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Well, there you have it - Benghazi investigation isn't about justice - it's about politics. From his own mouth...
Keep that in mind when reading about House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) – the likely next Speaker of the House – and his interview on Fox News last night. Roll Call reported this morning on the Republican leader’s on-air comments:
“What you’re going to see is a conservative Speaker, that takes a conservative Congress, that puts a strategy to fight and win. And let me give you one example. Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right?
“But we put together a Benghazi special committee. A select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping. Why? Because she’s untrustable. But no one would have known that any of that had happened had we not fought to make that happen.”
Michael Kinsley once said a political gaffe occurs when a politician accidentally tells the truth. By this measure, the man who’s likely to become Speaker of the House next month made an important mistake last night.
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Spin doctor - Where does it say "It's about politics" or did you just throw that in?
http://blogs.rollcall.com/218/kevin-mccarthy-gives-boehner-b-credits-benghazi-committee-hurting-hillary-clintons-poll-numbers/?dcz=
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He's supposed to be investigating the attack and who let it happen, and punish them.
He's bragging about how his investigation has hurt her in the polls.
He's taking credit,"we fought to make that happen".
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Spin doctor - Where does it say "It's about politics" or did you just throw that in?
http://blogs.rollcall.com/218/kevin-mccarthy-gives-boehner-b-credits-benghazi-committee-hurting-hillary-clintons-poll-numbers/?dcz=
Why did I know this was going to be some embellished story? lol Not surprised at all.
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"“But we put together a Benghazi special committee. A select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping. Why? Because she’s untrustable. But no one would have known that any of that had happened had we not fought to make that happen.”"
1) sarah Palin is brilliant
2) Hermann cain is innocent
3) McCarthy isn't bragging about how his benghazi investigation screwed up hilary's poll numbers.
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"“But we put together a Benghazi special committee. A select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping. Why? Because she’s untrustable. But no one would have known that any of that had happened had we not fought to make that happen.”"
1) sarah Palin is brilliant
2) Hermann cain is innocent
3) McCarthy isn't bragging about how his benghazi investigation screwed up hilary's poll numbers.
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So three years ago he knew she was running for prez so he just happen to put this committee together to ruin her chances today? Got it!
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So three years ago he knew she was running for prez so he just happen to put this committee together to ruin her chances today? Got it!
Everyone knew hilary was running for president 3 years ago lol!
Also, imagine if the chairman of the Commission on the Intelligence Capabilities of the United States Regarding Weapons of Mass Destruction, bragged about how much he was sinking Bush's poll numbers.
We'd realize he didn't care about findings, and only cared about hurting Bush politically. Thus, we'd feel he was full of shit and untrustworthy on his 'findings', particularly if he promised to deliver teh results 2 weeks before the 2004 election.
Would you trust his findings, or consider him a liberal, politically slanted piece of shit?
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Everyone knew hilary was running for president 3 years ago lol!
Also, imagine if the chairman of the Commission on the Intelligence Capabilities of the United States Regarding Weapons of Mass Destruction, bragged about how much he was sinking Bush's poll numbers.
We'd realize he didn't care about findings, and only cared about hurting Bush politically. Thus, we'd feel he was full of shit and untrustworthy on his 'findings', particularly if he promised to deliver teh results 2 weeks before the 2004 election.
Would you trust his findings, or consider him a liberal, politically slanted piece of shit?
So you think they were more interested three years ago derailing Killary's possible run in 2016 than the killing of four Americans? Are you telling that Killary was some sort of Saint before all this happened?
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So you think they were more interested three years ago derailing Killary's possible run in 2016 than the killing of four Americans? Are you telling that Killary was some sort of Saint before all this happened?
Ah, you just admitted it, coach ;)
You said "more" interested.
If his job is to bring justice to obama/hilary for letting these 4 brave americans die, then politics shouldn't play into it even 1%. His goal should be singular: convict them of their crime.
of course hilary is corrupt and evil - BUT the moment an investigator is even partially biased by politics, his ass needs to step aside. Particularly when he ADMITS it, as he did.
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Ah, you just admitted it, coach ;)
You said "more" interested.
If his job is to bring justice to obama/hilary for letting these 4 brave americans die, then politics shouldn't play into it even 1%. His goal should be singular: convict them of their crime.
MMMMmmm, liberal stonewalling doesn't help
of course hilary is corrupt and evil - BUT the moment an investigator is even partially biased by politics, his ass needs to step aside. Particularly when he ADMITS it, as he did.
You just quit while you're still behind
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Rep chaffertz - perhaps the loudest anti Obama repub in the house - is on tv right now saying McCarthy should apologize and withdraw that statement, as it politicizes the death of these Americans and is NOT what their committee is doing.
Chaffertz is about as credible as one can get. And he's right. McCarthy stepped in shit trying I take credit for Hilary sagging poll numbers and made this entire Benghazi investigation look like a political tool.
McCarthy is palin. All anger and ego.
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Spin doctor - Where does it say "It's about politics" or did you just throw that in?
Is Gowdy a spin doctor too? ;)
Rep. Trey Gowdy on Wednesday offered a vigorous defense of the work of the House Select Committee on Benghazi, and slammed comments from House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy about the political success of the panel as plain "wrong."
During an interview with Fox News' Sean Hannity last week, McCarthy (R-Calif.) boasted that the Benghazi committee has had a negative effect on Hillary Clinton's poll numbers.
"Kevin has apologized as profusely as a human being can apologize. I went back and watched the interview, and what I tell folks back home, no matter how many times you put an earpiece in your ear and stare at a camera, you still screw up. And Kevin screwed up," Gowdy (R-S.C.) said in an interview with MSNBC's "Morning Joe."
"I don't know if it was Hannity pressing him, I don't know if he got thrown off by asking to give Speaker Boehner a grade. I can't unlock the mysteries of that. I can just tell you that if you look at what the members of our committee have done, we were pretty reluctantly brought into the Secretary Clinton part of it," Gowdy added, remarking that "It's because The New York Times and AP and others broke this story that folks' interest in Secretary Clinton picked up in this regard."
The chairman said that Clinton's Oct. 22 hearing before the committee will be "fact-centric, professional and fair."
Asked what his first reaction was to McCarthy's interview on Hannity, Gowdy said it was, "Kevin, you're wrong."
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/trey-gowdy-kevin-mccarthy-wrong-benghazi-hillary-clinton-214498#ixzz3ntXrIDQq
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Is Gowdy a spin doctor too? ;)
Rep. Trey Gowdy on Wednesday offered a vigorous defense of the work of the House Select Committee on Benghazi, and slammed comments from House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy about the political success of the panel as plain "wrong."
During an interview with Fox News' Sean Hannity last week, McCarthy (R-Calif.) boasted that the Benghazi committee has had a negative effect on Hillary Clinton's poll numbers.
"Kevin has apologized as profusely as a human being can apologize. I went back and watched the interview, and what I tell folks back home, no matter how many times you put an earpiece in your ear and stare at a camera, you still screw up. And Kevin screwed up," Gowdy (R-S.C.) said in an interview with MSNBC's "Morning Joe."
"I don't know if it was Hannity pressing him, I don't know if he got thrown off by asking to give Speaker Boehner a grade. I can't unlock the mysteries of that. I can just tell you that if you look at what the members of our committee have done, we were pretty reluctantly brought into the Secretary Clinton part of it," Gowdy added, remarking that "It's because The New York Times and AP and others broke this story that folks' interest in Secretary Clinton picked up in this regard."
The chairman said that Clinton's Oct. 22 hearing before the committee will be "fact-centric, professional and fair."
Asked what his first reaction was to McCarthy's interview on Hannity, Gowdy said it was, "Kevin, you're wrong."
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/trey-gowdy-kevin-mccarthy-wrong-benghazi-hillary-clinton-214498#ixzz3ntXrIDQq
Gowdy didn't say this is political. It's pretty clear this dude doesn't read the links he posts. ::)
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Gowdy didn't say this is political. It's pretty clear this dude doesn't read the links he posts. ::)
Some people will never accept it - Mccarthy stepped in shit here. Chaffertz and Gowdy were his biggest allies and even THEY are shitting on him.
It's okay if some people refuse to admit he did anything wrong. He apologized, his peers criticized him majorly for it. These things don't happen if he's innocent.
Arent many getbiggers coming to mccarthy's defense here - what he did was an idiotic screwup.
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Some people will never accept it - Mccarthy stepped in shit here. Chaffertz and Gowdy were his biggest allies and even THEY are shitting on him.
It's okay if some people refuse to admit he did anything wrong. He apologized, his peers criticized him majorly for it. These things don't happen if he's innocent.
Arent many getbiggers coming to mccarthy's defense here - what he did was an idiotic screwup.
Coach called you a spin doctor, because you claimed McCarthy admitted this was about politics. You then quoted Gowdy, claiming Gowdy also claimed this was about politics. That's not what Gowdy's quote says at all. I don't know if you are just dense, dishonest, or a combination of both. :-\
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the entire GOP leadership is ashamed of Mccarthy. Rightfully so.
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Clinton will use this to her advantage. Thanks GOP.
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Clinton will use this to her advantage. Thanks GOP.
there are still some Hermann-Cain-believers that think McCarthy did nothing wrong.
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Clinton will use this to her advantage. Thanks GOP.
She is already running campaign ads. Good gift for her to help temporarily take attention away from the FBI investigation.
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You mean the FBI Investigation that isn't going anywhere and will result in zero charges being filed?
Yeah, pretty sure she is worried about that one.
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She is already running campaign ads. Good gift for her to help temporarily take attention away from the FBI investigation.
you haev to admit that it was a gaffe on McCarthy's part
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You mean the FBI Investigation that isn't going anywhere and will result in zero charges being filed?
Yeah, pretty sure she is worried about that one.
I think someone is getting charged. Not sure if it will be Hillary, but it will be someone IMO.
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you haev to admit that it was a gaffe on McCarthy's part
Definitely a dumb thing to say given how liberals and the MSM hang on every word a Republican speaks.
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Definitely a dumb thing to say given how liberals and the MSM hang on every word a Republican speaks.
gee whiz, it was repubs also hating on him for it.
hard for someone like you to admit it, but mccarthy did politicize the investigation, and that's a no-no.
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gee whiz, it was repubs also hating on him for it.
hard for someone like you to admit it, but mccarthy did politicize the investigation, and that's a no-no.
Yes you liberals were frothing at the mouth over this. It's what you low information voters do.
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Yes you liberals were frothing at the mouth over this. It's what you low information voters do.
Oh, I guess Goedy is also a low-info voter? I guess chaffertz?
Funny how nobody likes liberals, nobody watches their network, but somehow they have the power to oust the de facto speaker of the house for one widdle comment he made?
Either dems actually do have power, or repubs are toothless, or Mccarthy really stepped in shit here. Probably, all 3.
At the end of the day, I was right, Mccarthy is an idiot who politicized benghazi. His peers admitted it and they kicked him out. just like 240 and the liberals said would happen. You keep on blaming liberals for shitty weather and Cubs sucking balls... we know how effective that strategy was in 2008 and 2012.
libs libs libs.... wah.
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Yes you liberals were frothing at the mouth over this. It's what you low information voters do.
While Rob may be a troll when it comes to politics, he is probably one of the most informed people about Politics around.
That's a very inaccurate statement you're making there.
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While Rob may be a troll when it comes to politics, he is probably one of the most informed people about Politics around.
That's a very inaccurate statement you're making there.
Now this is the funniest thing I've heard all week. ;D
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Now this is the funniest thing I've heard all week. ;D
Factual statements are funny to you?
Rob reads more politics than anyone else... How do you think he can troll you so well?
If you think you are more informed than he is, you're just trying to fool yourself.
He reads politics sections all over the web constantly... day and night.
That much is obvious. Even to you.
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Factual statements are funny to you?
Rob reads more politics than anyone else... How do you think he can troll you so well?
If you think you are more informed than he is, you're just trying to fool yourself.
He reads politics sections all over the web constantly... day and night.
That much is obvious. Even to you.
Still laughing. lol . . . . ;D
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Still laughing. lol . . . . ;D
This is why no one takes you seriously as a mod here to be honest.
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This is why no one takes you seriously as a mod here to be honest.
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Your over usage of the emoticons is also quite telling.
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Your over usage of the emoticons is also quite telling.
:D
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Your over usage of the emoticons is also quite telling.
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Definitely a dumb thing to say given how liberals and the MSM hang on every word a Republican speaks.
This is true...I have to admit I do this as well....because they make so many gaffes and idiotic statemnets that you just KNOW its coming if they talk long enough ;D
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Exactly.
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This is true...I have to admit I do this as well....because they make so many gaffes and idiotic statemnets that you just KNOW its coming if they talk long enough ;D
It's a part of the political process, but it's a small-minded way of evaluating candidates and politicians. At least you're honest about it.
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It's a part of the political process, but it's a small-minded way of evaluating candidates and politicians. At least you're honest about it.
HOWEVER...oftentimes you can learn alot about a person when you just let them talk off the cuff.....they sometimes inadvertantly tell you what they are really thinking in their subconscious mind...classic Freudian Free Association theory ;D
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HOWEVER...oftentimes you can learn alot about a person when you just let them talk off the cuff.....they sometimes inadvertantly tell you what they are really thinking in their subconscious mind...classic freudian Free Association theory ;D
True.
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Another republican admits it. Your arguments against it are sunk.
A second congressman admitted on Wednesday that the Republican House committee created to investigate the 2012 terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya, is solely "designed to go after" Hillary Clinton.
“This may not be politically correct, but I think that there was a big part of this investigation that was designed to go after people and an individual, Hillary Clinton,” Rep. Richard Hanna (R-N.Y.) said on a morning radio show in upstate New York.
Republicans say they formed the House Select Committee on Benghazi to investigate the attack. Democrats have complained that the committee, which has cost taxpayers about $4.5 million during its 17 months of existence, was primarily a political stunt.
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Definitely a dumb thing to say given how liberals and the MSM hang on every word a Republican speaks.
your bias is oozing out, are you unable to see things objectively and from another's position?
This is a ridiculous thing to say, to even mention poll numbers due to an investigation, which has gone on far to long, has found absolutely nothing and has wasted millions of people's money is absurd. It's obvious to anyone with a brain this is the obvious reason, why would it go on for so long? longer then 9/11? why, what evidence permits that? nothing, they can produce nothing. The only fruit they bared is the potential impact this non-sense will have on Hilary.
If you were one of the parents of the dead soldiers would you want this to continue? do you think they like hearing that benghazi has political benefits? Don't take this as me supporting Hilary etc. this is an absurd statement, a fucking slightly psychopathic one to be honest.
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your bias is oozing out,
Attempting to defend the indefensible is quite common of him actually.
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your bias is oozing out, are you unable to see things objectively and from another's position?
This is a ridiculous thing to say, to even mention poll numbers due to an investigation, which has gone on far to long, has found absolutely nothing and has wasted millions of people's money is absurd. It's obvious to anyone with a brain this is the obvious reason, why would it go on for so long? longer then 9/11? why, what evidence permits that? nothing, they can produce nothing. The only fruit they bared is the potential impact this non-sense will have on Hilary.
If you were one of the parents of the dead soldiers would you want this to continue? do you think they like hearing that benghazi has political benefits? Don't take this as me supporting Hilary etc. this is an absurd statement, a fucking slightly psychopathic one to be honest.
Good point...this "investigation" has gone on way too long....and as you say, they figured out the perpetrators and motive for 9/11 that killed almost 3000 people quicker than an embassy bombing that killed 4 people....at first if you remember, the Republicans tried to go after Obama...when no one was buying that now all of a sudden they turn their attention to Hillary...embassy bombings happen all over the world ALL THE TIME..no one turns it into a political circus like we do.....
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Another republican admits it. Your arguments against it are sunk.
A second congressman admitted on Wednesday that the Republican House committee created to investigate the 2012 terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya, is solely "designed to go after" Hillary Clinton.
“This may not be politically correct, but I think that there was a big part of this investigation that was designed to go after people and an individual, Hillary Clinton,” Rep. Richard Hanna (R-N.Y.) said on a morning radio show in upstate New York.
Republicans say they formed the House Select Committee on Benghazi to investigate the attack. Democrats have complained that the committee, which has cost taxpayers about $4.5 million during its 17 months of existence, was primarily a political stunt.
Its amazing that they already found that basically ti was the CIA who initially stated that the bombing was based on a reaction to a film........embassies are always lightly guarded..they are vulnerable to attack
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*crickets* from republicans on this?
A second republican congressman just admitted it was a political trial.
Maybe they could claim Mccarthy was misunderstood, but this quote is SO direct and clear.
I *still* think they let benghazi happen to cover up what was going on there and to avoid a messy shooting right before the election - BUT this investigation is bullshit political crap.
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*crickets* from republicans on this?
A second republican congressman just admitted it was a political trial.
Maybe they could claim Mccarthy was misunderstood, but this quote is SO direct and clear.
I *still* think they let benghazi happen to cover up what was going on there and to avoid a messy shooting right before the election - BUT this investigation is bullshit political crap.
Don't worry. More spin and denial and distortion of facts will be forthcoming soon.
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your bias is oozing out, are you unable to see things objectively and from another's position?
This is a ridiculous thing to say, to even mention poll numbers due to an investigation, which has gone on far to long, has found absolutely nothing and has wasted millions of people's money is absurd. It's obvious to anyone with a brain this is the obvious reason, why would it go on for so long? longer then 9/11? why, what evidence permits that? nothing, they can produce nothing. The only fruit they bared is the potential impact this non-sense will have on Hilary.
If you were one of the parents of the dead soldiers would you want this to continue? do you think they like hearing that benghazi has political benefits? Don't take this as me supporting Hilary etc. this is an absurd statement, a fucking slightly psychopathic one to be honest.
It's a completely accurate thing to say. If you don't see how liberals and the MSM hang on every word a Republican speaks, then you aren't paying attention.
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It's a completely accurate thing to say. If you don't see how liberals and the MSM hang on every word a Republican speaks, then you aren't paying attention.
Morning Joe is pretty much "let's talk about the top 3 stupid things repubs said yesterday" when they're not bashing Sanders for being beaten so badly, according to 5 out of 5 Clinton donor CEOs they interviewed.
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It's a completely accurate thing to say. If you don't see how liberals and the MSM hang on every word a Republican speaks, then you aren't paying attention.
That really doesn't matter...what matters is that the Republicans ALWAYS come up with some gaffe, no matter what the subject
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That really doesn't matter...what matters is that the Republicans ALWAYS come up with some gaffe, no matter what the subject
Meh. Depends on how you define gaffe. And whether it should be newsworthy. Or attributed to the entire party.
One thing is clear: there is a double standard.
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One thing is clear: The republicans made Benghazi about politics (then bragged about it admitted it).
They politicized the deaths of those heroes. Disgusting.
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Damn, so yet another attempt by the peanut gallery to smear Clinton backfires.
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One thing is clear: The republicans made Benghazi about politics (then bragged about it admitted it).
They politicized the deaths of those heroes. Disgusting.
while I think obama is 100% guilty of letting this happen for whatever reason...
it's so weird that obama and so many other people along the chain all aren't on national display today. only the one who is running for president. only the one that mccarthy admitted targeting for political reasons and TAKING CREDIT for her sag in polls as a result of his investigative efforts.
she was 5 minutes out of brain surgery the last time she testified, and gave the "what does it matter" comment. Something tells me she will not be so unprepared today. When she gives us a "well, Mccarthy and other members of the repub caucus, a former investigator, they've all confimed this is a politically motivated exercise for poll numbers..." and we hear one of the questioners go from rant mode to defense mode...
hilary is a prop today, while these congressional idiots grandstand. Repubs will act offended like they give a shit about the 4 dead heroes, Dems will act outraged anyone would accuse her of it, and NOBODY talking about lame duck Obama who would have been the decision maker that day. Because he's not a valuable political target anymore ;)
Also, the prior EIGHT benghazi reports... this is #9, correct?
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Hey, they will eventually reach the same number as the useless repel Obamacare votes.
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Hey, they will eventually reach the same number as the useless repel Obamacare votes.
I'm all for investigating shit like Benghazi.
But they don't bother General patraeus, who was head of teh CIA. They don't bother obama, who was president.
They only target the person who is their biggest (and really, only) threat to winning the White house.
that's my beef with it. They're politicizing the deaths of 4 heroes. They just want to blame it all on her. IF it's true that benghazi was allowed to happen, this doesn't stop at hilary, it stops at obama. But they aren't bothering with obama because he's not running for president.
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Gowdy whining a lot today. not coming across as likable. Reading what sounds like a 7th grade speech on how the other 8 investigations the republicans led were all insufficient. Trying to justify why he's even here today, doing the Benghazi investigation for the NINTH TIME.
The repub caucus did not like the answers they found in the first 8 investigations.
So they set up this committee with no budget limitations, and it's lasted longer than any investigation in US history.
And it's all designed to derail Hilary 2016. I agree there. While I think hilary was following obama's "do nothing" order that day... todays' exercise is nothing more than working on the 2016 election, period. Even repubs are admitting it ;)
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Meh. Depends on how you define gaffe.
Republicans in congress called this a gaffe. I guess your standards are even higher than republican congressmen.
I wonder if your standards for "gaffe" were equally high when you delivered that wonder Joe Biden gaffe thread ;)
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This just in: Benghazi Committee uncovers incontrovertible evidence Secretary Clinton ORDERED the Benghazi attacks!!
Not really, but Obama did declare today is National #BENGHAZI!!!! Day. Have you hugged an Ambassador today?
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Gowdy whining a lot today. not coming across as likable. Reading what sounds like a 7th grade speech on how the other 8 investigations the republicans led were all insufficient. Trying to justify why he's even here today, doing the Benghazi investigation for the NINTH TIME.
The repub caucus did not like the answers they found in the first 8 investigations.
So they set up this committee with no budget limitations, and it's lasted longer than any investigation in US history.
And it's all designed to derail Hilary 2016. I agree there. While I think hilary was following obama's "do nothing" order that day... todays' exercise is nothing more than working on the 2016 election, period. Even repubs are admitting it ;)
Tell me again, I forget - just one concrete result or change in procedure that ever emerged from the accountability review board or any one of the previous and future 7-8-9-12-42 Congressional investigations on Benghazi. And if there are none, what was the purpose of all these investigations? What? Hillary who?
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This just in: Benghazi Committee uncovers incontrovertible evidence Secretary Clinton ORDERED the Benghazi attacks!!
Not really, but Obama did declare today is National #BENGHAZI!!!! Day. Have you hugged an Ambassador today?
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Repubs on getbig:
"I didn't watch the hearings, but I damn sure have an opinion on it!!"
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Repubs on getbig:
"I didn't watch the hearings, but I damn sure have a BIASED opinion on it!!"
Fixed
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This just in: Obama to build an $8 billion UNGUARDED embassy to Libya in Benghazi.
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This just in: Obama to build an $8 billion UNGUARDED embassy to Libya in Benghazi.
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Which is really a cover for a fake birth certificate factory.
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11 hours of beating on her, hoping they'd get a gotcha moment when she tired. Didn't happen.
Gowdy could name zero new info he obtained from today's hearing.
Why happens now? Keep on going with the investigation?
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11 hours of beating on her, hoping they'd get a gotcha moment when she tired. Didn't happen.
Gowdy could name zero new info he obtained from today's hearing.
Why happens now? Keep on going with the investigation?
Today has to be a brutal morning for them to wake up and realize that the American public can now see even more clearly how useless the GOP is.
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Today has to be a brutal morning for them to wake up and realize that the American public can now see even more clearly how useless the GOP is.
Let;s not focus on issues but winning politics. They have ZERO fucking IDEAS.
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Let;s not focus on issues but winning politics. They have ZERO fucking IDEAS.
Just look at the twits on here that found the Dem debate to be "boring" and "unimpressive".
Yeah, they don't want to talk about issues or ideas, they want the name calling incompetent clown car candidates.
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Let;s not focus on issues but winning politics. They have ZERO fucking IDEAS.
Agreed....The GOP has not come up with an idea since Obama has been in office yet say no to everything