike, except probably Tony Emmott who had a terrible gyno.
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Royalty, this is very shrewd of you. Playing this game. "Trolling" everyone. You're not really a geek obsessed with mentzer, who fantasizes about Arnold having gay sex. It was just a gag all along and you were merely trolling.
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even with the physique of his 15 years Arnold would have won.
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^^^ Perfect genetics for a bodybuilder. He probably got more pussy at 15 than any of his adult teachers.
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Royalty may have been born a premature baby. I bet he's the type of guy who's required to wear a helmet 247.
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Royalty may have been born a premature baby. I bet he's the type of guy who's required to wear a helmet 247.
You are a National Treasure 😂😂😂
Ladies and Gentleman..... Beakdoctor/Humble Narcissist and his biggest accomplishment in life:
“Banned” from a website designed for lonely men
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Arnold was bigger, better and dwarfed little mike
Go to bed Royalty... .your drunk
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You are a National Treasure 😂😂😂
Ladies and Gentleman..... Beakdoctor/Humble Narcissist and his biggest accomplishment in life:
“Banned” from a website designed for lonely men
And you are undoubtedly a homely disgrace. Between the two of us, you are the only one who's been to that site.
I don't know who danimal is but Im relatively certain whatever fireworks went on between you two is why he (and probably you) were banned from the site... probably why you're such a pathetic spaz here.
BTW the palm of my hand would crush your Underdeveloped face and mandible. Im certain you have a weak jaw line, no chin, pale, sickly, bruise easily. You were either a preemie or maybe fetal alcohol syndrome. Either way, you're definitely the type who has to wear a helmet- "for your own safety."
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Arnold was bigger, better and dwarfed little mike
Go to bed Royalty... .your drunk
End of discussion right there.
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Literally made him look like a child, look at the volume in arnolds arms compared to mike in that side comparison, shallower midsection, much larger and thicker chest. Bo one had enough to beat him.
End of discussion right there.
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And you are undoubtedly a homely disgrace. Between the two of us, you are the only one who's been to that site.
I don't know who danimal is but Im relatively certain whatever fireworks went on between you two is why he (and probably you) were banned from the site... probably why you're such a pathetic spaz here.
BTW the palm of my hand would crush your Underdeveloped face and mandible. Im certain you have a weak jaw line, no chin, pale, sickly, bruise easily. You were either a preemie or maybe fetal alcohol syndrome. Either way, you're definitely the type who has to wear a helmet- "for your own safety."
😂😂😂😂
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Mentzer had the thickness
Roy was thicker than Mentzer should have been 5th instead of Mentzer .
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHH 10.4.80
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Roy was thicker than Mentzer should have been 5th instead of Mentzer .
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHH 10.4.80
Danimal77 you have a lot of accounts 😂
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That's a great bdb, looks like granite, defined, prominent spinal erectors, christmas tree. Arnold beat everyone on all the comparisons.
😂😂😂😂
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That's a great bdb, looks like granite, defined, prominent spinal erectors, christmas tree. Arnold beat everyone on all the comparisons.
Danimal77 you have a lot of accounts 😂
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At this point Im starting to think Pamith has a higher IQ than royalty.
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Literally made him look like a child, look at the volume in arnolds arms compared to mike in that side comparison, shallower midsection, much larger and thicker chest. Bo one had enough to beat him.
Mentzer looked like a tiny tit next to the Austrian Oak.
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Mentzer had the thickness
Looks very narrow though.
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Looks very narrow though.
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=562516.0;attach=1506738;image)
The Mustache was the best on stage though.
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Looks like a 70's porn star rather than a bodybuilder.
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Dickerson vs Arnold
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Arnold on the left
Mentzer on the right
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Looks like a 70's porn star rather than a bodybuilder.
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Arnold was bigger, better and dwarfed little mike
Go to bed Royalty... .your drunk
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Arnold looks like he is a month out 😂
(Arnold is standing closer to the camera and he still looks like shit)
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Mike drank his own piss, directed traffic. Ran naked through the streets.
Tom Platz saw Mike in a ditch in a heap with piss stains and cum dribbling from his Mario stash...apparently Mike was clutching a mason jar full of warm piss
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Mike drank his own piss, directed traffic. Ran naked through the streets.
Tom Platz saw Mike in a ditch in a heap with piss stains and cum dribbling from his Mario stash...apparently Mike was clutching a mason jar full of warm piss
Hi RMJ11/Beakdoctor
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Mike drank his own piss, directed traffic. Ran naked through the streets.
Tom Platz saw Mike in a ditch in a heap with piss stains and cum dribbling from his Mario stash...apparently Mike was clutching a mason jar full of warm piss
Indeed. Ironically, these are the qualities that draw Royalty in to the mentzer cult. Many similar traits.
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Thanks Eric2 for posting that
Arnold looks like he is a month out 😂
(Arnold is standing closer to the camera and he still looks like shit)
Royalty puts a lot of stock into what the most bitter losers in the history of the sport say. This is a very attractive argument for Royalty because: Royalty = bitter loser.
The majority of the judges all said that Arnold won the show and mike was a distant 5th. This is what is reflected as the record of fact. Very easy to understand.
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Royalty puts a lot of stock into what the most bitter losers in the history of the sport say. This is a very attractive argument for Royalty because: Royalty = bitter loser.
The majority of the judges all said that Arnold won the show and mike was a distant 5th. This is what is reflected as the record of fact. Very easy to understand.
Very true, what opinions other competitors say decades later carry zero weight. They where never judges.
Royalty is trolling
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Eric2 and Beakdoctor are the same person talking each other.
This lunatic is mentally insane (Danimal77, RMJ11).
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Eric2 and Beakdoctor are the same person talking each other.
This lunatic is mentally insane (Danimal77, RMJ11).
What if I told you: each and every person you accuse of being a gimmick, is actually a real person who thinks you are an idiot.
Let that sink in.
Royalty = bitter loser.
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What if I told you: each and every person you accuse of being a gimmick, is actually a real person who thinks you are an idiot.
Let that sink in.
Royalty = bitter loser.
Ron himself could confirm this yet even if he did, Royalty would consider him a gimmick as well
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Ron himself could confirm this yet even if he did, Royalty would consider him a gimmick as well
ONLY ONE PERSON TALKS LIKE THIS.....
Mike drank his own piss, directed traffic. Ran naked through the streets.
Tom Platz saw Mike in a ditch in a heap with piss stains and cum dribbling from his Mario stash...apparently Mike was clutching a mason jar full of warm piss
BEAKDOCTOR/RMJ11
Mentzer Won
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Something is off in that gmv footage, like the bottom portion of the video is stretched, Mike's and arnolds legs both look half the size.
But come on Mike's chest is shallow, midsection pushed out, arnolds traps and shoulder width swallow up mentzers pinched shoulders like he's a little girl.
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ONLY ONE PERSON TALKS LIKE THIS.....
This is a great example of how easily Arnold makes the tiny Mike Menthol look bad. Poor poor Mike, never got an Olympia.
Instead of buckling down and getting it right he cries like a bitch for the rest of his life, drinks quarts of piss and sperm and gets hooked on pills.
What a mental genius he was
BEAKDOCTOR/RMJ11
Mentzer Won
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Something is off in that gmv footage, like the bottom portion of the video is stretched, Mike's and arnolds legs both look half the size.
But come on Mike's chest is shallow, midsection pushed out, arnolds traps and shoulder width swallow up mentzers pinched shoulders like he's a little girl.
Give it up Beakdoctor 😂
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ONLY ONE PERSON TALKS LIKE THIS.....
BEAKDOCTOR/RMJ11
Mentzer Won
These are the cries of a bitter loser.
Royaty, losing his sanity, grasping at straws, eerily similar parallels to mike mentzer.
Could a warm jar of piss be in Royalty's future? A visit to the psyche ward? Nude sprints down santa monica blvd? Nesting in a bioswale? Delusions of grandeur?
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Thank you Eric2 for providing Getbig with this footage 😃
MENTZER IS KILLING ARNOLD
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Thank you Eric2 for providing Getbig withis footage 😃
Yes a gaunt Arnold dwarfing mikes all time best condition.
Thank you for posting.
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Yes a gaunt Arnold dwarfing mikes all time best condition.
Thank you for posting.
Arnold is a month out 😂😂😂😂
Standing closer to the camera too... Arnold’s was desperate 😂
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Arnold is a month out 😂😂😂😂
Standing closer to the camera too... Arnold’s was desperate 😂
The sad ramblings of a lunatic.
I believe Royalty is the gimmick account of Jocelyn Pelletier.
Prove me wrong.
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The sad ramblings of a lunatic.
I believe Royalty is the gimmick account of Jocelyn Pelletier.
Prove me wrong.
Give it up Beakdoctor/RMJ11 😂
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Give it up Beakdoctor/RMJ11 😂
Holy fuck!! You have a FOOT fetish too!
Jocelyn, you are one sick fuck!!
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Give it up Beakdoctor/RMJ11 😂
Arnolds foot is (as well as his cock) is just bigger than the tiny tit Mentzer was.
Royalty is a troll 🧌
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Holy fuck!! You have a FOOT fetish too!
Jocelyn, you are one sick fuck!!
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Just look at the mammoth size of Arnold's Armour plated chest.
Makes mike look like a little lady bug next to him
I bet Mike was internally weeping like a child knowing he stood zero chance against Arnold's massive structure
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Just look at the mammoth size of Arnold's Armour plated chest.
Makes mike look like a little lady bug next to him
I bet Mike was internally weeping like a child knowing he stood zero chance against Arnold's massive structure
Those aren’t pecs. Those are 2 glazed donuts. 😂
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Best abs ever 🤣
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Those aren’t pecs. Those are 2 glazed donuts. 😂
Speaking of glazed......what sort of solvent regimen do you use to remove hobo cum stains from your clothing?
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Everyone looks glossy in these stills coz the pixel ratio is low.
Arnolds chest was granite, he was ripped and defined,
great condition.
Those aren’t pecs. Those are 2 glazed donuts. 😂
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ARNOLD WAS SHREDDED LOL
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
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BEAKDOCTOR IS OFFICIALLY ON SUICIDE WATCH
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“TAKE FRANCO TO THE ZOO”
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Arnold was practicing his role for Kindergarten Cop, taking lil' Mike to school, holding his hand.
I don't know what you guys are seeing, what I see is, even an off Arnold is dwarfing Mike.
Mike had amazing build, crazy muscle bellies, and had great development on though to be good bodyparts, such as forearms, calves, deltoids but next to Arnold he doesn't look impressive at all. No wonder he lost his mind over it...
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Arnold was practicing his role for Kindergarten Cop, taking lil' Mike to school, holding his hand.
I don't know what you guys are seeing, what I see is, even an off Arnold is dwarfing Mike.
Mike had amazing build, crazy muscle bellies, and had great development on though to be good bodyparts, such as forearms, calves, deltoids but next to Arnold he doesn't look impressive at all. No wonder he lost his mind over it...
Mentzer won.
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Mentzer won.
You forgot say, Simon says. Now it all makes sense, you are as delusional as your idol.
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You forgot say, Simon says. Now it all makes sense, you are as delusional as your idol.
Hi Beakdoctor
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It is commendable to have a sunken chest in an era of great chests. Even worse, standing next to Roy Callender, who had amazing chest development, even when in a relaxed pose.
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It is commendable to have a sunken chest in an era of great chests. Even worse, standing next to Roy Callender, who had amazing chest development, even when in a relaxed pose.
Mentzer Won
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I’m sure mentzer was 5th place , that’s what the final scorecard reads
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I’m sure mentzer was 5th place , that’s what the final scorecard reads
Let’s not forget Arnold’s “relationship” with 1980 Olympia promoter Paul Graham.
Mentzer annihilated Arnold on stage.
If Arnold takes a step back, and stands directly next to Mike.... it would get a lot worse for Arnold 😂
This ain’t even close
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I’m sure mentzer was 5th place , that’s what the final scorecard reads
I can imagine he is high from sniffing Mike's soiled posing trunks as he is writing those nonsense.
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I can imagine he is high from sniffing Mike's soiled posing trunks as he is writing those nonsense.
^^^Beakdoctor is afraid to post under his account ^^^
I own that Phaggit
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Despite Arnold standing closer to the camera, it obvious that Arnold’s abs & quads were ‘amateurish’
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Arnold is in offseason conditioning
Nice fucking abs 🤣
Zero quads
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You own nothing but soiled manties.
The only thing you "own" of mine are the pictures of me that you saved to your computer.
Why do you save pictures of me in your computer Jocelyn? Don't answer. Everyone already knows you're a disgusting schmoe.
^^^Beakdoctor is afraid to post under his account ^^^
I own that Phaggit
Royalty is the gimmick account of jocelyn Pelletier. He will never post a pic. He looks like a blob of shit.
He only has 4 more hours of posting before his computer is taken away from him for the evening.
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You own nothing but soiled manties.
The only thing you "own" of mine are the pictures of me that you saved to your computer.
Why do you save pictures of me in your computer Jocelyn? Don't answer. Everyone already knows you're a disgusting schmoe.
Royalty is the gimmick account of jocelyn Pelletier. He will never post a pic. He looks like a blob of shit.
He only has 4 more hours of posting before his computer is taken away from him for the evening.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=644927.0
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All thes pics seem to show Arnold dwarfing everyone else.
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All thes pics seem to show Arnold dwarfing everyone else.
Yes 💯 percent. Not only dwarfing yet far superior esthetics, muscle separation, posing, charisma the whole package.
Arnold clearly destroyed the weak little men of 1980.
In fact the first thing he destroyed was their will. Just at his announcement that he was to compete broke them and what ever will they had to win.
In effect they lost before they put their little posing trunk on.
If they where so damn good they would not have complained before the show started when he announced his entry. They would have been like...."ok good luck with that".
I stead they all got emotional and cried like bitches
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Pretty fucking solid here, look at the legs too
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All thes pics seem to show Arnold dwarfing everyone else.
:D No shit! That contest wasn't as close as many would like us to believe.
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Arnold should have done more incline presses. His upper pecs went to hell.
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Arnold should have done more incline presses. His upper pecs went to hell.
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All these screenshots show is arnold dwarfing mike and showing up his flaws, his pinched shoulders and thin chest.
Arnold should have done more incline presses. His upper pecs went to hell.
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Basically everyone here sees that Arnold was superior than Mentzer, except one man...
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Basically everyone here sees that Arnold was superior than Mentzer, except one man...
You can make an argument for Arnold not winning but Mentzer wasn't winning the show at all. People were shocked to see Arnold less than his former glory but the whole thing everyone doesn't understand is if Arnold did lose and decided to train fully and come back like he did in 1974 NO ONE in that line-up is beating him at all! I personally think he was good enough to win , I wasn't there and only basing it off of pictures and limited poor quality video clips though so maybe he did deserve to lose but it is what it is Arnold got the Sandow
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Arnold vs the manlets.
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Arnold vs the manlets.
With each picture tgat gets posted of this show it becomes more obvious Arnold was the clear winner.
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With each picture tgat gets posted of this show it becomes more obvious Arnold was the clear winner.
What makes it even better is the photos will just keep coming from Royalty the retard. His self owning is great entertainment.
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Arnold genetically only has 2 rows of abs but look how much deeper and defined they are than mentzers with his bloated stomach and abs thinly drawn on.
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MENTZER WON in 1980
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MENTZER WON in 1980
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Arnold got PUNKED
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Arnold got PUNKED
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This defines Mike Mentzer. A quitter! His ego was destroyed because he couldn't beat Zane in 1979 and then Arnold put the nail in the coffin in 1980. A real champion doesn't quit at the first sign of adversity they keep pushing forward
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Mentzer was probably more pissed losing to zane.
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Mentzer was probably more pissed losing to zane.
Again....
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MENTZER WON in 1980
MENTZER WON THE 5TH PLACE TROPHY IN 1980
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Arnold got PUNKED
ARNOLD WON 1ST PLACE. MENTZER WAGGED HIS FINGER (the highlight of his life) THEN WENT HOBO/HOMO.
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MENTZER WON
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DOMINATION
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THICKNESS
M E N T Z E R WON
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MENTZER QUIT
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“Damn it. I should have snorted more cocaine”
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“Arnold was dry a champ in 1980”
😂😂😂
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Mike was mentally weak. Couldn’t hack it. Unfortunately his heart was even weaker in 2001
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ENDLESS CHORUS OF BOOING
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ENDLESS CHORUS OF BOOING
Royalty will use just about any excuse to zoom in on Arnolds ass. Royalty is a creepy fucker.
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Royalty will use just about any excuse to zoom in on Arnolds ass. Royalty is a creepy fucker.
Remember when you thought that Arnold’s fat roll was actually his lower lat??
That was comedy gold 😃
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Remember when you thought that Arnold’s fat roll was actually his lower lat??
That was comedy gold 😃
No one remembers it because its another delusion you just made up. And to be clear, no one considers anything you say to be "comedy gold."
I remember when your stupidity got you banned from Getbig and everyone laughed their asses off at what a fool you are.
Do you remember that? Watching you work your way into a time out was pure comedy. Though it probably felt more like a tragedy to such lonely incel.
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MENTZER QUIT
No big loss. Bodybuilding is better off without him.
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No big loss. Bodybuilding is better off without him.
A very weak minded individual who believed his own publicity
& got his arse handed to him at the 80 Olympia & never recovered
quite pathetic really
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Just because they had stated that doesn't mean it's true.
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A very weak minded individual who believed his own publicity
& got his arse handed to him at the 80 Olympia & never recovered
quite pathetic really
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Arnold is still bigger and better than Roger and Mike, also he is farther away in the picture and still bigger and better
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MIKE MENTZER won the 1980 Mr Olympia 5th place contest
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Arnold is still bigger and better than Roger and Mike, also he is farther away in the picture and still bigger and better
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Arnold worked out for 8 weeks and bested the weak line up at the 1980 with barely 75% of his prime. They all cried like witches. Hahahahah
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Arnold is still bigger and better than Roger and Mike, also he is farther away in the picture and still bigger and better
Yeah.. it was fairly close between him and Dickerson and Zane. But he dominated mentzer.
The posts by royalty are really sad. Delusional. Pathetic attempt to wrestle with reality. He needs help.
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Yeah.. it was fairly close between him and Dickerson and Zane. But he dominated mentzer.
The posts by royalty are really sad. Delusional. Pathetic attempt to wrestle with reality. He needs help.
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Just look at Arnold dwarf little mike and his bloated belly ;D
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Just look at Arnold dwarf little mike and his bloated belly ;D
Hi Danimal77
Oh that’s Arnold? I thought that it was a glazed donut!!!
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Yeah.. it was fairly close between him and Dickerson and Zane. But he dominated mentzer.
The posts by royalty are really sad. Delusional. Pathetic attempt to wrestle with reality. He needs help.
Correct he definitely needs a lot of psychological intervention - it seems he's lost grip on reality.
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Beakdoctor the next time you still a pic it better be someone a little bigger
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(https://www.researchgate.net/publication/352817535/figure/fig3/AS:1040001202675714@1624967017421/Completeness-diagram-of-the-skeleton-Drawing-by-Y-Nagar.ppm)
This is the current pic of mentzer
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Is this supposed to be some kind of an insult or something?
Is this your attempt at wit or humor?
Or is it just your obsession with me coming to a raging head?
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This is the current pic of mentzer
Forgot the mustache
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 10.4.80
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still has more muscle than this dj character. But dj's waist is smaller !!!
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Forgot the mustache
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 10.4.80
still has more muscle than this dj character. But dj's waist is smaller !!!
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You created the account on that site and used Danimal77 as your username! What a child!
Only the kind of idiot who can't figure out how to reverse a camera lens on a smart phone would think that creating an account using someone elses name would actually fool people.
LOL, fucking Tard.
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The bubble gut pioneer Mentzer had no chance of winning that contest.
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You can make an argument for Arnold not winning but Mentzer wasn't winning the show at all. People were shocked to see Arnold less than his former glory but the whole thing everyone doesn't understand is if Arnold did lose and decided to train fully and come back like he did in 1974 NO ONE in that line-up is beating him at all! I personally think he was good enough to win , I wasn't there and only basing it off of pictures and limited poor quality video clips though so maybe he did deserve to lose but it is what it is Arnold got the Sandow
True. If Arnold lost in 80 this would've made him come back next year with a serious prep and destroy the competition. The thing is no one from that era could've stop him if he wanted to win more Olympias.
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True. If Arnold lost in 80 this would've made him come back next year with a serious prep and destroy the competition. The thing is no one from that era could've stop him if he wanted to win more Olympias.
Yes, your right .Arnold could have gone right up to 1984 barring possible injuries. Fact is he was not driven to go that long. He had no desire to win more than 5
Olympias.
He was convinced to enter the 75 for Pumping Iron which meant exposure for his acting goals. Which proved very beneficial for him
He entered the 1980 not because he wanted another Sandow.
He entered because he wanted to silence Mike Mentzer for his criticism towards Arnold and Joe Weider. Not to mention it would help promote his Conan movie.
I remember this contest well when it happened as well as the aftermath. You did not hear much from Mentzer until he got exposure from his revitalized career in his Heavy Duty years later.
Mike Mentzers claim to fame is his competing in the 1980. Had he not done so nobody would know who he was.
His fans think he should have won because he had a perfect score of 300 prior at a Universe contest
Well Mentzer claimed the system was rigged and corrupt
How do you think his competitors at his 300 score universe felt about that. Was his Universe contest rigged as well?
Or does his narrative only fit when it applies to his losing?
Mike was a weak champion. One whom felt cheated when he thought so highly of himself. He thought he was going to just walk on stage and be guaranteed a win.
Mike in his best condition was not good enough to beat Arnold at his worse.
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:o Absolutely brutal!
He didn't recover...
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Arnold literally destroying mike here
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Arnold literally destroying mike here
Are you drunk?
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Are you drunk?
Just look at the size difference. Arnolds large Armour plated chest next to little mike and his bloated belly and Mario stash
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Just look at the size difference. Arnolds large Armour plated chest next to little mike and his bloated belly and Mario stash
Arnold “Glazed Donut” Schwarzenegger
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Arnold “Glazed Donut” Schwarzenegger
Mike "pot belly" Mentzer
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Arnold “Glazed Donut” Schwarzenegger
Let's get real here. ARNOLD could have shown up in a fucking wheel chair and still won against little mike
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Mentzer wins pecs, biceps, delts, abs, traps, conditioning
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Mentzer wins pecs, biceps, delts, abs, traps, conditioning
Mentzer winning "Bloated distended Belly" category here
Well done
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Arnold KILLING mike in these photos....
"Alas, poor mentzer, I knew him well, a fellow without a chest, and a bulging belly"
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Arnold KILLING mike in these photos....
"Alas, poor mentzer, I knew him well, a fellow without a chest, and a bulging belly"
Are you drunk?
Arnold has zero definition.
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Are you drunk?
Arnold has zero definition.
No. In fact I am correct. Arnold is the 1980 Mr. Olympia.
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Mentzer won the crowd over...
...so they booed Arnold unmercifully
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According to Pet Shop Boys.... the loud booing was captured by CBS (and is the reason for this thread)
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According to Pet Shop Boys.... the loud booing was captured by CBS (and is the reason for this thread)
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No. CBS didn't end up sending a crew. The only camera crew there was following Arnold for a documentary. And that's that.
Tough pill to swallow but you'll manage.
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No. CBS didn't end up sending a crew. The only camera crew there was following Arnold for a documentary. And that's that.
Tough pill to swallow but you'll manage.
Pet Shop Boys said that the booing was very loud... and very obvious
John Hansen said that “60 Minutes” was going to investigate the 1980 Olympia because everyone from CBS said that Arnold definitely lost 😂
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Joe: “I know about you and Paul Graham”
Arnold: “We are in love sir”
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Mentzer won the crowd over...
...so they booed Arnold unmercifully
Arnold seriously outsmarting and out massing the tiny mental midget that mike was.
Arnold adds his 7th Sandow to his trophy 🏆 collection. While mike goes into the streets and buries his cock into hobo butt
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Arnold seriously outsmarting and out massing the tiny mental midget that mike was.
Arnold adds his 7th Sandow to his trophy 🏆 collection. While mike goes into the streets and buries his cock into hobo butt
Netflix forgot to mention this “Victory” LOL 😂
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Netflix forgot to mention this “Victory” LOL 😂
Well after 6 titles the 7th time making everyone else on stage look pathetic is just old news and boring
His list of accomplishments are longer than the throngs of Heavy Duty disciples waiting for their results of immediate muscle gains
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Well after 6 titles the 7th time making everyone else on stage look pathetic is just old news and boring
His list of accomplishments are longer than the throngs of Heavy Duty disciples waiting for their results of immediate muscle gains
Translation: “Arnold’s lawyers threatened Netflix with a lawsuit”
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Translation: “Arnold’s lawyers threatened Netflix with a lawsuit”
That's a lot to unpack and speculation at best.
Your assumption that Netflix had a desire to make Arnold look bad is hillarious. They showcase his series as well as movies.
Why would they wish to take issue with him regarding what the general public considers a circus sport, yet know Arnold for his action movies as well as his work in charities, politics and much more.
Your literally grasping at straw here.
Nobody but thong worshipers know of the 1980 Olympia
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Pet Shop Boys said that the booing was very loud... and very obvious
John Hansen said that “60 Minutes” was going to investigate the 1980 Olympia because everyone from CBS said that Arnold definitely lost 😂
Because CBS are such experts in judging contests. ::)
They were told so by the crying bitches Mike and Boyer...
There were many who were there and said Arnold deserved to win, including Wayne Gallash, Joe Gold, John Terrilli, Robert Nailon, Danny Padilla, Roy Callendar, Bill Reinolds, Bill Drake, Jorge Butler etc, etc.
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Because CBS are such experts in judging contests. ::)
They were told so by the crying bitches Mike and Boyer...
There were many who were there and said Arnold deserved to win, including Wayne Gallash, Joe Gold, John Terrilli, Robert Nailon, Danny Padilla, Roy Callendar, Bill Reinolds, Bill Drake, Jorge Butler etc, etc.
Looks like another slimy gimmick has crawled out of the basement
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Looks like another slimy gimmick has crawled out of the basement
Don't you tire of looking the fool of this crazed obsession of mentzer losing the 1980 Olympia?
Time to log out of your computer, put down the cheesy poofs, rotate from wearing a diaper and put on some grown up pants.
Get your fat ass outside and breath some fresh air
Your mom's basement is not a good place to go through life
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Don't you tire of looking the fool of this crazed obsession of mentzer losing the 1980 Olympia?
Time to log out of your computer, put down the cheesy poofs, rotate from wearing a diaper and put on some grown up pants.
Get your fat ass outside and breath some fresh air
Your mom's basement is not a good place to go through life
How may accounts do you have dedicated to this thread? LOL
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How may accounts do you have dedicated to this thread? LOL
I know it's hard for to believe that so many of us here think your nuts.
Your disbelief leads you to assume users have multiple accounts
Trust me, I only use one account
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How may accounts do you have dedicated to this thread? LOL
(http://drop the cheesy poofs, turn off your computer, exchange your diaper for adult trousers, get yourbfat ass outside and leave mentzer in the grave.......let it go)
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I know it's hard for to believe that so many of us here think your nuts.
Your disbelief leads you to assume users have multiple accounts
Trust me, I only use one account
Hi Beakdoctor
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The entire world wants to emulate Mike Mentzer
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The entire world wants to emulate Mike Mentzer
Yeah, one over priced, over marketed, inadequate, useless, worthless supplements line (kind of like heavy duty heavily hyped but doesn't work) constitutes "the entire world."
Royalmelt you are one goofy son of a bitch.
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Yeah, one over priced, over marketed, inadequate, useless, worthless supplements line (kind of like heavy duty heavily hyped but doesn't work) constitutes "the entire world."
Royalmelt you are one goofy son of a bitch.
Somebody sounds jealous
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Somebody sounds jealous
Jealous of mike?
No thanks. I prefer my lot in life to his.
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Jealous of mike?
No thanks. I prefer my lot in life to his.
But you’re obsessed with urine
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Looks like another slimy gimmick has crawled out of the basement
Wait a minute! Am I another account of Danimama77? LOL :D
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Half of the judges in 1980 were the same ones that gave Mentzer a perfect score in the heavyweight class of the 1979 Olympia. Yet, no one had Mike first in 1980. They either had Arnold or Dickerson winning. Not a single judge voted for Mentzer.
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But you’re obsessed with urine
Yeah, sure. And you are obsessed with me, you fucking fruit.
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Awesome pics of Doug Brolus ND !!!
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Mentzer won
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Mentzer won
Arnold absolutely smashes mentzer in this and all future shots you can scare.up.
Mentzer lost, went nuts, took pills, fucked hobos, drank piss, chain smoke 🚬 himself into an early grave.
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Mentzer was barely bigger than Zane and less cut.
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Half of the judges in 1980 were the same ones that gave Mentzer a perfect score in the heavyweight class of the 1979 Olympia. Yet, no one had Mike first in 1980. They either had Arnold or Dickerson winning. Not a single judge voted for Mentzer.
Ouchhhhh
WOshhhhhh 10.4.80
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WOshhhhhh 10.4.80
Arnold shared an apartment with the promoter who rigged the contest
Arnold and the promoter were “more than friends”
Gay for Pay 😂
➖Arnold was booed off of the stage➖
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Awesome pics of Doug Brolus ND !!!
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Zero triceps. Shitty legs. Cocaine.
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White Trash RDB
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Poor fella was in tears. No wonder why he quit. Arnold crushed his enemies and saw them driven before him
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Fat gut Mentzers bloat belly ;D
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The entire world wants to emulate Mike Mentzer
Wrong. Those Old School Labs supplements have the pic of Roger Callard on them, not methzer.
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Wrong. Those Old School Labs supplements have the pic of Roger Callard on them, not methzer.
Speaking of Roger. Roger Walker said that Arnold lost to Mentzer.
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Fat gut Mentzers bloat belly ;D
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Speaking of Roger. Roger Walker said that Arnold won against Mentzer.
Corrected.
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What’s that on Paul Graham? A urine spot? Semen perhaps?
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What’s that on Paul Graham? A urine spot? Semen perhaps?
Coffee stain or just trick of the light.
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Poor fella was in tears. No wonder why he quit. Arnold crushed his enemies and saw them driven before him
Poor mentzer !
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It looks like CBS discovered the semen
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It looks like CBS discovered the semen
....... in mentzers mustache.
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Poor fella was in tears. No wonder why he quit. Arnold crushed his enemies and saw them driven before him
Excellent post ND. A true gem in a thread full of tripe.
It merits a repost.
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Interesting article on Mike gives an insight to his psychology and how his failure precipitated his downward spiral and fall from grace
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^^^ I never understand why athletes make predictions like this. It adds nothing if you end up winning and makes you look stupid if you lose.
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Poor fella was in tears. No wonder why he quit. Arnold crushed his enemies and saw them driven before him
No his friends did that. Arnold used people but also went on his knees & still does for his "Elite" friends.
A prostitute
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Interesting article on Mike gives an insight to his psychology and how his failure precipitated his downward spiral and fall from grace
That's interesting insight on Mike's self doubt and fear of failure.
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Mentzer made Arnold look skinny and fat
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What’s that on Paul Graham? A urine spot? Semen perhaps?
Mentzer's tears.
Next question.
WOoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 10.4.80
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Mentzer's tears.
Next question.
WOoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 10.4.80
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Arnold was too skinny
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Mentzer's tears.
Next question.
WOoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 10.4.80
OOOOUUUUCCCHHHH.
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Responding to yourself again LOL
Paul Graham shared an apartment with Arnold. Arnold lived with a schmoe. You will never be able to change that fact 😃
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Mentzer is way thicker than Arnold
Ouch
He was way thicker in the ass, that's for sure...
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Great read. Brutal ownership by Arnold.
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Seriously why was Paul Graham’s boyfriend Arnold so fucking skinny??
Back = shit
Triceps= shit
Thighs= shit
Arnold getting destroyed...
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Mentzer is way thicker than Arnold
Ouch
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Talking to yourself again.
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Talking to yourself again.
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A better question to ask yourself is why has everyone stopped giving a shit about the gibberish that you post?
Arnold stomped a hole so deep in mentzers ass that he never ever recovered and over the course of the next 20 years mentzer disgraced himself, shriveled up worse than your penis, and slowly died..... best known as a guy who lost to Arnold....
Which is still better than you, a guy best known for your desperate search for semen stained pants.
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A better question to ask yourself is why has everyone stopped giving a shit about the gibberish that you post?
Arnold stomped a hole so deep in mentzers ass that he never ever recovered and over the course of the next 20 years mentzer disgraced himself, shriveled up worse than your penis, and slowly died..... best known as a guy who lost to Arnold....
Which is still better than you, a guy best known for your desperate search for semen stained pants.
Hi Danimal77. Unlike you, I don’t worry about what complete strangers think of me 😂
I’m here to defend Mentzer from your unhinged rants
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Arnold was a skinny little bitch
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Arnold was a skinny little bitch
Mentzer was an emaciated meth whore. Arnold stomped him into the ground. Mentzer fell to his knees and sobbed.
You search for semen in your spare time.... which is every single day.
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Do you do a lot of "wet humping" is your search for sperm? Is the one bedroom, mirrored apartment similar to a Jackson pollock painting?
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Roger Walker: “Arnold deserved 9th place”
Frank Zane: “Arnold was booed off of the stage”
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GROSS! Just stop you perv.
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Arnold looks amazing here, no question he won the 1980.
Arnold went on to become an author, highest paid and biggest block buster action star of near 2 decades, became a govoner, fucked a Kennedy, then a maid...his seed is so potent he created another Conan
He now seeks a better world 🌎 via green technology, ever looking for the next challenge and goal. This terminator machine just keeps crushing his enemies.
He could lay back on his Billion dollar empire and smoke his stogies.....but no he just keeps finding new goals to crush. Love him or hate him.. he is a get bigger on the highest level
Not sure who this little Mike fella was...
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What is this jiggling jelly there? The object of your wet dreams?
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What is this jiggling jelly there? The object of your wet dreams?
Fully Tensed Arnold vs Fully Relaxed Mentzer
Mentzer is still winning 😂
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Fully Tensed Arnold vs Fully Relaxed Mentzer
Mentzer is still winning 😂
Normally you post pictures of fully relaxed Arnold to suit your narrative...
Here is a fully flexed Mike - makes no difference on the fat ass.
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Seriously why was Paul Graham’s boyfriend Arnold so fucking skinny??
Back = shit
Triceps= shit
Thighs= shit
Arnold getting destroyed...
Dickerson is destroying Arnold there
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Guaranteed Royalty has this as his screensaver and is licking the screen. Guaranteed.
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Dickerson is destroying Arnold there
He does take that shot but the moment they hit the poses Arnold looks better in both BDB and RLS, plus he is taking the other 3 quarterturns as well.
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The best Olympia comeback in it's 60 years history.😉
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Hansen was in the audience. Samir was onstage
Both said that Arnold did not win.
Plus the crowd booed Arnold’s skinny ass off of the stage (Zane)
Boyer Coe said Arnold was not in the top 5.
Roger Walker said that Arnold deserved 9th place.
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Arnold was dog shit
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This is why Arnold’s sorry ass was booed by the fans
Looking lost & confused
Must’ve been the cocaine.
Luckily for him, he fucked the male promoter
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Worst condition to ever step foot on an Olympia stage
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Dickerson is destroying Arnold there
You’re damn right !!!
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Arnold shitty hamstrings vs Mentzer & Dickerson
Arnold was skin and bones
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Most of the competitors looked like skinny anorexics compared to Arnold.
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Arnold wins every mandatory, from the side everyone disappears next to him, no depth. His back is proper wide in that rls but he didn't place his hands infront so it made his arms look long and distracting.
No ones calves looked as good from the back, no one was good enough to beat him.
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Hansen was in the audience. Samir was onstage
Both said that Arnold did not win.
Plus the crowd booed Arnold’s skinny ass off of the stage (Zane)
Boyer Coe said Arnold was not in the top 5.
Roger Walker said that Arnold deserved 9th place.
Hansen wasn't there .
WOoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Hansen was in the audience. Samir was onstage
Both said that Arnold did not win.
Plus the crowd booed Arnold’s skinny ass off of the stage (Zane)
Boyer Coe said Arnold was not in the top 5.
Roger Walker said that Arnold deserved 9th place.
LOL! Hansen wasn't in the audience, get your "facts" straight! He was just interviewing people who were there.
Wayne Gallash, Robert Nailon, Joe Gold were seating in the best places in the Opera House, in the VIP behind the judges and they all said Arnold looked the best on stage.
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Arnold shitty hamstrings vs Mentzer & Dickerson
Arnold was skin and bones
That's about the only area they were better than him and it was the least important for that era.
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Hansen was in the audience. Samir was onstage
Both said that Arnold did not win.
Plus the crowd booed Arnold’s skinny ass off of the stage (Zane)
Boyer Coe said Arnold was not in the top 5.
Roger Walker said that Arnold deserved 9th place.
So..... wait... you're saying Samir said Arnold lost? And Boyer Coe said Arnold wasn't even in the top 5 and Roger Walker said Arnold deserved 9th?
OK... thats all new information. I've never heard that before.
Except for the three thousand times you've already posted it. You aspy fucking tard.
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Arnold was skin and bones
:o :o :o ;D ;D ;D
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So..... wait... you're saying Samir said Arnold lost? And Boyer Coe said Arnold wasn't even in the top 5 and Roger Walker said Arnold deserved 9th?
OK... thats all new information. I've never heard that before.
Except for the three thousand times you've already posted it. You aspy fucking tard.
Arnold was skinny and he fucked Paul Graham 😂
Placings didn’t matter, it was not a contest.... it was a Gay For Pay Hootenanny.
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What the fuck is that THING? Looks like an AIDS patient.
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What the fuck is that THING? Looks like an AIDS patient.
SKIN & BONES
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The only thing that’s bones these days is Mentzer
That was brutal ;D
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That was brutal ;D
A solid 5 out of 5 on the mentzer-sperm-soaked-mustache-scale.
(A quote appropriated from BB)
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That was brutal ;D
He also looks like a swimmer there.
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The only thing that’s bones these days is Mentzer
Fact: Mikes hair and nails continued to grow for up to a week after his death but Heavy Duty phone consultations quickly tapered off.
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SKINNY BOY ARNOLD WAS BOOED OFF THE STAGE
Nice 16.5” biceps
As expected, Legs were complete garbage
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Arnold was standing closer to the camera too.
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Mentzer wasn’t even flexing... and he still destroyed Arnold
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Mentzer Kicked Ass
but Good Ole’ Paul took care of the final outcome (happy ending achieved)
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SKINNY BOY ARNOLD WAS BOOED OFF THE STAGE
Nice 16.5” biceps
As expected, Legs were complete garbage
Nice 7 month pregnant belly and fat ass wider than his back...
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The bitch that is sitting with his legs crossed, lied about not attending his own father’s funeral.
Was the ghost of Arnold’s father cheering on Mentzer?
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Wow! Arnold looks amazing!! Superior genetics, his seed is passed down to his kids
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‘ARNOLD WAS HERE’
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Wow! Arnold looks amazing!! Superior genetics, his seed is passed down to his kids
Mentzer's seed was passed down a hobo's throat.
Absolutely shameful.
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Mentzer's seed was passed down a hobo's throat.
Absolutely shameful.
The charade is over.
Everybody knows that you and Bevo are the same person fuck face.
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The charade is over.
Everybody knows that you and Bevo are the same person fuck face.
No shit! You already know this and I admitted it. I have a dozen other gimmicks as well
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The charade is over.
Everybody knows that you and Bevo are the same person fuck face.
The charade only exists in your head, Royalty.
But do you know what is really over?
The 1980 Mr. Olympia is over..... and so is Mentzer.
Another charade- of sorts - that only exits in your head. Like the eternal battle of good vs. evil, of elias vs. barnes, of willard vs. kurtz, Arnold and Mentzer are locked in a bitter pose down on an imaginary stage in your head, battling for the posession of your soul, costing you your sanity.
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The charade only exists in your head, Royalty.
But do you know what is really over?
The 1980 Mr. Olympia is over..... and so is Mentzer.
Another charade- of sorts - that only exits in your head. Like the eternal battle of good vs. evil, of elias vs. barnes, of willard vs. kurtz, Arnold and Mentzer are locked in a bitter pose down on an imaginary stage in your head, battling for the posession of your soul, costing you your sanity.
Hi RMJ11 😂
AKA “Dorian Cutler”
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Hi RMJ11 😂
AKA “Dorian Cutler”
Go easy on the cock coke, not to end up your like your chump champ
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Go easy on the cock coke, not to end up your like your chump champ
Hi Danimal77
Arnold snorted cocaine off of Paul Graham’s scrotum
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Hi Danimal77
Arnold snorted cocaine off of Paul Graham’s scrotum
Do your parents know how much of your free time is spent writing fiction about Paul Graham’s genitals?
You really need to examine yourself. You're losing it, Royalty. Your post history could be a case study.
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Do your parents know how much of your free time is spent writing fiction about Paul Graham’s genitals?
You really need to examine yourself. You're losing it, Royalty. Your post history could be a case study.
Arnold lived with a schmoe.
Arnold was employed by a schmoe.
Accept it.
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Arnold lived with a schmoe.
Arnold was employed by a schmoe.
Accept it.
I don't know what Arnold did. I don't care what he did. Im certain everything you post is fantasy, fiction, it only exists in your 4 walled world.
Accept it.
Royalty just fucking admit it already. You're a Goddamned filthy, good for nothing, lurid, schmomosexual.
Everybody already knows it. Royalty = repressed schmobo.
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Arnold lived with a schmoe.
Arnold was employed by a schmoe.
Accept it.
Mentzer had his intimate moments too...
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Mentzer had his intimate moments too...
Mentzers shmoe moments are well documented. Mentzer really explored the sordid shmoe underbelly of venice beach in the 80's.
Royalty lives in denial of mentzers truly depraved years... just like he lives in denial of his own debauched sexuality.
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About Beakdoctor aka RMJ11
He is Danimal77. He has Borderline Personality Disorder and Bi-Polar disorder. He is a pathological liar.
He doesn’t have the ability to stop. This guy will mimic, copycat, parrot, and lie for eternity.
He seeks attention.
He has dozens of accounts. He posts all day and all night. The mods failed to do their job with this psychopathic bastard. They should’ve banned all of his accounts years ago.
Trolling him is the only way to communicate with him.
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Translation:
Bitter, 15th place loser's irrelevant opinion; incessantly quoted by retard 44 years after bodybuilding contest.
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^^^ I have noticed since I used the “translation” post last week... you have gone into copycat mode.
You offer nothing original. You just mimick others. Yawn. Generation Nothingness.
Hi Danimal77
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HIV Positive Winner
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^^^ I have noticed since I used the “translation” post last week... you have gone into copycat mode.
You offer nothing original. You just mimick others. Yawn. Generation Nothingness.
Hi Danimal77
I have no idea what "translation " post you made.
Your posts suck. You're not funny. I don't copy anything you say because Id never want to be mistaken for a closeted , basket case.
I used this in response to you constantly posting some losers opinion about the contest.
You are the retard. Samir is the 15th place loser. Hope this helps, floozy.
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I have no idea what "translation " post you made.
Your posts suck. You're not funny. I don't copy anything you say because Id never want to be mistaken for a closeted , basket case.
I used this in response to you constantly posting some losers opinion about the contest.
You are the retard. Samir is the 15th place loser. Hope this helps, floozy.
You’re a good old fashioned copycat
You offer nothing original
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=562516.msg10267408;topicseen#msg10267408
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You’re a good old fashioned copycat
You offer nothing original
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=562516.msg10267408;topicseen#msg10267408
I offer nothing 'original'?
If by original you mean a deep dive into paul grahams underwear, you are correct. But that's where you come in.
LOL, you're so pissed! Ahahahah. Holy Hell.
I imagine Royalty, the spitting image of Buffalo Bill in silence of the lambs, face red, stupified frown, furrowed brow. The hair on his temples horizontal from him pulling the remaining strands out... staring into his monitor. Trying to figure what to say next.... the only words that pop into his mind are: dry hump & semen. He slams his palm into his forehead and screams "Think for fucks sakes! Think!"
Slowly his palm slides over to the hair on his temporal lobe and he begins to pull until another lock is stripped from his scalp....
And the process repeats...
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I offer nothing 'original'?
If by original you mean a deep dive into paul grahams underwear, you are correct. But that's where you come in.
LOL, you're so pissed! Ahahahah. Holy Hell.
I imagine Royalty, the spitting image of Buffalo Bill in silence of the lambs, face red, stupified frown, furrowed brow. The hair on his temples horizontal from him pulling the remaining strands out... staring into his monitor. Trying to figure what to say next.... the only words that pop into his mind are: dry hump & semen. He slams his palm into his forehead and screams "Think for fucks sakes! Think!"
Slowly his palm slides over to the hair on his temporal lobe and he begins to pull until another lock is stripped from his scalp....
And the process repeats...
BORDERLINE PERSONALITY
DISORDER
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BORDERLINE PERSONALITY
DISORDER
Everything I said is so true!
You can't even deny it. LOL.
How much sleep are you losing? How much hair are you pulling out? The blind rage of a retard!
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Everything I said is so true!
You can't even deny it. LOL.
How much sleep are you losing? How much hair are you pulling out? The blind rage of a retard!
Dan, you sound mad.
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Dan, you sound mad.
1. Who the hell is Dan?
2. How the hell would you know what I sound like?
The fuck is wrong with you? Hearing voices again?
Or are you trying to say that what I wrote gives you the impression that I'm angry?
I know you're IQ is extraordinarily limited, but even you can't be that obtuse?
Lets look back to New Years Eve. You were a lonely, sexually frustrated and repressed schmoe living at home, building up an ager towards me, for apparently laughing at jokes about mike mentzer. This anger boiled over into a hatred and an obsession that ejaculated all over the forum in a way you never could with a woman. You spewed one dumbfuck post after the next about me... each one less comical and more impotent than your limp penis.
You're an embarrassment.
Not once have I complained to the mods, or created a thread about you. (Maybe one thread, but I came to my senses, realizing how pathetic you are, i did not want to stink up the forum the way you've continued to do for 8 months now)
8 months... holy hell.
If your real life existence even remotely approaches your online persona, you are the biggest bitch I have ever encountered. You should do your parents a favor and find an extension cord to wrap around your neck as tight as your weak bitch-ass hands will allow until the rest of your body is as limp as your dick. Then you can be buried next to your fellow fa66ot loser mike mentzer. (You will finally find evidence Paul Grahams elusive semen buried deep in mikes skull) which is the only skull you're ever going to get, loser.
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LMFAO! This one got me.
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Mentzer is coming .....
to Netflix?
WoooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 10.4.80
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Arnold was very Skinny in 1980
Hence the booing
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Yet dwarfs everyone, bigger arms, chest, traps, calves then everyone else, no one beat him on the mandatories, they all disappeared from the side apart from mentzer who's belly was thicker than his chest.
Arnold was very Skinny in 1980
Hence the booing
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Yet dwarfs everyone, bigger arms, chest, traps, calves then everyone else, no one beat him on the mandatories, they all disappeared from the side apart from mentzer who's belly was thicker than his chest.
Even in the 2 cherry ppickedpictures when Arnold is standing with slumped shoulders and the other standing relaxed comparison with him flexing his abs/obliques. They're the worst ever pictures of him in a contest and he's still so much bigger than every one. His chest is carrying 3 X as much mass as manletzers.
The more pics that are posted; not only am I certain manletzer didn’t deserve to win, he probably didn't deserve 5th either. Zane, Coe, Dickerson ate all clearly better but so is Callender, Walker and Tinerino.
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Zane, Coe, Samir, and Walker said that Arnold wasn’t in the top 5.
The fans booed Arnold. Accept it.
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Arnold was very Skinny in 1980
Hence the booing
I wish I was that skinny
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Arnold was very Skinny in 1980
Hence the booing
Yeah Arnold looked skinny, specially next to all those mass monsters
WoooooSHHHHHHHHHHHH 10.4.80
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Zane, Coe, Samir, and Walker said that Arnold wasn’t in the top 5.
The fans booed Arnold. Accept it.
You lying sack of shit...
As anyone can see, the crowd was going wild for Arnold.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C-9B42EKIxq/?igsh=MXF2NzdveG9wenU3Mw==
Just making shit up. Like all of your other accusations.
Royalty, you are a fat, smelly, kunt, you filthy lying whore.
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Mentzer is coming .....
to Netflix?
WoooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 10.4.80
Arnold is crushing that lineup. 8)
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Arnold looks like he has AIDS
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”SIT DOWN YOU SISSY BITCH”
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”WE ALL KNOW THAT YOU LIVE WITH THE PROMOTER”
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Why is Paul Graham wearing Arnold’s pants??
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Why is Paul Graham wearing Arnold’s pants??
Lmao!!
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Why is Paul Graham wearing Arnold’s pants??
Royalty is premenstrual again. Obsessing over Mr. Paul Graham (The wildly successful promoter of the most talked about Mr. Olympia in history) and hunger cravings for his 40 year old semen.
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Why is Paul Graham wearing Arnold’s pants??
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Royalty, once again, you prove yourself to be a lying sack of shit. You low down, despicable, dishonest, heaping pile of stinking shit.
Trying to bring your sordid fantasies about Mr. Graham to life by creating a make believe world in which you "find" his semen.... sick. Such rotten shameful behavior. Lying about a man all for your own cheap self-gratification! Disgusting.!
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Royalty, once again, you prove yourself to be a lying sack of shit. You low down, despicable, dishonest, heaping pile of stinking shit.
Trying to bring your sordid fantasies about Mr. Graham to life by creating a make believe world in which you "find" his semen.... sick. Such rotten shameful behavior. Lying about a man all for your own cheap self-gratification! Disgusting.!
Arnold is bi-sexual and he lived with Paul Graham. “More than friends”
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After Paul Graham pulled the pants off of Arnold (prior to prejudging) he ironed the legendary pants and wore the pants to the night show.
That means the “dry hump” took place in the evening.
Arnold’s pants had a busy day.
Graham then used the Calgon to lift the semen stain off of said pants.
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Arnold’s pants were like Mike Katz’s shirt in ‘Pumping Iron’.
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Creating more fictional smut to fit your perverted fantasies. Sick lying fucker. SMH.
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I want to buy Paul Graham’s pants
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Arnold looked like absolute dog shit
Hence the booing
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Looks like the top 2 guys to me, and I don’t even like Zane or Dick-er-son. Also thought Roger Walker deserved to be in the top 5. He was the dwarfing everyone
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Arnold was a solid 9th
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Arnold won big in life, he has kids that will continue on the “Schwarzenegger” name while mentzer is dead, his brother is dead, their bloodline dead. Some people just have it all while others are shit out of luck
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Arnold won big in life, he has kids that will continue on the “Schwarzenegger” name while mentzer is dead, his brother is dead, their bloodline dead. Some people just have it all while others are shit out of luck
Arnold got fucked in the ass by Paul Graham and Joe Weider. That lifestyle carried over into Hollywood
Congratulations Arnold
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Arnold looked like absolute dog shit
Hence the booing
https://www.instagram.com/p/C-9B42EKIxq/?igsh=MXF2NzdveG9wenU3Mw==
The crowd was going wild for Arnold. People were clapping and cheering. He recieved a standing ovation.
Meanwhile mentzer received ridicule for his poor display of sportsmanship. He stomped off the stage, then meekly returned only to accept his 5th place award (free parking validation at the Sydney Opera House and an autographed 8X10 glossy of Arnold Schwarzenegger)
Royalty continues to create mentzer fan fiction, like all of his other accusations- just a figment of his twisted imagination.
Royalty's just a filthy lying whore.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/C-9B42EKIxq/?igsh=MXF2NzdveG9wenU3Mw==
The crowd was going wild for Arnold. People were clapping and cheering. He recieved a standing ovation.
Meanwhile mentzer received ridicule for his poor display of sportsmanship. He stomped off the stage, then meekly returned only to accept his 5th place award (free parking validation at the Sydney Opera House and an autographed 8X10 glossy of Arnold Schwarzenegger)
Royalty continues to create mentzer fan fiction, like all of his other accusations- just a figment of his twisted imagination.
Royalty's just a filthy lying whore.
Arnold was booed off of the stage
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https://frankzane.com/1980-mr-olympia-part-ii/
Zane said the booing lasted 1 full minute
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The clip I posted proves you and Zane are liars.
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A relaxed Mentzer beats a fully flexed Arnold
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Not only did Arnold beat mentzers weak ass but the 1981 version of Franco would've too.
If Mike's tried his finger-pointing 'tough guy" stunt that he pulled in Sydney, Franco would've obliterated him.
Thats why mike walked away in shame. He new he just wasn't good enough.
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Unable to stand on his own convictions mentzer tried to persuade zane, coe and others to 'quit' also. They joined mike at first. But once they saw what a loser he was, they distanced themselves from the stench of hobo mike. They quietly returned to the IFBB, turning the other cheek when mike was disgracing himself in the gutter outside of Golds gym, flopping around like a dying fish...... Figures hes your idol.
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Around the time mike was finally institutionalized, he would repeatedly accuse Arnold, Paul Graham and the Weiders of being gimmicks. It was the most shocking and flagrant sign of his mental deterioration.
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Around the time mike was finally institutionalized, he would repeatedly accuse Arnold, Paul Graham and the Weiders of being gimmicks. It was the most shocking and flagrant sign of his mental deterioration.
Kinda like Royalty.
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Kinda like Royalty.
The parallels are alarming.
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The parallels are alarming.
Maybe he is the reincarnated Mentzer still crying about losing the Olympia in his new shitty life.
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Maybe he is the reincarnated Mentzer still crying about losing the Olympia in his new shitty life.
This.
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One week ago the Mr.O took place in Las Vegas ..... no one remembers it ,,,
Here's what happened in mr.O 1980 Sydney Australia (44 years ago)
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh 10.4.80
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^^^ Only on Getbig does anyone remember either contest.