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WALKERTON, Ind. -- A business in Walkerton is getting national attention and backlash following its statements and stance on the Religious Freedom Restoration Act.
Memories Pizza is on the record saying it wouldn't cater gay weddings, and that stance has gone viral online.
“I don’t have a problem with gay people, I do not condone gay marriage and that’s what I said,” co-owner Kevin O’Connor explained to The Daily Beast. “I don’t turn anybody away from the store, I don’t have a problem with gay people. I just don’t condone the marriage.”
Co-owner Crystal O'Connor talked with TheBlaze TV Wednesday evening.
"I don't know if we will re-open," she said when asked about the backlash the business has received. She also said her family is considering leaving town. "We're in hiding, basically."
"We're very hurt and confused," she added. "We stood up for what we believe. We said we would serve anyone who walked in the door -- even gays -- but we would not condone a wedding, we would not cater for it because that's against our religious beliefs."
Local reaction
Walkerton residents expressed feelings both in support and against the shop's decision.
"I support fully what they're doing," Brandon Dickson of Walkerton said. "I think it's everybody's opinion on what they want to do. If they don't want to serve those types of people you know? I'm sorry about their luck but that's their right. You can be gay all you want. I don't believe in it. It's my belief, you know. I don't want to see it. That's about all there is to that. It's my opinion and my belief. I believe it's a choice."
When asked about his choice of heterosexuality Dickson said, "I like girls, man. I've never liked the same sex in that way and what they do I don't find appropriate. Two sexes shouldn't be together."
"The law is one that is being misinterpreted," David Vermillion of Walkerton said. "It's not, from my perspective, the governor's idea that we should encourage discrimination but rather what the bill is truly intended for; freedom for people who do take their religion seriously."
The company's Yelp review page, which you can view here, has been flooded with critical comments.
Memories Pizza sees outpouring of support on GoFundMe
More than $14,000 was raised in under an hour on GoFundMe by supporters of Memories Pizza. The page was set up by TheBlaze.
After three hours, 661 people had donated and the total had reached over $26,000.
By late Thursday evening it was more than ten times that, with more than 9,500 people donating and surpassing $260,000 in one day.
On Friday morning, that total had reached more than $510,000 and continues to climb.
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LOL @ fascists freaks
please explain the fascism part
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man, what a gimmick by The Blaze via Glen Beck
he's found a new way to con money out of fundie dipshits
I wonder how The Blaze TV even wound up being in tiny pizza shop in a town with 2200 people asking this woman about her thoughts on this new law
Has anyone here even see The Blaze TV?
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No one ever attacked them. They were the ones that ran off at the mouth about not serving pizza at a gay wedding when no gay person would ever order pizza for their wedding reception. Only rednecks do that shit.
They certainly did get lucky though.
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CNN’s Gary Tuchman visited several florists in rural Georgia and asked if they would provide certain services to gay people. Of course they all said no… because Jesus.
The most telling part of the exchange was this one with florist Melissa Jeffcoat in which she was confronted about the specifics of her bigotry:
Tuchman: … In the Ten Commandments, it says you can’t commit adultery…
Jeffcoat: Right.
Tuchman: It says you need to honor your father and mother.
Jeffcoat: Mhmm.
Tuchman: If someone didn’t honor their parents or committed adultery, would you serve them?
Jeffcoat: Yes.
Tuchman: Well, why would you serve them but not serve someone who is gay?
Jeffcoat: It’s just a different kind of sin to me and I just don’t believe in it....
All sins are equal, but some are more equal than others. Got it. #ChristianLogic
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CNN’s Gary Tuchman visited several florists in rural Georgia and asked if they would provide certain services to gay people. Of course they all said no… because Jesus.
The most telling part of the exchange was this one with florist Melissa Jeffcoat in which she was confronted about the specifics of her bigotry:
Tuchman: … In the Ten Commandments, it says you can’t commit adultery…
Jeffcoat: Right.
Tuchman: It says you need to honor your father and mother.
Jeffcoat: Mhmm.
Tuchman: If someone didn’t honor their parents or committed adultery, would you serve them?
Jeffcoat: Yes.
Tuchman: Well, why would you serve them but not serve someone who is gay?
Jeffcoat: It’s just a different kind of sin to me and I just don’t believe in it....
All sins are equal, but some are more equal than others. Got it. #ChristianLogic
maybe some of our resident fundies can explain this logic
there is certainly a lot more adulterers than gay people and adultery is obviously a choice
then again, is this really surprising
don't almost all christians pick and choose what part of the "word of god" to follow and what parts to ignore
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HIDDEN CAMERA: Will Muslim Bakeries Make a Gay Wedding Cake?
Yes folks, I did this. I went there. You have this now. Actually, I taped this video a long time ago but due to audio corruption issues, was never able to upload it. Now that my in-house whizz kid, Jared was able to salvage the footage, I am now passing it onto you. What do you think happens when a gay, like SUPER gay Crowder tries to get a super gay wedding cake baked at a Muslim bakery? I'm pretty sure you can guess, but you might as well watch this week's adventure to Dearborn, MI to find out!
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the next bakery coming along should try this; it's a great way to take money from the masses.
cry boo hoo on fox news all day and watch as the $$ rolls in. gotta love this country!
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HIDDEN CAMERA: Will Muslim Bakeries Make a Gay Wedding Cake?
Yes folks, I did this. I went there. You have this now. Actually, I taped this video a long time ago but due to audio corruption issues, was never able to upload it. Now that my in-house whizz kid, Jared was able to salvage the footage, I am now passing it onto you. What do you think happens when a gay, like SUPER gay Crowder tries to get a super gay wedding cake baked at a Muslim bakery? I'm pretty sure you can guess, but you might as well watch this week's adventure to Dearborn, MI to find out!
What gay person would even go into a Muslim Bakery???
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Video on Muslim bakers points to double standard on gay weddings
Why Aren't the Media Going After Muslim Bakeries?
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The liberal media’s witchhunt on Christian bakeries and florists after the passage of Indiana’s Religious Freedom Restoration Act ignored facts that should have been obvious: Christianity wasn’t the only religion that considers homosexuality sinful. Fox News contributor and comedian Steven Crowder traveled to Dearborn, Mich. to do something the liberal news media would never dare. He asked Muslim bakery owners if they would bake a wedding cake for a gay couple.
Crowder noted that the media were “deliberately trying to set the narrative of mean, hateful Christians vs. poor, innocent gay people who are having their rights completely trampled.” Meanwhile, he said, gay people were being killed in “virtually every Muslim country” around the world. But the media were too busy reporting on the possibility of anti-gay discrimination by Christians to notice they were promoting discrimination and hate against Christians with biased reporting. In the two days following an interview with reporter Alyssa Marino at a local ABC station, the family-owned restaurant Memories Pizza had to close shop because of all the violent threats against the owner.
CNN reporter Gary Tuchman sought out Christian florists who wouldn’t provide flowers for a gay ceremony. Tuchman even approached a Christian florist and started hounding her about her beliefs on April 1’s Anderson Cooper 360. "The Bible talks an awful lot about love and loving your fellow man....You're not loving them if you don't want to serve them – right?" Tuchman asked. And later he pressed, "If someone didn't honor their parents or committed adultery, would you serve them?" It was hard to know which was worse, Tuchman’s condescension or the screen’s chyron which read, “Claiming Freedom, Shunning Gay People.”
The kind of intolerance and bigotry shown by the left was reminiscent of the attacks on California business owners and donors because of Prop 8 support a few years ago. Businesses were vandalized and had to close because of threats they received. Several Christian businesses have faced lawsuits, thousands of dollars in fines, or had to close their businesses down, due to their conscientious objections to provide their services for gay weddings.
Indiana’s law was enacted to protect such business owners. Like the Southern Poverty Law Center’s hate map, which inspired real left-wing violence against a conservative organization, the left’s attempt to portray Christians as bigots has allowed for more anti-Christian violence.
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FL Baker: We’re Getting Death Threats over Refusal to Make Anti-Gay Cake
Former pastor Joshua Feuerstein wanted to test something out amid the controversy this week over religious freedom and business rights. He figured if business owners should be compelled not to discriminate against homosexuals, then businesses should also be compelled not to discriminate against anti-gay Christians.
And so, on video, he recorded a phone conversation he had with Florida bakery Cut the Cake. He asked if they would make him a sheet cake saying “We do not support gay marriage.” The woman on the other end said they wouldn’t do that and hung up. After that, Feuerstein proceeded to identify the bakery in question and made his point about the religious freedom issue.
At one point, he said, “Gay marriage isn’t even illegal. It’s called marriage. If you’re a gay man and you want to be married, guess what? Just go find a woman and get married.”
Feuerstein encouraged viewers to call the bakery and and help “expose the hypocrisy” they’re supposedly engaging in. Well, in a parallel of what happened to Memories Pizza in Indiana, Cut the Cake ended up receiving quite a lot of angry messages, including death threats.
Sharon Haller, who Feuerstein spoke to on the phone, said, “We started getting some hundreds of phone calls and making very nasty and negative gestures towards our business, towards us.”
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FL Baker: We’re Getting Death Threats over Refusal to Make Anti-Gay Cake
LOL they released a link to their gofundme page at the same time, huh?
copycat? they're at 7 grand already.
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FL Baker: We’re Getting Death Threats over Refusal to Make Anti-Gay Cake
Former pastor Joshua Feuerstein wanted to test something out amid the controversy this week over religious freedom and business rights. He figured if business owners should be compelled not to discriminate against homosexuals, then businesses should also be compelled not to discriminate against anti-gay Christians.
And so, on video, he recorded a phone conversation he had with Florida bakery Cut the Cake. He asked if they would make him a sheet cake saying “We do not support gay marriage.” The woman on the other end said they wouldn’t do that and hung up. After that, Feuerstein proceeded to identify the bakery in question and made his point about the religious freedom issue.
At one point, he said, “Gay marriage isn’t even illegal. It’s called marriage. If you’re a gay man and you want to be married, guess what? Just go find a woman and get married.”
Feuerstein encouraged viewers to call the bakery and and help “expose the hypocrisy” they’re supposedly engaging in. Well, in a parallel of what happened to Memories Pizza in Indiana, Cut the Cake ended up receiving quite a lot of angry messages, including death threats.
Sharon Haller, who Feuerstein spoke to on the phone, said, “We started getting some hundreds of phone calls and making very nasty and negative gestures towards our business, towards us.”
Gays the new Isis? (Yes, I saw this and it makes sense).
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we are going to see dozens of companies, every day, releasing their "threats" with a gofundme link.
it's inevitable. Requires no proof of "threats" and people are begging to be a part of it - by donating, they are relevant and a huge part of it.
it's silly, really... at least The Blaze did the gofundme for the first company, the pizza place. This 2nd company, they just release, "hey, we're getting threats TOO! Here's the gofundme...."
Not accusing them of making it up, but i'm betting plenty will be doing this.
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Gays the new Isis? (Yes, I saw this and it makes sense).
Yes... gays are the new ISIS ::) They kill you by making you watch reruns of Sex and the City if you don't have a lisp.
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we are going to see dozens of companies, every day, releasing their "threats" with a gofundme link.
it's inevitable. Requires no proof of "threats" and people are begging to be a part of it - by donating, they are relevant and a huge part of it.
it's silly, really... at least The Blaze did the gofundme for the first company, the pizza place. This 2nd company, they just release, "hey, we're getting threats TOO! Here's the gofundme...."
Not accusing them of making it up, but i'm betting plenty will be doing this.
It's a crazy time we live in my friend!
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Gay-Inclusive Church Choir Sings Hymns Before Memories Pizza
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A South Bend, IN church choir called The Ripple Effect sang Friday in front of Memories Pizza, the pizzeria that become the focal point of the debate over Indiana’s “religious freedom” law, in an effort to bridge the divide between Christian businesses and the LGBT community.
“There are a lot of hurt people,” choir director Sherry Klinedinst told WSBT-TV. “There are a lot of angry people. I’m really hoping we can just find some common ground.”
Memories Pizza owner Crystal O’Connor told a local news station last week that she would not cater a same-sex wedding due to her religious beliefs, describing the exact brand of discrimination critics feared the new law would embolden. The pizzeria withstood a torrent of online criticism after the clip went viral, then was forced to close due to threats. A GoFundMe campaign led by conservative radio host Dana Loesch has since raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for the pizzeria’s owners, who plan to reopen their restaurant soon.
“We’re not here to condemn or condone the owners of the establishment,” Klinedinst said. “We’re here to show them and the community that we can show love to people in spite of our differences.”
The Ripple Effect might have been moved to enter the debate due to its inclusion of gay members. “We just have differing opinions,” said one of the choir’s gay members. “But, that’s okay. We’re supposed to have differing opinions. That’s what diversity is all about.”
According to WSBT, few stopped to listen to the choir, and one man told them to get a job.
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CNN’s Gary Tuchman visited several florists in rural Georgia and asked if they would provide certain services to gay people. Of course they all said no… because Jesus.
The most telling part of the exchange was this one with florist Melissa Jeffcoat in which she was confronted about the specifics of her bigotry:
Tuchman: … In the Ten Commandments, it says you can’t commit adultery…
Jeffcoat: Right.
Tuchman: It says you need to honor your father and mother.
Jeffcoat: Mhmm.
Tuchman: If someone didn’t honor their parents or committed adultery, would you serve them?
Jeffcoat: Yes.
Tuchman: Well, why would you serve them but not serve someone who is gay?
Jeffcoat: It’s just a different kind of sin to me and I just don’t believe in it....
All sins are equal, but some are more equal than others. Got it. #ChristianLogic
What's even more telling is this CNN reporter can't use common sense to tell the difference between merely serving a person (no matter what commandment they supposedly break) and making products that blatantly condone breaking such commandments.
Speaking of which, The Ten Commandments are on right now (ABC). I believe they're at plague 3 or 4 at the moment. But, Killing Jesus and A.D. The Bible Continues are also on the air. I made a thread about this on the Religion Forum, which is why I came to Getbig initially today.
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Video on Muslim bakers points to double standard on gay weddings
Why Aren't the Media Going After Muslim Bakeries?
(http://newsbusters.org/s3/files/styles/blog_body-40/s3/images/muslimbakery.JPG?itok=zR3ACfNM)
The liberal media’s witchhunt on Christian bakeries and florists after the passage of Indiana’s Religious Freedom Restoration Act ignored facts that should have been obvious: Christianity wasn’t the only religion that considers homosexuality sinful. Fox News contributor and comedian Steven Crowder traveled to Dearborn, Mich. to do something the liberal news media would never dare. He asked Muslim bakery owners if they would bake a wedding cake for a gay couple.
Crowder noted that the media were “deliberately trying to set the narrative of mean, hateful Christians vs. poor, innocent gay people who are having their rights completely trampled.” Meanwhile, he said, gay people were being killed in “virtually every Muslim country” around the world. But the media were too busy reporting on the possibility of anti-gay discrimination by Christians to notice they were promoting discrimination and hate against Christians with biased reporting. In the two days following an interview with reporter Alyssa Marino at a local ABC station, the family-owned restaurant Memories Pizza had to close shop because of all the violent threats against the owner.
CNN reporter Gary Tuchman sought out Christian florists who wouldn’t provide flowers for a gay ceremony. Tuchman even approached a Christian florist and started hounding her about her beliefs on April 1’s Anderson Cooper 360. "The Bible talks an awful lot about love and loving your fellow man....You're not loving them if you don't want to serve them – right?" Tuchman asked. And later he pressed, "If someone didn't honor their parents or committed adultery, would you serve them?" It was hard to know which was worse, Tuchman’s condescension or the screen’s chyron which read, “Claiming Freedom, Shunning Gay People.”
The kind of intolerance and bigotry shown by the left was reminiscent of the attacks on California business owners and donors because of Prop 8 support a few years ago. Businesses were vandalized and had to close because of threats they received. Several Christian businesses have faced lawsuits, thousands of dollars in fines, or had to close their businesses down, due to their conscientious objections to provide their services for gay weddings.
Indiana’s law was enacted to protect such business owners. Like the Southern Poverty Law Center’s hate map, which inspired real left-wing violence against a conservative organization, the left’s attempt to portray Christians as bigots has allowed for more anti-Christian violence.
What gay person would even go into a Muslim Bakery???
CONGRATULATIONS!!! You get the point!!!
These cracked gay activists and their supporters are nothing but COWARDS!! Here is a small business, refusing to do a same-sex wedding for the same reason that their Christian counterparts are doing. Yet, you can bet those Muslims are as safe as a flea in a shag carpet.
Why!! The gay-stapo and their lefty brethren don't want none from the Team Allah crew, because they know the Muslims will get medieval on them and show them what gay bashing really is.
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we are going to see dozens of companies, every day, releasing their "threats" with a gofundme link.
it's inevitable. Requires no proof of "threats" and people are begging to be a part of it - by donating, they are relevant and a huge part of it.
it's silly, really... at least The Blaze did the gofundme for the first company, the pizza place. This 2nd company, they just release, "hey, we're getting threats TOO! Here's the gofundme...."
Not accusing them of making it up, but i'm betting plenty will be doing this.
It was Dana Loesch, of the Blaze, that got it rolling. When the owners appeared on Hannity (TV show), they initially said they would close despite the money being raised. But, once this story got to Rush's show, the money started pouring into the electro-coffers. He asked the listeners to see if they could get to 750K before his show went off the air. And it appears they got it.
As a result, the owners said they will re-open their shop, at a date to be determined.
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It was Dana Loesch, of the Blaze, that got it rolling. When the owners appeared on Hannity (TV show), they initially said they would close despite the money being raised. But, once this story got to Rush's show, the money started pouring into the electro-coffers. He asked the listeners to see if they could get to 750K before his show went off the air. And it appears they got it.
As a result, the owners said they will re-open their shop, at a date to be determined.
lol that's smart as fvck. They have retirement money now. Just like that. And people who are swamped in debt with no health insurance are sending them money because they approve of their beliefs. What a country! lol.
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What's even more telling is this CNN reporter can't use common sense to tell the difference between merely serving a person (no matter what commandment they supposedly break) and making products that blatantly condone breaking such commandments.
That's a novel argument... stupid and ridiculous, but novel.
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All the pieces exist for people to start manufacturing these events (if they haven't already). Sad part is that media is dead-set to pounce on the stories and to portray them in a certain way - so you have to wonder if a scam would be properly addressed if it was discovered.
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That's a novel argument... stupid and ridiculous, but novel.
You can't tell the difference between someone participating in an immoral act and commissioning a private business to participate in such, via its products. Methinks the "stupid and ridiculous" tag fits your arguments.
What's next, forcing black-owned businesses to cater Klan rallies with nooses around the necks of black figurines?
Or, Christian bakeries forced to make cakes with sex toys for adult film festivals?
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"The Right" is very desperate for heroes. Tough to find consistency in those ranks. Jeb is the 2016 frontrunner and he's has as many liberal positions as conservative ones lol.
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"The Right" is very desperate for heroes. Tough to find consistency in those ranks. Jeb is the 2016 frontrunner and he's has as many liberal positions as conservative ones lol.
The Blaze literally fabricated this entire thing
How did they wind up in a small town (2200 people) asking the local pizza joint about this.
Has anyone every been to a wedding that was catered by a pizza place?
Did they actually turn down a request to cater a gay wedding?
Then the so called "news and entertainment" network sets up the donation fund snowballing this thing into a "story" and now the donations are the story
I wonder if they will even give the $'s to these fundie hillbillies or will they require them to spend it on advertising on their channel
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Straw, can you give a basic timeline of events when you have a moment?
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Straw, can you give a basic timeline of events when you have a moment?
I'm sure it's available on line
why do you ask?
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this seems to be the smartest route to becoming wealthy instantly. Do something to piss off a minority group... Black, Gay etc...
Then say some shit about gun rights or religious freedom... and boom... toothless inbread closet racists send money..
Happened with Zimms, Officer Wilson, and now this...
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I'm sure it's available on line
why do you ask?
I'll look it up in a few, thanks. Was just wondering about what you said.
I confess to completely ignoring this "news", so far.
So I don't even know how it started.
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this seems to be the smartest route to becoming wealthy instantly. Do something to piss off a minority group... Black, Gay etc...
Then say some shit about gun rights or religious freedom... and boom... toothless inbread closet racists send money..
Happened with Zimms, Officer Wilson, and now this...
lol I agree except for Wilson,the gentle giant got what was coming to him
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this seems to be the smartest route to becoming wealthy instantly. Do something to piss off a minority group... Black, Gay etc...
Then say some shit about gun rights or religious freedom... and boom... toothless inbread closet racists send money..
Happened with Zimms, Officer Wilson, and now this...
The line "Take That, Fascists!" is the funniest part of it all.
They lack control over most things in their life. This gives them power they sorely lack and totally desire. "I finally showed those on the left that..." You didn't show anyone, anything. You demonstrated that a low-education person barely making ends meet is willing to drop $20 in the bucket so some owner of a pizza joint - with questions abound as to how the actual circumstances took place - can now retire with a million in the bank.
Only in america. I can't hate on the pizza people. Zimmerman made millions and he was a wife-beating obama voter. ANYONE that stands against obama, gays, etc... they suddnely become the most important person in the lives of some.
It's hilarious, but it's cool. I'm sure mother jones and others will be out next week with "pizza shop owner campaigned twice for obama and did this or that", since this usually happens. Remember the "hero" cattelherder? Everyone donated to him too. He was just a deadbeat and his minions were requiring "papers" from those they illegally stopped lol.
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The Blaze literally fabricated this entire thing
How did they wind up in a small town (2200 people) asking the local pizza joint about this.
Has anyone every been to a wedding that was catered by a pizza place?
Did they actually turn down a request to cater a gay wedding?
Then the so called "news and entertainment" network sets up the donation fund snowballing this thing into a "story" and now the donations are the story
I wonder if they will even give the $'s to these fundie hillbillies or will they require them to spend it on advertising on their channel
Nobody claimed they actually turned down catering a gay wedding. A news reporter from a station in South Bend (ABC 57) went to that shop saw that store's Christian decorations and ASKED the owner (or co-owner) if they'd cater a gay wedding.
The left blew this story up, pure and simple. Notice how lefties believe this was legit, when they thought this woman and her store were going belly up.
But now that she and her store got nearly $1 million to keep her store afloat, all of a sudden it's made up; it's fake.
The only reason liberals are weeping and gnashing their teeth is because they didn't get the desired outcome (i.e. crushing another small business that wouldn't bow the knee to their 'gay rights' agenda).
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What's even more telling is this CNN reporter can't use common sense to tell the difference between merely serving a person (no matter what commandment they supposedly break) and making products that blatantly condone breaking such commandments.
Speaking of which, The Ten Commandments are on right now (ABC). I believe they're at plague 3 or 4 at the moment. But, Killing Jesus and A.D. The Bible Continues are also on the air. I made a thread about this on the Religion Forum, which is why I came to Getbig initially today.
Didn't the cattle get wiped out twice during the plagues? Seems to me God had an issue with cattle...
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So I see there are sites that promote the idea it is/was a scam from the beginning, yeah.
Do people wait to get their marching orders from these sources before they conceive of the idea themselves, I wonder?
It's actually scary to see so many people being led around by the ear. Look at The Coach on the other thread. Same thing, different "side".
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What gay person would even go into a Muslim Bakery???
Why would they go to a christian bakery and then sue them and turn it into a federal case in the media when a christian refuses to bake the cake??
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That's a novel argument... stupid and ridiculous, but novel.
HEHEHEHE!!
MCWAY clearly showed that you are an imbecile. Leave this board, you simple minded fool.
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Why would they go to a christian bakery and then sue them and turn it into a federal case in the media when a christian refuses to bake the cake??
Media is what's starting all this shit in the first place, though. That's the thing.
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Didn't the cattle get wiped out twice during the plagues? Seems to me God had an issue with cattle...
I only count once, during the plagues with the flies. But more cattle were probably wiped out via residual effects of the other plagues.
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I only count once, during the plagues with the flies. But more cattle were probably wiped out via residual effects of the other plagues.
Exodus 9:6 and Exodus 9:20
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Why would they go to a christian bakery and then sue them and turn it into a federal case in the media when a christian refuses to bake the cake??
Its illegal for any bakery...Muslim or Christian to discriminate.
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Rihanna Calls Out ‘Bullsh*t’ Religious Freedom Law During Indiana Concert
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Celebrities and CEOs have been up in arms over Indiana’s religious freedom law, with some even boycotting the state entirely in protest over discrimination of gays and lesbians under the law. And even after Governor Mike Pence signed a clarification bill, the pressure hasn’t entirely lifted.
Over the weekend, various artists performed at the March Madness Music Fest in Indianapolis, including Rihanna. During her set, she shouted, “Who’s feeling these new bullshit laws they’re trying to pass around here?”
She continued, “I say fuck that shit!… We’re just living our motherfucking lives!”
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Its illegal for any bakery...Muslim or Christian to discriminate.
No, it's not. Per federal law, people can't be forced to participate in events that go against their religious beliefs. The libs made this law to exempt Native Americans from federal law that ban peyote (their version of weed), because it was part of their religious rituals.
Now, it's come back to bite them. Nobody has to be forced to use their products or services for events or actions that run counter to their beliefs.
But, of course, the left is too cowardly to pull the same crap on the Muslims that they did with the Christian owner of Memories Pizza.
Rihanna Calls Out ‘Bullsh*t’ Religious Freedom Law During Indiana Concert
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Celebrities and CEOs have been up in arms over Indiana’s religious freedom law, with some even boycotting the state entirely in protest over discrimination of gays and lesbians under the law. And even after Governor Mike Pence signed a clarification bill, the pressure hasn’t entirely lifted.
Over the weekend, various artists performed at the March Madness Music Fest in Indianapolis, including Rihanna. During her set, she shouted, “Who’s feeling these new bullshit laws they’re trying to pass around here?”
She continued, “I say fuck that shit!… We’re just living our motherfucking lives!”
Somebody needs to tell Rihanna that other people are doing the same thing, as far as living their lives is concerned.
In addition, Chris Brown's former punching bag might want to note that the law isn't anything new.
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"The Right" is very desperate for heroes. Tough to find consistency in those ranks. Jeb is the 2016 frontrunner and he's has as many liberal positions as conservative ones lol.
the war on Easter just finished and it's too early to revisit the war on Christmas
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The line "Take That, Fascists!" is the funniest part of it all.
They lack control over most things in their life. This gives them power they sorely lack and totally desire. "I finally showed those on the left that..." You didn't show anyone, anything. You demonstrated that a low-education person barely making ends meet is willing to drop $20 in the bucket so some owner of a pizza joint - with questions abound as to how the actual circumstances took place - can now retire with a million in the bank.
Only in america. I can't hate on the pizza people. Zimmerman made millions and he was a wife-beating obama voter. ANYONE that stands against obama, gays, etc... they suddnely become the most important person in the lives of some.
It's hilarious, but it's cool. I'm sure mother jones and others will be out next week with "pizza shop owner campaigned twice for obama and did this or that", since this usually happens. Remember the "hero" cattelherder? Everyone donated to him too. He was just a deadbeat and his minions were requiring "papers" from those they illegally stopped lol.
What makes you think those people are "low-education"? I miss the part where you got the educational backgrounds of the people donating money to Memories Pizza.
This pizza owner didn't ask that woman from ABC 57 in South Bend to come to her store and interrogate her about serving a gay wedding.
At the end of the day, the left is just pissed because this woman was supposed to close up shop, tuck her tail between her legs, and slink away. Instead, about 30,000 folks, who've had enough of the gay activist goofies and their sympathizers bullying people who don't cater to their agenda, ponied up enough $$$$$ to keep this gal's pizza place afloat.
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What makes you think those people are "low-education"? I miss the part where you got the educational backgrounds of the people donating money to Memories Pizza.
This pizza owner didn't ask that woman from ABC 57 in South Bend to come to her store and interrogate her about serving a gay wedding.
At the end of the day, the left is just pissed because this woman was supposed to close up shop, tuck her tail between her legs, and slink away. Instead, about 30,000 folks, who've had enough of the gay activist goofies and their sympathizers bullying people who don't cater to their agenda, ponied up enough $$$$$ to keep this gal's pizza place afloat.
This whole gofundme angle really is a brilliant counter move to that agenda.
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You can't tell the difference between someone participating in an immoral act and commissioning a private business to participate in such, via its products. Methinks the "stupid and ridiculous" tag fits your arguments.
Oh brother... Let's take it from the top, shall we?
There's no rational explanation in a pizza store claiming that it can't sell a pizza to someone based on how the pizza will be used. All that matters is that one party has money and wants pizza and the other has pizza and wants money. To suggest that the way the pizza will be used makes a substantive difference in the calculus is just... well, stupid.
Of course, that's not to say that the pizza owner should be compelled to do business with anyone. If you had bothered to read any of my posts on here, you'd know I'm a libertarian and I do not want anyone acting against their own judgement. For that reason, I believe that laws against discrimination are immoral: if someone wants to discriminate, he should be allowed to.
So the pizza owner should, in fact, be able to refuse to sell pizza to anyone for any reason whatsoever or even for no reason at all. That I find his reasoning stupid or crazy or whatever isn't relevant, except as something for me to take into account when I go shopping for pizza.
What's next, forcing black-owned businesses to cater Klan rallies with nooses around the necks of black figurines?
Are you sure you don't have me confused with someone else?
Or, Christian bakeries forced to make cakes with sex toys for adult film festivals?
Again, I think you're confused. You may want to lay off the gay sex for a while and have a cake or two.
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Leave it to ABC to waste our time with this. I fucking detest ABC, and everything about it.
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Nobody claimed they actually turned down catering a gay wedding. A news reporter from a station in South Bend (ABC 57) went to that shop saw that store's Christian decorations and ASKED the owner (or co-owner) if they'd cater a gay wedding.
The left blew this story up, pure and simple. Notice how lefties believe this was legit, when they thought this woman and her store were going belly up.
But now that she and her store got nearly $1 million to keep her store afloat, all of a sudden it's made up; it's fake.
The only reason liberals are weeping and gnashing their teeth is because they didn't get the desired outcome (i.e. crushing another small business that wouldn't bow the knee to their 'gay rights' agenda).
The right wing media blew this story up
As you yourself mentioned on page 1 that The Blaze got the ball rolling and then of course Hannity and Rush fueled the flames
This phony story would have been a one day blip without the right wing christian persecution machine getting fired up
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The right wing media blew this story up
As you yourself mentioned on page 1 that The Blaze got the ball rolling and then of course Hannity and Rush fueled the flames
This phony story would have been a one day blip without the right wing christian persecution machine getting fired up
X2..whole thing was media hysteria.
Business as usual.
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this seems to be the smartest route to becoming wealthy instantly. Do something to piss off a minority group... Black, Gay etc...
Then say some shit about gun rights or religious freedom... and boom... toothless inbread closet racists send money..
Happened with Zimms, Officer Wilson, and now this...
Let's partner up and work it dude.
I'll be the evil internet bully.
You be overly sensitive to my posts with tons of feigned outrage (See Strawman's responses to Coach for examples).
The Plan: I start lots of bullying posts about you. You remain polite, yet highly offended.
We establish the GoFundMe account to help ease your feelings, get you counseling, and stick it to the bully.
We find some jackoff reporter to do up a 'story' where everybody relates to you as a victim.
In the end, our counselor - Lurker - helps you overcome adversity and helps me see the error of my ways.
We each get a 1/3 cut.
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Let's partner up and work it dude.
I'll be the evil internet bully.
You be overly sensitive to my posts with tons of feigned outrage (See Strawman's responses to Coach for examples).
The Plan: I start lots of bullying posts about you. You remain polite, yet highly offended.
We establish the GoFundMe account to help ease your feelings, get you counseling, and stick it to the bully.
We find some jackoff reporter to do up a 'story' where everybody relates to you as a victim.
In the end, our counselor - Lurker - helps you overcome adversity and helps me see the error of my ways.
We each get a 1/3 cut.
LOL - please post examples of his post and my so called feigned outrage
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The line "Take That, Fascists!" is the funniest part of it all.
They lack control over most things in their life. This gives them power they sorely lack and totally desire. "I finally showed those on the left that..." You didn't show anyone, anything. You demonstrated that a low-education person barely making ends meet is willing to drop $20 in the bucket so some owner of a pizza joint - with questions abound as to how the actual circumstances took place - can now retire with a million in the bank.
Only in america. I can't hate on the pizza people. Zimmerman made millions and he was a wife-beating obama voter. ANYONE that stands against obama, gays, etc... they suddnely become the most important person in the lives of some.
It's hilarious, but it's cool. I'm sure mother jones and others will be out next week with "pizza shop owner campaigned twice for obama and did this or that", since this usually happens. Remember the "hero" cattelherder? Everyone donated to him too. He was just a deadbeat and his minions were requiring "papers" from those they illegally stopped lol.
Thanks bro.
I thought the thread title had a nice little "kick" to it. 8)
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No, it's not. Per federal law, people can't be forced to participate in events that go against their religious beliefs. The libs made this law to exempt Native Americans from federal law that ban peyote (their version of weed), because it was part of their religious rituals.
Now, it's come back to bite them. Nobody has to be forced to use their products or services for events or actions that run counter to their beliefs.
But, of course, the left is too cowardly to pull the same crap on the Muslims that they did with the Christian owner of Memories Pizza.
Somebody needs to tell Rihanna that other people are doing the same thing, as far as living their lives is concerned.
In addition, Chris Brown's former punching bag might want to note that the law isn't anything new.
It is against the law...just not in Indiana anymore. What gets these bakeries in trouble is that they don't have any type of sign saying that they don't cater to gays or lesbians because they would be afraid of losing a shitload of business from the backlash. They will accept gay business when convenient.
You simply can't pick and choose your customers events. You run a bakery or flower shop...expect gay customers or find another business
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The right wing media blew this story up
As you yourself mentioned on page 1 that The Blaze got the ball rolling and then of course Hannity and Rush fueled the flames
This phony story would have been a one day blip without the right wing christian persecution machine getting fired up
Try that again. The ball was rolling long before the Blaze got it. And you're parroting the left's latest narrative to the tee. This story didn't become "phony" until liberals realized that store wasn't going to get boarded up and shut down, thanks to reportedly nearly $1 million in donations.
ABC 57 started it and the lefties on national media inflated it, as it hit ABC and CBS before the Blaze got to it.
Walkerton is at least 20 miles away from South Bend. What was that reporter's motivation to hit that pizza shop again?
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It is against the law...just not in Indiana anymore. What gets these bakeries in trouble is that they don't have any type of sign saying that they don't cater to gays or lesbians because they would be afraid of losing a shitload of business from the backlash. They will accept gay business when convenient.
You simply can't pick and choose your customers events. You run a bakery or flower shop...expect gay customers or find another business
No it's not against the law. Colorado just proved it by allowing a gay baker to refuse making cakes with "anti-gay" words and images on its wares. And you've already seen that ZILCH has happened to that Muslim bakery, who refused to do cakes with homosexual union imagery on it.
Merely serving gays a generic product or service is far different from using one's goods or services to endorse homosexuality. But by your logic, Jewish delis have to serve pickled pig feet; and black-owned barbecue joint have to cater Klan rallies or confederate flag festivals.
It isn't a hard concept to grasp for the left. Why do you think we have libs, constantly going after Rush Limbaugh's advertisers, trying to get him thrown off the air? They think that, by advertising on his show (or on local stations that air his show), these advertisers endorse his views.
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Let's partner up and work it dude.
I'll be the evil internet bully.
You be overly sensitive to my posts with tons of feigned outrage (See Strawman's responses to Coach for examples).
The Plan: I start lots of bullying posts about you. You remain polite, yet highly offended.
We establish the GoFundMe account to help ease your feelings, get you counseling, and stick it to the bully.
We find some jackoff reporter to do up a 'story' where everybody relates to you as a victim.
In the end, our counselor - Lurker - helps you overcome adversity and helps me see the error of my ways.
We each get a 1/3 cut.
I wanna be the bully.
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lol...sounds good.
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Pretty funny.
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No it's not against the law. Colorado just proved it by allowing a gay baker to refuse making cakes with "anti-gay" words and images on its wares. And you've already seen that ZILCH has happened to that Muslim bakery, who refused to do cakes with homosexual union imagery on it.
Merely serving gays a generic product or service is far different from using one's goods or services to endorse homosexuality. But by your logic, Jewish delis have to serve pickled pig feet; and black-owned barbecue joint have to cater Klan rallies or confederate flag festivals.
It isn't a hard concept to grasp for the left. Why do you think we have libs, constantly going after Rush Limbaugh's advertisers, trying to get him thrown off the air? They think that, by advertising on his show (or on local stations that air his show), these advertisers endorse his views.
No, they proved that it WASN'T discrimination against religion by not printing anti-gay words on a cake. Jewish Deli's don't have to serve pig feet because they DON'T CARRY PIG FEET.
As far as the Muslim bakery is concerned, someone has to go and sue them first....I'd doubt that would happen given the consequences.... ;D