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Read this once before, but it was years ago. Now reading it a second time.
I know some on here won't read it simply because they expect Bret to do a lot of whining (he does at times). So in a nutshell, I will do a running commentary as I cover parts of it and highlight some interesting things.
- IMO - Stu Hart was a borderline schmoe from the way he would try to stretch and hurt young guys. I have heard this from other books/sources as well that it was nothing to see Stu finish a session with a hard on portruding from his trunks.
Bret doesn't say this exactly, but he does remark that Stu seemed to enjoy certain sessions with young pretty boys a "little too much". Many trainees simply let Stu have his way with them rather trying to resist or fight back/power out of his shoot holds because they were afraid he wouldn't train them and their wrestling dreams would disappear.
Jim Neidhart was benching over 450 pounds for several reps BEFORE Tom (Dynamite Kid) got him on the steroids. Jim was a legit tough guy and the strongest one to come through the Hart dungeon.
Davey Boy was originally 160lbs when he arrived, was the legitimate cousin to Tom and Tom hated him. Tom turned him onto steroids and in six months he weighed 220.
Bret often had to give Tom his injections because he used so much steroids that his ass would have knots and scar tissue every where. Bret said you could feel the needle breaking through the scar tissue like pushing through card board.
After training sessions when the Hart brothers had to shower in the dungeon, the two older Harts would always restrain and piss in the eyes and mouth of Bret and his younger brother. (You read that correctly, I can't believe he wrote it. Not once or a few times, but every single time they had to shower together)
In the beginning, Bret hated going to Japan because the young wrestlers there would no sell his offense and beat the hell out of him.
Iron Mike Sharp was the WORST wrestler to work with because he was the stiffest wrestler anyone could have for an opponent and most people refused to work with him.
more to come as I read
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Wow..
Sick ..
The pissing part. :-X
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Was this in his big autobiography?
I only read it once, but I don't recall the pissing and pretty boy parts. Maybe I innately erased them from memory in the interest of preserving nostalgia. ;D
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I have heard that, when demonstrating holds, Stu was fond of instructing the trainee to "offer" his arm, etc. so that Stu could apply the hold. Critics claim Stu wasn't truly the "shooter" that he was famous for.
It's the difference between knowing holds and actually being able to use them during a fight.
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I have heard that, when demonstrating holds, Stu was fond of instructing the trainee to "offer" his arm, etc. so that Stu could apply the hold. Critics claim Stu wasn't truly the "shooter" that he was famous for.
It's the difference between knowing holds and actually being able to use them during a fight.
Yes, the trainee often subjected himself to the abuse simply because he had no other option as Stu was the only shot of getting into the wrestling biz at the time in that area for many.
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Was this in his big autobiography?
I only read it once, but I don't recall the pissing and pretty boy parts. Maybe I innately erased them from memory in the interest of preserving nostalgia. ;D
It's there. I read the big book the first time. This is the e-book ripped from Pirate Bay I am reading now on my iPad. There are no page numbers on it so I can cite the exact page. But when I get a chance I will go back and do a screen capture.
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Other stuff :
Bret admits to openly riding Tom's coattails into the Japan wrestling scene. Said Tom was the one that spoke up for him and got him a guarantee of $500 a week for his tour there.
Tiger Mask really was that good. A true revolutionary in the ring with his style and moves.
When Abdullah the Butcher toured Japan he required a massage therapist to work on him before every match for extended periods. Before really big matches with high profile coverage, Inoki supplied a doctor to inject Abbie with a massive dose of adrenaline in order to enhance his "crazed" mannerisms. Like his eyes twitching and darting all over the place, his head constantly moving, etc... After the matches Abbie would look like he was about to die in the back while doctors held him down with an oxygen mask over his face and brought him down from the high and often stitched his forehead back up.
The match between Inoki and Ali was a total shitfest. Inoki approached it as a shoot fight. Ali approached it as a work in his favor. After realizing that Ali's mouth had gotten him in trouble with accepting the match, his camp had all the rules secretly changed. Inoki could not hit, grapple, throw, tackle or have both hands on Ali at the same time. He could only kick Ali if he had one knee on the mat. Standing kicks and drop kicks were not allowed. Even then Ali's camp was worried and the black muslims approached Inoki in the dressing room prior to the match and threatened his life if he laid a single finger on Ali.
Ali only threw six punches in the entire 15 rounds. (I think it said 15. May have said 12. Not sure).
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It's there. I read the big book the first time. This is the e-book ripped from Pirate Bay I am reading now on my iPad. There are no page numbers on it so I can cite the exact page. But when I get a chance I will go back and do a screen capture.
That's okay - I believe you.
I guess I only paid close attention to certain parts of the book.
I don't remember the part about shooting Butch with adrenaline, either. Although, I do recall the Ali/Inoki fight.
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Did you ever watch that match?
It really did suck. Inoki spent most of the time on his back kicking at Ali's legs.
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Read this once before, but it was years ago. Now reading it a second time.
I know some on here won't read it simply because they expect Bret to do a lot of whining (he does at times). So in a nutshell, I will do a running commentary as I cover parts of it and highlight some interesting things.
- IMO - Stu Hart was a borderline schmoe from the way he would try to stretch and hurt young guys. I have heard this from other books/sources as well that it was nothing to see Stu finish a session with a hard on portruding from his trunks.
Bret doesn't say this exactly, but he does remark that Stu seemed to enjoy certain sessions with young pretty boys a "little too much". Many trainees simply let Stu have his way with them rather trying to resist or fight back/power out of his shoot holds because they were afraid he wouldn't train them and their wrestling dreams would disappear.
Jim Neidhart was benching over 450 pounds for several reps BEFORE Tom (Dynamite Kid) got him on the steroids. Jim was a legit tough guy and the strongest one to come through the Hart dungeon.
Davey Boy was originally 160lbs when he arrived, was the legitimate cousin to Tom and Tom hated him. Tom turned him onto steroids and in six months he weighed 220.
Bret often had to give Tom his injections because he used so much steroids that his ass would have knots and scar tissue every where. Bret said you could feel the needle breaking through the scar tissue like pushing through card board.
After training sessions when the Hart brothers had to shower in the dungeon, the two older Harts would always restrain and piss in the eyes and mouth of Bret and his younger brother. (You read that correctly, I can't believe he wrote it. Not once or a few times, but every single time they had to shower together)
In the beginning, Bret hated going to Japan because the young wrestlers there would no sell his offense and beat the hell out of him.
Iron Mike Sharp was the WORST wrestler to work with because he was the stiffest wrestler anyone could have for an opponent and most people refused to work with him.
more to come as I read
Monte, everything you say is spot on here. I just recently re-read it too as I have the book as well. Dynamite kid was taking 3 injections to each buttocks cheek every single day, hense the crazy scar tissue. Testosterone and injectable d-bol.
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Ok, here is the screen capture. No sure if the page # at the bottom is accurate and matches the one in the hard cover book.
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Finished another couple of chapters :
Diane (who married Davey) was a c unt long before emerging into the spotlight with her antics.
Bad News Allen really was bad news and was basically the first nail in the coffin that killed Stampede. (for using his fork on the Stomper in a match and piledriving the Stompers "son" onto the cement floor) A legit judo expert, pro black racist, and he reallllllyyyy didn't like to have his head touched.
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Finished another couple of chapters :
Diane (who married Davey) was a c unt long before emerging into the spotlight with her antics.
Bad News Allen really was bad news and was basically the first nail in the coffin that killed Stampede. (for using his fork on the Stomper in a match and piledriving the Stompers "son" onto the cement floor) A legit judo expert, pro black racist, and he reallllllyyyy didn't like to have his head touched.
Oh yes, absolutely.
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Finished another couple of chapters :
Diane (who married Davey) was a c unt long before emerging into the spotlight with her antics.
Bad News Allen really was bad news and was basically the first nail in the coffin that killed Stampede. (for using his fork on the Stomper in a match and piledriving the Stompers "son" onto the cement floor) A legit judo expert, pro black racist, and he reallllllyyyy didn't like to have his head touched.
I've expressed my disgust over Diana on this board before. Check out her "autobiography" sometime.
As for News, he was a legit bad-ass, but it seems to me that he took care of the people he liked and respected. Don Callis, who played "The Jackyl" in the Fed and was on ECW TV towards its end, has talked very candidly about Allen and has only good things to say about him.
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I've expressed my disgust over Diana on this board before. Check out her "autobiography" sometime.
As for News, he was a legit bad-ass, but it seems to me that he took care of the people he liked and respected. Don Callis, who played "The Jackyl" in the Fed and was on ECW TV towards its end, has talked very candidly about Allen and has only good things to say about him.
I remember way back hearing stories of how he litterally challenged Andre the Giant to a real fight because Andre made a racist remark on a bus they were all riding. Andre would not leave his seat and later appoligized to Bad News.
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I remember way back hearing stories of how he litterally challenged Andre the Giant to a real fight because Andre made a racist remark on a bus they were all riding. Andre would not leave his seat and later appoligized to Bad News.
Yeah! Callis told that story on one of Jericho's recent podcasts. I forget the exact details, but it was a good listen. Lance Storm was on the same episode - very entertaining.
Jericho also did another good one recently with Dean Malenko and Chavo Guerrero to commemorate the 10th anniversary of Eddie's passing.
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I remember way back hearing stories of how he litterally challenged Andre the Giant to a real fight because Andre made a racist remark on a bus they were all riding. Andre would not leave his seat and later appoligized to Bad News.
BAD NEWS BROWN WAS OTHER NAME NO?HE WAS LEGIT ,FOUGHT IN THE ORIGINAL 90'S NO HOLDS BARRED ULTIMATE FIGHTING UFC EVENTS..
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BAD NEWS BROWN WAS OTHER NAME NO?HE WAS LEGIT ,FOUGHT IN THE ORIGINAL 90'S NO HOLDS BARRED ULTIMATE FIGHTING UFC EVENTS..
Yes, he went by Bad New Allen in Calgary.
He was a legit judoka, but I don't remember him competing in any UFC events.
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I am sure we have all seen the match where Dynamite injured his back. Well at the least the match where his back just finally gave out. The original injury that put it all in motion was from having a match against Davey Boy and Davey lifted him up for a vertical suplex put was too exhausted and lost control, they both toppled over the top rope and Dynamite landed upside down, square on the edge of the ring apron with his lower back. After that, it was all down hill.
Bret also told a story of when they were in Japan and wrestling a high profile match on the Japan tour. They were in the mid card area of the matches, with more high profile matches to come. They warned Dynamite not to get juice because they were saving that for the main event. Before he walked down the aisle, they stopped him and searched him looking for hidden blades. Convinced he was clean, they let him proceed to the ring. Half way through the match, still pissed off being told what he could and couldn't do, he jammed his thumb all the way up his nose and popped it around. Blood gushed out and the lower part of his face and chest were drenched in it.
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I started a British Bulldog thread here eons ago, and I believe the first post contained the video showing Tom's back giving out in a match against the Dream Team.
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guy was In great shape,lean and thickly built 'muscularity wise'no bloofy like Davey boy.looked hardcore like benoit all out on everything to push his craft ...
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guy was In great shape,lean and thickly built 'muscularity wise'no bloofy like Davey boy.looked hardcore like benoit all out on everything to push his craft ...
Who are you referring to, brother?
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Who are you referring to, brother?
dynamite kid..
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dynamite kid..
Oh...agree X 1,000
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I started a British Bulldog thread here eons ago, and I believe the first post contained the video showing Tom's back giving out in a match against the Dream Team.
He mangled it even more in late Nov 1986 in Hamilton Ontario in a match with Ace Orton and Moracco. Looked harmless too but it shelved him for 3 months and built up his dependancy on pain killers and somas.
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seems like the older generation put it all on the line moreso than this group now...cactus jack/mankind was a throwback..
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I'm honestly surprised that Mick Foley can still walk.
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I'm honestly surprised that Mick Foley can still walk.
Slightly Off Topic... but since someone brought Foley up.
I met him about 15 years ago when he was still wrestling.
I was working at a local theme park handling security for a special events. The WWF at the time was putting on a smallish 5000 person show at our outdoor stage, and he was on the card.
He was a super nice guy and actually probably one of the most child like (in regards to just wanting to have fun) people I ever met working there.
He was so excited to be at the park, that we kept the rides all open an extra hour just so he could be guaranteed to get to ride them all.
Side note... Also met Big Show there... Also a nice guy, but absolutely massive. TV doesn't do him justice.
When he shook my hand, it was like you holding the hand of a baby. You could tell he purposefully shakes hands very gently so as not to accidentally crush your adult size hand in his.
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He mangled it even more in late Nov 1986 in Hamilton Ontario in a match with Ace Orton and Moracco. Looked harmless too but it shelved him for 3 months and built up his dependancy on pain killers and somas.
You know what...I'm sorry.
The match you mentioned is the one I linked. I just found it one night surfing for something else.
It was very old, low-quality home video footage, but you could see everything unfold exactly as Tom recounted in his book.
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You know what...I'm sorry.
The match you mentioned is the one I linked. I just found it one night surfing for something else.
It was very old, low-quality home video footage, but you could see everything unfold exactly as Tom recounted in his book.
Lol...no need to apoligize bro...I wasn't "correcting" you :D ;)
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Smith and Maria actually named their child Satanic Ecstasy.
Dr. Z (the roid doc) was a known price gouger. Everyone hated his prices but bought from him because they knew they were legit and he sold as much as you wanted. Bret stated that he gave him 4 "crisp hundred dollar bills" and he got :
20 vials of test
20 vials of deca
4 vials hcg
(fuck that is a great deal for $400. Price gouging or not. This was in 1984)
He also stated that some wrestlers like Quick Draw would purchase so much shit from the doc that they would leave with shopping bags of drugs hanging off their arms. So much that they couldn't fit it in their bags or suitcases and would instead mail it back home. Xanax, Placidyls, Somas, Valium, methadone, speed, etc.. not just roids. He said that roids only accounted for about 30% of what all the wrestlers bought.
Quick Draw would take so many Placidyls that he would pass out head down on a table, in his food nearly every night. He eventually OD'd from this.
The industry was quick to label David Von Erich's death an "accidental" overdose in an effort to save Fritz from negative publicity. David was a huge dope head. They tried (and failed) to cover up Mike Von Erichs over dose death over a year later, but it didn't work. Mike left a suicide note that read "Mom and Dad, I am in a better place. I'll be watching."
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Smith and Maria actually named their child Satanic Ecstasy.
Dr. Z (the roid doc) was a known price gouger. Everyone hated his prices but bought from him because they knew they were legit and he sold as much as you wanted. Bret stated that he gave him 4 "crisp hundred dollar bills" and he got :
20 vials of test
20 vials of deca
4 vials hcg
(fuck that is a great deal for $400. Price gouging or not. This was in 1984)
He also stated that some wrestlers like Quick Draw would purchase so much shit from the doc that they would leave with shopping bags of drugs hanging off their arms. So much that they couldn't fit it in their bags or suitcases and would instead mail it back home. Xanax, Placidyls, Somas, Valium, methadone, speed, etc.. not just roids. He said that roids only accounted for about 30% of what all the wrestlers bought.
Quick Draw would take so many Placidyls that he would pass out head down on a table, in his food nearly every night. He eventually OD'd from this.
The industry was quick to label David Von Erich's death an "accidental" overdose in an effort to save Fritz from negative publicity. David was a huge dope head. They tried (and failed) to cover up Mike Von Erichs over dose death over a year later, but it didn't work. Mike left a suicide note that read "Mom and Dad, I am in a better place. I'll be watching."
Bullseye, I read the exact same thing.
In the Steroid trial Zahorian said his biggest years were 1985 - 1987 as that is when he made the mose in steroid sales to WWF wrestlers. 210,000 in profit to be exact.
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Smith and Maria actually named their child Satanic Ecstasy.
Dr. Z (the roid doc) was a known price gouger. Everyone hated his prices but bought from him because they knew they were legit and he sold as much as you wanted. Bret stated that he gave him 4 "crisp hundred dollar bills" and he got :
20 vials of test
20 vials of deca
4 vials hcg
(fuck that is a great deal for $400. Price gouging or not. This was in 1984)
He also stated that some wrestlers like Quick Draw would purchase so much shit from the doc that they would leave with shopping bags of drugs hanging off their arms. So much that they couldn't fit it in their bags or suitcases and would instead mail it back home. Xanax, Placidyls, Somas, Valium, methadone, speed, etc.. not just roids. He said that roids only accounted for about 30% of what all the wrestlers bought.
Quick Draw would take so many Placidyls that he would pass out head down on a table, in his food nearly every night. He eventually OD'd from this.
The industry was quick to label David Von Erich's death an "accidental" overdose in an effort to save Fritz from negative publicity. David was a huge dope head. They tried (and failed) to cover up Mike Von Erichs over dose death over a year later, but it didn't work. Mike left a suicide note that read "Mom and Dad, I am in a better place. I'll be watching."
I remember ALL of this - my mind isn't going, after all!!
I just swear that some of the earlier stuff you recounted came from a different book. I wonder what else I've forgotten! :(
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I remember ALL of this - my mind isn't going, after all!!
I just swear that some of the earlier stuff you recounted came from a different book. I wonder what else I've forgotten! :(
Didn't Hart have two books done? "My Cartoon World of Wrestling" and another?
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Bullseye, I read the exact same thing.
In the Steroid trial Zahorian said his biggest years were 1985 - 1987 as that is when he made the mose in steroid sales to WWF wrestlers. 210,000 in profit to be exact.
The timeframe seems spot on. Those were the years when Hercules was a top guy:
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l142/thinlizzy21/df5883a0bf8a4dd60d3ecba20ba6397c_zps459wy9nk.jpg)
Here he is before getting ahold of the good stuff. Notice the difference in his face.
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l142/thinlizzy21/8f95261feeeac460c5c2145a484e68cc_zpsap0csn3s.jpg)
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Didn't Hart have two books done? "My Cartoon World of Wrestling" and another?
I honestly don't know. I know that I only own one.
If he came out with another, I'm not sure I'd bother with it.
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The timeframe seems spot on. Those were the years when Hercules was a top guy:
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l142/thinlizzy21/df5883a0bf8a4dd60d3ecba20ba6397c_zps459wy9nk.jpg)
Here he is before getting ahold of the good stuff. Notice the difference in his face.
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l142/thinlizzy21/8f95261feeeac460c5c2145a484e68cc_zpsap0csn3s.jpg)
Hercules was another guy that was known to work his legs, like twice a year. His legs were pure genetics.
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On a side note, does anyone else remember Hercules always seemed to have a strange walk to him? Like he would keep his lower back drastically arched with his butt sticking out sometimes when he strutted/stalked around the ring. My mother saw it once and said that he must have terrible hemorrhoids to have to walk like that.
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I remember Bobby Heenan once describing Hercules (out of character).
One of the stories he told was of Herc walking around with a cut on one side of his forehead and a bandage on the opposite side of his head. ;D
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I remember Bobby Heenan once describing Hercules (out of character).
One of the stories he told was of Herc walking around with a cut on one side of his forehead and a bandage on the opposite side of his head. ;D
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I read this visualizing the Brain delivering it.
I laughed.
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I read this visualizing the Brain delivering it.
I laughed.
Search for his shoot video on YouTube. They filmed it shortly before he lost his ability to speak.
His books - especially the first one - are GOLD!!!
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Tom has said (various times) that Jacques knocked his teeth out while using brass knuckles. Or a roll of quarters. Or a lead pipe. (the story changes every time Tom tells it). But Bret said Jacques didn't use anything. That he just walked up and suckerpunched Tom with his bare fist. While Pat Patterson jumped around like a hysterical woman.
Vince had a huge hard on for Tom McGhee (or maybe McGee - can't remember the spelling) He had Tom Mc pegged as his future world champion who was going to carry the WWF into the next decade. Tom was actually so clumsy that every time he bent over to tie his boots, the boys in the locker room would place bets on whether or not he would wind up putting a small package on himself and pinning himself on the floor. He was that clumsy.
Wrestling Dino Bravo where Bret wound up with a fractured sternum, 5 cracked ribs, and a severely bruised heart, he was told he would miss 3 months while he healed. Despite Vince's promise about taking care of him, Vince simply gave him $200 a week. Bret had to return within 18 days. He wrestled for years while carrying these injuries that constantly got aggravated and never healed properly.
Vince paid wrestlers a percentage of the house gate when doing living shows. There was no concrete or established formula. Like mid carders get xxx percentage. It was simply what Vince felt like paying. And he often withheld the pay from wrestlers for several months. Not all of them. Some would get their percentage in the next couple of days. Some had to wait 3 months or so, just for a small $1200 check that Vince held up for no other reason than to be a control freak.
Tom was introduced to steroids by JYD and to speed by Jake The Snake.
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Can't blame Vince on Tom Magee. I saw him, in person, in a gym, and, as I've said here, before, to this day, he is the single most impressive looking human being I've ever seen:
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Vince had a HUGE hard on for Tom M.
Hogan was allegedly filling his pants/trunks at the prospect of losing his spot.
As far as the old man withholding payouts, I've heard he would sometimes take the house money from bigger shows and invest it in (for instance) 90-day CD's to collect some interest on the revenue before distributing the checks.
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Physically, Magee in his prime, makes anyone on the current roster look like shit.
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l142/thinlizzy21/57caa9901ca45375bedbcdf56fbbf859_zpshaljauoe.jpg)
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Vince had a HUGE hard on for Tom M.
Hogan was allegedly filling his pants/trunks at the prospect of losing his spot.
As far as the old man withholding payouts, I've heard he would sometimes take the house money from bigger shows and invest it in (for instance) 90-day CD's to collect some interest on the revenue before distributing the checks.
When the old man dies...
There will be a lot of old timers celebrating his death..
With the exception of Hogan.. Vince was a real prick..
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When the old man dies...
There will be a lot of old timers celebrating his death..
With the exception of Hogan.. Vince was a real prick..
Hogan too....especially after all the mistreatments after all that Hogan did for Vince. Hogan is all about the cash. Always was. Vince was always a tool too so it pans out.
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To be fair, a lot of wrestlers seem to think Vince has an obligation to support them for life. When you're a private contractor, you do a job and move on. I was one, myself. I didn't expect anything from customers once the job was done, and I got paid.
It's also not Vince's fault that many of these guys had no plan for once they were too old to make a living throwing their bodies around.
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To be fair, a lot of wrestlers seem to think Vince has an obligation to support them for life. When you're a private contractor, you do a job and move on. I was one, myself. I didn't expect anything from customers once the job was done, and I got paid.
It's also not Vince's fault that many of these guys had no plan for once they were too old to make a living throwing their bodies around.
I agree.
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Sorry I have been away.
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Yoko was 450lbs when he entered the WWF. After winning the belt, he went up to 600lbs in only four months from eating hot dogs in the locker room all the time. He would drink Diet Coke thinking it helped him out.
Mike Von Erick is rumored to have been on drugs (no surprise) when he committed suicide by zipping himself in a sleeping bag that he had filled with rocks and rolling off the side of a boat into the water.
Earthquake was a legit tough guy.
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Didn't Earthquake legit wrestle sumo in Japan?
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Didn't Earthquake legit wrestle sumo in Japan?
I believe he did prior to his WWF/WWE days.
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Didn't Earthquake legit wrestle sumo in Japan?
Yes, it is mentioned in the book he even faced down a very popular and undefeated sumo champ there who wanted to try him for real and the sumo champ got scared and chickened out.
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Bob Backlund slammed Hart so hard in one match that it broke his pelvis. His hip would make a loud "CLICK" noise with every step.
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Regarding the Shawn Michaels fight with the Marines : (according to eye witnesses and Davey Boy)
Shawn had been making passes at one of their girlfriends and yapping off to them. When Davey, Waltman and Shawn left the bar, the group of Marines (some say it was 4 to as many as 9) pulled Shawn from the car and beat and kicked him. Shawn was so out of his mind on pills that he didn't even have the sense to put his hands up to protect his face he simply let them pound his head all over the place. Then they drug him over to the car and positioned his head so they could slam the door on it.
Waltman tried to help by throwing some pathetic karate kicks, but they pushed him over like a scarecrow where he (wisely) stayed down. Davey got swarmed by several, but despite their efforts to take him off his feet they couldn't and he remained standing.
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I always like the part of the story where Cowboy Bob orton comes out of the Hotel room hammered high and buck naked and the cops try to shoot him with the tranqulizer and he just stands there like "is that all you got"
Somthing like that.
Good book, but honestly it killed every good thought ever portrayed about his storied family, IMO I bet there was even more dark shit that went on in that house with all the freaks and weirdos that stayed there that is buried very deep in some surviving Hart's psyche. It's just hinted in the book and in that wrestling with shadows documentary.
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Shawn was never the same after that beating. Before that he was very respectful towards Hart and the others. The initial turning point came when he fell under the influence of Kevin Nash and Scott Hall. But after the assault he went over the edge with his diva demands. After the assault, his drug use of pill popping which was already alarming went into over drive. Vince assigned a guy (named Tim I think... can't remember) to follow Shawn and carry his bags, get him to his room, make sure he made his plane, etc... this guy's previous job was doing the exact same thing for Andre The Giant. Basically a nursemaid/valet.
Shawn was so insecure that he was constantly biting his nails. There was nothing but a tiny stub left on each finger and he would chew it nonstop until it was bleeding like crazy.
Scott Hall's nickname in the dressing room was Razor The Moan because of all the whining he did.
Louie Spicolli was the second worst case of slow suicide that Hart had seen in his life, next to Rick McGraw.
Vince fired Louie under the pretense that his drug abuse was out of control and vowed the next wrestler he hired would be drug free and a model employee. The next wrestler he promptly hired was Brian Pillman.
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Bret now has prostate cancer to battle... Hoping for the best for the Hit Man...
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Sorry I have been away.
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Yoko was 450lbs when he entered the WWF. After winning the belt, he went up to 600lbs in only four months from eating hot dogs in the locker room all the time. He would drink Diet Coke thinking it helped him out.
Mike Von Erick is rumored to have been on drugs (no surprise) when he committed suicide by zipping himself in a sleeping bag that he had filled with rocks and rolling off the side of a boat into the water.
Earthquake was a legit tough guy.
Fuck man...
Reading some interesting stuff here, but I'd simply put a gun to my head, what a shit way to go...
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Mike Von Erick is rumored to have been on drugs (no surprise) when he committed suicide by zipping himself in a sleeping bag that he had filled with rocks and rolling off the side of a boat into the water.
of all the ways to off yourself, what a horrible painful way to go.
the burning in his lungs must have been unreal before he passed out.. :-\ :'(
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Speaking of Bret Hart, its just been confirmed that he has been diagnosed with prostate cancer. :(
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Speaking of Bret Hart, its just been confirmed that he has been diagnosed with prostate cancer. :(
Another wrestling tragedy.
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Another wrestling tragedy.
I wouldn't call it a tragedy but he is up there in age. Just sucks when you hear about this kind of shit. Then you have guys like Jake Roberts who abused drugs and alcohol his entire life and he is still walking which to this day boggles my mind.
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I wouldn't call it a tragedy but he is up there in age. Just sucks when you hear about this kind of shit. Then you have guys like Jake Roberts who abused drugs and alcohol his entire life and he is still walking which to this day boggles my mind.
thanks to ddp yoga ::) ::) ::)
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I wouldn't call it a tragedy but he is up there in age. Just sucks when you hear about this kind of shit. Then you have guys like Jake Roberts who abused drugs and alcohol his entire life and he is still walking which to this day boggles my mind.
I was being facetious. ;D
Bret has used the phrase "wrestling tragedy" more than anyone in the history of mankind!
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I was being facetious. ;D
Bret has used the phrase "wrestling tragedy" more than anyone in the history of mankind!
Well I cannot argue with that, Monte :)