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Title: Liberal Media/Gun-Grabbers Ignore Latest CDC Report - top 15 list
Post by: headhuntersix on February 23, 2016, 07:33:01 AM
Had to post this:

Guns don't even make the top 15 ways you're gonna die. All you lib pansies can breath easy.

They don’t want you to know that you’re more likely to die by slipping and falling down a staircase than by an “accidental” discharge. Everytown likes to make “gun violence” out to be a “women’s issue”, but they don’t want you to know that men are nearly seven times more likely to die from someone using a gun in a homicide than women are.
 
Here are some of the many takeaways from the new report:
 
Firearm related deaths totaled 33,636 in 2013. Of those, 21,175 were suicide, 505 were accidental discharges, and 11,208 were assault related (homicide). There were 516 “legal intervention” deaths, but the report does not specify how many those were firearm related.
 
Not even the CDC considers “gun violence” to be its own category.
 
The top 15 causes of death, in order, are:
 1.Heart disease – 611,105
 2.Malignant neoplasms (cancer) – 584,881
 3.Chronic lower respiratory diseases – 149,205
 4.Accidents (unintentional injuries) – 130,557
 5.Cerebrovascular diseases (I don’t even know what that means) – 128,978
 6.Alzheimer’s – 84,767
 7.Diabetes – 75,578
 8.Flu and pneumonia – 56,979
 9.Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome and nephrosis (sounds like a metal band) – 47,112
 10.Suicide – 41,149
 11.Septicemia (I think this is an alien race on Star Trek) – 38,156
 12.Liver disease & cirrhosis – 36,427
 13.Hypertension – 30,770
 14.Parkinson’s – 25,196
 15.Pneumonitis due to solids and liquids 18,579
 
Poisonings accounted for 48,545 deaths, of which 80% were accidental. You are more likely to die by accidentally swallowing bleach and ammonia than by someone shooting you.
 
31,240 people died in accidental falls. You are more likely to die by slipping on ice than you are by someone shooting you.
 
There were 33,804 motor vehicle deaths.
 
Alcohol induced causes were responsible for 29,001 deaths.
 
Suicides totaled 41,149, of which 21,175 were firearm related and 19,974 were not. The report does not detail the other methods by which people committed suicide, but one can imagine that hanging, intentional drug overdose, and jumping from buildings and bridges were on there.
 
Of the total suicides, 32,055 were by men and 9,094 were by women, and 18,214 of the firearm suicides were committed by males while 2,934 were by females. This shows that suicide and gun related suicide is much more of a men’s issue than a women’s issue, as men accounted for 3 1/2 times the total number of suicides than females, and accounted for over six times the rate of gun related suicides when compared to women.
 
Of the total number of firearm assaults, men accounted for 9,445 while women accounted for 1,763, for an 85%/15% split. Yup, still a men’s issue.
 
A real women’s issue is renal failure, where they outnumbered the male deaths, and firearm assault deaths, with 23,136. 190,617 women died in the “all other diseases” category. Women are also more likely than men to die from chronic respiratory diseases, with 78,888 deaths, and hypertension at 17,807.
 
The Bloombergers and Brady Bunch also like to use “THE CHILDREN!” in their hysterics and propaganda. But a look at the real numbers reveal yet more areas where they miss the real opportunities to save the kids.
 
From ages 0-14, the leading causes of death are accidents. This includes motor vehicle accidents, falls, drowning, and “unspecified non transport” accidents. These total 3,993. Accidental discharge of firearms results in a total of 69 deaths in children 0-14, while drownings accounted for 625. I’m waiting anxiously for the new, grassroots Moms For Water Safety group to form.
 
In the suicide category for ages 5-14, non firearm methods outnumbered the firearm methods by a near 2 to 1 ratio, 257 to 138.
 
Of the 32,848 child deaths, ages 0-14, a grand total of 409 were firearm related. Motor vehicle accidents accounted for 1345 deaths in the same age group, and assault without a firearm caused 703.
 
Non firearm assaults were responsible for 4,913 deaths in all age groups, 30% of the total deaths by assault. This shows that when someone can’t get a firearm, they can still kill with a knife, hammer, fists, kicks, cars, and misc. blunt objects.
 
So, to summarize, perhaps Michael Bloomberg, Nick Hanauer, Paul Allen, and Bill Gates should be allocating more of their billions to heart disease research, cancer research, diabetes research, safe bathtubs, and un-fall-able stairs and ladders, since those are all responsible for exponentially more deaths than “gun violence”.
Title: Re: Liberal Media/Gun-Grabbers Ignore Latest CDC Report - top 15 list
Post by: Las Vegas on February 23, 2016, 07:38:02 AM
The anti-gun arguments are fatally flawed.  They make absolutely no sense, and anyone trying to use them should be viewed with suspicion IMO.
Title: Re: Liberal Media/Gun-Grabbers Ignore Latest CDC Report - top 15 list
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 23, 2016, 07:44:38 AM
I am not going to look up stats, but I am pretty much sure that the majority of gun crimes start with a crime of obtaining the firearm itself. 

Gun laws are not going to do anything but hurt the people who already legally and responsibly own guns.  They are not going to affect criminals or criminal acts that allow irresponsible people to get their hands on guns in the first place. 
Title: Re: Liberal Media/Gun-Grabbers Ignore Latest CDC Report - top 15 list
Post by: Las Vegas on February 23, 2016, 07:56:33 AM
I am not going to look up stats, but I am pretty much sure that the majority of gun crimes start with a crime of obtaining the firearm itself.  

Gun laws are not going to do anything but hurt the people who already legally and responsibly own guns.  They are not going to affect criminals or criminal acts that allow irresponsible people to get their hands on guns in the first place.  

X2..and they act upon the idea that the events which make it to news (specifically, shootings of innocent people) are the whole story.  That is just so dishonest and/or dumb it is almost beyond belief someone would think it's ok to go forward with it.
Title: Re: Liberal Media/Gun-Grabbers Ignore Latest CDC Report - top 15 list
Post by: headhuntersix on February 23, 2016, 08:12:50 AM
I am not going to look up stats, but I am pretty much sure that the majority of gun crimes start with a crime of obtaining the firearm itself. 

Gun laws are not going to do anything but hurt the people who already legally and responsibly own guns.  They are not going to affect criminals or criminal acts that allow irresponsible people to get their hands on guns in the first place. 

Yup...but it doesn't help when we hear the Left whine about gun show loopholes..that don't exist or online sales. Its true you can buy guns online...through private sales without a background check. Just like you can buy drugs or other things. Thats not gonna stop. They want to ban gun stores from selling online. You still have to go through a background check when the weapon shows up at YOUR LOCAL STORE. They say things like "semi auto" as if that means anything more then one pull one shot. Or "assault weapons" which are, for the most part semi auto. Auto's are regualted differently and have rarely been used in crimes. The West Hollywood shootout being a rarity. These are facts quickly glossed over to try and take a Constitutionally protected right.
Title: Re: Liberal Media/Gun-Grabbers Ignore Latest CDC Report - top 15 list
Post by: Las Vegas on February 23, 2016, 08:20:20 AM
I see people right on this forum, backing the idea of confiscation.  Can you imagine that?  Serious mental issues.

Anyone out there wanting to be a legit liberal (not a fake liberal) should know better than to fall for that trap.   Your favorite sites have been infiltrated by liars, so please don't allow yourselves to get drawn into the pointlessness of it all.
Title: Re: Liberal Media/Gun-Grabbers Ignore Latest CDC Report - top 15 list
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 23, 2016, 10:30:25 AM
I have been to plenty of gun shows and have yet to see the neighborhood Crip or Blood down there buying their next gun.

Highly doubt these people and the teenagers who thrill kill actually possess a credit card for purchasing over the internet either.
Title: Re: Liberal Media/Gun-Grabbers Ignore Latest CDC Report - top 15 list
Post by: headhuntersix on February 23, 2016, 11:16:16 AM
This is what they do in San Antonio....guy walks the floor with a couple of guns, the gang bangers know these guys and then buy from them. The seller goes out to his car, grabs more and does the same thing. Usually if a vendor spots people doing this they'll tell the cops but that's what happens here. Its still a crime, no different then buying from some guy out of his trunk, except the possible market is bigger. None of which constitutes violating my 2nd amendment rights.