Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure
Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Drij on February 22, 2006, 09:55:38 PM
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why with what we know about training, nutrition, supplements, steroids hasn't transcended to "normal" everyday people. Especially in North America? Why isn't this second nature for the well being of people. It's irritating that bodybuilding way of life isn't normal.
It's not as if I expect people to look like Milos Sarcev but where is the self respect to actually take care of your body. Why aren't people educated to think this way. Why isn't this mandatory in school. People can exercise all they want but majority don't know what to consume. Yes economic situations play a role but even people with money look like shit to.
Why hasn't the bodybuilding knowledge/method become normal, mainstream isn't the right word.
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The same reason other knowledge isn't common among normal people. Knowledge of science for instance. Did you know most Americans still believe in Intelligent Design? That some God made the world in the last 6,000 years?
Actually most people believe Creatine is a Steroid and spot reduction is possible and that Pro's don't use steroids.
Some people have alot of knowledge when it comes to specific things. I'm willing to bet some people on here who know alot about fitness know squat about science and believe in intelligent Design. Just like some astro-physicists don't know much about Fitness.
The reason "normal" people don't know these things is due to the fact it's not readly available knowledge. If you want to know these things you need to "study" and "Research" something most peope don't care to do due to their lazyness.
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The same reason other knowledge isn't common among normal people. Knowledge of science for instance. Did you know most Americans still believe in Intelligent Design? That some God made the world in the last 6,000 years?
Oh great, another athiest Liberal, LOL....okay dude whatever!
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i doubt half teh people in this country believe in intelligent design. there is no way.
i bet half the people dont even know what that means
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besides, people arent down with needles on a weekly basis
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besides, people arent down with needles on a weekly basis
^That's what it comes down to, CavNugga.
DIV
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You're also forgetting that many industries profit from the misinformation that they peddle.
Why else would they still be making the latest and greatest ab machine which will flatten
absolutely nothing. It is often not in the interest of these industries for the truth to be
widely known - instead we are bombarded with lies about how to get in shape.
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Oh great, another athiest Liberal, LOL....okay dude whatever!
Yes i'm an atheist, What of it?
i doubt half teh people in this country believe in intelligent design. there is no way.
i bet half the people dont even know what that means
Actually about 47% of Americans believe a "God" made the world in the last 6,000 years. lol
http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_publi.htm
besides, people arent down with needles on a weekly basis
False, People are OK with daily shots for diabetes or other medicines. It's not about needles.
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What do you think that society in general is going to be interested or admire the sport of bodybuilding.
Well, ALL of the athletes take and or deal illecit drugs, they ALL look like freaks to the general public and most end up dead before 50, in jail or somewhere in between.
The fact is that we are in the VERY SMALL minority of people who actually are interested in this sport (and I use that word loosely).
Bodybuilding will NEVER become mainstream, it hasn't in 50 years and it will never...it should just be content to still have a solid group of followers. The fact that bodybuilders can still make a living doing what they do, should be good enough for them.
Whenever I hear them say that they should organize for more money, I can't help but laugh. Olympic athletes have to have second jobs for fucks sake and they should be making more?????
Personally, I don't give a shit what they take or how much of it and couldn't care less what they are doing to their major internal organs....I just want to see how f'ing huge someone can get.
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why with what we know about training, nutrition, supplements, steroids hasn't transcended to "normal" everyday people. Especially in North America? Why isn't this second nature for the well being of people. It's irritating that bodybuilding way of life isn't normal.
It's not as if I expect people to look like Milos Sarcev but where is the self respect to actually take care of your body. Why aren't people educated to think this way. Why isn't this mandatory in school. People can exercise all they want but majority don't know what to consume. Yes economic situations play a role but even people with money look like shit to.
Why hasn't the bodybuilding knowledge/method become normal, mainstream isn't the right word.
taking steriods is NOT normal.
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i want to say the guy didn't mean BB as we know just a healthier lifestyle.
people don't better because they are taught. by taught i mean what the media shows you. if every ad, trainer, magizine says that if you do a million crunches you will have abs by summer then thats what you know.
the best thing to do is start with the young and teach your cousins your kids your friends kids about a healthier life style.
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Saying Pro Bodybuilding or Bodybuilding itself will never go mainstream is pessimistic. 30 years ago they said Rap would never go mainstream. 60 years ago Rock would not go mainstream. 100 years ago automobiles would never be a mainstream thing,Why who in the hell would buy an expensive automobile when they can buy a horse that is more reliable? :o
The fact of the matter is I see bodybuilding going mainstream and the key is through good advertising. Americans are getting fatter and unhealthier year after year and they will start to look up to fit and healthy people and buy into their products and try to emulate them.
More and More people are buying flex magazines today than they ever did 20 years ago. More and more people are visiting bodybuilding websites and forums. Look at the number of people on Bodybuilding.com forum..It's increasing daily. More and more people are becoming interested in the bodybuilding lifestyle because they want big muscles too.
The only problem is the promoters need to grow up. The people who promote the shows and who run the shows are amateurs. For instance remember last olympia when the posing music wasn't copyrighted so the announcer had to talk over their music the whole time? That was just amateur and sloppy. What they should do is hire some music man who can coustomize each pro's posing music. The pro can go meet with the music guy and he can coustomize their music right on the computer in less than 10 minutes and make a good exciting coustom music that they own so they don't need to use uncopyrighted music for posing.
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lol
tell me ronnie colemans physique is the results
of intelligent design ok?
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You're also forgetting that many industries profit from the misinformation that they peddle.
Why else would they still be making the latest and greatest ab machine which will flatten
absolutely nothing. It is often not in the interest of these industries for the truth to be
widely known - instead we are bombarded with lies about how to get in shape.
Same goes with steroids and it's benefits. It's all misinformation ...
thats my point, other than keeping this information we have why isn't it becoming more of the norm. Who is getting the information out, who's the voice? No one. Knowledge is key to getting anywhere. Bodybuilding has been around for along time but has stayed within a certain group this needs to expand. Psychological effects and performance needs to be stressed about it's benefits.
Also with all those ab machines and other bs machines the reality is it takes hard work and concentration but when you put it like that who wants to do it and stick with it consistently. Theres no other way around it though if you have strong work ethic and see the benefits. People have to know what good nutrition and proper maintenance does for you. I have no idea what other people perceive about those ideas.
Bodybuilders are proof that this works, us not included, wouldn't want to look like this. But they're proof and why isn't there anybody to speak up for this?
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lol
tell me ronnie colemans physique is the results
of intelligent design ok?
he does have a big butt though doesn't he?
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Bodybuilding will never be anything but a subculture, and I woudn't have it any other way. I started bodybuilding because I wanted to be the biggest dog in the pack. It wouldn't be cool if everybody did it. Most of the people buying FLEX are 15 year old kids who want to get real big real fast. Once they realize its hard and takes effort, they quit, just like any other fad.
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why with what we know about training, nutrition, supplements, steroids hasn't transcended to "normal" everyday people. Especially in North America? Why isn't this second nature for the well being of people. It's irritating that bodybuilding way of life isn't normal.
It's not as if I expect people to look like Milos Sarcev but where is the self respect to actually take care of your body. Why aren't people educated to think this way. Why isn't this mandatory in school. People can exercise all they want but majority don't know what to consume. Yes economic situations play a role but even people with money look like shit to.
Why hasn't the bodybuilding knowledge/method become normal, mainstream isn't the right word.
The average person does not care to have an enormous physique, and especially care to do what it takes to get one, given you have the genes to do so. We are in the minority. The aquisition of excess muscle mass is not a prerequisite for optimal health or longevity either.
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but it seems to be the norm for people to gain excessive fat.
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Milk does the body good.
Great Egg goodness.
Fuck creatine I'll use steriods.
Thank you sir may I have another shot!
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I hope it will NEVER go mainstream, because I like looking better than most people and make em feel miserable.
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People don want to take care of them selves becus it is hard work. ive spoken to meany people and they always give me some lame excuse as to why they dont exersise. botem line is there is just a genuin lack of caring umgst (at leat in the U.S.) poulation. people want the easy way out. i mean after all which is easyer, making it to the gym at leat 3days a week, or not geting off your ass and waching surviver re-runs or some othere crap on t.v.? we are a society of lasy uneducate (in the regards of Sience, History, Literecher, world afairs, and Helth) couch potatos. at the same time humens are also a crecher that resists change even if it is for the beter, so there for whith all this combiend we get the anser as to why body building (or phsical helth in genral) will never catch on.
p.s. by the way im dislexick so pleas forgive my poor spelling.
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The same reason other knowledge isn't common among normal people. Knowledge of science for instance. Did you know most Americans still believe in Intelligent Design? That some God made the world in the last 6,000 years?
Actually most people believe Creatine is a Steroid and spot reduction is possible and that Pro's don't use steroids.
Some people have alot of knowledge when it comes to specific things. I'm willing to bet some people on here who know alot about fitness know squat about science and believe in intelligent Design. Just like some astro-physicists don't know much about Fitness.
The reason "normal" people don't know these things is due to the fact it's not readly available knowledge. If you want to know these things you need to "study" and "Research" something most peope don't care to do due to their lazyness.
Ok since you are the all knowing where did we evolve, from rocks??? Where's the missing link there buddy?? There's not one!!! You shouldn't discount "intelligent design" unless you can prove otherwise, but u can't can you????
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People don want to take care of them selves becus it is hard work. ive spoken to meany people and they always give me some lame excuse as to why they dont exersise. botem line is there is just a genuin lack of caring umgst (at leat in the U.S.) poulation. people want the easy way out. i mean after all which is easyer, making it to the gym at leat 3days a week, or not geting off your ass and waching surviver re-runs or some othere crap on t.v.? we are a society of lasy uneducate (in the regards of Sience, History, Literecher, world afairs, and Helth) couch potatos. at the same time humens are also a crecher that resists change even if it is for the beter, so there for whith all this combiend we get the anser as to why body building (or phsical helth in genral) will never catch on.
p.s. by the way im dislexick so pleas forgive my poor spelling.
chill on the apologizing
we're a website that prefers concepts over spelling, punctuation and grammar
only a few here are overly anal teacher wannabes :)
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Most ppl dont care about being big and therefore dont understand why anyone wud want to! especially when u need to use a needle to do it!
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it can be sufisently proven that the world is more than 6000 years old, however there is no proof to dismis the existance of a god/gods. but still, last i chect the U.C. sistem (universety of california) exepts that inteligent desine is a religus studys class and there for is not a sience. there is far to much proof to discount evalution but at the same time there is to much proof to discount god. after all would it be faith if all the anseres where given to us?
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what did you just write? evaluation? why can't people spell.
anyway there needs to be the proper info presented for better health.
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yea im a bad speller. but i was tring to spell evalution
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the only people that will bothere to look for the ansers to helth problems are the ones that already want to fined it or they are thretined whith death, the rest of the population wont even bother it is the, fix it when it becoms a majer problem mentality.
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yea im a bad speller. but i was tring to spell evalution
did u ever meet our father
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??? i don't understand what you mean?
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??? i don't understand what you mean?
Neither can I, quit typing
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yea im a bad speller.
Actually, you're a very bad speller.
If English isn't your first language, I suppose it can be excused, but if you were born in an English-speaking country you're practically illiterate.
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no i am not retarded, i am dislexic i will never be abel to spell corectly.
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I am realy growing tiered of repeting my self! >:(
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so u see shit backwards? have you ever tried flipping your screen upside down, bullshit buddy. ;D
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Reading for the longest time was like desipering hyroglificks. spelling is like tring to wright them. its not easy and to make it worse is tat people keep giving me a hard tim about it.
and yes somtimes i do see things backwords from time to time
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use the spell check
and most people are too lazy or not vain enough to care what they look like, plus food is to readily available and taste so good.
I also believe it helps to be obsessive compulsive to be into bodybuilding, because the lifestyle can take over every waking moment of your life
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there is no proof to dismis the existance of a god/gods.
Classic non-sense.
You don't have to prove a non-existence but the existence of something (base of physics)
Gods and religions are the worst human being inventions.
(do you have to prove that ghosts don't exist, that Santa Claus doesn't exist, that Loch-Ness monster doesn't exist, ...)
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Ok since you are the all knowing where did we evolve, from rocks??? Where's the missing link there buddy?? There's not one!!! You shouldn't discount "intelligent design" unless you can prove otherwise, but u can't can you????
1.We did not evolve from rocks. We all evolved from microscropic single celled organisims about 4 billion years ago. They formed from complex chemicals on the early earth through a process called "abiogenesis".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_experiment
2."Missing links" makes no sense. There are millions of links missing in the evolutionary tree of life but there are also millions of known links between species. We call them "Transitional fossils" in archeology and there are millions of them.
Link to Dinosaur-Bird transitionals.
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC214.html
http://www.origins.tv/darwin/dinobirds.htm
Human Evolutionary family tree with fossils included.
http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/a_tree.html
Here is a photo of a Homo ergaster which is one of our Non-human ancestors.
(http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/images/37333.jpg)
This species lived about 1.7 million years ago and their populations gradually evolved into homo-sapiens(Humans) over time.
It's obvious you don't have a clue about evolution or biology so here are a few links detailing the proof supporting evolution.
Observed speciation(Macro evolution observed by humans directly)
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/speciation.html
Battling bacterial evolution: The work of Carl Bergstrom
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/0_0_0/bergstrom_01
How does evolution impact my life?
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/search/topicbrowse2.php?topic_id=47
A good list of Creationist claims and their refutations
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html
Proof of common descent(All life on earth evolved from common ancestors 4 billion years ago) including endogenius retroviruses,Redundant DNA,and Pseudo gene mutations.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
Lastly.."Intelligent Design" is different from "Creationism" Intelligent design is just the claim that the universe must of been designed by an intelligence. Creationism is the belief the bible God made the world about 6,000 years ago.(Disproven by modern science)
Intelligent Design and Evolution can exist hand in hand. Creationism is proven false.
I personally do not believe in intelligent design(A god made the universe) simply because there is no evidence it is true. I do not claim a god did not make the universe I simply lack a belief in it due to lack of evidence supporting it.
Also this is not the thread or area for this type of debate. You can make a new thread questioning evolution and post the link here or PM me the link and i'll refute your beliefs there.
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Take a look at this link.
http://www.trueorigin.org/abio.asp (http://www.trueorigin.org/abio.asp)
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Keep it on track, guys.
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Because bodybuilding has its own unique set of values and morals that are often very different from the general public, even opposite than those of mainstream America. Most people's priorities do not include the need to be bigger or more muscular than someone else. Plus it takes hard work and effort for most to maintain a healthy looking physique and people would rather focus on spending their extra time w/ family or on their careers and finances.
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no kidding delete this get rid of this God/evolution out of this completely side tracked this thread with this shit.
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Take a look at this link.
http://www.trueorigin.org/abio.asp (http://www.trueorigin.org/abio.asp)
That's only about Abiogenesis firstly...
Secondly...
Seen it,Read it dozens of times in the past and could refute all of it. It isn't science it's "Pseudo science". That entire site itself is created by non-scientists while the link I posted was from Berkeley University in California and the other link from the Smithsonian Museum of Science.
You can make a new thread in the other area for this though if you want and i'll refute everything there,Just not whole websites at a time..Don't have that kind of time on my hands.
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Johnny Apollo is just angry that his uncle Percy touched him inappropriately behind the families double-wide. Get over it already, bitch.
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99% of the world does not know or understand Bodybuilding, general health, nutrition or weight training.
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99% of the world does not know or understand Bodybuilding, general health, nutrition or weight training.
They are so stupid
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Bodybuilding will never be anything but a subculture, and I woudn't have it any other way. I started bodybuilding because I wanted to be the biggest dog in the pack. It wouldn't be cool if everybody did it. Most of the people buying FLEX are 15 year old kids who want to get real big real fast. Once they realize its hard and takes effort, they quit, just like any other fad.
Right. Everybody wants to look in shape. I have dozens of people each week who have the same goals and questions. They usually come in all charged up and ready to kick ass, but after a few weeks of this and as we all know our progress is measured in inches and single lbs. When this gets hard and the results arn't fast enough than they give in. They have so many excuses, I don't have the space to print all of them. Bottom line is that they want the look, but don't or can't pay the dues it takes to get there. www.nutritionaledge.org