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Title: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: Jason_Dhir on March 12, 2006, 09:39:17 AM
Wanna hear some interesting stuff?

I am trying to maintain some sort of integrity in the industry that cannot follow rules. Fair enough - we all like being misfits at some point but Saturday night was a whole other level of questioning.
After analyzing the evening, I had found an absurd amount of people that had tried a "grease attempt" trying to slip someone cash for VIP entrance and also other fun stories of people that didn't want to be seen in the regular line that attempted to pay $50-100 (instead of $25) to "be seen" in the guest line. 90% didn't seem to think that they should be paying a Charity party ticket and to make it even worse industry people wanted to crash other companys private parties that they compete with.
I have done stuff with other industries too and I have never seen anything like it.
Will the real VIP's please stand up!

hehehe ;D

 
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: 240 is Back on March 12, 2006, 09:40:02 AM
I'm here bro, relax.
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: Disgusted on March 12, 2006, 09:54:53 AM
Our industry and integrity? Hmmmmmmmm oil and water.    ;D
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: BayGBM on March 12, 2006, 10:02:55 AM
bodybuilding integrity = oxymoron.  Look it up.  :(
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: alexxx on March 12, 2006, 10:06:41 AM
I got another oxymoron :) SquadStraight
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on March 12, 2006, 10:12:09 AM
Wanna hear some interesting stuff?

I am trying to maintain some sort of integrity in the industry that cannot follow rules. Fair enough - we all like being misfits at some point but Saturday night was a whole other level of questioning.
After analyzing the evening, I had found an absurd amount of people that had tried a "grease attempt" trying to slip someone cash for VIP entrance and also other fun stories of people that didn't want to be seen in the regular line that attempted to pay $50-100 (instead of $25) to "be seen" in the guest line. 90% didn't seem to think that they should be paying a Charity party ticket and to make it even worse industry people wanted to crash other companys private parties that they compete with.
I have done stuff with other industries too and I have never seen anything like it.
Will the real VIP's please stand up!

hehehe ;D

 

LOL..are you freaking kidding me? This industry lost what little integrity it had years ago. Start with promotors and judges integrity first and then worry about the BS later. Your priorities are backwords!
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: 1Fast400 on March 12, 2006, 10:14:57 AM
The problem is that it really doesn't take that much cash to get started in this industry.  REAL business people don't run these companies, meatheads do.  I would say I actually respect about 10-15 people in this industry, that's it. 
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: rufjunk on March 12, 2006, 10:15:11 AM
It's hard to maintain integrity in an industry where members compromise it everyday by taking illegal substances.

"Gear shouldn't be illegal so it's ok that I break the law, as long as I don't sell it or do Crystal Meth, I'm ok" ... etc.

We compromise our integrity everyday from the stuff we do relative to bodybuilding.

The industry is comprised of people with little to no integrity. Where's the integrity involved in selling muscle milk? It's a "health promoting" product that rips off consumers so the owners can make a lot of money. That's true with most supplements, it's like me selling Brocolli for 20 bucks at the Arnold Expo because it "makes you feel better".

Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on March 12, 2006, 10:21:11 AM
The problem is that it really doesn't take that much cash to get started in this industry.  REAL business people don't run these companies, meatheads do.  I would say I actually respect about 10-15 people in this industry, that's it. 

Exactly!
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: Jason_Dhir on March 12, 2006, 11:01:50 AM
Yeah, I agree with you Mr. 1fast400. I know that you have dealt with the same issues. Too much politics and a lot of meatheads in the industry that don't want to act like grown-ups. BTW - thanks for attending man - I did catch a glimpse of you. Didn't think you'd make it!
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: Special Ed on March 12, 2006, 01:32:45 PM
Wait a second...this Jason Dhir party promoter has 5 BLUE stars and Vinnie "Da Pro" Galanti only has TWO YELLOW stars??

You're right! This industry DOES lack integrity.

Special "TeamGalanti.com" Ed
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: slippediskmountian on March 12, 2006, 01:42:23 PM
Wanna hear some interesting stuff?

I am trying to maintain some sort of integrity in the industry that cannot follow rules. Fair enough - we all like being misfits at some point but Saturday night was a whole other level of questioning.
After analyzing the evening, I had found an absurd amount of people that had tried a "grease attempt" trying to slip someone cash for VIP entrance and also other fun stories of people that didn't want to be seen in the regular line that attempted to pay $50-100 (instead of $25) to "be seen" in the guest line. 90% didn't seem to think that they should be paying a Charity party ticket and to make it even worse industry people wanted to crash other companys private parties that they compete with.
I have done stuff with other industries too and I have never seen anything like it.
Will the real VIP's please stand up!

hehehe ;D

 


why dontcha cry about it ;D
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: Jason_Dhir on March 12, 2006, 01:55:37 PM
I don't pick the stars folks.
Vinnie is a good dude - again fuss over silly sh*t. Who cares about the stars anyway man!?!?!
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 12, 2006, 02:25:53 PM
I don't pick the stars folks.
Vinnie is a good dude - again fuss over silly sh*t. Who cares about the stars anyway man!?!?!



The stars represent those who are pros or those who work in the pro industry.  Vinne a great guy but he hasn't turned pro yet.  I would consider him an expert, I suppose.  I wonder who makes those decisions anyway???/
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: Stavios on March 12, 2006, 02:34:49 PM
Vince G is the integrity of bbing
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: Shawn Ray on March 12, 2006, 04:12:38 PM
I represented Jason with the VYO Tech Crew, as we sponsored your event, Nice Job!
Seeing Dina there was an added bonus and the Rumors afterward were even better! :o
See ya next year! ;D
S. Ray
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: ARMZ on March 12, 2006, 04:30:03 PM
I represented Jason with the VYO Tech Crew, as we sponsored your event, Nice Job!
Seeing Dina there was an added bonus and the Rumors afterward were even better! :o
See ya next year! ;D
S. Ray


Just between us, was she all that she's cracked up to be?
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: hillbilly on March 12, 2006, 04:32:55 PM
Just the title of this thread makes me laugh! which is kinda sad really
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: G o a t b o y on March 12, 2006, 04:38:43 PM
The problem is that it really doesn't take that much cash to get started in this industry.  REAL business people don't run these companies, meatheads do.  I would say I actually respect about 10-15 people in this industry, that's it. 

If real business people were running the supp companies, there wouldn't be an IFBB, because real business people woulsn't waste money on "athlete" endorsements and show sponsorships, not when 80-90% of the people who workout and buy supplements are doing it for their own vanity and could care less about the IFBB and their pros, if they've even heard of them at all.
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: ARMZ on March 12, 2006, 04:45:32 PM
If real business people were running the supp companies, there wouldn't be an IFBB, because real business people woulsn't waste money on "athlete" endorsements and show sponsorships, not when 80-90% of the people who workout and buy supplements are doing it for their own vanity and could care less about the IFBB and their pros, if they've even heard of them at all.



Remember when, I think it was Lonnie Teper went around asking people on the streets who would win Mr. O.?   One guy said Gary Coleman.   lol   Another guy said Arnold..
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: Shawn Ray on March 12, 2006, 06:21:15 PM

Just between us, was she all that she's cracked up to be?

I thought Ronnie said, "Jay must be smoking Crack?"  ???
You mean it was Dina? :-*
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: VGalanti on March 13, 2006, 03:03:36 AM
I don't pick the stars folks.
Vinnie is a good dude - again fuss over silly sh*t. Who cares about the stars anyway man!?!?!

Hello guys
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: Bix on March 13, 2006, 03:58:51 AM
The problem is that it really doesn't take that much cash to get started in this industry.  REAL business people don't run these companies, meatheads do.  I would say I actually respect about 10-15 people in this industry, that's it. 

Aren't you the same guy that promised a free archived web cast of the show you promoted only to back out of it later and cry about how much money you lost on that show ?
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: 1Fast400 on March 13, 2006, 06:41:23 AM
Yes, I'm the guy the put the first ever FREE live webcast of a show.  This wednesday/thursday the article will be printed as to why we lost so much many.  Many things were outside of our control.  That being said, we need to do what we can to help recoup funds. 

Maybe I should have been like other people that do shows.  Don't offer webcast for free.  Don't do a DVD of the event.  Those that do, will charge a HELL of a lot more than 10.00, especially for a two disc set.  The problem with my show is that I tried to treat people like real professional athletes.  I should have just held the event in a high school auditorium, let them change in bathrooms and had tons of tacky ass banners all over the stage. 
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: jaejonna on March 13, 2006, 06:44:26 AM
Yes, I'm the guy the put the first ever FREE live webcast of a show.  This wednesday/thursday the article will be printed as to why we lost so much many.  Many things were outside of our control.  That being said, we need to do what we can to help recoup funds. 

Maybe I should have been like other people that do shows.  Don't offer webcast for free.  Don't do a DVD of the event.  Those that do, will charge a HELL of a lot more than 10.00, especially for a two disc set.  The problem with my show is that I tried to treat people like real professional athletes.  I should have just held the event in a high school auditorium, let them change in bathrooms and had tons of tacky ass banners all over the stage. 

Ok well who is in charge of counting the meltdowns for today... we got one !
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: dknole on March 13, 2006, 06:52:45 AM
1-FAST-400 is a legit guy who runs a good company. He is one of the people who are trying to treat the BB's and fans with respect. Perhaps they do not deserve it.
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: Jason_Dhir on March 13, 2006, 08:01:49 AM
Hey Vinnie.
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: Crusher on March 13, 2006, 08:16:17 AM
Integrity?  In BB?  Dude, it's the first thing you check at the door!
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: Jason_Dhir on March 13, 2006, 09:57:51 AM
I understand and respect 1fast400's response. A lot of the time, stuff is out of your control but you take the hit for it because your name is on that show. The problem with our industry is that everyone wants changes in bodybuilding but the public and athletes aren't willing to suffer through transitional phases. There are going to be hard times and the community needs to see that there are people out there trying to bring more money and excitement into the sport and trying to raise awareness. Rather than critisize him or others why not support those that want to change and grow the sport?
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: ARMZ on March 13, 2006, 12:24:58 PM
Hello guys


Hell yeah Vinnie, you got your blue stars.  They must know something good is going to happen..
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: VGalanti on March 13, 2006, 07:13:01 PM
Hey Vinnie.

Yo whats up
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: VGalanti on March 13, 2006, 07:13:50 PM

Hell yeah Vinnie, you got your blue stars.  They must know something good is going to happen..

you have no idea.....
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: 240 is Back on March 13, 2006, 07:16:23 PM
you have no idea.....

what's new, vinny?   ;D
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: Special Ed on March 13, 2006, 07:21:47 PM
Vinnie,

Let me be the first to congratulate you on your BLUE STARS. Of course, it was my post about integrity that got you those stars. Now let me be the first to congratulate you on your PROFESSIONAL STATUS with the PDI. I think that's an excellent move. We both know the IFBB has little or nothing to offer you by way of prize money or exposure, whereas you could become the face of a new organization. Nice move. And hopefully, if your good fortune continues (and good things DO come in threes) I will be the first to congratulate you on becoming a father later in the year. For now, that cute Bulldog will have to do.

Special "Congrats Master" Ed
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: VGalanti on March 13, 2006, 07:35:25 PM
Vinnie,

Let me be the first to congratulate you on your BLUE STARS. Of course, it was my post about integrity that got you those stars. Now let me be the first to congratulate you on your PROFESSIONAL STATUS with the PDI. I think that's an excellent move. We both know the IFBB has little or nothing to offer you by way of prize money or exposure, whereas you could become the face of a new organization. Nice move. And hopefully, if your good fortune continues (and good things DO come in threes) I will be the first to congratulate you on becoming a father later in the year. For now, that cute Bulldog will have to do.

Special "Congrats Master" Ed

Dude....it's VINNY, not VINNIE....come on man.
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: Special Ed on March 13, 2006, 07:41:30 PM
Dude....it's VINNY, not VINNIE....come on man.

I wasn't talking to you moron. You're not the only Vinnie here you self-centered egotistical prick. In case you didn't know my trainer and guru VINCE "Vinnie" G, MSN is awaiting his Blue stars, pro card, and baby.

Special "Will my wife be upset if I knock up the girl at the gym?" Ed
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: VGalanti on March 14, 2006, 04:01:29 AM
I wasn't talking to you moron. You're not the only Vinnie here you self-centered egotistical prick. In case you didn't know my trainer and guru VINCE "Vinnie" G, MSN is awaiting his Blue stars, pro card, and baby.

Special "Will my wife be upset if I knock up the girl at the gym?" Ed
Dude i'm so sorry.....
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: Bix on March 14, 2006, 04:15:59 AM
Yes, I'm the guy the put the first ever FREE live webcast of a show.  This wednesday/thursday the article will be printed as to why we lost so much many.  Many things were outside of our control.  That being said, we need to do what we can to help recoup funds. 

Maybe I should have been like other people that do shows.  Don't offer webcast for free.  Don't do a DVD of the event.  Those that do, will charge a HELL of a lot more than 10.00, especially for a two disc set.  The problem with my show is that I tried to treat people like real professional athletes.  I should have just held the event in a high school auditorium, let them change in bathrooms and had tons of tacky ass banners all over the stage. 


The point in regards to integrity is that you Promised  a free archived web cast and DID NOT DELIVER.

Also why did it take you so long to get the DVD ready for sale , hell that show of yours was months ago .
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: Bix on March 14, 2006, 04:19:25 AM
I understand and respect 1fast400's response. A lot of the time, stuff is out of your control but you take the hit for it because your name is on that show. The problem with our industry is that everyone wants changes in bodybuilding but the public and athletes aren't willing to suffer through transitional phases. There are going to be hard times and the community needs to see that there are people out there trying to bring more money and excitement into the sport and trying to raise awareness. Rather than critisize him or others why not support those that want to change and grow the sport?

Unless you're in the industry or are a competitor who the hell would care if this "sport" grew or not ?  ::)
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: Rowtogrow on March 14, 2006, 06:11:43 AM
Yes, I'm the guy the put the first ever FREE live webcast of a show.  This wednesday/thursday the article will be printed as to why we lost so much many.  Many things were outside of our control.  That being said, we need to do what we can to help recoup funds. 

Maybe I should have been like other people that do shows.  Don't offer webcast for free.  Don't do a DVD of the event.  Those that do, will charge a HELL of a lot more than 10.00, especially for a two disc set.  The problem with my show is that I tried to treat people like real professional athletes.  I should have just held the event in a high school auditorium, let them change in bathrooms and had tons of tacky ass banners all over the stage. 

400, don't forget bro that not one pro had anything negative to say about how they were treated at your show.  Two pros told me that they have NEVER been treated so well and would love to come back and compete in any show run by you and your staff.  They commented that they don't even get treated like that at the Olympia!

As for the fans...I cannot speak for them.  It seems there's no pleasing everyone.
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: 1Fast400 on March 14, 2006, 06:23:39 AM
Quote
Also why did it take you so long to get the DVD ready for sale , hell that show of yours was months ago.

It was out of my control.  They had all the footage.  The first sample they gave me was shit quality so I had to send it back to have it redone.  There is about 4 hours of footage total, so it isn't a small amount of material.  As to your other comments, I've already explained everything.  If that isn't good enough for you, oh well.  Can't please everyone. 
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: VGalanti on March 14, 2006, 02:57:49 PM
I wasn't talking to you moron. You're not the only Vinnie here you self-centered egotistical prick. In case you didn't know my trainer and guru VINCE "Vinnie" G, MSN is awaiting his Blue stars, pro card, and baby.

Special "Will my wife be upset if I knock up the girl at the gym?" Ed

BITCH
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: Jason_Dhir on March 14, 2006, 05:34:13 PM
Yeah 1fast - tough industry to please. Ya gonna do another show this year?
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: Special Ed on March 14, 2006, 05:49:24 PM
BITCH
Vinnie,

You responded to my post twice. You quoted the same post twice. That's illegal!!! I just emailed Ron and he's probably gonna take away a star or two!!! WATCH YOUR BACK next time you hit Ikea Paramus brother.

Special "Route 17" Ed
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: 240 is Back on March 14, 2006, 05:51:22 PM

After all, Vince is a "CSN" (Cock Sucking Nobody).

If I could undo one thing on getbig, it'd be coming up with that name and killing that version of vince.  I'm sorry, man.
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: 1Fast400 on March 14, 2006, 06:54:19 PM
No show for me this year.  In a few years I might, but some things would to change with the system first.  Most don't realize that to put on a show with the purse and fee's for all the events totals around 80k dollars.  That is BEFORE you start having real expenses.  That is assuming you pay the minimum in all the prize categories. 

Lets assume you can draw 1000 people, you ran the entire event on 1 day, you'd need 80 bucks a head just to break even on that ONE expense.  As far as sponsors, good luck, there are to many shows out there already.  More and more companies are realizing how stupid it is to sponsor the shows due to a horrible ROI. 
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: shrugman on March 14, 2006, 07:33:12 PM
Vinny has been at it since 93, when he won the USA as a Middle weight.
We all know he has  3 National level weight class wins under his belt, whats funny about the NPC, they are GIVING pro cards to figure girls in the JR USA.
Now a guy like Vinny, with 3 national wins cant do anything at a pro show, but watch it.
 
I think thats bullshit....I know he has not won the Nationals, but after trying since 93, if I were him i'd jump ship.
VINNY, GO TO THE PDI....you have fans here who want to see you in the mix.
 
 
Vinny can you let us know what your doing?
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: njbbldr on March 15, 2006, 06:39:46 AM
If Vinny did turn pro in the PDI, and walk away from the NPC, he would never be able to turn back.
I heard he talked to Wayne, and talked to Manion out of respect, but we all know now that Vinny is fucked just for letting the NPC know he even talked to Wayne.
 
If Vinny does the USA....he wont crack the top 5, let alone the top 15....just out of the fact that he talked to Wayne.
 
OPINIONS ON POLITICS?
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: 240 is Back on March 15, 2006, 07:06:05 AM
If Vinny did turn pro in the PDI, and walk away from the NPC, he would never be able to turn back.
I heard he talked to Wayne, and talked to Manion out of respect, but we all know now that Vinny is fucked just for letting the NPC know he even talked to Wayne.
 
If Vinny does the USA....he wont crack the top 5, let alone the top 15....just out of the fact that he talked to Wayne.
 
OPINIONS ON P

Vinny is late 30's, has great lines, has been overlooked after 13 years of national competition.


He has nothing to lose and everything to gain by jumping, if that's what he chooses to do.
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: VGalanti on March 15, 2006, 03:04:24 PM
I AM TRAINING FOR THE USA...HEAVY WT
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: Ursus on March 15, 2006, 03:13:02 PM
why the hell can ronnie not shave his beard beneath his lips in a straight line down the middle??? its always off to the side
Title: Re: Our Industries Integrity
Post by: suckmymuscle on March 15, 2006, 10:25:50 PM
Wanna hear some interesting stuff?

I am trying to maintain some sort of integrity in the industry that cannot follow rules. Fair enough - we all like being misfits at some point but Saturday night was a whole other level of questioning.
After analyzing the evening, I had found an absurd amount of people that had tried a "grease attempt" trying to slip someone cash for VIP entrance and also other fun stories of people that didn't want to be seen in the regular line that attempted to pay $50-100 (instead of $25) to "be seen" in the guest line. 90% didn't seem to think that they should be paying a Charity party ticket and to make it even worse industry people wanted to crash other companys private parties that they compete with.
I have done stuff with other industries too and I have never seen anything like it.
Will the real VIP's please stand up!

hehehe ;D

 

  For you to criticize the integrity of the bodybuilding industry, if first needs to have one... ::)

SUCKMYMUSCLE