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Title: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: gib on January 18, 2016, 05:13:33 AM
Damn market selloff looking scary. Who's losing money out there?

Getbig related as all getbiggers are stock investing millionaires ...
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: OB1 on January 18, 2016, 05:14:40 AM
OP suffering from chronic pollonitis
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: Purge_WTF on January 18, 2016, 05:36:13 AM
 Glad I dumped my Netflix stock a few years back and got six figures.

 Everyone was worried about the chaos that would accompany a lack of oil; now we're worried about having too much of it.
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: gmflex on January 18, 2016, 05:41:20 AM
Damn 401k has taken a hit.. >:(
Regular stocks still doing good.. have not lost a lot.. ;)
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: Mr Anabolic on January 18, 2016, 05:45:05 AM
IMO, a lot further.  It won't go straight down though, it will be volatile as hell.  It will eventually get back down to March 2009 lows.  That might not be until 2017.  If anyone here has a 401k, you should move the entire amount to a cash position.
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: OB1 on January 18, 2016, 05:48:32 AM
Invest in gold.
Can't get more secure.
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: gib on January 18, 2016, 06:44:16 AM
Invest in gold.
Can't get more secure.

Huh? Gold is useless. Has almost zero inherent value and earns no yield..
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: OB1 on January 18, 2016, 06:48:55 AM
Huh? Gold is useless. Has almost zero inherent value and earns no yield..

It will keep it's value when the stock market and the dollar is crashing into oblivion.
When money is finally worthless there will be a need for other currency and that will be gold.
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: gib on January 18, 2016, 07:09:05 AM
It will keep it's value when the stock market and the dollar is crashing into oblivion.
When money is finally worthless there will be a need for other currency and that will be gold.


Really? i don't think we will go back to the stone ages. Gold is a useless metal with no measurable value. It's nonsense to believe we will go back using gold as a currency. Or silver. Or diamonds and Ruby's. Or bronze. Or any of the many other metals that exist.

If we are ever really back in the stone ages end of the world type stuff then it's things like food that will be commodities that can be bartered.

There's a good reason Warren Buffet has said he wouldn't ever buy gold. The only people who make money on gold long term are the traders to sell it to you. Don't believe the bullshit they tell you about it being a good investment.
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: OB1 on January 18, 2016, 07:10:43 AM
Really? i don't think we will go back to the stone ages. Gold is a useless metal with no measurable value. It's nonsense to believe we will go back using gold as a currency. Or silver. Or diamonds and Ruby's. Or bronze. Or any of the many other metals that exist.

If we are ever really back in the stone ages end of the world type stuff then it's things like food that will be commodities that can be bartered.

There's a good reason Warren Buffet has said he wouldn't ever buy gold. The only people who make money on gold long term are the traders to sell it to you. Don't believe the bullshit they tell you about it being a good investment.

Pretty soon we will see  ;)
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 18, 2016, 07:15:14 AM
the gold price is extremely low. Investors are currently not buying gold as a safe haven from the current stock market panic:

http://goldprice.org/gold-price-chart.html
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: calfzilla on January 18, 2016, 07:39:57 AM
Falling stock prices can be good. When the prices are low that's when you buy, because when they go back up you will earn large profits. That's how rich people do it ya know?
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 18, 2016, 07:58:27 AM
Invest in gold.
Can't get more secure.

Unless it's real estate.
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 18, 2016, 08:00:35 AM
Damn market selloff looking scary. Who's losing money out there?

Getbig related as all getbiggers are stock investing millionaires ...

Took a little over a $26k this month. It's only a loss of you panic and sell off the entire stock.
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: Tedim on January 18, 2016, 08:00:53 AM
Unless it's real estate.

real property is taxable.... I get hammered at the end of every year, physical gold is not

but gold isnt an investment its a hedge
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: calfzilla on January 18, 2016, 08:02:02 AM
Took a little over a $26k this month. It's only a loss of you panic and sell off the entire stock.

Yep. Poor people mistake 101.
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: Tedim on January 18, 2016, 08:11:07 AM
Bought this in November....immediate tax bill arrived 5K...fk
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on January 18, 2016, 08:14:42 AM
Falling stock prices can be good. When the prices are low that's when you buy, because when they go back up you will earn large profits. That's how rich people do it ya know?

Obviously.......but you better have a strong stomach
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: Tedim on January 18, 2016, 08:35:30 AM
Falling stock prices can be good. When the prices are low that's when you buy, because when they go back up you will earn large profits. That's how rich people do it ya know?

Sometimes.....sometimes investors sit on the sidelines and let the drop...drop further to shake out the weak hands

and sometimes the drop breaks the company and its management
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: Coffeed on January 18, 2016, 08:43:54 AM
Time to pull out the ol' Don Lapre investment book.
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 18, 2016, 08:50:30 AM
Bought this in November....immediate tax bill arrived 5K...fk

There is a car wash by me that just closed because the owner of the car wash was living there. The property owners found out he was living there and close it. It looks like it's ready to go if you're intrested.
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: TuHolmes on January 18, 2016, 08:56:21 AM
I haven't lost anything really. I noticed that the market is falling directly to oil. It's not a big collapse. People selling off will be back soon.

The VIX is staying pretty calm and is slightly up.
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: Tedim on January 18, 2016, 09:03:34 AM
There is a car wash by me that just closed because the owner of the car wash was living there. The property owners found out he was living there and close it. It looks like it's ready to go if you're intrested.

Thanks coach for the heads up....I do GA only right now on real property and the car wash was/is secondary interest, I specialize in the coin laundry side. I'll look to rent the car wash out or convert to self storage.
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on January 18, 2016, 09:04:46 AM
I haven't lost anything really. I noticed that the market is falling directly to oil. It's not a big collapse. People selling off will be back soon.

The VIX is staying pretty calm and is slightly up.

I was expecting a break even month and a down quarter, but still saw a 4.4% gain. My bigger fear would be inflation. People are so focused on the DJIA and the Obama lackies pointing out its rise, that they completely ignore the actions of the Fed on interest rates and the resultant effect on inflation.
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: Tedim on January 18, 2016, 09:07:09 AM
I was expecting a break even month and a down quarter, but still saw a 4.4% gain. My bigger fear would be inflation. People are so focused on the DJIA and the Obama lackies pointing out its rise, that they completely ignore the actions of the Fed on interest rates and the resultant effect on inflation.

the equity losses are so high, even the money pump isn't big enough to fill the hole.....inflation is still way down the road, deflation by year end IMO will be big on property
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: ritch on January 18, 2016, 09:10:07 AM
Why is the US dollar worth so much then? It's fucking up my business!!!
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: Tedim on January 18, 2016, 09:10:50 AM
Why is the US dollar worth so much then? It's fucking up my business!!!

demand....
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: 240 is Back on January 18, 2016, 09:10:56 AM
Unless it's real estate.

land doesn't die.   true.

BUT land gets shitty neighbors and sure loses a lot of its value.
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on January 18, 2016, 09:14:25 AM
the equity losses are so high, even the money pump isn't big enough to fill the hole.....inflation is still way down the road, deflation by year end IMO will be big on property

Agreed.

I think we will see another "adjustment" on property valuation and low interest rates won't be able to fully offset the market slowdown.

But when an incompetent POTUS adds $12 trillion in debt in 7 years - inflation is here. It's partially hidden by wage stagnation.
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on January 18, 2016, 09:18:37 AM
Why is the US dollar worth so much then? It's fucking up my business!!!

Stability.

Puts the USD in demand because the Euro is being kept afloat by Germany.

Obviously partially ignoring the fact that the US can print as much money as they please
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 18, 2016, 09:30:44 AM
I haven't lost anything really. I noticed that the market is falling directly to oil. It's not a big collapse. People selling off will be back soon.

The VIX is staying pretty calm and is slightly up.

to me, VIX does not look good:

http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?p=d1&t=VX
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: Tedim on January 18, 2016, 09:35:13 AM
Agreed.

I think we will see another "adjustment" on property valuation and low interest rates won't be able to fully offset the market slowdown.

But when an incompetent POTUS adds $12 trillion in debt in 7 years - inflation is here. It's partially hidden by wage stagnation.

Agree....but the losses in equity and property (real, equipment, transport) are north of the 12T and so IMO the growth after deflation will bring high inflation, IMO higher than the 80's....

possible hyperinflation if Eurozone recovers, doubtful though
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: TuHolmes on January 18, 2016, 09:38:07 AM
to me, VIX does not look good:

http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?p=d1&t=VX

Looks pretty calm and stable. Not volatile like the rest.

Maybe we are viewing it differently.
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 18, 2016, 09:41:47 AM
demand....

are you still hanging out with these guys in the biker gang?


(http://s29.postimg.org/c34mj5l3b/getbig_bandidos.jpg)
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: Tedim on January 18, 2016, 09:43:11 AM
are you still hanging out with these guys in the biker gang?


(http://s29.postimg.org/c34mj5l3b/getbig_bandidos.jpg)

lol.....
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: ritch on January 18, 2016, 10:05:28 AM
Stability.

Puts the USD in demand because the Euro is being kept afloat by Germany.

Obviously partially ignoring the fact that the US can print as much money as they please

Canada is not stable?
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: Disco187 on January 18, 2016, 10:17:46 AM
amazon
wawa
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on January 18, 2016, 11:54:00 AM
Canada is not stable?


As a major world economy?

No.

It's like a 6 year old little sister that follows her older brother to Prom.

Trudeau will have Canada's economy so far in the shitter in two years that it will take 2 decades to recover
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: Mr.1derful on January 18, 2016, 06:32:15 PM
As a major world economy?

No.

It's like a 6 year old little sister that follows her older brother to Prom.

Trudeau will have Canada's economy so far in the shitter in two years that it will take 2 decades to recover

Canada is in deep shit and most people have no cognition just how deep.  Harper blew up the housing and other bubbles and now in the midst of a recession, Trudeau acts like the tax payers are his personal ATM machine.  We'll see if the BOC stays the course with rates, or buckles and drops them again.  If they do, the loonie will continue its decline, especially if oil continues to slide.  Retail spending is down, with unemployment on the rise.  2016 is going to be a very bumpy ride.   People had better buckle up.
Title: Re: Poll - how much more will US stocks fall
Post by: WalterWhite on January 18, 2016, 07:40:46 PM
Stability.

Puts the USD in demand because the Euro is being kept afloat by Germany.

Obviously partially ignoring the fact that the US can print as much money as they please

Yes and that easy money policy is what drove up this pos fed driven market.