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"We're going to keep rolling."
- Matt Harvey
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Painful as it is for me to say-congrats.
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Harvey / Syndergaard / DeGromm / Matz........
If they get bats and keep Harvey they could be insane in the future.
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Dodgers now trail the New York Mets by two games for home-field advantage in the NLDS, which is effectively three games, because the Mets own the tiebreaker after taking the season series four games to three.
With only six games left to play for both teams, the Mets’ magic number to clinch home field is down to four.
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would really enjoy another subway series, this spoken as a phillies fan...if not that houston vs mets the two 1962 expansion teams going at it.
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would really enjoy another subway series, this spoken as a phillies fan...if not that houston vs mets the two 1962 expansion teams going at it.
I would too, for the fact it means the Yankees got there.
The Mets staff is insane though.
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if the Blue Jays make it to the World Series, my dream opponent would be the lovable Cubbies ...
with every (non-Canadian) baseball/sports fan in the world (plus MLB & Fox) rooting for the Cubs ...
it'd also be sweet beating Joe Maddon (who I don't buy all the hype about)
my second choice would be the Mets ...
New York clearly won the Dickey deal for Syndergaard & d'Arnaud, but Dickey could make the trade more palatable for Jays fans by pitching well against the NYM in the Fall Classic.
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if the Blue Jays make it to the World Series, my dream opponent would be the lovable Cubbies ...
Price vs Arrieta? Very cool.
Cubbies are another team that could be great next year. I think they go after Price / Greinke or both aggressively.
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Price vs Arrieta? Very cool.
Cubbies are another team that could be great next year. I think they go after Price / Greinke or both aggressively.
Price is likely NL bound (dude likes to swing the bat), with (yeah) the Cubs probably being at the top of the list.
Don't see Price signing with any AL team other than giving some consideration to Toronto if the Jays step up in terms of years (which they've always been reluctant to do.)
Price can be a 25 game winner in Toronto if he wants to come back next season. :)
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Price can be a 25 game winner in Toronto if he wants to come back next season. :)
Lol, nobody does that anymore.
Mets - looks like Matz is hurt again.
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If Matz is hurt for real that will make life more difficult for Mets. Colon or Niese will have to step up.
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Lol, nobody does that anymore.
one of my most memorable ballgames that I attended as a wee kid occurred in late September 1978 when the sad sack Blue Jays defeated Ron Guidry in the first game of a twi-night doubleheader, with Louisiana Lightning going 25-3 that year.
yeah, 25 wins would be quite the challenge today ... but ... if it could be done ...
then being the ace for a full season of the offensive juggernaut Jays might be his best shot at it.
(all of the Jays key position players are under contract for at least two more years.)
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1990 bob welch was 27-6 he only pitched 35 games and completed only 2....239 innings pitched...amazing...
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one of my most memorable ballgames that I attended as a wee kid occurred in late September 1978 when the sad sack Blue Jays defeated Ron Guidry in the first game of a twi-night doubleheader, with Louisiana Lightning going 25-3 that year.
yeah, 25 wins would be quite the challenge today ... but ... if it could be done ...
then being the ace for a full season of the offensive juggernaut Jays might be his best shot at it.
(all of the Jays key position players are under contract for at least two more years.)
I was at that famous game at Yankee stadium where Ron Guidry struck out 19 batters but lost the game on two homeruns by Doug DeCinces..
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1990 bob welch was 27-6 he only pitched 35 games and completed only 2....239 innings pitched...amazing...
I remember that famous showdown he had with Reggie Jackson where Reggie kept fouling the ball off but Welch eventually struck him out to end a World Series game...
Reggie returned the favor a few days later by hitting a hiomer off of him
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1990 bob welch was 27-6 he only pitched 35 games and completed only 2....239 innings pitched...amazing...
What's more amazing was how he won 27 games with such "meh" k rates and other peripherals. 127k in 238 IP. K/BB ratio of 1.65.
I'm not looking, but I'd wager he had some amazing run support and luck over the course of that season. Shows why wins are not the best measure of performance.
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What's more amazing was how he won 27 games with such "meh" k rates and other peripherals. 127k in 238 IP. K/BB ratio of 1.65.
I'm not looking, but I'd wager he had some amazing run support and luck over the course of that season. Shows why wins are not the best measure of performance.
Agreed...Dodgers had some great offensive players then....Steve Garvey, Ron Cey, Dusty Baker, Davey Lopes, Jim (the Toy Cannon) Wynn
Bill Russell at short and Steve Yaeger at catcher were no slouches either.....
Pitching....Don Sutton, Tommy John, Bob Welch, Andy Messersmith
Marshall as closer (he of the famous screwball)
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What's more amazing was how he won 27 games with such "meh" k rates and other peripherals. 127k in 238 IP. K/BB ratio of 1.65.
I'm not looking, but I'd wager he had some amazing run support and luck over the course of that season. Shows why wins are not the best measure of performance.
Clemens deserved to win the Cy Young over Welch in 1990.
Other than Wins, Rocket beat him by every measurement.
Clemens put up 8 WAR, while Welch was good for just 1.2
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As for the Mets, I've watched more Mets games this year than i did in the last ten years combined.....the Mets have made baseball exciting for me again...it the only reason I still have cable
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Clemens deserved to win the Cy Young over Welch in 1990.
Other than Wins, Rocket beat him by every measurement.
Clemens put up 8 WAR, while Welch was good for just 1.2
No way was clemens better than Tom Seaver when Seaver was in his prime
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Clemens deserved to win the Cy Young over Welch in 1990.
Other than Wins, Rocket beat him by every measurement.
Clemens put up 8 WAR, while Welch was good for just 1.2
Just looked at them side by side for that year.
You're absolutely right. Clemens wasted him. And Clemens even had the show stats - 21 wins. Writers were/are stupid.
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Mets need 10 more wins now.
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Just looked at them side by side for that year.
You're absolutely right. Clemens wasted him. And Clemens even had the show stats - 21 wins. Writers were/are stupid.
yes but they were in different leagues weren't they???
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yes but they were in different leagues weren't they???
No, Welch was on the A's that year.
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As for the Mets, I've watched more Mets games this year than i did in the last ten years combined.....the Mets have made baseball exciting for me again...it the only reason I still have cable
Even though I root for the pinstripes, I watch a ton of mets too. Mostly because I love the game but also because it's fun to turn on wfan and listen to mets fans lose it. Easily the most self deprecating fan base in ny.
Also, I think I see frank luntz 2 seats next to larry king. Nice seats.
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Even though I root for the pinstripes, I watch a ton of mets too. Mostly because I love the game but also because it's fun to turn on wfan and listen to mets fans lose it. Easily the most self deprecating fan base in ny.
Also, I think I see frank luntz 2 seats next to larry king. Nice seats.
As I root for the pinstripes too......I can't help but respect how f'n awesome a rotation of Harvey / DeGromm / Syndergaard / Matz could be......
This feels like their year the way the playoffs are shaking out. If they spend the $$ on bats next year to compliment guys like Conforto, they will be very tough.
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FUCK UTLEY!!!
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THE AMAZING METS!!!!.....won this last game without Wright, Cespedes, or Duda.......Daniel Murphy was a one man machine!....deGrom and Murphy are probably co-MVP's for this series....just think about what our rotation would be like if Wheeler comes back strong...our pitching rotation would be set for the next 8-10 years ;D
Also the old warrior, Bartolo Colon pitched well in this series as well....oldest pitcher to strike out the side in a playoff game since 1933
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Bring on the Cubs!
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Bring on the Cubs!
Thats what I say
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THE AMAZING METS!!!!.....won this last game without Wright, Cespedes, or Duda.......Daniel Murphy was a one man machine!....deGrom and Murphy are probably co-MVP's for this series....just think about what our rotation would be like if Wheeler comes back strong...our pitching rotation would be set for the next 8-10 years ;D
Also the old warrior, Bartolo Colon pitched well in this series as well....oldest pitcher to strike out the side in a playoff game since 1933
I would say the rotation is set 4 years. Some will leave for free agency, some will get hurt....etc...
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Good pitching beats good hitting. If the Mets starters deliver as promised, and the Mets relievers can hold it down until they get to Familia, I think the Mets can advance.
Also, the Mets middle of the lineup needs to do more than it has been.
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Good pitching beats good hitting.
Myth.
Scoring more runs than your opponent beats the other team. Can happen with good pitching, good hitting, good defense, and luck. Or a combination of any/all of them.
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Mets are in beast mode!
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Mets are in beast mode!
Agreed....Daniel Murphy and deGrom are the MVP's so far.......Mets pitching is just so overwhelming.....
and a lot of peole forget we got Noah Syndergarrd and our starting catcher, d'Arnaund, in the Dickey trade with Toronto
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Agreed....Daniel Murphy and deGrom are the MVP's so far.......Mets pitching is just so overwhelming.....
and a lot of peole forget we got Noah Syndergarrd and our starting catcher, d'Arnaund, in the Dickey trade with Toronto
That was a great deal. Alderson deserves a lot of credit for that one. Would be nice to see them close it out tonight.
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That was a great deal. Alderson deserves a lot of credit for that one. Would be nice to see them close it out tonight.
YEP
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I'm concerned about Cespedes injury. They need him for final push.
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Agreed....Daniel Murphy and deGrom are the MVP's so far.......Mets pitching is just so overwhelming.....
and a lot of peole forget we got Noah Syndergarrd and our starting catcher, d'Arnaund, in the Dickey trade with Toronto
Blue Jays fans haven't forgotten let me assure you. :'(
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Blue Jays fans haven't forgotten let me assure you. :'(
2017 1-2 of Syndergaard / Hoffman........not.
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1962 the historic mets first year,,,, you had to be pretty good to win 10 games on that team.... pic'd is marvelous marv the lowest rated full time first basemen ever...
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Blue Jays fans haven't forgotten let me assure you. :'(
I have to admit I was on the fence about the trade at the time because it was hard to conceive of dealing a 20 game winner......he Mets justified it as them getting younger and that d'Arnuaud was a "can't miss"...Syndergarrd was sort of an afterthought...although it was known he had a good arm......
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I'm concerned about Cespedes injury. They need him for final push.
They ae now saying he hurt it playing golf earlier in the day
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They ae now saying he hurt it playing golf earlier in the day
I hope he's GTG by Tuesday. They need the bats in the AL park.
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2017 1-2 of Syndergaard / Hoffman........not.
i'm fine with the Jays dealing Hoffman just so we could say good riddance to Reyes.
he was killing the team at shortstop and has an unmoveable contract.
but yeah, "Thor" - Stroman - Osuna - Sanchez - even Hutchison (all age 25 and under) would look nice.
I don't even want the Jays to compete that hard to resign Price.
especially if we're talking the $200M neighbourhood.
he's not even the "go to" Ace in the playoffs.
they trusted Stroman more than Price to start game 5 vs Texas.
now ... if Price can pitch a gem tomorrow night to extend the series, maybe i'll change my tune haha
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I have to admit I was on the fence about the trade at the time because it was hard to conceive of dealing a 20 game winner......he Mets justified it as them getting younger and that d'Arnuaud was a "can't miss"...Syndergarrd was sort of an afterthought...although it was known he had a good arm......
for the Jays, just way too much top shelf young talent to give up for a fly ball pitcher coming off a career year with a gimmick pitch and moving him to the bandboxes (and against the power lineups) of the AL East.
but Dickey's eaten over 650 innings during his 3 seasons in Toronto so at least there's that.
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i'm fine with the Jays dealing Hoffman just so we could say good riddance to Reyes.
he was killing the team at shortstop and has an unmoveable contract.
but yeah, "Thor" - Stroman - Osuna - Sanchez - even Hutchison (all age 25 and under) would look nice.
I don't even want the Jays to compete that hard to resign Price.
especially if we're talking the $200M neighbourhood.
he's not even the "go to" Ace in the playoffs.
they trusted Stroman more than Price to start game 5 vs Texas.
now ... if Price can pitch a gem tomorrow night to extend the series, maybe i'll change my tune haha
Since you are a smart baseball mind, I'm guessing you believe the Price thing in the playoffs is likely sample size.
But you never know.....
Anyway, I have the Cubs going all in on him. Just a guess.
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Since you are a smart baseball mind, I'm guessing you believe the Price thing in the playoffs is likely sample size.
But you never know.....
Anyway, I have the Cubs going all in on him. Just a guess.
yeah, it is SSS ... I don't think Price is "choking" or anything.
He has pitched great in some very big games in his past.
Game 163 vs Texas in 2013 comes to mind.
Price's last couple of starts of the regular season weren't strong outings (which probably will cost him the Cy) so he hasn't just suddenly lost it because it's "the playoffs." Not that I think he's lost it haha. But he has pitched a shitload of innings the past few years.
Price is a different kind of cat tho. In interviews after his sub-par opening game loss to Texas in the ALDS, he openly blamed his shaky performance on his "nerves." And that was pitching in front of a friendly home crowd. I know that all the "stars" obviously are human and most probably get butterflies buzzing around, but I don't know if you want your veteran hired gun Ace being so honest with the media and admitting his nervousness (in a negative way) during a big game. How should that make Marcus Stroman feel taking the ball the next day? ... or Osuna, the team's 20 year old closer?
Jays Aces of the past (there have been so few of them) ... Halladay ... Clemens (97-98) ... Hentgen (96) ... Stewart (93) ... Cone & Morris (92) ... Stieb (80s) sure as hell wouldn't admit that.
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i'm rooting for the Mets but looks like the Royals have the "magic."
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i'm rooting for the Mets but looks like the Royals have the "magic."
They do appear to be a pesky bunch....they never gave up....and Harvey might be tired...he never got his fastball above 93-94 MPH....he's usually 96-100
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Cespedes might've just cost himself a few FA dollars with that inopportune brain cramp.