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Title: GENERAL ODIERNO: JEB IS WRONG! BLAME BUSH FOR NEGOTIATING IRAQ PULLOUT NOT OBAMA
Post by: andreisdaman on August 14, 2015, 08:37:47 AM
General Ordierno who is retiring and has nothing left to lose stated that Obama should not be blamed for pulling out of Iraq because George Bush had already negotiated that the US would pull out of IRAQ by the end of 2014....Obama was simply fulfilling Bush's mandate.....and when Obama did try to stay longer, the Iraqis refused and would not sign a "status of forces" agreement......

I still don't blame Bush for ISIS taking over Iraq....that was the fault of the Iraqis not settling their various politcal/religious feuds..

BUT..it does destroy ONCE AGAIN the Obama haters who try to blame the IRAQ problem on Obama

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ray-odierno-jeb-bush-iraq-55ccd562e4b0cacb8d333f96
Title: Re: GENERAL ODIERNO: JEB IS WRONG! BLAME BUSH FOR NEGOTIATING IRAQ PULLOUT NOT OBAMA
Post by: 240 is Back on August 14, 2015, 09:08:06 AM
some conspiracy theorists believe obama was supposed to undermine Bush and re-write the SOFA agreement once bush left office.

obviously, obama respected president bush way too much to do that.

but you know CTers, they're always going on about something.
Title: Re: GENERAL ODIERNO: JEB IS WRONG! BLAME BUSH FOR NEGOTIATING IRAQ PULLOUT NOT OBAMA
Post by: andreisdaman on August 14, 2015, 10:06:58 AM
some conspiracy theorists believe obama was supposed to undermine Bush and re-write the SOFA agreement once bush left office.

obviously, obama respected president bush way too much to do that.

but you know CTers, they're always going on about something.
HA!...I'm just glad that General Odierno had the balls to come out with this...he undercut Jeb Bush and this will shut up all those guys on FOX who keep saying its Obama's fault about ISIS
Title: Re: GENERAL ODIERNO: JEB IS WRONG! BLAME BUSH FOR NEGOTIATING IRAQ PULLOUT NOT OBAMA
Post by: chadstallion on August 14, 2015, 01:21:14 PM
and now Jeb has his 'oops' moment
Title: Re: GENERAL ODIERNO: JEB IS WRONG! BLAME BUSH FOR NEGOTIATING IRAQ PULLOUT NOT OBAMA
Post by: andreisdaman on August 15, 2015, 07:55:08 AM
and now Jeb has his 'oops' moment

 ;D
Title: Re: GENERAL ODIERNO: JEB IS WRONG! BLAME BUSH FOR NEGOTIATING IRAQ PULLOUT NOT OBAMA
Post by: James28 on August 16, 2015, 04:49:32 AM
Waiting for Coach to come here with 'libs libs libs' and ignore the premise.
Title: Re: GENERAL ODIERNO: JEB IS WRONG! BLAME BUSH FOR NEGOTIATING IRAQ PULLOUT NOT OBAMA
Post by: 240 is Back on August 16, 2015, 08:14:33 AM
do we want to believe General Ordierno, or do we want to believe internet conspiracy theorists claiming, between sips of Apple Pucker, that Obama was secretly supposed to UNDO bush's hard work?
Title: Re: GENERAL ODIERNO: JEB IS WRONG! BLAME BUSH FOR NEGOTIATING IRAQ PULLOUT NOT OBAMA
Post by: andreisdaman on August 16, 2015, 08:34:37 AM
Waiting for Coach to come here with 'libs libs libs' and ignore the premise.

 ;D
Title: Re: GENERAL ODIERNO: JEB IS WRONG! BLAME BUSH FOR NEGOTIATING IRAQ PULLOUT NOT OBAMA
Post by: andreisdaman on August 16, 2015, 08:35:41 AM
do we want to believe General Ordierno, or do we want to believe internet conspiracy theorists claiming, between sips of Apple Pucker, that Obama was secretly supposed to UNDO bush's hard work?

No one really seems to care when things like this exonerate Obama...they are so caught up in blaming him for everything
Title: Re: GENERAL ODIERNO: JEB IS WRONG! BLAME BUSH FOR NEGOTIATING IRAQ PULLOUT NOT OBAMA
Post by: 240 is Back on August 16, 2015, 09:16:30 AM
No one really seems to care when things like this exonerate Obama...they are so caught up in blaming him for everything

the weird part is how stupid they consider obama.  But he keeps defeating them in elections and winning all his liberal legislation.  To be bested continually by someone they consider to be 80 IQ... and bragging about it?  baffling.
Title: Re: GENERAL ODIERNO: JEB IS WRONG! BLAME BUSH FOR NEGOTIATING IRAQ PULLOUT NOT OBAMA
Post by: andreisdaman on August 16, 2015, 11:52:28 AM
the weird part is how stupid they consider obama.  But he keeps defeating them in elections and winning all his liberal legislation.  To be bested continually by someone they consider to be 80 IQ... and bragging about it?  baffling.

No president has had to deal with the adversity that Obama has had to put up with...except Abraham Lincoln
Title: Re: GENERAL ODIERNO: JEB IS WRONG! BLAME BUSH FOR NEGOTIATING IRAQ PULLOUT NOT OBAMA
Post by: 240 is Back on August 16, 2015, 01:21:56 PM
No president has had to deal with the adversity that Obama has had to put up with...except Abraham Lincoln

'a house divided cannot stand'

the repub party seems inept and impotent.  In reality, they're just divided.  They don't know if they want to be tea party patriot libertarians, keep the govt out of our lives... OR if they want to be RINO anti-liberty types, where the govt controls everything related to religion, reproduction, etc.

Can't be both ways.   just pick already.
Title: Re: GENERAL ODIERNO: JEB IS WRONG! BLAME BUSH FOR NEGOTIATING IRAQ PULLOUT NOT OBAMA
Post by: andreisdaman on August 16, 2015, 04:49:28 PM
'a house divided cannot stand'

the repub party seems inept and impotent.  In reality, they're just divided.  They don't know if they want to be tea party patriot libertarians, keep the govt out of our lives... OR if they want to be RINO anti-liberty types, where the govt controls everything related to religion, reproduction, etc.

Can't be both ways.   just pick already.

Not to mention they vote in lockstep with each other...no individual critical thinking.....just do what the leadership tells them to do....even though they are in conflict with those very same leaders :D
Title: Re: GENERAL ODIERNO: JEB IS WRONG! BLAME BUSH FOR NEGOTIATING IRAQ PULLOUT NOT OBAMA
Post by: 240 is Back on August 16, 2015, 08:36:17 PM
Not to mention they vote in lockstep with each other...no individual critical thinking.....just do what the leadership tells them to do....even though they are in conflict with those very same leaders :D

oh, and it's always "let's choose a RINO, they're soooo electable"

or "oh, a business president, let's roll with romney or twump.   The last 2 biz presidents, Bush and Hoover, were really cool about giving us Great depression I and II.
Title: Re: GENERAL ODIERNO: JEB IS WRONG! BLAME BUSH FOR NEGOTIATING IRAQ PULLOUT NOT OBAMA
Post by: andreisdaman on August 17, 2015, 06:31:53 AM
oh, and it's always "let's choose a RINO, they're soooo electable"

or "oh, a business president, let's roll with romney or twump.   The last 2 biz presidents, Bush and Hoover, were really cool about giving us Great depression I and II.

Even coach can't dispute the thread title..he's noticeably absent......I think Soul Crusher will return if a Republican is elected ;D
Title: Re: GENERAL ODIERNO: JEB IS WRONG! BLAME BUSH FOR NEGOTIATING IRAQ PULLOUT NOT OBAMA
Post by: 240 is Back on August 17, 2015, 07:31:04 AM
Getbig political has been destroyed by trump. 

Repubs go silent when they are scared to commit to trump, a lifetime liberal.  They're waiting til Iowa to decide how they feel. 
Title: Re: GENERAL ODIERNO: JEB IS WRONG! BLAME BUSH FOR NEGOTIATING IRAQ PULLOUT NOT OBAMA
Post by: Victor VonDoom on August 17, 2015, 08:51:12 AM
General Ordierno who is retiring and has nothing left to lose stated that Obama should not be blamed for pulling out of Iraq because George Bush had already negotiated that the US would pull out of IRAQ by the end of 2014....Obama was simply fulfilling Bush's mandate.....and when Obama did try to stay longer, the Iraqis refused and would not sign a "status of forces" agreement......

I still don't blame Bush for ISIS taking over Iraq....that was the fault of the Iraqis not settling their various politcal/religious feuds..

BUT..it does destroy ONCE AGAIN the Obama haters who try to blame the IRAQ problem on Obama

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ray-odierno-jeb-bush-iraq-55ccd562e4b0cacb8d333f96

Owned!  Bah!