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Title: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Set It Up on November 05, 2015, 02:17:38 PM
Seth Rollins: Professional Wrestler to Vacate WWE Title After Sustaining Injuries, Report Says
Rollins, the WWE World Heavyweight Champion, tore his ACL, MCL and meniscus at a Wednesday event in Dublin, ESPN's Jonathan Coachman reported. He will be sidelined for six to nine months.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 05, 2015, 03:07:30 PM
Seth Rollins: Professional Wrestler to Vacate WWE Title After Sustaining Injuries, Report Says
Rollins, the WWE World Heavyweight Champion, tore his ACL, MCL and meniscus at a Wednesday event in Dublin, ESPN's Jonathan Coachman reported. He will be sidelined for six to nine months.


You're on the ball. I just heard this.

The WWE is gonna have push some new blood.

No Rollins. No Orton. No Cena. No Lesnar for a few months.

Should be interesting to see how they fill the spots and the three hours of Raw.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Playboy on November 05, 2015, 03:08:49 PM
Seth Rollins: Professional Wrestler to Vacate WWE Title After Sustaining Injuries, Report Says
Rollins, the WWE World Heavyweight Champion, tore his ACL, MCL and meniscus at a Wednesday event in Dublin, ESPN's Jonathan Coachman reported. He will be sidelined for six to nine months.
Yup, confirmed. Now you have Rollins, Orton, Cena and Nikki Bella out with injuries. Yes, Cena is riddled with injuries and although he's doing some reality fit show he is also banged up. Not good.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 05, 2015, 03:18:00 PM
I think James Storm will be getting a call.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: calfzilla on November 05, 2015, 04:55:27 PM
Holy shit!  Feel bad for Rollins but this stuff happens.

Silver lining is that someone else can get a push and if the wwe is smart they can easily and successfully turn Seth face when he returns.


Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 05, 2015, 05:38:07 PM
In his Podcast, Austin said it's almost always something uneventful that causes a real injury. Apparently, that's the case, here.

A reminder of what Rollins can do, and hopefully will do, again.

&sns=em

As an aside, when he does return, it's gonna be hard for him to be a heel with all the sympathy he's getting.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: calfzilla on November 05, 2015, 05:44:08 PM
In his Podcast, Austin said it's almost always something uneventful that causes a real injury. Apparently, that's the case, here.

A reminder of what Rollins can do, and hopefully will do, again.

&sns=em

As an aside, when he does return, it's gonna be hard for him to be a heel with all the sympathy he's getting.
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Agree. WWE can be pretty dumb as of late, but are they dumb enough not to turn him face when he returns?  I guess we will find out.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Playboy on November 06, 2015, 04:29:14 AM
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Agree. WWE can be pretty dumb as of late, but are they dumb enough not to turn him face when he returns?  I guess we will find out.
That is a serious knee injury and I even highly doubt he'll back back for WM. He may never be the same again.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Playboy on November 06, 2015, 04:41:06 AM
Apparantly now they are planning a tournament at Survivor Series to crown a new champion.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: gmflex on November 06, 2015, 07:36:01 AM
Just saw the updated wrestlemania poster..
No Rollins. Replaced with a pic of page....
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 06, 2015, 09:16:46 AM
Apparantly now they are planning a tournament at Survivor Series to crown a new champion.

You'd think the tourney would be to see who goes up against Reigns who already was in the title match as a result of winning a tourney, but, if they did that, it wouldn't be fair to the tourney winner who would have to face a fresh Reigns.

They need to have a tourney before Survivor series, and the winner faces Reigns.

Tough spot for Vince.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: calfzilla on November 06, 2015, 10:44:19 AM
He is not going to be at Wrestlemania. Plans were to have Rollins vs Triple H but that has been scrapped since he won't be back by mania.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Playboy on November 06, 2015, 10:55:43 AM
You'd think the tourney would be to see who goes up against Reigns who already was in the title match as a result of winning a tourney, but, if they did that, it wouldn't be fair to the tourney winner who would have to face a fresh Reigns.

They need to have a tourney before Survivor series, and the winner faces Reigns.

Tough spot for Vince.
I have a funny feeling that Reigns will win but Sheamus will cash in and run with the title till WM.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: deadz on November 06, 2015, 01:33:10 PM
I have a funny feeling that Reigns will win but Sheamus will cash in and run with the title till WM.
Yes, there is really no one else to fill the role. I'm always surprised that we rarely see anyone bleed during a match, not like when Dusty Rhodes got into the ring. I'm going to miss Nicki, at least Natalia is still rolling around on the Mat.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: calfzilla on November 06, 2015, 01:44:17 PM
I have a funny feeling that Reigns will win but Sheamus will cash in and run with the title till WM.

I don't think anyone wants to see Sheamus in a Mania Main event.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 06, 2015, 02:03:59 PM
No one, outside of Ireland, wants to see Sheamus, period. I forgot he was holding the stupid briefcase.

If you want to give the title to a guy who has been the best recent performer, and who's actually over with the fans: Cesaro.

That said, I would get him a manager.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: calfzilla on November 06, 2015, 02:21:06 PM
Not gonna happen, Vince is not big on Cesaro.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 06, 2015, 02:30:06 PM
Not gonna happen, Vince is not big on Cesaro.

Let's look at the candidates:

Reigns(clearly the favorite)
Ambrose
Owens
Ryback
Wyatt
Sheamus
Barrett
Cesaro
Miz
Ziggler
Kane
Big Show
Del Rio

Injured:
Rusev
Orton
Bryan

Hiatus:
Cena

Part time
Lesnar
Taker

Which way would you go?
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: calfzilla on November 06, 2015, 02:37:11 PM
If it were me I would put the strap on Wyatt. He's the most over heel and would be a good feud when Rollins returns as a face.

Of course they will just fuck it up and give it to Roman.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 06, 2015, 03:01:34 PM
Giving it to Reigns,under these circumstances, would be very anti-climactic. With Rollins, you had a good backstory and a legit champ.

Now, it's just Reigns beating a midcarder(s).
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: njflex on November 06, 2015, 05:01:54 PM
sad to say ryback might get bigger push..owens .or wyatt family maybe too
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: calfzilla on November 06, 2015, 05:20:56 PM
sad to say ryback might get bigger push..owens .or wyatt family maybe too

Please not Ryback!

I'm ok with:
Wyatt
Ambrose
Del Rio
Owens

They probably will go with Roman but like someone said that's so predictable.

Hmm maybe Triple H wants another run at it.  :D
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: njflex on November 06, 2015, 05:22:23 PM
Please not Ryback!

I'm ok with:
Wyatt
Ambrose
Del Rio
Owens

They probably will go with Roman but like someone said that's so predictable.

Hmm maybe Triple H wants another run at it.  :D
del rio is good,casero is athletically the best ..
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: calfzilla on November 06, 2015, 05:24:37 PM
del rio is good,casero is athletically the best ..

Didn't you hear vince bury Cesro on the stone cold podcast because he can't talk?  Not gonna happen for Cesaro anytime soon.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: njflex on November 06, 2015, 05:27:19 PM
Didn't you hear vince bury Cesro on the stone cold podcast because he can't talk?  Not gonna happen for Cesaro anytime soon.
no mic skills ur right thats why they paired him that little but built guy and his valet/wife few months ago,,other guy was talker..
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: TuHolmes on November 06, 2015, 06:20:18 PM
no mic skills ur right thats why they paired him that little but built guy and his valet/wife few months ago,,other guy was talker..

But Cesaro doesn't NEED mic skills.

That's the point.

Vince is so stupid. Cesaro can be over just by being a great worker... With almost zero push, he has groups every week holding the "Cesaro Section" signs.

Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: littleguns on November 07, 2015, 02:04:46 AM
Sting....surprise appearance, wins it, goes into Wrestlemania as champ, loses cleanly to Reigns thus giving him the rub and Sting officially closes out his career
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: njflex on November 07, 2015, 06:40:32 AM
Sting....surprise appearance, wins it, goes into Wrestlemania as champ, loses cleanly to Reigns thus giving him the rub and Sting officially closes out his career
sting ::)...i never liked him from the get go...i'll give him credit on the makeover rebel over the rafters initially 'crow'persona,,but i think that was too long too..
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Montague on November 07, 2015, 06:44:18 AM
But Cesaro doesn't NEED mic skills.

That's the point.

Vince is so stupid. Cesaro can be over just by being a great worker... With almost zero push, he has groups every week holding the "Cesaro Section" signs.




In that regard, he kind of reminds me of Benoit.
I've caught some of Cesaro's work and find it quite impressive.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 07, 2015, 07:58:57 AM
A few people have mentioned Wyatt. The problem I see with him is that his character has never shown any interest in titles. He's kind of like the WWE version of an internet troll, in that his primary purpose in life is fvcking with people: Reigns, Taker, Cena etc.


As an aside, another wrestler who suffered a bad injury is Kota Ibushi, of New Japan. He's out "indefinitely" with a herniated disk, I believe, in his neck.

If you're not familiar with him, he's easily one of the ten best performers in the world. His matches with AJ Styles and Nakamura are two of  the best I've ever seen.

Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: littleguns on November 08, 2015, 07:21:51 AM
Wyatt puts himself (or perhaps creative) in a "tweener" stage, 1/2 the audience loves him while the other 1/2 dislike him. He needs to pick a path, either telling the fans in a PG way to 'F" off or embrace them. He is another one, WWE pushes, then cools him down, like Ziggy, Caesaro etc. It is getting hard as fans to get behind someone when the push eventually ends......


Regarding Sting, you need to listen to the Stone Cold podcast with Bischoff (may have been another) but he says the year Sting was in the rafters during the NWO Angle, he let himself go. When it came time to wrestle, I believe Hogan at Starcade, he blew up quick and the match stunk....
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: calfzilla on November 08, 2015, 07:35:40 AM
I honestly though that one day Seth would be injured doing crossfit since that is all he does, says he has completely given up bodybuilding style training.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Playboy on November 08, 2015, 10:40:02 AM
As it stands right now, IMHO I think they should put the title on Wyatt. It will make it difficult for challengers to take the title off him do to constant interference from the rest of the Wyatt family. They can keep the title on him till WM at which point, they can access who they want as their champ. Plus there is still Sheamus who has the briefcase and who is constantly licking HHH's bag and is his workout partner when they are on the road.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 08, 2015, 12:09:51 PM
Another issue with putting the title on Wyatt, is that he's had no interactions with HHH and Steph. It's as though he exists in a different world. At some point, a relationship would have to be established.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: calfzilla on November 08, 2015, 12:56:42 PM
I don't like seeing Seth hurt but the WWE really has some options to do some cool storylines. Like what Playboy said give Bray the belt and let him hang on to it for a while tell Rollins comes back as a face or even let Roman win it from Bray.

I agree with what Thin Lizzy said that Bray never shows interest in titles so it would be perfect for him to just be put in a tournament and end up winning it and then the belt becomes something like an idol to him and the Wyatt family. Bray is good enough that he could cut a decent promo on what the belt means to him after he wins it; sort of like how his fans are not fans but "fireflies".
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Playboy on November 08, 2015, 03:25:14 PM
I don't like seeing Seth hurt but the WWE really has some options to do some cool storylines. Like what Playboy said give Bray the belt and let him hang on to it for a while tell Rollins comes back as a face or even let Roman win it from Bray.

I agree with what Thin Lizzy said that Bray never shows interest in titles so it would be perfect for him to just be put in a tournament and end up winning it and then the belt becomes something like an idol to him and the Wyatt family. Bray is good enough that he could cut a decent promo on what the belt means to him after he wins it; sort of like how his fans are not fans but "fireflies".
Regardless I have a funny feeling Sheamus will cash in at some point.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: littleguns on November 09, 2015, 03:36:24 AM
Regardless I have a funny feeling Sheamus will cash in at some point.

Keep Sheamus and Barrett as a tag team, have them battle for the belts for a while then break them up...right now as singles they are useless. Money in Bank briefcase has lost it's luster.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Playboy on November 09, 2015, 04:33:54 AM
Keep Sheamus and Barrett as a tag team, have them battle for the belts for a while then break them up...right now as singles they are useless. Money in Bank briefcase has lost it's luster.
Wade Barrett is another one they need to utilize a lot better. They keep giving him these ridiculous gimmicks that just don't suit him.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: njflex on November 09, 2015, 09:19:38 AM
Wade Barrett is another one they need to utilize a lot better. They keep giving him these ridiculous gimmicks that just don't suit him.
initially with nxt they all came over the group him as leader'pretty boy'but with skills and pushed over well,,then he comes back with abs and a bit more defined grew goatee and became a more rugged ring worker.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Playboy on November 09, 2015, 09:30:08 AM
initially with nxt they all came over the group him as leader'pretty boy'but with skills and pushed over well,,then he comes back with abs and a bit more defined grew goatee and became a more rugged ring worker.
Barrett also was one of the wrestlers who came out and spoke out against Cena saying that Cena stiffled his advancement on the roster. Barrett also inadvertadly injured Cena (for real) during a match so I can see him being "punished".
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: njflex on November 09, 2015, 09:36:54 AM
Barrett also was one of the wrestlers who came out and spoke out against Cena saying that Cena stiffled his advancement on the roster. Barrett also inadvertadly injured Cena (for real) during a match so I can see him being "punished".
I CAN SEE IT,,,HOGAN/CENA,CENA/HOGAN...
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Playboy on November 09, 2015, 12:57:59 PM
I just got word that at WM32, Cena is wrestling the Undertaker. Will be Taker's last hurrah in his hometown of Texas.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: calfzilla on November 09, 2015, 12:59:16 PM
I just got word that at WM32, Cena is wrestling the Undertaker. Will be Taker's last hurrah in his hometown of Texas.

And not a single fuck was given by the wwe universe. I heard it may not be the main event tho.
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Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 09, 2015, 03:07:03 PM
And not a single fuck was given by the wwe universe. I heard it may not be the main event tho.

While I don't care about the match, itself, I am interested to see how they book it, Face/Heel.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Montague on November 09, 2015, 04:26:29 PM
I just got word that at WM32, Cena is wrestling the Undertaker. Will be Taker's last hurrah in his hometown of Texas.


Whose boots will see ceiling that night?
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Playboy on November 09, 2015, 06:20:57 PM

Whose boots will see ceiling that night?
I agree with the earlier post in "no one will give a fuck" but if they give the win to Cena, i'll put a hole in my Sony Bravia....and that speaks volumes. Mark my words, they will bring back former "stars" like Austin, The Rock, Brock and load up the card just to sell tickets and attempt to sellout a 70 thousand capacity dome. I wouldn't even be surprised if they brought back Foley and or Goldberg. No one in their right mind will spend thousands of dollars on tickets for the biggest show of the year only to watch mediocrity at its best. 
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: calfzilla on November 09, 2015, 10:33:35 PM
The problem is this: In 15 years will people be wanting to see today's Stars return as legends?  ???
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: calfzilla on November 09, 2015, 10:36:02 PM
While I don't care about the match, itself, I am interested to see how they book it, Face/Heel.

I don't think it will be a heel face match. Probably some lame ass angle like Cena says Undertaker I have so much respect for you, would be an honor to wrestle you at Wrestlemania  ::)

I would love for Cena to turn heel but it won't happen.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Montague on November 10, 2015, 02:21:04 AM
I agree with the earlier post in "no one will give a fuck" but if they give the win to Cena, i'll put a hole in my Sony Bravia....and that speaks volumes. Mark my words, they will bring back former "stars" like Austin, The Rock, Brock and load up the card just to sell tickets and attempt to sellout a 70 thousand capacity dome. I wouldn't even be surprised if they brought back Foley and or Goldberg. No one in their right mind will spend thousands of dollars on tickets for the biggest show of the year only to watch mediocrity at its best. 


Mediocrity is perhaps the best word that describes the current WWE.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Playboy on November 10, 2015, 04:32:05 AM

Mediocrity is perhaps the best word that describes the current WWE.
Right how with Seth Rollins hurt, Cena on a tiny hiatus and Orton hurt, this will give a hungry wrestler the chance to shine and secure a spot on the upper card / main event. When Austin finally decided to get his neck surgery in 2000, that is when a rising star named HHH and The Rock really broke out of their shell and catapolted themselves to super stardom. Now is the oppurtunity. Question is, who will take advantage of it and shine? Or will we continue to see mediocrity and guys who are too comfortable and are there just to collect a check.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 10, 2015, 04:33:24 AM
Fell out about half way through the show, but, I should have known HHH would use this situation as an opportunity to put himself over.

He just can't help himself. It has to be about him.

What's the point of even having this tournament if it still comes down to him and Steph picking their guy.

This authority angle just needs to go away. It's not as though it's been a success. Quite the contrary. As we all know, ratings are in the toilet.

Speaking of "What's the Point?" Why exactly did Paige get pinned leading up to a title shot?
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: njflex on November 10, 2015, 06:06:43 AM
the last segment had some good lead up to taker and kane  by wyatt,but the finish   ::)  oh boy they really cleaned house  :-\,barely hitting the wyatts and they could barely sell the over the top rope falls ,and that was there revenge on him a two man choke slam oh boy look out he's crippled.lame..the other too long and winded was those 3 dopes 'new day'why they get a long intro is beyond me...
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Playboy on November 10, 2015, 09:48:41 AM
Fell out about half way through the show, but, I should have known HHH would use this situation as an opportunity to put himself over.

He just can't help himself. It has to be about him.

What's the point of even having this tournament if it still comes down to him and Steph picking their guy.

This authority angle just needs to go away. It's not as though it's been a success. Quite the contrary. As we all know, ratings are in the toilet.

Speaking of "What's the Point?" Why exactly did Paige get pinned leading up to a title shot?
Very good point here Lizzy. Makes no sense for Paige to loose as it discredits her bigtime leading up to the big title match and devalues her as a worth contender.

What blows my mind is that HHH and Stephanie, on top of getting their very large yearly salaries, they also collect bonus, gate pays and have an added "talant salary" because they are on screen characters. Then they wonder why the talent pool like C.M. Punk back in the day get pissed and frusterated. They are taking the talants money which they really do not need at all.
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Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 10, 2015, 10:11:01 AM
Very good point here Lizzy. Makes no sense for Paige to loose as it discredits her bigtime leading up to the big title match and devalues her as a worth contender.

What blows my mind is that HHH and Stephanie, on top of getting their very large yearly salaries, they also collect bonus, gate pays and have an added "talant salary" because they are on screen characters. Then they wonder why the talent pool like C.M. Punk back in the day get pissed and frusterated. They are taking the talants money which they really do not need at all.

Looking at the full results, it seems like a deliberate effort was made to piss off the English, and Irish, fans, there.

Paige got beat by a Jobber, Sheamus got beat. Barrett got slapped, and Neville got pinned by a midcarder.

This has HHH's hands all over it. Vince prefers to send the fans home happy.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Playboy on November 10, 2015, 12:58:10 PM
Looking at the full results, it seems like a deliberate effort was made to piss off the English, and Irish, fans, there.

Paige got beat by a Jobber, Sheamus got beat. Barrett got slapped, and Neville got pinned by a midcarder.

This has HHH's hands all over it. Vince prefers to send the fans home happy.
Not necessarily. Remember, Vince and Steph may run the day to day operations, but Vince has the final say on everything.
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Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 10, 2015, 01:30:21 PM
Not necessarily. Remember, Vince and Steph may run the day to day operations, but Vince has the final say on everything.

True, but he is 70. You have to think he's slowing down a bit.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Playboy on November 11, 2015, 04:06:11 AM
True, but he is 70. You have to think he's slowing down a bit.
And that is not a good sign. He needs to resign and let others with large experience take over and if there are none, then he needs to hire and fire asap.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: njflex on November 11, 2015, 05:20:30 AM
is the son done in the buissness ?
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 11, 2015, 05:41:31 AM
is the son done in the buissness ?

I actually met Shane, a few times. He used to take private BJJ lessons where I used to train.

This is not to say I know him well, but he seemed like a nice, easy going guy. I know don't if that type of personality is best for running a pro wrestling company.

My guess is that he got tired of being under the old man's thumb and wanted to do his own thing. Can't say I blame him.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: njflex on November 11, 2015, 05:48:16 AM
I actually met Shane, a few times. He used to take private BJJ lessons where I used to train.

This is not to say I know him well, but he seemed like a nice, easy going guy. I know don't if that type of personality is best for running a pro wrestling company.

My guess is that he got tired of being under the old man's thumb and wanted to do his own thing. Can't say I blame him.
he loved that shane'o mac persona for a while...kinda like a pretrump and his kids on apprentice...
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Montague on November 11, 2015, 09:54:31 AM
I actually met Shane, a few times. He used to take private BJJ lessons where I used to train.

This is not to say I know him well, but he seemed like a nice, easy going guy. I know don't if that type of personality is best for running a pro wrestling company.

My guess is that he got tired of being under the old man's thumb and wanted to do his own thing. Can't say I blame him.


I'd always gotten the impression that the old man coddled and favored Steph. There's been stories about her ideas clashing strongly with Shane's & Heyman's, and it sounds like Vince often took her side.

I think Shane got a bit tired of that, and maybe saw the writing on the wall when Triple H married into the family. That may have seemed like a losing battle on his end.
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Post by: funk51 on November 11, 2015, 12:57:59 PM

I'd always gotten the impression that the old man coddled and favored Steph. There's been stories about her ideas clashing strongly with Shane's & Heyman's, and it sounds like Vince often took her side.

I think Shane got a bit tired of that, and maybe saw the writing on the wall when Triple H married into the family. That may have seemed like a losing battle on his end.
i think if shane would have stayed with the company , he would be crippled by now...took some crazy bumps trying to justify his existence to the old man...
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Montague on November 11, 2015, 02:05:53 PM
i think if shane would have stayed with the company , he would be crippled by now...took some crazy bumps trying to justify his existence to the old man...


My buddies and I always thought that the reason he did it was so that one day, when he "owned" the company and asked guys to step up to the plate, he could point to those bumps that he took and say, "Hey, look – I did it! Now, quit complaining!"
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Playboy on November 12, 2015, 04:37:56 AM

My buddies and I always thought that the reason he did it was so that one day, when he "owned" the company and asked guys to step up to the plate, he could point to those bumps that he took and say, "Hey, look – I did it! Now, quit complaining!"
I will never forget when he wrestled Kurt Angle and Angle bellie to bellied him through a pint of glass...and it took 3 attemps for the glass to break. 2 of those times Shane hit the glass full force and landed on his head. Props to Shane.
I agree with Monte in that Shane saw the writing on the wall and got out while he could.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 12, 2015, 06:11:54 AM
Wouldn't mind seeing Del Rio or Owens take the belt.

Don't know how bad Ziggler kicked VKM's cat but he isn't budging from his glorified jobber spot it seems.   Roman will most likely take the belt.

Ever notice that when Roman wrestles, it is hit, kick, kick, hit, hit, hit, kick, hit, hit,.... sort of like Sting without make up?

Smart move would be to put Goldberg on payroll and keep him off for eight months until he has sauced himself back up to WCW condition and then let him tear through the ranks.   Of course, "smart" isn't something you associate with WWE writers.  And VKM pussy ass grudges have to come before "what's best for the business".

random thoughts here....
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Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 12, 2015, 10:08:46 AM
I don't need to see another 50 year old, like Goldberg

They need a Daniel Bryan type who's still a serviceable performer. I'd just bring up the NXT guys: Balor, Samoa Joe, and James Storm. Maybe one catches fire.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: TuHolmes on November 12, 2015, 10:18:24 AM
I don't need to see another 50 year old, like Goldberg

They need a Daniel Bryan type who's still a serviceable performer. I'd just bring up the NXT guys: Balor, Samoa Joe, and James Storm. Maybe one catches fire.

Storm isn't catching fire ever. Samoa Joe isn't what Vince is looking for.

Balor definitely might, but really, the size they typically want isn't there. You know how Vince loves his big guys.
Title: Re: Rollins Gives Up Title
Post by: Playboy on November 12, 2015, 10:37:40 AM
Storm isn't catching fire ever. Samoa Joe isn't what Vince is looking for.

Balor definitely might, but really, the size they typically want isn't there. You know how Vince loves his big guys.
Problem with Daniel Bryan is he is damaged goods now with that bad neck.