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Title: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: whitewidow on April 21, 2015, 04:19:41 AM
OK who here has shot gear in their biceps or synthol and wich was less painfull and gave better results? seems with gear you would almost have to follow the synthol protocol and shoot them in 2 diffrent places on each bicep. Also what should I start out with? just basic Test cyp or sust? or something real thin like EQ or Masteron. wich is more worth it and cost effective?

also guys like boston say do the shots after you train is that just myth? I put EQ in my left bicep like 9 years ago just because it seemed like a easy injection site,their are just more nerves and veins makes it more complicated. If I'm really going to do nationals in 2 years I have to bring up my arms and figure out how to buy new Lat insertions-JK.
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: tatoo on April 21, 2015, 05:09:43 AM
I like 25g 1 inch darts... started out w 1 cc straight into the peak... never did anymore than 2.5cc worth of seo per shot.. I always liked it pre workout myself(then really pump the blood in there).. I don't use it for size, just for a better peak...
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: whitewidow on April 21, 2015, 05:30:24 AM
I like 25g 1 inch darts... started out w 1 cc straight into the peak... never did anymore than 2.5cc worth of seo per shot.. I always liked it pre workout myself(then really pump the blood in there).. I don't use it for size, just for a better peak...

That's what I was going to do- go with  a 25 gauge 1IN or 5/8th IN but that might not go in deep enough, actually I know it won't so did you use synthol or gear? so you didn't shoot into the bicep at each side angle you went right into the peak? or did you go at a angle and just hit more of the middle peak instead of doing both sides? not sure if you understood that right. hard to explain.
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: tatoo on April 21, 2015, 06:42:09 AM
I used synthol. hit a double bicep, marked the peak. then laid my arm out straight on a table, found where my bicep heads split and went straight in to the outer head, with arm still extended, as if the pin dropped from the ceiling. I made sure to avoid the big vein in the bi. it took me couple weeks to figure out where the application looked the best.
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: whitewidow on April 21, 2015, 06:53:37 AM
I used synthol. hit a double bicep, marked the peak. then laid my arm out straight on a table, found where my bicep heads split and went straight in to the outer head, with arm still extended, as if the pin dropped from the ceiling. I made sure to avoid the big vein in the bi. it took me couple weeks to figure out where the application looked the best.

OK that's exactly what I was wondering. damn!That looks painful when I look at my bicep especially if it were tight from training, I think I rather shoot with a slight angle.I don;t want to hit a vein or nerve.you sure that's how you suppose to do it or was just that your preference. I know it would cutt down on injections,My bicep seems way to hard to go directly into it like that.
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: Overload on April 21, 2015, 07:11:57 AM
I shoot 1-2 CC's in my biceps all the time.  Every now and then you hit a sensitive area and your arm will hurt for a few days.  I haven't noticed any significant changes to my biceps and i've been shooting them for 3 years.

Never tried Synthol.


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Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: whitewidow on April 21, 2015, 07:18:32 AM
I shoot 1-2 CC's in my biceps all the time.  Every now and then you hit a sensitive area and your arm will hurt for a few days.  I haven't noticed any significant changes to my biceps and i've been shooting them for 3 years.

Never tried Synthol.


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OK so you didn't get 1-2 Inches in a year? If I'm only going to get .5IN in a year that's pointless. I'll try the synthol or if I can afford it use alot of caverject wich makes you feel like shit but you will swell up a inch right away.I wouldn;t shoot caverject on your own find a prep guy who was a ex med student or medic. those caverject shots can go drastically wrong if not done right.
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: Jizmo on April 21, 2015, 08:05:51 AM
fuck injecting arms... way to many nerves and big veins there imo

i think i never sewered a nerve but i once hit the big ass thoractic (or whatever its called) artery in my front delt... just 1ml of test e

my whole shoulder turned black and blue and painful for a week and then yellow and green for about a week
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: whitewidow on April 21, 2015, 08:10:57 AM
fuck injecting arms... way to many nerves and big veins there imo

i think i never sewered a nerve but i once hit the big ass thoractic (or whatever its called) artery in my front delt... just 1ml of test e

my whole shoulder turned black and blue and painful for a week and then yellow and green for about a week


it was gear though correct? synthol has no hormone in it wich should make it pianless if you know how to inject it right gear would have more pain then synthol. I guess I'll order painless pumps.
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: nspaletta on April 21, 2015, 09:22:10 AM
I use 25g 1" with test suspension in my bis each arm 2x per week in the outer hear. You have a lot of nerves and veins that run through the inner head of the bi so I typically don't pin there often. If you do just seo then there is little to no pip, with gear like eq at a lower mg it will be the same pretty much so I would rather go eq over seo. But doing suspension has put over an inch in my bis in less then a month and that is after the swelling has gone down.
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: epcfitness on April 21, 2015, 09:47:49 AM
I want to try biceps as well as I'm getting good results shooting gear onto my delts and triceps (seo like effect)
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: Jizmo on April 21, 2015, 10:58:03 AM
it was gear though correct? synthol has no hormone in it wich should make it pianless if you know how to inject it right gear would have more pain then synthol. I guess I'll order painless pumps.
yeah i know... still you dont want synthol in your veins :P
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: BigRo on April 21, 2015, 11:25:07 AM
maybe focus on growing your arms in the gym rather than fake swelling?
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: AbrahamG on April 21, 2015, 03:56:37 PM
That's what I was going to do- go with  a 25 gauge 1IN or 5/8th IN but that might not go in deep enough, actually I know it won't so did you use synthol or gear? so you didn't shoot into the bicep at each side angle you went right into the peak? or did you go at a angle and just hit more of the middle peak instead of doing both sides? not sure if you understood that right. hard to explain.

Unless you have the arms of a fat, black woman, tell me how in the hell a 5/8 inch dart let alone a 1 inch dart wont go in deep enough.  I only inject with 25g 5/8 or 1 inchers.  Usually the 1 incher.  Quads and delts and it for sure is deep enough and working.  Years ago, we used slin pins for calves and delts, and no issues either.  I believe the "1.5 inch" theory is pure nonsense or myth.  Just my opinion.  Not attacking you.
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: OTHstrong on April 21, 2015, 09:40:03 PM
OK so you didn't get 1-2 Inches in a year? If I'm only going to get .5IN in a year that's pointless. I'll try the synthol or if I can afford it use alot of caverject wich makes you feel like shit but you will swell up a inch right away.I wouldn;t shoot caverject on your own find a prep guy who was a ex med student or medic. those caverject shots can go drastically wrong if not done right.
Assuming your bicep growth is close to maxed out 2 inches is not happening without synthol, 1 inch is possible with steady bicep shots but even then you would have to slowly build up the tolerance to 3cc per shot twice a week. I find eq and tren the easiest. I can do 1cc of each in a syringe per bicep but I have never gone past 2cc. with test 1cc and half is max for me, sustenon sucks for biceps for some reason.
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: whitewidow on April 22, 2015, 07:33:09 AM
Unless you have the arms of a fat, black woman, tell me how in the hell a 5/8 inch dart let alone a 1 inch dart wont go in deep enough.  I only inject with 25g 5/8 or 1 inchers.  Usually the 1 incher.  Quads and delts and it for sure is deep enough and working.  Years ago, we used slin pins for calves and delts, and no issues either.  I believe the "1.5 inch" theory is pure nonsense or myth.  Just my opinion.  Not attacking you.

I was talking about the 25 gauge 5/8th [pins being to small I would at least need a 25 gauge 1IN. NO my arms are rock hard and veiny. That's why I am a little suspect injecting them. I don't have great arm genetics,they do get veiny and rock hard but they don't grow past 17.5IN . The muscle belly looks fuller then it is but still a cold measure is 17.5IN.
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: Overload on April 22, 2015, 08:17:02 AM
OK so you didn't get 1-2 Inches in a year? If I'm only going to get .5IN in a year that's pointless. I'll try the synthol or if I can afford it use alot of caverject wich makes you feel like shit but you will swell up a inch right away.I wouldn;t shoot caverject on your own find a prep guy who was a ex med student or medic. those caverject shots can go drastically wrong if not done right.

I didn't notice much growth, if any.  I only inject each bicep once a week.  Need to shoot more often to see a good improvement.

I've seen a few guys who have some big ass arms use site injections with good results.  A guy i trained with a few years ago used to hit his bi's and tri's with 2cc of oil every day.  His arms were fantastic and you couldn't tell there was oil in there.


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Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: whitewidow on April 22, 2015, 08:28:28 AM
I didn't notice much growth, if any.  I only inject each bicep once a week.  Need to shoot more often to see a good improvement.

I've seen a few guys who have some big ass arms use site injections with good results.  A guy i trained with a few years ago used to hit his bi's and tri's with 2cc of oil every day.  His arms were fantastic and you couldn't tell there was oil in there.


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do you know what he was shooting in them and how exactly he did the injections I don;t really like tatoo's method of going straihgt down into the muscle belly if it works for him great! I'm thinking each arm would need 2 injections and if I did Tris maybe 4 injections in each arm.Id really like to have some arms bigger then 17.5IN 19IN mayby 20In would be sweet!
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: ritch on April 22, 2015, 09:07:44 AM
For what it's worth, I read not to shoot straight into the bicep. A bit on the side/top, going in at an angle.

I did this ONCE with synthol, not much experience but I did try it just once and scared the hell outta me.

Before the shot got spread out, I had this f'in bump that looked just like those synthol retards and was scared I ruined a muscle I had to business playing with as I don't need any there.

Anyway, I started doing curls to get the oil to spread out and it did, but FUUUCCKKKK, the pain it causes is too much for me. Could barely hold my gym bag. Was also working as a doorman and knew I could not defend myself or even escort a client out had something happened, lol!
 
The process is true meaning of being jacked and totally useless muscles, lol...
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: whitewidow on April 23, 2015, 01:51:17 AM
fuck I guess I'm fucked with 17In arms cold. at this age and all the shit I took they didn;t grow pst 17In cold. I might try the painless pumps. fuck 18.5  would be nice
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: xuul on April 23, 2015, 02:30:29 AM
how the fuck do you want to shoot the big head of the tri .
Im so unflexible or what? ... I want to try it but cant reach the big head lol
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: tatoo on April 23, 2015, 03:35:33 AM
how the fuck do you want to shoot the big head of the tri .
Im so unflexible or what? ... I want to try it but cant reach the big head lol

go in from underneath
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: whitewidow on April 23, 2015, 04:20:18 AM
For what it's worth, I read not to shoot straight into the bicep. A bit on the side/top, going in at an angle.

I did this ONCE with synthol, not much experience but I did try it just once and scared the hell outta me.

Before the shot got spread out, I had this f'in bump that looked just like those synthol retards and was scared I ruined a muscle I had to business playing with as I don't need any there.

Anyway, I started doing curls to get the oil to spread out and it did, but FUUUCCKKKK, the pain it causes is too much for me. Could barely hold my gym bag. Was also working as a doorman and knew I could not defend myself or even escort a client out had something happened, lol!
 
The process is true meaning of being jacked and totally useless muscles, lol...

I agree more with this method then tatoos. I mean if it worked for tatoo good for him,I'm sure it saved alot of injections and needle costs. I would not go straight into the muscle belly I would go at a bit of a angle on both sides.
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: whitewidow on April 23, 2015, 04:21:35 AM
go in from underneath

Tatoo what brand of synthol did you use? just basic painless pumps? also how many inches did you gain and how much did you keep?
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: tatoo on April 23, 2015, 05:27:36 AM
ive used esik clean, pump n pose, and painless pumps.. painless is a far better product imo.. I only use it in the summer months for the cosmetic effect.. gives me a nice peak and an extra half inch on the tape(off of 2.5-3cc per week in outer head).. ive never actually used it to build size per say or followed the size protocol.. 3 years ago my arms were 18.5, now their 20. my gear usage has been the same during the past 3 years. training the same also. the only thing different was the consistent use of hgh along w 10-30 ius of slin. give seo a shot pal. it maybe your answer. fuck, every pro uses it to some extent so im sure it works well for size too. as for keeping gains, they dissipate after a month w no shots, that's just me.
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: whitewidow on April 23, 2015, 05:37:41 AM
ive used esik clean, pump n pose, and painless pumps.. painless is a far better product imo.. I only use it in the summer months for the cosmetic effect.. gives me a nice peak and an extra half inch on the tape(off of 2.5-3cc per week in outer head).. ive never actually used it to build size per say or followed the size protocol.. 3 years ago my arms were 18.5, now their 20. my gear usage has been the same during the past 3 years. training the same also. the only thing different was the consistent use of hgh along w 10-30 ius of slin. give seo a shot pal. it maybe your answer. fuck, every pro uses it to some extent so im sure it works well for size too. as for keeping gains, they dissipate after a month w no shots, that's just me.

have you ever used real caverject(Nolotil). That should give you a inch within hours. I'll give the painless pumps. so you just shot into your bicep and a few shoulder shots? You didn;t shoot your triceps. I heard you have to shoot both to make it look nicer. any truth to that?
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: tatoo on April 23, 2015, 05:56:58 AM
have you ever used real caverject(Nolotil). That should give you a inch within hours. I'll give the painless pumps. so you just shot into your bicep and a few shoulder shots? You didn;t shoot your triceps. I heard you have to shoot both to make it look nicer. any truth to that?

no ive never tried nolotil.. its on my guys list tho.. only have used seo in bis n delts no tris... I supposed if youre are looking to add inches, id hit both sides providing you are somewhat symmetrical to begin with.  but take a look at yourself and judge how much you need and where. personally, my tris are good so I just hit bis and the delt shots give me a nice capped look.
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: whitewidow on April 23, 2015, 06:29:17 AM
no ive never tried nolotil.. its on my guys list tho.. only have used seo in bis n delts no tris... I supposed if youre are looking to add inches, id hit both sides providing you are somewhat symmetrical to begin with.  but take a look at yourself and judge how much you need and where. personally, my tris are good so I just hit bis and the delt shots give me a nice capped look.

who couldn't use more capped delts? It depends how lean I am. Right now Im into my cutt so yes I have some capped delts but they could be better and my arms just won't grow anymore! My triceps I am happy with but the tricep makes up 75% of the arm so why not shoot the whole package. I have some caverject(Nolotil) but the guy did warn me it is not very pleasant stuff to inject even though itdoes have lidocaine in it. I think you get a touch of a fever, Nolotil is more for competeition and best to have a medic or prep guy shoot it for you.


Synthol is a totally diffrent story it's way cheaper per shot and ca be used way longer. last question have you shot a thin oil like EQ or sust into your bi's or just synthol? if you have done both what was the pain level diffrence?
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: tatoo on April 23, 2015, 06:41:44 AM
who couldn't use more capped delts? It depends how lean I am. Right now Im into my cutt so yes I have some capped delts but they could be better and my arms just won't grow anymore! My triceps I am happy with but the tricep makes up 75% of the arm so why not shoot the whole package. I have some caverject(Nolotil) but the guy did warn me it is not very pleasant stuff to inject even though itdoes have lidocaine in it. I think you get a touch of a fever, Nolotil is more for competeition and best to have a medic or prep guy shoot it for you.


Synthol is a totally diffrent story it's way cheaper per shot and ca be used way longer. last question have you shot a thin oil like EQ or sust into your bi's or just synthol? if you have done both what was the pain level diffrence?

yes ive done tren, eq, test, tri blends and test suspension(one fuckin time cured me) in arms.. with gear I use a slin pin for bis and for seo a 25g 1 incher... no real pip issues with either. except for the suspension. sust wasn't too bad. seo pain is more of a tightness/stretched feeling rather than a "hurts to touch" type pain.
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: whitewidow on April 23, 2015, 06:50:29 AM
yes ive done tren, eq, test, tri blends and test suspension(one fuckin time cured me) in arms.. with gear I use a slin pin for bis and for seo a 25g 1 incher... no real pip issues with either. except for the suspension. sust wasn't too bad. seo pain is more of a tightness/stretched feeling rather than a "hurts to touch" type pain.

thanks for the info. I'll order some painless pumps but I'm also going to try shooting some thinner oils as well. I'll keep you guys posted.Tatoo I'll PM you if I have any questions I'm going to order it from dave palumbos site. would that be the best place to buy painless pumps? just looking for a fair price with fast shipping. I wouldn't buy HGH from dave but I think he has legit steril oil-lol.
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: tatoo on April 23, 2015, 06:55:46 AM
thanks for the info. I'll order some painless pumps but I'm also going to try shooting some thinner oils as well. I'll keep you guys posted.Tatoo I'll PM you if I have any questions I'm going to order it from dave palumbos site. would that be the best place to buy painless pumps? just looking for a fair price with fast shipping. I wouldn't buy HGH from dave but I think he has legit steril oil-lol.

feel free to pm me brother. ill help as much as I can. I get mine from painlesspumps.com $120 per bottle I think it is
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: whitewidow on April 23, 2015, 08:35:59 AM
feel free to pm me brother. ill help as much as I can. I get mine from painlesspumps.com $120 per bottle I think it is


Dave has it for I believe 100$ plus shipping. I'll contact you if I have any questions
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: xuul on April 23, 2015, 12:32:56 PM
in my opinion widow.

get some anadrol/dbol preworkout 80-100mgs , shot your arms 2 hours before , insulin preworkout , shake intra , shake post , eat meal , take another insulin and eat again.
this 2 times a week and your arms should grow I think.

never tried this before just my thoughts.
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: tatoo on April 23, 2015, 01:04:01 PM
in my opinion widow.

get some anadrol/dbol preworkout 80-100mgs , shot your arms 2 hours before , insulin preworkout , shake intra , shake post , eat meal , take another insulin and eat again.
this 2 times a week and your arms should grow I think.

never tried this before just my thoughts.


a good friend put a solid inch and a half on his arms in in 4-5 weeks by only training arms 2-3 times per week... no other bodyparts. he had been some sort of gear for almost 2 years at the time too. bodyweight never moved either. lol, and they haven't grown a millimeter since!!. he gets pissed when I break his balls about it.
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: OTHstrong on April 23, 2015, 03:40:03 PM
in my opinion widow.

get some anadrol/dbol preworkout 80-100mgs , shot your arms 2 hours before , insulin preworkout , shake intra , shake post , eat meal , take another insulin and eat again.
this 2 times a week and your arms should grow I think.

never tried this before just my thoughts.
Very accurate ^^^^
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: local hero on April 23, 2015, 04:39:19 PM
If your looking to gain inches its your triceps that hold the key, most people gave good sized biceps, the volume of your arm is triceps, specifically the long head

Noltil stings like fuck, leaves the muscle rock solid for at least a day... I've only ever used it pre contest, I suppose you could get a good deal of swelling if you used it pre workout regularly, doubt it would stay once you stopped tho

Unless your very lucky, site injecting with gear leaves you with weird swellings on you muscles, you can usualy spot it a mile off, altho if you have a lot if size it will be less evident
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: OTHstrong on April 23, 2015, 04:58:10 PM
If your looking to gain inches its your triceps that hold the key, most people gave good sized biceps, the volume of your arm is triceps, specifically the long head

Noltil stings like fuck, leaves the muscle rock solid for at least a day... I've only ever used it pre contest, I suppose you could get a good deal of swelling if you used it pre workout regularly, doubt it would stay once you stopped tho

Unless your very lucky, site injecting with gear leaves you with weird swellings on you muscles, you can usually spot it a mile off, altho if you have a lot if size it will be less evident
very few people can get away with triceps shots so no not ideal at all, 1.5 inches can be camouflaged without a trace in the bicep if done correctly whereas an inch on triceps is all you can get without distorted shape accumulation. Also the triceps bruises more and they are usually nasty. Of course advance bodybuilders do both triceps and biceps and usually in all the heads too
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: whitewidow on April 23, 2015, 06:01:57 PM
in my opinion widow.

get some anadrol/dbol preworkout 80-100mgs , shot your arms 2 hours before , insulin preworkout , shake intra , shake post , eat meal , take another insulin and eat again.
this 2 times a week and your arms should grow I think.

never tried this before just my thoughts.

I have done protocols like this. my insulin usage is posted. I use Humilin-R off-season. I'm getting lean right now so I'm off heavy aromatizing drugs. I'm taking alot of winstrol, 100mg morning workout,100mg night workout, finished my last box of NPP, I shoot a gram of sust a week ,daily 1cc Tren-A.I take diuretics at least twice a week, 80mcg clen, T3/T4 combo.

I do train arms everyday. I have my workout log posted, their rock hard and veiny just not as big as I would like. I think it's time to SEO them. I think Anadrol is a great choice when your dieted down to fill out but anadrol isn't going to put much on my arms maybe .5IN. the Tricep does make up 75% of the arm. so shooting the triceps as well would be beneficial.
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: OTHstrong on April 23, 2015, 11:55:58 PM
I have done protocols like this. my insulin usage is posted. I use Humilin-R off-season. I'm getting lean right now so I'm off heavy aromatizing drugs. I'm taking alot of winstrol, 100mg morning workout,100mg night workout, finished my last box of NPP, I shoot a gram of sust a week ,daily 1cc Tren-A.I take diuretics at least twice a week, 80mcg clen, T3/T4 combo.

I do train arms everyday. I have my workout log posted, their rock hard and veiny just not as big as I would like. I think it's time to SEO them. I think Anandrol is a great choice when your dieted down to fill out but anandrol isn;t going to put much on my arms maybe .5IN. the Tricep does make up 75% of the arm. so shooting the triceps as well would be beneficial.
Is there a particular reason for using diuretics twice a week?
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: whitewidow on April 24, 2015, 04:25:14 AM
Is there a particular reason for using diuretics twice a week?

kind of addicted to them. I like waking up real dry. I also was told it dosn't hurt to flush out with lasix or dyazide at least once a week. That or my prep guy is shit but he has me take a dyazide or lasix on friday and see what I look like saturday.I like them. I know I'm not 2 weeks out or anything but I'm going to practice peaking this year and do a show in 2 years. I really need to work on mandotorys and just come in super grainy and bone dry. I can show you what I look like off-season I don't allow myself to get to big. OTH only though
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: xuul on April 24, 2015, 05:13:06 AM
whats the recipe to make seo urself?
because they overprice the shit really
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: OTHstrong on April 24, 2015, 06:09:51 AM
kind of addicted to them. I like waking up real dry. I also was told it dosn't hurt to flush out with lasix or dyazide at least once a week. That or my prep guy is shit but he has me take a dyazide or lasix on friday and see what I look like saturday.I like them. I know I'm not 2 weeks out or anything but I'm going to practice peaking this year and do a show in 2 years. I really need to work on mandotorys and just come in super grainy and bone dry. I can show you what I look like off-season I don't allow myself to get to big. OTH only though
Ya love the look from diuretics after waking up,  a lot of people are doing it like you now. Diuretics and winny still kill everything else for that dry look
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: Jizmo on April 24, 2015, 06:19:58 AM
i think thats kind of asking for it, health wise... not a good thing imo
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: whitewidow on April 24, 2015, 06:26:12 AM
i think thats kind of asking for it, health wise... not a good thing imo

Once a week isn't bad even if your 12 weeks out. I know a popular prep coach who makes us all do this. Once a week usually friday we take dyazide and just see how dry we wake up and how we progressed over the week.Dyazide is getting popular
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: Jizmo on April 24, 2015, 09:51:42 AM
Once a week isn't bad even if your 12 weeks out. I know a popular prep coach who makes us all do this. Once a week usually friday we take dyazide and just see how dry we wake up and how we progressed over the week.Dyazide is getting popular

even once a week is pushing it imo.
im not THAT familiar with diuretics but in my opinion theyre pure poison, they completely throw off your bodys hydration management, minerals etc.

WW i like you and im not trying to piss on you, but imo this is just an ego thing...
put your ego back in the corner. lets be real here, nobody cares if you have 2 oz less water under your skin except yourself. not worth putting your body at risk - just what i think.

not trying to fuck with you man, but i dont think this is a good idea. its like ego lifting... youre probably gonna regret it sooner or later
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: OTHstrong on April 24, 2015, 10:34:14 AM
even once a week is pushing it imo.
im not THAT familiar with diuretics but in my opinion theyre pure poison, they completely throw off your bodys hydration management, minerals etc.

WW i like you and im not trying to piss on you, but imo this is just an ego thing...
put your ego back in the corner. lets be real here, nobody cares if you have 2 oz less water under your skin except yourself. not worth putting your body at risk - just what i think.

not trying to fuck with you man, but i dont think this is a good idea. its like ego lifting... youre probably gonna regret it sooner or later
In WWs case I think he is good to go, his body has adapted significantly as he is a user for a long time. Diuretics are potent and can pose potential dangers in 2 ways;

1. long term damage to organs and particularly the liver.... This will not be an issue unless its daily and year round, twice a week for 12 weeks in a year drastically brings the potential down.

2.  This is the most dangerous case where you go fatigue and just drop or severe cramping and you seize up or are light headed. This is not a long term effect or is not initiated by any previous use. It is simply taking a wrong term at that time, this is the chance you take ever single time you use diuretics.

Is WW at risk here??, no he is not because he is drinking water periodically and he is not at 5% bodyfat or lower, big difference between diuretics use at the end of the diet and not drinking water vs the way he is doing.



Now just cause I am saying WW knows what he is doing doesn't mean JIZMOs post wasn't excellent, diuretics are no joke. As a stage marshal who is on stage with bodybuilders at least a dozen times a year I have seen many drop right in front of me and even into my arms.
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: local hero on April 24, 2015, 02:38:54 PM
In WWs case I think he is good to go, his body has adapted significantly as he is a user for a long time. Diuretics are potent and can pose potential dangers in 2 ways;

1. long term damage to organs and particularly the liver.... This will not be an issue unless its daily and year round, twice a week for 12 weeks in a year drastically brings the potential down.

2.  This is the most dangerous case where you go fatigue and just drop or severe cramping and you seize up or are light headed. This is not a long term effect or is not initiated by any previous use. It is simply taking a wrong term at that time, this is the chance you take ever single time you use diuretics.

Is WW at risk here??, no he is not because he is drinking water periodically and he is not at 5% bodyfat or lower, big difference between diuretics use at the end of the diet and not drinking water vs the way he is doing.



Now just cause I am saying WW knows what he is doing doesn't mean JIZMOs post wasn't excellent, diuretics are no joke. As a stage marshal who is on stage with bodybuilders at least a dozen times a year I have seen many drop right in front of me and even into my arms.


Sounds hot and steamy.....

To be fair, when your in low digits, if you look at your self in the middle of the night when you get up to piss, youl look like a road map

Like wise this is amplified with a few glasses of wine.... Some people just like to ingest drugs just for the sake of it
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: OTHstrong on April 24, 2015, 02:44:55 PM

Sounds hot and steamy.....

To be fair, when your in low digits, if you look at your self in the middle of the night when you get up to piss, youl look like a road map

We all know WW likes to take drugs for the sake of it tho
>:(
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: whitewidow on April 24, 2015, 04:18:05 PM
well I just follow my prep coaches protocol. some weeks I don;t take any diuretics then some weeks I may take them once or even twice. Right now I have not taken diuretics in over a week because I only have 4 left and am saving them. What I am doing is not that crazy and alot of guys do it. once a month is of course alot safer it's actually not bad to flush your body out  bit. I drop more then a few ounces I would say I have to piss at least every 45 minutes when I take them. we do what it take and jizmo you know I told you I am practicing peaking

the guy I use is very well known. I mean we fuck with Insulin,clen,T3 and alot of tren. I'm one of those gym guys who carries a gallon jug of water around. The one drug I would never fuck with is DNP. they can't help you at the ER if you take too much DNP but a simple tab of dyazide is not going to cause as much harm as you think. If I was popping a shitload of them then yes that would be trouble. I'll def think about the subject more and since I'm not competing just practicing getting as lean and grainy as possible I think a tab of dyazide once every 10 days is sufficient.

there are a few benefits to using diuretics if you take them say once a month.
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: local hero on April 25, 2015, 01:03:47 AM
When you actually competing then, have you started your full prep?
Title: Re: Decided to start shooting my Biceps
Post by: whitewidow on April 25, 2015, 07:19:16 AM
When you actually competing then, have you started your full prep?

we will see. Right now I am just practicing peaking and seeing how lean my body will get without severely suffering. When my weight does go down while getting leaner I actually get stronger! I could probably grow into a show and do it well. I already did a huge blast off-season so the goal right now is just to get as lean as possible and just keep trying diffrent methods.

I never had the urge to compete because of the money that comes along with competing. I love bodybuilding and looking my best but really taxing my body and coming out of my pocket to tax my body makes no sense so if I can get lean early and stay lean I should like decent in about a year,most likely a year to 2 years. I want to win! not take second or top five I want the overall otherwise waste of time for me.