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Title: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: mame09 on March 02, 2006, 05:29:46 PM
we need an ambassador to represent our sport. like arnie did back in the 60s. someone to goto movie premiers nd shit lyk dat.

they gotta be able to talk properly, smart and so on

any ideas on who
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: 240 is Back on March 02, 2006, 05:46:34 PM
Wayne DeMilla seems to think it's Guuuuuuuuuuuuuun-tah.
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: onlyme on March 02, 2006, 06:49:22 PM
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they gotta be able to talk properly, smart and so on

any ideas on who

Well that kind of narrows the choices.
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: HRDCOR on March 02, 2006, 07:48:37 PM

Dude you are not far of the piont here , The sport does need a Public spokesman/women to front for it when ever the sport gets dissed on by the media or what ever , someone with moral fortitude and fiber, but dammmm who has that in this sport ??????
We need appeal, smarts and likeablity in a ambassador , they could be hired by the IFBB as there spokes person and face of Bodybuilding (insted of damm Ben Weider)
Any one got any ideas ???
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: LAMA-PAI on March 02, 2006, 07:50:15 PM
I nominate Mr C Titus
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: mame09 on March 02, 2006, 08:20:11 PM
i think the best person i can think of was richard jones but now his in to mma
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: body88 on March 02, 2006, 08:21:28 PM
Gunter would be perfect. What about Charles
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: andre_avigdor on March 02, 2006, 08:24:40 PM
Gunter would be perfect. What about Charles

Are big Muscled men ever OFF your mind?
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: BigEnough on March 02, 2006, 08:25:46 PM
Are big Muscled men ever OFF your mind?

Sometimes he thinks about dogs. 

But the dogs are boy dogs.

 :(
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: body88 on March 02, 2006, 08:27:38 PM
I have finally made it!!!!! 2 years posting  one meltdown and account deletion in the books  and I finally have a stalker / fan!
thanks andre i hope to see you in more threads :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: body88 on March 02, 2006, 08:28:17 PM
Sometimes he thinks about dogs. 
But the dogs are boy dogs. :(
2 fans!
And i thought it was just a Thursday night! All you guys are doing is clogging threads stalking and insulting fire away tough guys RARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: Sumpa on March 03, 2006, 07:10:56 AM
and what is that ambassador going to say when people start asking about steroids? an ambassador won't change a thing.
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: jaejonna on March 03, 2006, 07:42:41 AM
I vote for Cormier....
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: Jr. Yates on March 03, 2006, 11:58:06 AM
and what is that ambassador going to say when people start asking about steroids? an ambassador won't change a thing.
steriods will always be an issue.....but they arn't its the human growth hormone....normal people don't care to realize this..to them its all the same.
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: hipolito mejia on March 03, 2006, 12:24:43 PM
A natural b.b could b a good one.................

i mean if u want him to be taken seriously out side b.b as that's what an ambassador is for.


Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: bigbalddaddy on March 03, 2006, 12:44:22 PM
I think it should be someone who has been at the top (top 5 in the "O" or Arnold, not just an "O" competitor) who is through competing who can also speak intelligently about gear and his trial and tribulations if it came up.  A current pro obvisouly couldn't do that.  I know I will get heat for this one but Shawn is the only one I know of who can speak on everyones behalf and isn't afraid to speak his mind.  The only thing I wouldn't be sure of is if he would come out in the open and share his gear experiences with the media to give people a true insight as to what guys really do and how they deal with it...Feel free to slam me if you want, that's just my .02 worth ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: BayGBM on March 03, 2006, 12:54:08 PM
Body building isn’t really a sport; it’s a beauty contest, but if Miss America can be an “ambassador” for the Miss America organization, why not body building . . . ?

Seriously, we all know that drugs are an indispensable part of bodybuilding.  The many sad stories of bodybuilders who crash and burn, jeopardize their health, private pose (and more), inject oils, and all the rest make this a difficult activity to promote with credibility.  Leave it as is: a recreational activity for men who like to pump up and pose for other men.  ;)
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: bigbalddaddy on March 03, 2006, 12:58:05 PM
  Leave it as is: a recreational activity for men who like to pump up and pose for other men.  ;)

That's pretty scary when you think of it that way!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: JasonH on March 03, 2006, 01:01:42 PM
It should in theory be Ronnie. But seeing as he comes across as a big fuckin dope you can scratch that idea until he retires.
You would think that the Weiders with all their money and power could push the sport in a more positive direction but the older they get the less likely that will happen.
I think Jay would make a good ambassador if he ever wins the Olympia but it doesn't matter how likeable you are, how articulate you come across, remember, we are still part of a "sport" where drug use is imperative to reaching the top. Arnold only managed it cos gear was still legal in his day and he'd effectively retired (not including the '80 Olympia) by the time he became famous. But remember, Arnie got famous more for being an action hero than a bodybuilder so you could argue that not even he was an ambassador for bodybuilding when he was in his prime.
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: BayGBM on March 03, 2006, 01:07:18 PM
That's pretty scary when you think of it that way!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o

Tell me I’m wrong.

Many will argue otherwise, but no serious bodybuilder is pumping up for women; they are all doing it for the benefit of other men.  Wearing a thong and posing to music no less!  On some level they want to be looked at by other men, admired for their looks by other men, ogled by other men, felt up by other men ( I could go on but you get the idea) . . .

Many bodybuilding magazines are oddly schizophrenic.  They try to portray themselves as a heterosexual interest but the content (and often the ads) are explicitly gay themed.

By definition body building is an extreme activity.  Accordingly, it is not supposed to appeal to the mainstream.  Therefore it does not need an ambassador.  The men (competitors and fans) will find their way to the “sport.”  They always have and always will--without an ambassador or excessive promotion.

Fitness certainly appeals to the mainstream but the relationship between fitness/health and professional body building is nonexistent.  :-\
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: bigdumbbell on March 03, 2006, 01:12:06 PM
ronnie coleman is a perfect ambassador type for bodybuilding
big, obviously on growth drugs and in denial.

i nominate ronnie coleman!
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: mwbbuilder on March 03, 2006, 01:16:27 PM
Tell me I’m wrong.
Many will argue otherwise, but no serious bodybuilder is pumping up for women; they are all doing it for the benefit of other men.  Wearing a thong and posing to music no less!  On some level they want to be looked at by other men, admired for their looks by other men, ogled by other men, felt up by other men ( I could go on but you get the idea) . . .
Many bodybuilding magazines are oddly schizophrenic.  They try to portray themselves as a heterosexual interest but the content (and often the ads) are explicitly gay themed.
By definition body building is an extreme activity.  Accordingly, it is not supposed to appeal to the mainstream.  Therefore it does not need an ambassador.  The men (competitors and fans) will find their way to the “sport.”  They always have and always will--without an ambassador or excessive promotion.
Fitness certainly appeals to the mainstream but the relationship between fitness/health and professional body building is nonexistent.  :-\

Do you consider for a moment that you are looking at bodybuilding through your "gay" lenses? Not that many people don't share your views--but I am hear to tell you that the vast majority of men DO NOT.
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: Johnny Apollo on March 03, 2006, 01:31:59 PM
Requirments for an Ambassador...

1.Hasn't had nude photographs taken of themself & hasn't done "Gay for pay" in the past.

2.Has technical knowledge of anabolic steroids and can articulate arguments against people in the media on the spot and defend Anabolic Steroids.

3.Has atleast some technical knowledge of science and can articulate arguments on hand and discuss bodybuilding from a technical physiological level.

4.Is blunt and can stand up for themself at a moments notice.(Won't cower down and take a verbal beating from news personalities.)

5.Doesn't get involved in any of the disputes you see between bodybuilders.

6.Does not have a criminal record.

7.Is a Professional.



A few people I nominate that could develope these attributes if they don't have them already...

Gunter Schlierkamp
Jay Cutler
Bob Chicerillo
Dexter Jackson
Chris Cormier

Do they fit the qualifications that can't be worked on?

Ronnie Coleman isn't very smart I think. On Jay Leno He couldn't hardly articulate a sentence so there is no way he could argue for bodybuilding or anabolic steroids from a technical standpoint.
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: BayGBM on March 03, 2006, 01:41:03 PM
Requirments for an Ambassador...
1.Hasn't had nude photographs taken of themself & hasn't done "Gay for pay" in the past.
2.Has technical knowledge of anabolic steroids and can articulate arguments against people in the media on the spot and defend Anabolic Steroids.
3.Has atleast some technical knowledge of science and can articulate arguments on hand and discuss bodybuilding from a technical physiological level.
4.Is blunt and can stand up for themself at a moments notice.(Won't cower down and take a verbal beating from news personalities.)
5.Doesn't get involved in any of the disputes you see between bodybuilders.
6.Does not have a criminal record.
7.Is a Professional.

That all sounds good, but such a person would not at all be representative of most pro (or amateur) bodybuilders.  :'(
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: Johnny Apollo on March 03, 2006, 01:44:15 PM
That all sounds good, but such a person would not at all be representative of most pro (or amateur) bodybuilders.  :'(



That's not the point though now is it?


Sending someone out who represented most Pro's as an ambassador would be a disaster to the sport. Sending out someone like King Kamali to go on talk shows and argue for bodybuilding would just make us all look stupid.

We need to send the BEST we've got. The best looking,The smartest,The clean cut guy without a criminal record who is soft spoken but will stand up for himself and the sport at a moments notice.
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: Special Ed on March 03, 2006, 01:53:23 PM
Requirments for an Ambassador...
1.Hasn't had nude photographs taken of themself & hasn't done "Gay for pay" in the past.
Two part question:
1. Does that include nude photographs I've taken of myself; and
2. Does "Gay for Pay" include selling my soiled underwear through the mail?

Special "Autosucker" Ed
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: BayGBM on March 03, 2006, 01:58:18 PM
Once again, that all sounds good, but people (interviewers, cynics, the public) would clue in very quickly that what the ambassador is saying is effectively hollow if virtually no one in the industry led a similar life(style).

It’s like Vanessa Williams winning Ms. America or Halle Berry getting an Oscar and calling that racial progress. Neither of those women look like most African American women and they certainly would not have won those awards if they did.  :(

The ambassador should be most of the things you mentioned, but he can’t be so rare and distant from most bodybuilders that he has no credibility. 
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: Johnny Apollo on March 03, 2006, 02:01:32 PM
I don't think the media is smart enough to figure that out.
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: bmacsys on March 03, 2006, 02:06:34 PM
Well that kind of narrows the choices.


To hear Ronnie talk you know the guy isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. Contrast this to the articles in Flex he "supposedly" authors. I mean lets get real. Ronnie couldn't pronounce half the words in the article let alone know what they mean. Do the publishers of Flex think the readers of that mag are that gullible?
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: 240 is Back on March 03, 2006, 02:09:28 PM
Requirments for an Ambassador...
1.Hasn't had nude photographs taken of themself & hasn't done "Gay for pay" in the past.
2.Has technical knowledge of anabolic steroids and can articulate arguments against people in the media on the spot and defend Anabolic Steroids.
3.Has atleast some technical knowledge of science and can articulate arguments on hand and discuss bodybuilding from a technical physiological level.
4.Is blunt and can stand up for themself at a moments notice.(Won't cower down and take a verbal beating from news personalities.)
5.Doesn't get involved in any of the disputes you see between bodybuilders.
6.Does not have a criminal record.
7.Is a Professional.


Okay.


I'll do it.
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: BayGBM on March 03, 2006, 02:10:41 PM
To hear Ronnie talk you know the guy isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. Contrast this to the articles in Flex he "supposedly" authors. I mean lets get real. Ronnie couldn't pronounce half the words in the article let alone know what they mean. Do the publishers of Flex think the readers of that mag are that gullible?

If they are still buying FLEX and reading the articles then, yes, they are that gullible.  :'(
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: kaylos on March 03, 2006, 02:22:03 PM
Gunter, Ray, Jones.
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: bmacsys on March 04, 2006, 03:29:54 PM
If they are still buying FLEX and reading the articles then, yes, they are that gullible.  :'(


I hadn't bought it since like 1992. I won't be buying it again. It's 100% crap.
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: hifrommike on March 04, 2006, 08:50:03 PM
Levrone if he would do it.  But he won't.   :-\
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on March 04, 2006, 09:45:00 PM
Lee Haney is as good as one gets when it comes to representing BB. He's the ultimate professional in everyway. I cannot think of ONE pro of todays standards that's the least bit professional!
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: 240 is Back on March 04, 2006, 09:46:58 PM
Lee Haney is as good as one gets when it comes to representing BB. He's the ultimate professional in everyway. I cannot think of ONE pro of todays standards that's the least bit professional!

You wouldn't have heard Lee Haney accusing Lee Lebrada of smoking crack back in the day.

Yet today's representative of the sport for the last decade can barely finish a sentence... and when you can understand him, it's to insult another competitor.
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on March 04, 2006, 09:59:13 PM
You wouldn't have heard Lee Haney accusing Lee Lebrada of smoking crack back in the day.
Yet today's representative of the sport for the last decade can barely finish a sentence... and when you can understand him, it's to insult another competitor.

Yep! When I met LaBrada he was also a true professional who took time to answer questions. He represented him and his products well and that "Super Charged" stuff that he sells is awesome!
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on March 04, 2006, 10:14:38 PM
Right now BBing's ambassador is GV. heh. Like it or not...
Milos might be good. He seems smart, but does he have a crazy accent? That'd blow it for the US of Arian.

I like Milos but it might be better if BB had someone who hasn't been indited for drugs and didn't almost kill themselves using synthol. Lets find someone who isn't under investigation!!
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: BayGBM on March 04, 2006, 10:21:33 PM
I like Milos but it might be better if BB had someone who hasn't been indited for drugs and didn't almost kill themselves using synthol. Lets find someone who isn't under investigation!!

Ditto.  Having a meltdowns online and telling posters to go phuck themselves is not what BB needs in an ambassador.
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: 240 is Back on March 04, 2006, 10:22:42 PM
Ditto.  Having a meltdowns online and telling posters to go phuck themselves is not what BB needs in an ambassador.
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on March 04, 2006, 10:23:14 PM
Ditto.  Having a meltdowns online and telling posters to go phuck themselves is not what BB needs in an ambassador.

When did this happen?
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: BayGBM on March 04, 2006, 10:36:16 PM
When did this happen?

It happened in the last week or two and spawned few private messages among those of us who saw it; as you see above, 240 managed to capture it.  It was abruptly deleted, but suffice to say the damage is done.  If his past behavior is any indication, Bob C. would make a terrible ambassador.
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: 240 is Back on March 04, 2006, 10:42:25 PM
there's more to bob than meets the eye!


He hates overweight people and mocks them.
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: 240 is Back on March 04, 2006, 10:45:00 PM
he also uses words like "retards" and "queer" in everyday conversation.  And he makes threats.  And he mocks overweight people.

Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on March 04, 2006, 10:55:51 PM
Like I said earlier, there's no one that can represent BB like Haney. Although Melvin might be a good choice. We spoke at length and he's a good guy and seems to really want to make a difference especially with kids!
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: BayGBM on March 04, 2006, 10:59:48 PM
he also uses words like "retards" and "queer" in everyday conversation.  And he makes threats.  And he mocks overweight people.

Say it isn't so. :'(
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: 240 is Back on March 04, 2006, 11:01:27 PM
yep.  The best part will come in a few months when Bob denies everything.  "I never said that". 
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: weedoutheweak on March 04, 2006, 11:04:33 PM
yep.  The best part will come in a few months when Bob denies everything.  "I never said that". 

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Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: bigdumbbell on March 05, 2006, 04:58:43 AM
Yeah, ok...being under investigation is bad. I didn't know Milos had a temper.
But, yeah if Chick is the current "ambassador"... ::)
Shawn is better only because he doesn't meltdown at the drop of a hat...and 240 sure pushes on him!  ;) But I dunno how intelligent Shawn is (what's his schooling background?).
Nasser would've been good because of his smarts, but he seems a bit less than social...
because of zealous immaturity shawns credentials will qualify him for a limited junior ambassadorship with ability to delete threads and posts
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: 240 is Back on March 05, 2006, 05:00:41 AM
all kidding aside, the rep of the sport should never make negative statements in public about ANY athlete.

King and Shawn should be out of the running from minute one.
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on March 05, 2006, 08:21:22 AM
all kidding aside, the rep of the sport should never make negative statements in public about ANY athlete.
King and Shawn should be out of the running from minute one.

Then Chick should resign as well.
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: YoungBlood on March 05, 2006, 08:33:19 AM
Are big Muscled men ever OFF your mind?

Are horrible, shameless, tacky, self-promoting, bullshit personal training tactics ever off your mind?  >:( ??? ::)  >:(
Title: Re: bb needs an ambassador
Post by: onlyme on March 05, 2006, 08:33:43 AM
Chic appointed himself hasn't he