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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Army of One on April 01, 2015, 07:49:50 PM
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From south Korean nerd to south Korean popstar/bruce lee hybrid
(http://i.imgur.com/Qf7O7.jpg)
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Not a bad physique at all.
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Not bad at all for 90 days. Great job wang!
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Looks like he jumped on a little gear in the process
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Not bad at all for 90 days. Great job wang!
Asian diets are generally high carb. So going keto will produce great results quickly. Bruce Lee would go extremely low carb to get in shape for movies. At least he did until the year before he died, when he also went extremely low fat too. You live well without carbs, but you truly need fats in your diet to be healthy.
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Skinny fat to just plain skinny = gear now? C'mon Coach
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Skinny fat to just plain skinny = gear now? C'mon Coach
He won't admit low carb is the way to diet for muscle definition.
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Skinny fat to just plain skinny = gear now? C'mon Coach
Joe is just revealing he'd be a tiny tit without his life long addiction to steroids
I wonder if he lies to those unfortunate young kids who he "coaches" when they ask about steroids
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Easily done in 12 weeks with some determination, no gear necessary. But is that the same guy? Can't really tell.
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Easily done in 12 weeks with some determination, no gear necessary. But is that the same guy? Can't really tell.
Same person, big long reddit post with more pics and lots of feedback from him
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Skinny fat to just plain skinny = gear now? C'mon Coach
Not a lot of course. But he put on some muscle within that 90 days. Hard not to make that kind of transformation without something. .
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Joe is just revealing he'd be a tiny tit without his life long addiction to steroids
I wonder if he lies to those unfortunate young kids who he "coaches" when they ask about steroids
Do you realize how quick I would absolutely bury you in a training session....do you?
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I new a kid whose coach was giving him Dbol and telling him they were vitamins. The coach was also his dad. True story.
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Do you realize how quick I would absolutely bury you in a training session....do you?
Dunno coach, if that session involved any cardio, your potato head would probably explode...
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Not a lot of course. But he put on some muscle within that 90 days. Hard not to make that kind of transformation without something. .
You must be trolling.
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You must be trolling.
Nope
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Seen this done a million times, YAWN...
Will not look big in shirt, does not matter, is still considered newbie, lots more to be gained natty.
Post him up when he becomes impressive please.
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Skinny fat to just plain skinny = gear now? C'mon Coach
Yes. Coach is right.
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No look at his calves before and after.. He has not put on muscle. Just stripped off his fat to reveal abs.
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No look at his calves before and after.. He has not put on muscle. Just stripped off his fat to reveal abs.
That's the thing with long-term keto; you can't expect notable muscle gains, and I've never seen a study that showed the opposite.
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That's the thing with long-term keto; you can't expect notable muscle gains, and I've never seen a study that showed the opposite.
Exactly. Coach said he was on aas which is false.
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Looks like he jumped on a little gear in the process
No he didn't. This is typical body fat loss on a serious keto diet. Now you can see his muscle definition, Had he upped the fat and protein intake, and did a high rep lifting routine, he have put on some real muscle mass in the same time period.
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No he didn't. This is typical body fat loss on a serious keto diet. Now you can see his muscle definition, Had he upped the fat and protein intake, and did a high rep lifting routine, he have put on some real muscle mass in the same time period.
He said on day 1 he was deadlifitng the bar for 5x5, never lifted before, day 90 5x5 for 315
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He said on day 1 he was deadlifitng the bar for 5x5, never lifted before, day 90 5x5 for 315
But that won't do him any good for natural anabolic effect, without eating big, with fats and proteins.
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He won't admit low carb is the way to diet for muscle definition.
By not catering to perverts, the business will attract many repeat customers, who don't want be subjected to having perverts anywhere near them. In the same vein, not hiring perverts, especially where you are serving food, will attract customers, who don't want perverts touching their food.
It comes down to freedom of choice. As in your basic human right, as a free man, to discriminate against the people you don't want to deal with.
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Lol
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Lol
He knows that quoting me, will always be way better, than anything original that he could ever post here. It's a public service he's performing. He deserves our thanks.
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Do you realize how quick I would absolutely bury you in a training session....do you?
whatever you say shorty
I couldn't give a rats ass
you sound like a profoundly insecure little man-child
so do you lie to those kids about your life long addiction to steroids or not
you're a christian so I assume the bearing false witness thing would be an issue
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He knows that quoting me, will always be way better, than anything original that he could ever post here. It's a public service he's performing. He deserves our thanks.
Yes Erik C, that's it. I'm jealous of your intelligence.
The negroids and queers will be eliminated with science. They won't know what hit them. They'll be concerned only for themselves, and won't notice that others of their ilk are dying too. Until it is too late for them to do anything about it, and they'll all be gone, forever.
The future looks bright for real human beings!
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why does everyone that does a keto diet look like they could land a role in Schindlers list?
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Yes Erik C, that's it. I'm jealous of your intelligence.
Glad to see you admit that. It must have been difficult for you to admit. Recognizing and overcoming ones weaknesses, is the key to personal empowerment. GL to you, with your internal struggles.
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Women love that type of physique....
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Seen this done a million times, YAWN...
Outed for admitting looking at a million shirtless asain men
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Women love that type of physique....
So True! However, that doesn't seem to be a big consideration, for most GetBiggers. Wonder why?
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Some Women love that type of physique....
FIXED ;D
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So True! However, that doesn't seem to be a big consideration, for most GetBiggers. Wonder why?
It's only gay if you want it to be ;D
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Exactly. Coach said he was on aas which is false.
I agree Coach is wrong
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The guy didn't add muscle really, just got lean. He's got a nice physique. Maybe he doesn't want to look like a bodybuilder...shockingly enough, most people dont. Whats this crap about being on steroids?! Some of you have been warped by staring at muscular men in thongs way too much ;D
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The guy didn't add muscle really, just got lean. He's got a nice physique. Maybe he doesn't want to look like a bodybuilder...shockingly enough, most people dont. Whats this crap about being on steroids?!
Some of you have been warped by staring at FAT men in thongs way too much ;D
Fixed!
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I agree Coach is wrong
It's because I'm white isn't it?
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From south Korean nerd to south Korean popstar/bruce lee hybrid
(http://i.imgur.com/Qf7O7.jpg)
What kind of Pop star? Is he some sort of celebrity in S. Korea?
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Okinawa people eat carbs 3 x per day & live much longer than us :-\, regarding to them never eat too much.
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Nazi concentration camp diet is still superior :D
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What kind of Pop star? Is he some sort of celebrity in S. Korea?
No, but they all have a similar look to the right image
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On reddit did he talk about how many calories per day and if he had cheat/refeed days?
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It's because I'm white isn't it?
No its because you're wrong
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No look at his calves before and after.. He has not put on muscle. Just stripped off his fat to reveal abs.
But even many competitive bodybuilders have legs that often look like they've never been trained.
The guy looks good, but just looking at the rest of his physique aside from his legs, it's clear he put on muscle. He had manboobs before and his chest is now muscular and well defined, along with his shoulders. It wasn't just peeling back fat. To put on that much muscle while losing weight in such an extreme calorie deficit seems unusual.
Honestly, I'm not entirely convinced it's the same guy, but if it is, it's not that crazy to speculate he's using some sort of gear.
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Keto should only be used for natural guys. Keto and tren is the fast track to getting flat stringy and looking like shit
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But even many competitive bodybuilders have legs that often look like they've never been trained.
The guy looks good, but just looking at the rest of his physique aside from his legs, it's clear he put on muscle. He had manboobs before and his chest is now muscular and well defined, along with his shoulders. It wasn't just peeling back fat. To put on that much muscle while losing weight in such an extreme calorie deficit seems unusual.
Honestly, I'm not entirely convinced it's the same guy, but if it is, it's not that crazy to speculate he's using some sort of gear.
No juice needed there. The moobs were fat that was covering his chest, so you couldn't see his chest muscles before. Same with the spare tire that was hiding his abs before. Extremely low carb (not low cal) keto diet, will give you those exact results, if you're doing it seriously.
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No juice needed there. The moobs were fat that was covering his chest, so you couldn't see his chest muscles before. Same with the spare tire that was hiding his abs before. Extremely low carb (not low cal) keto diet, will give you those exact results, if you're doing it seriously.
Nah, chest and abs aren't the same. Losing fat is 90% of the battle with abs. You don't lose fat to reveal a good chest. You still have to build muscle for a good chest and shoulders.
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Nah, chest and abs aren't the same. Losing fat is 90% of the battle with abs. You don't lose fat to reveal a good chest. You still have to build muscle for a good chest and shoulders.
You do, if your chest is covered in fat, as his was. Losing body fat, is necessary for seeing muscle definition all over the body. He lost 30 to 35 pounds of all body fat, as a keto diet preserves muscle tissue. So, losing that much body fat is definitely going to reveal some previously invisible muscles.
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You do, if your chest is covered in fat, as his was. Losing body fat, is necessary for seeing muscle definition all over the body. He lost 30 to 35 pounds of all body fat, as a keto diet preserves muscle tissue. So, losing that much body fat is definitely going to reveal some previously invisible muscles.
Bro, c'mon. All you have to do is google "keto transformations" and see that most don't result in chests changing that drastically. We're not talking about preserving muscle. We're talking about building a significant amount of new muscle.
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This is the kid from "Twilight". The right pic is after he went on a strict training regiment to put on muscle. He reportedly went from 140 to 170 between the two pics. Let's pretend him being in Hollywood doesn't increase the likelihood that he used steroids to accomplish this. Compare his chest to the guy in OP.
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Bro, c'mon. All you have to do is google "keto transformations" and see that most don't result in chests changing that drastically. We're not talking about preserving muscle. We're talking about building a significant amount of new muscle.
But the OP didn't put on a bunch of muscle. He lost weight, by losing body fat. In the before picture, you can't see muscle anywhere as he was carrying so much body fat, so how do you decide that he gained muscle, in the after picture, when you can't see any muscle in the before picture, to compare it to?
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This is the kid from "Twilight". The right pic is after he went on a strict training regiment to put on muscle. He reportedly went from 140 to 170 between the two pics. Let's pretend him being in Hollywood doesn't increase the likelihood that he used steroids to accomplish this. Compare his chest to the guy in OP.
This kid gained weight. The kid in the OP lost weight. And of course in Hollywood, its all retouched photos anyway.
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Asian diets are generally high carb. So going keto will produce great results quickly. Bruce Lee would go extremely low carb to get in shape for movies. At least he did until the year before he died, when he also went extremely low fat too. You live well without carbs, but you truly need fats in your diet to be healthy.
How did you find out about what kind of diet Bruce Lee followed. I was a huge fan of his and use to watch him on TV during his Green Hornet days. I also followed him in all the mags primarily Black Belt. I read a ton of his biographies and the only thing I remember unusual about his diet was that he drank beef blood for a while. He also complained about not getting enough food and especially meat while filming in China ("Fist of Fury" and "The Chinese Connection".
I would appreciate greatly if you could provide a link to any and all information regarding Bruce Lee's diet. I know he subscribe to Weider's Muscle and Fitness with he was well informed as to the world of bodybuilding.
BTW, as far as I could tell and what was said about him was that Lee was always lean and in shape. According to Dan Inosanto's who I know personally and had trained with for years in the 1990s Bruce did at one point "bulk up" to 150-155 pounds but that was temporary and he did not like the extra weight. He held steady at 135 lbs and didn't have to "get in shape" for a movie.
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But the OP didn't put on a bunch of muscle. He lost weight, by losing body fat. In the before picture, you can't see muscle anywhere as he was carrying so much body fat, so how do you decide that he gained muscle, in the after picture, when you can't see any muscle in the before picture, to compare it to?
The chest in the after pic is clearly larger and more muscular than the before pic. The inner chest in the first pic is flat as a board, while there is crevice in the after pic.
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This kid gained weight. The kid in the OP lost weight. And of course in Hollywood, its all retouched photos anyway.
That is the point. The pics compare favorable with someone who went on a mass BUILDING diet.
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How did you find out about what kind of diet Bruce Lee followed. I was a huge fan of his and use to watch him on TV during his Green Hornet days. I also followed him in all the mags primarily Black Belt. I read a ton of his biographies and the only thing I remember unusual about his diet was that he drank beef blood for a while. He also complained about not getting enough food and especially meat while filming in China ("Fist of Fury" and "The Chinese Connection".
I would appreciate greatly if you could provide a link to any and all information regarding Bruce Lee's diet. I know he subscribe to Weider's Muscle and Fitness with he was well informed as to the world of bodybuilding.
BTW, as far as I could tell and what was said about him was that Lee was always lean and in shape. According to Dan Inosanto's who I know personally and had trained with for years in the 1990s Bruce did at one point "bulk up" to 150-155 pounds but that was temporary and he did not like the extra weight. He held steady at 135 lbs and didn't have to "get in shape" for a movie.
THE ART OF EXPRESSING THE HUMAN BODY. Just took a quick look at that book here. See photo page 20, where he has definition, then see photos on page 39, where he has no definition. Stayed steady at 135#, not really. Indeed I remember reading that he was up to 168# at one point between movies. Don't have time right now to go through all my Bruce Lee material for you.
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That is the point. The pics compare favorable with someone who went on a mass BUILDING diet.
I don't see that at all. It's just a guy that lost a lot of body fat, and thereby gained a lot of visible muscle definition, because of the body fat loss. You can build a lot muscle on a keto diet, and he was clearly doing some weight training, but really what you see is mostly the result of body fat loss.
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THE ART OF EXPRESSING THE HUMAN BODY. Just took a quick look at that book here. See photo page 20, where he has definition, then see photos on page 39, where he has no definition. Stayed steady at 135#, not really. Indeed I remember reading that he was up to 168# at one point between movies. Don't have time right now to go through all my Bruce Lee material for you.
Interested primarily in the type of diet he followed and if he indulged in a low carb diet to get lean (where most would consider him already skinny). I did mention he "bulked up" briefly but for the most part stayed pretty much the same weight. This was also confirmed by Inosantos. Lee was not a bodybuilder and did not experience the fluctuations in weight that bodybuilders experience. Like most people, his weight held pretty steady.
I will try to track down the book you mentioned.
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Interested primarily in the type of diet he followed and if he indulged in a low carb diet to get lean (where most would consider him already skinny). I did mention he "bulked up" briefly but for the most part stayed pretty much the same weight. This was also confirmed by Inosantos. Lee was not a bodybuilder and did not experience the fluctuations in weight that bodybuilders experience. Like most people, his weight held pretty steady.
I will try to track down the book you mentioned.
If you read any books about Lee, then it's hard to believe you missed that one, since it's probably the best known book about Lee. Though the book is poorly written, John Little the author did have access to Bruce Lee's library and papers, and there a lot of quotes from them. Not enough of course. Lee did do weight training, and low carb diet was used by bodybuilders in the late sixties/early seventies to get cut for contests. He knew that. He also jumped on the low fat diet too, that started get promoted by the establishment at the time, in the months before he died.
He loved eating carbs, mostly rice and pasta, and he knew they were fattening, and called carbs empty calories. And he knew getting them out of his diet, to look cut in movies, worked. Lee was an actor. even was in movies as a kid. So, he knew that you look big on the movie screen, even if you're not really big, but you only look good and cut, if you are looking good and cut.
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If you read any books about Lee, then it's hard to believe you missed that one, since it's probably the best known book about Lee. Though the book is poorly written, John Little the author did have access to Bruce Lee's library and papers, and there a lot of quotes from them. Not enough of course. Lee did do weight training, and low carb diet was used by bodybuilders in the late sixties/early seventies to get cut for contests. He knew that. He also jumped on the low fat diet too, that started get promoted by the establishment at the time, in the months before he died.
He loved eating carbs, mostly rice and pasta, and he knew they were fattening, and called carbs empty calories. And he knew getting them out of his diet, to look cut in movies, worked. Lee was an actor. even was in movies as a kid. So, he knew that you look big on the movie screen, even if you're not really big, but you only look good and cut, if you are looking good and cut.
I already said I read biographies about Lee. You seem a little bit touchy. I wasn't doubting you I was seeking more info and source that specifically states Lee followed a low carb diet. And carbs are not fattening. What makes you think Lee believe that? Asian diets, and most third world Asian countries for that matter, are high in carbs.
By all first hand accounts, Bruce was a ravenous eater and was hardly concerned about dieting because he was so active and already so lean. When I say first hand experience I am talking about my years seeing, training and speaking with Inosantos almost daily and training with one of his original students here in Hawaii name James Demile when I was 16 years old in the mid 1970s just after Lee's death.
His challenge making his early films was not cutting weight for his movies but getting enough food and meat filming in a third world country. He said this specifically in a letter published by Linda Lee.
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I already said I read biographies about Lee. You seem a little bit touchy. I wasn't doubting you I was seeking more info and source that specifically states Lee followed a low carb diet. And carbs are not fattening. What makes you think Lee believe that? Asian diets, and most third world Asian countries for that matter, are high in carbs.
By all first hand accounts, Bruce was a ravenous eater and was hardly concerned about dieting because he was so active and already so lean. When I say first hand experience I am talking about my years seeing, training and speaking with Inosantos almost daily and training with one of his original students here in Hawaii name James Demile when I was 16 years old in the mid 1970s just after Lee's death.
His challenge making his early films was not cutting weight for his movies but getting enough food and meat filming in a third world country. He said this specifically in a letter published by Linda Lee.
"And carbs aren't fattening." OK, believe what you want. You obviously won't believe me.
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From everything I read about Bruce Lee he used full body routines when he lifted and never a split. He was also a big fan of running. Lew Alcindor (Kareem Abdul-Jabbar) use to train with Bruce in Martial Arts and he said they use to go for 5 mile runs.
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From everything I read about Bruce Lee he used full body routines when he lifted and never a split. He was also a big fan of running. Lew Alcindor (Kareem Abdul-Jabbar) use to train with Bruce in Martial Arts and he said they use to go for 5 mile runs.
Bruce Lee weight trained for strength, not size, so no splits, nor isolation moves. Did isometrics like crazy, flexing, muscle control, and isokinetics. Tried to work everything in, that he thought could give him speed, endurance, and strength. As for running, he did sprinting, not long distance running. He didn't want to burn muscle tissue. So he would travel a long distance, but was not distance running per se. He'd start off at a slow pace for warm up, break into a sprint, for a short distance of course, slow to a walk, jog backwards, high stepping at an easy pace, lunge walk, cross over walk, plie lunge walk, and back to full tilt sprinting throughout the "run" course. With Kareem's stride, him running with Bruce Lee, would have been something to see!
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This is the kid from "Twilight". The right pic is after he went on a strict training regiment to put on muscle. He reportedly went from 140 to 170 between the two pics. Let's pretend him being in Hollywood doesn't increase the likelihood that he used steroids to accomplish this. Compare his chest to the guy in OP.
Both those pics are shopped.
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Both those pics are shopped.
Brutal spray paint abs on the twilight fag too. You can see it down by his love handles
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"And carbs aren't fattening." OK, believe what you want. You obviously won't believe me.
Carbs = 4 calories/gram
Protein = 4 calories/gram
Fat = 9 calories/gram
Asian diets are very carb heavy yet they are predominately skinny. Americans eat more protein than any other country on the planet and one out of three are fatties.
Eating too much is fattening.
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You do, if your chest is covered in fat, as his was. Losing body fat, is necessary for seeing muscle definition all over the body. He lost 30 to 35 pounds of all body fat, as a keto diet preserves muscle tissue. So, losing that much body fat is definitely going to reveal some previously invisible muscles.
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Interested primarily in the type of diet he followed and if he indulged in a low carb diet to get lean (where most would consider him already skinny). I did mention he "bulked up" briefly but for the most part stayed pretty much the same weight. This was also confirmed by Inosantos. Lee was not a bodybuilder and did not experience the fluctuations in weight that bodybuilders experience. Like most people, his weight held pretty steady.
I will try to track down the book you mentioned.
Pell:
I was also a HUGE Bruce Lee mark as a teenager. I remember reading that he used an electric juicer a lot, but I never got the specifics for what went in the concoctions. Interesting note about the beef blood; I never knew that.
As for training, I understand he had some equipment custom designed and built for his own personal use. Did Dan's family end up with any of those pieces?
Also, was Dan teaching Jeet Kune Do, Escrima/Arnis, or both at the time?
There is supposedly more comprehensive footage of Bruce at Ed Parker's convention. The most commonly seen snippets are of him performing his two-finger push-ups and one-inch punch. I'd love to see what else there may be.
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Carbs = 4 calories/gram
Protein = 4 calories/gram
Fat = 9 calories/gram
Asian diets are very carb heavy yet they are predominately skinny. Americans eat more protein than any other country on the planet and one out of three are fatties.
Eating too much is fattening
Calories in/calories out is a myth, unscientific, and therefore untrue. It's eating carb calories, that makes you fat.
Asian diets are very high carb, and most Asians can't even afford to eat much of that lousy diet. For survival, their bodies hoard body fat. That's why you never see, a great set of abs there. Even those skinny Asian's have body fat covering their abs. Same as anyone else, with "invisible" abs, from eating a high carb diet
There's no visible muscle definition in most Asians, certainly not in Bruce Lee's time. Compare the physiques of former Mr. Hong Kong, Bolo Yeung, with his high carb Asian diet "cut," and low carb diet, cut for the movies, Bruce Lee, at 1:34 in the clip. LOL!
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Calories in/calories out is a myth, unscientific, and therefore untrue. It's eating carb calories, that makes you fat.
Asian diets are very high carb, and most Asians can't even afford to eat much of that lousy diet. For survival, their bodies hoard body fat. That's why you never see, a great set of abs there. Even those skinny Asian's have body fat covering their abs. Same as anyone else, with "invisible" abs, from eating a high carb diet
There's no visible muscle definition in most Asians, certainly not in Bruce Lee's time. Compare the physiques of former Mr. Hong Kong, Bolo Yeung, with his high carb Asian diet "cut," and low carb diet, cut for the movies, Bruce Lee, at 1:34 in the clip. LOL!
What is your theory on not cutting or maintaining, but "bulking" and minimising fat gain? surely higher carbs must be essential as insulin is so anabolic?
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What is your theory on not cutting or maintaining, but "bulking" and minimising fat gain? surely higher carbs must be essential as insulin is so anabolic?
Insulin is so anabolic? It's anabolic in producing more body fat! That's why "bulking" by eating high carb diets produces fat slobs, and no low BF% guys, such as Bruce Lee in his movies. High carb diet clearly doesn't minimize fat gain.
Anabolic, as it pertains to the body, doesn't only mean just building muscle tissue. It means growing the whole body, bones, muscle, FAT, etc. It's just another case of the industry, using scientific terminology incorrectly, same as the term "calories" is used incorrectly, as it supposedly relates to diet.
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Insulin is so anabolic? It's anabolic in producing more body fat! That's why "bulking" by eating high carb diets produces fat slobs, and no low BF% guys, such as Bruce Lee in his movies. High carb diet clearly doesn't minimize fat gain.
Anabolic, as it pertains to the body, doesn't only mean just building muscle tissue. It means growing the whole body, bones, muscle, FAT, etc. It's just another case of the industry, using scientific terminology incorrectly, same as the term "calories" is used incorrectly, as it supposedly relates to diet.
LOL, insulin is one of the body's most anabolic hormones, that's just a fact. Sure, overfeed the carbs and you become fat, that's also a fact.
For fuck's sake, you're on a bodybuilding forum and you want to look like a skinny rat like Bruce Lee, who's metabolism was fucked up by drugs? Fucking LOL ::)
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Insulin is so anabolic? It's anabolic in producing more body fat! That's why "bulking" by eating high carb diets produces fat slobs, and no low BF% guys, such as Bruce Lee in his movies. High carb diet clearly doesn't minimize fat gain.
Anabolic, as it pertains to the body, doesn't only mean just building muscle tissue. It means growing the whole body, bones, muscle, FAT, etc. It's just another case of the industry, using scientific terminology incorrectly, same as the term "calories" is used incorrectly, as it supposedly relates to diet.
So how would you add muscle while not adding carbs?
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LOL, insulin is one of the body's most anabolic hormones, that's just a fact. Sure, overfeed the carbs and you become fat, that's also a fact.
For fuck's sake, you're on a bodybuilding forum and you want to look like a skinny rat like Bruce Lee, who's metabolism was fucked up by drugs? Fucking LOL ::)
Did you read what I posted? Did you read the OP, or the rest of the thread? It's about a chubby Asian who went low carb, and got rid of his body fat, and you could then see his body's muscle structure. Some numbskull, alleged bodybuilders thought that it was impossible to accomplish such a feat as being slim and lean muscled, at 135#, without PEDs!
Insulin is most anabolic hormone in the body, for turning carbohydrates into body fat, not into muscle tissue. That's the real fact.
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So how would you add muscle while not adding carbs?
You eat fat and protein, because those are what muscle tissue is really made out of, not carbs.
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Did you read what I posted? Did you read the OP, or the rest of the thread? It's about a chubby Asian who went low carb, and got rid of his body fat, and you could then see his body's muscle structure. Some numbskull, alleged bodybuilders thought that it was impossible to accomplish such a feat as being slim and lean muscled, at 135#, without PEDs!
Insulin is most anabolic hormone in the body, for turning carbohydrates into body fat, not into muscle tissue. That's the real fact.
In fact, I responded to your message, so what the OP wrote is irrelevant here (yes, I've read it). Another fact: we simply don't know if the Asian was a nattie or not, and who cares? Right, nattienazis like you do.
A 'fact'? LOL, maybe you should troll-edit the Wiki lemma about insulin. It states:
"It regulates the metabolism of carbohydrates and fats by promoting the absorption of glucose from the blood to skeletal muscles and fat tissue and by causing fat to be stored rather than used for energy. " - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin
But yeah, you prob have more knowledge than those hundreds of people behind this lemma ::)
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In fact, I responded on your message, so what the OP wrote is irrelevant here (yes, I've read it). Another fact: we simply don't know if the Asian was a nattie or not, and who cares? Right, nattienazis like you do.
A 'fact'? LOL, maybe you should troll-edit the Wiki lemma about insulin. It states:
"It regulates the metabolism of carbohydrates and fats by promoting the absorption of glucose from the blood to skeletal muscles and fat tissue and by causing fat to be stored rather than used for energy. " - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin
But yeah, you prob have more knowledge than those hundreds of people behind this lemma ::)
I would not discuss it with him. He knows it all. A kid in his bedroom ::)
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What kind of Pop star? Is he some sort of celebrity in S. Korea?
Shit call , K-Pop :P
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Carbs = 4 calories/gram
Protein = 4 calories/gram
Fat = 9 calories/gram
Asian diets are very carb heavy yet they are predominately skinny. Americans eat more protein than any other country on the planet and one out of three are fatties.
Eating too much is fattening.
Medicine in 2015 says: combine sugar & fat = obesity
Pizza + booze = Basile
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fuck sake Guys,,,no Coffee... ??? ::)
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fuck sake Guys,,,no Coffee... ??? ::)
I am in the beach café & 3 espressos so far :P
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12 weeks on Keto, don't think we have to wonder about his natty status
(http://i.imgur.com/zNrhGBz.jpg)
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I would not discuss it with him. He knows it all. A kid in his bedroom ::)
In order to function properly, his brain needs more carbs
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In order to function properly, his brain needs more carbs
yes and even 1 gramm via a cup of Coffee... ;D
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In fact, I responded on your message, so what the OP wrote is irrelevant here (yes, I've read it). Another fact: we simply don't know if the Asian was a nattie or not, and who cares? Right, nattienazis like you do.
A 'fact'? LOL, maybe you should troll-edit the Wiki lemma about insulin. It states:
"It regulates the metabolism of carbohydrates and fats by promoting the absorption of glucose from the blood to skeletal muscles and fat tissue and by causing fat to be stored rather than used for energy. " - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin
But yeah, you prob have more knowledge than those hundreds of people behind this lemma ::)
Anyone with a brain knows that he is nattie. Did you ever look at an anatomy chart? There really are muscles under everyone's fat! All he did was get rid of the fat, so now we can see his muscles clearly. He's now 135#! By no means Mr. Musclebound! Had he gone from a 170# fatso, to a 235# muscle man, then I'd suspect that he had some help, but 135#?
I at least have more knowledge to give a clear description, of the process they were feebly trying to explain. Insulin regulates the metabolism of carbohydrates INTO fats and glycogen, by turning glucose into glycogen, to be stored in skeletal muscle tissue, and any excess glucose to be converted to body fat, because there was to much glucose created from the high amount of carbs consumed, to be used for energy, so the body stored it as body fat. Fixed! You can correct Wikipedia if you choose. I never rely on Wikipedia for any real facts, as any asshole can alter it, to muddy the real facts, for whatever ulterior
reasons that they have.
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Anyone with a brain knows that he is nattie. Did you ever look at an anatomy chart? There really are muscles under everyone's fat! All he did was get rid of the fat, so now we can see his muscles clearly. He's now 135#! By no means Mr. Musclebound! Had he gone from a 170# fatso, to a 235# muscle man, then I'd suspect that he had some help, but 135#?
I at least have more knowledge to give a clear description, of the process they were feebly trying to explain. Insulin regulates the metabolism of carbohydrates INTO fats and glycogen, by turning glucose into glycogen, to be stored in skeletal muscle tissue, and any excess glucose to be converted to body fat, because there was to much glucose created from the high amount of carbs consumed, to be used for energy, so the body stored it as body fat. Fixed! You can correct Wikipedia if you choose. I never rely on Wikipedia for any real facts, as any asshole can alter it, to muddy the real facts, for whatever ulterior
reasons that they have.
Talking of an Anatomy Chart .. you wrote on the ab thread anyone can have an Anatomy chart but not understand it... bite your own bullet dude...
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Talking of an Anatomy Chart .. you wrote on the ab thread anyone can have an Anatomy chart but not understand it... bite your own bullet dude...
And I'm right. That was for my next response, to Drop.
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And I'm right. That was for my next response, to Drop.
OK for a High school kid you are intelligent but that´s it.
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I must have missed the post about coffee??
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Pell:
I was also a HUGE Bruce Lee mark as a teenager. I remember reading that he used an electric juicer a lot, but I never got the specifics for what went in the concoctions. Interesting note about the beef blood; I never knew that.
As for training, I understand he had some equipment custom designed and built for his own personal use. Did Dan's family end up with any of those pieces?
Also, was Dan teaching Jeet Kune Do, Escrima/Arnis, or both at the time?
There is supposedly more comprehensive footage of Bruce at Ed Parker's convention. The most commonly seen snippets are of him performing his two-finger push-ups and one-inch punch. I'd love to see what else there may be.
That beef blood drinking was just a brief phase. I don't think he did it for more than a couple of months. Linda said that he was worried about the sterility but it was probably because it was, well, gross. But it was just to make the point that Bruce was always experimenting and evolving.
Dan was teaching JKD and Escrima/Kali in his dojo in Marina Del Rey but I would see him almost daily at Machado Jiu-Jitsu on Redondo Beach. He along with Richard Bustillio took private lessons with one of the brothers, Roger (pronounced "Hoger"). The Machados are the first cousins to the Gracies and followed Rorion to So Ca when he was bringing BJJ to America. There was Carlos, Roger, Rigan, Jean-Jacques and John.
Chuck Norris also trained there and when he moved to Texas for his TV show he took Carlos with him so he could keep up his training and set up Carlos with his own school and brought BJJ to Texas.
I talked a lot with Dan about Bruce as I was a huge fan and Dan was his closest friend. Not surprisingly, Dan said that Bruce would have loved BJJ. He was already incorporating ground fighting in his movies with the opening scene in Enter the Dragon and with Jabbar in Game of Death.
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That beef blood drinking was just a brief phase. I don't think he did it for more than a couple of months. Linda said that he was worried about the sterility but it was probably because it was, well, gross. But it was just to make the point that Bruce was always experimenting and evolving.
Dan was teaching JKD and Escrima/Kali in his dojo in Marina Del Rey but I would see him almost daily at Machado Jiu-Jitsu on Redondo Beach. He along with Richard Bustillio took private lessons with one of the brothers, Roger (pronounced "Hoger"). The Machados are the first cousins to the Gracies and followed Rorion to So Ca when he was bringing BJJ to America. There was Carlos, Roger, Rigan, Jean-Jacques and John.
Chuck Norris also trained there and when he moved to Texas for his TV show he took Carlos with him so he could keep up his training and set up Carlos with his own school and brought BJJ to Texas.
I talked a lot with Dan about Bruce as I was a huge fan and Dan was his closest friend. Not surprisingly, Dan said that Bruce would have loved BJJ. He was already incorporating ground fighting in his movies with the opening scene in Enter the Dragon and with Jabbar in Game of Death.
I always felt it was stupid throwing in the scene at the start where he flips over the guys after the fight with Samo Hung, and where he backflips against Bob Wall, both of which were stunt doubles as Bruce couldn't do them.
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That beef blood drinking was just a brief phase. I don't think he did it for more than a couple of months. Linda said that he was worried about the sterility but it was probably because it was, well, gross. But it was just to make the point that Bruce was always experimenting and evolving.
Dan was teaching JKD and Escrima/Kali in his dojo in Marina Del Rey but I would see him almost daily at Machado Jiu-Jitsu on Redondo Beach. He along with Richard Bustillio took private lessons with one of the brothers, Roger (pronounced "Hoger"). The Machados are the first cousins to the Gracies and followed Rorion to So Ca when he was bringing BJJ to America. There was Carlos, Roger, Rigan, Jean-Jacques and John.
Chuck Norris also trained there and when he moved to Texas for his TV show he took Carlos with him so he could keep up his training and set up Carlos with his own school and brought BJJ to Texas.
I talked a lot with Dan about Bruce as I was a huge fan and Dan was his closest friend. Not surprisingly, Dan said that Bruce would have loved BJJ. He was already incorporating ground fighting in his movies with the opening scene in Enter the Dragon and with Jabbar in Game of Death.
Good stuff, Pellius!
Thanks!!
When was the last time you saw Dan?
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12 weeks on Keto, don't think we have to wonder about his natty status
(http://i.imgur.com/zNrhGBz.jpg)
Nice transformation, where did all the skin go?
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Sad thing when you read in to Bruce Lee, like Michael Jordan as well, is they were/are both complete assholes
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Sad thing when you read in to Bruce Lee, like Michael Jordan as well, is they were/are both complete assholes
Lack of carbs
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Nice transformation, where did all the skin go?
On a true keto, extremely low carb diet, for body fat loss, your skin won't sag, because the body is getting plenty of fat, along with protein, in the diet. So the body isn't afraid to shed body fat, and doesn't hoard body fat, as you see happening on low calorie, and low fat diets. Since you're not eating carbs, there are no excess carbs being turned into body fat, and you freely use the body fat that you do have, to burn for energy, including the fat in your skin. So your skin naturally shrinks along with the rest of your body fat loss. Just another fine thing about the keto diet.
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On a true keto, extremely low carb diet, for body fat loss, your skin won't sag, because the body is getting plenty of fat, along with protein, in the diet. So the body isn't afraid to shed body fat, and doesn't hoard body fat, as you see happening on low calorie, and low fat diets. Since you're not eating carbs, there are no excess carbs being turned into body fat, and you freely use the body fat that you do have, to burn for energy, including the fat in your skin. So your skin naturally shrinks along with the rest of your body fat loss. Just another fine thing about the keto diet.
The guy didn't have much excess skin. Skin tightens up and where it has stretched due to extremely obese people in many cases they need to get an operation to remove excess skin.
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The guy didn't have much excess skin. Skin tightens up and where it has stretched due to extremely obese people in many cases they need to get an operation to remove excess skin.
Grossly obese people get the sagging skin only on low calorie, low fat diets, stomach stapling and stomach shrinking surgeries, and doing aerobic exercises to lose weight. Sagging skin doesn't happen on keto, extremely low carb, diets, for the reasons that I mentioned, and pumping iron will help you avoid it too. I knew one guy who got stomach reduction, because he was just too addicted to carbs to stop eating them. Due to complications with the surgery, he almost died twice. But he couldn't eat too much of anything, and carbs made him sick now. So he had to eat fat and protein on doctor's orders, and the enlightened doctor told him to not waste his time waddling on a tread mill, but to get some dumbbells and start pumping iron. He was 5'5" and 525# when he started, and after a year and some months he was down to 250#. No skin sagging at all. That was 5+ years ago when I last saw him, and he told me the doctor wanted him down another 75#. I don't know if he made it, but he was totally optimistic that he would, and was sorry that he couldn't have just stopped eating carbs on his own.
If you believe sagging skin is inevitable when dieting, then you don't have no clue how to diet correctly.
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Grossly obese people get the sagging skin only on low calorie, low fat diets, stomach stapling and stomach shrinking surgeries, and doing aerobic exercises to lose weight. Sagging skin doesn't happen on keto, extremely low carb, diets, for the reasons that I mentioned, and pumping iron will help you avoid it too. I knew one guy who got stomach reduction, because he was just too addicted to carbs to stop eating them. Due to complications with the surgery, he almost died twice. But he couldn't eat too much of anything, and carbs made him sick now. So he had to eat fat and protein on doctor's orders, and the enlightened doctor told him to not waste his time waddling on a tread mill, but to get some dumbbells and start pumping iron. He was 5'5" and 525# when he started, and after a year and some months he was down to 250#. No skin sagging at all. That was 5+ years ago when I last saw him, and he told me the doctor wanted him down another 75#. I don't know if he made it, but he was totally optimistic that he would, and was sorry that he couldn't have just stopped eating carbs on his own.
If you believe sagging skin is inevitable when dieting, then you don't have no clue how to diet correctly.
It's genetic and individual how elastic a persons skin is. Just like stretch marks. Pumping iron and eating a well balanced nutrious diet with good fats and losing bodyfat over a good amount of time is definitely going to help the excess skin retain its elasticity.
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It's genetic and individual how elastic a persons skin is. Just like stretch marks. Pumping iron and eating a well balanced nutrious diet with good fats and losing bodyfat over a good amount of time is definitely going to help the excess skin retain its elasticity.
It's biology, not genetics. Skin is naturally elastic. Always the genetics excuse. A low carb diet IS a well balanced nutritious diet, containing all the nutritional essentials for good health and fitness. It's not the amount of time that you are on a diet, that will determine, if you have lose skin from dieting or not. It is the diet that you are on, that causes sagging skin during weight loss.
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It's biology, not genetics. Skin is naturally elastic. Always the genetics excuse. A low carb diet IS a well balanced nutritious diet, containing all the nutritional essentials for good health and fitness. It's not the amount of time that you are on a diet, that will determine, if you have lose skin from dieting or not. It is the diet that you are on, that causes sagging skin during weight loss.
You are delusional. Genetics do factor in. Eat some rice and then post some.
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You are delusional. Genetics do factor in. Eat some rice and then post some.
If I ate rice it would be detrimental to my brain function, then my posts would be as useless as yours are, from being on your high carb diet so long.
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If I ate rice it would be detrimental to my brain function, then my posts would be as useless as yours are, from being on your high carb diet so long.
LOL!
Someone is deeply in their character tonight, lol...
But if rice is so bad for brain function, why are Asians so smart?
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LOL!
Someone is deeply in their character tonight, lol...
But if rice is so bad for brain function, why are Asians so smart?
They're not. The vast majority of them are stupid peasants to this very day.
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They're not. The vast majority of them are stupid peasants to this very day.
LOL!
But seriously, do you ever eat carbs?
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If I ate rice it would be detrimental to my brain function, then my posts would be as useless as yours are, from being on your high carb diet so long.
You are a bloody idiot and shit talker. This is me while carb cycling with rice and sweet potatoe. I got my fat low while eating carbs. My guess is you sit there drinking sugary drinks and think you are not digesting any carbs. I have seen your kind before.
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LOL!
But seriously, do you ever eat carbs?
Of course he does. He's a skinny fat twink sucking on sugary drinks all day .
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LOL!
But seriously, do you ever eat carbs?
Sure I eat carbs. I don't have a body fat problem, so I can ration some carbs into my diet, without porking out. I have Pizza 2 or 3 times per year. Ice cream once per month. I eat some berries every week or so. Drink some wine or beer occasionally. I even have pasta once a month. I can even drink coffee. But, if I were on a low carb diet, to lose body fat, then I wouldn't eat any of that, until I made weight, and I could see that in the mirror.
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Of course he does. He's a skinny fat twink sucking on sugary drinks all day .
Booty's in Beast mode!!!
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You are a bloody idiot and shit talker. This is me while carb cycling with rice and sweet potatoe. I got my fat low while eating carbs. My guess is you sit there drinking sugary drinks and think you are not digesting any carbs. I have seen your kind before.
Your experience, and your imagination are poor. You've never seen my kind before.
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Sure I eat carbs. I don't have a body fat problem, so I can ration some carbs into my diet, without porking out. I have Pizza 2 or 3 times per year. Ice cream once per month. I eat some berries every week or so. Drink some wine or beer occasionally. I even have pasta once a month. I can even drink coffee. But, if I were on a low carb diet, to lose body fat, then I wouldn't eat any of that, until I made weight, and I could see that in the mirror.
Well, as long as you're happy is all that counts. My eyes got real wide when I read how often you have pizza as I have it pretty much every week. Ice cream pretty much every day, pasta whenever I want. That on top of rather high fat meals as well. To get the cals I need just from fat and protein would be impossible.
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Your experience, and your imagination are poor. You've never seen my kind before.
Oh yes I have. Skinny fat twink who's a know it all, meanwhile he has never been in shape and eats sugar all day long while avoiding good carbs such as rice.
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Your experience, and your imagination are poor. You've never seen my kind before.
How about we see a pic of "your kind"?
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Well, as long as you're happy is all that counts. My eyes got real wide when I read how often you have pizza as I have it pretty much every week. Ice cream pretty much every day, pasta whenever I want. That on top of rather high fat meals as well. To get the cals I need just from fat and protein would be impossible.
A keto diet is high fat, so getting high calories, is easily possible. Usually 5000 to 8000 per day for me.
Fat and protein taste delicious. Now after years on low carb, carbs are bland or sickly sweet tasting, and I don't have any real desire for them. I broke my carb addiction.
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A keto diet is high fat, so getting high calories, is easily possible. Usually 5000 to 8000 per day for me.
Fat and protein taste delicious. Now after years on low carb, carbs are bland or sickly sweet tasting, and I don't have any real desire for them. I broke my carb addiction.
Break down your typical daily diet.
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A keto diet is high fat, so getting high calories, is easily possible. Usually 5000 to 8000 per day for me.
Fat and protein taste delicious. Now after years on low carb, carbs are bland or sickly sweet tasting, and I don't have any real desire for them. I broke my carb addiction.
I get nausea when I go over a certain level of fats per meal and totally get the runs, also being ecto, carbs are a must.
So what's a daily food plan like for you?
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Omg I just read the post about coffee being carbs. His kind has managed to make me speechless. And that's hard to do.
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Break down your typical daily diet.
OK. Today I started with a Whey Isolate Powder, two scoops mixed into about 8oz of heavy cream, with a handful of supps.
next green lettuce salad with a a little cheese, and EVOO and vinegar.
1/2 pound of bacon and six eggs (fried in the bacon grease)
pint of sour cream with scoop of nutritional yeast
pound of chicken breast fried in butter, with steamed broccoli with butter on it
Some slices, handful, of London broil, that I had in the fridge, for snack
Going to have another Whey drink, same as before, any minute now
That would be about it for today. I use salt on everything. Had a cup of black coffee too. Can't
think of anything else that I missed today, might have been other stuff too, but you get the idea.
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Omg I just read the post about coffee being carbs. His kind has managed to make me speechless. And that's hard to do.
What puzzles me, is as odd as such claims above, he can explain how protein and fats work rather deeply. Gotta give him credit for that, it does show he knows his nutrition on a high level.
Then at times, kinda seems like he's trolling to keep his character fun as straight up information is kinda boring.
Didn't like you much at first Erik but am seeing this differently now.
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What puzzles me, is as odd as such claims above, he can explain how protein and fats work rather deeply. Gotta give him credit for that, it does show he knows his nutrition on a high level.
Then at times, kinda seems like he's trolling to keep his character fun as straight up information is kinda boring.
Didn't like you much at first Erik but am seeing this differently now.
He could have thrown the coffee coment in as a joke.
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He could have thrown the coffee coment in as a joke.
His reasoning is coffee is a bean that comes from a plant and plants have carbs.
Correct, Erik?
How that can affect blood sugar? No idea...
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His reasoning is coffee is a bean that comes from a plant and plants have carbs.
Correct, Erik?
How that can affect blood sugar? No idea..
Carbs even mixed in water can spike insulin to fat forming levels. As I said, it is to be avoided if you are doing extremely low carb diet, to lose body fat.
You can, as I do, take digestive enzymes with each meal. Ox bile is especially good for digesting fats. Plant based fats should be avoided, as they are the most indigestible fats. I only use EVOO and EV sesame seed oil, sparingly.
There is no reason that an ecto requires carbs.
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His reasoning is coffee is a bean that comes from a plant and plants have carbs.
Correct, Erik?
How that can affect blood sugar? No idea...
Plants are amazing. I love all vegetables. Eric doesn't use extra virgin olive oil I noticed but instead consumes butter and cream a lot. I am the opposite... I try to stay clear of animal fats and consume a lot of extra Virgin olive oil. I also use flaxseed oil in my am protein shake.
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12 weeks on Keto, don't think we have to wonder about his natty status
(http://i.imgur.com/zNrhGBz.jpg)
This wasn't a 12-week transformation. It was 30 weeks. And the guy competes in physique contests, so is it really that unlikely that he uses gear?
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Coffee triggers insulin so he's right about the effect wrong about the carb. Right its a natural transformation........ completely fucking clueless about carbs! Carbs do not make you fat, I used to believe this crap and constantly did Keto diets.
There is no process in the body that converts carbs into fat. Moderate carbs mixers with high fat make you fat. You body loves carbs for fuel, it chooses to use it over all other sources. when you eat carbs and fat combined your body uses all the carbs for fuel and stores the less efficient fuel fat for another time. In fact if you eat a diet massively high in carbs but have no fat content you will feel amazing, loose weight and brain function higher.
Until I became a cyclist I had the same over researched attitude towards carbs. I can eat 8-10k calories in carbs and still loose weight.
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Coffee triggers insulin so he's right about the effect wrong about the carb. Right its a natural transformation........ completely fucking clueless about carbs! Carbs do not make you fat, I used to believe this crap and constantly did Keto diets.
There is no process in the body that converts carbs into fat. Moderate carbs mixers with high fat make you fat. You body loves carbs for fuel, it chooses to use it over all other sources. when you eat carbs and fat combined your body uses all the carbs for fuel and stores the less efficient fuel fat for another time. In fact if you eat a diet massively high in carbs but have no fat content you will feel amazing, loose weight and brain function higher.
Until I became a cyclist I had the same over researched attitude towards carbs. I can eat 8-10k calories in carbs and still loose weight.
A good solid post !!!
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This wasn't a 12-week transformation. It was 30 weeks. And the guy competes in physique contests, so is it really that unlikely that he uses gear?
Don't know who the guy is, but the pictures as you posted them, are not the least bit unusual, for 12 week transformation, doing a very strict extremely low carb keto diet.
Could he be using gear? Could be. Still, the results could easily been obtained without gear, doing real keto.
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Don't know who the guy is, but the pictures as you posted them, are not the least bit unusual, for 12 week transformation, doing a very strict extremely low carb keto diet.
Could he be using gear? Could be. Still, the results could easily been obtained without gear, doing real keto.
It was 30 weeks on keto and he doesn't impress me.
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There is no process in the body that converts carbs into fat.
You posted a lot of stupid things in one short paragraph, but that sentence is about as clueless as it gets. You know nothing about the physiological processes of fat creation in the human body. I'd explain it in detail, as I would also explain how cycling is a lousy form of exercise that badly stresses the hip bones, being used at a bad angle, leading to a huge spike in the number of broken hips in bike riders, because the human body isn't designed to run in a seated position, but I really don't believe that you are mentally capable of understanding any explanation, of any subject, known to man.
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I think it's time for Eric to post up a pic of his Physquie instead of belittling everyone else.
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Don't know who the guy is, but the pictures as you posted them, are not the least bit unusual, for 12 week transformation, doing a very strict extremely low carb keto diet.
Could he be using gear? Could be. Still, the results could easily been obtained without gear, doing real keto.
The results would be unusual for a 12-week keto, but it's not even a 12 week transformation. It was 30 weeks.
And you seriously don't think he's added muscle to his arms, traps and shoulders? Just stripped off fat
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I think it's time for Eric to post up a pic of his Physquie instead of belittling everyone else.
As usual, you're thinking wrong. I don't do this for a living, and in my real life, I don't want to be linked with bodybuilding, and the juicing associated with it in the public's mind.
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The results would be unusual for a 12-week keto, but it's not even a 12 week transformation. It was 30 weeks.
And you seriously don't think he's added muscle to his arms, traps and shoulders? Just stripped off fat
I don't see any muscle increase at all. All I see is an increase in the muscle that is visible now, that was covered by body fat before. His face got thinner, even the jaw line. It would have been the reverse, if he had been on juice.
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As usual, you're thinking wrong. I don't do this for a living, and in my real life, I don't want to be linked with bodybuilding, and the juicing associated with it in the public's mind.
Your belittling digs are to divert the fact that you don't have any Physquie to display, which would corelate with what you are preaching. Posting a pic with your face edited out is what we want to see.
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Your belittling digs are to divert the fact that you don't have any Physquie to display, which would corelate with what you are preaching. Posting a pic with your face edited out is what we want to see.
Why? You'll just say it's not me.
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I don't see any muscle increase at all. All I see is an increase in the muscle that is visible now, that was covered by body fat before. His face got thinner, even the jaw line. It would have been the reverse, if he had been on juice.
The increase in muscle size is pretty obvious. And if he's fat and loses weight, of course his face will get thinner, even on gear.
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The increase in muscle size is pretty obvious. And if he's fat and loses weight, of course his face will get thinner, even on gear.
In the after picture, he is standing closer to the mirror. That's all you are seeing.
You seem to think that no one can get in great shape without drugs. But once upon a time, in an another era, not that far far away back in time, there were no drugs to use, and people still got in shape, got stronger, got bigger, and sure got better looking bodies, than what passes for bodybuilders today. And, you know what? It can be done today too. Just by doing what bodybuilders did, before there were any drugs to use.
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When your body produces insulin it stores all fats and TRIES to convert glycogen (from carbs)into fat stores. The process is called de novo lipogenesis and is so inefficient it's now believed not possible. Your kidneys are also like a car they have a certain amount of mileage they can cope with, they may be working fine now but all that high protein will shorten the life function of them. A high carb, low fat diet is exactly how your body was designed to function. You educated yourself on the advantages of a low carb diet but none of the disadvantages, think you should look read up on both sides of the story and stop snipping at people.
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When your body produces insulin it stores all fats and TRIES to convert glycogen (from carbs)into fat stores. The process is called de novo lipogenesis and is so inefficient it's now believed not possible. Your kidneys are also like a car they have a certain amount of mileage they can cope with, they may be working fine now but all that high protein will shorten the life function of them. A high carb, low fat diet is exactly how your body was designed to function. You educated yourself on the advantages of a low carb diet but none of the disadvantages, think you should look read up on both sides of the story and stop snipping at people.
For the sake of humanity, hop into your kidneys, and drive off a cliff.
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Medicine in 2015 says: combine sugar & fat = obesity
Pizza + booze = Basile
I eat sugar and fat everyday and I've been sub 10% for decades.
It's how much you eat. Eat a cube of sugar and a stick of butter everyday and see if you get fat.
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In order to function properly, his brain needs more carbs
Isn't being in a state of ketosis is when your body is converting amino acids into glucose?
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Isn't being in a state of ketosis is when your body is converting amino acids into glucose?
From what I've read about it, yes, and this shows that your body needs glucose in order to function properly.
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Good stuff, Pellius!
Thanks!!
When was the last time you saw Dan?
Haven't seen him since I moved back to Hawaii in 2006. His daughter was a hottie and was part of the office crew in the old Moon Lighting series where Bruce Willis got his start.
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Sad thing when you read in to Bruce Lee, like Michael Jordan as well, is they were/are both complete assholes
Never got that impression or vibe at all and this is the first time I've heard such a claim. Lee, like Jordan, like all who are driven to succeed, are intense personalities and I'm sure has rubbed people the wrong way at times. I mean, Arnold was infamous for his ruthless personality. But I never heard of Lee being generally regarded as an asshole.
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Never got that impression or vibe at all and this is the first time I've heard such a claim. Lee, like Jordan, like all who are driven to succeed, are intense personalities and I'm sure has rubbed people the wrong way at times. I mean, Arnold was infamous for his ruthless personality. But I never heard of Lee being generally regarded as an asshole.
Pellius did you ever meet Ed Parker? another intresting man who exchanged points with lee. seems they both got on well.
http://www.portlaoisekenpo.com/ed-parker/
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Carbs even mixed in water can spike insulin to fat forming levels. As I said, it is to be avoided if you are doing extremely low carb diet, to lose body fat.
You can, as I do, take digestive enzymes with each meal. Ox bile is especially good for digesting fats. Plant based fats should be avoided, as they are the most indigestible fats. I only use EVOO and EV sesame seed oil, sparingly.
There is no reason that an ecto requires carbs.
Because they're good and satisfying. I'm an ecto and life would suck without donuts, pizza, ice cream and fries. There's a reason why carbs are part of the macro nutrient profile. Never made sense to me to completely eliminate a macro nutrient permanently. But I do believe it's true that if you want to lose weight fast zero/low carbs are the way to go. Just losing the water alone helps you make weight. But that's from what I've heard as I've never been on low carbs let alone zero carbs diet. If you want to lose weight you have to be at a caloric deficit no matter what you are eating or not eating.
I eat pretty healthy but not a week goes by where I don't have pizza -- a pan pizza. I love the thick crust. Also, I eat about six McDoubles and fries over the course of a week. Go through a half gallon of ice cream and just can't resist getting in a half of dozen doughnuts a week. Just finished a 5 oz bag of honey dijon kettle chips going through this thread. I get most of my carbs at night just before I go to bed. TA is the same way. The secret is that our caloric expenditure matches our caloric intake. Unlike TA, I don't believe the calorie in/calorie out theory. Eating 100 calories of celery is going to be processed differently than a 100 calories of cheetos. So the calorie "In" is not the same calorie once it's "In" the body. But still the bottom line is whether you are at a caloric deficit, surplus or equilibrium.
You don't have to be a bodybuilder to post a pic. Just a pic of your waistline will tell us all we need to know. I don't consider myself a bodybuilder per se as I'm not trying to build bigger muscles. But I'm pretty active and always stay below 10% (more like 8%) on a carb rich diet. I burn off those donuts and pizza and would lose weight if I didn't eat "junk" food because I am an ecto. I need those carbs.
I won't hold my breath waiting for you to prove and back up your talk.
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Pellius did you ever meet Ed Parker? another intresting man who exchanged points with lee. seems they both got on well.
http://www.portlaoisekenpo.com/ed-parker/
No. And I may be wrong but didn't he live in Hawaii?
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No. And I may be wrong but didn't he live in Hawaii?
yes i believe so..or at least he started there. Elvis was a Black belt under him.. Elvis the King ;D
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yes i believe so..or at least he started there. Elvis was a Black belt under him.. Elvis the King ;D
I remember Elvis as a fighter than a singer because I just knew him from some movie where he was doing flips and shit and kicking ass. I lived for that stuff as there wasn't much KungFu fighting going on on TV until that show "Kung Fu" with David Carridine came out and "Five Fingers of Death" hit the movie screens in the early 1970s. I also remember that guy from the "Wild Wild West" Robert Conrad having some moves as well as "Link" from the "Mod Squad". That nig could scrap. I watched those lame shows just for the fight scenes and later would try them out on my brother.
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Because they're good and satisfying. I'm an ecto and life would suck without donuts, pizza, ice cream and fries. There's a reason why carbs are part of the macro nutrient profile. Never made sense to me to completely eliminate a macro nutrient permanently. But I do believe it's true that if you want to lose weight fast zero/low carbs are the way to go. Just losing the water alone helps you make weight. But that's from what I've heard as I've never been on low carbs let alone zero carbs diet. If you want to lose weight you have to be at a caloric deficit no matter what you are eating or not eating.
I eat pretty healthy but not a week goes by where I don't have pizza -- a pan pizza. I love the thick crust. Also, I eat about six McDoubles and fries over the course of a week. Go through a half gallon of ice cream and just can't resist getting in a half of dozen doughnuts a week. Just finished a 5 oz bag of honey dijon kettle chips going through this thread. I get most of my carbs at night just before I go to bed. TA is the same way. The secret is that our caloric expenditure matches our caloric intake. Unlike TA, I don't believe the calorie in/calorie out theory. Eating 100 calories of celery is going to be processed differently than a 100 calories of cheetos. So the calorie "In" is not the same calorie once it's "In" the body. But still the bottom line is whether you are at a caloric deficit, surplus or equilibrium.
You don't have to be a bodybuilder to post a pic. Just a pic of your waistline will tell us all we need to know. I don't consider myself a bodybuilder per se as I'm not trying to build bigger muscles. But I'm pretty active and always stay below 10% (more like 8%) on a carb rich diet. I burn off those donuts and pizza and would lose weight if I didn't eat "junk" food because I am an ecto. I need those carbs.
I won't hold my breath waiting for you to prove and back up your talk.
Aren't you taking growth? (just to see things in full perspective, so no pun intended!) If so, are you taking pharma or generic stuff and how many iu's/day?
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Aren't you taking growth? (just to see things in full perspective, so no pun intended!) If so, are you taking pharma or generic stuff and how many iu's/day?
No gh. I would if I could afford it for it's antiaging properties.
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No gh. I would if I could afford it for it's antiaging properties.
Ah ok, my bad. Same reason here, plus the extra fat burning & deep sleeps. It's about time that it becomes more affordable :-\
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Because they're good and satisfying. I'm an ecto and life would suck without donuts, pizza, ice cream and fries.
I cant remember anymore what is pizza,donuts,ice cream,fries :-\ :'( :'( :'(
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I cant remember anymore what is pizza,donuts,ice cream,fries :-\ :'( :'( :'(
Unless you are a professional athlete what is the purpose of your training and healthy life style? Isn't to enhance the quality of your life. I just don't get people who work full time, go to the gym six days a week, and so restrict themselves to even the most simply indulgent such as desserts or such once a week. When you train and work everyday that's your life. You have so little time for anything else such as family time. Your whole life revolves around your body and how it looks.
For some people that's their thing. They tend to be single and loners. I want my training to enhance my quality of life and give me the health and energy to enjoy other things life has to offer.
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I cant remember anymore what is pizza,donuts,ice cream,fries :-\ :'( :'( :'(
Since you're a big fan of coffee, try this :P
(http://foodswol.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Blended-Iced-Coffee-1.jpg)
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Since you're a big fan of coffee, try this :P
(http://foodswol.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Blended-Iced-Coffee-1.jpg)
What is it ???
:D
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What is it ???
:D
Blended iced coffee
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Blended iced coffee
10000 calories :P
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Since you're a big fan of coffee, try this :P
(http://foodswol.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Blended-Iced-Coffee-1.jpg)
I am unable to see this orgasmic iced coffee. :'(
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As usual, you're thinking wrong. I don't do this for a living, and in my real life, I don't want to be linked with bodybuilding, and the juicing associated with it in the public's mind.
Dont want to be linked with your racist neo nazi filth either huh
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never mind the Iced tea.. have a pint and Chill out... ;)
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I am unable to see this orgasmic iced coffee. :'(
Have yourself a nice cheat meal/drink every now and then :)
never mind the Iced tea.. have a pint and Chill out... ;)
Estrogen booster of peace..
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Dont want to be linked with your racist neo nazi filth either huh
It's only racist neo nazi filth if you want it to be. Otherwise you would have to make intelligent arguments against my statements, instead of just name calling.
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As usual, you're thinking wrong. I don't do this for a living, and in my real life, I don't want to be linked with bodybuilding, and the juicing associated with it in the public's mind.
Then why do you hang out here, schmoeing around or what ???
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Then why do you hang out here, schmoeing around or what ???
I thought it was a website about doing bodybuilding, and there is some on older threads that I've been mining for info about the pre drugs BB era, but most of what I see here is just schmoeing and drugs. Kind of sad really. I "hang out" at other sites too. More so than here.
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Then why do you hang out here, schmoeing around or what ???
;D
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I thought it was a website about doing bodybuilding, and there is some on older threads that I've been mining for info about the pre drugs BB era, but most of what I see here is just schmoeing and drugs. Kind of sad really. I "hang out" at other sites too. More so than here.
what sites?
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I thought it was a website about doing bodybuilding, and there is some on older threads that I've been mining for info about the pre drugs BB era, but most of what I see here is just schmoeing and drugs. Kind of sad really. I "hang out" at other sites too. More so than here.
I believe these places are more suitable for bitter ectomorphs like you,
http://forum.ironageonline.us/viewforum.php?f=2
http://www.tv.com/shows/teletubbies/forums/
http://www.gayforum.org/
"pre drugs BB era"... guess you're living 100 years in the past ::)
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what sites?
You wouldn't be interested. Nor would you be able to make any useful contributions to those sites.
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No. Only about 50.
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You wouldn't be interested. Nor would you be able to make any useful contributions to those sites.
no please tell us.. i want to read your expert advice on there too..or did they tell you that you are a dick ?
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[quote author=DroppingPlates link=topic=569660.msg8006583#msg8006583 date=142833154
"pre drugs BB era"... guess you're living 100 years in the past ::)
No. Only about 50.
https://www.wada-ama.org/en/who-we-are/a-brief-history-of-anti-doping , but again, you prob 'know' your stuff better ::)
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No gh. I would if I could afford it for it's antiaging properties.
You already look 80. No point.
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https://www.wada-ama.org/en/who-we-are/a-brief-history-of-anti-doping , but again, you prob 'know' your stuff better ::)
Eric sniffs Poppers before taking a length in his Butt.. his drug of choice
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppers
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You wouldn't be interested. Nor would you be able to make any useful contributions to those sites.
Here "your kind" goes again.
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I am unable to see this orgasmic iced coffee. :'(
imagine what Lee wanted on his chest , only in a glass ;D
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imagine what Lee wanted on his chest , only in a glass ;D
You can't put me into a glass.