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ran it before last dec/jan and after about 5 weeks on it i bailed out coz it didn't seem to be doing jack shit
is it true that you gotta run it a good 12-16 weeks to see results from it?
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would say 8-10ish but never found it did much.
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Multiple Olympia winning champion Dorian Yates doesn't rate it and neither do I.
Garbage.
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I like EQ because it improves my cardio which is important in most sports. Also I believe it helps with my recovery. I got in a very good condition during my last EQ/test prop 16 week cycle: EQ 600 mg EW, test prop 150 mg with gh in the mix.
For BB I believe it has its place in the tren/test/mast/gh cocktail. But its just small piece of the puzzle. Tren and HGH are the main parts of the equation.
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It's a waste of money-IMO. way better AAS out there. some people love the shit but I don;t see why it does very little. Ive had it from diffrent labs all of it did nothing compared to Tren or even masteron.
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It worx very well on my girlfriend - she's just getting bigger . Pining only once a week
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Ive ran it for 16 weeks at 600mg a week with test.
Gave me massive anxiety and acne. I really didnt expect the acne part since its not very androgenic nor estrogenic.
However i got impressive vascularity off it, appetite and good steady strengh gains, like i kept progressing even in the later part of the cycle. The gains with EQ are easy to keep since it builds up over a long time.
To me the sides were not worth it so wont touch it again.
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I like EQ because it improves my cardio which is important in most sports. Also I believe it helps with my recovery. I got in a very good condition during my last EQ/test prop 16 week cycle: EQ 600 mg EW, test prop 150 mg with gh in the mix.
For BB I believe it has its place in the tren/test/mast/gh cocktail. But its just small piece of the puzzle. Tren and HGH are the main parts of the equation.
Eq improves cardio?? Lol ok so you're telling me lets say you can run 2miles three shots of eq and you can run 3? Such bullshit
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It's more of a compliment to stack/gives nice vascularity and no you won't notice anything crazy in 4 week's.
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waste of money.
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Eq improves cardio?? Lol ok so you're telling me lets say you can run 2miles three shots of eq and you can run 3? Such bullshit
EQ increases red blood cells and oxygen transport. yes it improves cardio.
that was actually the only fucking thing i ever noticed from it. and ungodly hunger (but tren does this too)
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waste of money.
this! shoot Tren! then you don't have to wait 2 months to see any minimal gains
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what about front loading it?
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what about front loading it?
dosen't work either. Eq is for long ass 16-20 weekers or more. Nothing will be seen quickly with that stuff.
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I never rated It tbh
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ok fella thanks for the feedback so i guess that i won't be running it
i was advised to run it with test prop and dbol, but i'll just run the prop and maybe switch up drol for dbol
i've never run drol before, so it should be interesting 8)
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Don't know anyone who uses it in 'real life'... Tried it, did next to nothing for me either...all this you need to run over 800mg for over 16 weeks etc etc, what's the point?
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If you can get real good equipose it's awesome. It builds leans muscle gives a nice look to the skin. I can't tolerate it it gives me anxiety and high blood pressure.
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300mg e.w with test for 10 w gives me good result. Nothing incredible but noticeable lean gain but i guess it was overdosed.
The anxiety was just horrible, specially at night before going to bed.
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300mg e.w with test for 10 w gives me good result. Nothing incredible but noticeable lean gain but i guess it was overdosed.
The anxiety was just horrible, specially at night before going to bed.
I think it was the test that gave you good results, lol.... 300mg is nothing and kicks in like 8 weeks later. So 2 weeks of lowly peaked levels unless you have super good receptors is very unlikely to be the cause of what you saw.
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I think it was the test that gave you good results, lol.... 300mg is nothing and kicks in like 8 weeks later. So 2 weeks of lowly peaked levels unless you have super good receptors is very unlikely to be the cause of what you saw.
i think i'm hyper receptive, for example, 10 mg of good dbal for one week is enough too fill up my tshirt, when i was 25, 1ml sust e.o.w + 200mg of deca e.w was enough to make me gain a lot of weight and strenght specially on squat. I even remember the very first day i took aas, it was one caps of pantestone, in 1997, three hours after my body was changed, traps, chest, even my face.
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i think i'm hyper receptive, for example, 10 mg of good dbal for one week is enough too fill up my tshirt, when i was 25, 1ml sust e.o.w + 200mg of deca e.w was enough to make me gain a lot of weight and strenght specially on squat. I even remember the very first day i took aas, it was one caps of pantestone, in 1997, three hours after my body was changed, traps, chest, even my face.
maybe the gear back then was more potent?
an experienced roid user who is giving me some advices told me to change my brand of test prop i'm using as he said the brand he recommend me is of much better quality
yeah, the price is nearly double what i normally pay for prop but if this brand is much better and more potent then it's worth the higher price
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maybe the gear back then was more potent?
an experienced roid user who is giving me some advices told me to change my brand of test prop i'm using as he said the brand he recommend me is of much better quality
yeah, the price is nearly double what i normally pay for prop but if this brand is much better and more potent then it's worth the higher price
i remember a girly cycle i did 12 years ago, one extraboline (deca) and one aburaihan test e.w for 5 week. Enough for me to gain 15kg on bench and 30 on squat and dead. At that time all stuff where pharma grade, sust and pantestone came directly from hollandese pharmacie, primo was real.
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dosen't work either. Eq is for long ass 16-20 weekers or more. Nothing will be seen quickly with that stuff.
def right on point! EQ gets expensive as fuck to run and for what?
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i forgot to add that EQ gave me fucking anxiety at 500mg a week. plus wicked headaches anytime i layed down.
i can run grams on grams of all AAS and not get any of these sides and a measly 500mg of EQ did this
what a shit AAS.
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Winny is my favorite horse steroid hands down....
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Eq improves cardio?? Lol ok so you're telling me lets say you can run 2miles three shots of eq and you can run 3? Such bullshit
lol what are you even talking about? 2 miles three shots of eq and3? Who said that? Yes it does increase lung capacity and increases RBC as well it's intended use is for Horses. Horses who race are given EQ... When i take EQ (offseason) my muscles give up before my lungs do...Which much of the time in offseason when you're heavier the lungs will give up during the set before the muscles do...It will maximize your gains in that aspect..It also is good for vascularity and carves your delts more than if you were JUST on test...WIll see LITTLE TO NOTHING in terms of gains in the first 6-7 weeks...It's about at that 8 week mark will you will most likely notice something if you're running correct doses and your gear is dosed properly as it says it is...If not it will take longer...
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Do you guys feel the same about deca?
I used pharma grade high doses, gained some weight but NOTHING compared to same dose as test
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Do you guys feel the same about deca?
I used pharma grade high doses, gained some weight but NOTHING compared to same dose as test
That's because deca is half as anabolic as test. Was not impressed either with it...
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not sure about deca, only ever used npp. i love npp.
only together with test though. without test everything is complete shit (maybe except tren).
for me, test is essential. there are only additions, no substitutions.
i recently tried low test high npp.
bailed out within a week. back on high test high npp
test is king. npp may be his queen.
and tren is the whole castle :D
all other injectables are just the peasants mucking out the horseshit from the stalls
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not sure about deca, only ever used npp. i love npp.
only together with test though. without test everything is complete shit (maybe except tren).
for me, test is essential. there are only additions, no substitutions.
i recently tried low test high npp.
bailed out within a week. back on high test high npp
test is king. npp may be his queen.
and tren is the whole castle :D
all other injectables are just the peasants mucking out the horseshit from the stalls
Bahahaha, so true and I'm finally starting to see what the rage is over tren... And you were right man. Gotta inject that stuff often. The days I did not shoot, I felt sides. But if I'M gonna use a syringe, not just going to put .6ml of one product. So I add a nice cc of sustanon or enanthate!
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Bahahaha, so true and I'm finally starting to see what the rage is over tren... And you were right man. Gotta inject that stuff often. The days I did not shoot, I felt sides. But if I'M gonna use a syringe, not just going to put .6ml of one product. So I add a nice cc of sustanon or enanthate!
yeah, take care of stable levels, plus youll accustom to the sides over time
i rememeber my first months on tren
couldnt sleep for shit. staring at the ceiling for 2 hours every night, terrible
after being on it for like a year straight i never experienced any sides again, except for the first few days when i get back on it.
i get you on the injecting part lol
when i started using AAS i pinned with insulin syringes, 0.5ml or 1ml at a time
now i consider sticking myself with a needle for any less than 3 or 4mls a fucking waste of injection sites :D
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Multiple Olympia winning champion Dorian Yates doesn't rate it and neither do I.
Garbage.
Yates answer to the 4th question.
DY: I’ll answer. Equipoise or EQ was something I liked for any part of the training year. Good old D-bol was the first drug I ever used, and it’s still my sentimental favorite. All the guys in the USA loved Winstrol. I thought it sucked! The injection sites were always very painful for a while, and I just didn’t think it was anything special.
http://musculardevelopment.com/articles/chemical-enhancement/14337-the-lowdown-on-drugs-part-3-kevin-levrone-shawn-ray-dorian-yates-speak-out.html#.VeNxfH3pyos
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Vascularity and massive hunger, thats what I got...hungry as all hell!
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i never rated it but changed my view after i used it like i would test - base of my cycle/blast
an iranian nabba competitor told me about this and i gave it a try,
used it at over a gram with about 600mg test and it was extremely good. i didn't expect for muscles to get fuller but at high dose it's what happened.
it's not tren, 600mg tren is potent but eq 600mg isn't. it's more like test, 600mg test after you've outgrown the dose won't do much.
same with boldenone (also the undec ester is a very heavy ester, takes up so much of the dose)
bold cyp if you can get it is just so much better than eq undec. even accounting for ester weight it just hits harder and better for me.
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i never rated it but changed my view after i used it like i would test - base of my cycle/blast
an iranian nabba competitor told me about this and i gave it a try,
used it at over a gram with about 600mg test and it was extremely good. i didn't expect for muscles to get fuller but at high dose it's what happened.
it's not tren, 600mg tren is potent but eq 600mg isn't. it's more like test, 600mg test after you've outgrown the dose won't do much.
same with boldenone (also the undec ester is a very heavy ester, takes up so much of the dose)
bold cyp if you can get it is just so much better than eq undec. even accounting for ester weight it just hits harder and better for me.
That's what I hear about those guys in the Middle East. They pump a couple of vials a week of EQ and are not too big on Test.
Is there a lot of pain with the Bold Cyp ester?
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not sure about deca, only ever used npp. i love npp.
only together with test though. without test everything is complete shit (maybe except tren).
for me, test is essential. there are only additions, no substitutions.
i recently tried low test high npp.
bailed out within a week. back on high test high npp
test is king. npp may be his queen.
and tren is the whole castle :D
all other injectables are just the peasants mucking out the horseshit from the stalls
LOL! You must have been Mark Twain in another life.
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That's what I hear about those guys in the Middle East. They pump a couple of vials a week of EQ and are not too big on Test.
Is there a lot of pain with the Bold Cyp ester?
2 bottles a week? Are gym rats doing this or guys who do shows?
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i forgot to add that EQ gave me fucking anxiety at 500mg a week. plus wicked headaches anytime i layed down.
i can run grams on grams of all AAS and not get any of these sides and a measly 500mg of EQ did this
what a shit AAS.
not to alarm you but it's called Polycythemia; caused by red blood cells density out of wack. Good news, ur shit is legit, bad news your kidneys are fucked. the byproducts will do a number on your nephrons unless u use EPO. get off that shit and have a life;
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Ive had it from diffrent labs all of it did nothing
Aren't you that scrawny white dude who posted a face pic a while back? You may be a non responder.
Genetics, brah.
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funny post lol
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Aren't you that scrawny white dude who posted a face pic a while back? You may be a non responder.
Genetics, brah.
LOL... x2. nice flyby. Keeping an eye on ya :)
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2 bottles a week? Are gym rats doing this or guys who do shows?
They're amateurs but in the Mid East they live better than pros. They seem to have a different look over there then in the West. Much harder and dryer without the bloofyness
that you get on high test. That guy that recently died had the most separate quads I have
ever seen. I mean, WTF? What is that muscle that starts from the outer corner of his hip and goes diagonally across to his inner quad just above the vastus medialist (tear drop)?
(http://36.media.tumblr.com/11ebadc97e9f0ae36be4d1cdc7394e79/tumblr_mz4cn5zYxw1sdsncyo1_500.jpg)
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They're amateurs but in the Md East they live better than pros. They seem to have a different look over there then in the West. Much harder and dryer without the bloofyness
that you get on high test. That guy that recently died had the most separate quads I have
ever seen. I mean, WTF? What is that muscle that starts from the outer corner of his hip and goes diagonally across to his inner quad just above the vastus medialist (tear drop)?
(http://36.media.tumblr.com/11ebadc97e9f0ae36be4d1cdc7394e79/tumblr_mz4cn5zYxw1sdsncyo1_500.jpg)
See this is what people will never udnerstand...They talk shit about EQ and say just get more test....Your delts will NEVER look like this with just test..there is much more than 1g of eq in this physique...There is lots of growth in this physique as well...Test is not very low either...
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They're amateurs but in the Md East they live better than pros. They seem to have a different look over there then in the West. Much harder and dryer without the bloofyness
that you get on high test. That guy that recently died had the most separate quads I have
ever seen. I mean, WTF? What is that muscle that starts from the outer corner of his hip and goes diagonally across to his inner quad just above the vastus medialist (tear drop)?
(http://36.media.tumblr.com/11ebadc97e9f0ae36be4d1cdc7394e79/tumblr_mz4cn5zYxw1sdsncyo1_500.jpg)
pellius.. josh has ur info .. just saying so you chill the fuck. the man died. stop using this as a platform.
hOPE u understand why. if you don't, a surgical blade slashing ur neck is the next interaction ur vocal chords will have with the world. no homo.
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pellius.. josh has ur info .. just saying so you chill the fuck. the man died. stop using this as a platform.
hOPE u understand why. if you don't, a surgical blade slashing ur neck is the next interaction ur vocal chords will have with the world. no homo.
So what if he died? I'm using him as an example as to the different, and in my opinion, superior look the bbers from that part of the world have. It's not dishonor to his memory.
But as far as your warning, hmm, let me think about it.....
OK, I did.
Fuck off, phaggot!
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not sure about deca, only ever used npp. i love npp.
only together with test though. without test everything is complete shit (maybe except tren).
for me, test is essential. there are only additions, no substitutions.
i recently tried low test high npp.
bailed out within a week. back on high test high npp
test is king. npp may be his queen.
and tren is the whole castle :D
I find that all the bulking steroids make me uglier. Not really much water retention but even that slight amount is enough to blur out features a bit. With Tren only my face looks good but body is a bit too stringy. So its either I like my body and hate my face or like my face and hate me body lol. FML
all other injectables are just the peasants mucking out the horseshit from the stalls
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I love it, better stamina, feel good on it, vascularity trought the roof..
Its a drug you hate or love
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not to alarm you but it's called Polycythemia; caused by red blood cells density out of wack. Good news, ur shit is legit, bad news your kidneys are fucked. the byproducts will do a number on your nephrons unless u use EPO. get off that shit and have a life;
that was 2 years ago and never happened again, also stopped as soon as i went off the EQ too.
kidneys are still alive :D
as i said, shit AAS.
oh and @ the pic of baito above
LOL if you think this is a result of high EQ low test
my ass
middle eastern BBs look like that because they can blast shittons of pharmacy GH. you can just walk in and buy it there
EQ has FUCKALL to do with that look.
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that was 2 years ago and never happened again, also stopped as soon as i went off the EQ too.
kidneys are still alive :D
as i said, shit AAS.
oh and @ the pic of baito above
LOL if you think this is a result of high EQ low test
my ass
middle eastern BBs look like that because they can blast shittons of pharmacy GH. you can just walk in and buy it there
EQ has FUCKALL to do with that look.
No, never said it was a result of just EQ and low Test. It's just that it's pretty well know that they like EQ and don't like Test as much as Americans. Obviously it takes more than EQ and Test to look like that. And yes, gh, and the abuse of diuretics plays a huge role in their physiques. I believe it has more to do with diuretics. The pros here use plenty of gh and there is a law of diminishing returns. The only limiting factor with diuretics drying you out is death.
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They're amateurs but in the Mid East they live better than pros. They seem to have a different look over there then in the West. Much harder and dryer without the bloofyness
that you get on high test. That guy that recently died had the most separate quads I have
ever seen. I mean, WTF? What is that muscle that starts from the outer corner of his hip and goes diagonally across to his inner quad just above the vastus medialist (tear drop)?
(http://36.media.tumblr.com/11ebadc97e9f0ae36be4d1cdc7394e79/tumblr_mz4cn5zYxw1sdsncyo1_500.jpg)
that guy looks insane!!! ON rx radio once, they addressed the situation in the middle east. No wonder they don't come over here... Everything is paid/funded for them. Houses, car, gear, everything.... The way it should be when you put your LIFE into this.
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its normally two ends of the extremes we jump to!
an AAS is either complete shit or completely incredible!
EQ is neither imo, it's not a 600mg kind of compound like tren or deca (not the undec version anyway)
to get the results everyone wants, try to run it over a gram - only if blood work is ok though! some people get seriously skewed blood work on this, its individual.
with undec over a gram for 16 weeks
with cyp, can get by with 8 weeks.
cyp ester isn't painful, bold ace is horrid!
but cyp is more than bearable.
it's different to test in that you get fuller without the subq water and sides. its just a far better look imo.
if most experienced guys use 600mg test now, it's just a cruising dose, won't do much of anything but maintain.
same goes for EQ,
if blood work permits, treat it like you would test and you'll see that it starts to shine.
cyp over undec as well.