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Ronnie could show up in a full body cast and still be more vascular than cutler.
No more rumors and sh*t; just went through the latest MuscleMag issue (May 2006) and on page 251 in the Muscle Flashes section, they said that Ronnie has reportedly a torn lat, a torn quad and very bad torn tricep that he refuses to have surgery for because he will "not be able to bounce back in time to defend his title" during the 06 Olympia. Shit man, I don't know what to say here. I think it's going to be a tough one for him this year. What do you guys think? Is this "Game Over/ Lights Out" for him, the year he loses, or is he going to do like Dorian, complete like a true champion, with injuries and win #9 and make history? How do the Ron's and Jay's fans feel about this? Any Vic's, Dex', Badell's, Warren's, DJ's, Melvin's, Ruhl's, Darrem's fans here have anything to say or predict here? Discuss.
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Mr. Olympia is Mr. Olympia until he decides to retire, PERIOD.
Coleman will never have surgery....they tried to get him to do it in '97 I believe he wouldnt allow it.
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Ronnie could show up in a full body cast and still be more vascular than coleman.
do you wanna say that over?
Ronnie could show up in a full body cast and still be more vascular than coleman
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maybe it is all bullshiit
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do you wanna say that over?
Ronnie could show up in a full body cast and still be more vascular than coleman
I meant Cutler. It's the C-word, you know. B*tches get mad when you use it :)
ROnnie will look consistent this year and win a shady one, then retire.
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If this is all true, then hopefully he will give Yates '94 performance a run for the money and give us some more fuel to add to the yates/coleman debate 8)
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3 torn muscle groups at the same time all of a sudden? sounds made up.
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3 torn muscle groups at the same time all of a sudden? sounds made up.
the tricep injury is recent, but as far as I know the lat and quad have been nagging injuries that he has just worked through. I dont see the quad and lat as any kind of injuries that will slow him down. The tricep on the other hand could be serious as that totally affects all your pressing movements. If you remember correctly Dorian tore his tricep 3 weeks out of the Olympia so it didnt matter for that contest, but it forced him to retire.
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..And those mags are months and months behind on info.. I just saw a new mag with Titus and Kelly in it talking about the new pro organization.. and how well they're doing.
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the tricep injury is recent, but as far as I know the lat and quad have been nagging injuries that he has just worked through. I dont see the quad and lat as any kind of injuries that will slow him down. The tricep on the other hand could be serious as that totally affects all your pressing movements. If you remember correctly Dorian tore his tricep 3 weeks out of the Olympia so it didnt matter for that contest, but it forced him to retire.
I see. Yea his triceps do look smaller recently. I didn't know he injured his back and leg before.
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That torn Tricep looks bad it should give a few points to Cutler but are the judges going to denie him the record i do not think so.
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That torn Tricep looks bad it should give a few points to Cutler but are the judges going to denie him the record i do not think so.
Ronnie Coleman is Mr. Olympia until he decides to retire, regardless of his condition at the O
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wouldnt it be something intersting though to see him lose
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wouldnt it be something intersting though to see him lose
never happen
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maybe it is all bullshit
The lat and tri are noticeable.. People have been talking about the lat for awhile and the tri has been obvious in his recent pics. Dont know about the quad tho.....
His training will suffer he will be off this year. Prob will still win but he will be off.
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Ronnie Coleman is Mr. Olympia until he decides to retire, regardless of his condition at the O
yup...just like Dorian. no matter how banged up he looks he will still win
sad but true :-\
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yup...just like Dorian. no matter how banged up he looks he will still win
sad but true :-\
exactly If yates can win with a torn bicep then ronnie can win with a torn tricep. I mean its not like ronnie has amazing triceps anyways.. Its not like his triceps helps him win shows ::)
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exactly If yates can win with a torn bicep then ronnie can win with a torn tricep. I mean its not like ronnie has amazing triceps anyways.. Its not like his triceps helps him win shows ::)
Well, when it comes to bodybuilding, a torn tricep is a lot more severe than a torn bicep. You can train around a torn bicep, you can still do the major movements necessary. But with a torn tricep it pretty much ruins any pressing movement. This is evident in Dorian's retirement. If a torn bicep didn't stop the Shadow, do you think a torn tricep could? Sure did...shame, since judging by the 1997O video, Yates @ 274, even if he gained nothing, would have easily defented his title in 98
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Are you guy's blind? The injuries are nothing new.
The left lat has been torn since at least 2003. It was more noticable the last two years, because for some reason, he can't seem to rotate that scapula as much in the rear lat.
His left quad has been torn above the knee for years too. Hasn't effected him, as it's still the leg he puts forward on the ab and thigh.
His left tri was obviously injured on some level last year, and doesn't seem to be getting a whole lot better. But, his left tri has been relatively weak his whole career.
You turds spend day and night on here picking apart every bodybuilder, and NO ONE has noticed any of these over the last few YEARS?
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Are you guy's blind? The injuries are nothing new.
The left lat has been torn since at least 2003. It was more noticable the last two years, because for some reason, he can't seem to rotate that scapula as much in the rear lat.
His left quad has been torn above the knee for years too. Hasn't effected him, as it's still the leg he puts forward on the ab and thigh.
His left tri was obviously injured on some level last year, and doesn't seem to be getting a whole lot better. But, his left tri has been relatively weak his whole career.
You turds spend day and night on here picking apart every bodybuilder, and NO ONE has noticed any of these over the last few YEARS?
Doison,
You speak the truth. Many have eyes, but can they really see?
In a world of blind men, the one-eyed man is king.
Al-G
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Are you guy's blind? The injuries are nothing new.
The left lat has been torn since at least 2003. It was more noticable the last two years, because for some reason, he can't seem to rotate that scapula as much in the rear lat.
His left quad has been torn above the knee for years too. Hasn't effected him, as it's still the leg he puts forward on the ab and thigh.
His left tri was obviously injured on some level last year, and doesn't seem to be getting a whole lot better. But, his left tri has been relatively weak his whole career.
You turds spend day and night on here picking apart every bodybuilder, and NO ONE has noticed any of these over the last few YEARS?
Everybody was too busy talking about his gut
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3 torn muscle groups at the same time all of a sudden? sounds made up.
...sounds like bullsh*t to me too homey.~ ::)
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He's old as fuck, shit's bound to break down
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...sounds like bullsh*t to me too homey.~ ::)
Yep, rumors don't carry much weight. We'll see how Big Ron looks on the big day.
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judging from the arnold ronnie lost some offseason size and cutler doesn't look as fat as his normal offseason.
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Well ronnie said that he is aiming to win the olympia 10 times then retire after 2007 lets see what he brings to the table this year.
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ah man, that sucks, Ronnie is banged up
If he didn't have a bad leg and bad lat as everyone sayd he might have won the O last year and the year before that.
This year he might as well stay home. Clearly his training will be affected as it was for the past 8 years. All of the those healthy young bucks looking to take his title should have some pity on the old man.
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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=737615
^You kids and your bullshit rumors! >:(
Let's see some proof of these injuries, nugga.
Show and Prove.
DIV
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Ronnie's triceps have been messed up for a while, supposedly from "bursitis". His torn lat has long been visible. The quad tear is the only new one and it is probably mild, like Victor Martinez's.
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if any of that is true then thats the only way he ever loses. even for people that don't like him it would be a shame to lose him to that kind of stuuf. don't say too much for the guy that eventually wins it either. that sucks, but like someone else posted those 2 injuries he had for a while and it hasn't stopped him yet so. this is the test of a true champ to overcome adversity such as this.
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if any of that is true then thats the only way he ever loses. even for people that don't like him it would be a shame to lose him to that kind of stuuf. don't say too much for the guy that eventually wins it either. that sucks, but like someone else posted those 2 injuries he had for a while and it hasn't stopped him yet so. this is the test of a true champ to overcome adversity such as this.
So basically, Ronnie's muscle tears could open the door for a Cutler victory?
Who'd have thought a case of Ronnie bursitis could unite us?
DIV
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Ron's injuries *could* possibly allow Yates to finally beat him, on getbig threads. :D
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Pumpster, if Ronnie comes in at 90% of this pic below, even the Yates nuthuggers would go cry screaming to their mama. It would not even be close. Much less Jay beating him ::). Not going to happen unless decides to take the year off from training.
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Ronnie's triceps have been messed up for a while, supposedly from "bursitis". His torn lat has long been visible. The quad tear is the only new one and it is probably mild, like Victor Martinez's.
The quad has shown a small tear for a few years now. The vastus has been creeping upwards since.
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The vastus has been creeping upwards since.
That's poetry. the slow creep of the vastus=metaphor for the passage of time, onset of death?
Al-G
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someone posted some pics a few weeks ago of ronnie's elbow...something weird be happen'n to it
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Pumpster, if Ronnie comes in at 90% of this pic below, even the Yates nuthuggers would go cry screaming to their mama. It would not even be close. Much less Jay beating him ::). Not going to happen unless decides to take the year off from training.
agreed.
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That's poetry. the slow creep of the vastus=metaphor for the passage of time, onset of death?
Al-G
I hope Ronnie doesn't look over his shoulder......something may be gaining.
It's just a matter of time before someone pushes Ronnie out of the game. Old bodybuilders don't retire.......they are "retired".
Either by the powers that be, or a player on the rise.
One way or another, Ronnie's days are numbered, whether he knows it or not.
Hail Mary.
DIV
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One way or another, Ronnie's days are numbered, whether he knows it or not.
they said the same thing in 2000, 2001 and 2002...and look what happened: ronnie shows up in 2003 and 2005 in good shape, winning easily. In 2004, he didn't look so great, but fortunately, neither did anyone else.
that being said, although he is aging, he still looked better in 2005 that he had in quite awhile, so you never know: look at Vince Taylor - age is just a number.
It might be the same situation with Ronnie.
and, keep in mind, that with Dexter seemingly out of the Olympia picture (will he even compete this year?), his competition is getting easier rather than harder. You have:
Jay - at 100% he is only 75% of Ronnie.
Dex - will he even show up this year? last year was a no show/
Branch - doing well, but needs a back and arms.
Gustavo - gut is getting worse, soft from the back.
Victor - never shows up in shape anymore.
Vince Taylor - given the competition, will probably place second this year! 8)
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The quad has shown a small tear for a few years now. The vastus has been creeping upwards since.
The vastus has been creeping upwards? Which one? The vastus lateralis? The Vastus Medialis? There are more than one Vastus muscle dumbass.....
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The vastus has been creeping upwards? Which one? The vastus lateralis? The Vastus Medialis? There are more than one Vastus muscle dumbass.....
Lateralis naturally you dumbass. Or haven't you seen any pics of him?
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Mr. Olympia is Mr. Olympia until he decides to retire, PERIOD.
Coleman will never have surgery....they tried to get him to do it in '97 I believe he wouldnt allow it.
Like anybody in a demanding sports that is tough on the body, Coleman is great, but as he ages his body will eventually reach a breaking pt, sad but true. Happens to everyone from football players to boxers.
Howard
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Ronnie looked good in 1998 when he beat Flex Wheeler (even though i would rather look like flex). Since then he has gone downhill big time.
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As I said if Ron keeps going downhill he'll be into Yates territory somewhere around 2013. ::)
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Lateralis naturally you dumbass. Or haven't you seen any pics of him?
So we're supposed to read your mind? Without the pics as evidence, some of us don't know what someone is talking about....your the evidence of stupidity since you all think the readers are psychic.
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Does anyone know when those pics of ronnie training chest, tris and abs were taken in the latest flex.
HE LOOKS HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE and Untouchable.
no sign of a torn tricep or lat in those pictures. Someone posted a pic of him hitting the front double bi (but it was photoshopped on the left arm)....the flex pictures he looks amazing.
I'm not sure when they were taken, but if they were recent then the injuries rumors are bullshit.
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Ether, by now it should be obvious that six months out from every Mr. Olympia there are rumors of Ronnie's demise. Hell, half the posters bring out the spectre of Dorian's ghost to prove their point (albeitly, incorrectly ::)). Face it, until Coleman comes into the Mr. Olympia looking fat and out of shape, all these rumors are just that...rumors. Hell, if photoshopping were a prize the Ronnie haters like physixius, etc would win awards. Bottom line, he will win till he decides to quit. No ifs, ands or buts. The more compelling question is who is going to succeed Ronnie and will he take the sport in a new direction (aesthetics, shape, etc) or continue with shear freakiness as the standard. Think about it, Ronnie's supposed competition is not exactly young. Heck, Jay is nearing 33 or so. I believe Dex is older, and Gunther is likely in his mid 30's. The only new guys are Heath and Wolf, and I doubt they will be Mr. Olympia anytime soon. ;D Heck, it is conceivable that Vince Taylor at near 50 could place top five at the Mr. Olympia and win its master's division. :o Age ain't nothing but a peanut to these guys.
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I wouldn't be suprised if he wins #9 then retires.
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Yeah, he'll go for nine, then "retire" (i.e. be forced out by weider inc.)
The next Mr. Olympia will probably be Cutler for 1 or maybe 2 years at the max.
It will be interesting if they change the judging to place aesthetics higher.