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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: herraisland on September 22, 2015, 06:45:11 PM
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I have tried numerous tren ace from diffirent labs. I have never understood why people love it so much. i usually gain only 4-5lbs(max) on cycle, i have always gained more on npp/deca. im now using trest ace 75mg ed for 2 weeks, i have already gained 12lbs ! so whats up with that ? something wrong with my receptors?
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What were the dosages you were using and what results were you expecting?
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200mg eod and 50mg test p eod... wich is a high dose of tren... i was expecting more than 4-5 lbs... im currently now 235lbs, 5.10 in height and 12-13% BF so far on the trest cycle
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Nobody cares about weight and you shouldn't either. Tren should change your body comp noticeably if you don't see it at 200mg eod I suspect all your tren is bunk
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Weight gain isn't the end all be all. You should appear radically more muscular taking so much tren. If your not, you've either got shit for tren
or you are a shitty responder and need to rethink this whole bodybuilding/drug thing.
I've used 200mg of tren enanthate per week and the results were better than any other i've experienced.
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to gain weight on tren you have to eat a shitton, especially on higher dosages
it also works uniquely for everyone, in order to LOSE weight i actually have to starve myself and/or blast t3 when im on tren because it holds on to muscle mass so well.
my buddy on the other hand eats 5000 kcals a day and doesnt gain a pound on tren because it catapults his metabolism through the roof
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Can't gain weight on tren. But it makes me look different at the same weight: waist smaller, delts popping, etc. You can be skinny as fuck but still look like a bodybuilder on tren.
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Nobody cares about weight and you shouldn't either. Tren should change your body comp noticeably if you don't see it at 200mg eod I suspect all your tren is bunk
that is what im wondering... if i dont gain weight on tren and my body dosent change. i must be a shitty responder. No this cant be bunk tren.. i live in a very small country(300,000people). Bodybuilding is very popular and growing sport here, we currently have 2 LEGIT UGL here, wich most people are on now and i know many people in this sport and they are using the same brand as me. I like all other stuff they have, it works great for me, but the tren does not, like every tren i use. I still always fool myself to buy again, bcz i dont understand why people love it so much and it dosent even work for me.
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that is what im wondering... if i dont gain weight on tren and my body dosent change. i must be a shitty responder. No this cant be bunk tren.. i live in a very small country(300,000people). Bodybuilding is very popular and growing sport here, we currently have 2 LEGIT UGL here, wich most people are on now and i know many people in this sport and they are using the same brand as me. I like all other stuff they have, it works great for me, but the tren does not, like every tren i use. I still always fool myself to buy again, bcz i dont understand why people love it so much and it dosent even work for me.
Could just be genetics then. Maybe just stick with some test? tren is unhealthy anyway. I am only using it atm until I find a healthier alternative
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Could just be genetics then. Maybe just stick with some test? tren is unhealthy anyway. I am only using it atm until I find a healthier alternative
probably wont try it again. no bro, Test only are great... one of my best gains and tranformation was from test only. love it... its cheap and effective, going test only(high dose) on my next blast
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50mg eod test p is fking looooow if you want size. I think you need to bump it.
Wtf with this myth about "Low Test/High Tren only"? ??? ???
You can run High Test with Deca, NPP, EQ, Master, Orals, anything but with Tren no? ::)
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true.
didnt even read the low test part.
low test is WHACK for size gains, no matter what you run with it
nothing can replace the thickness that test gives... not deca, not dbol, nothing.
sure youre slightly more cut without test, but MASS NEEDS TEST
tren needs estrogen to build mass. fact. the cattle implants to beef those fuckers up contain loads of estrogen along with the tren. why? because thats what gives the mass...
low test high tren = dry but stringbean, may be just as good for fat loss and "that look"
high test high tren = dry and huge. tren still gives a certain look, even with the thickness and water of the test...
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Up the test..eat more and make sure you are letting your muscle recover enough between workouts.
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Upp your test like they said to gain weight, add dbol or the best npp/deca w test tren
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probably wont try it again. no bro, Test only are great... one of my best gains and tranformation was from test only. love it... its cheap and effective, going test only(high dose) on my next blast
what's a high dose of test for you?
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true.
didnt even read the low test part.
low test is WHACK for size gains, no matter what you run with it
nothing can replace the thickness that test gives... not deca, not dbol, nothing.
sure youre slightly more cut without test, but MASS NEEDS TEST
tren needs estrogen to build mass. fact. the cattle implants to beef those fuckers up contain loads of estrogen along with the tren. why? because thats what gives the mass...
low test high tren = dry but stringbean, may be just as good for fat loss and "that look"
high test high tren = dry and huge. tren still gives a certain look, even with the thickness and water of the test...
High test high tren has bad mental sides for me. I'm usually pretty chill and zen-like but high test and tren just makes me hate the world. At low test and lowish tren there is a bit more aggression but none of the extreme agressiveness and people-hating that I get on high test high tren
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High test high tren has bad mental sides for me. I'm usually pretty chill and zen-like but high test and tren just makes me hate the world. At low test and lowish tren there is a bit more aggression but none of the extreme agressiveness and people-hating that I get on high test high tren
dunno, i guess its highly individual
more test makes me feel more secure and therefore calm
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what's a high dose of test for you?
1gr i would say. 900mg is the highest I have gone tho.
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50mg eod test p is fking looooow if you want size. I think you need to bump it.
Wtf with this myth about "Low Test/High Tren only"? ??? ???
You can run High Test with Deca, NPP, EQ, Master, Orals, anything but with Tren no? ::)
I don't know about you guys, but for this year I have only been using low test and I have gone from 198 - 231 lbs just this year by using low test ???
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I don't know about you guys, but for this year I have only been using low test and I have gone from 198 - 231 lbs just this year by using low test ???
Test is unrivalled for quick mass gain and thickness. Too bad I can't use anything over true HRT doses or I get acne.
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I evaluate things without considering outside interference and bias. What I know is that I gain maybe a pound or two, but lean right out. Simple as that. Blah, blah, blah, tren doesn't burn fat. Whatever. I just get in-fucking-shape when I take tren.... then I wane to kill myself, my wife, shitty drivers, etc. People react slightly differently to some compounds, but tren generally cuts people up and gets them looking good. Might be something with your training or diet.
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I don't know about you guys, but for this year I have only been using low test and I have gone from 198 - 231 lbs just this year by using low test ???
that's damn good gains
what was your bodyfat at 198 and your bodyfat at 231
also, how low was your test dose?
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that's damn good gains
what was your bodyfat at 198 and your bodyfat at 231
also, how low was your test dose?
Thanks bro. Its went from 12.3% to 13.1%. its to high for me.. I can still see little bit abs. Im going to fix my diet very soon and go to a single digit fat%
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Thanks bro. Its went from 12.3% to 13.1%. its to high for me.. I can still see little bit abs. Im going to fix my diet very soon and go to a single digit fat%
that's even more impressive that you gained that much and your bodyfat remained basically unchanged
how were your strength gains on the big lifts? ie. squat, bench, row, dead, curl, etc?
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that's even more impressive that you gained that much and your bodyfat remained basically unchanged
how were your strength gains on the big lifts? ie. squat, bench, row, dead, curl, etc?
Thanks bud, I dont do heavy lifts. never.. Last time i did 1RM on deadlift it was 5 years ago(20years old) i did 510lbs and i weighted 178lbs. I never Squat i did it when i was younger and, but its not worth the pain i get in my knees. I do leg press. Squat has always been my weakest lift tho, even my best bodypart is quads. Bench press i took 310lbs 2-3 years ago.
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Thanks bud, I dont do heavy lifts. never.. Last time i did 1RM on deadlift it was 5 years ago(20years old) i did 510lbs and i weighted 178lbs. I never Squat i did it when i was younger and, but its not worth the pain i get in my knees. I do leg press. Squat has always been my weakest lift tho, even my best bodypart is quads. Bench press i took 310lbs 2-3 years ago.
i'm not talking one rep maxes, i'm talking training loads for 6-10 reps
and it's for sure that you didn't get that much bigger without increasing your training loads, or did you? ???
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i'm not talking one rep maxes, i'm talking training loads for 6-10 reps
and it's for sure that you didn't get that much bigger without increasing your training loads, or did you? ???
If im not mistaken... I used to have the rep range between 12-6 and i changed to 25- 12 rep, with lot of negatives lifts, supersetting almost through all the workout. I do a really fast phase workout.
My split:
MON chest, back
TUE arms, shoulders
WED Legs
THU chest, back
FRI arms, shoulders
SAT Legs
Rest
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If im not mistaken... I used to have the rep range between 12-6 and i changed to 25- 12 rep, with lot of negatives lifts, supersetting almost through all the workout. I do a really fast phase workout.
My split:
MON chest, back
TUE arms, shoulders
WED Legs
THU chest, back
FRI arms, shoulders
SAT Legs
Rest
so your training loads didn't go up and you gained that much size?
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so your training loads didn't go up and you gained that much size?
Ok I'm mistaken you. What do you mean by "training loads" ? English is my second language and I don't understand some words. Sorry about that.
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Ok I'm mistaken you. What do you mean by "training loads" ? English is my second language and I don't understand some words. Sorry about that.
no worries bro :)
"training loads" means the amount of weight that you are lifting for your target reps
for example benching 200 for 8-10 reps
so if you go from benching 200 for 8-10 reps to 250 for 8-10 reps then your training load has increased
does that make sense?
p.s. if you got bigger without increasing your training loads then you are something very special ;) and in fact, i'm kinda hoping you say that you did, coz if so then that gives me hope that i can just keep squatting 135 for 10 reps and eventually my wheels will get bigger if i just take the right amount of gear ;D
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keep in mind that volume and intensity also matters regarding "training load" not only weight
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no worries bro :)
"training loads" means the amount of weight that you are lifting for your target reps
for example benching 200 for 8-10 reps
so if you go from benching 200 for 8-10 reps to 250 for 8-10 reps then your training load has increased
does that make sense?
p.s. if you got bigger without increasing your training loads then you are something very special ;) and in fact, i'm kinda hoping you say that you did, coz if so then that gives me hope that i can just keep squatting 135 for 10 reps and eventually my wheels will get bigger if i just take the right amount of gear ;D
Haha sorry bro, took my time to understand you lol :)
No my training loads didn't increase, I just learned this year, the weight dosent matter so much. Your form does. Negatives and putting your mind into the exercise. I believe you can grow your wheels by only squatting135 lbs. Because my chest grew huge and I rarely go over 150 lbs in benchpress.
I used to lift heavyweights with lesser reps. It looks like when I was 18 years old I'm stronger then I'm now. Wich is not true, I was only ego lifting. Then I tried to use lesser weight and higher rep and do the lifts with right form, with loads of negatives. Just watch the video:
Kai Greene - í will never be a weightlifter.
I believe that video helped me to grow to 230lbs
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Haha sorry bro, took my time to understand you lol :)
No my training loads didn't increase, I just learned this year, the weight dosent matter so much. Your form does. Negatives and putting your mind into the exercise. I believe you can grow your wheels by only squatting135 lbs. Because my chest grew huge and I rarely go over 150 lbs in benchpress.
I used to lift heavyweights with lesser reps. It looks like when I was 18 years old I'm stronger then I'm now. Wich is not true, I was only ego lifting. Then I tried to use lesser weight and higher rep and do the lifts with right form, with loads of negatives. Just watch the video:
Kai Greene - í will never be a weightlifter.
I believe that video helped me to grow to 230lbs
very interesting, thanks for the replies bro :)
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If im not mistaken... I used to have the rep range between 12-6 and i changed to 25- 12 rep, with lot of negatives lifts, supersetting almost through all the workout. I do a really fast phase workout.
My split:
MON chest, back
TUE arms, shoulders
WED Legs
THU chest, back
FRI arms, shoulders This is just my opinion but if your blasting arms hard enough your not allowing enough rest time also dont know how your front delts have time to recover, especially if incline benching is done.
SAT Legs
Rest
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very interesting, thanks for the replies bro :)
Anytime :) please watch the video if you have not and try something new. I'm a bodybuilder, the weight dosent really matter to me. Don't know about your goal tho.
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Anytime :) please watch the video if you have not and try something new. I'm a bodybuilder, the weight dosent really matter to me. Don't know about your goal tho.
i didn't see a video link? can you post it here?
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i didn't see a video link? can you post it here?
Here you go my man
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Here you go my man
thanks bro, so it's basically stressing the importance of good form which is important