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any reviews or opinions? there from a very reputable guy. thanks fellas
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any reviews or opinions? there from a very reputable guy. thanks fellas
I might give these a try. I'm not 100% sure yet.
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I might give these a try. I'm not 100% sure yet.
im thinking about it myself. ive used rips in the past and they worked out as well. so much shit gh out there now is tough to pull the trigger.
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The problem with these generics is quality control and purity. There is none. Buy pharm grade if at all possible because when you take into account the fact that almost all generics are under dosed, and the purity is bad. Pharm grade really isn't that much more cost wise.
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or ghrp2 and mod grf - unless your wanting to run hgh at 5ius plus
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The problem with these generics is quality control and purity. There is none. Buy pharm grade if at all possible because when you take into account the fact that almost all generics are under dosed, and the purity is bad. Pharm grade really isn't that much more cost wise.
I agree with you about the purity and dosing. but I figure the ugl aas products I use are just as contaminated. not too worried about cost. its easier for me to get generics that's all. ive gotten a few seizure letters in the past from customs so I don't like to import anything anymore, so that kind of limits my options w pharm hgh.
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or ghrp2 and mod grf - unless your wanting to run hgh at 5ius plus
I use 10iu of generics per day along w a little slin. that's the norm for me. nothing too crazy. ive never gotten into peps. but Ive heard good and bad, like everything else.
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probably not ideal then.
hgh is one of the things i just cant handel right now, at 10ius a day i literally cant keep my eyes open at work and we are very busy right now.
black top hyge - best ive used and only thing i will touch from the correct source.
i wouldnt even use black tops from any one else tbh.
peptides at x3 a day is enough for me to keep hgh serums above 20 working in conjunction with slin
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Grey top, or TheGreyTop? Two completely different products.
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Grey top, or TheGreyTop? Two completely different products.
thegreytop
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thegreytop
the boxes that say "the Grey top" look good. I want to get into one bad. Def professional looking but I honestly have not tried them yet. the online reviews are good.
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I just got a few kits and plan on running at least 15iu a day and planning on 20iu. Just started this am, will report back.
Chubz
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I just got a few kits and plan on running at least 15iu a day and planning on 20iu. Just started this am, will report back.
Chubz
Damn why so much?
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Damn why so much?
chubz is a monster. I know his pics from another board.
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chubz is a monster. I know his pics from another board.
men a 15iu Monster! ;)
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chubz is a monster. I know his pics from another board.
Hi chubz
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men a 15iu Monster! ;)
and again hi Chubz
post a pic of your monsterous self chubz :)
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hi
i also hav a some kits of "ThegreyTop" and test it from tomorrow. i take 8iu eod.
gives any Reviews from These Greys?
greets
h
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and again hi Chubz
post a pic of your monsterous self chubz :)
Ya, he's yoked. Shoulder's like bowling balls.
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and again hi Chubz
post a pic of your monsterous self chubz :)
pretty sure he has posted some pics here. legit competitor. id definatly trust his judgment on the subject
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seen some igf-1 results come back very good, the two who supply them are the only two worth trusting when it comes to generic gh.
have yet to see a bad gh serum but its the igf results that have got me interested
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:)Thanks for the props guys, I just think I get lucky in the right lighting and shirt that appears to make me look big :)
@WW- I am running 15 a day now for 2 days, and would like to hit 20 a day. I have run 10iu or rips in the past for my last show. For my next show I am ramping things up more, I will be adjusting my slin with the growth also. I had only been doing 10iu pre workout, but did 10iu before my first meal today and will see where that gets me.
As far as pics I will be getting some new ones up soon, I plan on doing a thread at Outlaw(im thinking,I dont post a lot) and would like to do a weekly update and include everything I am doing(as I did in the past at gh15). I have a great training partner Justin Harris and things have been going good for both of us.
Chubz
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:)Thanks for the props guys, I just think I get lucky in the right lighting and shirt that appears to make me look big :)
@WW- I am running 15 a day now for 2 days, and would like to hit 20 a day. I have run 10iu or rips in the past for my last show. For my next show I am ramping things up more, I will be adjusting my slin with the growth also. I had only been doing 10iu pre workout, but did 10iu before my first meal today and will see where that gets me.
As far as pics I will be getting some new ones up soon, I plan on doing a thread at Outlaw(im thinking,I dont post a lot) and would like to do a weekly update and include everything I am doing(as I did in the past at gh15). I have a great training partner Justin Harris and things have been going good for both of us.
Chubz
any thoughts on the gh so far?? how did the puck look? taste it by any chance? on 15iu of rips Id get sleepy, not on 10 tho. how have you been feeling?? im damn close to grabbing 500ius or so of these greys. I used to love this guys gh. rips and novos(before) were always on point for me as far as generics go.
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No comment yet, GH hits everyone different......RIPS were good stuff......cracked me up all the haters against them. This is my 3rd day on grays and will really be the first day at 15iu(mon and tues were 10iu) I will let you know in a day or 2 what I think.
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hi
i have shoot yesterday my first 8iu from the Grey tops.
i must wait a Little bit for a Review. before i was on 8iu rips EOD.
greets
h
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:)Thanks for the props guys, I just think I get lucky in the right lighting and shirt that appears to make me look big :)
@WW- I am running 15 a day now for 2 days, and would like to hit 20 a day. I have run 10iu or rips in the past for my last show. For my next show I am ramping things up more, I will be adjusting my slin with the growth also. I had only been doing 10iu pre workout, but did 10iu before my first meal today and will see where that gets me.
As far as pics I will be getting some new ones up soon, I plan on doing a thread at Outlaw(im thinking,I dont post a lot) and would like to do a weekly update and include everything I am doing(as I did in the past at gh15). I have a great training partner Justin Harris and things have been going good for both of us.
Chubz
damn that's going through a kit per week. I hope you get your pro card so you start making some money. I know we all invest alot of money in ourselves with no return. most of us anyway.
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WW I'm planning on doing the Masters Nats, I'm 42, and I'm hoping to get that procard, but only for my own personal satisfaction. I knew after my first 2 shows that this sport is expensive and that I would never get my money back. I'm VERY realistic, if I got my pro card, I would compete at the 212's and I know I couldn't hang with those guys. Only the top Pros and self promoting pros make money. What hobby is cheap though, I used to drag race, this is way cheaper.
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I have way too many damn hobbies lol and not a damn one of them is easy on the bank account
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WW I'm planning on doing the Masters Nats, I'm 42, and I'm hoping to get that procard, but only for my own personal satisfaction. I knew after my first 2 shows that this sport is expensive and that I would never get my money back. I'm VERY realistic, if I got my pro card, I would compete at the 212's and I know I couldn't hang with those guys. Only the top Pros and self promoting pros make money. What hobby is cheap though, I used to drag race, this is way cheaper.
well I hope you get the nod. I know some guys just do it for themselves and I respect that. Most real exciting hobbys are spendy. Playing rec league basketbll is all I can think of that's only 40$. I know it's not the same.
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could you post a photo of these vials, i would like to see them and their top. never seen grey tops.
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There are grey tops but these on the box and the label say "the Grey Top"
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Damn they do look good, hope they work as good as they look
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so what's the verdict on this HGH? chubz wher you at? you get bloodwork done or have a opinion of the quality?
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damn that's going through a kit per week. I hope you get your pro card so you start making some money. I know we all invest alot of money in ourselves with no return. most of us anyway.
getting pro card and making money haha - that doesnt happen unless your top 10.
no mag except flex wants BB anymore they want fitness
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also i sware you guys in the US are so paranoid about hgh
Black to hyge works its real HGH and everyone decent BB in the uk with a good hook up is on them.
why use something that has no rep i dont get it.
that like someone using a new UGL that no ones heard about but this is worse because its HGH and alot fuking harder to source and alot more expensive.
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also i sware you guys in the US are so paranoid about hgh
Black to hyge works its real HGH and everyone decent BB in the uk with a good hook up is on them.
why use something that has no rep i dont get it.
that like someone using a new UGL that no ones heard about but this is worse because its HGH and alot fuking harder to source and alot more expensive.
I heard those black tops are not real hygetropin but they are legit. Id be down to try some black tops I just got these for cheaper and they were domestic. Id have to wait longer for Black tops. Besides Flex Lewis who's a Top pro from the UK?
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What do you mean its not real hyge.....
its hygene pharma its not hygetropin - ive posted the whole hyge stroy before on here.
first off i didnt say top flight BB i said Decent BB - infact i didnt even say pros.
nathan sylvester - know him personaly.
pscarb - not a pro but well respected
Jhon Hodgson
lee powel
cecil croasdaile
Zack Khan before her retired - trained with him in sheffield many times
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What do you mean its not real hyge.....
its hygene pharma its not hygetropin - ive posted the whole hyge stroy before on here.
first off i didnt say top flight BB i said Decent BB - infact i didnt even say pros.
nathan sylvester - know him personaly.
pscarb - not a pro but well respected
Jhon Hodgson
lee powel
cecil croasdaile
Zack Khan before her retired - trained with him in sheffield many times
Black tops are just basic generic chinese HGH. How long did you stay on the black tops?
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so what's the verdict on this HGH? chubz wher you at? you get bloodwork done or have a opinion of the quality?
Sorry WW, meant to get back sooner. Ok so I have only really been at 10iu a day. I haven't done a test, just really am strapped for time. My hands are numb, I'm leaning up, which is usually what happens when I start GH, I just ordered more kits, I'm really planning to be up to 15iu this week and then more if I can take it. I will get back after a week at 15iu.
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Sorry WW, meant to get back sooner. Ok so I have only really been at 10iu a day. I haven't done a test, just really am strapped for time. My hands are numb, I'm leaning up, which is usually what happens when I start GH, I just ordered more kits, I'm really planning to be up to 15iu this week and then more if I can take it. I will get back after a week at 15iu.
Thanks for the update brother. is it too early to compare them to the old Riptropin kits? I assume it would, anyway just keep us all posted! Thanks chubz!
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Keep us posted please.
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What do you mean its not real hyge.....
its hygene pharma its not hygetropin - ive posted the whole hyge stroy before on here.
first off i didnt say top flight BB i said Decent BB - infact i didnt even say pros.
nathan sylvester - know him personaly.
pscarb - not a pro but well respected
Jhon Hodgson
lee powel
cecil croasdaile
Zack Khan before her retired - trained with him in sheffield many times
Pscarb only use hyges when hes' out of pharma.
Zack mostly only uses geno's and nordi's, i know because the guy who sold Zack his geno's for nigh on 2 years got banged up along with my uncle!
don't know what he's using now though but he was most definitely not using hyges in the past couple years and he didn't speak too highly of them when asked!
the rest i have no idea to be fair so you could be right and they're top bodybuilders imo not just decent!
Cecile is a beast
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Pscarb only use hyges when hes' out of pharma.
Zack mostly only uses geno's and nordi's, i know because the guy who sold Zack his geno's for nigh on 2 years got banged up along with my uncle!
don't know what he's using now though but he was most definitely not using hyges in the past couple years and he didn't speak too highly of them when asked!
the rest i have no idea to be fair so you could be right and they're top bodybuilders imo not just decent!
Cecile is a beast
Ive never heard of one of those guys. I saw a video clip that had zack Khan in it and he was not anything special. He would not place top 10 at any of the big shows.He has won a few smaller IFBB shows.
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Ive never heard of one of those guys. I saw a video clip that had zack Khan in it and he was not anything special. He would not place top 10 at any of the big shows.
na Zack wouldn't place well at a top show, he always lacked condition. has incredible muscle shape and thickness but injuries fucked him as well. two quad tendon tears is brutal but had lots of potential - awesome muscle bellies and carried mass in the upper body really well but had weaknesses.
the others...Cecile Croasdale i think has only at one ifbb pro show where he got 10th. i was there at the british grand prix but there were some top pros he was up against like Roelly, Freeman, Branch etc
he's a beast though
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/17912/255882/d/cecilcroasdaile-3rdunder100kg1286905964.jpg)
Alvin Small for me though is the best British BB outside of Flex.
the most insane size ive ever seen on a human being - including Kai and most pros
but shape isn't the best and neither is condition.
immense strength also - 260kg bench for 6
preacher machine one arm entire stack, lost count on reps. nigh on 100kg the entire stack
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_8425_JTVTOSNLMG.jpg)
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na Zack wouldn't place well at a top show, he always lacked condition. has incredible muscle shape and thickness but injuries fucked him as well. two quad tendon tears is brutal but had lots of potential - awesome muscle bellies and carried mass in the upper body really well but had weaknesses.
the others...Cecile Croasdale i think has only at one ifbb pro show where he got 10th. i was there at the british grand prix but there were some top pros he was up against like Roelly, Freeman, Branch etc
he's a beast though
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/17912/255882/d/cecilcroasdaile-3rdunder100kg1286905964.jpg)
Alvin Small for me though is the best British BB outside of Flex.
the most insane size ive ever seen on a human being - including Kai and most pros
but shape isn't the best and neither is condition.
immense strength also - 260kg bench for 6
preacher machine one arm entire stack, lost count on reps. nigh on 100kg the entire stack
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_8425_JTVTOSNLMG.jpg)
I competed against Alvin , made us all look like swimmers... Widow, for a small country we've had our fair share of good bodybuilders... Altho we've been a bit bare since the 90's.. Yates, clairmonte, ian Harrison,eddy ellwood , Ernie Taylor, Shaun davies.... If Elwood and Harrison were American they would have been legends... Some excellent top amatures back then too
As for today, flex and Shaun tavernier are probly the best placing of the bunch.. I don't think anywhere is churning out 90's quality bodybuilders anymore
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Personaly i think nathan is the best out of the lot.
Khans a mass monster, hes never come in shredded.
nathan has insane genetics and hes strong as fuck ( means nothing in BB but one of the few that actually is strong ) . best chance the UK has at haveing someone in the top 10 at the olympia
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It's crazy you wonder why we obsess about our drugs and this is why! USA PHarma AAS and HGH are far superior to those products of other countrys otherwise there would be more of a impact made by the other countrys athletes. USA is way beyond alot of countrys when we get into drug stacks and the quality of our drugs is just better!.
The guys who don't bitch usually never go pro or they don't even do well in any shows. It is also about cash! HGH and AAS drugs are not cheap so these guys do some weird acts to get their HGH,AAS Money. You guys might think you get better drugs bet lets see how many guys outof the usa will make he Top 10 Open class.
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Personaly i think nathan is the best out of the lot.
Khans a mass monster, hes never come in shredded.
nathan has insane genetics and hes strong as fuck ( means nothing in BB but one of the few that actually is strong ) . best chance the UK has at haveing someone in the top 10 at the olympia
Is he going the 212 route, or is he doing the open classes?
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Personaly i think nathan is the best out of the lot.
Khans a mass monster, hes never come in shredded.
nathan has insane genetics and hes strong as fuck ( means nothing in BB but one of the few that actually is strong ) . best chance the UK has at haveing someone in the top 10 at the olympia
Juges will see it totally diffrent! As far as zack Khan he is nothing special he reminds me of a amateur.
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It's crazy you wonder why we obsess about our drugs and this is why! USA PHarma AAS and HGH are far superior to those products of other countrys otherwise there would be more of a impact made by the other countrys athletes. USA is way beyond alot of countrys when we get into drug stacks and the quality of our drugs is just better!.
The guys who don't bitch usually never go pro or they don't even do well in any shows. It is also about cash! HGH and AAS drugs are not cheap so these guys do some weird acts to get their HGH,AAS Money. You guys might think you get better drugs bet lets see how many guys outof the usa will make he Top 10 Open class.
one of the greatest ever bodybuilders is from Britain, the current 212 mr O is also.
Big Ramy from a foreign shore and lives in Kuwait, Dennis Wolf lived in Germany while making waves in the IFBB and moved to vegas only a few years ago, Ronny Rockel i think never moved to the US permanently, Gunter the same, Nasser moved after he turned pro. Sammir Bannout, Mohammed Mustafa, Makkawy, Brian Buchanan, Clairmonte the list goes on and on!
so much for non-US bodybuilders not making much of an impact! no?
world's comps are filled with quality physiques - in Dennis James, Palumbo's and many others opinion many of them are better than some of current stateside ifbb pros
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=555460.0;attach=588035;image)
(http://www.maxximum-portal.com/forum/richedit/upload/MP2k947ca4562ef.jpg)
reason why US bodybuilders are so abundant is because of its much larger population compared to other nations! and not to mention ifbb politics. only one pro card a year handed out in the UK and thats to the overall winner, likewise the case in most countries so most stay amateur as they have a better chance at prize money. just a couple years ago the UK overall winner refused the ifbb pro card as he didn't have any backing from a sponsor.
the npc hand out pro cards like its going out of fashion and lot of them are sponsored or close to sponsorship deals.
its more about cash than quality of drugs.
Big Ramy lives in Kuwait, he definitely doesn't get his gear from the US.
nabba world competitors, Wolf until 2011, too many examples for you to choose from.
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these middle eastern guys are fucking insane
follow kuwaitbodybuilding on instagram
https://instagram.com/kuwaitbodybuilding
some guys there would do some damage on the olympia stage, no doubt
the guy on the left on ur pic, anwar seif or something is his name
he looks like a dog in the face but hes fu**ing huge as fu*k lol
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Im not saying their are not some quality phsyiques but mazfit makes it out like we shouldn;t care or be so sketched out about our HGh quality. I can find his quote. Bottom line top 5 at the Mr.O has Dennis SWolf as the only guy that is not a USA Bodybuilder
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I just don't care for quotes like this--
mazfit
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also i sware you guys in the US are so paranoid about hgh
Black to hyge works its real HGH and everyone decent BB in the uk with a good hook up is on them.
why use something that has no rep i dont get it.
that like someone using a new UGL that no ones heard about but this is worse because its HGH and alot fuking harder to source and alot more expensive
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We are careful for good reasons. You might fool some people into buying you are a Pro BB but I don't buy it. If you can prove it I would apologize for denying you. alot of peole are questioning your credentials. I of course never claimed I was much of a top level bodybuilder! It's just way too big of a subjective sport for me! I don't want to kill anybodys dreams but don;t say your a pro unless you can back it up. If you claim your a pro of course people are going to be curious who you are. Bostin Lloyd is just a shitty amateur bodybuilder and you are comparing a UK pro to him. Of course a UK pro should have a tremendous edge on Bostin Lloyd.
I don;t hate any races I just don;t like these Gh15 type guys who claim Pro but never back it up with anything!
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Im not saying their are not some quality phsyiques but mazfit makes it out like we shouldn;t care or be so sketched out about our HGh quality. I can find his quote. Bottom line top 5 at the Mr.O has Dennis SWolf as the only guy that is not a USA Bodybuilder
completely agree with you there.
gh is a minefield right now, has been since rips were shut down last year and well before that with ord.
grey tops seem the most consistent now and probably no surprise its the same main two suppliers of rips who are behind them.
but still, since competition is lowest it has been for years, have to wonder about the quality of any generic gh.
before there were thanks, novos, rips, old hyges etc a lot to choose from and it kept quality good for a generic.
now theres barely anything.
doesnt matter if it makes you hold water or if its diluted with god knows what as long as the gh serums and igf tests come back decent because theres not much else to choose from.
ive seen them black top hyges score all over the place.
every single supplier in the uk has them, walk into any gym and its easier to get than a protein shake.
personally would never spend a penny on them, especially with one recent serum coming back in single digits (codes checked out too)
right now its probably pharma or nothing. hopefully grey tops stay consistent, i'll be using them myself soon.
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dont have a meltdown...............
HYgenepharma blazck tops from the right place is legit hgh-
from the wrong place its crap.
know your source.
So what about the black tops that were scoring huge serum numbers......
yes exactly from the right source, fucking easy to get a real box n code and slip some fake hgh in easy as piss.
say it again for the last time the CBA to talk about this shit anymore.
black top hygenepharma from the correct source is 100% real hgh.
for every bunk test of black tops there 20 good ones.
im not talking about HGH anymore its a boring boring subject.
use what u trust thats it
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one of the greatest ever bodybuilders is from Britain, the current 212 mr O is also.
Big Ramy from a foreign shore and lives in Kuwait, Dennis Wolf lived in Germany while making waves in the IFBB and moved to vegas only a few years ago, Ronny Rockel i think never moved to the US permanently, Gunter the same, Nasser moved after he turned pro. Sammir Bannout, Mohammed Mustafa, Makkawy, Brian Buchanan, Clairmonte the list goes on and on!
so much for non-US bodybuilders not making much of an impact! no?
world's comps are filled with quality physiques - in Dennis James, Palumbo's and many others opinion many of them are better than some of current stateside ifbb pros
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=555460.0;attach=588035;image)
(http://www.maxximum-portal.com/forum/richedit/upload/MP2k947ca4562ef.jpg)
reason why US bodybuilders are so abundant is because of its much larger population compared to other nations! and not to mention ifbb politics. only one pro card a year handed out in the UK and thats to the overall winner, likewise the case in most countries so most stay amateur as they have a better chance at prize money. just a couple years ago the UK overall winner refused the ifbb pro card as he didn't have any backing from a sponsor.
the npc hand out pro cards like its going out of fashion and lot of them are sponsored or close to sponsorship deals.
its more about cash than quality of drugs.
Big Ramy lives in Kuwait, he definitely doesn't get his gear from the US.
nabba world competitors, Wolf until 2011, too many examples for you to choose from.
EXACTLY
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dont have a meltdown...............
HYgenepharma blazck tops from the right place is legit hgh-
from the wrong place its crap.
know your source.
So what about the black tops that were scoring huge serum numbers......
yes exactly from the right source, fucking easy to get a real box n code and slip some fake hgh in easy as piss.
say it again for the last time the CBA to talk about this shit anymore.
black top hygenepharma from the correct source is 100% real hgh.
for every bunk test of black tops there 20 good ones.
im not talking about HGH anymore its a boring boring subject.
use what u trust thats it
Bro you said this
"also i sware you guys in the US are so paranoid about hgh"
We should be concerned about our HGH purchases, if we were not concerned everybody would just buy the cheapest blue top HGH we can find. sorry but when a 100IU kit of HGH gets down to 100$ it should be questioned. Everybody has to be careful when they buy HGH. It is such a huge market that guys counterfeit.
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true point taken.
its a case of know your source - and even then its onlyt as good as how much he trusts his supplier.
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true point taken.
its a case of know your source - and even then its onlyt as good as how much he trusts his supplier.
True I knew a source who was immaculate but he ended up selling way over 100,000$ in bunk kigtropin and he didn't know it was bad,in the end nobody got their money back and some guy in china lives in a brand new house because of that scam.
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not good.
the only thing i have is my guy had his blood taken in london after the blacvktops he has
and his serum levels were through the roof, also a few more people taking it had serum levels taken and posted on the UK forums, tmuscle, uk muscle ect.
however ive heard of ADH being added to give lethargy, bloatedness ect.
so your probably correct in the mionefield analagy
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only thing to report is a red painful injection site. 10iu shot.
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not good.
the only thing i have is my guy had his blood taken in london after the blacvktops he has
and his serum levels were through the roof, also a few more people taking it had serum levels taken and posted on the UK forums, tmuscle, uk muscle ect.
however ive heard of ADH being added to give lethargy, bloatedness ect.
so your probably correct in the mionefield analagy
no serums of hyges on tmuscle.
only serums on uk-muscle were for the old yellow and green top hyges .cn brand from 2 or 3 years ago, unless i missed them as im not an active member there, i am on tmuscle and none there.
had a good look around ukm to be fair and couldn't find anything on black tops.
only good serums ive seen were a couple on eroids and i wouldn't trust any of those fuckers if you paid me.
only way to be certain is to get a gh serum yourself and after a month get an igf-1 test.
even then, batches might differ in consistency.
grey tops have been tested by many more people, vets on other boards who have no affiliation seemingly to anyone.
a few have been testing all different brands and seeing which is most consistent.
i haven't seen a grey top serum come back lower than mid 20's.
still cant be certain though but at least i know some of those vets, eroids is full of fucking newbies who are still wet behind the ears.
personally, if i had to choose a generic it would be one that has been tested almost every month and almost every batch by members who have been around for a while and some who have been testing generics for years.
right now thats grey tops. ive never seen a bad word written about HK
every generic he's had has been tested to be decent at the least. id be confident getting a generic from him and nobody else.
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only pharma i can afford are sero's but only at 5ius max.
at that dose they're on par with a good generic at 10ius which are cheaper.
bollocks to that, trying to get hold of some well priced nordi's off someone i know but too many fakes about. gh serums are too fucking expensive in the uk, more than the gh itself!
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only pharma i can afford are sero's but only at 5ius max.
at that dose they're on par with a good generic at 10ius which are cheaper.
bollocks to that, trying to get hold of some well priced nordi's off someone i know but too many fakes about. gh serums are too fucking expensive in the uk, more than the gh itself!
Only at 5 iu's of Seros? You should be getting fantastic results from that. You don't need anymore than that actually. I can't stay awake at that dose. Want to sleep all day.
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Only at 5 iu's of Seros? You should be getting fantastic results from that. You don't need anymore than that actually. I can't stay awake at that dose. Want to sleep all day.
ive ran 4ius at most so far and tbh i found the old rips at 8-10ius to be better and stronger (obviously double the dose!) but it was a fair bit cheaper too which is the main reason id go that route.
found them more effective at a cheaper cost even though sero's gave a better look. but that better look doesn't justify the extra cost for me, the higher igf-1 levels from the higher dosed rips made them worth it.
if these greys are being compared to rips then i would rather run 10ius of these than 5ius sero's because they'd be on par at least in effectiveness while saving money.
less water and sides with the sero's but as far as pharm grade goes its one of the worst imho
i used nordi's last year at 4ius and while growth/fat loss was similar the look it gave was clearly different - dryer and fuller oddly.
both genuine at the time from a clinic warehouse. gutted ive lost that link, his depot moved location.
if i had a choice between nordi's and geno's or rips/greys then it would definitely be the pharm grade. less gh and less igf-1 but for the difference in look i think its worth the extra cost. not so for sero's though imo, better look than the generic but not as much as norditropin or genotropin.
(i think theres a difference in manufacturing them brands too, the guy i used to get them off would deliver them to patients and sero's were the only gh he was able to deliver unrefrigerated. norditropin, genotropin and humatrope all had to be refrigerated during transit and by patients when received.)
sero's could be kept out, i think omnitrope too if i remember right. something about them having different manufacturing methods and properties.
also 4-5ius for someone in their mid-20ius probably isn't worth the extra expense either.
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Only at 5 iu's of Seros? You should be getting fantastic results from that. You don't need anymore than that actually. I can't stay awake at that dose. Want to sleep all day.
having said all that, who knows when the chinamen will drop the ball and start sending out underdosed crap.
no doubt about the purity, nowhere near as good as pharma but if its properly dosed (gh serum will prove) and if its being accepted by the body (igf-1 test will prove, converting gh to igf-1) then at least we're getting the growth/fat loss benefits even if the look while on em isn't the best.
no such issue with pharma as you said, but having igf-1 levels 200 odd points higher is too good to say no to.
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So would u not run the black tops
I trust my guy - but that doesn't mean they are underdosed or bunk
I can also get pharma and green tops
But the pharma is fukin expensive even with my discounts
And I asked him il pay for the pharma if there better
He said id be better buying the black tops
But then again maybe coz he makes a higher margin on blacks
I've been running peptides but tbh I noticed more leanness ect on the blacks
I also noticed insane lethargy and tight hands on the blacks
But again could be other shit the Chinese put in it to make that happen
I guess I defend the blacks so much coz I was putting that in my body
And obviously when u put money towords something and are injecting it in you
U want it to be good.
What's ur thought there underdosed or not GH atall
They give the side effects but that means nothing
Sure there's a serum report on muscle talk mate
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Also there are black going round the UK
That aren't hygene pharma
They don't even come from the same factory
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mate best thing any of us can do is get a serum test ourselves. im doing the same actually, i used to have the perfect fucking link last year - fella worked as a delivery driver for a medical transit company. used to deliver all sorts of meds to clinics, private patients, nursing homes etc
lucky bastard had a fridge fitted van with prescription norditropin, humatrope and omnitrope.
every week he would go to the depot and swipe a fair few of them!
i used to get 30ius nordi carts for 70 off him. fucking company moved depot to Stoke though! got made redundant.
but you're right, genunie pharma is available..just have to know one of those depot workers. i know a supplier who claims he has legit nordi's for under a ton but to make sure im getting a test:
https://www.medichecks.com/find-a-test/test/Growth-Hormone_GH/
https://www.medichecks.com/find-a-test/test/IGF1_SOMA/
^these are home tests, they send you the pack and just send off a spot of blood, get results in a week. pricey though but can get a gh serum and an igf-1 test for under 200
http://bloodtestslondon.com/epages/55f08637-cd18-4fe4-b467-5a1f8b0d05d9.sf/en_GB/?ObjectID=519781
^this one's good if you're in london, cheap but have to go to the clinic for the test. i think they got a bogof offer on tests over 60 so can get both gh and igf for just over 70.
its worth the money long term tbh mate, at least you know that batch is on point and can order a few off them.
i dont trust any hyge now personally. HK is the man when it comes chinese gh, the main hyge factory closed down. ton of hyges have surfaced since...i think two types of black tops like you said.
if he isn't willing to put his name to any of them then its for a reason. he did say the proper hygene stopped producing a long time ago. anything under that name is counterfeit, using that name for their benefit.
the only gh he's offering are grey tops. ton of serums on them and igf-1 tests too, all good but lately people complaining of red welts. so who knows?
good lad ive known on the boards for a while is chuffed with them so i might resort to these if i have to.
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Started thegreytop for the first time this week , Literally started 5ius Ed this Monday . and yes it's coming for a great trusted source . Keep you guys in the loop .
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So would u not run the black tops
I trust my guy - but that doesn't mean they are underdosed or bunk
I can also get pharma and green tops
But the pharma is fukin expensive even with my discounts
And I asked him il pay for the pharma if there better
He said id be better buying the black tops
But then again maybe coz he makes a higher margin on blacks
I've been running peptides but tbh I noticed more leanness ect on the blacks
I also noticed insane lethargy and tight hands on the blacks
But again could be other shit the Chinese put in it to make that happen
I guess I defend the blacks so much coz I was putting that in my body
And obviously when u put money towords something and are injecting it in you
U want it to be good.
What's ur thought there underdosed or not GH atall
They give the side effects but that means nothing
Sure there's a serum report on muscle talk mate
Have you used pharma? Your friend says the blacks are better because he makes money on them.
Get a few kits of Humatrope or Serostim, no generic comes close. You can use about 1/4 the dose, and the results are superior with pharma. Best thing, it's pure and what's on the label is what's in the vial/pen. No bullshit fillers, impurities or water retention. You know exactly what you're putting in your body.