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Title: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: Bodybuilding.com Webmaster on February 21, 2006, 04:51:59 PM
Join us as Jose shares a little about how he was black balled from the sport of Major League Baseball.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/06ironman_jose.htm

Jose was freaking HUGE! He makes Bob look small (Bob, no pun intended).

Might be at the Arnold...

Will
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: ja351 on February 21, 2006, 04:57:08 PM
what on earth is he wearing? is that a joke or something?
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: 240 is Back on February 21, 2006, 04:58:40 PM
why the hell would any supplement or BBing company associate itself with an individual who has worked to bring down the supplement/steroid industry?

Above all, Canseco is a rat who betrayed his friends. 

Will - Do you feel his goals and character align to those of yours at BBing.com?
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: bigdumbbell on February 21, 2006, 05:00:26 PM
how did he bring anybody down?  oh you mean living a lie?
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: Snotroot on February 21, 2006, 05:02:36 PM
why the hell would any supplement or BBing company associate itself with an individual who has worked to bring down the supplement/steroid industry?
Above all, Canseco is a rat who betrayed his friends. 
Will - Do you feel his goals and character align to those of yours at BBing.com?
I agree in a way he started the snowball rolling with his big mouth.
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: Bodybuilding.com Webmaster on February 21, 2006, 05:26:05 PM
why the hell would any supplement or BBing company associate itself with an individual who has worked to bring down the supplement/steroid industry?
Above all, Canseco is a rat who betrayed his friends. 
Will - Do you feel his goals and character align to those of yours at BBing.com?

R - he is a rat that betrayed lots of people... also did a lot of good to baseball.  I mean, c'mon - he was the first to be in the 40/40 club! j/k

After doing an interview about BK today with the Boston Globe I think that...   

It was more of a shits and giggles.   Personally, I would never have him 'represent' bb.com.   Then again, it is not my company...

W
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: 240 is Back on February 21, 2006, 05:39:03 PM
R - he is a rat that betrayed lots of people... also did a lot of good to baseball.  I mean, c'mon - he was the first to be in the 40/40 club! j/k
After doing an interview about BK today with the Boston Globe I think that...   
It was more of a shits and giggles.   Personally, I would never have him 'represent' bb.com.   Then again, it is not my company...
W

I can respect that Will, and I appreciate the honest answer.  yeah, Canseco was a hell of a ballplayer... but he did do a lot to perpetuate negative stereotypes about steroids after making his fortune off them.  Peace.
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: Croatch on February 21, 2006, 06:01:02 PM
Quote
I can respect that Will, and I appreciate the honest answer.  yeah, Canseco was a hell of a ballplayer... but he did do a lot to perpetuate negative stereotypes about steroids after making his fortune off them.  Peace.
Good point.
I give him credit for saying "fuck you" to an industry who tried to fuck him.  It's too bad he had to name people in his book, but it was needed to make it genuine.  I heard Bonds does more growth than Coleman, is that true? :o
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: 240 is Back on February 21, 2006, 06:02:46 PM

I give him credit for saying "f**k you" to an industry who tried to f**k him. 

Did the industry f**k him when it paid him millions of dollars to use illegal drugs to outperform his peers?
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: Wombat on February 21, 2006, 07:55:00 PM
Join us as Jose shares a little about how he was black balled from the sport of Major League Baseball.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/06ironman_jose.htm
Jose was freaking HUGE! He makes Bob look small (Bob, no pun intended).
Might be at the Arnold...
Will

Jose is a tall guy and has some muscle on his frame but to say he is huge compared to a pro bodybuiler is silly...After seeing the Surreal life, Jose is a weight lifter, not a bodybuilder...
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: bigdumbbell on February 25, 2006, 06:15:17 PM
canseco was an authentic competitive athlete NOT
a person who builds muscles for comparisons
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: Slick Vic on February 25, 2006, 06:32:07 PM

Jose was freaking HUGE!
Helloooooooo.... does that surprise you?  ::)
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: Oliver Klaushof on February 25, 2006, 07:53:10 PM
He's a scumbag. He shouldn't have named names. That's the bottom line.
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: bigdumbbell on February 25, 2006, 07:55:39 PM
He's a scumbag. He shouldn't have named names. That's the bottom line.

he aint a closet case
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: G o a t b o y on February 25, 2006, 07:59:32 PM
canseco was an authentic competitive athlete NOT
a person who builds muscles for comparisons

"Baseball is not a sport" - Intenseone
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: pumpster on February 25, 2006, 08:00:46 PM
No problem with Jose, I'm much more offended by liars who go through their careers and under oath in front of Congress claim they've never used roids, in order to get ahead and maintain the baseball status quo. Obnoxious.

Jose's just keepin it real, and i'm glad he named names, since they did in fact do what he's claimed. They benefited, they took the chance, now deal with it. What, you need to maintain some lame baseball "tradition"? Long gone, and nothing to do with Jose.

Jose is HUGE by almost any standard, at 6'4", 250-a lot bigger & more athletic than most BBs, who tend to be short and look like kids in comparison. He dwarfs them and with that height advantage and superior athleticism, he could beat the ass of most BBs.

The supplement company's smart to have him involved-he's widely known AND proved that supplementation and training works.
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: Oliver Klaushof on February 25, 2006, 08:17:12 PM
He's a giant douchenozzle
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: Oliver Klaushof on February 25, 2006, 08:18:09 PM
What's up with Bob. The guy always looks unconfertable in his own skin.
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on February 25, 2006, 08:53:32 PM
"Baseball is not a sport" - Intenseone

Haha penishead :P!
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: onlyme on February 25, 2006, 09:00:54 PM
Canseco is a big guy no matter how you measure.  He made a huge mark in professional baseball.  You guys rag on him for taking roids but even back then allot of pro ballpalyers were taking them. Some more some less some with good some with great results.  In baseball as with the other team sports you have many guys trying to take your job from you every spring.  If you can't perform better than the next guy you are out and you could lose millions of dollars.  You do what you have to do.  He did.  As did Mark with him.  As did dozens of other pro ballplayers from that era.  He wrote a tell all book, big deal.  It sold a ton of copies.  You think the publisher wanted him to write a half ass book and maybe sell allot copies.  Hell no do a tell all and get a ton of publicity.  He did and it was great.
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on February 25, 2006, 09:10:52 PM
Canseco is a big guy no matter how you measure.  He made a huge mark in professional baseball.  You guys rag on him for taking roids but even back then allot of pro ballpalyers were taking them. Some more some less some with good some with great results.  In baseball as with the other team sports you have many guys trying to take your job from you every spring.  If you can't perform better than the next guy you are out and you could lose millions of dollars.  You do what you have to do.  He did.  As did Mark with him.  As did dozens of other pro ballplayers from that era.  He wrote a tell all book, big deal.  It sold a ton of copies.  You think the publisher wanted him to write a half ass book and maybe sell allot copies.  Hell no do a tell all and get a ton of publicity.  He did and it was great.

I don't think their not saying anything about taking gear, their talking about how he ratted out different players in the league. As far as his TAKING gear. It's an even playing field, at least 75-80% of players are on. Conseco's name was somewhat cleared (because people were saying he was lying) after Raffy Palmeiro tested dirty!
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: bigdumbbell on February 25, 2006, 09:18:01 PM
I don't think their not saying anything about taking gear, their talking about how he ratted out different players in the league. As far as his TAKING gear. It's an even playing field, at least 75-80% of players are on. Conseco's name was somewhat cleared (because people were saying he was lying) after Raffy Palmeiro tested dirty!
oh gee sorry i must have gotten it wrong mr intense but it seems to me a whistlebower isnt a rat unless you're in a dirty business and got caught
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: pumpster on February 25, 2006, 09:43:28 PM
Ratted out someone as "honorable" as Palmiero-i'll take it. ;D
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: gtbro1 on February 25, 2006, 09:45:07 PM
He's a scumbag. He shouldn't have named names. That's the bottom line.
  I agree.
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on February 25, 2006, 10:02:15 PM

Jose is HUGE by almost any standard, at 6'4", 250-a lot bigger & more athletic than most BBs.


Lets be real......he's more athletic than ALL BB's (pro's)!






www.darksidebodybuilding .com
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: SexRockSushi on February 26, 2006, 12:04:19 AM
For a pro, Bob is small, especially these days.  I see him at golds all the time and since he feels it's mandatory that he must wear a sleeveless shirt at all times, it's readily apparent that even his arms are pretty small and soft these days.  And I won't even get into his nonexistent legs which unlike his arms, are always covered up.  He definately has one of the most poorly developed if not the smallest legs of any pro over 200 lbs.
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: Chick on February 26, 2006, 09:31:42 AM
pretty keen eye you got there....
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: Chick on February 26, 2006, 09:34:15 AM
any more observations?
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on February 26, 2006, 09:41:47 AM
any more observations?

Yes. Lets see some recent pics and not ones from six years ago!
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: bigdumbbell on February 26, 2006, 09:50:00 AM
Yes. Lets see some recent pics and not ones from six years ago!

we will see soon
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: sarcasm on February 26, 2006, 09:52:36 AM
look how small Chick's left arm is in the second pic.
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: Slick Vic on February 26, 2006, 10:43:13 AM
look how small Chick's left arm is in the second pic.
hahaha.... everyone's a critic.  :D
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: Karl Kox on February 26, 2006, 10:53:54 AM
For a pro, Bob is small, especially these days.  I see him at golds all the time and since he feels it's mandatory that he must wear a sleeveless shirt at all times, it's readily apparent that even his arms are pretty small and soft these days.  And I won't even get into his nonexistent legs which unlike his arms, are always covered up.  He definately has one of the most poorly developed if not the smallest legs of any pro over 200 lbs.


So I guess your bigger than Bob right ?    Have you ever looked like those pics of Bob above ?  No Pro should be criticized except Kovacs maybe, because they all look better than us. Even Bob.
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: The RedMeatKid on February 26, 2006, 01:04:04 PM
why the hell would any supplement or BBing company associate itself with an individual who has worked to bring down the supplement/steroid industry?
Above all, Canseco is a rat who betrayed his friends. 
Will - Do you feel his goals and character align to those of yours at BBing.com?

Yeah.  They would be much better served associating themselves with 2 Hefty Bags full of dogshit like Arvilla and yourself.  Get real asshole.
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: onlyme on February 26, 2006, 01:08:02 PM
Man, it's nice to post up pics from when you were in shape.  Take it from me though, it won't last forever. Then you too may have a hard time getting insurance.   hehe
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: CC3 on February 26, 2006, 01:24:28 PM
So I guess your bigger than Bob right ?    Have you ever looked like those pics of Bob above ?  No Pro should be criticized except Kovacs maybe, because they all look better than us. Even Bob.
Right on, brother.  I love how people on these boards go on and on about pros with "He's small, he looks like shit...blah, blah, blah" when 95% of the people on this board will never look half as good as the lowest-ranked pro out there.  Comparing two guys is one thing, maybe something like "Well X has better legs, but Y has better symmetry and Z has more size", but when someone just starts doggin' on people it looks ridiculous.
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: Karl Kox on February 26, 2006, 03:19:20 PM
Right on, brother.  I love how people on these boards go on and on about pros with "He's small, he looks like shit...blah, blah, blah" when 95% of the people on this board will never look half as good as the lowest-ranked pro out there.  Comparing two guys is one thing, maybe something like "Well X has better legs, but Y has better symmetry and Z has more size", but when someone just starts doggin' on people it looks ridiculous.

Agree. Even if someone says " Well He's not as big as he used to be."  is fine, but to talk crap about a pro bb like you look better then them is just plane dumb.
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: hipolito mejia on February 26, 2006, 03:22:34 PM
why the hell would any supplement or BBing company associate itself with an individual who has worked to bring down the supplement/steroid industry?
Above all, Canseco is a rat who betrayed his friends. 
1- betrayed his "friends"?  this is business .
excuse my english but u should know...........
Major league baseball chew Jose Canseco and then spited out,.plain and simple.
Jose was kept by the Yankee's for no reason order than to keep him out of becoming the first foreign to hit 500 homers and secure his hall of fame in 2001.
Then Mike Sciosa was told to gave him a release from Anaheim (a day before opening day in 2002 )to keep him out of the game................stra nge??
In 2003, a day before opening day same story,  Frank Robinson from the Expos organitation was told no to touch Jose then is up to you mr 240 to "find out" what's going on.....
Canseco was told many times that he was blackballed on both west and central cost organitations "If they don't allowed him in to the hall of fame after hr. # 500, same thing will have to apply to Mgwire,Bonds,Jiambi,shefil etc $$$$$$$$$$$....unless they put some dirt on his name"to justify him not worht of it.
So he tried to go for the west coast try- outs where his agent got a tryout with L.A team..........that's when he got arrested when "somebody" called that he was on steroids and tested positive...........a few month in jay and his carreer down the toilet.....the judge decided there was not enough evidence that Jose was on steroids and was set free..............
This is about to repeat with Sammy Sosa...........you can give $12.000.000 millions to Johnny Damon to play the out field with the Yanks.............
But the only offer Sammy has is $ 500,000 to play with the outfield for Nationals??
He only needs 12 homers to become the first foreign to get to the 600 mark...
Unlike Jose and Palmeiro Sammy will be inducted to the hall of fame if give up righ now and live it like that.............
Or could still try to hit at least 25 homers per season and in 4 season that'll be 788 homers!!!!
Or see what major league baseball has in store for him while he is on his quest.
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: snatch_clean on February 26, 2006, 04:03:21 PM
What's up with Bob. The guy always looks unconfertable in his own skin.

Like any bodybuilder he looks and feels best when he is alone or with people smaller than him.
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: Oliver Klaushof on February 26, 2006, 05:51:56 PM
haha.
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: Oliver Klaushof on February 26, 2006, 05:52:51 PM
He's prolly thinkin'  "I hope this picture of me getting dwarfed by a baseball player doesn't show up on Getbig."
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: Chick on February 26, 2006, 06:08:11 PM
...6 years ago, 2 years ago...whatever....check out my "reality show- War for the worlds" on Bodybuilding.com theres live footage shot just last week, if you want up to date pics.
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: Karl Kox on February 26, 2006, 06:09:58 PM
agree Bob was looking huge on there
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: 240 is Back on February 26, 2006, 06:41:27 PM
1- betrayed his "friends"?  this is business .
excuse my english but u should know...........


The friends/confidants who shared in cheating with him.

That's who he betrayed.  He made a lot of money cheating at the sport, but that wasn't enough. He had to sell out friends who had used steroids with him in the past, many years later.  Why ruin their careers? To sell more books.

Canseco's beef with MLB is something entirely seperate.  He is a snitch.
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: bigdumbbell on February 26, 2006, 07:35:58 PM
The friends/confidants who shared in cheating with him.
That's who he betrayed.  He made a lot of money cheating at the sport, but that wasn't enough. He had to sell out friends who had used steroids with him in the past, many years later.  Why ruin their careers? To sell more books.
Canseco's beef with MLB is something entirely seperate.  He is a snitch.
 

please 240  you're beginning to sound like a born again christian  LOL
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: 240 is Back on February 26, 2006, 08:02:40 PM
 
please 240  you're beginning to sound like a born again christian  LOL

I know, but snitches make me madder than anything else.
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: onlyme on February 26, 2006, 08:05:40 PM
To support Chic here.  Jose is a big guy no matter how you look at it.  Chic is not known as a big BB.  He is good size but nothing overly excitable about.  Comparing them is stupid.  Jose next to allot of people will make them look small.  He is so tall too.  As big as Coleman is standing next to Jose he wouldn't look as big and maybe even smaller than Jose.  Hell look how small he looked next to True Adonis.  
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: onlyme on February 26, 2006, 08:10:14 PM
Here is an intersting question scenario.  If you were in a situation where you could be released or a minimal charge against you for turning in your friends and cohorts would you.  Keep in mind you have a family and children. 
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: 240 is Back on February 26, 2006, 08:11:37 PM
Here is an intersting question scenario.  If you were in a situation where you could be released or a minimal charge against you for turning in your friends and cohorts would you.  Keep in mind you have a family and children. 

Jose didn't have his back against the wall, though.

He was living out life comfortably. He was out of the spotlight.

No fed or DEA agent MADE him write this book, and his family wasn't starving.

he just wanted $ and attention.  :-\
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: bigdumbbell on February 26, 2006, 08:12:18 PM
To support Chic here.  Jose is a big guy no matter how you look at it.  Chic is not known as a big BB.  He is good size but nothing overly excitable about.  Comparing them is stupid.  Jose next to allot of people will make them look small.  He is so tall too.  As big as Coleman is standing next to Jose he wouldn't look as big and maybe even smaller than Jose.  Hell look how small he looked next to True Adonis.  

onlyme

talk about proportionality, when canseco played for oakland i went to several games the man was HUGE and very athletic

big&dumb
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: gtbro1 on February 27, 2006, 04:15:01 AM
I wish my legs were as poorly developed as his
Title: Re: Jose Canseco Visits The 2006 Bodybuilding.com Iron Man Expo Booth!
Post by: Wombat on February 27, 2006, 02:59:19 PM
Canseco is a big guy no matter how you measure.  He made a huge mark in professional baseball.  You guys rag on him for taking roids but even back then allot of pro ballpalyers were taking them. Some more some less some with good some with great results.  In baseball as with the other team sports you have many guys trying to take your job from you every spring.  If you can't perform better than the next guy you are out and you could lose millions of dollars.  You do what you have to do.  He did.  As did Mark with him.  As did dozens of other pro ballplayers from that era.  He wrote a tell all book, big deal.  It sold a ton of copies.  You think the publisher wanted him to write a half ass book and maybe sell allot copies.  Hell no do a tell all and get a ton of publicity.  He did and it was great.

the funny thing about the whole steroid issue is the fact that congress sat up there and made claims of the old ball players who never used steroids in the 60s-70s-80s ect...The funny thing is the fact that how do they know that nobody of those era's didn't use anything...in the 70s steroids were rampant in Football...Why would it be so out of the question to think a small % of baseball players experimented with them...Some call the 90s the steroid era and that records should be taken out or have astoreses(sp)next to the records...Hell Babe ruth was a supposed drunk and speed freak and if you believe Jose(which i do) most baseball players for decades have been using "greenies" speed to play...Who would have thought that John MacEnroe the tennis player used steroids and that many in the sport were experimenting and using...You don't hear anything about Tennis getting rid of records and what not...Even ping pong players have tested postive for steroids...

So i guess my point is i would bet my life that someone way up in the record book of baseball of years ago have in fact used some form of steroid to get and edge...And the only difference of the players of the 90s till now is that the percentage of players is alot more and the nutrition of any athlete is 10 fold of yester years players...But i say lets put Reggie Jackson on a lie detector and see if he ever used or knew of anyone he played with that knew...And while we are at it Jim Rice who to this day looks as if he knows his way around a prescription drug...