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Title: Tren or Test?
Post by: Ronnie Rep on April 19, 2015, 09:18:08 AM

Which one would be more conducive to causing Gyno?

Title: Re: Tren or Test?
Post by: Jizmo on April 19, 2015, 10:15:39 AM

tren alone with zero test = no gyno ever
test alone = maybe gyno depending on dosages and if youre prone
test AND tren = higher chance of gyno than test alone

tren causes prolactin to rise. BUT prolactin needs estrogen to cause gyno issues.
no test = no estrogen = no prolactin issues
test = estrogen = maybe issues
test + tren = estrogen + prolactin = probably issues

Title: Re: Tren or Test?
Post by: pestosterone on April 19, 2015, 01:48:31 PM

Perfect fucking answer I must say... Now go read and figure out how to do this drugs without getting the sides Jizmo listed above

Title: Re: Tren or Test?
Post by: equipoise on April 19, 2015, 01:49:02 PM

Quote from: Jizmo on April 19, 2015, 10:15:39 AM

tren alone with zero test = no gyno ever
test alone = maybe gyno depending on dosages and if youre prone
test AND tren = higher chance of gyno than test alone

tren causes prolactin to rise. BUT prolactin needs estrogen to cause gyno issues.
no test = no estrogen = no prolactin issues
test = estrogen = maybe issues
test + tren = estrogen + prolactin = probably issues

I find that 19-nors by themselves do give me puffy nipples. Not gyno as such (no hard lumps or whatever), but nipples are still puffier. Once I use caber they go away. This is from my experience with using low dose test + high dose tren, and low dose test + high dose npp. Strangely, I don't get estro related gyno at all.

Title: Re: Tren or Test?
Post by: spiro on April 19, 2015, 04:19:52 PM

I'd use caber but I don't really think it's something smart to fool around with. Test tren masteron.

Title: Re: Tren or Test?
Post by: OTHstrong on April 20, 2015, 12:09:19 AM

Quote from: Jizmo on April 19, 2015, 10:15:39 AM

tren alone with zero test = no gyno ever
test alone = maybe gyno depending on dosages and if youre prone
test AND tren = higher chance of gyno than test alone

tren causes prolactin to rise. BUT prolactin needs estrogen to cause gyno issues.
no test = no estrogen = no prolactin issues
test = estrogen = maybe issues
test + tren = estrogen + prolactin = probably issues

someone has put good research to use  8) ^^^