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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: 240 is Back on March 02, 2006, 07:29:15 AM
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Cara from MD got all over us a few months ago. She swore up and down that MD never photoshops athletes to make them look bigger on the covers. She even told some of us that we were very very wrong.
Now some of the new covers... the guys just look way bigger than they do onstage.
Was Cara lying to us, or are we, the fans and members or getbig, wrong?
Thanks!
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Cara from MD got all over us a few months ago. She swore up and down that MD never photoshops athletes to make them look bigger on the covers. She even told some of us that we were very very wrong.
Now some of the new covers... the guys just look way bigger than they do onstage.
Was Cara lying to us, or are we, the fans and members or getbig, wrong?
Thanks!
Hey bro.
Never knew that I had an opinion in this matter.
YIP
Zack
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Cara from MD got all over us a few months ago. She swore up and down that MD never photoshops athletes to make them look bigger on the covers. She even told some of us that we were very very wrong.
Now some of the new covers... the guys just look way bigger than they do onstage.
Was Cara lying to us, or are we, the fans and members or getbig, wrong?
Thanks!
Cara = Wendy Testaburge.
As far as I'm concerned, Cara is lying.
I don't trust her or Steven.
So far all they've given us here are lies and propoganda.
They are only here for their own benefit.
DIV
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Cara is sweetheart and she does great job for Steve.
And what is wrong to be somewhere "for their own benefit"?
Should they go somewhere "for their own damage"?
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Cara is sweetheart and she does great job for Steve.
And what is wrong to be somewhere "for their own benefit"?
Should they go somewhere "for their own damage"?
They're just self-promoting like most people on here.....
No more, No less......
Don't get it twisted, Milos....
DIV
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When 240 had that 15 minute meltdown on the board, I sent JR the thread lol.
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She may have been in the dark on this one. You know how clandestine some of those sneaky photographers are...stealing away at night and erasing your age lines like little gnomes!
Cara has been known to be sneaky on these boards...
She'll make quick post, then duck out for a few weeks, then when a new issue of MD is about to hit the shelves she strikes again like clockwork.
Self-serving and a bit selfish.
DIV
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Anyone have a pic of that recent Bill Willmore cover? He looks superhuman.
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good point.
We called BS on those Lee and Gustavo covers, and she bashed us.
Cara said: "You are wrong. MD has never, and will never, photoshop magazine covers"
However the cover with lee, compared to the pic of lee onstage, showed something was definintely up. I don't care if they photoshop... but for Cara to call us wrong...
240,
"We" as in you and who else?
YIP
Zack
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240,
"We" as in you and who else?
YIP
Zack
I just meant a few getbig members.
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I just meant a few getbig members.
Cool.
Meaning yourself and who else then?
YIP
Zack
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Cool.
Meaning yourself and who else then?
YIP
Zack
240 had my proxy for that BS vote
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Cool.
Meaning yourself and who else then?
YIP
Zack
I did a quick search-- these members called photoshop;;;
Rudee, Groink, bigdumbbell, Adam Empire, Cool Black Clyde, garraeth, zugzwang, sarcasm, MUVIRSE, DOUBLE XL, Stavios, IFBBwannaB, DEFCON, Karl Kox, Big Lee, BayGBM...
After that, my eyes got tired. But if you look at the posts by Cara and Steve, every one is followed by 3 pages of people calling photoshop, and a few denials by Cara.
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I've been an expert at photoshop for several years and spent 2 years studying computer art in school.
IF they do photoshop the people then it's simply small changes to edit out blotches on the skin or acne. It would take someone very good at photoshop to make the people look larger to the point it's not debatable. If they were photoshoped it would be obvious,It isn't since you're all debating it.
I've seen the photoshoped Icons and backgrounds in Flex and M&D and quite frankly they suck. IF the same person doing the rest of the photoshoping in the magazine actually tried to photoshop the bodybuilders,It would be obvious.
In reality the only difference is lighting and proportion. The Photographers are experts and know what they're doing. They know how to take pictures with perfect lighting to make them look biggest. On stage the lighting varies and that's why they look different in size.
Lighting can add 30lbs or take away 30lbs.
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I've been an expert at photoshop for several years and spent 2 years studying computer art in school.
IF they do photoshop the people then it's simply small changes to edit out blotches on the skin or acne. It would take someone very good at photoshop to make the people look larger to the point it's not debatable. If they were photoshoped it would be obvious,It isn't since you're all debating it.
I've seen the photoshoped Icons and backgrounds in Flex and M&D and quite frankly they suck. IF the same person doing the rest of the photoshoping in the magazine actually tried to photoshop the bodybuilders,It would be obvious.
In reality the only difference is lighting and proportion. The Photographers are experts and know what they're doing. They know how to take pictures with perfect lighting to make them look biggest. On stage the lighting varies and that's why they look different in size.
Lighting can add 30lbs or take away 30lbs.
Very good points.
Double XL pointed out this difference in DH, 1 day apart.
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Lighting can add 30lbs...
So can grilled stuft burritos with extra nacho cheese and sour cream from Taco Bell.
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How do you know those are 1 day apart?
Secondly the camera angle is different.
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Cara is sweetheart and she does great job for Steve.
And what is wrong to be somewhere "for their own benefit"?
Should they go somewhere "for their own damage"?
Translation : i banged this cara chic once a blue moon ago
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So can grilled stuft burritos with extra nacho cheese and sour cream from Taco Bell.
damn that sounds good.
And I have nothing against them doing it. It's just when someone from the staff makes a statement that it's not done, it kinda insults our intelligence. Like when Gustavo says he's all natural. We don't care if it's done... just don't tell us lies. Anyway, MD is the best mag around, don't get me wrong.
I just wish Cara would call my boy DIV back.
(and I know they're one day apart because one was taken at the Ironman, and Steve B announced the cover was shot the day afterwards)
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I've seen people gain 15+ lbs in the 24 hours after a show and still look "gym" ripped. Onstage they'd look smooth though... Dave was ripped and his body would have sucked back up very fast plus the diuretic rebound too.
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"It would take someone very good at photoshop to make the people look larger to the point it's not debatable"
Apollo-
Not so sure about that.
Remember a Flex mag from a few years back with Shawn Ray on the cover?
They 'shopped a photo of Shawn to add ~30 pounds to his physique + showed it right next to the original.
It was a very good 'shop, as Shawn DID look better!
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"It would take someone very good at photoshop to make the people look larger to the point it's not debatable"
Apollo-
Not so sure about that.
Remember a Flex mag from a few years back with Shawn Ray on the cover?
They 'shopped a photo of Shawn to add ~30 pounds to his physique + showed it right next to the original.
It was a very good 'shop, as Shawn DID look better!
Post it.
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Sorry, Apollo - did a quick search + checked Shawn's website, but cant find it.
Anyone have a pic?
Shawn?
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I've seen people gain 15+ lbs in the 24 hours after a show and still look "gym" ripped. Onstage they'd look smooth though... Dave was ripped and his body would have sucked back up very fast plus the diuretic rebound too
Classic example ,IFBB Worlds about 9-10 years ago , this guy is helped out to the weigh in and weighs in at 79 kg just making the middle weight class, he looks F@#ked can hardly stand !!
Turns up 2 days later for the show weighing 87 kg , looks incredable , huge ripped ,hard , wins show !!!
Thats a 17lb plus gain !!
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(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/new/apr06mdcov.jpg)
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My first reaction to the henry/priest cover was that it was shopped.. but upon thinking about it, looking at him at the ironman it just looks as if they have found a pose to make him look huge.
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R.I.P. MD !!!!!!!!!!
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I did a quick search-- these members called photoshop;;;
Rudee, Groink, bigdumbbell, Adam Empire, Cool Black Clyde, garraeth, zugzwang, sarcasm, MUVIRSE, DOUBLE XL, Stavios, IFBBwannaB, DEFCON, Karl Kox, Big Lee, BayGBM...
After that, my eyes got tired. But if you look at the posts by Cara and Steve, every one is followed by 3 pages of people calling photoshop, and a few denials by Cara.
I stand by my past post - it refered to the Ronnie cover. They shrunk his head. I bet it was by like 5%, but just enough to make him look even larger (but look odd to those who see his pics often). I doubt MD will ever admit to this - I really do think they alter the pics by just a small enough % that they think nobody will notice. Then they can deny it too while selling mags...
That being said, all mags touch up the covers - but MD denies it and either makes them look like liars or idiots in the publishing industry...
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just admit some artistry you still have an excellent magazine. just admit it.
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I just wish Cara would call my boy DIV back.
I think she put me in the friendzone, Robert.
I suppose this means I won't get the oppurtunity to sample Wendy's "testaburger". :-\
Translation : i banged this cara chic once a blue moon ago
Word, nugga!
It appears that Milos was slappin' nuts and crushin' guts on baby Cara back in the day.....
Who knew? ???
DIV
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what would be the point of them telling that they dont photoshop. they obviously do. that would be like ronnie or jay telling us about their stacks.
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of course they photoshop somewhat. playboy photoshops, maxim photoshops, so do BB magazines. the industry is driven by body image, why wouldnt they photoshop
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of course they photoshop somewhat. playboy photoshops, maxim photoshops, so do BB magazines. the industry is driven by body image, why wouldnt they photoshop
Ronnie Coleman doesn't lie about gear use. Tyra Banks doesn't say her breasts are natural. We could care less. But when Gustavo brags about being natural - or MD 'absolutely denies' using photoshop - it's an insult to the reader's intelligence.
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Shrinking someone's head would not do anything but make them look deformed.
IF they are morphing the muscles they're stretching the muscles themselfs,But if they were doing that it would be obvious to us that they had been photoshoped because the other photothops in the magazines suck.
Someone post an example of how shrinking someone's head can make them look more muscular,I don't believe it would have such an effect.
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Someone post an example of how shrinking someone's head can make them look more muscular,I don't believe it would have such an effect.
Not more muscular- but a smaller head would easily lead us to believe a 20-inch arm is a 23-inch arm.
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I think it would just make them look deformed.
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Those pictures are not photoshopped if 240 and the other so-called getbig experts knew anything about bodybuilding they would know that the day after the show if you pig out you can easily gain 10 to 15 pounds. Getting pumped up in the gym and the right lighting and camera angle can make any bodybuilder look a lot bigger.
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To be completely honest, the pictures of David Henry the night of the Ironman and the day after on the cover, he looks the same size. First off I'm sure he did eat a big meal after the contest. But his chest, arms, shoulders look the same. Maybe because he is sitting down he may be a little scrunched up which may to some make him look bigger. But I really don't see a difference.
240, devoted bodybuilding fan, or someone desperate for attention? Conspiracy? You be the judge!
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240, devoted bodybuilding fan, or someone desperate for attention? Conspiracy? You be the judge!
Whether I'm wrong 9 out of 10 times, if I uncover something on that 10th try, then it was worth it.
Anyway, I just ask questions to elicit a spirited discussion. I try not to take sides (although I often do)
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It's pretty stupid to say they're not photoshopped because they don't look photoshopped. Why would they put out pictures that are blatantly enhanced? The fact is some pictures do look messed with. Maybe I'm wrong but I've been working with photoshop for 10 years now. just my opinion.
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It's pretty stupid to say they're not photoshopped because they don't look photoshopped. Why would they put out pictures that are blatantly enhanced? The fact is some pictures do look messed with. Maybe I'm wrong but I've been working with photoshop for 10 years now. just my opinion.
Exactly. Just enough to make somebody look a little larger. If I had a pic and my body was made 2% larger, it would look legit, but I could still deny that I ever did it. Same thing here I think...