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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: littleguns on February 23, 2006, 10:50:41 AM
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Who really had the better body?
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I'm going with flex but levrone is pretty close
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I think that Flex may have had a more aesthetically pleasing body, but Levrone was closer to being Mr. Olympia.
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Both hot bods.
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Pretty close in my mind
Highlights of Kevin's career include:
2002 IFBB Arnold Classic - 5th;
2001 British Grand Prix - 1st;
2001 England Grand Prix - 1st;
2001 MR OLYMPIA - 3rd;
2000 MR OLYMPIA - 2nd; 2000
Arnold Classic 3rd;
1999 Grand Prix England 3rd;
1999 Joe Weiders Pro World 3rd;
1999 Mr. Olympia 4th;
1999 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic 2nd;
1998 Mr. Olympia 4th;
1997 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic 8th;
1997 Grand Prix Russia 2nd;
1997 Grand Prix Spain 1st;
1997 Grand Prix Czech Republic 1st;
1997 Grand Prix England 1st; 1997 Grand Prix Finland 1st;
1997 Grand Prix Germany 1st;
1997 Grand Prix Hungary 1st;
1997 Mr. Olympia 4th;
1996 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic 1st;
1996 Grand Prix Czech Republic 2nd;
1996 Grand Prix England 4th;
1996 Grand Prix Germany 3rd;
1996 Grand Prix Switzerland 3rd;
1996 Mr. Olympia 4th;
1996 San Jose Pro Invitational 1st;
1995 Grand Prix England 2nd;
1995 Grand Prix Germany 1st;
1995 Mr. Olympia 2nd;
1994 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic 1st;
1994 Grand Prix Germany 2nd;
1994 Grand Prix England 2nd;
1994 Mr. Olympia 3rd; 1993
Mr. Olympia 5th;
1992 Mr. Olympia 2nd
Some of Flexs highlights include:
1993 Ironman Pro 1st place;
1993 Arnold Classic 1st place;
1993 Mr. Olympia 2nd place;
1995 Ironman Pro 1st place;
1995 Arnold Classic 2nd place;
1995 South Beach Pro 1st place;
1995 Mr. Olympia 8th place;
1995 Grand Prix Spain 5th place;
1996 Ironman Pro 1st place;
1996 Arnold Classic 2nd place;
1996 Night of Champions 1st place;
1996 Canada Pro Classic 2nd place;
1996 Florida Cup Pro 1st place;
1996 Mr. Olympia 4th place;
1997 Ironman Pro 1st place;
1997 Arnold Classic 1st place;
1997 San Jose Pro 1st place;
1998 IFBB Ironman Invitational 1st place;
1998 IFBB Arnold Classic Flex Wheeler took 1st place;
1998 Mr Olympia - 2nd place;
1999 Grand Prix England - 2nd place;
1999 Joe Weider's PRO WORLD - 2nd place;
1999 Mr Olympia - 2nd place;
2000 Mr Olympia - 3rd place;
2000 Hungarian Grand Prix - 1st place;
2000 Arnold Classic - 1st place;
2000 IRONMAN PRO INVITATIONAL - 2nd place
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I think that Flex may have had a more aesthetically pleasing body, but Levrone was closer to being Mr. Olympia.
Yeah i think levrone worked harder (in the beginning) flex didnt like to train as much.
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Any of the pros wish to put their 2 cents in....
Lee?
Shawn?
Chick?
Kev?
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In their prime...
http://media.putfile.com/1999-English-Grand-Prix
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In their prime...
http://media.putfile.com/1999-English-Grand-Prix
Awesome clip. I had no idea that Ruehl has been around this long. He dwarfed Nasser.....
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Flex hands down!!!
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They were at the pinnacle of their careers...
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they are both pathetic!! both using synthol as if it was going out of style!!
...now, now...where do you see such allegations? ::)
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Flex's calves.......
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Flex admit of using exciclean or watever its called and would inject it into everysingle part of his body.. he also admitted Levrone bought out the market!
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Flex
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Levrone luuuuvd his exciclean I heard also..
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Flex's calves.......
Ignorance can be bliss!!! ::)
How many times must this be corrected. You may want to read the million other Flex threads for the truth.
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While we're at it:
Ali or Tyson
Kennedy or Clinton
Aerosmith or Stones
Brittney or Jessica
Chicken or Beef
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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While we're at it:
Ali or Tyson
Kennedy or Clinton
Aerosmith or Stones
Brittney or Jessica
Chicken or Beef ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
LOL!!!!! ;D
Tyson (off of prozac and back on the sauce)
Clinton (owned the world with the websters definition of "sexual relations")
Stones (no good reason)
Jessica (still in shape, single and not a fat ass pig like Brittany who btw is straight out the trailer park)
chicken (summer is near and don't need the extra sat fat)
NEXT........... ;D ;) ;D
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While we're at it:
Ali or Tyson
Kennedy or Clinton
Aerosmith or Stones
Brittney or Jessica
Chicken or Beef ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Shawn, you forgot KFC or Churchs Chicken. :P
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Shawn, you forgot KFC or Churchs Chicken. :P
Popeyes!!! ;D
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Shawn or Flavio?....Tough Call
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Bertil or Titus ;D
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While we're at it:
Ali or Tyson
Kennedy or Clinton
Aerosmith or Stones
Brittney or Jessica
Chicken or Beef ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Sean its Jessica all the way... Come on you agree right
sean ???
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Popeyes!!! ;D
You are from Atlanta
I went to the atlanta in a layover one time and there was Popeyes all over that bitch. Def so good. Now if would could get some Checkers and Popeyes on the east coast we would be in bussiness
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Kevin at the 92 ASC looked pretty good. Its spelt escilene I beleive and they both would have been using everything under the sun but who cares. No one knows exactly what anyone else is using except Jocelyn Pelletier - who is most def. natural. :-X
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You are from Atlanta
Nope...Las Vegas were it's currently sunny and in the mid 60's 8) 8) 8)
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Flex, Levrone and Coleman....they all looked amazing at that show. How do you pick a winner????
One thing is for sure, Milos could sit inside coleman and take a nap....he looks like a little kid next to him.
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Flex, baby! 8)
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Nope...Las Vegas were it's currently sunny and in the mid 60's 8) 8) 8)
Used to date a girl from that scoresss out there
now im back on the east cold frekin coast
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Kevin at the 2001 English Grand Prix:
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/englishgrandprix2001/91.JPG)
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/englishgrandprix2001/93.JPG)
Flex at the 2003 Ironman (his final performance):
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ironmanpro2003/33.JPG)
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ironmanpro2003/35.JPG)
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kevin circa 93,93,94 he had an outstang shape and flow. towards the end ohf his career his GH gut ruined his proportions
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Levrone dudes.
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heracles is it true you want kevin to cum in your mouth when your blowing him?
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this thread has been done before and each time the majority of getbiggers went with Mr. Levrone 8)
one of the few times getbiggers actually get something right :)
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kevin circa 93,93,94 he had an outstang shape and flow. towards the end ohf his career his GH gut ruined his proportions
Agree, Kev back in the early nineties was the epitome of mass and aesthetics.
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Agree, Kev back in the early nineties was the epitome of mass and aesthetics.
From the front i agree with you. But the back could've been better.
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Well i dont think he ever had a gut but in later years he wasnt as small around the waist
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kevs delts/arms combo have got to be the best ever! only thing is they dwarf his chest kinda like how lees do just not as bad
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While we're at it:
Ali or Tyson
Kennedy or Clinton
Aerosmith or Stones
Brittney or Jessica
Chicken or Beef ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ali
Clinton
Aerosmith
Jessica (no question about this one)
Beef!!!!
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kevs delts/arms combo have got to be the best ever! only thing is they dwarf his chest kinda like how lees do just not as bad
everybody says this when critiquing him
this is what people should be saying about Flex when critiquing him, not kevin
I just don't see it. Kev doesn't have the biggest chest but I think his chest shape is the best of all time.
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I personally think that Kevin's chest development is under par and thats part of the reason why i will go with Flex Wheeler as the best physique.
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I personally think that Kevin's chest development is under par and thats part of the reason why i will go with Flex Wheeler as the best physique.
Imo, Kev has a better chest. Flex's was too small to match his arms. This is evident when he hits a most muscular.
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kev is stronger on the bench but his chest lags behind the rest of him.. So did flex's but at least it had a nice shape too it along with some crazy striations. If we are talking about character and who deserves to win most.. I think Kevin's record speaks for itself.
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I think Vince G has them both beat.
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Guys check out the video of the ARNOLD CLASSIC 1996. Ive never seen the top 6 look so good. It was just a matter of taste, but Kevin was 1st, Flex 2nd. You could have switched them easily. I think this was the best either of them have ever looked. Size and conditioning accounted for. The rest of the top 6 looked like this. 3rd Paul dillet, 4th Shawn ray, 5th, Vince taylor, 6th, Andreas munzer. Side note *** ( IMO If dillet could pose and had more stage presence) He could have won the show. Cazy physique.
Kevin and Flex were just in there own league when it came to presence on stage.
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flex
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kev is stronger on the bench but his chest lags behind the rest of him.. So did flex's but at least it had a nice shape too it along with some crazy striations. If we are talking about character and who deserves to win most.. I think Kevin's record speaks for itself.
kev destroys him and everybody else on the side chest pose
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kev destroys him and everybody else on the side chest pose
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Sure he destroyes them with his arms and shoulders.. but one pose does not make the show.
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kev destroys him and everybody else on the side chest pose
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look at the 99 english grand prix, flex's side chest is better, he's drier and more striated. The judges got it right that day.
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(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/more%20pics/1999BritishGrandPrix_0089.jpg)
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a picture demonstrating flex's superior structure to kev's
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/more%20pics/1999BritishGrandPrix_0072.jpg)
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just take a look at this picture, just fucking insane
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/1999BritishGrandPrix_0029.jpg)
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this just cant be real.....99 gran prix, coleman at his all-time best
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/1999BritishGrandPrix_0049.jpg)
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Awesome pix gmctrk!! Just proves that Flex had it all!
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While we're at it:
Ali or Tyson
Kennedy or Clinton
Aerosmith or Stones
Brittney or Jessica
Chicken or Beef ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
you have just admitted stupidity with that post shawn.
and my pickis definitley flex.
loved him and his work ethick. hes awesome.
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a picture demonstrating flex's superior structure to kev's
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/more%20pics/1999BritishGrandPrix_0072.jpg)
I think kev has the superior structure
he has then unique combo of powerful and an artistic physique
flex doesn't look powerful
kev destroys him on hams in the side chest pic where I think kev looks better
that's the only pic I've seen where flex comes close to him in side chest
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In their prime...
http://media.putfile.com/1999-English-Grand-Prix
WOW ! great line up I have to give that one to Flex he looked like a fucken cartoon character. But damn they all looked good.
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While we're at it:
Ali or Tyson
Kennedy or Clinton
Aerosmith or Stones
Brittney or Jessica
Chicken or Beef ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ali
Kennedy
Fuck The Stones
I would fuck both Brittney or Jessica
I love chicken and Beef
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I agree with the person who said Kev had the best traps, delt tie in...
Sick!!!
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Comparing Flex to Levrone in the 99 Grand Prix is a mistake.
Levrone was massive and dominant.
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kev never used synthol, case closed.
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game over
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Kevin had better lines.
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So close between these two. Clearly from the pics both at their best were light years ahead of Coleman and Kevin could have taken Dorian in 94.
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The video just proves that Flex was the best bodybuilder! Thx for the download!
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You are from Atlanta
I went to the atlanta in a layover one time and there was Popeyes all over that bitch. Def so good. Now if would could get some Checkers and Popeyes on the east coast we would be in bussiness
Checkers and Popeyes are all over Maryland.
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Levrone vs Flex = Esciclene vs Synthol
By the way the 2nd pic, Wheeler is flexing but his delts look smooth. He was a big lump of oil.
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I think that Flex may have had a more aesthetically pleasing body, but Levrone was closer to being Mr. Olympia.
....how do you figure? Are you basing your answer on the number of runner-up placings in the last 15 years?
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....how do you figure? Are you basing your answer on the number of runner-up placings in the last 15 years?
In other words, I would rather look like Flex, but I think Levrone was closer to what a Mr. Olympia should be (or rather an answer to the mass of Dorian or Ronnie in the judges minds).
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Guys check out the video of the ARNOLD CLASSIC 1996. Ive never seen the top 6 look so good. It was just a matter of taste, but Kevin was 1st, Flex 2nd. You could have switched them easily. I think this was the best either of them have ever looked. Size and conditioning accounted for. The rest of the top 6 looked like this. 3rd Paul dillet, 4th Shawn ray, 5th, Vince taylor, 6th, Andreas munzer. Side note *** ( IMO If dillet could pose and had more stage presence) He could have won the show. Cazy physique.
Kevin and Flex were just in there own league when it came to presence on stage.
One of the best prejudgings ever. When Flex came out for the 1st round--it wasn't even close. He was full & shredded. Flex was called out only twice, while Levrone was called out several times. Levrone seemed to have been holding water, but after each callout--he kept getting harder. By the second round, things looked a whole closer but after the last callout--I wasn't so sure if Flex had this thing won. Now with the Night show, Levrone was dry and after his posing routine--I think that's when he pulled ahead. Like you said, one of the best Arnold's ever.
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I think kev has the superior structure
he has then unique combo of powerful and an artistic physique
flex doesn't look powerful
kev destroys him on hams in the side chest pic where I think kev looks better
that's the only pic I've seen where flex comes close to him in side chest
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In the relaxed poses, there is no way that Kevin's structure looks better than Flex. In just about every show they entered together with the exception of the '91 Nationals & the '00 Olympia--Levrone loses the symmetry round to Flex. The compulsories are a different story.
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kev never used synthol, case closed.
He used Esciclene & he site injected--what's the difference? Synthol is basically the oil in an injectible steroid--but minus the steroid. So the case is now closed.
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both were great
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He used Esciclene & he site injected--what's the difference? Synthol is basically the oil in an injectible steroid--but minus the steroid. So the case is now closed.
i keep seeing escilene pop up. What is it again?
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i keep seeing escilene pop up. What is it again?
The better version of synthol.
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The better version of synthol.
I thought Esicline mimmicked injury, causing inflammation, whereas Synthol was just oil
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I thought Esicline mimmicked injury, causing inflammation, whereas Synthol was just oil
injecting esicline causes local inflamtion and causess the muscle to swell up in size..Effects last for a few day, as the inflamtion subsides.
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i keep seeing escilene pop up. What is it again?
I first saw it on the scene in the mid-80's. It was actually a steroid that was primarily injected into a bodypart. Specifically lagging bodyparts, and the injection would inflame that particular muscle causing a temporary growth. Esiclene was water based. Another big name who used esiclene alot was Fuchs (remember that Flex Mag cover w/Nasser), and he had a cartoon look for awhile. But during the mid to late 90's, esiclene was discontinued. Here comes Synthol. Synthol is oil as we all know & it stays in the muscle but doesn't give the same look as esiclene. The users of esiclene tried to substitute synthol hoping to get the same results. For some, it worked while others it didn't. People on here say Flex looked full of oil, but I think they should look at Fuch's last appearances on stage--and there you will see a physique practically dripping oil.
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I think Injecting oil should be way more illegal than steriods. At least on Roids the muscles are real.
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The simple answer is that neither is better than the other. It just comes down to personal preference. Do you think the ideal physique is Hercules or David.
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Is it really true that esicline is no longer avail? I think it can still be obtained in Europe. Anybody know?
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woa, this is a tough one. in my opinion, in thier primes, they both are in the top 5 best bulders of all time. would have to include shawn ray in that list as well. i would have to pick kev. he won more shows, and came the closest to being mr. o'
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both were great
dam thats an old pic his glutes are amazing for there time :o
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i'm a fan of both (plus Shawn Ray and Richard Jones), but I prefer Levrone's physique over that of Flex's.
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both were great
his chest is clearly underdeveloped compared to his arms and shoulders
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That eiscelene genius.
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woa, this is a tough one. in my opinion, in thier primes, they both are in the top 5 best bulders of all time. would have to include shawn ray in that list as well. i would have to pick kev. he won more shows, and came the closest to being mr. o'
He won more smaller shows. Flex was about money, and won more of the bigger shows, and I believe that both match with same "O" 2nd place finishes. Flex also won more Arnold classics, which paid the same as winning the "O".
There are two pics of Flex by Mitsuru Okabe. Flex is in white background and sitting, the two pics are perfection. One used to be on Flex's website, and the other was in a recent Musclemag. If anyone can find those pics, you'll see how much better Flex is as compared to Kevin. I would definitely want to look like that.
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Both were great bodybuilder's. The only thing Ican say is that from the front Flex was slightly better. But from the back Flex could not match Kevin. Especially in Flex's Glute's wich he never got toatly shreeded. ;D
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I say they are even, neither can really outshine the other by a large enough margin to claim dominance.
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kev destroys him and everybody else on the side chest pose
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Earl if you think that Levrone was better than flex, it doesnt mean that its true.
They both were great. But after seing the videoi must go with flex, from the front they re at the same level. But from the back Flex owns Levrone. So earl please shut the fuck up.
By the way Ronnie kill's them both.
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Earl if you think that Levrone was better than flex, it doesnt mean that its true.
They both were great. But after seing the videoi must go with flex, from the front they re at the same level. But from the back Flex owns Levrone. So earl please shut the f**k up.
By the way Ronnie kill's them both.
no YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP LEVRONE DESTROYS FLEX >:(
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his chest is clearly underdeveloped compared to his arms and shoulders
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Pretty funny coming from a Levrone fan.
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Awesome Video of big kev...
http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/forums/view.php?pg=thebestofkevinlevrone
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wow! crazy back.
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Both were great bodybuilder's. The only thing Ican say is that from the front Flex was slightly better. But from the back Flex could not match Kevin. Especially in Flex's Glute's wich he never got toatly shreeded. ;D
my goodness. Its one thing to be stupid, but this one takes the cake.
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Both were great bodybuilder's. The only thing Ican say is that from the front Flex was slightly better. But from the back Flex could not match Kevin. Especially in Flex's Glute's wich he never got toatly shreeded. ;D
Take a look at the pics above, and in the 1993 Arnold Flex's glutes and Hams were shredded as they were in 1992. Flex's hams and glute tie ties were shredded only at a lighter bodyweight (coincidently it was when he was working with a Mr. Mcneil, I believe his name was). Kev could never match Flex's back detail, but Flex didn't have a wide lat spread.
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both were great
It's a shame Flex had his kidney disease, if not I believe he would have become Mr. Olympia. He never again reached this level of conditioning and it was becuase his kidneys wouldn't let him. So when you see later pictures of flex with "soft hams and glutes" it wasn't his fault, it was simply a genetic problem he couldnt overcome
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Pretty funny coming from a Levrone fan.
it's fact that Flex's arms and shoulders dwarf his chest
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it's fact that Flex's arms and shoulders dwarf his chest
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obviously you don't understand what he is saying. Think irony...
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obviously you don't understand what he is saying. Think irony...
actually i do and he is completely wrong
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actually i do and he is completely wrong
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(http://body.builder.hu/imagebank/starprofile/Kevin_Levrone.jpg)
you were saying?...oh, and don't post a side chest shot of Kev. Even Lee Priest looks like he has a good chest in that pose.
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(http://body.builder.hu/imagebank/starprofile/Kevin_Levrone.jpg)
you were saying?...oh, and don't post a side chest shot of Kev. Even Lee Priest looks like he has a good chest in that pose.
yeah great example you post a pic at his all time worst at the 03 Olympia ::)
Levrone has the best side chest pose
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yeah great example you post a pic at his all time worst at the 03 Olympia ::)
Levrone has the best side chest pose
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god damn. You are denser than a mercury thermometer. Trust me, thats pretty f*cking dense. you just had to bring up the side chest situation. Yes, he has a great side chest, but that still does not detract from the fact that his arms and shoulders overpower his chest. Do you finally understand the irony of this?
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Awesome pix gmctrk!! Just proves that Flex had it all!
100% agree with you GMCtrk & Alexxx. No doubt, both of guys were the best looking pros in the sport in their time symmetry and size wise. However, looking at the photos, Flex had the most complete package out of the two!
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i'm a fan of both (plus Shawn Ray and Richard Jones), but I prefer Levrone's physique over that of Flex's.
Cold, I find it interesting you brought it up. I know this thread about Flex vs. Kevin but I am just curious to see what your thoughts are on Shawn vs. RJ...
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god damn. You are denser than a mercury thermometer. Trust me, thats pretty f*cking dense. you just had to bring up the side chest situation. Yes, he has a great side chest, but that still does not detract from the fact that his arms and shoulders overpower his chest. Do you finally understand the irony of this?
there is no irony you stupid little twat his arms and shoulder don't dwarf his chest ::)
So you're learning about mercury thermometer's in special ed today? How do the kids with normal intelligence treat you? Is life hard?
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there is no irony you stupid little twat his arms and shoulder don't dwarf his chest ::)
So you're learning about mercury thermometer's in special ed today? How do the kids with normal intelligence treat you? Is life hard?
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I included the little explanation in there, because I knew your mircroscopic cranium would not be able to comprehend the analogy. Kevin is a great bodybuilder, but every one has their flaws. It just happens that his arms and shoulders overpower his chest, in this case.
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I included the little explanation in there, because I knew your mircroscopic cranium would not be able to comprehend the analogy. Kevin is a great bodybuilder, but every one has their flaws. It just happens that his arms and shoulders overpower his chest, in this case.
in the pic you posted at his all time worst somewhat ::)
Explain to your bully's tomorrow your extensive knowledge of mercury thermometer's. Maybe they'll get so bored they will leave you alone.
just a tip
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I dont want to start some type of trouble. But me def fniks that these guyys are taken some types of drugs
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Even his face looks less muscular now. He looks like a kid compared to before (his face).
(http://mujweb.cz/sport/galerie/levrone9.jpg)
(http://www.kevinlevrone.net/Images/photos%20from%20kevin/Kev%20Zielon.jpg)
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this just cant be real.....99 gran prix, coleman at his all-time best
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/1999BritishGrandPrix_0049.jpg)
AGREED!!!!
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Why does Ronnie's chest always look flat?