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http://www.alternet.org/watch-chomsky-blasts-american-sniper-and-media-glorifies-it
By Janet Allon / AlterNet
January 26, 2015
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Noam Chomsky had some choice words about the popularity of "American Sniper," its glowing New York Times review, and what the worship of a movie about a cold-blooded killer says about the American people.
It's not good.
During a Cambridge, Massachusetts event hosted by The Baffler, Chomsky first read the glowing recent review the New York Times gave the movie. That review begins inauspiciously by insulting, “America’s coastal intelligentsia, which has busied itself with chatter over little-seen art dramas while everyday Americans showed up en masse for a patriotic, pro-family picture which broke all attendance records in its opening days.”
So, Chomsky wonders aloud: “What was the patriotic, pro-family film that so entranced everyday Americans? It’s about the most deadly sniper in American history, a guy named Chris Kyle, who claims to have used his skills to have killed several hundred people in Iraq.”
Kyle's first kill was a woman who apparently walked into the street with a grenade in her hand as the Marines attacked her village. Here's how Kyle describes killing her with a single shot:
“‘I hated the damn savages I’d been fighting,’” Chomsky said, quoting Kyle. “‘Savage, despicable, evil — that’s what we were fighting in Iraq. That’s why a lot of people, myself included, called the enemy savages. There was really no other way to describe what we encountered there.’”
Chomsky also pointed out that The New Yorker loved the film, saying, "it was great, kept to the cinematic values, said it was well done." On the other hand, Newsweek's Jeff Stein, a former US intelligence officer, deferred, calling it appalling. In that review, Chomsky says, Stein remembered a visit he had made to a “clubhouse for snipers, where to quote him, ‘the barroom walls featured white-on-black Nazi SS insignia, and other Wehrmacht regalia. The Marine shooters clearly identified with the marksmen of the world’s most infamous killing machine, rather than regular troops.”
“Getting back to Chris Kyle,” Chomsky said, arriving at his larger point. “He regarded his first kill as a terrorist — this woman who walked in the street — but we can’t really attribute that to the mentality of a psychopathic killer, because we’re all tarred by the same brush insofar as we tolerate or keep silent about official policy.”
“Now, that [sniper] mentality helps explain why it’s so easy to ignore what is most clearly the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern history, if not ever — Obama’s global assassination campaign, the drone campaign, which officially is aimed at murdering people who are suspected of maybe someday planning to harm us.”
Chomsky recommends reading some of the transcripts with drone operators, calling them "harrowing" in their dehumanizing treatment of people who are targeted.
The implication is clear and chilling. Are we all, at least tacitly, American snipers?
Here's Chomsky via WGBH below.
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I don't believe either of them, both had a reason to lie. Jesse is a fucking fruit loop
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Chris Kyle had a huge problem when it came to telling the truth. I take anything he said with a huge grain of salt.
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just because he was trained by the Us Government to kill, does mean i trust his word
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Lying and Glorifying.
That has been the theme with this thing since day one, in case you hadn't noticed.
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Dorian vs Coleman. Who was better?
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soldiers are people who are given the right to murder other people because they are "bad". They re PAID to do so.
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SO wish Chomsky coulda been 161.
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Dorian vs Coleman. Who was better?
To answer that one would have to know the mind of God.
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Liberal are low lives. He didn't write that book it was written by two guys with his name on it. Liberals claim to love soldiers unless they killed a lot of people. That's why Obama has given out so many Medal of Honor medals to soldiers involved in rescues. In the past the majority were given out to soldiers who through bravery killed the enemy. Jesse Ventura is an embarrassment. He was a frog man. The SEALS didn't exist then. Yes the frog men evolved into the Navy SEALS.
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chris kyle is constantly called a hero in media and by talking heads on tv but they never say why ???
why should the domesticated sheeple be worshipping a cold blooded killer?? exactly the type of person who we were brought up to believe was bad.
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Dorian vs Coleman. Who was better?
Dorian
Its the future now and Dorian still lifts and has hot girlfriend..
Coleman
Is riding a mobile scooter and trying to get his arms back too 19 inches..
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Dorian
Its the future now and Dorian still lifts and has hot girlfriend..
Coleman
Is riding a mobile scooter and trying to get his arms back too 19 inches..
dorian had back, calves, and conditioning thats it
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chris kyle is constantly called a hero in media and by talking heads on tv but they never say why ???
why should the domesticated sheeple be worshipping a cold blooded killer?? exactly the type of person who we were brought up to believe was bad.
Chris Kyle saved the lives of many of his fellow soldiers by killing a bunch of fucked up Jihadists.
Good enough for me.
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Chris Kyle saved the lives of many of his fellow soldiers by killing a bunch of fucked up Jihadists.
Good enough for me.
you are right.
But isn't he just as bad a human being as the people he was killing?
In your society, murder is murder no?
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you are right.
But isn't he just as bad a human being as the people he was killing?
In your society, murder is murder no?
In most societies, the definition of murder is very different in the context or war or military action.
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you are right.
But isn't he just as bad a human being as the people he was killing?
In your society, murder is murder no?
The intent in war is to kill the enemy.
The rules in war are not the same as the rules in everyday life
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Chris Kyle saved the lives of many of his fellow soldiers by killing a bunch of fucked up Jihadists.
Good enough for me.
They were Iraqi citizens that were illegally invaded and occupied, some of which tried to defend themselves.
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I am not too sure what he said was true. But what I do know is that most people who fight in war do not glorify it. My grandfather fought in World War 2 in the Battle of the Bulge, which was the most bloodiest battle in all of WW2. When people or myself would ask my grandfather about the war, he would always say, "I had a job to do and I did it. There is nothing else to say." Toward the end of his life, him and my grandmother made a video for our family (my grandma is still alive). The person doing the interview asked my grandfather about the war, he teared up and again reiterated, "There is not much to say."
This Chris Kyle guy is a total clown. He had a job to do and he did it. Fine, I will not hold that against him. But the way he glorifies killing and war is really strange. Truly a sociopath. And the fact that most Americans glorify him is equally disgusting. I will not glorify war and say how awesome Chris Kyle was. He had a job to do and he did it. I will not hold that against him. But none of the war veterans Ive met or seen interview talk like him. We all have seen interviews with WW2 vets and I have never seen any of them glorify war.
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movie would be better if they added the part where he shoots 30 americans from the top of the superdome and dispatches two carjackers with some underarm shots.
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Liberal are low lives. He didn't write that book it was written by two guys with his name on it. Liberals claim to love soldiers unless they killed a lot of people. That's why Obama has given out so many Medal of Honor medals to soldiers involved in rescues. In the past the majority were given out to soldiers who through bravery killed the enemy. Jesse Ventura is an embarrassment. He was a frog man. The SEALS didn't exist then. Yes the frog men evolved into the Navy SEALS.
Kyle has been caught in too many lies to be credible.
When Ventura completed buds training he chose udt because his brother was udt. Like him or hate him he earned the right to be called a navy seal.
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bob hoshkins died wtf
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I am not too sure what he said was true. But what I do know is that most people who fight in war do not glorify it. My grandfather fought in World War 2 in the Battle of the Bulge, which was the most bloodiest battle in all of WW2. When people or myself would ask my grandfather about the war, he would always say, "I had a job to do and I did it. There is nothing else to say." Toward the end of his life, him and my grandmother made a video for our family (my grandma is still alive). The person doing the interview asked my grandfather about the war, he teared up and again reiterated, "There is not much to say."
This Chris Kyle guy is a total clown. He had a job to do and he did it. Fine, I will not hold that against him. But the way he glorifies killing and war is really strange. Truly a sociopath. And the fact that most Americans glorify him is equally disgusting. I will not glorify war and say how awesome Chris Kyle was. He had a job to do and he did it. I will not hold that against him. But none of the war veterans Ive met or seen interview talk like him. We all have seen interviews with WW2 vets and I have never seen any of them glorify war.
Right, seems he enjoyed killing.
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Liberal are low lives. He didn't write that book it was written by two guys with his name on it. Liberals claim to love soldiers unless they killed a lot of people. That's why Obama has given out so many Medal of Honor medals to soldiers involved in rescues. In the past the majority were given out to soldiers who through bravery killed the enemy. Jesse Ventura is an embarrassment. He was a frog man. The SEALS didn't exist then. Yes the frog men evolved into the Navy SEALS.
end of thread.
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Right, seems he enjoyed killing.
And my grandfather was a registered republican and voted republican until the day he died.
Even my grandmother said my grandfather hardly ever talked about the war with her and they were married for almost 65 years. From what I know about my grandfather he did not enjoy killing Germans. As stated previously, he did it because he had a job to do.
It seems like the military personnel today are a much different breed than the military personnel in WW2 and in previous wars. And different not in a good way. :-\ :-\
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just because he was trained by the Us Government to kill, does mean i trust his word
Maybe we should just eliminate our entire military.
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Love how he says he ran out of the bar before Jesse could get up. Tough guy right there.
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The intent in war is to kill the enemy.
The rules in war are not the same as the rules in everyday life
lol..
touche
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I have one friend who's a highly decorated marine, purple heart and some others. Badass dude, 33 yrs old and has seen more shit then I'm sure any of us ever will.
He has plans to write a book but he said he doesn't want his other marine friends to ostracize him since most of the guys he's came across look down on profiting from their service (aside from the combat pay - which paid for his house)
He told me that these ghost writers really do embellish their words to make a "story" apparently for some of these book the US government has to "sign off" on them. That sounds shady to me...like authorized propaganda.
He also said that what actually happened, vs what he remembers varies dramatically..and thats a common thing during high stress situations.
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No one hates America more than Noam Chomsky though Obama isn't very far behind.
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It's true that murica went to iraq.
But take the movie as entertainment, it's not hard these days to stage an event, even less hard to tell people a movie is based on facts.
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The intent in war is to kill the enemy.
The rules in war are not the same as the rules in everyday life
at school, at work, you re supposed to beat the competition to maintain your position. You re aslo suposed to be the best looking and most earning man to get the best women. Sorry but the intent is ALWAYS to kill or be killed, in war or peace times. The intensity is just different. Let's just say in peaceful times we fight a more psychological war , and tend to avoid physical conflict. Still it's all about fighting and struggling to insure your survival. You can destroy, kill, people with words, there s a reason why there are more and more depressed and suicidal people everywhere in most modern societies.
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No one hates America more than Noam Chomsky though Obama isn't very far behind.
this jew hated america more and rightly so they were tryiing to take his monies
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lol, so they invade a country and when people fight back they are savages. Fucking asshole. Glad this fuck is dead but there are hundreds like him over there just shooting people at will.
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this jew hated america more and rightly so they were tryiing to take his monies
(https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/pawn-bobby.jpg)
Absolutely brilliant.
Too bad he went crazy later in life.
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lol, so they invade a country and when people fight back they are savages. Fucking asshole. Glad this fuck is dead but there are hundreds like him over there just shooting people at will.
Strapping kids to bombs...using animals....women....yeah they suck. The problem with libs is that they want all of us to come home emotionally fucked up...and dependent on drugs and uncle sam...they want us to whine and be bitter and hate the military. Kyle came back...kinda fucked up a bit but when it got right down to it...he liked his job.He served with the best and he whished he could have done more. Calling the rags..."savages"...its this liberal PC bullshit that has seeped in that tells us we can't call them haji's or ragheads or whatever. In the 40's we called em krauts or nips...in the 60's we called em gooks. Kyle is a hero because he saved American lives....I could care less how many rags he killed.
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Strapping kids to bombs...using animals....women....yeah they suck. The problem with libs is that they want all of us to come home emotionally fucked up...and dependent on drugs and uncle sam...they want us to whine and be bitter and hate the military. Kyle came back...kinda fucked up a bit but when it got right down to it...he liked his job.He served with the best and he whished he could have done more. Calling the rags..."savages"...its this liberal PC bullshit that has seeped in that tells us we can't call them haji's or ragheads or whatever. In the 40's we called em krauts or nips...in the 60's we called em gooks. Kyle is a hero because he saved American lives....I could care less how many rags he killed.
Saved lives? They wouldn't need saving if they weren't there in the first place. He's not a hero when they manufactured the situation in the first place. It's like pushing a lady into traffic and then saving her before she gets hit and calling yourself a fucking hero.
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Strapping kids to bombs...using animals....women....yeah they suck. The problem with libs is that they want all of us to come home emotionally fucked up...and dependent on drugs and uncle sam...they want us to whine and be bitter and hate the military. Kyle came back...kinda fucked up a bit but when it got right down to it...he liked his job.He served with the best and he whished he could have done more. Calling the rags..."savages"...its this liberal PC bullshit that has seeped in that tells us we can't call them haji's or ragheads or whatever. In the 40's we called em krauts or nips...in the 60's we called em gooks. Kyle is a hero because he saved American lives....I could care less how many rags he killed.
seems honest enough
can't be faulted for that
8)
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i play black ops 2 on xbox 360
that's more than enough for me to know that snipers are camping pussies
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Saved lives? They wouldn't need saving if they weren't there in the first place. He's not a hero when they manufactured the situation in the first place. It's like pushing a lady into traffic and then saving her before she gets hit and calling yourself a fucking hero.
Kyle didn't make the call to invade Iraq did he? He did his job....smoking worthless ragheads from great distances after being trained by the best to be the best. Your just jealous.
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lol, so they invade a country and when people fight back they are savages. Fucking asshole. Glad this fuck is dead but there are hundreds like him over there just shooting people at will.
Yeah. And then when they send a guy over there to kill them ON THEIR OWN LAND ! , the guy is considered a 'hero' :D ::) Pretty fucking sadistic if you think about it lol
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Obvious liar. His wifes kinda hot. Hopefully, she got some cock after the Oscars.
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Lots of liberals in this thread
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Dorian vs Coleman. Who was better?
Depends...which one had more confirmed kills?
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Lots of liberals in this thread
If you read my post on the first and second page my grandfather was a registered republican and voted republican his whole life.
Fought in WW2 in the battle of the bulge. He never glorified war. I dont know too many WW2 vets that do.
Has nothiing to do with liberal or conservative. Chris Kyle clearly had a few marbles missing up top.
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And my grandfather was a registered republican and voted republican until the day he died.
Even my grandmother said my grandfather hardly ever talked about the war with her and they were married for almost 65 years. From what I know about my grandfather he did not enjoy killing Germans. As stated previously, he did it because he had a job to do.
It seems like the military personnel today are a much different breed than the military personnel in WW2 and in previous wars. And different not in a good way. :-\ :-\
I agree.
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If you read my post on the first and second page my grandfather was a registered republican and voted republican his whole life.
Fought in WW2 in the battle of the bulge. He never glorified war. I dont know too many WW2 vets that do.
Has nothiing to do with liberal or conservative. Chris Kyle clearly had a few marbles missing up top.
This
So many simple people think its this imaginary "conservative vs Liberal" thing like its a football game and people can either be one or the other lol. What a prehistoric way of thinking, things are not black and white like this at all.
I love violence myself, but to envy some guy and call him a hero because he entered another nation and killed its countrymen on their own land , then call anyone who doesn't agree with that a fucking "liberal", like calling them 'unamerican or non patriotic' in their own little way, almost as to indicate a failure lol. Such a non forward redneck simpleton way of thinking that should be beaten to death along with all religion.
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This
So many simple people think its this imaginary "conservative vs Liberal" thing like its a football game and people can either be one or the other lol. What a prehistoric way of thinking, things are not black and white like this at all.
I love violence myself, but to envy some guy and call him a hero because he entered another nation and killed its countrymen on their own land , then call anyone who doesn't agree with that a fucking "liberal", like calling them 'unamerican or non patriotic' in their own little way, almost as to indicate a failure lol. Such a non forward redneck simpleton way of thinking that should be beaten to death along with all religion.
"Fucking liberal" :D
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I agree.
Very strange how people will always imbue some sort of divide, when its quite clear that Chris Kyle was not all there, before or after the war. Its actually quite sad to see someone like that.
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This
So many simple people think its this imaginary "conservative vs Liberal" thing like its a football game and people can either be one or the other lol. What a prehistoric way of thinking, things are not black and white like this at all.
I love violence myself, but to envy some guy and call him a hero because he entered another nation and killed its countrymen on their own land , then call anyone who doesn't agree with that a fucking "liberal", like calling them 'unamerican or non patriotic' in their own little way, almost as to indicate a failure lol. Such a non forward redneck simpleton way of thinking that should be beaten to death along with all religion.
The bigger issue is that Chris Kyle probably came back after the war with more problems than before he went in. And I just read that the government is now cutting some programs/funding for the VA or something like that. Don't know the exact details.
So, instead of Americans caring about the huge issue of our troops coming back totally screwed up (mentally and physically), coupled with government cuts, all they can care about is praising his movie and book. All they care is that he killed a bunch of people. But where are these same people protesting against government cuts? Where are these people advocating for better military care after the troops come home all fucked up? Not around. They only care that he killed. Once he's home, forget him and his care. Seems like these same red-blooded, die hard, wave flagging Americans are nowhere to be found. ::) ::) Most of the people who continue to advocate for good VA care are past ex-military personnel. The average American who was waving their flag when Chris Kyle was killing is now MIA. ::) ::) Very patriotic. :-\ :-\
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The bigger issue is that Chris Kyle probably came back after the war with more problems than before he went in. And I just read that the government is now cutting some programs/funding for the VA or something like that. Don't know the exact details.
So, instead of Americans caring about the huge issue of our troops coming back totally screwed up (mentally and physically), coupled with government cuts, all they can care about is praising his movie and book. All they care is that he killed a bunch of people. But where are these same people protesting against government cuts? Where are these people advocating for better military care after the troops come home all fucked up? Not around. They only care that he killed. Once he's home, forget him and his care. Seems like these same red-blooded, die hard, wave flagging Americans are nowhere to be found. ::) ::) Most of the people who continue to advocate for good VA care are past ex-military personnel. The average American who was waving their flag when Chris Kyle was killing is now MIA. ::) ::) Very patriotic. :-\ :-\
This is so fucking true its sad.
Its all about the media, they spout off about him being a hero and the people regurgitate it like zombies without even thinking about all the repercussions you just mentioned. Yeah , real fucking patriotic ::) more like brainwashed sheep who have no idea why the hell they're even praising the guy, when really, its from the media telling them to, ever since they were old enough to watch TV.
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I'm beginning to think Chris Kyle wasn't that bright
“Chris Kyle was sitting in the driver’s seat on his telephone and he texted Chad Littlefield, sitting right next to him, he texted him, ‘This dude is straight up nuts,’” Moore told jurors.
Littlefield reportedly responded, “He’s right behind me, watch my six,” using the military slang for “cover me from behind.”
If you thought a guy was "straight up nuts" would you give him access to a loaded gun and turn your back on him
I sure as shit wouldn't
WTF ?
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The bigger issue is that Chris Kyle probably came back after the war with more problems than before he went in. And I just read that the government is now cutting some programs/funding for the VA or something like that. Don't know the exact details.
So, instead of Americans caring about the huge issue of our troops coming back totally screwed up (mentally and physically), coupled with government cuts, all they can care about is praising his movie and book. All they care is that he killed a bunch of people. But where are these same people protesting against government cuts? Where are these people advocating for better military care after the troops come home all fucked up? Not around. They only care that he killed. Once he's home, forget him and his care. Seems like these same red-blooded, die hard, wave flagging Americans are nowhere to be found. ::) ::) Most of the people who continue to advocate for good VA care are past ex-military personnel. The average American who was waving their flag when Chris Kyle was killing is now MIA. ::) ::) Very patriotic. :-\ :-\
Don't recall that Kyle was neglected when he got home. He was helping others. Seems his murderer was the one who needed help. "Help" meaning a bullet, of course.
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Don't recall that Kyle was neglected when he got home. He was helping others. Seems his murderer was the one who needed help. "Help" meaning a bullet, of course.
I am not going to get into it, but you missed the whole point of my post.
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I am not going to get into it, but you missed the whole point of my post.
You already got into it, then deleted that shit.
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You already got into it, then deleted that shit.
Eh, its not worth it. No one is going to change their mind on getbig anyway.
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I'm beginning to think Chris Kyle wasn't that bright
If you thought a guy was "straight up nuts" would you give him access to a loaded gun and turn your back on him
I sure as shit wouldn't
WTF ?
takes a guy thats straight up nuts to the gun range
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takes a guy thats straight up nuts to the gun range
exactly
seems fucking stupid
and then to turn your back on him when he has access to a loaded weapon
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No one has ever explained to me how attending a gun range while suffering from PTSD is helpful or recommended? At least by anyone not named LaPierre or Nugent.
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No one has ever explained to me how attending a gun range while suffering from PTSD is helpful or recommended? At least by anyone not named LaPierre or Nugent.
especially when ever WIKI lists gunfire sounds as the #1 "trigger" of PTSD episodes and violence.
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Well that guy never saw action. I think he's just a fucking weirdo. But taking a guy that has ptsd to a gun range is really dumb
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Well that guy never saw action. I think he's just a fucking weirdo. But taking a guy that has ptsd to a gun range is really dumb
dude fled the scene like a guilty man would... insanity defense goes out the window. shot them in the back like a coward.
He was on drugs, had no business at the gun range. This whole story is weird. I bet as the years pass, we learn more and more of all of this - shooting and the other stuff - and just shake our heads.
Kyle Claim: In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, Kyle traveled to New Orleans and killed about thirty "looters" from a perch on top of the Superdome.
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/kyleclaims.asp#FU1kqj367RWu8JIk.99
I always thought this was false - Did Kyle actually make this claim? This ABSOLUTELY has to be false. Nobody would make that up, that they killed 30 people for stealing, no way.
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This is just another example of how polar opposite liberals are compared to conservatives.
Think what you want to think, pick your side and let the chips fall where they may. I really don't give a fuck anymore.
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When your job is killing ppl, you'll never be a normal person.
Kyle's job was to go to Irak and kill ppl. He was a christian, texan, patriot and liked trap bar deadlift.
Chomsky's job is to sit on a chair at MIT and writing book. He is an anarchist, almost anti usa. He's the kind of guy that will his country invaded just to avoid war.
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“Chris Kyle was sitting in the driver’s seat on his telephone and he texted Chad Littlefield, sitting right next to him, he texted him, ‘This dude is straight up nuts,’” Moore told jurors.
Littlefield reportedly responded, “He’s right behind me, watch my six,” using the military slang for “cover me from behind.”
Wait a minute….Do you mean to tell me:
- 1) Their own instincts told them that this was a dangerous situation?
- 2) They ignored the situation they were in?
- 3) They texted each other in front of Routh, but didn’t converse with him, kept silent, thereby feeding his feelings of paranoia?
I see a new reality show…in conjunction with Rocket City Rednecks…Redneck Psychotherapy.
Would Kyle and Littlefield be considered Freudian or Jung?
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kyle deadlifted with the trap bar. good enough in my book!
nuff said
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I never watch bio-films. They are hardly ever accurate but that's not the purpose. It's about drama not historical accuracy. I have no doubt American Sniper is much the same.
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They were Iraqi citizens that were illegally invaded and occupied, some of which tried to defend themselves.
+1
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he had the intuition to know they were texting about him, his extreme paranoia made him fear the worst and that's why he killed them
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If Iraqis invaded the Usa and you fought back and the Iraqi sniper shot you. Is that iraqi a hero?
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This thread shows absolute poussines
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dude fled the scene like a guilty man would... insanity defense goes out the window. shot them in the back like a coward.
He was on drugs, had no business at the gun range. This whole story is weird. I bet as the years pass, we learn more and more of all of this - shooting and the other stuff - and just shake our heads.
Kyle Claim: In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, Kyle traveled to New Orleans and killed about thirty "looters" from a perch on top of the Superdome.
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/kyleclaims.asp#FU1kqj367RWu8JIk.99
I always thought this was false - Did Kyle actually make this claim? This ABSOLUTELY has to be false. Nobody would make that up, that they killed 30 people for stealing, no way.
Well what dont you believe ? cops, mercs, and whomever else was involved with use of force during Katrina were given an ok to fire on suspected looters from what I remember.
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Well what dont you believe ? cops, mercs, and whomever else was involved with use of force during Katrina were given an ok to fire on suspected looters from what I remember.
I dont remember anything about that order, and I was glued to the news.
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I dont remember anything about that order, and I was glued to the news.
No one does. including the looters.
Epic conspiracy failure.
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Did Kyle truly claim he killed dozens of unarmed Americans for stealing, during Katrina?
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I dont remember anything about that order, and I was glued to the news.
The news isn't going to say anything about that on national TV lol! As you might remember there were private firms with operatives working in New Orleans and making very good money , why wouldn't Kyle have been there?
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why wouldn't Kyle have been there?
'Cause there are no bodies...
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'Cause there are no bodies...
Sure there were. Even the cops shot 11 looters during katrina ffs
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would gladly kill all of them and piss on the bodies
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Did Kyle truly claim he killed dozens of unarmed Americans for stealing, during Katrina?
This was widely reported including the new yorker
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/06/03/in-the-crosshairs