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They said he never faced a great wrestler...now he did. ..tko in the 2nd. The guys a great fighter..admit it. Plus he's irish ;)
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They said he never faced a great wrestler...now he did. ..tko in the 2nd. The guys a great fighter..admit it. Plus he's irish ;)
He delivered a TKO and that's what counts.
That said, Mendes took him down at will and if you were to ask a judge, both rounds 1 & 2 would have gone to Mendes, as he did the most damage (just prior to the TKO) in both rounds and landed multiple take downs.
Mendes took this fight on two weeks notice, so he obviously had no gas tank, as he didn't have time to get his conditioning down. But for a guy that only had 2 weeks to prep for a main event fight, he did incredibly well. Even McGregor stated in the post-fight press conference that the guy is the best wrestler in the division and hits very hard.
You give Mendes a full camp and they can easily come back for the win.
On the flip side, Connor clearly has heavy hands, but his style does look sloppy as shit. He towered over mendes and has an 8-inch reach advantage, so clearly he would have an advantage landing punches and controlling the distance.
Ultimately, he promised a 2nd round TKO and made good on that promise, so he talked the talk and delivered.
All that said, the Lawler and MacDonald fight was the true main event. Both of those guys are fucking animals and deserved all the accolades.
I think the Aldo vs McGregor fight should be interesting. Aldo is faster than McGregor, more accurate, has harder kicks and his ground game is amazing. I give the punching power to McGregor between the two, but besides that, nothing else. If I were a betting man, I'd say that Aldo purposely allowed this to go down in order to better prepare for McGregor and see what his tools and tendencies are.
If I were coaching Aldo, I'd plan to simply take McGregor to the ground every single round, keep him there and ground and pound him to death until he either goes limb or a submission becomes apparent.
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He delivered a TKO and that's what counts.
That said, Mendes took him down at will and if you were to ask a judge, both rounds 1 & 2 would have gone to Mendes, as he did the most damage (just prior to the TKO) in both rounds and landed multiple take downs.
Mendes took this fight on two weeks notice, so he obviously had no gas tank, as he didn't have time to get his conditioning down. But for a guy that only had 2 weeks to prep for a main event fight, he did incredibly well. Even McGregor stated in the post-fight press conference that the guy is the best wrestler in the division and hits very hard.
You give Mendes a full camp and they can easily come back for the win.
On the flip side, Connor clearly has heavy hands, but his style does look sloppy as shit. He towered over mendes and has an 8-inch reach advantage, so clearly he would have an advantage landing punches and controlling the distance.
Ultimately, he promised a 2nd round TKO and made good on that promise, so he talked the talk and delivered.
All that said, the Lawler and MacDonald fight was the true main event. Both of those guys are fucking animals and deserved all the accolades.
I think the Aldo vs McGregor fight should be interesting. Aldo is faster than McGregor, more accurate, has harder kicks and his ground game is amazing. I give the punching power to McGregor between the two, but besides that, nothing else. If I were a betting man, I'd say that Aldo purposely allowed this to go down in order to better prepare for McGregor and see what his tools and tendencies are.
If I were coaching Aldo, I'd plan to simply take McGregor to the ground every single round, keep him there and ground and pound him to death until he either goes limb or a submission becomes apparent.
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Why cant Shizzo make posts like this about MMA?
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aldo's takedowns are not that impressive.
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I like McGregor, was hoping a beatdown for Aldo, but this with Mendes looked like a fix...
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Why cant Shizzo make posts like this about MMA?
He's retarded
He know nothing about MMA
He's retarded
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MacGregor looked like an amateur who's never taken a wrestling/BJJ class in his life. If Mendes doesn't take the payoff and stand in front of Mac waiting to get hit in the face, the Mac Hype Train is derailed to the tune of $20M dollars. Gee, why did Mendes seem so happy to lose after the fight.
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on getbig everything is a conspiracy
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He delivered a TKO and that's what counts.
That said, Mendes took him down at will and if you were to ask a judge, both rounds 1 & 2 would have gone to Mendes, as he did the most damage (just prior to the TKO) in both rounds and landed multiple take downs.
Mendes took this fight on two weeks notice, so he obviously had no gas tank, as he didn't have time to get his conditioning down. But for a guy that only had 2 weeks to prep for a main event fight, he did incredibly well. Even McGregor stated in the post-fight press conference that the guy is the best wrestler in the division and hits very hard.
You give Mendes a full camp and they can easily come back for the win.
On the flip side, Connor clearly has heavy hands, but his style does look sloppy as shit. He towered over mendes and has an 8-inch reach advantage, so clearly he would have an advantage landing punches and controlling the distance.
Ultimately, he promised a 2nd round TKO and made good on that promise, so he talked the talk and delivered.
All that said, the Lawler and MacDonald fight was the true main event. Both of those guys are fucking animals and deserved all the accolades.
I think the Aldo vs McGregor fight should be interesting. Aldo is faster than McGregor, more accurate, has harder kicks and his ground game is amazing. I give the punching power to McGregor between the two, but besides that, nothing else. If I were a betting man, I'd say that Aldo purposely allowed this to go down in order to better prepare for McGregor and see what his tools and tendencies are.
If I were coaching Aldo, I'd plan to simply take McGregor to the ground every single round, keep him there and ground and pound him to death until he either goes limb or a submission becomes apparent.
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spot on buddy if mendes had a full camp he would have dominated that fight.
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so he need a full camp not to gas in the first round? his conditioning must be awful
i can see it now, team alpha male, all they do is sit around all day eating french fries and watcing old bay watch episodes
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He delivered a TKO and that's what counts.
That said, Mendes took him down at will and if you were to ask a judge, both rounds 1 & 2 would have gone to Mendes, as he did the most damage (just prior to the TKO) in both rounds and landed multiple take downs.
Mendes took this fight on two weeks notice, so he obviously had no gas tank, as he didn't have time to get his conditioning down. But for a guy that only had 2 weeks to prep for a main event fight, he did incredibly well. Even McGregor stated in the post-fight press conference that the guy is the best wrestler in the division and hits very hard.
You give Mendes a full camp and they can easily come back for the win.
On the flip side, Connor clearly has heavy hands, but his style does look sloppy as shit. He towered over mendes and has an 8-inch reach advantage, so clearly he would have an advantage landing punches and controlling the distance.
Ultimately, he promised a 2nd round TKO and made good on that promise, so he talked the talk and delivered.
All that said, the Lawler and MacDonald fight was the true main event. Both of those guys are fucking animals and deserved all the accolades.
I think the Aldo vs McGregor fight should be interesting. Aldo is faster than McGregor, more accurate, has harder kicks and his ground game is amazing. I give the punching power to McGregor between the two, but besides that, nothing else. If I were a betting man, I'd say that Aldo purposely allowed this to go down in order to better prepare for McGregor and see what his tools and tendencies are.
If I were coaching Aldo, I'd plan to simply take McGregor to the ground every single round, keep him there and ground and pound him to death until he either goes limb or a submission becomes apparent.
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I think he manhandled him really, he was walking him down with his hands by his sides. He said he would ko him within 4 minutes, not in the second.
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there's two opinions now
1. the fight was fixed
2. mendes accepted the fight 20 minutes earlier, getting the call when he was at burger king and with a full camp bla bla he wouldve won
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spot on buddy if mendes had a full camp he would have dominated that fight.
Full camp or not, Chad Mendes is the best wrestler in the division. He took Conor down multiple times and was unable to stop him.
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someone unwilling to stand and fight will always be looked upon as a lesser man than someone who is.
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McGregor ??? ???
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I was really divided on who to root for going into this fight until I seen Mendes continually attempt the old take down and hump method.
Boring.
I quickly found myself rooting for McGregor in this match.
All trash talking antics aside, he is by far the most exciting fighter in the division.
Being able to see McGregor and Lawler fight on the same card was an absolute treat.
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yes lets not forget this is suppose to be entertainment, its not the olympics...
unfortunately there's a shitload of wrestlers who never made it to the olympics so they try the next best thing to get a real job, they go to the ufc... but the entertainment factor is missing cause they never done anything in their lives but wrestle eachother...
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I did think that every time Mendes took McGregor down, you barely heard a peep out of Rogan. It's as if Mendes did nothing in the fight if you listen to the announcers. Thought that was really strange. McGregor eating elbows on the ground and no excitement out of Rogan whatsoever...Anyone who wants to cry fix, watch the fight again and listen to the announcers. Because they certainly didn't want Mendes to win this fight.
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rogan:
"he gets him down nicely done"
"beautiful shot by chad"
"beautiful right hand"
"can he pass the guard, yes he can
very bad position for conor"
"chad mendes looking for a guilotine"
"looking to trap the neck"
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rogan:
"he gets him down nicely done"
"beautiful shot by chad"
"beautiful right hand"
"can he pass the guard, yes he can
very bad position for conor"
"chad mendes looking for a guilotine"
"looking to trap the neck"
Fucked up that angle. So let's try another.
Why do the "fix" dummies even watch this shit? Same thing with the O - fuckers figure out all their CTs before the event even goes down, then use whatever sticks. What a boring, pointless existence.
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My take on the fight:
Mendes was able to wrestle Conor to the ground by utilising his unquestionably superior technique. He stayed busy and landed some excellent shots, however Conor was continually talking trash and didnt for a moment look like he was even close to being stopped. He knows hes not competitive from his back but he was getting shots off when he could.
Mendes made the mistake Conor was waiting for and when it came down to a fist fight, clearly there was only 1 winner. Mendes looked uncharacteristically gassed obviously, however why is nobody acknowledging the admission by Conor that he was practically in bits before the fight? He gets absolutely no credit for winning because Mendes had a short camp, it was a quick stoppage, it was a fix...
He turned up, got the job done even with multiple current injuries and now awaits Aldo. I say job well done.
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People aren't giving Conor due credit for that beautiful guillotine escape, and as for the stoppage Chad Mendes himself has not said it was early. He turtled up and stopped defending, so fight over. The same thing happened in the co-main. Rory turtled up and stopped defending, and the ref stopped it. No one is calling that an early stoppage.
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So I'm confused??? Do MMA fighters not train year round? Do they just sit around doing nothing waiting for a call? ???
I don't follow the sport, but I think it is stupid when people are saying that he "only had 2 weeks to train for fight". He is a PROFESSIONAL fighter. It is his profession. He should be ready to go at any notice.
If I am way off the mark here, just call me a dumbass and carry on.
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it depends. but in this case with mendes id say he's pretty much ready to go, he doesnt have to travel from the other side of the world, it isnt one of those high altitude fights like werdum fought with cain, he dont train specificially against the conor type but the gameplan would pretty much look the same - taking him to the ground. he made weight. he does get hit quite a lot in the first round to the body.
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With 2-3 weeks of training; Mendes should not have been winded during the 2nd round.
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It's amusing to see how some people get so fixated over seeing Connor lose. I've been pretty neutral as far as whether Connor wins or loses. During the Connor - Aldo promotion I didn't favor either to win I wanted to see a good matchup and may the best man win. I could care less about the trash talking or lack of for publicity's sake. Once the Connor train started rolling I was pretty fascinated by the amount of work he put in to get to where he is in two years.
Connor was always pretty open about the fact that he wanted to be the PPV king and be the biggest draw. Around the time he beat Poirier he started bring up the PPV numbers and his plan to start influencing them. Last night he accomplished that and raised the stakes for everyone else on that card. Everyone on that card benefited from his presence. Those who were getting PPV points did better. Those who are trying to build their own presence got a nice boost. One of the reasons the UFC high ups give him so many opportunities (putting him up in Vegas, access to the UFC gym, getting to dictate his own on camera presence) is because he delivers. He's proven to be a good investment so far. Dana stated that when the Aldo fight happens he expects that event to be an even bigger draw.
There are a few parallels between Arnold and Connor (since this is a BB board). Both are cocky and arrogant self assured in their pursuit of their goals. Both frequently bring up the importance of visualizing success before it happens. Connor showed up in a suit to the event as if he was attending a press conference. When Buffer announced him he stepped into the center as though HE was the champ. All the gimmicks he pulled off during the publicity tour, his trash talking in the ring, etc. In his mind he was the champ and had already won. We've all seen Arnold's narrations in pumping iron. Striking similarities. Connor is however observed as being very respectful when the camera's are not on. When the lights go on and the curtain draws back its showtime. Those of us who grew up in the traditional martial arts era value the"'quiet champion who lets his fists do the talking" stereotype. His on stage antics don't sit right with me most times but I understand what and why he's doing it.
He's also got the work ethic. While training for the biggest fight / test of his career he's also devoted a significant amount of time to build up the hype a la Sonnen. While Aldo played the quiet / respectful champ role. Connor kept raising the stakes to make the event into a bigger spectacle (read bigger PPV figures) He played a perfect "heel" role except he's getting over " especially with the Irish viewers. There were several comments thrown around yesterday about an American(Mendes)getting more boo's than a foreigner. He mentioned at the post fight press conference how he only spent 19 days at home (if that's really true)and the rest of the year was spent traveling and doing promotions. He jokingly mentioned how sick he was of the constant media pressures but he always showed up because he understood that that was what he had to do to reach his goals. Arnold frequently remarked how his competitors always had a serious expression in the gym while he always had a smile on his face. That's another guy who loved what he did and understood that pain is temporary in the pursuit of goals.
Am I a Connor fan? I'm a fan of his work ethic as I'am of Arnold's work ethic. His trash talk /publicity stunts don't appeal to me but I get it. Success comes at a price and both are fully prepared to pay that price. I'm inspired by that. When its all said and done what he's accomplished so far in such a short time is amazing.
When McGregor - Aldo happens I'll have the same viewpoint. I want the best man to win in the end and I don't plan on jeering either one of them - win or lose.
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So I'm confused??? Do MMA fighters not train year round? Do they just sit around doing nothing waiting for a call? ???
I don't follow the sport, but I think it is stupid when people are saying that he "only had 2 weeks to train for fight". He is a PROFESSIONAL fighter. It is his profession. He should be ready to go at any notice.
If I am way off the mark here, just call me a dumbass and carry on.
Chad Mendes does train year-round. He's with Team Alpha Male ::) and trains with Uriah Faber.
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taking a page outta onemorerep's whole page post :o
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So I'm confused??? Do MMA fighters not train year round? Do they just sit around doing nothing waiting for a call? ???
I don't follow the sport, but I think it is stupid when people are saying that he "only had 2 weeks to train for fight". He is a PROFESSIONAL fighter. It is his profession. He should be ready to go at any notice.
If I am way off the mark here, just call me a dumbass and carry on.
You're right. He is a professional fighter and should be ready to go whenever an opportunity comes up. If we've learned anything in the past two years is that big fights get postponed more frequently as of late due to injuries. That is a perfect opening and an opportunity to take advantage to move up the rankings and get paid.
Chael got a lot of hate when he stepped in to take on Jones. Never mind the fact that he had a very slim chance of winning (on paper) he stepped in and took the opportunity when people who were ranked above him turned down the fight when Dan got injured. Sonnen fought at a heavier weight with barely a training camp (not that it would have helped much anyway) because he understood the importance of taking opportunities when they arise. I'm sure he made a significant payday as a result. Rick Roufus mentioned how Pettis got a call while they were at a barbeque asking him to step in for an injured fighter. Pettis (who is injury prone) immediately said yes, put down the pizza and went for a run to prepare for the weight cut.
Chad saw an opportunity as well He stepped up and took the fight because win or lose he understood the huge opportunity he got. I think everyone on the roster should be ready to go if/when they get a call. If they choose to sit out and wait for another opportunity/ perfect fight it may never materialize.
Fortune favors the bold.
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taking a page
Pun intended? ;D
I'm just chilling at home. lounging outside enjoying the sun...and destroying my keyboard.
Hell..it doesn't take me very long to ramble and write a dissertation analysis.
Got some friends coming over later to watch last nights UFC PPV so I get to bore more people with my "analysis". :D :D
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Pun intended? ;D
I'm just chilling at home. lounging outside enjoying the sun...and destroying my keyboard.
Hell..it doesn't take me very long to ramble and write a dissertation analysis.
Got some friends coming over later to watch last nights UFC PPV so I get to bore more people with my "analysis". :D :D
I was very surprised by Conor's chin.
Taking good shots from Mendes and just walking back and talking shit at the same time. :)
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I was very surprised by Conor's chin.
Taking good shots from Mendes and just walking back and talking shit at the same time. :)
Yeah mendes was throwing with nasty intentions and he connected a few times. Connor did have a reach advantage which he used to keep chad away while they were standing but on the ground Mendes threw some nasty elblows/punches.
Connor seemed to have some beserker blood like Robbie lawler does. Takes heavy shots and keeps on smiling.
Indomitable will
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I'm not crazy about the guy's personality. It's like he is trying to be an Irish Muhammad Ali, but he isn't Ali. The whole brash loudmouth thing seems kind of forced IMHO. Great fighter, obviously.
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Yeah mendes was throwing with nasty intentions and he connected a few times. Connor did have a reach advantage which he used to keep chad away while they were standing but on the ground Mendes threw some nasty elblows/punches.
Connor seemed to have some beserker blood like Robbie lawler does. Takes heavy shots and keeps on smiling.
Indomitable will
That reach advantage + big left hand really sets him apart from the rest of the division.
That 8 inch disadvantage was just completely unfair, although Mendes did get a few licks in there.
I don't know how much longer Conor will be able to make 145 pounds but I would love to see another 2 or 3 years of entertaining fights at Featherweight.
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I'm not crazy about the guy's personality. It's like he is trying to be an Irish Muhammad Ali, but he isn't Ali. The whole brash loudmouth thing seems kind of forced IMHO. Great fighter, obviously.
The trash talk does seem orchestrated
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its gonna play out like a movie.
rory gets beaten by lawler,
gsp returns to avenge rory and beats up lawler in the final scene.
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That reach advantage + big left hand really sets him apart from the rest of the division.
That 8 inch disadvantage was just completely unfair, although Mendes did get a few licks in there.
I don't know how much longer Conor will be able to make 145 pounds but I would love to see another 2 or 3 years of entertaining fights at Featherweight.
Yeah. I have to wonder how the striking exchange between Aldo and connor would have ended up. Aldo is as precise if not more than connor. Connor will have a reach advantage again with Aldo but Aldo presents a more dangerous striker advantage with nasty kicks of his own. It would have been an awesome event had it took place.
One thing that sounded weird was the bruised rib story. Dana insisted that it was a bruised rib and apparently the xrays sent indicated the rib was broken but last night Dana went back to the bruised rib story. Wonder what the real story is.
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So I'm confused??? Do MMA fighters not train year round? Do they just sit around doing nothing waiting for a call? ???
I don't follow the sport, but I think it is stupid when people are saying that he "only had 2 weeks to train for fight". He is a PROFESSIONAL fighter. It is his profession. He should be ready to go at any notice.
If I am way off the mark here, just call me a dumbass and carry on.
Dumbass
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Yeah. I have to wonder how the striking exchange between Aldo and connor would have ended up. Aldo is as precise if not more than connor. Connor will have a reach advantage again with Aldo but Aldo presents a more dangerous striker advantage with nasty kicks of his own. It would have been an awesome event had it took place.
One thing that sounded weird was the bruised rib story. Dana insisted that it was a bruised rib and apparently the xrays sent indicated the rib was broken but last night Dana went back to the bruised rib story. Wonder what the real story is.
Maybe the Irishman is getting into his head and he's getting cold feet?
Remember how Ali was able to get Liston worked up before their big fight?
We were discussing a few weeks ago who was the best p4p out of Silva, Cain(right before he lost) and Aldo.
I picked Aldo and even with that being said my gut is telling me McGregor is going to be able to kayo Aldo.
I think Conor gets into his head so deep during the pre-fight leading up and then come fight time the match stays on the feet and Conor uses psychology, the reach advantage, punching power and the ability to absorb some of Aldo's shots and we'll be looking at a 4 to 5 round slugfest with McGregor putting him away via strikes in the corner.
Now, IF Aldo can hit those legs consistently ala Urijah Faber we are talking about a different discussion. 8)
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Maybe the Irishman is getting into his head and he's getting cold feet?
Remember how Ali was able to get Liston worked up before their big fight?
We were discussing a few weeks ago who was the best p4p out of Silva, Cain(right before he lost) and Aldo.
I picked Aldo and even with that being said my gut is telling me McGregor is going to be able to kayo Aldo.
I think Conor gets into his head so deep during the pre-fight leading up and then come fight time the match stays on the feet and Conor uses psychology, the reach advantage, punching power and the ability to absorb some of Aldo's shots and we'll be looking at a 4 to 5 round slugfest with McGregor putting him away via strikes in the corner.
Now, IF Aldo can hit those legs consistently ala Urijah Faber we are talking about about a different discussion. 8)
To take a page from connor's statements - the more efficient man will win.
Connor's approach was the old fighters tactic - to make Aldo scared or mad.
Scaring Aldo is not going to work but making him mad is definitely doable.
Mad enough to get reckless and open himself up to counterattacks.
Both are representing their countries but the pressure is mostly on Aldo since he has more to lose given his reputation to date.
Hopefully we will see the both of them square down with minimal injuries.
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Ultimately, he promised a 2nd round TKO and made good on that promise, so he talked the talk and delivered.
This is the 'final word', and all that needs to be said. McGregor delivers.
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This is the 'final word', and all that needs to be said. McGregor delivers.
As the head of deliverance I approve of this statement. :D
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pro & cons:
* Mendes is always training.. he just didn't go into a full fighting camp.
* The changing for an opponent can also be vary the fight, if Mcgregor would've trained for a wrestler from the beginning maybe it would be harder to take him down?(which Mendes acknowledge it)
I still think Mcgregor would've won if both have equal fighting camp from the beginning, Mcgregor is to precise with his punches & has a much better efficiency approach than Mendes. Those bodyshots were hurting Mendes bad in the fight which made him gas much earlier than thought..
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To take a page from connor's statements - the more efficient man will win.
Connor's approach was the old fighters tactic - to make Aldo scared or mad.
Scaring Aldo is not going to work but making him mad is definitely doable.
Mad enough to get reckless and open himself up to counterattacks.
Both are representing their countries but the pressure is mostly on Aldo since he has more to lose given his reputation to date.
Hopefully we will see the both of them square down with minimal injuries.
That plus McGregor is HUNGRY while Aldo has not lost a fight in around 10 years.
If Mendes is capable of busting up Aldo like this, what is a guy like McGregor capable of?
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/26/1414326810325_wps_28_RIO_DE_JANEIRO_BRAZIL_OCT.jpg)
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That plus McGregor is HUNGRY while Aldo has not lost a fight in around 10 years.
If Mendes is capable of busting up Aldo like this, what is a guy like McGregor capable of?
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/26/1414326810325_wps_28_RIO_DE_JANEIRO_BRAZIL_OCT.jpg)
Mcgregor is better on his feet then both aldo and mendes, it's not close. He is a national boxing champion and throws his punches with no effort. Aldo, is more explosive, but conor looked gigantic against chad and seemed to walk through his shots, he had his hands down chasing him at points.
His spinning heel kicks to the guts hurt him right away, from the first kick right at the bell.
Someone with wrestling and elite jiu jitsu would be his hardest test, I don't think he will lose on his feet in an exchange with aldo, mendes punches sent him flying and dropped him. Conor took an elbow and then an overhand and asked him if it's all he had. He really should be in the 155 pound division, he cuts so much weight.
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Mcgregor is better on his feet then both aldo and mendes, it's not close. He is a national boxing champion and throws his punches with no effort. Aldo, is more explosive, but conor looked gigantic against chad and seemed to walk through his shots, he had his hands down chasing him at points.
His spinning heel kicks to the guts hurt him right away, from the first kick right at the bell.
Someone with wrestling and elite jiu jitsu would be his hardest test, I don't think he will lose on his feet in an exchange with aldo, mendes punches sent him flying and dropped him. Conor took an elbow and then an overhand and asked him if it's all he had. He really should be in the 155 pound division, he cuts so much weight.
He reminds me alot of Tommy The Hitman Hearns with his reach advantage, punching power and that left hand that can send anybody in the division down with one shot. So fluid and crisp with his strikes. Those kicks were brutal.
And to your second point, that was the talk going into this last match... "Mendes would potentially be a tougher matchup for McGregor" Well, we all seen the result of that little experiment. Wrestling champ couldn't do anything with him on the ground beside exchange shots and was kayoed in the second round. McGregor knew they were going to be stood up eventually and then the fight becomes incredibly one sided. He was there for a 5 round fight and Mendes clearly wasn't.
Conor did Mendes a favor by putting him away so early. Once he got up from that last takedown, the fight was over. Mendes was completely gassed and it's very unlikely he would have been able to secure a takedown against a much fresher McGregor.
A fatigued Mendes unable to secure a take down against McGregor in the 3rd would have been completely embarrassed in front of the whole world.
Conor did him the biggest favor in the world by putting him out of his misery.
I think some people are putting way too much stock in Mendes' winning that first round. As I stated earlier it was a 5 round fight and McGregor knew going in he would wear him down with body shots and eventually Chad would crumple like a house of cards.
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Lots of people like to talk about Aldo's black belt in BJJ. On paper, you would think that it could pose a problem for Conor.
What many people don't notice, is that Aldo does not have a submission victory in all of his fights with the WEC/UFC.
As people have pointed out earlier, Mendes beat Aldo to a pulp in the rematch, and McGregor is far more technical striker than Mendes.
Look for Aldo to work on McGregor's obvious weakness on the ground. Wouldn't be surprised to see a few submission attempts.
Depending on the outcome of that fight, we might begin to see a Jon Jones type advantage with Conor in the featherweight division.
Reach advantage is an awesome weapon for someone who uses it wisely.
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Lots of people like to talk about Aldo's black belt in BJJ. On paper, you would think that it could pose a problem for Conor.
What many people don't notice, is that Aldo does not have a submission victory in all of his fights with the WEC/UFC.
As people have pointed out earlier, Mendes beat Aldo to a pulp in the rematch, and McGregor is far more technical striker than Mendes.
Look for Aldo to work on McGregor's obvious weakness on the ground. Wouldn't be surprised to see a few submission attempts.
Depending on the outcome of that fight, we might begin to see a Jon Jones type advantage with Conor in the featherweight division.
Reach advantage is an awesome weapon for someone who uses it wisely.
Conor needs to back off the taunting and focus on striking/defense during the bout. Mendes exploited that quite a bit. Maybe cool it with those front check-kicks, too.
Reminds me of how Hughes would get pummeled every time he got too relaxed and nonchalant on his feet. Dudes figure out you're momentarily slipping and take advantage.
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So I'm confused??? Do MMA fighters not train year round? Do they just sit around doing nothing waiting for a call? ???
I don't follow the sport, but I think it is stupid when people are saying that he "only had 2 weeks to train for fight". He is a PROFESSIONAL fighter. It is his profession. He should be ready to go at any notice.
If I am way off the mark here, just call me a dumbass and carry on.
mendes said himself that he could easily break conor mcgregor, he also said that he is ready year round, he stays ready year round and was happy like a child in christmas when he got the fight.
conor said that it doesn't matter who they put in front of him because if you're a true champion it shouldn't matter. Conor is the superior fighter, at least that night he was.
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conors ego could never make weight no matter what the weight class
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I doubt that Mendes only had a 2 week camp....Dana probably has back-up fighters lined up in case someone withdraws.....These guys probably do a regular camp and wait for a call...Mendes looked very fit and made weight...
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Lots of people like to talk about Aldo's black belt in BJJ. On paper, you would think that it could pose a problem for Conor.
What many people don't notice, is that Aldo does not have a submission victory in all of his fights with the WEC/UFC.
As people have pointed out earlier, Mendes beat Aldo to a pulp in the rematch, and McGregor is far more technical striker than Mendes.
Look for Aldo to work on McGregor's obvious weakness on the ground. Wouldn't be surprised to see a few submission attempts.
Depending on the outcome of that fight, we might begin to see a Jon Jones type advantage with Conor in the featherweight division.
Reach advantage is an awesome weapon for someone who uses it wisely.
It's probably the same "BJJ black belt" as the one owned by JDS, honorary maybe? I like McGregor, but as someone already said, all the trash talking is orchestrated, just like with Overeem and everyone else... I'd like to see him against the Korean Zombie, one of my top favorite fighters, when he returns from the military... But now Aldo next...
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I watched about 2 mins of this fight and it's pretty clear mendez was *sparring*
this kid will get smashed badly, unless aldo takes the money too :)
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MacGregor looked like an amateur who's never taken a wrestling/BJJ class in his life. If Mendes doesn't take the payoff and stand in front of Mac waiting to get hit in the face, the Mac Hype Train is derailed to the tune of $20M dollars. Gee, why did Mendes seem so happy to lose after the fight.
you're joking right? Mendes was just happy for a piece of the Pie bro. $500,000 to show and PPV bonus made him millions. I'd be happy to lose for that kind of money too.
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looks like rory took another beating...
Champ Robbie Lawler: $300,000 (includes $150,000 win bonus)
def. Rory MacDonald: $59,000
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looks like rory took another beating...
Champ Robbie Lawler: $300,000 (includes $150,000 win bonus)
def. Rory MacDonald: $59,000
I saw that. Hopefully MacDonald's contract is up soon, so he can negotiate a nice raise. He should be getting at least 100K per fight.
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i guess he did get fight of the night bonus or something like that he needs it for his rhinoplastic
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looks nasty... but lawlers face was half blue after the fight as well. Brutal fight!
(http://usatmmajunkie.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/rory-macdonald-robbie-lawler-ufc-189-hospital.jpg)
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i guess he did get fight of the night bonus or something like that he needs it for his rhinoplastic
Well, under the new Reebok deal, which began for UFC 189, MacDonald should have been paid 30,000 dollars as a title challenger.
Robbie got 40,000 from Reebok for being the champion.
That's obviously in addition to what they make per fight.
Edit: Just read that MacDonald is one of the few fighters that have signed individual sponsorships with Reebok. It says that fighters with an individual sponsorship, will be afforded an increased level of influence over their attire. That would include a custom walkout shirt among other things.
I'm assuming that Reebok would also give him a % of sales from his custom gear that is sold.
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Full article on the Reebok deal with the UFC can be found here:http://www.the42.ie/ufc-reebok-deal-reaction-2088809-May2015/ (http://www.the42.ie/ufc-reebok-deal-reaction-2088809-May2015/)
Here is the basic pay breakdown:
The Reebok money will be distributed based on each fighter’s tenure with the UFC:
1-5 bouts — $2,500 per fight
6-10 bouts — $5,000 per fight
11-15 bouts — $10,000 per fight
16-20 bouts — $15,000 per fight
21 bouts or more — $20,000 per fight
Title challengers — $30,000 per title fight
Champions — $40,000 per fight
It also states that guys like McGregor, who have an individual deal with Reebok, will make much more than fighters who aren't individually sponsored.
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Mendes was on paper the worst possible match up for Conor.
But look what happened. As they faced off in the octagon before the fight started. Conor said "let's see who takes a step back now", referring back to the weighings where he was held back by Dana. Watch Mendes demeanor completely change in less than a second. Conor won the fight right then and there.
BTW Conor is crazy. Just look at him in that fight. And complete disregard for the strikes from his opponent.
And who keeps fixing their hair in a fight, while stalking down your opponent.
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looks nasty... but lawlers face was half blue after the fight as well. Brutal fight!
(http://usatmmajunkie.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/rory-macdonald-robbie-lawler-ufc-189-hospital.jpg)
How on earth was Lawler losing that fight? Said he was down on all cards before the TKO. To me, only lost the 3rd, maybe 4th, but dominated one and two.
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How on earth was Lawler losing that fight? Said he was down on all cards before the TKO. To me, only lost the 3rd, maybe 4th, but dominated one and two.
yeah maybe, but he fought with a broken nose the entire fight and couldn't breath mouth closed, in the 5th the pain was too much to handle and he went down from a jab.
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yeah maybe, but he fought with a broken nose the entire fight and couldn't breath mouth closed, in the 5th the pain was too much to handle and he went down from a jab.
Exactly, because Robbie crushed him the first two rounds. Point was, judges had Lawler LOSING until the TKO, which is bullshit.
Totally lost third, bell saved him. and I'm fuzzy on the fourth, though I remember Rory pummeling him with elbows again early on. Forget if Robbie turned that one around.
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Lawler vs Rory was Psychopath vs Psychopath.
(http://giant.gfycat.com/FakeExaltedIchthyostega.gif)
They are both really awkward all the time and talk like naive children. Fucken weird people.
looks nasty... but lawlers face was half blue after the fight as well. Brutal fight!
(http://usatmmajunkie.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/rory-macdonald-robbie-lawler-ufc-189-hospital.jpg)
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He is very well liked here in Ireland.
A number of my friends travelled to watch the fight.
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They said that MacDonald also suffered a fractured foot to go along with the fractured nose :-X
No wonder his body gave out.
Ugly, sometimes the judges don't go by visual damage given out. It appears that MacDonald landed more significant strikes in the fight.
I'll give you a perfect example: Aldo vs. Mendes 2......... Mendes did far more visual punishment to Aldo, but Aldo had a big advantage in significant strikes landed. That's what led to Aldo winning by unanimous decision, even though his face looked like hamburger meat.
In this fight, both men were visually damaged, but Rory simply landed more.
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rogan:
"he gets him down nicely done"
"beautiful shot by chad"
"beautiful right hand"
"can he pass the guard, yes he can
very bad position for conor"
"chad mendes looking for a guilotine"
"looking to trap the neck"
Everything you just wrote is true. But watch the fight again and listen to Rogan's voice. He didn't raise his voice once talking about all the things you listed above. As soon as McGregor did anything, Rogan voice was brought up to another level. He was downplaying with his voice everything Mendes did.
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Fucked up that angle. So let's try another.
Why do the "fix" dummies even watch this shit? Same thing with the O - fuckers figure out all their CTs before the event even goes down, then use whatever sticks. What a boring, pointless existence.
And Donald Trump is a mole for the Dems 8)...
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Fucked up that angle. So let's try another.
Why do the "fix" dummies even watch this shit? Same thing with the O - fuckers figure out all their CTs before the event even goes down, then use whatever sticks. What a boring, pointless existence.
And Donald Trump is a mole for the Dems 8)and Mike OHearn is juiced to the gills...
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Everything you just wrote is true. But watch the fight again and listen to Rogan's voice. He didn't raise his voice once talking about all the things you listed above. As soon as McGregor did anything, Rogan voice was brought up to another level. He was downplaying with his voice everything Mendes did.
Ah, volume, tone, and inflection, well played.
You're really quite good at this.
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They said that MacDonald also suffered a fractured foot to go along with the fractured nose :-X
No wonder his body gave out.
Ugly, sometimes the judges don't go by visual damage given out. It appears that MacDonald landed more significant strikes in the fight.
I'll give you a perfect example: Aldo vs. Mendes 2......... Mendes did far more visual punishment to Aldo, but Aldo had a big advantage in significant strikes landed. That's what led to Aldo winning by unanimous decision, even though his face looked like hamburger meat.
In this fight, both men were visually damaged, but Rory simply landed more.
worthless commentary. stop...
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so the fight was fixed and the evidence is the tone of joe rogans voice?
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worthless commentary. stop...
exactly, rory fell down helpless and wasn't able to get back up, he didn't know where he even was. Lalwer was the better man, NUF said.
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exactly, rory fell down helpless and wasn't able to get back up, he didn't know where he even was. Lalwer was the better man, NUF said.
Some people need some reading comprehension skills. No shit Lawler finished Rory off, nobody is debating the stoppage or the fact that Lawler won. The question was how could Rory be ahead 3-1 on every judges scorecard going into the 5th.
I said the judges were probably favoring Rory, because he landed more significant strikes up until that point. In fact, even after Lawler beat Rory up in the 5th, MacDonald still finished the fight with more significant strikes.
I was stating that scoring isnt based on the physical appearance of a fighter. You can get cut or swollen from one hit.
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McGregor is the King. Haters gonna hate.
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Some people need some reading comprehension skills. No shit Lawler finished Rory off, nobody is debating the stoppage or the fact that Lawler won. The question was how could Rory be ahead 3-1 on every judges scorecard going into the 5th.
I said the judges were probably favoring Rory, because he landed more significant strikes up until that point. In fact, even after Lawler beat Rory up in the 5th, MacDonald still finished the fight with more significant strikes.
I was stating that scoring isnt based on the physical appearance of a fighter. You can get cut or swollen from one hit.
Never understood scoring, too arbitrary. I mean, Lawler connected with everything for the first two. Hard to imagine anything Robbie hits you with isn't significant, especially when we saw Rory's face.
Rory destroyed him in the third - thought for sure he'd put him down with those elbows, but Lawler survived, and so on. Just seems so random to say x was more significant than y, when they both appear equally hurt by their respective pummelings.
Also, is that even part of a judge's criteria: significant strikes, power punches, etc., or are you just imagining how it might be swaying each's scorecard?
Shit, in boxing, seems Floyd rarely ever lands with much "significance," just outpoints everyone. Do we not do points in MMA?
Like I said, I'm clueless here.
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Never understood scoring, too arbitrary. I mean, Lawler connected with everything for the first two. Hard to imagine anything Robbie hits you with isn't significant, especially when we saw Rory's face.
Rory destroyed him in the third - thought for sure he'd put him down with those elbows, but Lawler survived, and so on. Just seems so random to say x was more significant than y, when they both appear equally hurt by their respective pummelings.
Also, is that even part of a judge's criteria: significant strikes, power punches, etc., or are you just imagining how it might be swaying each's scorecard?
Shit, in boxing, seems Floyd rarely ever lands with much "significance," just outpoints everyone. Do we not do points in MMA?
Like I said, I'm clueless here.
Definition of significant strikes: significant strikes refer to all strikes at distance and power strikes in the clinch and on the ground. It does not include small, short strikes in the clinch and on the ground. Those will be included in the Total Strikes category.
According to the fight statistics, Rory MacDonald landed 86 significant strikes compared to Lawler's 70. So Rory had 16 more sig. strikes than Lawler for the entire fight, which means he probably had a bigger advantage than 16 before Lawler beat him up in the 5th.
They say that the judges score the bouts based on "effective striking, grappling, and Octagon control". Maybe they felt that MacDonald was more of the aggressor in the earlier rounds IE stalking Lawler down etc.......
There must have been something that the judges were agreeing on/seeing to all have MacDonald up 3-1 going into the 5th.
I still believe there is room for subjectivity in the scoring system, which is why we have seen some absolutely terrible decisions over the years.
Just take your boy Lawler for example. He should have beat Hendricks the first time and lost the rematch, but it turned out the exact opposite.
Each judge also seems to have individual tendencies when it comes to scoring a fight. They said that two of the judges put more than normal value on active head jabs, which they said favored MacDonald. Judges can also put different weight to missed strikes as well as how tight you lock up a submission.
So maybe MacDonald lucked up, and got paired with three judges who tend to score fights that favor his fighting style more than Lawler's.
That's why they always say that you never want to leave the fight in the hands of the judges :-X Robbie made sure that didn't happen this time.
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Well, shit, that's not arbitrary at all. Thank you, sir.
Still, though, was this one fixed like Conor/Mendes?
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Well, shit, that's not arbitrary at all. Thank you, sir.
Still, though, was this one fixed like Conor/Mendes?
I don't want to believe that any fights are fixed. Way too much of a risk to ruin the entire sport of MMA forever. I know that Pride supposedly had that scandal with the Yakuza or whatever.......but America doesn't play that shit.
If it was ever found out that the UFC had fixed bouts, then it would fold immediately, and never be taken seriously again. Too many people would have to be in on it, and it simply could not be kept a secret.
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Rory the day after the fight
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I don't want to believe that any fights are fixed. Way too much of a risk to ruin the entire sport of MMA forever. I know that Pride supposedly had that scandal with the Yakuza or whatever.......but America doesn't play that shit.
If it was ever found out that the UFC had fixed bouts, then it would fold immediately, and never be taken seriously again. Too many people would have to be in on it, and it simply could not be kept a secret.
It was pretend. Just mocking the dummies.
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That's why they always say that you never want to leave the fight in the hands of the judges :-X Robbie made sure that didn't happen this time.
Oh brother ::)
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Rory the day after the fight
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Damn wonder if he will be the same after that beat down. I'm glad Lawler won I'm a big fan but if Rory would of layed it all on the line when he had him hurt he might of been able to put him away. Seems his coaches want him to point fight most of the time.
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Damn wonder if he will be the same after that beat down. I'm glad Lawler won I'm a big fan but if Rory would of layed it all on the line when he had him hurt he might of been able to put him away. Seems his coaches want him to point fight most of the time.
Two rounds in I thought Hendricks would take it in the last fight and basically the same with Rory in this one but one thing i've come to learn about Robbie....that dude is the consummate finisher. Kinda reminds me of Meldrick Taylor vs. Chavez....Taylor was up on the cards and all that but Chavez was steadily accumulating good shots and ended up getting the kayo victory at the end. He wore the other man down.
If you are in a 25 minute fight with Robbie Lawler you may win the first 15 minutes but the last 10 will be absolute brutality because that sonovabitch is not giving up.
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Two rounds in I thought Hendricks would take it in the last fight and basically the same with Rory in this one but one thing i've come to learn about Robbie....that dude is the consummate finisher. Kinda reminds me of Meldrick Taylor vs. Chavez....Taylor was up on the cards and all that but Chavez was steadily accumulating good shots and ended up getting the kayo victory at the end. He wore the other man down.
If you are in a 25 minute fight with Robbie Lawler you may win the first 15 minutes but the last 10 will be absolute brutality because that sonovabitch is not giving up.
Ya I love the guy I hope he gets more love now.