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Title: before and after...
Post by: ergo on March 27, 2015, 04:34:03 PM
40ish 201-203 pounds. 50ish 255 pounds. 40ish TRT 200mg clinic cypionate. 50ish understanding combinations and HGH and periodic insulin manipulation. HIT training and nutrition protocols understood for maximizing conditioned muscle. Everything mentioned is important to get and hold this status...

This pic was taken January this year.
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Post by: ergo on March 27, 2015, 04:36:09 PM
255
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Post by: ergo on March 27, 2015, 05:09:54 PM
test free. hgh, Tren, Mast, NPP 228 pounds... t3 and ECA...
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Post by: tatoo on March 27, 2015, 05:38:58 PM
awesome. any slin at 255? the key is conditioned muscle correct? personally I don't think I ever get lean enough before I try an add size again. 
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Post by: ritch on March 27, 2015, 05:43:35 PM
Good pics! Inspiring.
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Post by: ergo on March 27, 2015, 05:50:11 PM
awesome. any slin at 255? the key is conditioned muscle correct? personally I don't think I ever get lean enough before I try an add size again. 

Yes never more than 20iu's and I have an intra workout drink with 100-150 grams Karbolyn that I drink as I go. After training within an hour you must eat as your going to dip and will require it. Don't get caught with no carbs sugar at that time.
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Post by: ergo on March 27, 2015, 05:54:55 PM
awesome. any slin at 255? the key is conditioned muscle correct? personally I don't think I ever get lean enough before I try an add size again.  

Slin will keep you full but you are not going to get yoked on it unless you are already yoked and then you ease it in this is key for manipulating volume with out pushing water out externally. If your looking for pure size and eating somewhat clean and can handle slin that is how I do it. Pre workout 20iu Intra drink as above...
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Post by: miked96 on March 27, 2015, 05:56:11 PM
Look great!  I follow your food and training posts on BB.  Can you post up your daily diet you used to push your bw up to 255?  
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Post by: ergo on March 27, 2015, 06:15:47 PM
Look great!  I follow your food and training posts on BB.  Can you post up your daily diet you used to push your bw up to 255?  


Breakfast; 5 extra large eggs, 4-6 oz lean ground beef, half an avocado, 8-10 ounces of white rice, large toasted bagel with butter, 8oz juice and rice milk. Next meal 8 ounces or so red meat, 1-2 cups rice, 1 cup cottage cheese, bagel, 1 Chobani yogurt, rice milk. Repeat. Quick power meal Cream of rice with honey, peanut butter and 1 banana 1 cartoon egg whites. The meals other than breakfast are all repeated and I will get up every night around 3am and and do the Cream of rice meal. Also Intra workout carb drink. The key is pushing carbohydrates high and limiting saturated fats. I do not care about sodium at this time just cramming carbs through complex and fructose and honey. Fats are eggs, avocado, peanut butter. This is when pushing the scale up is your priority. This takes an effort. Getting up in the night and eating is key also.
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Post by: ergo on March 27, 2015, 06:17:03 PM
Good pics! Inspiring.

Thanks Ritch. Check out some of my training videos on YouTube search ryan ergo!
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Post by: miked96 on March 27, 2015, 06:22:36 PM

Breakfast; 5 extra large eggs, 4-6 oz lean ground beef, half an avocado, 8-10 ounces of white rice, large toasted bagel with butter, 8oz juice and rice milk. Next meal 8 ounces or so red meat, 1-2 cups rice, 1 cup cottage cheese, bagel, 1 Chobani yogurt, rice milk. Repeat. Quick power meal Cream of rice with honey, peanut butter and 1 banana 1 cartoon egg whites. The meals other than breakfast are all repeated and I will get up every night around 3am and and do the Cream of rice meal. Also Intra workout carb drink. The key is pushing carbohydrates high and limiting saturated fats. I do not care about sodium at this time just cramming carbs through complex and fructose and honey. Fats are eggs, avocado, peanut butter. This is when pushing the scale up is your priority. This takes an effort. Getting up in the night and eating is key also.

Thanks for laying that out.  I started eating the cream of rice with raspberries and egg whites after you suggested it.  Like the training vids also especially the one where you bench 405.  Shows how effective machine work can be.
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Post by: tatoo on March 27, 2015, 06:23:21 PM
Slin will keep you full but you are not going to get yoked on it unless you are already yoked and then you ease it in this is key for manipulating volume with out pushing water out externally. If your looking for pure size and eating somewhat clean and can handle slin that is how I do it. Pre workout 20iu Intra drink as above...


Humalog or r?
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Post by: ergo on March 27, 2015, 06:25:40 PM

Humalog or r?
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r type legal here.
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Post by: spiro on March 27, 2015, 06:32:33 PM
Awesome physique
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Post by: Big Slice on March 27, 2015, 06:32:59 PM
You look great no doubt.If I only had the dedication, life kids work, tend to get in the way.Im doing my 3rd over 50 ' s show in a couple months, added gh about 4 months ago, will see.much respect I know how hard it is for me, and you got it dialed.
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Post by: ergo on March 27, 2015, 06:43:19 PM
Awesome physique


Thanks. Let me know how I can help you if any....
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Post by: ergo on March 27, 2015, 06:46:00 PM
You look great no doubt.If I only had the dedication, life kids work, tend to get in the way.Im doing my 3rd over 50 ' s show in a couple months, added gh about 4 months ago, will see.much respect I know how hard it is for me, and you got it dialed.


Congratulations on achieving what many never do and that is competing. Hgh will make a huge difference. Be patient with it. Thanks. want to talk shop feel free anytime with me.
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Post by: Jizmo on March 28, 2015, 12:45:47 AM
solid poster with the physique to back it up...
 looking forward to every bit of information that comes from you
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Post by: whitewidow on March 28, 2015, 05:16:02 AM
solid poster with the physique to back it up...
 looking forward to every bit of information that comes from you

he is a good guy. I asked my boss if he knew him and he said he is a great stand-up guy and my boss dosn't like everybody.
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Post by: Halki on March 28, 2015, 07:42:03 AM
Very nice! :-) It's fking amazing to see people 40-50 years old with physique like that :-)

How old were You when You start use AAS? :-)
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Post by: Thong Maniac on March 28, 2015, 08:35:38 AM

Breakfast; 5 extra large eggs, 4-6 oz lean ground beef, half an avocado, 8-10 ounces of white rice, large toasted bagel with butter, 8oz juice and rice milk. Next meal 8 ounces or so red meat, 1-2 cups rice, 1 cup cottage cheese, bagel, 1 Chobani yogurt, rice milk. Repeat. Quick power meal Cream of rice with honey, peanut butter and 1 banana 1 cartoon egg whites. The meals other than breakfast are all repeated and I will get up every night around 3am and and do the Cream of rice meal. Also Intra workout carb drink. The key is pushing carbohydrates high and limiting saturated fats. I do not care about sodium at this time just cramming carbs through complex and fructose and honey. Fats are eggs, avocado, peanut butter. This is when pushing the scale up is your priority. This takes an effort. Getting up in the night and eating is key also.

So how do you feel about keto dieting/bulking?

Obviously the amount of carbs you utilize ONLY works for someone using GH and insulin right? I would be a fat mess eating that much
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Post by: ergo on March 28, 2015, 11:45:08 AM
Very nice! :-) It's fking amazing to see people 40-50 years old with physique like that :-)

How old were You when You start use AAS? :-)

26 years old. Trained from 18 -26 naturally. 1st cycle 100mg Syntex AD. No internet so no big push about the truth and no big cycle propaganda to influence...
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Post by: _aj_ on March 29, 2015, 08:24:44 AM
Impressive. Gives us old guys something to aspire to/hope for.
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Post by: millineum man on March 29, 2015, 11:39:32 PM
Very impressive, sir!
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Post by: TheGrinch on March 30, 2015, 09:10:42 AM
amazing...


if I ate like that I would be 300lbs of lard by next week
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Post by: Tedim on March 30, 2015, 09:39:00 AM
solid at 228....great look

Height?
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Post by: ergo on March 30, 2015, 10:49:47 AM
solid at 228....great look

Height?



6' 0"
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Post by: Weedlejuice on March 30, 2015, 12:30:51 PM

Breakfast; 5 extra large eggs, 4-6 oz lean ground beef, half an avocado, 8-10 ounces of white rice, large toasted bagel with butter, 8oz juice and rice milk. Next meal 8 ounces or so red meat, 1-2 cups rice, 1 cup cottage cheese, bagel, 1 Chobani yogurt, rice milk. Repeat. Quick power meal Cream of rice with honey, peanut butter and 1 banana 1 cartoon egg whites. The meals other than breakfast are all repeated and I will get up every night around 3am and and do the Cream of rice meal. Also Intra workout carb drink. The key is pushing carbohydrates high and limiting saturated fats. I do not care about sodium at this time just cramming carbs through complex and fructose and honey. Fats are eggs, avocado, peanut butter. This is when pushing the scale up is your priority. This takes an effort. Getting up in the night and eating is key also.

any specific ratio for your fats?

I've literally started to put weight back on with the majority of my calories being made up of carb's and i'm glad to see someone with the goods following a similar protocol.

using only the daily requirement of fats for someone my height and weight to function normally with probably only 1/5 to a quarter of that total being made up of saturated fats.

would be interested to hear your opinion on daily calorie intake as well as your thought's on which kinds of gear and dosages affect those calorie totals in terms of the mass you're actually putting on be it fat or lean tissue.

thank's in advance
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Post by: Aflo on March 31, 2015, 03:49:52 AM
How do your workouts look? Looking beast bro
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Post by: Jizmo on March 31, 2015, 07:14:24 AM
How do your workouts look? Looking beast bro
read his threads  ::)
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Post by: njflex on March 31, 2015, 07:58:19 AM
VERY IMPRESSIVE,COLOR SHOTS ARE GREAT...
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Post by: TheGrinch on March 31, 2015, 09:00:09 AM

Breakfast; 5 extra large eggs, 4-6 oz lean ground beef, half an avocado, 8-10 ounces of white rice, large toasted bagel with butter, 8oz juice and rice milk. Next meal 8 ounces or so red meat, 1-2 cups rice, 1 cup cottage cheese, bagel, 1 Chobani yogurt, rice milk. Repeat. Quick power meal Cream of rice with honey, peanut butter and 1 banana 1 cartoon egg whites. The meals other than breakfast are all repeated and I will get up every night around 3am and and do the Cream of rice meal. Also Intra workout carb drink. The key is pushing carbohydrates high and limiting saturated fats. I do not care about sodium at this time just cramming carbs through complex and fructose and honey. Fats are eggs, avocado, peanut butter. This is when pushing the scale up is your priority. This takes an effort. Getting up in the night and eating is key also.

great stuff thanks!!!


so you are not going for high protein or even counting protein for that matter? No shakes, no protein meals.. just pushing carbs as much as possible? Are you able to do that because of all the insulin?

I would imagine if you werent taking insulin you would cut back the carbs dramatically?


Congrats on your hard work and amazing physique
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Post by: Jizmo on March 31, 2015, 11:58:01 AM
great stuff thanks!!!


so you are not going for high protein or even counting protein for that matter? No shakes, no protein meals.. just pushing carbs as much as possible? Are you able to do that because of all the insulin?

I would imagine if you werent taking insulin you would cut back the carbs dramatically?


Congrats on your hard work and amazing physique
umm what? just the TWO meals he listed are already over 150g protein
if he eats just 5 times a day hes at 400g protein easily ::)

and hes able to push the carbs that high because of the GH+slin combo. you can eat a shitton of carbs on GH alone too though, but with slin the size gains are much superior
Title: Re: before and after...
Post by: Tedim on March 31, 2015, 01:18:59 PM
test free. hgh, Tren, Mast, NPP 228 pounds... t3 and ECA...

why cut out the test?
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Post by: Jizmo on March 31, 2015, 01:28:20 PM
why cut out the test?
only reason to ever cut out test is temporarily for the look
so thats gonna be it
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Post by: Tedim on March 31, 2015, 01:29:26 PM
only reason to ever cut out test is temporarily for the look
so thats gonna be it

expound please
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Post by: Thong Maniac on March 31, 2015, 01:36:47 PM
only reason to ever cut out test is temporarily for the look
so thats gonna be it

What do u mean
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Post by: Jizmo on March 31, 2015, 01:39:05 PM
well some people say youre drier and crispier with no test, even more than with test+AI

test = estrogen = water retention

many people cut out test a week or two before shows too

personally i never noticed a difference though, its all in the diet for me
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Post by: goku on March 31, 2015, 05:16:21 PM
looking great as always ergo! hope you've been well (def look it!)
no more pineapple juice in the diet? lol
how much gh you using mate? pharma as usual i assume?