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So looking at it from an outsiders point of view it seems that his popularity is growing daily. As an Australian, looking in, it seems like everyone hates Obama.
When I asked my USA buddies about Trump, early on, everyone said he would never get up as the party would't allow it. Everyone was talking Jeb Bush. Now I haven't heard Bush's name in weeks and Trump is everywhere. His lack of political correctness is really refreshing and he obviously has a plan + business brain.
If I was there and he made selection, I would definitely vote for him. He seems about as opposite to Obama as you could get.
Thoughts???
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it seems like everyone hates Obama.
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Absolutely not. Zero chance.
I will cover all bets. ALL. Trump can not win the general election.
He's a bafoon. He was given $200,000,000 from his dead father and he was bankrupt in less than five years. He's a compulsive, serial liar. He would steal trillions if given the presidency. Putin x 10000.
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Forgive Tim. He likes to pull up graphs and charts that fit his argument. If you take a poll in oppressed areas of the country (ie; Baltimore, Ferguson, etc) and then take a poll from young university students and recent graduates then he a hero. But if you're in let's say Orange Co. Then he's not even welcome. As a matter of fact, he has no business being in this county. Personally I wouldn't trust him to watch my kids while I took 5 min to run across the street to the store. Dude bows to communist leaders.
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No way would Trump be accepted at world meetings between other presidents, it's laughable to even think about it.
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Forgive Tim. He likes to pull up graphs and charts that fit his argument.
Yeah, facts have a well-known liberal bias.
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Yeah, facts have a well-known liberal bias.
Liberal and facts should never be mentioned in the same sentence.
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wicked gif!!!
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Donald Trump is a rude, abrasive, typical no class New Yorker.
In 1970 he had a "Job" with his father that netted him 200 thousand in 1970's US Dollars (a million in today's money).
This is supposed to be the corner stone of his real estate empire.
It is his reputation that:
- He sets up a company with himself as head
- He sucks out as much money as he can for himself
- When it has gone on as long as it can, the company declares bankruptcy
- Since it is the company going into bankruptcy, Trump is unaffected
It is his reputation that he has done this 4 times.
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Dude bows to communist leaders.
lots of president bow. even to bad guys.
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So looking at it from an outsiders point of view it seems that his popularity is growing daily. As an Australian, looking in, it seems like everyone hates Obama.
When I asked my USA buddies about Trump, early on, everyone said he would never get up as the party would't allow it. Everyone was talking Jeb Bush. Now I haven't heard Bush's name in weeks and Trump is everywhere. His lack of political correctness is really refreshing and he obviously has a plan + business brain.
Republicans believe Bill Clinton convinced Trump to run. Clinton wanted a mess in the GOP primary so hilary could coast into the nomination. and if trump wins, all the better, since polls with independents are TERRIBLE for trump, even today.
it was a shrewd political move by the clintons, stacking the deck. Putting in a ringer. The repubs did it in a US Senate seat with Alvin Greene, a broke dude facing sex crime charges who magically received the ten grand to run.
both camps admit they talked but won't admit nothing more than "bill encouraged him to further his role in the party, but didn't say he should run". Well, your wife is already running, Trump is already considering it - why do you make that call? Of course they'll both deny the reason.
ANyway, the trump story is a fascinating one. We'll see how far repubs will go to defend the lifetime democrat, even as he now hates on fox news.
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It is all very interesting to us. You see you Americans are very patriotic and all have very strong political opinions.
In Australia, for the most part no one gives a fuck about politics, voting or patriotism. We are very laid back here and most of the population pretty much hate government leaders.
I think that's why rockstar type world leaders like Putin and Trump get our attention.
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Hillary or Trump. I'll have to go with Trump. Think of all the top quality gash he's gotten over the years. That has to count for something.
Hillary is an old bag carpet muncher. Actually, so is Trump.
Jeb Bush seemed like a true politician with his answers. At least Trump isn't a canned puppet. Doesn't mean he'll be a good president, but consider Obama...a lot of people thought he'd be great.
Trump has the biggest name of anyone running and is the most noticeable. On popularity alone, he wins.
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My two degrees of separation to Donald Trump: When the gay marriage ruling happened, Donald was asked about his views. He mentioned that he had attended a gay wedding. That wedding was of Jordan Roth and Richie Jackson in September of 2012. I dated Jordan Roth in 2000. (He broke up with me, but we remained friends, although I didn't get invited to the wedding, but I'm in LA and he's in NYC. And I'm not bitter.)
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Trump has the biggest name of anyone running and is the most noticeable. On popularity alone, he wins.
but he's crazy. i mean, i could see him shoving a leader or something during debates lol. Spitting or throwing a drink. Calling another president's wife a whore or something.
Trump lacks self control on a scary scale lol. If you asked "which person in the race might get mad one day and set off ten nukes in Antarctica just to piss everyone off", it'd be Trump.
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My two degrees of separation to Donald Trump: When the gay marriage ruling happened, Donald was asked about his views. He mentioned that he had attended a gay wedding. That wedding was of Jordan Roth and Richie Jackson in September of 2012. I dated Jordan Roth in 2000. (He broke up with me, but we remained friends, although I didn't get invited to the wedding, but I'm in LA and he's in NYC. And I'm not bitter.)
I've attended gay weddings as well. They are friends. Doesn't mean I agree with it. What's your point again?
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but he's crazy. i mean, i could see him shoving a leader or something during debates lol. Spitting or throwing a drink. Calling another president's wife a whore or something.
Trump lacks self control on a scary scale lol. If you asked "which person in the race might get mad one day and set off ten nukes in Antarctica just to piss everyone off", it'd be Trump.
I disagree. Trump is an act. He has no intention to go the distance. He has no patience to run a massive bureaucracy for 4 or 8 years. If he were to win the nomination, he'd pick a really good (moderate) VP and resign within his first year in office.
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I've attended gay weddings as well. They are friends. Doesn't mean I agree with its. What's your point again?
That you have three degrees of separation from Donald Trump: you -> me -> my ex -> trump
but how do you attend a wedding between a same sex couple when you don't think the government should recognize same sex marriage? Do you cross your fingers behind your back when you wish them happiness?
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I disagree. Trump is an act. He has no intention to go the distance. He has no patience to run a massive bureaucracy for 4 or 8 years. If he were to win the nomination, he'd pick a really good (moderate) VP and resign within his first year in office.
Trump is probably the biggest mystery of 2015. WTF is he doing? which party is he really helping?
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Lucky the rest of the world doesn't get to vote or Trump would win hands down. He has charisma and is definitely not a puppet.
Hilary looks like a bitter old never was (Opposite to has been).
Once again from an outsiders point of view, I thought Bill Clinton was a fantastic president. Even now I love hearing him speak and have watched some amazing interviews that he did over the years.
Go Trump!
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That you have three degrees of separation from Donald Trump: you -> me -> my ex -> trump
but how do you attend a wedding between a same sex couple when you don't think the government should recognize same sex marriage? Do you cross your fingers behind your back when you wish them happiness?
Because regardless of what they stand for or who they are they're still friends. They're good people. We just have a difference of opinion. They know that I know that yet I was still invited. Tim, I've said MANY times that I couldn't careless if they get married or not (even though because of religious beliefs I don't agree) as long as they don't push it on me, my kid or family I will wish them happiness. I've also said I have gay friends that are conservative that think overdoing the rainbow thing, especially on the White House, was an embarrassment. Face it, something's are over done and people are tired of having it shoved down their throat (definitely no pun intended).
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Coach, 240, Tim, Tommy and everyone else comments.
It is really fascinating to watch from here. In fact it is Sunday night and Trump is of the national news here, offending another female reporter. His Rosie O'Donnell comments made the news here as well as all the Mexican stuff.
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I've attended gay weddings as well. They are friends. Doesn't mean I agree with it. What's your point again?
Would love to attend a gay wedding with you. :P
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Coach, 240, Tim, Tommy and everyone else comments.
It is really fascinating to watch from here. In fact it is Sunday night and Trump is of the national news here, offending another female reporter. His Rosie O'Donnell comments made the news here as well as all the Mexican stuff.
Trump is killing everyone because people are sick of the pc crap. It's killing this country. I've said it loooooong ago. If you're in corporate America and you tell a female "that dress looks nice" or "you look nice today" you could find yourself fired and up on sexual harassment charges. It's that ridiculous.
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Would love to attend a gay wedding with you. :P
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Trump is killing everyone because people are sick of the pc crap. It's killing this country. I've said it loooooong ago. If you're in corporate America and you tell a female "that dress looks nice" or "you look nice today" you could find yourself fired and up on sexual harassment charges. It's that ridiculous.
Can't even say that a national tv anchor (presenter) must have been on her period without then being disinvited from a misogynist's right wing meet and greet.
(Trump, Megyn Kelly, Erick Erickson, RedState.com)
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how high are the Obama approval ratings right now?
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Trump is capitalizing on the idiot base mobilized by the GOP in the past. It turns out these people are so crazy they cannot be controlled even by their own party.
the elections are largely decided by the public relations industry. If the networks decide to get rid of him he will go away...so far this has not happened. enjoy the show.
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Ive always liked Trump, have read some of his books, watched his shows etc... He is a great and successful businessman no doubt about it. And I was very excited to see him run as president, as he cuts through the bullshit and speaks the truth. He really does want to see America do great again, and I defintly think he could do it in many certain areas. But he is NOT Presidential material as he lacks class, integrity and most importantly - diplomacy. These are all very important qualites to have as a president, and Trump certaintly has none of them - which is sad, because if he did have them - he would do absolutely great!
My predictions is that Trump will never get the nominee, but being the stubborn man that he is - he will run as third party. He has A LOT of supporters, and who knows what will happen after that. In any case, I think Hillary will be the next president no matter what. Unless her popularity has gone down due to her dishonest actions and crimes, I think she has this in the box.
My 2 cents.
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Love Trump but I don't think he will win.
It's better to have Shill-ary winning so that the US collapses - after that it's time for a restart. I don't think that there's any candidate who wants to steer the sinking ship into another direction as they are indebted to big business and "philanthropists"/internationalists.
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Ive always liked Trump, have read some of his books, watched his shows etc... He is a great and successful businessman no doubt about it. And I was very excited to see him run as president, as he cuts through the bullshit and speaks the truth. He really does want to see America do great again, and I defintly think he could do it in many certain areas. But he is NOT Presidential material as he lacks class, integrity and most importantly - diplomacy. These are all very important qualites to have as a president, and Trump certaintly has none of them - which is sad, because if he did have them - he would do absolutely great!
My predictions is that Trump will never get the nominee, but being the stubborn man that he is - he will run as third party. He has A LOT of supporters, and who knows what will happen after that. In any case, I think Hillary will be the next president no matter what. Unless her popularity has gone down due to her dishonest actions and crimes, I think she has this in the box.
My 2 cents.
That is a pretty good summary, thank you. I have always liked him as well. Like most people, I think PC has gone too far. So let me tell you, the world is watching Trump with interest. I think he will have diplomacy when he needs it, should he get in.
Looking from a far, it would seem Obama got in because he got the black vote and obviously Hilary is milking the sisterhood to be the first female president.
Go Trump!
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Trump would be the absolute worst choice as President. He's already an egomaniac, imagine if he had the presidency....that would be dangerous.
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Trump said he's now leading by triple digits.
Um...
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how high are the Obama approval ratings right now?
46%
http://www.gallup.com/poll/116479/barack-obama-presidential-job-approval.aspx
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Can't even say that a national tv anchor (presenter) must have been on her period without then being disinvited from a misogynist's right wing meet and greet.
(Trump, Megyn Kelly, Erick Erickson, RedState.com)
But he didn't say that Tim.
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But he didn't say that Tim.
coach,
do you believe that trump statement that he was talking about her 'nose' and not her period?
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coach,
do you believe that trump statement that he was talking about her 'nose' and not her period?
Why not? Why would I think otherwise? Because the media said so?
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But he didn't say that Tim.
listen for yourself. His inflection tells you exactly what his meaning was. http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/08/politics/donald-trump-cnn-megyn-kelly-comment/
"Well, I just don’t respect her as a journalist. I have no respect for her. I don’t think she’s very good. I think she’s highly overrated. But when I came out there—you know, what am I doing, I’m not getting paid for this—I go out there, and you know, they start saying lift up your arm if you’re gonna… And you know I didn’t know there’d be 24 million people. I knew it was going to be a big crowd, because I get big crowds, I get ratings. They call me the ratings machine. And she gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions. You know, you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her (pause) wherever. In my opinion, she was off base. And by the way, not in my opinion—in the opinion of hundreds of thousands of people on Twitter because it has been a brutal day. In one way, a great day for Fox. In another way, in the Twittersphere, it’s been very bad, because she’s been very badly criticized. (Crosstalk) Hey, she’s a lightweight. I couldn’t care less about her. In fact, you’re competing against her and I’m doing your show."
as far as Erick Erickson
you have to love the irony of erick erickson disinviting Trump when Erickson has said the worst things about women - never dull, huh? - Greta Van Susteren.
https://twitter.com/greta/status/630378347328094208
Why not? Why would I think otherwise? Because the media said so?
that's the thing. the media may alert us to some thing, but most of us then go and find the original information and judge for ourselves.
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Why not? Why would I think otherwise? Because the media said so?
a lot of people that aren't in the media thought so too. Believe me, I'm loving trump being in the race just cause it's so interesting. I don't want him to leave in disgrace in August 2015, I want to see him entertaining us all the way to the ballots.
I guess what I'm saying is... if I had to bet the rent check on "nose" or a period reference, the common sense side of me says trump was making a period joke. He used the wink/nod method, and he didn't use the word 'vagina'. But I highly doubt the word 'nose' somehow eluded a man as loquacious as trump. He's great with words, and when he uses 'whatever', it's because he wants to imply something, not because he cannot recall the word.
Surely, I like trump in the race, if only to call out the idiots like perry trying to be Tea Party RINOs.
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listen for yourself. His inflection tells you exactly what his meaning was. http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/08/politics/donald-trump-cnn-megyn-kelly-comment/
Tim,
There are some getbiggers on the political board (not coach) that still believe Herman Cain was framed by 14 women for sexual harassment. Some still believe he only admitted it (when all the texts and receipts were produced) to protect the lying accuser. Some still believe Clinton never got a BJ. Some still believe Reagan *honestly* didn't remember all of those things with iran contra.
Trump could have pointed at his crotch and made a squishy noise with his mouth, but unless he uses the word "vagina", some folks will always stand by 'lawyerball' with how he didn't TECHNICALLY use the word, so...
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Trump will start WW3. Can just picture him telling Putin or China's leader to shut up in some meeting while pointing at them. He will be assassinated if he by some fluke actually wins.
I'm hesitant to even say this as if it happens, this post is posted...
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I think Trump could win.
We've seen crazier things before in US politics.
Jimmy Carter claimed to have seen a UFO and filed a complaint back in 1973.
Lyndon Johnson was known as a womanizing alcoholic.
Bill Clinton cheated on his wife and furthermore lied to the entire nation.
Abraham Lincoln was a hypocrite. He was against slavery, but stood firm on the notion that blacks should not have equal rights to whites.
Ronald Reagan was a fucking actor.
George Bush Jr. was the dumbest president in all of American history. He could barely develop coherent thoughts, let alone form sentences.
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I think Trump could win.
We've seen crazier things before in US politics.
Jimmy Carter claimed to have seen a UFO and filed a complaint back in 1973.
Lyndon Johnson was known as a womanizing alcoholic.
Bill Clinton cheated on his wife and furthermore lied to the entire nation.
Abraham Lincoln was a hypocrite. He was against slavery, but stood firm on the notion that blacks should not have equal rights to whites.
Ronald Reagan was a fucking actor.
George Bush Jr. was the dumbest president in all of American history. He could barely develop coherent thoughts, let alone form sentences.
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This.
It's amazing how politics are so polarizing. It really seems as if people blindly support political parties.
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Nope, he has pissed off women, Latinos, and war vets. :-\
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Nope, he has pissed off women, Latinos, and war vets. :-\
they're allowed to vote???
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He won't win..
He won't get the republican party vote.. nomination...
Even if he could win the popular vote..
He won't get the electoral vote.. similar to AL Gore..
Trump is too much of a ego maniac..
Him in power will be the extinction of the human race..
He would probably start a nuclear war when he offends Russia, China, Iran or north Korea... :-X
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Nope, he has pissed off women, Latinos, and war vets. :-\
Trump can win the nomination despite this. He has a huge base of supporters that didn't serve, that hate mexicans, that think period jokes are funny. And "some men just want to watch the world burn - they'd rather see a crazy ex-lib call names and throw verbal bombs, than 10 lawyers onstage debating legislation politely.
Polls show he is HUGELY unpopular with moderates/ independents/ swing voters. BUT he is still very popular with the BASE of the republican party. And he can spend a billion dollars on advertising, or just plain paying people to show up in close states to vote for his ass lol. His "get out the vote" campaign can be epic. And, the other sane (yet less interesting) candidates have to split up the vote. Trump gets ALL of the crazy vote, and the base of either party is pretty crazy at times.
Trump CAN win this nomination before his inevitable self-destruction. Bill Clinton encouraged Trump to run, and now we see why. heavyweight Jeb should be shitting all over hilary in speeches, but he's too busy defending himself against low-blow Trump attacks.
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No way would Trump be accepted at world meetings between other presidents, it's laughable to even think about it.
In the past decades other "world leaders" never had any problems shaking hands and doing business with human rights violating dictators who robbed and tortured their own population....
Compared to them, Trump is a choirboy
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In the past decades other "world leaders" never had any problems shaking hands and doing business with human rights violating dictators who robbed and tortured their own population....
Compared to them, Trump is a choirboy
I never thought of that and you make a good point. But I bet Trump would just blurt shit out that would really hurt the US relation wise.
Sure the guys you mention did bad stuff, but if not mistaken, they were never caught for it. Just stuff everyone knows but can't prove. I could be wrong though, if so, after insulting me, lol, let me know why.
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Trump will behave like Valdimir Putin on Anadrol.
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I never thought of that and you make a good point. But I bet Trump would just blurt shit out that would really hurt the US relation wise.
Sure the guys you mention did bad stuff, but if not mistaken, they were never caught for it. Just stuff everyone knows but can't prove. I could be wrong though, if so, after insulting me, lol, let me know why.
US government does or did business with just about every sadistic leader on the planet. So the other way around will be no problem.
US politicians (in public) consider Pakistan, afghanistan, Egypt, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia "allies"....
Trump is a blessing, I have no idea what he stands for but that's irrelevant as politicians never do what they promise.
I am disgusted by the corrupt Bush clan, and thing that one Clinton was enough, although Hillary would be a ok president I think
Trump if pushed shits upon the 2 corrupt parties, and rightly so
Without him it would be one big wall street funded middlefinger against mainstreet anyway
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US government does or did business with just about every sadistic leader on the planet. So the other way around will be no problem.
US politicians (in public) consider Pakistan, afghanistan, Egypt, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia "allies"....
Trump is a blessing, I have no idea what he stands for but that's irrelevant as politicians never do what they promise.
I am disgusted by the corrupt Bush clan, and thing that one Clinton was enough, although Hillary would be a ok president I think
Trump if pushed shits upon the 2 corrupt parties, and rightly so
Without him it would be one big wall street funded middlefinger against mainstreet anyway
Was not expecting a reply that would have me interested in Trump as prez, lol... Still don't trust him to sit down and STFU during world meetings.
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My two degrees of separation to Donald Trump: When the gay marriage ruling happened, Donald was asked about his views. He mentioned that he had attended a gay wedding. That wedding was of Jordan Roth and Richie Jackson in September of 2012. I dated Jordan Roth in 2000. (He broke up with me, but we remained friends, although I didn't get invited to the wedding, but I'm in LA and he's in NYC. And I'm not bitter.)
How was his cock? Did you rotate dominant./submissive positions?
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Not sure if you've had a chance to look at her actual record of positions on issues, but she's about as liberal as they come.
A big govt liberal that loves bailouts and supports amnesty.
IS CARLY THE ANSWER?
When the police in Baltimore were arrested she said 'we all breathed a sigh of relief' (all over the interwebs)
In 2008, Fiorina supported the Wall Street Bailout known as TARP and even advocated that it was insufficient. (Fox News)
Fiorina supported portions of the Obama stimulus, particularly broadband subsidies. ....(Information Week)
Fiorina called on more government intervention into the housing market. (Fox News)
Fiorina has advocated for increased federal government involvement in schools, mainly with funding, as the solution to America losing jobs overseas unless the nation improves grade-school education and doubles federal spending on basic research. (SF Gate)
In 1989 Fiorina wrote a master’s dissertation on education that concluded with the belief, “I have ended by believing that we will never meet our own expectations of public education unless the federal government is willing to play a consistent, long-term role;” (Flash Report)
Carly bought into the cap/trade bullshit, blaming man for climate change:
Change rules about outsourcing; current climate forces it. (Nov 2009)
Supports Civil Unions for gay and lesbians
Carly denounced the Ted Cruz-led “shut down” over ObamaCare as having “no honor”.
She supports AMNESTY, people!~
“I think legal status is a possibility for sure,” Mrs. Fiorina said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “I think their children maybe can become citizens.”
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George Carlin was right about American politics and elections:
And Doesn't Vote:
Brilliant guy!
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http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/08/09/megyn-kelly-if-you-cant-get-past-me-how-are-you-gonna-handle-vladimir-putin/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social
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http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/08/09/megyn-kelly-if-you-cant-get-past-me-how-are-you-gonna-handle-vladimir-putin/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social
I'm confused by this. Trump DID handle her well in the debate. It's after that he screwed up, whining about her attacks and making the menstruation joke.
During the debate, in which he was given way more negative targeted Qs than anyone else (including the first 3, the worst), Trump stood up to her and actually detailed his principles, even when booed. He DID handle her tough line of questioning with good answers, and I admit that even tho I don't like Trump, since he's a true democrat.
He could have taken the weekend off, and it'd been a win. He's up at 10 am today, calling into MSNBC to explain it further and to brag about his "triple digit lead" lol. Dude needs to stop being so intense. WE get it, you're a dem but you want to play repub to trash the entire process, that's cool. But take the win already.
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So let's say he does win.
Can he make America great again. I think he has more hope than anyone else out there.
Him an Putin will probably get on real well, can you imagine being a fly on the wall when they spent one on one time together.
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Can he make America great again.
everyone has a different definition of when America was great. For me it was immediately after WWII.
what great do you want to get back to?
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Trump is a liberal. He always has been. He hangs out with Hollywood liberals. Every single legit economist say the say thing. Trump won't bring back one manufacturing job to America. Not when Globalist can pay 50cents to a dollar an hour in a 3rd World country. What sucks is the millions who aren't educated believe his hype. If he runs as Independent he will show his true colors and the end game was always to get the "bitch duck" elected...
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Trump is a con man and carnival barker. He's a bloated blimp that claims to only like skinny girls. He lies about his lies. He's nothing.
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Trump vs. Trump.... see how he's evolved over the years.
http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/trump-vs.-trump--a-look-at-donald-trumps-evolving-positions-over-the-years-482986563581
I think his presence is great - people that NEVER NEVER EVER watched the debates in August are glued to it. 24 million people watched that debate. Tell me how many watched in August 2011 debates lol. I know I did (romney missed the first one, i think) but 24 million people sure didn't lol.
I think he's good at adapting to whatever is HOT. I mean, 15 years ago, the idea of "reality TV dream job million dollar prize" was hot, and so The Apprentice kicked ass. In 2010, tea party was hot, so he took on that role. In 2015, anti-obama is hot, immigration is hot, and voila, trump is right there.
in 5 years, when hula hoops are hot again, trump will make $100 mil off the Miss Hula Hoop contest, watch and see lol.
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Trump is a liberal. He always has been. He hangs out with Hollywood liberals. Every single legit economist say the say thing. Trump won't bring back one manufacturing job to America. Not when Globalist can pay 50cents to a dollar an hour in a 3rd World country. What sucks is the millions who aren't educated believe his hype. If he runs as Independent he will show his true colors and the end game was always to get the "bitch duck" elected...
Could be but at least he's steering up some shit - after all it's up to the people to change things not politicians. Although being tightly knit into society doesn't leave that many options to the average Joe unless he's willing to loose it all.
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Nope. The Koch bros have already raised $800 million for Scott Walker. They want a president who will continue to support Coal as energy.
Aldelson is giving hundreds of millions to Rubio because he knows Rubio would be a perfect puppet to start an Iran war.
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the great part.... Trump is hard enough for repubs to defend now, acting like an ass, insulting everything and everyone, and his love history with Hilary and NBC paying a quarter of a billion dollars. Tough to look past that.
now it's looking like he may win some primaries and possibly the nomination. They want to shit on him for being a disgrace, but they think he might win and want to be able to support him later against hilary.
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"I whine until I win" ;D
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Trump. The definition of "presidential" is making fun of people's faces, periods, and other republicans.
(http://media.giphy.com/media/3oEduKlTiYmPPdepsk/giphy.gif)
Billionaire businessman Donald Trump extended his lead in the first prominent post-debate poll released by NBC News Sunday.
Post debate NBC poll: Trump 29% Carson 14% Carly 11% Jeb 8% Cruz 7% Rubio 7% Rand 3% Christie 3% Walker 3% Kasich 2% http://t.co/PywxlCgGfk
— Howie Klein (@downwithtyranny) September 20, 2015
Trump was also viewed as “most presidential” among the GOP candidates. NBC News reported:
More than a third of Republican voters say that Carly Fiorina performed best in the Wednesday night debate on CNN. But debate performances don’t translate into vote preference overnight, and Donald Trump maintains his position at the top of the Republican pack, according to the latest NBC News online survey conducted by SurveyMonkey from Wednesday through Friday.
When the candidates’ negative performance percentages are subtracted from their positive percentages, Fiorina emerges the clear winner, with a positive 34, whereas Trump nets a positive 2 among Republican voters who watched or followed the debate coverage. Marco Rubio and Ben Carson also received positive reviews from Republican voters who followed the debate, with net scores of 8 and 5. Rand Paul fared poorly, scoring a negative 13.
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So prescient.
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but he's crazy. i mean, i could see him shoving a leader or something during debates lol. Spitting or throwing a drink. Calling another president's wife a whore or something.
Trump lacks self control on a scary scale lol. If you asked "which person in the race might get mad one day and set off ten nukes in Antarctica just to piss everyone off", it'd be Trump.
He's a business man. Over the last 4 decades, all we heard about Donald Trump was nailing pussy and buying shit up. If he was such a loose cannon, he would have tons of lawsuits of getting physical with people. yet none are out there. Maybe there are and he paid the people off, but I doubt it. They would surface...I think the part that would suck if Trump was President is the retarded Liberal media would go after him the likes we never seen before. It would be a total circus. However, it may open up the eye's of many people of how corrupt the media really is with a guy like Trump at the head of the class...You know he'll call people out who say things about him in the media. Maybe that wouldn't be a bad thing.
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I think the part that would suck if Trump was President is the retarded Liberal media would go after him the likes we never seen before.
MSNBC did - initially.
Then he started shitting all over Jeb, completely making him look weak.
He took every single Walker/Rubio voter. He set FOX on this internal conflict thing.
THEN he started revealing liberal positions. Jul 27, he said illegals CAN stay (changed later). He says the syrian refugees can come and stay here. He said a pro-abortion apointee to the SCOTUS would be acceptable.
He's hilary with way better TV skills. He's a democrat with ONE extreme position (deport 30 million americans).
Trump told MSNBC's chuck todd it was an honor to work with him (He was calling toad an idiot weeks before). They love him. He calls into morning joe all the time. I'm sure they' may turn on him eventually, but they love him. many msnbc viewers vote in primaries.
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everyone has a different definition of when America was great. For me it was immediately after WWII.
what great do you want to get back to?
I think many feel the same. Anyone worth listening to, anyway.
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Ive never invested in the, "he'll/she'll 'embarrass us'" bullshit, either (about any candidate, ever). No one could "embarrass" us more than we've done to our own selves. It's a little late to start worrying about that, anyway.
But I agree with the Snoman that Trump would show his colors as a globalist. Bernie Sanders is the only candidate I'm aware of that speaks in terms against what we've come to recognize as globalism.
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Trump will behave like Valdimir Putin on Anadrol.
Putin is the most wealthy, and probably the best/smartest leader in the world....That would be a good thing if Trump could do that....Putin spends more in a weekend than Obama is worth
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No.
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Absolutely not. Zero chance.
I will cover all bets. ALL. Trump can not win the general election.
He's a bafoon. He was given $200,000,000 from his dead father and he was bankrupt in less than five years. He's a compulsive, serial liar. He would steal trillions if given the presidency. Putin x 10000.
Months later, Trump being the frontrunner has become the new normal.
Nobody thought he could get this far. When he wins the nomation - with hilary facing indictment... it's hard to bet against Trump there.
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BUMP
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Hard to believe Robs been gone 2 years. :-\
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I think Trump could win.
We've seen crazier things before in US politics.
Jimmy Carter claimed to have seen a UFO and filed a complaint back in 1973.
Lyndon Johnson was known as a womanizing alcoholic.
Bill Clinton cheated on his wife and furthermore lied to the entire nation.
Abraham Lincoln was a hypocrite. He was against slavery, but stood firm on the notion that blacks should not have equal rights to whites.
Ronald Reagan was a fucking actor.
George Bush Jr. was the dumbest president in all of American history. He could barely develop coherent thoughts, let alone form sentences.
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Trump did win - Good call.
All those Crying & whining about Donald now
Should remind themselves of the above points of those other Presidents.